Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Dear Pemmaraju, I was just going through your article on Nadi. I am a bit confused due to maybe lack of understanding and you can correct me if I am wrong. Can you please clarify some points for me. 1) Have you considered Nadi's as equal portions i.e. 150 equal divisiosn within a Rasi ? 2) Is there any difference between D150 and a Nadi? The reason I ask is that from whatever little understanding I have is that when a divisional chart or a planet in DChart changes then a Nadi Changes. This is as per shodasa or 16 divisional charts. That can't be equal parts? In my studies of Nadi with KAS and also Prashna Shastra with KAS which we do it in a couple of ways and in one way we ask a number between 1 and 1800 i.e. we fix the nadi. But this is all not linear. Can you please talk a little bit on your opinion on dividing the sign into 150 equal parts i.e. nothing but a D150 chart v/s considering 16 D charts and a planet changing signs? This will be useful for strengthening my basics on dwelving deeper into Astrology. Please reply at your convenience as I have embarked on my journey to go much deeper in to KAS and its application and sharing your vast knowledge will help me. I went through your site and timed most of the charts on marriage on your website and most of them are in line with KAS. I want to thank u for sharing such data to the world for their studies. For those who would like to visit Pemmaraju's very nice website can visit http://www.rayuduastrology.com/ Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Dear Ash, Thank you for very much for appreciating my website. In D150 chart, I suppose you count clockwise in each rasi. from that rasi. I mean if lagna is in Libra 1deg 22minutes (82minutes) in Rasi, each 150 th division being 12 minutes, the lagna falls after 6 signs from Libra in Aries counting 7th from Libra. If a planet is in 2 deg 6 min (126 minutes) in Aquarius in Rasi, the planet will be in Sagittarius counting 11 th from Aquarius and so on. In Nadi chart, it is not so even though the divisions are 150. In Moveable rasis, it goes clockwise from that rasi, in fixed rasis it goes anticlockwise from that rasi and in dual rasis it starts from middle of that rasi, goes to end and then goes to the beginning. This is because the first name of the nadi amsa in moveable rasi is same as the last one in fixed rasi and middle one in dual rasi. Each set of moveable, fixed and dual rasis are to be taken separately. I cannot explain here the details. Please see my article “Nadi Amsa Chart” where I have given the procedure to make the Nadi chart. I do not claim that it is the correct way to make the nadi chart. I do not know whether I have given some clarification useful to you.. Of course it is difficult to make the nadi chart manually. Somebody has to make a computer program. I could not test this nadi chart in many horoscopes since I do not have a computer program for the same. I published my method of making a nadi chart in the magazine “ The Times of Astrology”, but nobody commented on it so far since nobody is interested in research. For your information, in D-60 chart, you cannot count clockwise in each rasi, because the name of the first shashiamsha (1/60) in odd rasi is same as the last in even rasi. My Guru told me yet differently that you should count it clockwise starting from Aries for planets in odd rasis in rasi chart and count anticlockwise starting from Pisces for planets in even rasis in rasi chart and also told me that you should consider the lordships in divisional charts. Thanks for checking my data of marriage as per KAS. I gave my method for quickly getting onto the probable marriage age as a thumb rule so that later on the details can be worked out. I do not claim that it is a fool-proof method. Fortunately many told me that they are getting good results from this thumb rule. Further research can be done in this if anybody is interested to improve this method. Unfortunately, I am not able to concentrate anymore for any further research, spending more time in Meditation. I have put it in my website whatever I know, hoping that persons like you would do further research and revive this great ancient science. Anyway, I do not want to go into discussion since this forum is for KAS. Thank you for recommending my website for people to visit. Blessings Pemmaraju ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, I was just going through your article on Nadi. I am a bit confused due to maybe lack of understanding and you can correct me if I am wrong. Can you please clarify some points for me. 1) Have you considered Nadi's as equal portions i.e. 150 equal divisiosn within a Rasi ? 2) Is there any difference between D150 and a Nadi? The reason I ask is that from whatever little understanding I have is that when a divisional chart or a planet in DChart changes then a Nadi Changes. This is as per shodasa or 16 divisional charts. That can't be equal parts? In my studies of Nadi with KAS and also Prashna Shastra with KAS which we do it in a couple of ways and in one way we ask a number between 1 and 1800 i.e. we fix the nadi. But this is all not linear. Can you please talk a little bit on your opinion on dividing the sign into 150 equal parts i.e. nothing but a D150 chart v/s considering 16 D charts and a planet changing signs? This will be useful for strengthening my basics on dwelving deeper into Astrology. Please reply at your convenience as I have embarked on my journey to go much deeper in to KAS and its application and sharing your vast knowledge will help me. I went through your site and timed most of the charts on marriage on your website and most of them are in line with KAS. I want to thank u for sharing such data to the world for their studies. For those who would like to visit Pemmaraju's very nice website can visit http://www.rayuduastrology.com/ Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Dear Pemmaraju, KAS is a very detailed system which includes Nadi so by discussing Nadi's we are in the realm of KAS only. However I have just begun my studies in Nadi and you have experience and have won awards for your papers which is very nice. So I was hoping that you will share your experience. Yes, I did read your post on Amsha's in Nadi and that is what I wanted to understand. I do understand that there are 150 Nadi as given. I also understand that the start of Nadi for Movable Rasi goes in clock wise manner, of that in Fixed Rasi goes from anti clock wise manner and that of Dual sign starts in the middle and then reaches 150th nadi and then starts from 1. So Movable sign nadi starts from 1 to 150 Fixed Sign nadi starts from 150 to 1 Dual sign nadi starts from 76 to 150 and then 1 to 75. My question is that do u consider each nadi to be exact 12 mins each i.e 150 nadis each of 12 mins = 1800. What I am trying to find or explore is the basics and the fundamental. Please feel free to share what your Guru's have shared about Nadi and the reasoning why its exact 12 mins for all nadis? It will help me get to the understanding of Nadis if u can share your vast experience. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thank you for very much for appreciating my website. > > In D150 chart, I suppose you count clockwise in each rasi. from that rasi. I mean if lagna is in Libra 1deg 22minutes (82minutes) in Rasi, each 150 th division being 12 minutes, the lagna falls after 6 signs from Libra in Aries counting 7th from Libra. If a planet is in 2 deg 6 min (126 minutes) in Aquarius in Rasi, the planet will be in Sagittarius counting 11 th from Aquarius and so on. > > In Nadi chart, it is not so even though the divisions are 150. In Moveable rasis, it goes clockwise from that rasi, in fixed rasis it goes anticlockwise from that rasi and in dual rasis it starts from middle of that rasi, goes to end and then goes to the beginning. This is because the first name of the nadi amsa in moveable rasi is same as the last one in fixed rasi and middle one in dual rasi. Each set of moveable, fixed and dual rasis are to be taken separately. I cannot explain here the details. Please see my article " Nadi Amsa Chart " where I have given the procedure to make the Nadi chart. I do not claim that it is the correct way to make the nadi chart. > > I do not know whether I have given some clarification useful to you.. > > Of course it is difficult to make the nadi chart manually. Somebody has to make a computer program. I could not test this nadi chart in many horoscopes since I do not have a computer program for the same. I published my method of making a nadi chart in the magazine " The Times of Astrology " , but nobody commented on it so far since nobody is interested in research. > > For your information, in D-60 chart, you cannot count clockwise in each rasi, because the name of the first shashiamsha (1/60) in odd rasi is same as the last in even rasi. My Guru told me yet differently that you should count it clockwise starting from Aries for planets in odd rasis in rasi chart and count anticlockwise starting from Pisces for planets in even rasis in rasi chart and also told me that you should consider the lordships in divisional charts. > > Thanks for checking my data of marriage as per KAS. I gave my method for quickly getting onto the probable marriage age as a thumb rule so that later on the details can be worked out. I do not claim that it is a fool-proof method. Fortunately many told me that they are getting good results from this thumb rule. Further research can be done in this if anybody is interested to improve this method. > > Unfortunately, I am not able to concentrate anymore for any further research, spending more time in Meditation. I have put it in my website whatever I know, hoping that persons like you would do further research and revive this great ancient science. > > Anyway, I do not want to go into discussion since this forum is for KAS. > > Thank you for recommending my website for people to visit. > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, > I was just going through your article on Nadi. I am a bit confused > due to maybe lack of understanding and you can correct me if I am > wrong. > > Can you please clarify some points for me. > > 1) Have you considered Nadi's as equal portions i.e. 150 equal > divisiosn within a Rasi ? > > 2) Is there any difference between D150 and a Nadi? > > The reason I ask is that from whatever little understanding I have > is that when a divisional chart or a planet in DChart changes then a > Nadi Changes. This is as per shodasa or 16 divisional charts. That > can't be equal parts? > > In my studies of Nadi with KAS and also Prashna Shastra with KAS > which we do it in a couple of ways and in one way we ask a number > between 1 and 1800 i.e. we fix the nadi. But this is all not linear. > > Can you please talk a little bit on your opinion on dividing the > sign into 150 equal parts i.e. nothing but a D150 chart v/s > considering 16 D charts and a planet changing signs? > > This will be useful for strengthening my basics on dwelving deeper > into Astrology. > > Please reply at your convenience as I have embarked on my journey to > go much deeper in to KAS and its application and sharing your vast > knowledge will help me. > > I went through your site and timed most of the charts on marriage on > your website and most of them are in line with KAS. I want to thank > u for sharing such data to the world for their studies. > > For those who would like to visit Pemmaraju's very nice website can > visit > > http://www.rayuduastrology.com/ > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Dear Ash, Yes, Each nadi is taken as 12 minutes in arc. It is derived from the Tatwa and Antar Tatwa Siddhanta as per the rotation of the Tatwas- Prithvi, Jala, Tejo, Vayu and Akash. Whatever my Guru, Late Shri D.V.Subbarao, mentioned in his book about this point, I have given it in my article “ Tatwa/ Antar Tatwa Siddhanta”. Please read it. I have not read anything anywhere so far better than this. Even my other Guru, Late Dr B.V.Raman, also told me the same. My friend Late Shri R.Santhanam, who did enormous research work in this field, also mentioned each nadi amsa equal to 12 minutes arc only in his book “Deva Keralam”. So I may not help you more in this matter, than taking the nadis as equal 150 divisions of each 12 minutes arc amounting to a total of 1800 in each rasi. Some might have mentioned unequal divisions for each nadi, which we may ignore at this stage of research when we do not even understand the present equal division itself for interpretation of results. I wish you all success in preparing nadi chart and results therein, in addition to the interpretation of other varga charts. I will help you whatever I know so far. Blessings Pemmaraju ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, KAS is a very detailed system which includes Nadi so by discussing Nadi's we are in the realm of KAS only. However I have just begun my studies in Nadi and you have experience and have won awards for your papers which is very nice. So I was hoping that you will share your experience. Yes, I did read your post on Amsha's in Nadi and that is what I wanted to understand. I do understand that there are 150 Nadi as given. I also understand that the start of Nadi for Movable Rasi goes in clock wise manner, of that in Fixed Rasi goes from anti clock wise manner and that of Dual sign starts in the middle and then reaches 150th nadi and then starts from 1. So Movable sign nadi starts from 1 to 150 Fixed Sign nadi starts from 150 to 1 Dual sign nadi starts from 76 to 150 and then 1 to 75. My question is that do u consider each nadi to be exact 12 mins each i.e 150 nadis each of 12 mins = 1800. What I am trying to find or explore is the basics and the fundamental. Please feel free to share what your Guru's have shared about Nadi and the reasoning why its exact 12 mins for all nadis? It will help me get to the understanding of Nadis if u can share your vast experience. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thank you for very much for appreciating my website. > > In D150 chart, I suppose you count clockwise in each rasi. from that rasi. I mean if lagna is in Libra 1deg 22minutes (82minutes) in Rasi, each 150 th division being 12 minutes, the lagna falls after 6 signs from Libra in Aries counting 7th from Libra. If a planet is in 2 deg 6 min (126 minutes) in Aquarius in Rasi, the planet will be in Sagittarius counting 11 th from Aquarius and so on. > > In Nadi chart, it is not so even though the divisions are 150. In Moveable rasis, it goes clockwise from that rasi, in fixed rasis it goes anticlockwise from that rasi and in dual rasis it starts from middle of that rasi, goes to end and then goes to the beginning. This is because the first name of the nadi amsa in moveable rasi is same as the last one in fixed rasi and middle one in dual rasi. Each set of moveable, fixed and dual rasis are to be taken separately. I cannot explain here the details. Please see my article " Nadi Amsa Chart " where I have given the procedure to make the Nadi chart. I do not claim that it is the correct way to make the nadi chart. > > I do not know whether I have given some clarification useful to you.. > > Of course it is difficult to make the nadi chart manually. Somebody has to make a computer program. I could not test this nadi chart in many horoscopes since I do not have a computer program for the same. I published my method of making a nadi chart in the magazine " The Times of Astrology " , but nobody commented on it so far since nobody is interested in research. > > For your information, in D-60 chart, you cannot count clockwise in each rasi, because the name of the first shashiamsha (1/60) in odd rasi is same as the last in even rasi. My Guru told me yet differently that you should count it clockwise starting from Aries for planets in odd rasis in rasi chart and count anticlockwise starting from Pisces for planets in even rasis in rasi chart and also told me that you should consider the lordships in divisional charts. > > Thanks for checking my data of marriage as per KAS. I gave my method for quickly getting onto the probable marriage age as a thumb rule so that later on the details can be worked out. I do not claim that it is a fool-proof method. Fortunately many told me that they are getting good results from this thumb rule. Further research can be done in this if anybody is interested to improve this method. > > Unfortunately, I am not able to concentrate anymore for any further research, spending more time in Meditation. I have put it in my website whatever I know, hoping that persons like you would do further research and revive this great ancient science. > > Anyway, I do not want to go into discussion since this forum is for KAS. > > Thank you for recommending my website for people to visit. > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, > I was just going through your article on Nadi. I am a bit confused > due to maybe lack of understanding and you can correct me if I am > wrong. > > Can you please clarify some points for me. > > 1) Have you considered Nadi's as equal portions i.e. 150 equal > divisiosn within a Rasi ? > > 2) Is there any difference between D150 and a Nadi? > > The reason I ask is that from whatever little understanding I have > is that when a divisional chart or a planet in DChart changes then a > Nadi Changes. This is as per shodasa or 16 divisional charts. That > can't be equal parts? > > In my studies of Nadi with KAS and also Prashna Shastra with KAS > which we do it in a couple of ways and in one way we ask a number > between 1 and 1800 i.e. we fix the nadi. But this is all not linear. > > Can you please talk a little bit on your opinion on dividing the > sign into 150 equal parts i.e. nothing but a D150 chart v/s > considering 16 D charts and a planet changing signs? > > This will be useful for strengthening my basics on dwelving deeper > into Astrology. > > Please reply at your convenience as I have embarked on my journey to > go much deeper in to KAS and its application and sharing your vast > knowledge will help me. > > I went through your site and timed most of the charts on marriage on > your website and most of them are in line with KAS. I want to thank > u for sharing such data to the world for their studies. > > For those who would like to visit Pemmaraju's very nice website can > visit > > http://www.rayuduastrology.com/ > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Dear Pemmaraju, Yes, I understand about 150 nadis in 12 signs = 1800. However you have touched that point which is in my mind about unequal size of nadi and my understanding of this is due to fact that Trishansa is not linear. I wanted to understand why are Your Gurus taking equal divisions which becomes nothing but a D150 chart means take a Rasi and divide it into 150 equal parts but then that does not reflect the divisional charts. For example we say that when a Nadi changes means the planet has changed a position in D chart. Yes, one more thing is that as per KAS and its application in Horary we ask a number between 1 and 1800 thereby fixing the nadi and once that is done we know each divisional chart and position. So if you understand where I am coming from, I would like to understand the essence of taking and dividing a Rasi into 150 equal parts and the start of that is as per the text given by you i.e. based on dual, movable and fixed sign. Even if unequal divisions are taken i.e. based on Divisional charts i.e. 12 signs and 150 nadis (each nadi not necessarily be 12 mins) = 1800. However this difference or the reason why this is unequal might be due to the fact that Trishansa can't be linear. And again that is based on 16 Divisional charts. So the moot point is that is if u divide rasi into 150 equal parts and that becomes a D150 chart does it mean that in doing so we are ignoring the 16 D charts? Hence my questions. Please feel free to help me undestand this. Cheers !!! Ash , " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Yes, Each nadi is taken as 12 minutes in arc. It is derived from the Tatwa and Antar Tatwa Siddhanta as per the rotation of the Tatwas- Prithvi, Jala, Tejo, Vayu and Akash. Whatever my Guru, Late Shri D.V.Subbarao, mentioned in his book about this point, I have given it in my article " Tatwa/ Antar Tatwa Siddhanta " . Please read it. I have not read anything anywhere so far better than this. Even my other Guru, Late Dr B.V.Raman, also told me the same. My friend Late Shri R.Santhanam, who did enormous research work in this field, also mentioned each nadi amsa equal to 12 minutes arc only in his book " Deva Keralam " . So I may not help you more in this matter, than taking the nadis as equal 150 divisions of each 12 minutes arc amounting to a total of 1800 in each rasi. Some might have mentioned unequal divisions for each nadi, which we may ignore at this stage of research when we do not even understand the present equal division itself for interpretation of results. > > I wish you all success in preparing nadi chart and results therein, in addition to the interpretation of other varga charts. > > I will help you whatever I know so far. > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, > > KAS is a very detailed system which includes Nadi so by discussing > Nadi's we are in the realm of KAS only. > > However I have just begun my studies in Nadi and you have experience > and have won awards for your papers which is very nice. So I was > hoping that you will share your experience. > > Yes, I did read your post on Amsha's in Nadi and that is what I > wanted to understand. > > I do understand that there are 150 Nadi as given. I also understand > that the start of Nadi for Movable Rasi goes in clock wise manner, > of that in Fixed Rasi goes from anti clock wise manner and that of > Dual sign starts in the middle and then reaches 150th nadi and then > starts from 1. > > So Movable sign nadi starts from 1 to 150 > Fixed Sign nadi starts from 150 to 1 > Dual sign nadi starts from 76 to 150 and then 1 to 75. > > My question is that do u consider each nadi to be exact 12 mins each > i.e 150 nadis each of 12 mins = 1800. > > What I am trying to find or explore is the basics and the > fundamental. > > Please feel free to share what your Guru's have shared about Nadi > and the reasoning why its exact 12 mins for all nadis? > > It will help me get to the understanding of Nadis if u can share > your vast experience. > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Pemmaraju V.R. > Rayudu " <pvrrayudu@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Thank you for very much for appreciating my website. > > > > In D150 chart, I suppose you count clockwise in each rasi. from > that rasi. I mean if lagna is in Libra 1deg 22minutes (82minutes) in > Rasi, each 150 th division being 12 minutes, the lagna falls after 6 > signs from Libra in Aries counting 7th from Libra. If a planet is in > 2 deg 6 min (126 minutes) in Aquarius in Rasi, the planet will be in > Sagittarius counting 11 th from Aquarius and so on. > > > > In Nadi chart, it is not so even though the divisions are 150. > In Moveable rasis, it goes clockwise from that rasi, in fixed rasis > it goes anticlockwise from that rasi and in dual rasis it starts > from middle of that rasi, goes to end and then goes to the > beginning. This is because the first name of the nadi amsa in > moveable rasi is same as the last one in fixed rasi and middle one > in dual rasi. Each set of moveable, fixed and dual rasis are to be > taken separately. I cannot explain here the details. Please see my > article " Nadi Amsa Chart " where I have given the procedure to make > the Nadi chart. I do not claim that it is the correct way to make > the nadi chart. > > > > I do not know whether I have given some clarification useful to > you.. > > > > Of course it is difficult to make the nadi chart manually. > Somebody has to make a computer program. I could not test this nadi > chart in many horoscopes since I do not have a computer program for > the same. I published my method of making a nadi chart in the > magazine " The Times of Astrology " , but nobody commented on it so > far since nobody is interested in research. > > > > For your information, in D-60 chart, you cannot count clockwise > in each rasi, because the name of the first shashiamsha (1/60) in > odd rasi is same as the last in even rasi. My Guru told me yet > differently that you should count it clockwise starting from Aries > for planets in odd rasis in rasi chart and count anticlockwise > starting from Pisces for planets in even rasis in rasi chart and > also told me that you should consider the lordships in divisional > charts. > > > > Thanks for checking my data of marriage as per KAS. I gave my > method for quickly getting onto the probable marriage age as a thumb > rule so that later on the details can be worked out. I do not claim > that it is a fool-proof method. Fortunately many told me that they > are getting good results from this thumb rule. Further research can > be done in this if anybody is interested to improve this method. > > > > Unfortunately, I am not able to concentrate anymore for any > further research, spending more time in Meditation. I have put it in > my website whatever I know, hoping that persons like you would do > further research and revive this great ancient science. > > > > Anyway, I do not want to go into discussion since this forum is > for KAS. > > > > Thank you for recommending my website for people to visit. > > > > Blessings > > > > Pemmaraju > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, > > I was just going through your article on Nadi. I am a bit > confused > > due to maybe lack of understanding and you can correct me if I am > > wrong. > > > > Can you please clarify some points for me. > > > > 1) Have you considered Nadi's as equal portions i.e. 150 equal > > divisiosn within a Rasi ? > > > > 2) Is there any difference between D150 and a Nadi? > > > > The reason I ask is that from whatever little understanding I have > > is that when a divisional chart or a planet in DChart changes then > a > > Nadi Changes. This is as per shodasa or 16 divisional charts. > That > > can't be equal parts? > > > > In my studies of Nadi with KAS and also Prashna Shastra with KAS > > which we do it in a couple of ways and in one way we ask a number > > between 1 and 1800 i.e. we fix the nadi. But this is all not > linear. > > > > Can you please talk a little bit on your opinion on dividing the > > sign into 150 equal parts i.e. nothing but a D150 chart v/s > > considering 16 D charts and a planet changing signs? > > > > This will be useful for strengthening my basics on dwelving deeper > > into Astrology. > > > > Please reply at your convenience as I have embarked on my journey > to > > go much deeper in to KAS and its application and sharing your vast > > knowledge will help me. > > > > I went through your site and timed most of the charts on marriage > on > > your website and most of them are in line with KAS. I want to > thank > > u for sharing such data to the world for their studies. > > > > For those who would like to visit Pemmaraju's very nice website > can > > visit > > > > http://www.rayuduastrology.com/ > > > > Thanking you, > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Dear Ash, I really have not understood what you are driving at. Please explain more. My Gurus are not there to explain why they have taken equal divisions. As I have written, it must be as per the Tatwa/Antartatwa Siddhanta. It does not become D-150 chart, if that is what I understood as in my previous mail. I do not know what you mean by D-150 chart and how you would prepare. As I have explained D-150 chart and Nadi chart are different and different positions for lagnas and planets would come. In my article Nadi Amsha Chart, in the example lagna is 5 Libra 54 and in Nadi chart the lagna would be Pisces. If I take D-150 chart preparation as I understood in my previous mail, that is counting clockwise from libra 27th from libra the lagna would be in D-150 Sagittarius. Similarly there will be differnce in the positions of planets in D-150 and Nadi charts. Please give your D–150 chart / nadi chart for the data given in my article. I do not understand that when a nadi changes means the planet changed a position in D chart. Please explain further. In nadi chart, if a nadi changes, the lagna position changes and planets would mostly remain in the same position of sign in the nadi chart and of course its position with respect to nadi lagna changes the house position from nadi lagna. The nadi division of a planet and its position in a sign in nadi chart is decided as per its degrees and position in rasi. I also do not understand how in KAS and Horary after the number from 1 to 1800 is given and fixing the nadi, each divisional chart and position is known. By the number the lagna position and degrees are known and the planetary position is as on that date, location and time of cosultation/ when seen & analysed the chart. With this sign and degrees of lagna, the lagans of other varga charts could be known and ofcourse the position of planets are known in different vargas from natal chart positionsin degrees. Please take a number 926 on 6 March 2006 at 8:01 PM at Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India 17N23,78E29 and give the position of lagna and planets atleast for Moon in various varga charts including your D-150 / Nadi charts for my better understanding. Trimsamsa deals with odd and even signs where as nadi amsa deals with movceble,fixed abd dual signs. I do not understand how by dividing into equal parts for nadi chart, we are ignoring the 16 D charts. They are prepared as per their rules. All the charts are studied, if anybody knows how to interpret them, to arrive at correct deleanation of life pattern. As you know probably, broad pattern of life is given for each nadi amsa irrespective of particular lagna and other planetary positions for some of the nadi amass in “The Astrological Magazine” of Late Dr.B.V.Raman. Some more detailed results for some of the nadi amsas for different lagnas and planetary positions are given in “Deva Keralam – Chandrakala Nadi) by Late R.Santhanam. I do not think there is any literature available at any way to arrive at such results from any varga charts including any type of nadi chart. Let me know details. Blessings Pemmaraju ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, Yes, I understand about 150 nadis in 12 signs = 1800. However you have touched that point which is in my mind about unequal size of nadi and my understanding of this is due to fact that Trishansa is not linear. I wanted to understand why are Your Gurus taking equal divisions which becomes nothing but a D150 chart means take a Rasi and divide it into 150 equal parts but then that does not reflect the divisional charts. For example we say that when a Nadi changes means the planet has changed a position in D chart. Yes, one more thing is that as per KAS and its application in Horary we ask a number between 1 and 1800 thereby fixing the nadi and once that is done we know each divisional chart and position. So if you understand where I am coming from, I would like to understand the essence of taking and dividing a Rasi into 150 equal parts and the start of that is as per the text given by you i.e. based on dual, movable and fixed sign. Even if unequal divisions are taken i.e. based on Divisional charts i.e. 12 signs and 150 nadis (each nadi not necessarily be 12 mins) = 1800. However this difference or the reason why this is unequal might be due to the fact that Trishansa can't be linear. And again that is based on 16 Divisional charts. So the moot point is that is if u divide rasi into 150 equal parts and that becomes a D150 chart does it mean that in doing so we are ignoring the 16 D charts? Hence my questions. Please feel free to help me undestand this. Cheers !!! Ash , " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Yes, Each nadi is taken as 12 minutes in arc. It is derived from the Tatwa and Antar Tatwa Siddhanta as per the rotation of the Tatwas- Prithvi, Jala, Tejo, Vayu and Akash. Whatever my Guru, Late Shri D.V.Subbarao, mentioned in his book about this point, I have given it in my article " Tatwa/ Antar Tatwa Siddhanta " . Please read it. I have not read anything anywhere so far better than this. Even my other Guru, Late Dr B.V.Raman, also told me the same. My friend Late Shri R.Santhanam, who did enormous research work in this field, also mentioned each nadi amsa equal to 12 minutes arc only in his book " Deva Keralam " . So I may not help you more in this matter, than taking the nadis as equal 150 divisions of each 12 minutes arc amounting to a total of 1800 in each rasi. Some might have mentioned unequal divisions for each nadi, which we may ignore at this stage of research when we do not even understand the present equal division itself for interpretation of results. > > I wish you all success in preparing nadi chart and results therein, in addition to the interpretation of other varga charts. > > I will help you whatever I know so far. > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, > > KAS is a very detailed system which includes Nadi so by discussing > Nadi's we are in the realm of KAS only. > > However I have just begun my studies in Nadi and you have experience > and have won awards for your papers which is very nice. So I was > hoping that you will share your experience. > > Yes, I did read your post on Amsha's in Nadi and that is what I > wanted to understand. > > I do understand that there are 150 Nadi as given. I also understand > that the start of Nadi for Movable Rasi goes in clock wise manner, > of that in Fixed Rasi goes from anti clock wise manner and that of > Dual sign starts in the middle and then reaches 150th nadi and then > starts from 1. > > So Movable sign nadi starts from 1 to 150 > Fixed Sign nadi starts from 150 to 1 > Dual sign nadi starts from 76 to 150 and then 1 to 75. > > My question is that do u consider each nadi to be exact 12 mins each > i.e 150 nadis each of 12 mins = 1800. > > What I am trying to find or explore is the basics and the > fundamental. > > Please feel free to share what your Guru's have shared about Nadi > and the reasoning why its exact 12 mins for all nadis? > > It will help me get to the understanding of Nadis if u can share > your vast experience. > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Pemmaraju V.R. > Rayudu " <pvrrayudu@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Thank you for very much for appreciating my website. > > > > In D150 chart, I suppose you count clockwise in each rasi. from > that rasi. I mean if lagna is in Libra 1deg 22minutes (82minutes) in > Rasi, each 150 th division being 12 minutes, the lagna falls after 6 > signs from Libra in Aries counting 7th from Libra. If a planet is in > 2 deg 6 min (126 minutes) in Aquarius in Rasi, the planet will be in > Sagittarius counting 11 th from Aquarius and so on. > > > > In Nadi chart, it is not so even though the divisions are 150. > In Moveable rasis, it goes clockwise from that rasi, in fixed rasis > it goes anticlockwise from that rasi and in dual rasis it starts > from middle of that rasi, goes to end and then goes to the > beginning. This is because the first name of the nadi amsa in > moveable rasi is same as the last one in fixed rasi and middle one > in dual rasi. Each set of moveable, fixed and dual rasis are to be > taken separately. I cannot explain here the details. Please see my > article " Nadi Amsa Chart " where I have given the procedure to make > the Nadi chart. I do not claim that it is the correct way to make > the nadi chart. > > > > I do not know whether I have given some clarification useful to > you.. > > > > Of course it is difficult to make the nadi chart manually. > Somebody has to make a computer program. I could not test this nadi > chart in many horoscopes since I do not have a computer program for > the same. I published my method of making a nadi chart in the > magazine " The Times of Astrology " , but nobody commented on it so > far since nobody is interested in research. > > > > For your information, in D-60 chart, you cannot count clockwise > in each rasi, because the name of the first shashiamsha (1/60) in > odd rasi is same as the last in even rasi. My Guru told me yet > differently that you should count it clockwise starting from Aries > for planets in odd rasis in rasi chart and count anticlockwise > starting from Pisces for planets in even rasis in rasi chart and > also told me that you should consider the lordships in divisional > charts. > > > > Thanks for checking my data of marriage as per KAS. I gave my > method for quickly getting onto the probable marriage age as a thumb > rule so that later on the details can be worked out. I do not claim > that it is a fool-proof method. Fortunately many told me that they > are getting good results from this thumb rule. Further research can > be done in this if anybody is interested to improve this method. > > > > Unfortunately, I am not able to concentrate anymore for any > further research, spending more time in Meditation. I have put it in > my website whatever I know, hoping that persons like you would do > further research and revive this great ancient science. > > > > Anyway, I do not want to go into discussion since this forum is > for KAS. > > > > Thank you for recommending my website for people to visit. > > > > Blessings > > > > Pemmaraju > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: Dear Pemmaraju, > > I was just going through your article on Nadi. I am a bit > confused > > due to maybe lack of understanding and you can correct me if I am > > wrong. > > > > Can you please clarify some points for me. > > > > 1) Have you considered Nadi's as equal portions i.e. 150 equal > > divisiosn within a Rasi ? > > > > 2) Is there any difference between D150 and a Nadi? > > > > The reason I ask is that from whatever little understanding I have > > is that when a divisional chart or a planet in DChart changes then > a > > Nadi Changes. This is as per shodasa or 16 divisional charts. > That > > can't be equal parts? > > > > In my studies of Nadi with KAS and also Prashna Shastra with KAS > > which we do it in a couple of ways and in one way we ask a number > > between 1 and 1800 i.e. we fix the nadi. But this is all not > linear. > > > > Can you please talk a little bit on your opinion on dividing the > > sign into 150 equal parts i.e. nothing but a D150 chart v/s > > considering 16 D charts and a planet changing signs? > > > > This will be useful for strengthening my basics on dwelving deeper > > into Astrology. > > > > Please reply at your convenience as I have embarked on my journey > to > > go much deeper in to KAS and its application and sharing your vast > > knowledge will help me. > > > > I went through your site and timed most of the charts on marriage > on > > your website and most of them are in line with KAS. I want to > thank > > u for sharing such data to the world for their studies. > > > > For those who would like to visit Pemmaraju's very nice website > can > > visit > > > > http://www.rayuduastrology.com/ > > > > Thanking you, > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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