Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Have difficult finding a new job for the last 3 years or so. Severe frustration on that account. Life is good otherwise, Can anyone explain. Gopal Birth Place: Chennai, India Birth Time: 4.54AM Birth Sep 23-1976. Education: M.S Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since then. Marriage: June 11-2001 Daughter: 1-12-2003 Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Dear Group, I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily tell u about the reason for job. But I am taking this chart up to point out a special law that Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation to the group. This Gentleman had twin children with conception in about dec 2004 i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might have had twins in Ju antra? Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th house. I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage might have been in Moon antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months difference. This gentleman is born in Ve MD so small change in time can change can reflect large change in start and end of dashsa. In any case I am not spending time in rectifying the chart but just pointing this fact out. For other things like Job, DBCE points, career etc I am sure anyone who studies this chart and want to practice w.r.t career, finances etc can easily point out you have faced problems in Guru antra and quite possible u might have faced some challenges w.r.t debt/higher expenses or less satisfaction with respect to income in Rahu antra too once the WS is cast and planets are studied closely. Cheers !!! Ash , " GOPAL " <gopal_ks wrote: > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last 3 years or so. Severe > frustration on that account. Life is good otherwise, Can anyone > explain. > > Gopal > Birth Place: Chennai, India > Birth Time: 4.54AM > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > Education: M.S > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since then. > Marriage: June 11-2001 > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Time is known to be very accurate Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in mid jan 2006. Income is relatively very high according to most but with the number of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than income. Expenses have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing which is causing me to seek additional income through job change. I need to know when I may get the break with regard to job change? Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with regard to job despite being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with regard to children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house and the sarva score is 32 for that house. , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Group, > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily tell u about the > reason for job. > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a special law that > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation to the group. > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception in about dec 2004 > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might have had twins in > Ju antra? > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th house. > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage might have been in Moon > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months difference. This gentleman is > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change can reflect large > change in start and end of dashsa. > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying the chart but just > pointing this fact out. > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career etc I am sure anyone > who studies this chart and want to practice w.r.t career, finances > etc can easily point out you have faced problems in Guru antra and > quite possible u might have faced some challenges w.r.t debt/higher > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to income in Rahu antra > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied closely. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " GOPAL " > <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last 3 years or so. > Severe > > frustration on that account. Life is good otherwise, Can anyone > > explain. > > > > Gopal > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > Education: M.S > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since then. > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Time is known to be very accurate Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in mid jan 2006. Income is relatively very high according to most but with the number of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than income. Expenses have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing which is causing me to seek additional income through job change. I need to know when I may get the break with regard to job change? Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with regard to job despite being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with regard to children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house and the sarva score is 32 for that house. , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Group, > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily tell u about the > reason for job. > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a special law that > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation to the group. > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception in about dec 2004 > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might have had twins in > Ju antra? > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th house. > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage might have been in Moon > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months difference. This gentleman is > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change can reflect large > change in start and end of dashsa. > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying the chart but just > pointing this fact out. > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career etc I am sure anyone > who studies this chart and want to practice w.r.t career, finances > etc can easily point out you have faced problems in Guru antra and > quite possible u might have faced some challenges w.r.t debt/higher > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to income in Rahu antra > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied closely. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " GOPAL " > <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last 3 years or so. > Severe > > frustration on that account. Life is good otherwise, Can anyone > > explain. > > > > Gopal > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > Education: M.S > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since then. > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Please make sure of the time. Were your twins conceived in Jan 2005 or Jan 2006? Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and cast your chart using KAY. Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not use Prati antar Dasha. Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready reference so that members attempting your chart, their analysis using KAS you can understand. And out of courtesy sign your name please. Cheers !!! Ash , " GOPAL " <gopal_ks wrote: > > Time is known to be very accurate > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in mid jan 2006. > > Income is relatively very high according to most but with the number > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than income. Expenses > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing which is causing > me to seek additional income through job change. > > I need to know when I may get the break with regard to job change? > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with regard to job despite > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with regard to > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house and the sarva > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily tell u about the > > reason for job. > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a special law that > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation to the group. > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception in about dec 2004 > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might have had twins in > > Ju antra? > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th house. > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage might have been in > Moon > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months difference. This gentleman > is > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change can reflect large > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying the chart but > just > > pointing this fact out. > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career etc I am sure > anyone > > who studies this chart and want to practice w.r.t career, finances > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems in Guru antra and > > quite possible u might have faced some challenges w.r.t > debt/higher > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to income in Rahu antra > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied closely. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , " GOPAL " > > <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last 3 years or so. > > Severe > > > frustration on that account. Life is good otherwise, Can anyone > > > explain. > > > > > > Gopal > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since then. > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 I apologize as a new member to the group. Will try to learn this system. Twins were conceived in jan-2005 and were born on 9-27-2005. They are about 5 months old[boy and girl]. First daughter was born on 1- 12-2003. Thanks Gopal , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins conceived in Jan 2005 > or Jan 2006? > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and cast your chart > using KAY. > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not use Prati antar > Dasha. > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready reference so > that members attempting your chart, their analysis using KAS you can > understand. > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " GOPAL " > <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in mid jan 2006. > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most but with the > number > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than income. Expenses > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing which is > causing > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with regard to job change? > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with regard to job despite > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with regard to > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house and the sarva > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily tell u about the > > > reason for job. > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a special law that > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation to the group. > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception in about dec > 2004 > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might have had twins > in > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th house. > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage might have been in > > Moon > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months difference. This > gentleman > > is > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change can reflect > large > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying the chart but > > just > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career etc I am sure > > anyone > > > who studies this chart and want to practice w.r.t career, > finances > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems in Guru antra > and > > > quite possible u might have faced some challenges w.r.t > > debt/higher > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to income in Rahu > antra > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied closely. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " GOPAL " > > > <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last 3 years or so. > > > Severe > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good otherwise, Can > anyone > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since then. > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo navamsa.KAY is 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness of the chart. Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its authenticity. However marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. Rahu is SD to Nk of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of B. It occupies house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself LoB also. In navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th lord from House 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual marriage was performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal according to Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be checked. Ramesh Mishra ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Please make sure of the time. Were your twins conceived in Jan 2005 or Jan 2006? Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and cast your chart using KAY. Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not use Prati antar Dasha. Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready reference so that members attempting your chart, their analysis using KAS you can understand. And out of courtesy sign your name please. Cheers !!! Ash , " GOPAL " <gopal_ks wrote: > > Time is known to be very accurate > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in mid jan 2006. > > Income is relatively very high according to most but with the number > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than income. Expenses > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing which is causing > me to seek additional income through job change. > > I need to know when I may get the break with regard to job change? > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with regard to job despite > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with regard to > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house and the sarva > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily tell u about the > > reason for job. > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a special law that > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation to the group. > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception in about dec 2004 > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might have had twins in > > Ju antra? > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th house. > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage might have been in > Moon > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months difference. This gentleman > is > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change can reflect large > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying the chart but > just > > pointing this fact out. > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career etc I am sure > anyone > > who studies this chart and want to practice w.r.t career, finances > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems in Guru antra and > > quite possible u might have faced some challenges w.r.t > debt/higher > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to income in Rahu antra > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied closely. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , " GOPAL " > > <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last 3 years or so. > > Severe > > > frustration on that account. Life is good otherwise, Can anyone > > > explain. > > > > > > Gopal > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since then. > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Dear Ramesh, Very good that atleast you have first begun to check the authenticity of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins difference. Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had asked me to be thorough and make full effort to first make sure of birth time before venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very noble science and its not a joke. I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check some events. Yes, you found that something was amiss here. You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that 9th lord has gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak sthan. So that might play some part in reducing delay. Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The antra before that in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power and is LoE. The birth time is in ball park i feel however there might be slight difference in time. I do not know when this marriage was fixed either. Sometimes there can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat that might case delays. Here if Gopal can give more details on when the marriage was fixed and we know when it was performed. In that case things will get sorted out. Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp than income. Are u able to see that in the WS? Cheers !!! Ash , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo navamsa.KAY is 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness of the chart. Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its authenticity. However marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. Rahu is SD to Nk of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of B. It occupies house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself LoB also. In navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th lord from House 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual marriage was performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal according to Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be checked. > Ramesh Mishra > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins conceived in Jan 2005 > or Jan 2006? > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and cast your chart > using KAY. > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not use Prati antar > Dasha. > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready reference so > that members attempting your chart, their analysis using KAS you can > understand. > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " GOPAL " > <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in mid jan 2006. > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most but with the > number > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than income. Expenses > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing which is > causing > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with regard to job change? > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with regard to job despite > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with regard to > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house and the sarva > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily tell u about the > > > reason for job. > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a special law that > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation to the group. > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception in about dec > 2004 > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might have had twins > in > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th house. > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage might have been in > > Moon > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months difference. This > gentleman > > is > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change can reflect > large > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying the chart but > > just > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career etc I am sure > > anyone > > > who studies this chart and want to practice w.r.t career, > finances > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems in Guru antra > and > > > quite possible u might have faced some challenges w.r.t > > debt/higher > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to income in Rahu > antra > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied closely. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " GOPAL " > > > <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last 3 years or so. > > > Severe > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good otherwise, Can > anyone > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since then. > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 My Dear Ash, Namaskar, Sorry for overlooking the relationship between lagnalord and 9th lord.Before checking the chart I was checking that relationship but somehow missed it.Then I checked up in navamsa. Yes Sir, you are right both the lords are in karak sthaan thus nullifying the delay.and marriage is timely. Whereas expenditure should be less than his income as per SAV points in 11th and 12 house.Points in 12th house is less than that of 11th house His 12th house points and 10th house points are same and 11th house point is 32 which is more than that of 10th and 11th(30 points each).His DBCE from lagna is also in increasing order but this is not for expenditure.However chart is not before me so at present i can't see the planets contribution for 11th and 12th house from WS.Let you know next day. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Ramesh, Very good that atleast you have first begun to check the authenticity of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins difference. Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had asked me to be thorough and make full effort to first make sure of birth time before venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very noble science and its not a joke. I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check some events. Yes, you found that something was amiss here. You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that 9th lord has gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak sthan. So that might play some part in reducing delay. Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The antra before that in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power and is LoE. The birth time is in ball park i feel however there might be slight difference in time. I do not know when this marriage was fixed either. Sometimes there can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat that might case delays. Here if Gopal can give more details on when the marriage was fixed and we know when it was performed. In that case things will get sorted out. Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp than income. Are u able to see that in the WS? Cheers !!! Ash , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo navamsa.KAY is 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness of the chart. Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its authenticity. However marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. Rahu is SD to Nk of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of B. It occupies house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself LoB also. In navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th lord from House 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual marriage was performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal according to Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be checked. > Ramesh Mishra > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins conceived in Jan 2005 > or Jan 2006? > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and cast your chart > using KAY. > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not use Prati antar > Dasha. > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready reference so > that members attempting your chart, their analysis using KAS you can > understand. > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " GOPAL " > <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in mid jan 2006. > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most but with the > number > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than income. Expenses > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing which is > causing > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with regard to job change? > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with regard to job despite > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with regard to > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house and the sarva > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily tell u about the > > > reason for job. > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a special law that > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation to the group. > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception in about dec > 2004 > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might have had twins > in > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th house. > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage might have been in > > Moon > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months difference. This > gentleman > > is > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change can reflect > large > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying the chart but > > just > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career etc I am sure > > anyone > > > who studies this chart and want to practice w.r.t career, > finances > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems in Guru antra > and > > > quite possible u might have faced some challenges w.r.t > > debt/higher > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to income in Rahu > antra > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied closely. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " GOPAL " > > > <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last 3 years or so. > > > Severe > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good otherwise, Can > anyone > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since then. > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Dear Ramesh, I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the current antra Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running. Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra. If 12th is more than 11th then it means that the native is facing more expenses than income. Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats happening on the job front. So if the native is facing problems in job then check the job related houses and the power of the planets in WS for that antra. Check the next antra to see what will happen going forward and the points of planets w.r.t. job related house. So what do u see happening now in the current antra that Gopal is in? If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of that? Check the natives brilliance of the native ? Check the career giving planets and ask the native in which field is he in? Say the career givign planets are Venus, Venus, Venus i.e .from 10th lords from lagna sun and moon and they are in navamsa of Venus. If such a person is put in a mechanical enginnering shop floor he might be happy and he might eventually change his field to somewhere where he can use his artistic knowledge and flourish. Get an idea on the nature and capability of the person. SAV is for overall result, but WS is giving us power in specific antras. So if 11th vs 12th points in SAV in 11th is more than 12th then the person will have savings in his life, but what is happening in a particular antra we can see from WS. These are somethings I can check off the top of my head. Yes, I am not dwleving into transit of Sa and Ju planets etc but u can get into that slowly. So ask question but first make sure u get full idea of the native and his nature and the chart will reflect that. Again go through the lessons closely if u are stuck up. Try again using the above hints. But in general Gopal asked, Ju is in 10th house with 4 bindus and its in a house with 32 bindus then how come he is facing issues in job or unable to find a better job? I beleive the understanding of Gopal is that if a planet is in 10th house and with netural bindus and if its in a house with 32 points must mean that it should be good for job and career but facts are not reflecting the same? This is also what many people having limited knowledge of Ashtakvarg which is found in books might also have. So here u can clear their doubts and give concrete results based on firm grounds on the importance of KAS in timing of event. Try again Ramesh, I have full confidence that u can just look at the WS and tell Gopal about his job and issues faced there in and more expense than income. Other list members can also attempt the same who are more experienced with KAS. l Cheers !!! Ash ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: My Dear Ash, Namaskar, Sorry for overlooking the relationship between lagnalord and 9th lord.Before checking the chart I was checking that relationship but somehow missed it.Then I checked up in navamsa. Yes Sir, you are right both the lords are in karak sthaan thus nullifying the delay.and marriage is timely. Whereas expenditure should be less than his income as per SAV points in 11th and 12 house.Points in 12th house is less than that of 11th house His 12th house points and 10th house points are same and 11th house point is 32 which is more than that of 10th and 11th(30 points each).His DBCE from lagna is also in increasing order but this is not for expenditure.However chart is not before me so at present i can't see the planets contribution for 11th and 12th house from WS.Let you know next day. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra --- ashsam73 wrote: Dear Ramesh, Very good that atleast you have first begun to check the authenticity of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins difference. Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had asked me to be thorough and make full effort to first make sure of birth time before venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very noble science and its not a joke. I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check some events. Yes, you found that something was amiss here. You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that 9th lord has gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak sthan. So that might play some part in reducing delay. Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The antra before that in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power and is LoE. The birth time is in ball park i feel however there might be slight difference in time. I do not know when this marriage was fixed either. Sometimes there can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat that might case delays. Here if Gopal can give more details on when the marriage was fixed and we know when it was performed. In that case things will get sorted out. Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp than income. Are u able to see that in the WS? Cheers !!! Ash , ramesh mishra wrote: > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo navamsa.KAY is 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness of the chart. Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its authenticity. However marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. Rahu is SD to Nk of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of B. It occupies house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself LoB also. In navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th lord from House 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual marriage was performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal according to Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be checked. > Ramesh Mishra > > ashsam73 wrote: > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins conceived in Jan 2005 > or Jan 2006? > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and cast your chart > using KAY. > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not use Prati antar > Dasha. > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready reference so > that members attempting your chart, their analysis using KAS you can > understand. > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " GOPAL " > wrote: > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in mid jan 2006. > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most but with the > number > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than income. Expenses > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing which is > causing > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with regard to job change? > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with regard to job despite > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with regard to > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house and the sarva > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily tell u about the > > > reason for job. > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a special law that > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation to the group. > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception in about dec > 2004 > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might have had twins > in > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th house. > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage might have been in > > Moon > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months difference. This > gentleman > > is > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change can reflect > large > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying the chart but > > just > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career etc I am sure > > anyone > > > who studies this chart and want to practice w.r.t career, > finances > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems in Guru antra > and > > > quite possible u might have faced some challenges w.r.t > > debt/higher > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to income in Rahu > antra > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied closely. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " GOPAL " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last 3 years or so. > > > Severe > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good otherwise, Can > anyone > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since then. > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 More data for further analysis 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000 but the actual marriage took place on june-11-2001; 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from june-1998 to nov- -2000. 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst(programmer) and working since then nov2000 to now. 7) relocated within the company to texas from wisconsin on april-30- 2005. 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and expenses, but feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect. Thanks Gopal , Ash <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the current antra Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running. > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra. If 12th is more than 11th then it means that the native is facing more expenses than income. > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats happening on the job front. > > So if the native is facing problems in job then check the job related houses and the power of the planets in WS for that antra. Check the next antra to see what will happen going forward and the points of planets w.r.t. job related house. > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra that Gopal is in? > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of that? > > Check the natives brilliance of the native ? > > Check the career giving planets and ask the native in which field is he in? Say the career givign planets are Venus, Venus, Venus i.e .from 10th lords from lagna sun and moon and they are in navamsa of Venus. If such a person is put in a mechanical enginnering shop floor he might be happy and he might eventually change his field to somewhere where he can use his artistic knowledge and flourish. > > Get an idea on the nature and capability of the person. > > SAV is for overall result, but WS is giving us power in specific antras. > > So if 11th vs 12th points in SAV in 11th is more than 12th then the person will have savings in his life, but what is happening in a particular antra we can see from WS. > > These are somethings I can check off the top of my head. Yes, I am not dwleving into transit of Sa and Ju planets etc but u can get into that slowly. > > So ask question but first make sure u get full idea of the native and his nature and the chart will reflect that. > > Again go through the lessons closely if u are stuck up. > > Try again using the above hints. But in general Gopal asked, Ju is in 10th house with 4 bindus and its in a house with 32 bindus then how come he is facing issues in job or unable to find a better job? > > I beleive the understanding of Gopal is that if a planet is in 10th house and with netural bindus and if its in a house with 32 points must mean that it should be good for job and career but facts are not reflecting the same? > > This is also what many people having limited knowledge of Ashtakvarg which is found in books might also have. So here u can clear their doubts and give concrete results based on firm grounds on the importance of KAS in timing of event. > > Try again Ramesh, I have full confidence that u can just look at the WS and tell Gopal about his job and issues faced there in and more expense than income. > > Other list members can also attempt the same who are more experienced with KAS. > l > Cheers !!! > Ash > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > My Dear Ash, Namaskar, > Sorry for overlooking the relationship between > lagnalord and 9th lord.Before checking the chart I was > checking that relationship but somehow missed it.Then > I checked up in navamsa. Yes Sir, you are right both > the lords are in karak sthaan thus nullifying the > delay.and marriage is timely. > Whereas expenditure should be less than his income as > per SAV points in 11th and 12 house.Points in 12th > house is less than that of 11th house His 12th house > points and 10th house points are same and 11th house > point is 32 which is more than that of 10th and > 11th(30 points each).His DBCE from lagna is also in > increasing order but this is not for > expenditure.However chart is not before me so at > present i can't see the planets contribution for 11th > and 12th house from WS.Let you know next day. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > --- ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > Very good that atleast you have first begun to check > the authenticity > of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins > difference. > Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had > asked me to be > thorough and make full effort to first make sure of > birth time before > venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very > noble science > and its not a joke. > I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check > some events. > Yes, you found that something was amiss here. > > You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that > 9th lord has > gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak > sthan. So that > might play some part in reducing delay. > > Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The > antra before that > in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power > and is LoE. > > The birth time is in ball park i feel however there > might be slight > difference in time. > > I do not know when this marriage was fixed either. > Sometimes there > can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat > that might case > delays. > > Here if Gopal can give more details on when the > marriage was fixed > and we know when it was performed. In that case > things will get > sorted out. > > Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp > than income. Are > u able to see that in the WS? > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , > ramesh mishra > wrote: > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, > > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo > navamsa.KAY is > 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness > of the chart. > Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its > authenticity. However > marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. > Rahu is SD to Nk > of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. > > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of > B. It occupies > house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself > LoB also. In > navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th > lord from House > 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual > marriage was > performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal > according to > Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be > checked. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins > conceived in Jan > 2005 > > or Jan 2006? > > > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and > cast your chart > > using KAY. > > > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not > use Prati antar > > Dasha. > > > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready > reference so > > that members attempting your chart, their analysis > using KAS you > can > > understand. > > > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , > " GOPAL " > > wrote: > > > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in > mid jan 2006. > > > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most > but with the > > number > > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than > income. Expenses > > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing > which is > > causing > > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with > regard to job > change? > > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with > regard to job > despite > > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with > regard to > > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house > and the sarva > > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily > tell u about the > > > > reason for job. > > > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a > special law that > > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation > to the group. > > > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception > in about dec > > 2004 > > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might > have had twins > > in > > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th > house. > > > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage > might have been in > > > Moon > > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months > difference. This > > gentleman > > > is > > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change > can reflect > > large > > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying > the chart but > > > just > > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career > etc I am sure > > > anyone > > > > who studies this chart and want to practice > w.r.t career, > > finances > > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems > in Guru antra > > and > > > > quite possible u might have faced some > challenges w.r.t > > > debt/higher > > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to > income in Rahu > > antra > > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied > closely. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , > " GOPAL " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last > 3 years or so. > > > > Severe > > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good > otherwise, Can > > anyone > > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since > then. > > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar, I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in my hand.As is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and Moon is 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is 27:27:36:30 in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and Moon the native is ready to take risk in life. No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native lacks sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is in Me divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second house. Lesson 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always gives some obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and he occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24 points in 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of Sat is more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of income. Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is very weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th (20) than that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes up to Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu is SD to Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th house than that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be there for native. Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan karak and 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies dhansthaan.Similarly Jup is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job and he too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This Jup and 6th lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak and bhagya karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ). I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit in this chart. Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house is less than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a good income compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th than the 36 in 11th house. In WS also Jup in 10th house has 17 points than the 18 in 11th house.Though it is almost equal. Sir please check up my readings so far whether I am inline or some improvemetns is needed. I will advance further for occupation only after listening my approach from you. As per this chart Native should do a business of Saturn related matters. Awaiting for your guidance.Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra GOPAL <gopal_ks wrote: More data for further analysis 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000 but the actual marriage took place on june-11-2001; 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from june-1998 to nov- -2000. 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst(programmer) and working since then nov2000 to now. 7) relocated within the company to texas from wisconsin on april-30- 2005. 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and expenses, but feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect. Thanks Gopal , Ash <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the current antra Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running. > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra. If 12th is more than 11th then it means that the native is facing more expenses than income. > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats happening on the job front. > > So if the native is facing problems in job then check the job related houses and the power of the planets in WS for that antra. Check the next antra to see what will happen going forward and the points of planets w.r.t. job related house. > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra that Gopal is in? > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of that? > > Check the natives brilliance of the native ? > > Check the career giving planets and ask the native in which field is he in? Say the career givign planets are Venus, Venus, Venus i.e .from 10th lords from lagna sun and moon and they are in navamsa of Venus. If such a person is put in a mechanical enginnering shop floor he might be happy and he might eventually change his field to somewhere where he can use his artistic knowledge and flourish. > > Get an idea on the nature and capability of the person. > > SAV is for overall result, but WS is giving us power in specific antras. > > So if 11th vs 12th points in SAV in 11th is more than 12th then the person will have savings in his life, but what is happening in a particular antra we can see from WS. > > These are somethings I can check off the top of my head. Yes, I am not dwleving into transit of Sa and Ju planets etc but u can get into that slowly. > > So ask question but first make sure u get full idea of the native and his nature and the chart will reflect that. > > Again go through the lessons closely if u are stuck up. > > Try again using the above hints. But in general Gopal asked, Ju is in 10th house with 4 bindus and its in a house with 32 bindus then how come he is facing issues in job or unable to find a better job? > > I beleive the understanding of Gopal is that if a planet is in 10th house and with netural bindus and if its in a house with 32 points must mean that it should be good for job and career but facts are not reflecting the same? > > This is also what many people having limited knowledge of Ashtakvarg which is found in books might also have. So here u can clear their doubts and give concrete results based on firm grounds on the importance of KAS in timing of event. > > Try again Ramesh, I have full confidence that u can just look at the WS and tell Gopal about his job and issues faced there in and more expense than income. > > Other list members can also attempt the same who are more experienced with KAS. > l > Cheers !!! > Ash > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > My Dear Ash, Namaskar, > Sorry for overlooking the relationship between > lagnalord and 9th lord.Before checking the chart I was > checking that relationship but somehow missed it.Then > I checked up in navamsa. Yes Sir, you are right both > the lords are in karak sthaan thus nullifying the > delay.and marriage is timely. > Whereas expenditure should be less than his income as > per SAV points in 11th and 12 house.Points in 12th > house is less than that of 11th house His 12th house > points and 10th house points are same and 11th house > point is 32 which is more than that of 10th and > 11th(30 points each).His DBCE from lagna is also in > increasing order but this is not for > expenditure.However chart is not before me so at > present i can't see the planets contribution for 11th > and 12th house from WS.Let you know next day. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > --- ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > Very good that atleast you have first begun to check > the authenticity > of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins > difference. > Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had > asked me to be > thorough and make full effort to first make sure of > birth time before > venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very > noble science > and its not a joke. > I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check > some events. > Yes, you found that something was amiss here. > > You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that > 9th lord has > gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak > sthan. So that > might play some part in reducing delay. > > Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The > antra before that > in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power > and is LoE. > > The birth time is in ball park i feel however there > might be slight > difference in time. > > I do not know when this marriage was fixed either. > Sometimes there > can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat > that might case > delays. > > Here if Gopal can give more details on when the > marriage was fixed > and we know when it was performed. In that case > things will get > sorted out. > > Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp > than income. Are > u able to see that in the WS? > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , > ramesh mishra > wrote: > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, > > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo > navamsa.KAY is > 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness > of the chart. > Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its > authenticity. However > marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. > Rahu is SD to Nk > of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. > > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of > B. It occupies > house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself > LoB also. In > navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th > lord from House > 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual > marriage was > performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal > according to > Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be > checked. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins > conceived in Jan > 2005 > > or Jan 2006? > > > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and > cast your chart > > using KAY. > > > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not > use Prati antar > > Dasha. > > > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready > reference so > > that members attempting your chart, their analysis > using KAS you > can > > understand. > > > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , > " GOPAL " > > wrote: > > > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in > mid jan 2006. > > > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most > but with the > > number > > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than > income. Expenses > > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing > which is > > causing > > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with > regard to job > change? > > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with > regard to job > despite > > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with > regard to > > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house > and the sarva > > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily > tell u about the > > > > reason for job. > > > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a > special law that > > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation > to the group. > > > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception > in about dec > > 2004 > > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might > have had twins > > in > > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th > house. > > > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage > might have been in > > > Moon > > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months > difference. This > > gentleman > > > is > > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change > can reflect > > large > > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying > the chart but > > > just > > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career > etc I am sure > > > anyone > > > > who studies this chart and want to practice > w.r.t career, > > finances > > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems > in Guru antra > > and > > > > quite possible u might have faced some > challenges w.r.t > > > debt/higher > > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to > income in Rahu > > antra > > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied > closely. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , > " GOPAL " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last > 3 years or so. > > > > Severe > > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good > otherwise, Can > > anyone > > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since > then. > > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Dear Ramesh, Do not worry about specific things like Karako Bhava Nyasa because KAS covers such things directly or indirectly. Our system also covers all the exceptions too. Ju in 5th house for Gemini lagna as per classics might give karako bhava nyasa, but is it so? As per KAS, Ju for Gemini lagna becomes LoE. So infact it becomes eager to give timing. Again, when we talk of Karaka's we are talking about A and LoA. Here we are focussing on Timing of event so we are also consider A+B+C means points of A i.e. karak, phal and phalit sthan. So u do not have to bother about such things seperately. Do not bother about Yoga's too they are all covered i.e. planets with relative positions to each other and lagna are all covered in SAV. From that we are making WS means the BASE from what WS is made is WS. From our system we get ACCURATE combined power for each planet for all 12 house. That is a very big thing. Rest in next mail on your analysis that i see should be pointed out. Cheers !!! Ash ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar, I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in my hand.As is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and Moon is 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is 27:27:36:30 in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and Moon the native is ready to take risk in life. No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native lacks sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is in Me divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second house. Lesson 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always gives some obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and he occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24 points in 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of Sat is more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of income. Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is very weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th (20) than that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes up to Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu is SD to Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th house than that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be there for native. Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan karak and 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies dhansthaan.Similarly Jup is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job and he too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This Jup and 6th lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak and bhagya karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ). I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit in this chart. Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house is less than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a good income compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th than the 36 in 11th house. In WS also Jup in 10th house has 17 points than the 18 in 11th house.Though it is almost equal. Sir please check up my readings so far whether I am inline or some improvemetns is needed. I will advance further for occupation only after listening my approach from you. As per this chart Native should do a business of Saturn related matters. Awaiting for your guidance.Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra GOPAL wrote: More data for further analysis 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000 but the actual marriage took place on june-11-2001; 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from june-1998 to nov- -2000. 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst(programmer) and working since then nov2000 to now. 7) relocated within the company to texas from wisconsin on april-30- 2005. 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and expenses, but feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect. Thanks Gopal , Ash wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the current antra Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running. > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra. If 12th is more than 11th then it means that the native is facing more expenses than income. > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats happening on the job front. > > So if the native is facing problems in job then check the job related houses and the power of the planets in WS for that antra. Check the next antra to see what will happen going forward and the points of planets w.r.t. job related house. > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra that Gopal is in? > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of that? > > Check the natives brilliance of the native ? > > Check the career giving planets and ask the native in which field is he in? Say the career givign planets are Venus, Venus, Venus i.e .from 10th lords from lagna sun and moon and they are in navamsa of Venus. If such a person is put in a mechanical enginnering shop floor he might be happy and he might eventually change his field to somewhere where he can use his artistic knowledge and flourish. > > Get an idea on the nature and capability of the person. > > SAV is for overall result, but WS is giving us power in specific antras. > > So if 11th vs 12th points in SAV in 11th is more than 12th then the person will have savings in his life, but what is happening in a particular antra we can see from WS. > > These are somethings I can check off the top of my head. Yes, I am not dwleving into transit of Sa and Ju planets etc but u can get into that slowly. > > So ask question but first make sure u get full idea of the native and his nature and the chart will reflect that. > > Again go through the lessons closely if u are stuck up. > > Try again using the above hints. But in general Gopal asked, Ju is in 10th house with 4 bindus and its in a house with 32 bindus then how come he is facing issues in job or unable to find a better job? > > I beleive the understanding of Gopal is that if a planet is in 10th house and with netural bindus and if its in a house with 32 points must mean that it should be good for job and career but facts are not reflecting the same? > > This is also what many people having limited knowledge of Ashtakvarg which is found in books might also have. So here u can clear their doubts and give concrete results based on firm grounds on the importance of KAS in timing of event. > > Try again Ramesh, I have full confidence that u can just look at the WS and tell Gopal about his job and issues faced there in and more expense than income. > > Other list members can also attempt the same who are more experienced with KAS. > l > Cheers !!! > Ash > > ramesh mishra wrote: > My Dear Ash, Namaskar, > Sorry for overlooking the relationship between > lagnalord and 9th lord.Before checking the chart I was > checking that relationship but somehow missed it.Then > I checked up in navamsa. Yes Sir, you are right both > the lords are in karak sthaan thus nullifying the > delay.and marriage is timely. > Whereas expenditure should be less than his income as > per SAV points in 11th and 12 house.Points in 12th > house is less than that of 11th house His 12th house > points and 10th house points are same and 11th house > point is 32 which is more than that of 10th and > 11th(30 points each).His DBCE from lagna is also in > increasing order but this is not for > expenditure.However chart is not before me so at > present i can't see the planets contribution for 11th > and 12th house from WS.Let you know next day. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > --- ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > Very good that atleast you have first begun to check > the authenticity > of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins > difference. > Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had > asked me to be > thorough and make full effort to first make sure of > birth time before > venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very > noble science > and its not a joke. > I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check > some events. > Yes, you found that something was amiss here. > > You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that > 9th lord has > gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak > sthan. So that > might play some part in reducing delay. > > Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The > antra before that > in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power > and is LoE. > > The birth time is in ball park i feel however there > might be slight > difference in time. > > I do not know when this marriage was fixed either. > Sometimes there > can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat > that might case > delays. > > Here if Gopal can give more details on when the > marriage was fixed > and we know when it was performed. In that case > things will get > sorted out. > > Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp > than income. Are > u able to see that in the WS? > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , > ramesh mishra > wrote: > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, > > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo > navamsa.KAY is > 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness > of the chart. > Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its > authenticity. However > marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. > Rahu is SD to Nk > of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. > > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of > B. It occupies > house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself > LoB also. In > navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th > lord from House > 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual > marriage was > performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal > according to > Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be > checked. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins > conceived in Jan > 2005 > > or Jan 2006? > > > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and > cast your chart > > using KAY. > > > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not > use Prati antar > > Dasha. > > > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready > reference so > > that members attempting your chart, their analysis > using KAS you > can > > understand. > > > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , > " GOPAL " > > wrote: > > > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in > mid jan 2006. > > > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most > but with the > > number > > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than > income. Expenses > > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing > which is > > causing > > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with > regard to job > change? > > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with > regard to job > despite > > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with > regard to > > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house > and the sarva > > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily > tell u about the > > > > reason for job. > > > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a > special law that > > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation > to the group. > > > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception > in about dec > > 2004 > > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might > have had twins > > in > > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th > house. > > > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage > might have been in > > > Moon > > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months > difference. This > > gentleman > > > is > > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change > can reflect > > large > > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying > the chart but > > > just > > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career > etc I am sure > > > anyone > > > > who studies this chart and want to practice > w.r.t career, > > finances > > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems > in Guru antra > > and > > > > quite possible u might have faced some > challenges w.r.t > > > debt/higher > > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to > income in Rahu > > antra > > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied > closely. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , > " GOPAL " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last > 3 years or so. > > > > Severe > > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good > otherwise, Can > > anyone > > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since > then. > > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Dear Ramesh, Gopal and List Members, Well done. You have found out the issues. Ju current antra has less power in 6th house and 11th vs 12th comparision. 12th house points of Ju in WS is more than 11th points. So its quiet clear. Things like Ju being in 10th house with 4 bindus and in 32 bindus house means more than 28 can't blindly mean that Ju antra will be good. Such things can be misleading. Yes say if lagna was Libra then that might become an exception. Here Ju would become LoD for 6th and LoE for 10th or Say if Capricorn was the lagna in that case Ju might become LoE for 10th so it might be good for authority (10th house) and that time we must see power of 6th etc etc etc. Another point you have given clearly too. Let study since start of Gopals career how this trend has been as Gopal has clearly said that he never had any savings despite good income. He started his career in 2000 before that it was more education geared. That might be Venus antra. In Venus antra 12th poitns are more than 11th in WS with 11th house showing 11. So more expenses than income. Next came Sun antra. Sun has 21 points in 11th and 14 in 12th. So here some savings but Sun antra is small only 4 months. Next came Moon in Mars AD. Moon has 14 points in 11th vs 19 points in 12th. So more expenses than income again. So no savings or some savings that were there in Sun antra were spent in Moon antra. After that Came Rahu. Rahu is SD to Venus. Venus again has 11 points in 11th house and 16 points in 12th. AGain its showing more expenses than income. This is in Rahu MD. Now Gopal is in Guru antra in Rahu MD. Guru has 18 points in 11th and 20 points in 12th at the same time it has 9 points in 6th house and its SD to sun who is in 2nd house with 4 bindus so it will also give worries. MF of Jupiter is also 0.5 as its in sign of enemy. All the points in 12th house (of pleasures or as we call it Moksh) are good. All points of 7th, 4th (except for Sa) are all good. Most of the power of power of planets in WS are good. DBCE pooints are in ascending order so Gopal if working cannot be happy with just an ordinary post. He needs more space or a post wherein he can direct how work is done like a high post in a company or CEO or he will eventually do his own business. Also here more expense as compared to expense is there so that might be the driving factor too. Let us see how things pan out for Gopal in the future. In Mars and Moon antra more worries or say less authorty type of jobs will be experienced. Ketu is also SD to Mars so similar experience in KEtu too. Other facts about intellegence etc are correct. Gopal has more sectors of Mars and Mercury i.e. lagna , sun and moon in navamsa, drekkhana and trishansa. He might be daring and will take risks. Good attempt and congratz Ramesh, on your finding the root cause of such things. If one follows what is given in standard texts on Ashtakvarg then he might be under impression that Jupiter being in 10th house in 32 bindu house with netural power might be good for career in all cases which as per this example is not accurate. Infact the only antra that will cause problems and lack of happiness of 6th house is Guru. Cheers !!! Ash , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar, > I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in my hand.As is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and Moon is 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is 27:27:36:30 in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and Moon the native is ready to take risk in life. > No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native lacks sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is in Me divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second house. Lesson 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always gives some obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and he occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24 points in 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of Sat is more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of income. > Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is very weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th (20) than that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes up to Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu is SD to Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th house than that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be there for native. > Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan karak and 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies dhansthaan.Similarly Jup is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job and he too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This Jup and 6th lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak and bhagya karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ). > I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit in this chart. > Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house is less than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a good income compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th than the 36 in 11th house. In WS also Jup in 10th house has 17 points than the 18 in 11th house.Though it is almost equal. > Sir please check up my readings so far whether I am inline or some improvemetns is needed. I will advance further for occupation only after listening my approach from you. As per this chart Native should do a business of Saturn related matters. Awaiting for your guidance.Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > GOPAL <gopal_ks wrote: > More data for further analysis > > 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income > 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000 but the actual > marriage took place on june-11-2001; > 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998 > 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003 > 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from june-1998 to nov- > -2000. > 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst(programmer) and > working since then nov2000 to now. > 7) relocated within the company to texas from wisconsin on april- 30- > 2005. > 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and expenses, but > feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect. > > Thanks > Gopal > > , Ash <ashsam73@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the current antra > Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running. > > > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra. If 12th is > more than 11th then it means that the native is facing more expenses > than income. > > > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats happening on the > job front. > > > > So if the native is facing problems in job then check the job > related houses and the power of the planets in WS for that antra. > Check the next antra to see what will happen going forward and the > points of planets w.r.t. job related house. > > > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra that Gopal is > in? > > > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of that? > > > > Check the natives brilliance of the native ? > > > > Check the career giving planets and ask the native in which field > is he in? Say the career givign planets are Venus, Venus, Venus > i.e .from 10th lords from lagna sun and moon and they are in navamsa > of Venus. If such a person is put in a mechanical enginnering shop > floor he might be happy and he might eventually change his field to > somewhere where he can use his artistic knowledge and flourish. > > > > Get an idea on the nature and capability of the person. > > > > SAV is for overall result, but WS is giving us power in specific > antras. > > > > So if 11th vs 12th points in SAV in 11th is more than 12th then > the person will have savings in his life, but what is happening in a > particular antra we can see from WS. > > > > These are somethings I can check off the top of my head. Yes, I > am not dwleving into transit of Sa and Ju planets etc but u can get > into that slowly. > > > > So ask question but first make sure u get full idea of the native > and his nature and the chart will reflect that. > > > > Again go through the lessons closely if u are stuck up. > > > > Try again using the above hints. But in general Gopal asked, Ju > is in 10th house with 4 bindus and its in a house with 32 bindus then > how come he is facing issues in job or unable to find a better job? > > > > I beleive the understanding of Gopal is that if a planet is in > 10th house and with netural bindus and if its in a house with 32 > points must mean that it should be good for job and career but facts > are not reflecting the same? > > > > This is also what many people having limited knowledge of > Ashtakvarg which is found in books might also have. So here u can > clear their doubts and give concrete results based on firm grounds on > the importance of KAS in timing of event. > > > > Try again Ramesh, I have full confidence that u can just look at > the WS and tell Gopal about his job and issues faced there in and > more expense than income. > > > > Other list members can also attempt the same who are more > experienced with KAS. > > l > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > My Dear Ash, Namaskar, > > Sorry for overlooking the relationship between > > lagnalord and 9th lord.Before checking the chart I was > > checking that relationship but somehow missed it.Then > > I checked up in navamsa. Yes Sir, you are right both > > the lords are in karak sthaan thus nullifying the > > delay.and marriage is timely. > > Whereas expenditure should be less than his income as > > per SAV points in 11th and 12 house.Points in 12th > > house is less than that of 11th house His 12th house > > points and 10th house points are same and 11th house > > point is 32 which is more than that of 10th and > > 11th(30 points each).His DBCE from lagna is also in > > increasing order but this is not for > > expenditure.However chart is not before me so at > > present i can't see the planets contribution for 11th > > and 12th house from WS.Let you know next day. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > --- ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > Very good that atleast you have first begun to check > > the authenticity > > of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins > > difference. > > Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had > > asked me to be > > thorough and make full effort to first make sure of > > birth time before > > venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very > > noble science > > and its not a joke. > > I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check > > some events. > > Yes, you found that something was amiss here. > > > > You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that > > 9th lord has > > gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak > > sthan. So that > > might play some part in reducing delay. > > > > Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The > > antra before that > > in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power > > and is LoE. > > > > The birth time is in ball park i feel however there > > might be slight > > difference in time. > > > > I do not know when this marriage was fixed either. > > Sometimes there > > can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat > > that might case > > delays. > > > > Here if Gopal can give more details on when the > > marriage was fixed > > and we know when it was performed. In that case > > things will get > > sorted out. > > > > Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp > > than income. Are > > u able to see that in the WS? > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , > > ramesh mishra > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, > > > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo > > navamsa.KAY is > > 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness > > of the chart. > > Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its > > authenticity. However > > marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. > > Rahu is SD to Nk > > of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. > > > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of > > B. It occupies > > house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself > > LoB also. In > > navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th > > lord from House > > 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual > > marriage was > > performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal > > according to > > Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be > > checked. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins > > conceived in Jan > > 2005 > > > or Jan 2006? > > > > > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and > > cast your chart > > > using KAY. > > > > > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not > > use Prati antar > > > Dasha. > > > > > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready > > reference so > > > that members attempting your chart, their analysis > > using KAS you > > can > > > understand. > > > > > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , > > " GOPAL " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in > > mid jan 2006. > > > > > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most > > but with the > > > number > > > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than > > income. Expenses > > > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing > > which is > > > causing > > > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with > > regard to job > > change? > > > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with > > regard to job > > despite > > > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with > > regard to > > > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house > > and the sarva > > > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > " ashsam73 " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily > > tell u about the > > > > > reason for job. > > > > > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a > > special law that > > > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation > > to the group. > > > > > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception > > in about dec > > > 2004 > > > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might > > have had twins > > > in > > > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th > > house. > > > > > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage > > might have been in > > > > Moon > > > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months > > difference. This > > > gentleman > > > > is > > > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change > > can reflect > > > large > > > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying > > the chart but > > > > just > > > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career > > etc I am sure > > > > anyone > > > > > who studies this chart and want to practice > > w.r.t career, > > > finances > > > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems > > in Guru antra > > > and > > > > > quite possible u might have faced some > > challenges w.r.t > > > > debt/higher > > > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to > > income in Rahu > > > antra > > > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied > > closely. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , > > " GOPAL " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last > > 3 years or so. > > > > > Severe > > > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good > > otherwise, Can > > > anyone > > > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since > > then. > > > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Dear Ash, Gopal and list members, Namaskar, Thanks Ash for encouragements. It is you only who teach us the system. By virtue of your good guidance I think I can pick up and become your followers. Thanks once again.Let me proceed further for future symtomps.Native is going through Sat antara from 05 Jun 2006 till 10 Apr 2009.Sat is FK for 11th and 12th house and situated in the second from 11th house.What circumstances may take place.Sat is LoD for 9th house of luck and 10th house of authority respectively. He is LoE for 1st house and 2nd house.Sat also aignifies third and seventh house by its placement in 12th house.It means Sat signifies houses 1st,2nd,3rd,7th,9th and 10th..Sat is very powerful in all these houses No doubt native may earn but side by side his expenditure will go more than his income. Reason being Sat is having more point in 12th house of expenses than that of 11th house of income.Secondly Sat is weak in 4th house of income. At present Sat is transiting in Karka where he has only three points and Jup is transiting in Libra who also has 3 points.Therefore Jup and Sat total amounts come to only six which is less than eight.Since total transit points of these two planets are less, they may give the difficulties , worries and the result may be unfavourable. Sat moves in Leo on 19 Oct 06 and Jup remains in Libra the total points during this transition are seven still less than eight But on 23 Oct 06 Jup moves into Scorpio then their combine point raise to total nine which is a favourable oppotunity for the native Therefore whenever transit of Sat and Jup brings the total more than eight point native may get the favourable result in respect of his income. Will continue. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra. ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Ramesh, Gopal and List Members, Well done. You have found out the issues. Ju current antra has less power in 6th house and 11th vs 12th comparision. 12th house points of Ju in WS is more than 11th points. So its quiet clear. Things like Ju being in 10th house with 4 bindus and in 32 bindus house means more than 28 can't blindly mean that Ju antra will be good. Such things can be misleading. Yes say if lagna was Libra then that might become an exception. Here Ju would become LoD for 6th and LoE for 10th or Say if Capricorn was the lagna in that case Ju might become LoE for 10th so it might be good for authority (10th house) and that time we must see power of 6th etc etc etc. Another point you have given clearly too. Let study since start of Gopals career how this trend has been as Gopal has clearly said that he never had any savings despite good income. He started his career in 2000 before that it was more education geared. That might be Venus antra. In Venus antra 12th poitns are more than 11th in WS with 11th house showing 11. So more expenses than income. Next came Sun antra. Sun has 21 points in 11th and 14 in 12th. So here some savings but Sun antra is small only 4 months. Next came Moon in Mars AD. Moon has 14 points in 11th vs 19 points in 12th. So more expenses than income again. So no savings or some savings that were there in Sun antra were spent in Moon antra. After that Came Rahu. Rahu is SD to Venus. Venus again has 11 points in 11th house and 16 points in 12th. AGain its showing more expenses than income. This is in Rahu MD. Now Gopal is in Guru antra in Rahu MD. Guru has 18 points in 11th and 20 points in 12th at the same time it has 9 points in 6th house and its SD to sun who is in 2nd house with 4 bindus so it will also give worries. MF of Jupiter is also 0.5 as its in sign of enemy. All the points in 12th house (of pleasures or as we call it Moksh) are good. All points of 7th, 4th (except for Sa) are all good. Most of the power of power of planets in WS are good. DBCE pooints are in ascending order so Gopal if working cannot be happy with just an ordinary post. He needs more space or a post wherein he can direct how work is done like a high post in a company or CEO or he will eventually do his own business. Also here more expense as compared to expense is there so that might be the driving factor too. Let us see how things pan out for Gopal in the future. In Mars and Moon antra more worries or say less authorty type of jobs will be experienced. Ketu is also SD to Mars so similar experience in KEtu too. Other facts about intellegence etc are correct. Gopal has more sectors of Mars and Mercury i.e. lagna , sun and moon in navamsa, drekkhana and trishansa. He might be daring and will take risks. Good attempt and congratz Ramesh, on your finding the root cause of such things. If one follows what is given in standard texts on Ashtakvarg then he might be under impression that Jupiter being in 10th house in 32 bindu house with netural power might be good for career in all cases which as per this example is not accurate. Infact the only antra that will cause problems and lack of happiness of 6th house is Guru. Cheers !!! Ash , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar, > I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in my hand.As is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and Moon is 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is 27:27:36:30 in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and Moon the native is ready to take risk in life. > No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native lacks sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is in Me divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second house. Lesson 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always gives some obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and he occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24 points in 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of Sat is more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of income. > Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is very weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th (20) than that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes up to Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu is SD to Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th house than that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be there for native. > Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan karak and 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies dhansthaan.Similarly Jup is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job and he too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This Jup and 6th lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak and bhagya karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ). > I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit in this chart. > Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house is less than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a good income compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th than the 36 in 11th house. In WS also Jup in 10th house has 17 points than the 18 in 11th house.Though it is almost equal. > Sir please check up my readings so far whether I am inline or some improvemetns is needed. I will advance further for occupation only after listening my approach from you. As per this chart Native should do a business of Saturn related matters. Awaiting for your guidance.Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > GOPAL <gopal_ks wrote: > More data for further analysis > > 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income > 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000 but the actual > marriage took place on june-11-2001; > 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998 > 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003 > 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from june-1998 to nov- > -2000. > 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst(programmer) and > working since then nov2000 to now. > 7) relocated within the company to texas from wisconsin on april- 30- > 2005. > 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and expenses, but > feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect. > > Thanks > Gopal > > , Ash <ashsam73@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the current antra > Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running. > > > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra. If 12th is > more than 11th then it means that the native is facing more expenses > than income. > > > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats happening on the > job front. > > > > So if the native is facing problems in job then check the job > related houses and the power of the planets in WS for that antra. > Check the next antra to see what will happen going forward and the > points of planets w.r.t. job related house. > > > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra that Gopal is > in? > > > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of that? > > > > Check the natives brilliance of the native ? > > > > Check the career giving planets and ask the native in which field > is he in? Say the career givign planets are Venus, Venus, Venus > i.e .from 10th lords from lagna sun and moon and they are in navamsa > of Venus. If such a person is put in a mechanical enginnering shop > floor he might be happy and he might eventually change his field to > somewhere where he can use his artistic knowledge and flourish. > > > > Get an idea on the nature and capability of the person. > > > > SAV is for overall result, but WS is giving us power in specific > antras. > > > > So if 11th vs 12th points in SAV in 11th is more than 12th then > the person will have savings in his life, but what is happening in a > particular antra we can see from WS. > > > > These are somethings I can check off the top of my head. Yes, I > am not dwleving into transit of Sa and Ju planets etc but u can get > into that slowly. > > > > So ask question but first make sure u get full idea of the native > and his nature and the chart will reflect that. > > > > Again go through the lessons closely if u are stuck up. > > > > Try again using the above hints. But in general Gopal asked, Ju > is in 10th house with 4 bindus and its in a house with 32 bindus then > how come he is facing issues in job or unable to find a better job? > > > > I beleive the understanding of Gopal is that if a planet is in > 10th house and with netural bindus and if its in a house with 32 > points must mean that it should be good for job and career but facts > are not reflecting the same? > > > > This is also what many people having limited knowledge of > Ashtakvarg which is found in books might also have. So here u can > clear their doubts and give concrete results based on firm grounds on > the importance of KAS in timing of event. > > > > Try again Ramesh, I have full confidence that u can just look at > the WS and tell Gopal about his job and issues faced there in and > more expense than income. > > > > Other list members can also attempt the same who are more > experienced with KAS. > > l > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > My Dear Ash, Namaskar, > > Sorry for overlooking the relationship between > > lagnalord and 9th lord.Before checking the chart I was > > checking that relationship but somehow missed it.Then > > I checked up in navamsa. Yes Sir, you are right both > > the lords are in karak sthaan thus nullifying the > > delay.and marriage is timely. > > Whereas expenditure should be less than his income as > > per SAV points in 11th and 12 house.Points in 12th > > house is less than that of 11th house His 12th house > > points and 10th house points are same and 11th house > > point is 32 which is more than that of 10th and > > 11th(30 points each).His DBCE from lagna is also in > > increasing order but this is not for > > expenditure.However chart is not before me so at > > present i can't see the planets contribution for 11th > > and 12th house from WS.Let you know next day. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > --- ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > Very good that atleast you have first begun to check > > the authenticity > > of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins > > difference. > > Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had > > asked me to be > > thorough and make full effort to first make sure of > > birth time before > > venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very > > noble science > > and its not a joke. > > I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check > > some events. > > Yes, you found that something was amiss here. > > > > You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that > > 9th lord has > > gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak > > sthan. So that > > might play some part in reducing delay. > > > > Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The > > antra before that > > in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power > > and is LoE. > > > > The birth time is in ball park i feel however there > > might be slight > > difference in time. > > > > I do not know when this marriage was fixed either. > > Sometimes there > > can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat > > that might case > > delays. > > > > Here if Gopal can give more details on when the > > marriage was fixed > > and we know when it was performed. In that case > > things will get > > sorted out. > > > > Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp > > than income. Are > > u able to see that in the WS? > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , > > ramesh mishra > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, > > > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo > > navamsa.KAY is > > 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness > > of the chart. > > Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its > > authenticity. However > > marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. > > Rahu is SD to Nk > > of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. > > > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of > > B. It occupies > > house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself > > LoB also. In > > navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th > > lord from House > > 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual > > marriage was > > performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal > > according to > > Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be > > checked. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins > > conceived in Jan > > 2005 > > > or Jan 2006? > > > > > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and > > cast your chart > > > using KAY. > > > > > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not > > use Prati antar > > > Dasha. > > > > > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready > > reference so > > > that members attempting your chart, their analysis > > using KAS you > > can > > > understand. > > > > > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , > > " GOPAL " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in > > mid jan 2006. > > > > > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most > > but with the > > > number > > > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than > > income. Expenses > > > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing > > which is > > > causing > > > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with > > regard to job > > change? > > > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with > > regard to job > > despite > > > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with > > regard to > > > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house > > and the sarva > > > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > " ashsam73 " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily > > tell u about the > > > > > reason for job. > > > > > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a > > special law that > > > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation > > to the group. > > > > > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception > > in about dec > > > 2004 > > > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might > > have had twins > > > in > > > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th > > house. > > > > > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage > > might have been in > > > > Moon > > > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months > > difference. This > > > gentleman > > > > is > > > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change > > can reflect > > > large > > > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying > > the chart but > > > > just > > > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career > > etc I am sure > > > > anyone > > > > > who studies this chart and want to practice > > w.r.t career, > > > finances > > > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems > > in Guru antra > > > and > > > > > quite possible u might have faced some > > challenges w.r.t > > > > debt/higher > > > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to > > income in Rahu > > > antra > > > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied > > closely. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , > > " GOPAL " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last > > 3 years or so. > > > > > Severe > > > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good > > otherwise, Can > > > anyone > > > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since > > then. > > > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Thanks everyone for their contribution. I feel excited about KAS techniques and working on learning it. Thanks, Gopal , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Ash, Gopal and list members, Namaskar, > Thanks Ash for encouragements. It is you only who teach us the system. By virtue of your good guidance I think I can pick up and become your followers. Thanks once again.Let me proceed further for future symtomps.Native is going through Sat antara from 05 Jun 2006 till 10 Apr 2009.Sat is FK for 11th and 12th house and situated in the second from 11th house.What circumstances may take place.Sat is LoD for 9th house of luck and 10th house of authority respectively. He is LoE for 1st house and 2nd house.Sat also aignifies third and seventh house by its placement in 12th house.It means Sat signifies houses 1st,2nd,3rd,7th,9th and 10th..Sat is very powerful in all these houses No doubt native may earn but side by side his expenditure will go more than his income. Reason being Sat is having more point in 12th house of expenses than that of 11th house of income.Secondly Sat is weak in 4th house of income. > At present Sat is transiting in Karka where he has only three points and Jup is transiting in Libra who also has 3 points.Therefore Jup and Sat total amounts come to only six which is less than eight.Since total transit points of these two planets are less, they may give the difficulties , worries and the result may be unfavourable. Sat moves in Leo on 19 Oct 06 and Jup remains in Libra the total points during this transition are seven still less than eight But on 23 Oct 06 Jup moves into Scorpio then their combine point raise to total nine which is a favourable oppotunity for the native Therefore whenever transit of Sat and Jup brings the total more than eight point native may get the favourable result in respect of his income. Will continue. Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra. > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Ramesh, Gopal and List Members, > Well done. You have found out the issues. > > Ju current antra has less power in 6th house and 11th vs 12th > comparision. 12th house points of Ju in WS is more than 11th > points. So its quiet clear. > > Things like Ju being in 10th house with 4 bindus and in 32 bindus > house means more than 28 can't blindly mean that Ju antra will be > good. Such things can be misleading. Yes say if lagna was Libra > then that might become an exception. Here Ju would become LoD for > 6th and LoE for 10th or Say if Capricorn was the lagna in that case > Ju might become LoE for 10th so it might be good for authority (10th > house) and that time we must see power of 6th etc etc etc. > > Another point you have given clearly too. > > Let study since start of Gopals career how this trend has been as > Gopal has clearly said that he never had any savings despite good > income. > > He started his career in 2000 before that it was more education > geared. That might be Venus antra. In Venus antra 12th poitns are > more than 11th in WS with 11th house showing 11. So more expenses > than income. > > Next came Sun antra. Sun has 21 points in 11th and 14 in 12th. So > here some savings but Sun antra is small only 4 months. > > Next came Moon in Mars AD. Moon has 14 points in 11th vs 19 points > in 12th. So more expenses than income again. So no savings or some > savings that were there in Sun antra were spent in Moon antra. > > After that Came Rahu. Rahu is SD to Venus. Venus again has 11 > points in 11th house and 16 points in 12th. AGain its showing more > expenses than income. This is in Rahu MD. > > Now Gopal is in Guru antra in Rahu MD. Guru has 18 points in 11th > and 20 points in 12th at the same time it has 9 points in 6th house > and its SD to sun who is in 2nd house with 4 bindus so it will also > give worries. MF of Jupiter is also 0.5 as its in sign of enemy. > > All the points in 12th house (of pleasures or as we call it Moksh) > are good. All points of 7th, 4th (except for Sa) are all good. > Most of the power of power of planets in WS are good. > > DBCE pooints are in ascending order so Gopal if working cannot be > happy with just an ordinary post. He needs more space or a post > wherein he can direct how work is done like a high post in a company > or CEO or he will eventually do his own business. > > Also here more expense as compared to expense is there so that might > be the driving factor too. > > Let us see how things pan out for Gopal in the future. > > In Mars and Moon antra more worries or say less authorty type of > jobs will be experienced. Ketu is also SD to Mars so similar > experience in KEtu too. > > Other facts about intellegence etc are correct. Gopal has more > sectors of Mars and Mercury i.e. lagna , sun and moon in navamsa, > drekkhana and trishansa. He might be daring and will take risks. > > Good attempt and congratz Ramesh, on your finding the root cause of > such things. If one follows what is given in standard texts on > Ashtakvarg then he might be under impression that Jupiter being in > 10th house in 32 bindu house with netural power might be good for > career in all cases which as per this example is not accurate. > Infact the only antra that will cause problems and lack of happiness > of 6th house is Guru. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar, > > I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in my hand.As > is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and Moon is > 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is 27:27:36:30 > in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and Moon the > native is ready to take risk in life. > > No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native lacks > sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is in Me > divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second house. Lesson > 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always gives some > obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and he > occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24 points in > 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of Sat is > more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of income. > > Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is very > weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th (20) than > that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes up to > Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu is SD to > Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th house than > that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be there for > native. > > Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan karak and > 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies dhansthaan.Similarly Jup > is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job and he > too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This Jup and 6th > lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak and bhagya > karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ). > > I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit in this > chart. > > Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house is less > than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a good income > compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th than the 36 > in 11th house. In WS also Jup in 10th house has 17 points than the > 18 in 11th house.Though it is almost equal. > > Sir please check up my readings so far whether I am inline or > some improvemetns is needed. I will advance further for occupation > only after listening my approach from you. As per this chart Native > should do a business of Saturn related matters. Awaiting for your > guidance.Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > GOPAL <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > More data for further analysis > > > > 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income > > 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000 but the > actual > > marriage took place on june-11-2001; > > 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998 > > 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003 > > 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from june-1998 to > nov- > > -2000. > > 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst(programmer) and > > working since then nov2000 to now. > > 7) relocated within the company to texas from wisconsin on april- > 30- > > 2005. > > 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and expenses, but > > feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect. > > > > Thanks > > Gopal > > > > , Ash <ashsam73@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the current > antra > > Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running. > > > > > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra. If 12th > is > > more than 11th then it means that the native is facing more > expenses > > than income. > > > > > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats happening on > the > > job front. > > > > > > So if the native is facing problems in job then check the job > > related houses and the power of the planets in WS for that antra. > > Check the next antra to see what will happen going forward and the > > points of planets w.r.t. job related house. > > > > > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra that Gopal > is > > in? > > > > > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of that? > > > > > > Check the natives brilliance of the native ? > > > > > > Check the career giving planets and ask the native in which > field > > is he in? Say the career givign planets are Venus, Venus, Venus > > i.e .from 10th lords from lagna sun and moon and they are in > navamsa > > of Venus. If such a person is put in a mechanical enginnering > shop > > floor he might be happy and he might eventually change his field > to > > somewhere where he can use his artistic knowledge and flourish. > > > > > > Get an idea on the nature and capability of the person. > > > > > > SAV is for overall result, but WS is giving us power in > specific > > antras. > > > > > > So if 11th vs 12th points in SAV in 11th is more than 12th > then > > the person will have savings in his life, but what is happening in > a > > particular antra we can see from WS. > > > > > > These are somethings I can check off the top of my head. Yes, > I > > am not dwleving into transit of Sa and Ju planets etc but u can > get > > into that slowly. > > > > > > So ask question but first make sure u get full idea of the > native > > and his nature and the chart will reflect that. > > > > > > Again go through the lessons closely if u are stuck up. > > > > > > Try again using the above hints. But in general Gopal asked, > Ju > > is in 10th house with 4 bindus and its in a house with 32 bindus > then > > how come he is facing issues in job or unable to find a better > job? > > > > > > I beleive the understanding of Gopal is that if a planet is in > > 10th house and with netural bindus and if its in a house with 32 > > points must mean that it should be good for job and career but > facts > > are not reflecting the same? > > > > > > This is also what many people having limited knowledge of > > Ashtakvarg which is found in books might also have. So here u can > > clear their doubts and give concrete results based on firm grounds > on > > the importance of KAS in timing of event. > > > > > > Try again Ramesh, I have full confidence that u can just look > at > > the WS and tell Gopal about his job and issues faced there in and > > more expense than income. > > > > > > Other list members can also attempt the same who are more > > experienced with KAS. > > > l > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > My Dear Ash, Namaskar, > > > Sorry for overlooking the relationship between > > > lagnalord and 9th lord.Before checking the chart I was > > > checking that relationship but somehow missed it.Then > > > I checked up in navamsa. Yes Sir, you are right both > > > the lords are in karak sthaan thus nullifying the > > > delay.and marriage is timely. > > > Whereas expenditure should be less than his income as > > > per SAV points in 11th and 12 house.Points in 12th > > > house is less than that of 11th house His 12th house > > > points and 10th house points are same and 11th house > > > point is 32 which is more than that of 10th and > > > 11th(30 points each).His DBCE from lagna is also in > > > increasing order but this is not for > > > expenditure.However chart is not before me so at > > > present i can't see the planets contribution for 11th > > > and 12th house from WS.Let you know next day. > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > --- ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > Very good that atleast you have first begun to check > > > the authenticity > > > of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins > > > difference. > > > Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had > > > asked me to be > > > thorough and make full effort to first make sure of > > > birth time before > > > venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very > > > noble science > > > and its not a joke. > > > I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check > > > some events. > > > Yes, you found that something was amiss here. > > > > > > You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that > > > 9th lord has > > > gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak > > > sthan. So that > > > might play some part in reducing delay. > > > > > > Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The > > > antra before that > > > in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power > > > and is LoE. > > > > > > The birth time is in ball park i feel however there > > > might be slight > > > difference in time. > > > > > > I do not know when this marriage was fixed either. > > > Sometimes there > > > can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat > > > that might case > > > delays. > > > > > > Here if Gopal can give more details on when the > > > marriage was fixed > > > and we know when it was performed. In that case > > > things will get > > > sorted out. > > > > > > Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp > > > than income. Are > > > u able to see that in the WS? > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , > > > ramesh mishra > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, > > > > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo > > > navamsa.KAY is > > > 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness > > > of the chart. > > > Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its > > > authenticity. However > > > marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. > > > Rahu is SD to Nk > > > of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. > > > > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of > > > B. It occupies > > > house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself > > > LoB also. In > > > navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th > > > lord from House > > > 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual > > > marriage was > > > performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal > > > according to > > > Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be > > > checked. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins > > > conceived in Jan > > > 2005 > > > > or Jan 2006? > > > > > > > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and > > > cast your chart > > > > using KAY. > > > > > > > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not > > > use Prati antar > > > > Dasha. > > > > > > > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready > > > reference so > > > > that members attempting your chart, their analysis > > > using KAS you > > > can > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , > > > " GOPAL " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > > > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > > > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in > > > mid jan 2006. > > > > > > > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most > > > but with the > > > > number > > > > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than > > > income. Expenses > > > > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing > > > which is > > > > causing > > > > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > > > > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with > > > regard to job > > > change? > > > > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with > > > regard to job > > > despite > > > > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with > > > regard to > > > > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house > > > and the sarva > > > > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily > > > tell u about the > > > > > > reason for job. > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a > > > special law that > > > > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation > > > to the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception > > > in about dec > > > > 2004 > > > > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might > > > have had twins > > > > in > > > > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage > > > might have been in > > > > > Moon > > > > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months > > > difference. This > > > > gentleman > > > > > is > > > > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change > > > can reflect > > > > large > > > > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying > > > the chart but > > > > > just > > > > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career > > > etc I am sure > > > > > anyone > > > > > > who studies this chart and want to practice > > > w.r.t career, > > > > finances > > > > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems > > > in Guru antra > > > > and > > > > > > quite possible u might have faced some > > > challenges w.r.t > > > > > debt/higher > > > > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to > > > income in Rahu > > > > antra > > > > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied > > > closely. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > " GOPAL " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last > > > 3 years or so. > > > > > > Severe > > > > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good > > > otherwise, Can > > > > anyone > > > > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since > > > then. > > > > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 I've just started learning this system. So pardon my ignorance. Benefic planets are ones with more than 4 bindus per KAS Just like anyone else, checked out mine first. Found out that not a single planent with more than 4 bindus in my chart. With not a single benefic planet, how could I've achieved fairly good life at a young age (education, decent job, marriage, kids, house etc., within age 30); Thanks, Gopal , " GOPAL " <gopal_ks wrote: > > Thanks everyone for their contribution. I feel excited about KAS > techniques and working on learning it. > > Thanks, > Gopal > > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, Gopal and list members, Namaskar, > > Thanks Ash for encouragements. It is you only who teach us the > system. By virtue of your good guidance I think I can pick up and > become your followers. Thanks once again.Let me proceed further for > future symtomps.Native is going through Sat antara from 05 Jun 2006 > till 10 Apr 2009.Sat is FK for 11th and 12th house and situated in > the second from 11th house.What circumstances may take place.Sat is > LoD for 9th house of luck and 10th house of authority respectively. > He is LoE for 1st house and 2nd house.Sat also aignifies third and > seventh house by its placement in 12th house.It means Sat signifies > houses 1st,2nd,3rd,7th,9th and 10th..Sat is very powerful in all > these houses No doubt native may earn but side by side his > expenditure will go more than his income. Reason being Sat is having > more point in 12th house of expenses than that of 11th house of > income.Secondly Sat is weak in 4th house of income. > > At present Sat is transiting in Karka where he has only three > points and Jup is transiting in Libra who also has 3 > points.Therefore Jup and Sat total amounts come to only six which is > less than eight.Since total transit points of these two planets are > less, they may give the difficulties , worries and the result may > be unfavourable. Sat moves in Leo on 19 Oct 06 and Jup remains in > Libra the total points during this transition are seven still less > than eight But on 23 Oct 06 Jup moves into Scorpio then their > combine point raise to total nine which is a favourable oppotunity > for the native Therefore whenever transit of Sat and Jup brings the > total more than eight point native may get the favourable result in > respect of his income. Will continue. Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra. > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, Gopal and List Members, > > Well done. You have found out the issues. > > > > Ju current antra has less power in 6th house and 11th vs 12th > > comparision. 12th house points of Ju in WS is more than 11th > > points. So its quiet clear. > > > > Things like Ju being in 10th house with 4 bindus and in 32 bindus > > house means more than 28 can't blindly mean that Ju antra will be > > good. Such things can be misleading. Yes say if lagna was Libra > > then that might become an exception. Here Ju would become LoD for > > 6th and LoE for 10th or Say if Capricorn was the lagna in that > case > > Ju might become LoE for 10th so it might be good for authority > (10th > > house) and that time we must see power of 6th etc etc etc. > > > > Another point you have given clearly too. > > > > Let study since start of Gopals career how this trend has been as > > Gopal has clearly said that he never had any savings despite good > > income. > > > > He started his career in 2000 before that it was more education > > geared. That might be Venus antra. In Venus antra 12th poitns > are > > more than 11th in WS with 11th house showing 11. So more expenses > > than income. > > > > Next came Sun antra. Sun has 21 points in 11th and 14 in 12th. > So > > here some savings but Sun antra is small only 4 months. > > > > Next came Moon in Mars AD. Moon has 14 points in 11th vs 19 > points > > in 12th. So more expenses than income again. So no savings or > some > > savings that were there in Sun antra were spent in Moon antra. > > > > After that Came Rahu. Rahu is SD to Venus. Venus again has 11 > > points in 11th house and 16 points in 12th. AGain its showing > more > > expenses than income. This is in Rahu MD. > > > > Now Gopal is in Guru antra in Rahu MD. Guru has 18 points in 11th > > and 20 points in 12th at the same time it has 9 points in 6th > house > > and its SD to sun who is in 2nd house with 4 bindus so it will > also > > give worries. MF of Jupiter is also 0.5 as its in sign of enemy. > > > > All the points in 12th house (of pleasures or as we call it Moksh) > > are good. All points of 7th, 4th (except for Sa) are all good. > > Most of the power of power of planets in WS are good. > > > > DBCE pooints are in ascending order so Gopal if working cannot be > > happy with just an ordinary post. He needs more space or a post > > wherein he can direct how work is done like a high post in a > company > > or CEO or he will eventually do his own business. > > > > Also here more expense as compared to expense is there so that > might > > be the driving factor too. > > > > Let us see how things pan out for Gopal in the future. > > > > In Mars and Moon antra more worries or say less authorty type of > > jobs will be experienced. Ketu is also SD to Mars so similar > > experience in KEtu too. > > > > Other facts about intellegence etc are correct. Gopal has more > > sectors of Mars and Mercury i.e. lagna , sun and moon in navamsa, > > drekkhana and trishansa. He might be daring and will take risks. > > > > Good attempt and congratz Ramesh, on your finding the root cause > of > > such things. If one follows what is given in standard texts on > > Ashtakvarg then he might be under impression that Jupiter being in > > 10th house in 32 bindu house with netural power might be good for > > career in all cases which as per this example is not accurate. > > Infact the only antra that will cause problems and lack of > happiness > > of 6th house is Guru. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar, > > > I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in my > hand.As > > is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and Moon is > > 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is > 27:27:36:30 > > in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and Moon > the > > native is ready to take risk in life. > > > No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native lacks > > sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is in Me > > divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second house. > Lesson > > 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always gives some > > obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and he > > occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24 points in > > 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of Sat is > > more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of income. > > > Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is very > > weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th (20) than > > that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes up to > > Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu is SD to > > Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th house than > > that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be there > for > > native. > > > Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan karak and > > 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies dhansthaan.Similarly > Jup > > is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job and he > > too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This Jup and > 6th > > lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak and > bhagya > > karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ). > > > I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit in this > > chart. > > > Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house is > less > > than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a good > income > > compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th than the > 36 > > in 11th house. In WS also Jup in 10th house has 17 points than the > > 18 in 11th house.Though it is almost equal. > > > Sir please check up my readings so far whether I am inline or > > some improvemetns is needed. I will advance further for occupation > > only after listening my approach from you. As per this chart > Native > > should do a business of Saturn related matters. Awaiting for your > > guidance.Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > GOPAL <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > More data for further analysis > > > > > > 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income > > > 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000 but the > > actual > > > marriage took place on june-11-2001; > > > 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998 > > > 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003 > > > 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from june-1998 > to > > nov- > > > -2000. > > > 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst(programmer) > and > > > working since then nov2000 to now. > > > 7) relocated within the company to texas from wisconsin on april- > > 30- > > > 2005. > > > 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and expenses, > but > > > feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Gopal > > > > > > , Ash <ashsam73@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the current > > antra > > > Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running. > > > > > > > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra. If 12th > > is > > > more than 11th then it means that the native is facing more > > expenses > > > than income. > > > > > > > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats happening on > > the > > > job front. > > > > > > > > So if the native is facing problems in job then check the > job > > > related houses and the power of the planets in WS for that > antra. > > > Check the next antra to see what will happen going forward and > the > > > points of planets w.r.t. job related house. > > > > > > > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra that > Gopal > > is > > > in? > > > > > > > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of that? > > > > > > > > Check the natives brilliance of the native ? > > > > > > > > Check the career giving planets and ask the native in which > > field > > > is he in? Say the career givign planets are Venus, Venus, Venus > > > i.e .from 10th lords from lagna sun and moon and they are in > > navamsa > > > of Venus. If such a person is put in a mechanical enginnering > > shop > > > floor he might be happy and he might eventually change his field > > to > > > somewhere where he can use his artistic knowledge and flourish. > > > > > > > > Get an idea on the nature and capability of the person. > > > > > > > > SAV is for overall result, but WS is giving us power in > > specific > > > antras. > > > > > > > > So if 11th vs 12th points in SAV in 11th is more than 12th > > then > > > the person will have savings in his life, but what is happening > in > > a > > > particular antra we can see from WS. > > > > > > > > These are somethings I can check off the top of my head. > Yes, > > I > > > am not dwleving into transit of Sa and Ju planets etc but u can > > get > > > into that slowly. > > > > > > > > So ask question but first make sure u get full idea of the > > native > > > and his nature and the chart will reflect that. > > > > > > > > Again go through the lessons closely if u are stuck up. > > > > > > > > Try again using the above hints. But in general Gopal > asked, > > Ju > > > is in 10th house with 4 bindus and its in a house with 32 bindus > > then > > > how come he is facing issues in job or unable to find a better > > job? > > > > > > > > I beleive the understanding of Gopal is that if a planet is > in > > > 10th house and with netural bindus and if its in a house with 32 > > > points must mean that it should be good for job and career but > > facts > > > are not reflecting the same? > > > > > > > > This is also what many people having limited knowledge of > > > Ashtakvarg which is found in books might also have. So here u > can > > > clear their doubts and give concrete results based on firm > grounds > > on > > > the importance of KAS in timing of event. > > > > > > > > Try again Ramesh, I have full confidence that u can just > look > > at > > > the WS and tell Gopal about his job and issues faced there in > and > > > more expense than income. > > > > > > > > Other list members can also attempt the same who are more > > > experienced with KAS. > > > > l > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > My Dear Ash, Namaskar, > > > > Sorry for overlooking the relationship between > > > > lagnalord and 9th lord.Before checking the chart I was > > > > checking that relationship but somehow missed it.Then > > > > I checked up in navamsa. Yes Sir, you are right both > > > > the lords are in karak sthaan thus nullifying the > > > > delay.and marriage is timely. > > > > Whereas expenditure should be less than his income as > > > > per SAV points in 11th and 12 house.Points in 12th > > > > house is less than that of 11th house His 12th house > > > > points and 10th house points are same and 11th house > > > > point is 32 which is more than that of 10th and > > > > 11th(30 points each).His DBCE from lagna is also in > > > > increasing order but this is not for > > > > expenditure.However chart is not before me so at > > > > present i can't see the planets contribution for 11th > > > > and 12th house from WS.Let you know next day. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > --- ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Very good that atleast you have first begun to check > > > > the authenticity > > > > of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins > > > > difference. > > > > Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had > > > > asked me to be > > > > thorough and make full effort to first make sure of > > > > birth time before > > > > venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very > > > > noble science > > > > and its not a joke. > > > > I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check > > > > some events. > > > > Yes, you found that something was amiss here. > > > > > > > > You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that > > > > 9th lord has > > > > gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak > > > > sthan. So that > > > > might play some part in reducing delay. > > > > > > > > Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The > > > > antra before that > > > > in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power > > > > and is LoE. > > > > > > > > The birth time is in ball park i feel however there > > > > might be slight > > > > difference in time. > > > > > > > > I do not know when this marriage was fixed either. > > > > Sometimes there > > > > can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat > > > > that might case > > > > delays. > > > > > > > > Here if Gopal can give more details on when the > > > > marriage was fixed > > > > and we know when it was performed. In that case > > > > things will get > > > > sorted out. > > > > > > > > Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp > > > > than income. Are > > > > u able to see that in the WS? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, > > > > > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo > > > > navamsa.KAY is > > > > 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness > > > > of the chart. > > > > Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its > > > > authenticity. However > > > > marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. > > > > Rahu is SD to Nk > > > > of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. > > > > > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of > > > > B. It occupies > > > > house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself > > > > LoB also. In > > > > navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th > > > > lord from House > > > > 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual > > > > marriage was > > > > performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal > > > > according to > > > > Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be > > > > checked. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins > > > > conceived in Jan > > > > 2005 > > > > > or Jan 2006? > > > > > > > > > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and > > > > cast your chart > > > > > using KAY. > > > > > > > > > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not > > > > use Prati antar > > > > > Dasha. > > > > > > > > > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready > > > > reference so > > > > > that members attempting your chart, their analysis > > > > using KAS you > > > > can > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > " GOPAL " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > > > > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > > > > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in > > > > mid jan 2006. > > > > > > > > > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most > > > > but with the > > > > > number > > > > > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than > > > > income. Expenses > > > > > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing > > > > which is > > > > > causing > > > > > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with > > > > regard to job > > > > change? > > > > > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with > > > > regard to job > > > > despite > > > > > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with > > > > regard to > > > > > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house > > > > and the sarva > > > > > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily > > > > tell u about the > > > > > > > reason for job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a > > > > special law that > > > > > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation > > > > to the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception > > > > in about dec > > > > > 2004 > > > > > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might > > > > have had twins > > > > > in > > > > > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage > > > > might have been in > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months > > > > difference. This > > > > > gentleman > > > > > > is > > > > > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change > > > > can reflect > > > > > large > > > > > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying > > > > the chart but > > > > > > just > > > > > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career > > > > etc I am sure > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > who studies this chart and want to practice > > > > w.r.t career, > > > > > finances > > > > > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems > > > > in Guru antra > > > > > and > > > > > > > quite possible u might have faced some > > > > challenges w.r.t > > > > > > debt/higher > > > > > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to > > > > income in Rahu > > > > > antra > > > > > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied > > > > closely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > " GOPAL " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last > > > > 3 years or so. > > > > > > > Severe > > > > > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good > > > > otherwise, Can > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since > > > > then. > > > > > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Dear Gopal, As far i came to know about astrology (not from KAS but from other group), there is no hard and fast rule. A person having many good planets in 10th house can live the life of a hermit (Lord Budha) and a person having many bad yogas can live the life of a king (Osho). Rishi Parashara made few rules. New astrologers made few other rules. Sometimes these rule contradict and exactly oppose each other. If astrologer says that this period of time is going to be painful. Then how painful ? Having a headache is quite painful and losing someone's part of body is also painful. I guess astrology gives a very broad idea but sometimes it works and sometimes it complete failure. There are so many complication in a horoscope that a person who is reading someone's chart must be very very and very intelligent. And nothing should skip from his eyes. And not only this, sometimes in a horscope there are contradicting yogas. Now what an astrolgoer can do in this case ? It is very appreciative that you have gained so much in life and almost living life happily. Till you have 'peace of mind' keep on enjoying it as you will never know when the bad time will start. When first bad thing will happen in your life, you will take it easy. Then second bad accident happen to you, you will struggle and will try to beat it. Then third bad thing will happen in your life and will be surprized and will start praying to God for peace. On fourth bad accident, you will cry but will not lose the faith in God. On 5th accident, you will become kind of 'revolting person' somewhat like cursing ' God'. On 6th accident, you will start crying and laughing at the same time but you will still pray to the God for some divine help but nothing will happen. Tears will come, you will pray to God but nothing will change and then there will be the next morning..... ( it is not for you. I am just telling a general idea and how i reacted on each accident) I guess i said too much......... So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a wonderful life instead of planets with less than 4 points, you will start enjoying the blessing you got. But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad idea about your life. Best Wishes Jagdish GOPAL <gopal_ks wrote: I've just started learning this system. So pardon my ignorance. Benefic planets are ones with more than 4 bindus per KAS Just like anyone else, checked out mine first. Found out that not a single planent with more than 4 bindus in my chart. With not a single benefic planet, how could I've achieved fairly good life at a young age (education, decent job, marriage, kids, house etc., within age 30); Thanks, Gopal , " GOPAL " <gopal_ks wrote: > > Thanks everyone for their contribution. I feel excited about KAS > techniques and working on learning it. > > Thanks, > Gopal > > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, Gopal and list members, Namaskar, > > Thanks Ash for encouragements. It is you only who teach us the > system. By virtue of your good guidance I think I can pick up and > become your followers. Thanks once again.Let me proceed further for > future symtomps.Native is going through Sat antara from 05 Jun 2006 > till 10 Apr 2009.Sat is FK for 11th and 12th house and situated in > the second from 11th house.What circumstances may take place.Sat is > LoD for 9th house of luck and 10th house of authority respectively. > He is LoE for 1st house and 2nd house.Sat also aignifies third and > seventh house by its placement in 12th house.It means Sat signifies > houses 1st,2nd,3rd,7th,9th and 10th..Sat is very powerful in all > these houses No doubt native may earn but side by side his > expenditure will go more than his income. Reason being Sat is having > more point in 12th house of expenses than that of 11th house of > income.Secondly Sat is weak in 4th house of income. > > At present Sat is transiting in Karka where he has only three > points and Jup is transiting in Libra who also has 3 > points.Therefore Jup and Sat total amounts come to only six which is > less than eight.Since total transit points of these two planets are > less, they may give the difficulties , worries and the result may > be unfavourable. Sat moves in Leo on 19 Oct 06 and Jup remains in > Libra the total points during this transition are seven still less > than eight But on 23 Oct 06 Jup moves into Scorpio then their > combine point raise to total nine which is a favourable oppotunity > for the native Therefore whenever transit of Sat and Jup brings the > total more than eight point native may get the favourable result in > respect of his income. Will continue. Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra. > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, Gopal and List Members, > > Well done. You have found out the issues. > > > > Ju current antra has less power in 6th house and 11th vs 12th > > comparision. 12th house points of Ju in WS is more than 11th > > points. So its quiet clear. > > > > Things like Ju being in 10th house with 4 bindus and in 32 bindus > > house means more than 28 can't blindly mean that Ju antra will be > > good. Such things can be misleading. Yes say if lagna was Libra > > then that might become an exception. Here Ju would become LoD for > > 6th and LoE for 10th or Say if Capricorn was the lagna in that > case > > Ju might become LoE for 10th so it might be good for authority > (10th > > house) and that time we must see power of 6th etc etc etc. > > > > Another point you have given clearly too. > > > > Let study since start of Gopals career how this trend has been as > > Gopal has clearly said that he never had any savings despite good > > income. > > > > He started his career in 2000 before that it was more education > > geared. That might be Venus antra. In Venus antra 12th poitns > are > > more than 11th in WS with 11th house showing 11. So more expenses > > than income. > > > > Next came Sun antra. Sun has 21 points in 11th and 14 in 12th. > So > > here some savings but Sun antra is small only 4 months. > > > > Next came Moon in Mars AD. Moon has 14 points in 11th vs 19 > points > > in 12th. So more expenses than income again. So no savings or > some > > savings that were there in Sun antra were spent in Moon antra. > > > > After that Came Rahu. Rahu is SD to Venus. Venus again has 11 > > points in 11th house and 16 points in 12th. AGain its showing > more > > expenses than income. This is in Rahu MD. > > > > Now Gopal is in Guru antra in Rahu MD. Guru has 18 points in 11th > > and 20 points in 12th at the same time it has 9 points in 6th > house > > and its SD to sun who is in 2nd house with 4 bindus so it will > also > > give worries. MF of Jupiter is also 0.5 as its in sign of enemy. > > > > All the points in 12th house (of pleasures or as we call it Moksh) > > are good. All points of 7th, 4th (except for Sa) are all good. > > Most of the power of power of planets in WS are good. > > > > DBCE pooints are in ascending order so Gopal if working cannot be > > happy with just an ordinary post. He needs more space or a post > > wherein he can direct how work is done like a high post in a > company > > or CEO or he will eventually do his own business. > > > > Also here more expense as compared to expense is there so that > might > > be the driving factor too. > > > > Let us see how things pan out for Gopal in the future. > > > > In Mars and Moon antra more worries or say less authorty type of > > jobs will be experienced. Ketu is also SD to Mars so similar > > experience in KEtu too. > > > > Other facts about intellegence etc are correct. Gopal has more > > sectors of Mars and Mercury i.e. lagna , sun and moon in navamsa, > > drekkhana and trishansa. He might be daring and will take risks. > > > > Good attempt and congratz Ramesh, on your finding the root cause > of > > such things. If one follows what is given in standard texts on > > Ashtakvarg then he might be under impression that Jupiter being in > > 10th house in 32 bindu house with netural power might be good for > > career in all cases which as per this example is not accurate. > > Infact the only antra that will cause problems and lack of > happiness > > of 6th house is Guru. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar, > > > I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in my > hand.As > > is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and Moon is > > 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is > 27:27:36:30 > > in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and Moon > the > > native is ready to take risk in life. > > > No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native lacks > > sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is in Me > > divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second house. > Lesson > > 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always gives some > > obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and he > > occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24 points in > > 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of Sat is > > more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of income. > > > Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is very > > weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th (20) than > > that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes up to > > Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu is SD to > > Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th house than > > that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be there > for > > native. > > > Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan karak and > > 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies dhansthaan.Similarly > Jup > > is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job and he > > too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This Jup and > 6th > > lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak and > bhagya > > karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ). > > > I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit in this > > chart. > > > Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house is > less > > than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a good > income > > compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th than the > 36 > > in 11th house. In WS also Jup in 10th house has 17 points than the > > 18 in 11th house.Though it is almost equal. > > > Sir please check up my readings so far whether I am inline or > > some improvemetns is needed. I will advance further for occupation > > only after listening my approach from you. As per this chart > Native > > should do a business of Saturn related matters. Awaiting for your > > guidance.Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > GOPAL <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > More data for further analysis > > > > > > 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income > > > 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000 but the > > actual > > > marriage took place on june-11-2001; > > > 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998 > > > 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003 > > > 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from june-1998 > to > > nov- > > > -2000. > > > 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst(programmer) > and > > > working since then nov2000 to now. > > > 7) relocated within the company to texas from wisconsin on april- > > 30- > > > 2005. > > > 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and expenses, > but > > > feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Gopal > > > > > > , Ash <ashsam73@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the current > > antra > > > Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running. > > > > > > > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra. If 12th > > is > > > more than 11th then it means that the native is facing more > > expenses > > > than income. > > > > > > > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats happening on > > the > > > job front. > > > > > > > > So if the native is facing problems in job then check the > job > > > related houses and the power of the planets in WS for that > antra. > > > Check the next antra to see what will happen going forward and > the > > > points of planets w.r.t. job related house. > > > > > > > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra that > Gopal > > is > > > in? > > > > > > > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of that? > > > > > > > > Check the natives brilliance of the native ? > > > > > > > > Check the career giving planets and ask the native in which > > field > > > is he in? Say the career givign planets are Venus, Venus, Venus > > > i.e .from 10th lords from lagna sun and moon and they are in > > navamsa > > > of Venus. If such a person is put in a mechanical enginnering > > shop > > > floor he might be happy and he might eventually change his field > > to > > > somewhere where he can use his artistic knowledge and flourish. > > > > > > > > Get an idea on the nature and capability of the person. > > > > > > > > SAV is for overall result, but WS is giving us power in > > specific > > > antras. > > > > > > > > So if 11th vs 12th points in SAV in 11th is more than 12th > > then > > > the person will have savings in his life, but what is happening > in > > a > > > particular antra we can see from WS. > > > > > > > > These are somethings I can check off the top of my head. > Yes, > > I > > > am not dwleving into transit of Sa and Ju planets etc but u can > > get > > > into that slowly. > > > > > > > > So ask question but first make sure u get full idea of the > > native > > > and his nature and the chart will reflect that. > > > > > > > > Again go through the lessons closely if u are stuck up. > > > > > > > > Try again using the above hints. But in general Gopal > asked, > > Ju > > > is in 10th house with 4 bindus and its in a house with 32 bindus > > then > > > how come he is facing issues in job or unable to find a better > > job? > > > > > > > > I beleive the understanding of Gopal is that if a planet is > in > > > 10th house and with netural bindus and if its in a house with 32 > > > points must mean that it should be good for job and career but > > facts > > > are not reflecting the same? > > > > > > > > This is also what many people having limited knowledge of > > > Ashtakvarg which is found in books might also have. So here u > can > > > clear their doubts and give concrete results based on firm > grounds > > on > > > the importance of KAS in timing of event. > > > > > > > > Try again Ramesh, I have full confidence that u can just > look > > at > > > the WS and tell Gopal about his job and issues faced there in > and > > > more expense than income. > > > > > > > > Other list members can also attempt the same who are more > > > experienced with KAS. > > > > l > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > My Dear Ash, Namaskar, > > > > Sorry for overlooking the relationship between > > > > lagnalord and 9th lord.Before checking the chart I was > > > > checking that relationship but somehow missed it.Then > > > > I checked up in navamsa. Yes Sir, you are right both > > > > the lords are in karak sthaan thus nullifying the > > > > delay.and marriage is timely. > > > > Whereas expenditure should be less than his income as > > > > per SAV points in 11th and 12 house.Points in 12th > > > > house is less than that of 11th house His 12th house > > > > points and 10th house points are same and 11th house > > > > point is 32 which is more than that of 10th and > > > > 11th(30 points each).His DBCE from lagna is also in > > > > increasing order but this is not for > > > > expenditure.However chart is not before me so at > > > > present i can't see the planets contribution for 11th > > > > and 12th house from WS.Let you know next day. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > --- ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Very good that atleast you have first begun to check > > > > the authenticity > > > > of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins > > > > difference. > > > > Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had > > > > asked me to be > > > > thorough and make full effort to first make sure of > > > > birth time before > > > > venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very > > > > noble science > > > > and its not a joke. > > > > I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check > > > > some events. > > > > Yes, you found that something was amiss here. > > > > > > > > You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that > > > > 9th lord has > > > > gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak > > > > sthan. So that > > > > might play some part in reducing delay. > > > > > > > > Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The > > > > antra before that > > > > in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power > > > > and is LoE. > > > > > > > > The birth time is in ball park i feel however there > > > > might be slight > > > > difference in time. > > > > > > > > I do not know when this marriage was fixed either. > > > > Sometimes there > > > > can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat > > > > that might case > > > > delays. > > > > > > > > Here if Gopal can give more details on when the > > > > marriage was fixed > > > > and we know when it was performed. In that case > > > > things will get > > > > sorted out. > > > > > > > > Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp > > > > than income. Are > > > > u able to see that in the WS? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, > > > > > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo > > > > navamsa.KAY is > > > > 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness > > > > of the chart. > > > > Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its > > > > authenticity. However > > > > marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. > > > > Rahu is SD to Nk > > > > of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. > > > > > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of > > > > B. It occupies > > > > house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself > > > > LoB also. In > > > > navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th > > > > lord from House > > > > 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual > > > > marriage was > > > > performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal > > > > according to > > > > Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be > > > > checked. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins > > > > conceived in Jan > > > > 2005 > > > > > or Jan 2006? > > > > > > > > > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and > > > > cast your chart > > > > > using KAY. > > > > > > > > > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not > > > > use Prati antar > > > > > Dasha. > > > > > > > > > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready > > > > reference so > > > > > that members attempting your chart, their analysis > > > > using KAS you > > > > can > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > " GOPAL " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > > > > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > > > > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in > > > > mid jan 2006. > > > > > > > > > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most > > > > but with the > > > > > number > > > > > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than > > > > income. Expenses > > > > > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing > > > > which is > > > > > causing > > > > > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with > > > > regard to job > > > > change? > > > > > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with > > > > regard to job > > > > despite > > > > > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with > > > > regard to > > > > > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house > > > > and the sarva > > > > > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily > > > > tell u about the > > > > > > > reason for job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a > > > > special law that > > > > > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation > > > > to the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception > > > > in about dec > > > > > 2004 > > > > > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might > > > > have had twins > > > > > in > > > > > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage > > > > might have been in > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months > > > > difference. This > > > > > gentleman > > > > > > is > > > > > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change > > > > can reflect > > > > > large > > > > > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying > > > > the chart but > > > > > > just > > > > > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career > > > > etc I am sure > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > who studies this chart and want to practice > > > > w.r.t career, > > > > > finances > > > > > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems > > > > in Guru antra > > > > > and > > > > > > > quite possible u might have faced some > > > > challenges w.r.t > > > > > > debt/higher > > > > > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to > > > > income in Rahu > > > > > antra > > > > > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied > > > > closely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > " GOPAL " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last > > > > 3 years or so. > > > > > > > Severe > > > > > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good > > > > otherwise, Can > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since > > > > then. > > > > > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Dear Gopal, Continue to read the lessons and the other part will get clear. In short its better to have planets with less than 4 bindus and in neecha sign. That increases the status of the chart and makes it powerful. Have u seen the power of the planets in your WS. Continue your studies further otherwise little knowlege might prove to be damaging. Yes, one other thing, KAS is very detailed and it will take some time for u to understand the basics. But once u get a strong foundations in the basics, grasping the rest will become easy. Have patience, keep clear mind, do not mix systems and study ALL the lessons with patience and slowly. Cheers !!! Ash , " GOPAL " <gopal_ks wrote: > > I've just started learning this system. So pardon my ignorance. > > Benefic planets are ones with more than 4 bindus per KAS > > Just like anyone else, checked out mine first. Found out that not a > single planent with more than 4 bindus in my chart. > > With not a single benefic planet, how could I've achieved fairly > good life at a young age (education, decent job, marriage, kids, > house etc., within age 30); > > Thanks, > Gopal > > , " GOPAL " > <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > Thanks everyone for their contribution. I feel excited about KAS > > techniques and working on learning it. > > > > Thanks, > > Gopal > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, Gopal and list members, Namaskar, > > > Thanks Ash for encouragements. It is you only who teach us the > > system. By virtue of your good guidance I think I can pick up and > > become your followers. Thanks once again.Let me proceed further > for > > future symtomps.Native is going through Sat antara from 05 Jun > 2006 > > till 10 Apr 2009.Sat is FK for 11th and 12th house and situated in > > the second from 11th house.What circumstances may take place.Sat > is > > LoD for 9th house of luck and 10th house of authority > respectively. > > He is LoE for 1st house and 2nd house.Sat also aignifies third and > > seventh house by its placement in 12th house.It means Sat > signifies > > houses 1st,2nd,3rd,7th,9th and 10th..Sat is very powerful in all > > these houses No doubt native may earn but side by side his > > expenditure will go more than his income. Reason being Sat is > having > > more point in 12th house of expenses than that of 11th house of > > income.Secondly Sat is weak in 4th house of income. > > > At present Sat is transiting in Karka where he has only three > > points and Jup is transiting in Libra who also has 3 > > points.Therefore Jup and Sat total amounts come to only six which > is > > less than eight.Since total transit points of these two planets > are > > less, they may give the difficulties , worries and the result may > > be unfavourable. Sat moves in Leo on 19 Oct 06 and Jup remains in > > Libra the total points during this transition are seven still less > > than eight But on 23 Oct 06 Jup moves into Scorpio then their > > combine point raise to total nine which is a favourable oppotunity > > for the native Therefore whenever transit of Sat and Jup brings > the > > total more than eight point native may get the favourable result > in > > respect of his income. Will continue. Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra. > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, Gopal and List Members, > > > Well done. You have found out the issues. > > > > > > Ju current antra has less power in 6th house and 11th vs 12th > > > comparision. 12th house points of Ju in WS is more than 11th > > > points. So its quiet clear. > > > > > > Things like Ju being in 10th house with 4 bindus and in 32 > bindus > > > house means more than 28 can't blindly mean that Ju antra will > be > > > good. Such things can be misleading. Yes say if lagna was > Libra > > > then that might become an exception. Here Ju would become LoD > for > > > 6th and LoE for 10th or Say if Capricorn was the lagna in that > > case > > > Ju might become LoE for 10th so it might be good for authority > > (10th > > > house) and that time we must see power of 6th etc etc etc. > > > > > > Another point you have given clearly too. > > > > > > Let study since start of Gopals career how this trend has been > as > > > Gopal has clearly said that he never had any savings despite > good > > > income. > > > > > > He started his career in 2000 before that it was more education > > > geared. That might be Venus antra. In Venus antra 12th poitns > > are > > > more than 11th in WS with 11th house showing 11. So more > expenses > > > than income. > > > > > > Next came Sun antra. Sun has 21 points in 11th and 14 in 12th. > > So > > > here some savings but Sun antra is small only 4 months. > > > > > > Next came Moon in Mars AD. Moon has 14 points in 11th vs 19 > > points > > > in 12th. So more expenses than income again. So no savings or > > some > > > savings that were there in Sun antra were spent in Moon antra. > > > > > > After that Came Rahu. Rahu is SD to Venus. Venus again has 11 > > > points in 11th house and 16 points in 12th. AGain its showing > > more > > > expenses than income. This is in Rahu MD. > > > > > > Now Gopal is in Guru antra in Rahu MD. Guru has 18 points in > 11th > > > and 20 points in 12th at the same time it has 9 points in 6th > > house > > > and its SD to sun who is in 2nd house with 4 bindus so it will > > also > > > give worries. MF of Jupiter is also 0.5 as its in sign of enemy. > > > > > > All the points in 12th house (of pleasures or as we call it > Moksh) > > > are good. All points of 7th, 4th (except for Sa) are all good. > > > Most of the power of power of planets in WS are good. > > > > > > DBCE pooints are in ascending order so Gopal if working cannot > be > > > happy with just an ordinary post. He needs more space or a post > > > wherein he can direct how work is done like a high post in a > > company > > > or CEO or he will eventually do his own business. > > > > > > Also here more expense as compared to expense is there so that > > might > > > be the driving factor too. > > > > > > Let us see how things pan out for Gopal in the future. > > > > > > In Mars and Moon antra more worries or say less authorty type of > > > jobs will be experienced. Ketu is also SD to Mars so similar > > > experience in KEtu too. > > > > > > Other facts about intellegence etc are correct. Gopal has more > > > sectors of Mars and Mercury i.e. lagna , sun and moon in > navamsa, > > > drekkhana and trishansa. He might be daring and will take > risks. > > > > > > Good attempt and congratz Ramesh, on your finding the root cause > > of > > > such things. If one follows what is given in standard texts on > > > Ashtakvarg then he might be under impression that Jupiter being > in > > > 10th house in 32 bindu house with netural power might be good > for > > > career in all cases which as per this example is not accurate. > > > Infact the only antra that will cause problems and lack of > > happiness > > > of 6th house is Guru. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar, > > > > I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in my > > hand.As > > > is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and Moon is > > > 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is > > 27:27:36:30 > > > in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and Moon > > the > > > native is ready to take risk in life. > > > > No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native lacks > > > sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is in Me > > > divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second house. > > Lesson > > > 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always gives > some > > > obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and he > > > occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24 points > in > > > 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of Sat > is > > > more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of > income. > > > > Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is very > > > weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th (20) > than > > > that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes up to > > > Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu is SD > to > > > Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th house > than > > > that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be there > > for > > > native. > > > > Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan karak and > > > 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies dhansthaan.Similarly > > Jup > > > is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job and > he > > > too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This Jup and > > 6th > > > lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak and > > bhagya > > > karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ). > > > > I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit in > this > > > chart. > > > > Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house is > > less > > > than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a good > > income > > > compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th than > the > > 36 > > > in 11th house. In WS also Jup in 10th house has 17 points than > the > > > 18 in 11th house.Though it is almost equal. > > > > Sir please check up my readings so far whether I am inline > or > > > some improvemetns is needed. I will advance further for > occupation > > > only after listening my approach from you. As per this chart > > Native > > > should do a business of Saturn related matters. Awaiting for > your > > > guidance.Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > GOPAL <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > More data for further analysis > > > > > > > > 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income > > > > 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000 but the > > > actual > > > > marriage took place on june-11-2001; > > > > 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998 > > > > 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003 > > > > 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from june- 1998 > > to > > > nov- > > > > -2000. > > > > 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst (programmer) > > and > > > > working since then nov2000 to now. > > > > 7) relocated within the company to texas from wisconsin on > april- > > > 30- > > > > 2005. > > > > 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and expenses, > > but > > > > feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > , Ash > <ashsam73@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the current > > > antra > > > > Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running. > > > > > > > > > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra. If > 12th > > > is > > > > more than 11th then it means that the native is facing more > > > expenses > > > > than income. > > > > > > > > > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats happening > on > > > the > > > > job front. > > > > > > > > > > So if the native is facing problems in job then check the > > job > > > > related houses and the power of the planets in WS for that > > antra. > > > > Check the next antra to see what will happen going forward and > > the > > > > points of planets w.r.t. job related house. > > > > > > > > > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra that > > Gopal > > > is > > > > in? > > > > > > > > > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of > that? > > > > > > > > > > Check the natives brilliance of the native ? > > > > > > > > > > Check the career giving planets and ask the native in > which > > > field > > > > is he in? Say the career givign planets are Venus, Venus, > Venus > > > > i.e .from 10th lords from lagna sun and moon and they are in > > > navamsa > > > > of Venus. If such a person is put in a mechanical enginnering > > > shop > > > > floor he might be happy and he might eventually change his > field > > > to > > > > somewhere where he can use his artistic knowledge and flourish. > > > > > > > > > > Get an idea on the nature and capability of the person. > > > > > > > > > > SAV is for overall result, but WS is giving us power in > > > specific > > > > antras. > > > > > > > > > > So if 11th vs 12th points in SAV in 11th is more than 12th > > > then > > > > the person will have savings in his life, but what is > happening > > in > > > a > > > > particular antra we can see from WS. > > > > > > > > > > These are somethings I can check off the top of my head. > > Yes, > > > I > > > > am not dwleving into transit of Sa and Ju planets etc but u > can > > > get > > > > into that slowly. > > > > > > > > > > So ask question but first make sure u get full idea of the > > > native > > > > and his nature and the chart will reflect that. > > > > > > > > > > Again go through the lessons closely if u are stuck up. > > > > > > > > > > Try again using the above hints. But in general Gopal > > asked, > > > Ju > > > > is in 10th house with 4 bindus and its in a house with 32 > bindus > > > then > > > > how come he is facing issues in job or unable to find a better > > > job? > > > > > > > > > > I beleive the understanding of Gopal is that if a planet > is > > in > > > > 10th house and with netural bindus and if its in a house with > 32 > > > > points must mean that it should be good for job and career but > > > facts > > > > are not reflecting the same? > > > > > > > > > > This is also what many people having limited knowledge of > > > > Ashtakvarg which is found in books might also have. So here u > > can > > > > clear their doubts and give concrete results based on firm > > grounds > > > on > > > > the importance of KAS in timing of event. > > > > > > > > > > Try again Ramesh, I have full confidence that u can just > > look > > > at > > > > the WS and tell Gopal about his job and issues faced there in > > and > > > > more expense than income. > > > > > > > > > > Other list members can also attempt the same who are more > > > > experienced with KAS. > > > > > l > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > My Dear Ash, Namaskar, > > > > > Sorry for overlooking the relationship between > > > > > lagnalord and 9th lord.Before checking the chart I was > > > > > checking that relationship but somehow missed it.Then > > > > > I checked up in navamsa. Yes Sir, you are right both > > > > > the lords are in karak sthaan thus nullifying the > > > > > delay.and marriage is timely. > > > > > Whereas expenditure should be less than his income as > > > > > per SAV points in 11th and 12 house.Points in 12th > > > > > house is less than that of 11th house His 12th house > > > > > points and 10th house points are same and 11th house > > > > > point is 32 which is more than that of 10th and > > > > > 11th(30 points each).His DBCE from lagna is also in > > > > > increasing order but this is not for > > > > > expenditure.However chart is not before me so at > > > > > present i can't see the planets contribution for 11th > > > > > and 12th house from WS.Let you know next day. > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > --- ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > Very good that atleast you have first begun to check > > > > > the authenticity > > > > > of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins > > > > > difference. > > > > > Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had > > > > > asked me to be > > > > > thorough and make full effort to first make sure of > > > > > birth time before > > > > > venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very > > > > > noble science > > > > > and its not a joke. > > > > > I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check > > > > > some events. > > > > > Yes, you found that something was amiss here. > > > > > > > > > > You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that > > > > > 9th lord has > > > > > gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak > > > > > sthan. So that > > > > > might play some part in reducing delay. > > > > > > > > > > Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The > > > > > antra before that > > > > > in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power > > > > > and is LoE. > > > > > > > > > > The birth time is in ball park i feel however there > > > > > might be slight > > > > > difference in time. > > > > > > > > > > I do not know when this marriage was fixed either. > > > > > Sometimes there > > > > > can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat > > > > > that might case > > > > > delays. > > > > > > > > > > Here if Gopal can give more details on when the > > > > > marriage was fixed > > > > > and we know when it was performed. In that case > > > > > things will get > > > > > sorted out. > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp > > > > > than income. Are > > > > > u able to see that in the WS? > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, > > > > > > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo > > > > > navamsa.KAY is > > > > > 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness > > > > > of the chart. > > > > > Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its > > > > > authenticity. However > > > > > marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. > > > > > Rahu is SD to Nk > > > > > of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. > > > > > > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of > > > > > B. It occupies > > > > > house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself > > > > > LoB also. In > > > > > navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th > > > > > lord from House > > > > > 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual > > > > > marriage was > > > > > performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal > > > > > according to > > > > > Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be > > > > > checked. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins > > > > > conceived in Jan > > > > > 2005 > > > > > > or Jan 2006? > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and > > > > > cast your chart > > > > > > using KAY. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not > > > > > use Prati antar > > > > > > Dasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready > > > > > reference so > > > > > > that members attempting your chart, their analysis > > > > > using KAS you > > > > > can > > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " GOPAL " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > > > > > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > > > > > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in > > > > > mid jan 2006. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most > > > > > but with the > > > > > > number > > > > > > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than > > > > > income. Expenses > > > > > > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing > > > > > which is > > > > > > causing > > > > > > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with > > > > > regard to job > > > > > change? > > > > > > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with > > > > > regard to job > > > > > despite > > > > > > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with > > > > > regard to > > > > > > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house > > > > > and the sarva > > > > > > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily > > > > > tell u about the > > > > > > > > reason for job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a > > > > > special law that > > > > > > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation > > > > > to the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception > > > > > in about dec > > > > > > 2004 > > > > > > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might > > > > > have had twins > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage > > > > > might have been in > > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months > > > > > difference. This > > > > > > gentleman > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change > > > > > can reflect > > > > > > large > > > > > > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying > > > > > the chart but > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career > > > > > etc I am sure > > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > who studies this chart and want to practice > > > > > w.r.t career, > > > > > > finances > > > > > > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems > > > > > in Guru antra > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > quite possible u might have faced some > > > > > challenges w.r.t > > > > > > > debt/higher > > > > > > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to > > > > > income in Rahu > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied > > > > > closely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " GOPAL " > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last > > > > > 3 years or so. > > > > > > > > Severe > > > > > > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good > > > > > otherwise, Can > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > > > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > > > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > > > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since > > > > > then. > > > > > > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > > > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > > > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Dear Jagdish, You wrote " So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a wonderful life instead of planets with less than 4 points, you will start enjoying the blessing you got. But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad idea about your life. " Ash: Please do not dissuade Gopal or Others from their exploration. Let people have doubts and that is good. Accepting anything blindly is of no use. Without having doubts one cannot clear those doubts and in the process of doing so they will learn a lot. For your information, Ashtakvarg is not a subject to give broad idea on life. It's very precice and very scientific. Again to understand that u have to spend a lot of time and study hard and with dedication. Then after a few decades of sincere studies and solving thousands and thousands of charts using KAS, u will not pass such casual remark on this Jyotish Shastra. Someone has said that Failure is a stepping stone to success so why stop people especially from gaining knowledge? No one learns to walk without falling a few times...... If you can help someone using your knowledge, you are more than welcome, and in doing so u will only gain more knowedge, but please do not stop anyone from probing or trying to clear their doubts. Who knows tomorrow the same doubts will be raised by other new commers and at that time their journey to clear their doubt, and by sharing such knowledge will help others. So Gopal, go ahead, and have as many doubts as u can, and if I may, do not accept anything blindly. Work hard with dedication, and all your doubts can /will be solved in due course of time. Cheers !!! Ash , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Dear Gopal, > > As far i came to know about astrology (not from KAS but from other group), there is no hard and fast rule. A person having many good planets in 10th house can live the life of a hermit (Lord Budha) and a person having many bad yogas can live the life of a king (Osho). > > Rishi Parashara made few rules. New astrologers made few other rules. Sometimes these rule contradict and exactly oppose each other. > > If astrologer says that this period of time is going to be painful. Then how painful ? Having a headache is quite painful and losing someone's part of body is also painful. > > I guess astrology gives a very broad idea but sometimes it works and sometimes it complete failure. There are so many complication in a horoscope that a person who is reading someone's chart must be very very and very intelligent. And nothing should skip from his eyes. And not only this, sometimes in a horscope there are contradicting yogas. Now what an astrolgoer can do in this case ? > > It is very appreciative that you have gained so much in life and almost living life happily. Till you have 'peace of mind' keep on enjoying it as you will never know when the bad time will start. > > When first bad thing will happen in your life, you will take it easy. Then second bad accident happen to you, you will struggle and will try to beat it. Then third bad thing will happen in your life and will be surprized and will start praying to God for peace. On fourth bad accident, you will cry but will not lose the faith in God. On 5th accident, you will become kind of 'revolting person' somewhat like cursing ' God'. On 6th accident, you will start crying and laughing at the same time but you will still pray to the God for some divine help but nothing will happen. Tears will come, you will pray to God but nothing will change and then there will be the next morning..... > > ( it is not for you. I am just telling a general idea and how i reacted on each accident) > > I guess i said too much......... > > So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a wonderful life instead of planets with less than 4 points, you will start enjoying the blessing you got. > > But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad idea about your life. > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > GOPAL <gopal_ks wrote: > I've just started learning this system. So pardon my ignorance. > > Benefic planets are ones with more than 4 bindus per KAS > > Just like anyone else, checked out mine first. Found out that not a > single planent with more than 4 bindus in my chart. > > With not a single benefic planet, how could I've achieved fairly > good life at a young age (education, decent job, marriage, kids, > house etc., within age 30); > > Thanks, > Gopal > > , " GOPAL " > <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > Thanks everyone for their contribution. I feel excited about KAS > > techniques and working on learning it. > > > > Thanks, > > Gopal > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, Gopal and list members, Namaskar, > > > Thanks Ash for encouragements. It is you only who teach us the > > system. By virtue of your good guidance I think I can pick up and > > become your followers. Thanks once again.Let me proceed further > for > > future symtomps.Native is going through Sat antara from 05 Jun > 2006 > > till 10 Apr 2009.Sat is FK for 11th and 12th house and situated in > > the second from 11th house.What circumstances may take place.Sat > is > > LoD for 9th house of luck and 10th house of authority > respectively. > > He is LoE for 1st house and 2nd house.Sat also aignifies third and > > seventh house by its placement in 12th house.It means Sat > signifies > > houses 1st,2nd,3rd,7th,9th and 10th..Sat is very powerful in all > > these houses No doubt native may earn but side by side his > > expenditure will go more than his income. Reason being Sat is > having > > more point in 12th house of expenses than that of 11th house of > > income.Secondly Sat is weak in 4th house of income. > > > At present Sat is transiting in Karka where he has only three > > points and Jup is transiting in Libra who also has 3 > > points.Therefore Jup and Sat total amounts come to only six which > is > > less than eight.Since total transit points of these two planets > are > > less, they may give the difficulties , worries and the result may > > be unfavourable. Sat moves in Leo on 19 Oct 06 and Jup remains in > > Libra the total points during this transition are seven still less > > than eight But on 23 Oct 06 Jup moves into Scorpio then their > > combine point raise to total nine which is a favourable oppotunity > > for the native Therefore whenever transit of Sat and Jup brings > the > > total more than eight point native may get the favourable result > in > > respect of his income. Will continue. Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra. > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, Gopal and List Members, > > > Well done. You have found out the issues. > > > > > > Ju current antra has less power in 6th house and 11th vs 12th > > > comparision. 12th house points of Ju in WS is more than 11th > > > points. So its quiet clear. > > > > > > Things like Ju being in 10th house with 4 bindus and in 32 > bindus > > > house means more than 28 can't blindly mean that Ju antra will > be > > > good. Such things can be misleading. Yes say if lagna was > Libra > > > then that might become an exception. Here Ju would become LoD > for > > > 6th and LoE for 10th or Say if Capricorn was the lagna in that > > case > > > Ju might become LoE for 10th so it might be good for authority > > (10th > > > house) and that time we must see power of 6th etc etc etc. > > > > > > Another point you have given clearly too. > > > > > > Let study since start of Gopals career how this trend has been > as > > > Gopal has clearly said that he never had any savings despite > good > > > income. > > > > > > He started his career in 2000 before that it was more education > > > geared. That might be Venus antra. In Venus antra 12th poitns > > are > > > more than 11th in WS with 11th house showing 11. So more > expenses > > > than income. > > > > > > Next came Sun antra. Sun has 21 points in 11th and 14 in 12th. > > So > > > here some savings but Sun antra is small only 4 months. > > > > > > Next came Moon in Mars AD. Moon has 14 points in 11th vs 19 > > points > > > in 12th. So more expenses than income again. So no savings or > > some > > > savings that were there in Sun antra were spent in Moon antra. > > > > > > After that Came Rahu. Rahu is SD to Venus. Venus again has 11 > > > points in 11th house and 16 points in 12th. AGain its showing > > more > > > expenses than income. This is in Rahu MD. > > > > > > Now Gopal is in Guru antra in Rahu MD. Guru has 18 points in > 11th > > > and 20 points in 12th at the same time it has 9 points in 6th > > house > > > and its SD to sun who is in 2nd house with 4 bindus so it will > > also > > > give worries. MF of Jupiter is also 0.5 as its in sign of enemy. > > > > > > All the points in 12th house (of pleasures or as we call it > Moksh) > > > are good. All points of 7th, 4th (except for Sa) are all good. > > > Most of the power of power of planets in WS are good. > > > > > > DBCE pooints are in ascending order so Gopal if working cannot > be > > > happy with just an ordinary post. He needs more space or a post > > > wherein he can direct how work is done like a high post in a > > company > > > or CEO or he will eventually do his own business. > > > > > > Also here more expense as compared to expense is there so that > > might > > > be the driving factor too. > > > > > > Let us see how things pan out for Gopal in the future. > > > > > > In Mars and Moon antra more worries or say less authorty type of > > > jobs will be experienced. Ketu is also SD to Mars so similar > > > experience in KEtu too. > > > > > > Other facts about intellegence etc are correct. Gopal has more > > > sectors of Mars and Mercury i.e. lagna , sun and moon in > navamsa, > > > drekkhana and trishansa. He might be daring and will take > risks. > > > > > > Good attempt and congratz Ramesh, on your finding the root cause > > of > > > such things. If one follows what is given in standard texts on > > > Ashtakvarg then he might be under impression that Jupiter being > in > > > 10th house in 32 bindu house with netural power might be good > for > > > career in all cases which as per this example is not accurate. > > > Infact the only antra that will cause problems and lack of > > happiness > > > of 6th house is Guru. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar, > > > > I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in my > > hand.As > > > is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and Moon is > > > 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is > > 27:27:36:30 > > > in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and Moon > > the > > > native is ready to take risk in life. > > > > No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native lacks > > > sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is in Me > > > divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second house. > > Lesson > > > 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always gives > some > > > obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and he > > > occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24 points > in > > > 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of Sat > is > > > more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of > income. > > > > Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is very > > > weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th (20) > than > > > that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes up to > > > Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu is SD > to > > > Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th house > than > > > that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be there > > for > > > native. > > > > Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan karak and > > > 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies dhansthaan.Similarly > > Jup > > > is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job and > he > > > too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This Jup and > > 6th > > > lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak and > > bhagya > > > karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ). > > > > I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit in > this > > > chart. > > > > Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house is > > less > > > than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a good > > income > > > compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th than > the > > 36 > > > in 11th house. In WS also Jup in 10th house has 17 points than > the > > > 18 in 11th house.Though it is almost equal. > > > > Sir please check up my readings so far whether I am inline > or > > > some improvemetns is needed. I will advance further for > occupation > > > only after listening my approach from you. As per this chart > > Native > > > should do a business of Saturn related matters. Awaiting for > your > > > guidance.Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > GOPAL <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > More data for further analysis > > > > > > > > 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income > > > > 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000 but the > > > actual > > > > marriage took place on june-11-2001; > > > > 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998 > > > > 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003 > > > > 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from june- 1998 > > to > > > nov- > > > > -2000. > > > > 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst (programmer) > > and > > > > working since then nov2000 to now. > > > > 7) relocated within the company to texas from wisconsin on > april- > > > 30- > > > > 2005. > > > > 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and expenses, > > but > > > > feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > , Ash > <ashsam73@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the current > > > antra > > > > Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running. > > > > > > > > > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra. If > 12th > > > is > > > > more than 11th then it means that the native is facing more > > > expenses > > > > than income. > > > > > > > > > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats happening > on > > > the > > > > job front. > > > > > > > > > > So if the native is facing problems in job then check the > > job > > > > related houses and the power of the planets in WS for that > > antra. > > > > Check the next antra to see what will happen going forward and > > the > > > > points of planets w.r.t. job related house. > > > > > > > > > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra that > > Gopal > > > is > > > > in? > > > > > > > > > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of > that? > > > > > > > > > > Check the natives brilliance of the native ? > > > > > > > > > > Check the career giving planets and ask the native in > which > > > field > > > > is he in? Say the career givign planets are Venus, Venus, > Venus > > > > i.e .from 10th lords from lagna sun and moon and they are in > > > navamsa > > > > of Venus. If such a person is put in a mechanical enginnering > > > shop > > > > floor he might be happy and he might eventually change his > field > > > to > > > > somewhere where he can use his artistic knowledge and flourish. > > > > > > > > > > Get an idea on the nature and capability of the person. > > > > > > > > > > SAV is for overall result, but WS is giving us power in > > > specific > > > > antras. > > > > > > > > > > So if 11th vs 12th points in SAV in 11th is more than 12th > > > then > > > > the person will have savings in his life, but what is > happening > > in > > > a > > > > particular antra we can see from WS. > > > > > > > > > > These are somethings I can check off the top of my head. > > Yes, > > > I > > > > am not dwleving into transit of Sa and Ju planets etc but u > can > > > get > > > > into that slowly. > > > > > > > > > > So ask question but first make sure u get full idea of the > > > native > > > > and his nature and the chart will reflect that. > > > > > > > > > > Again go through the lessons closely if u are stuck up. > > > > > > > > > > Try again using the above hints. But in general Gopal > > asked, > > > Ju > > > > is in 10th house with 4 bindus and its in a house with 32 > bindus > > > then > > > > how come he is facing issues in job or unable to find a better > > > job? > > > > > > > > > > I beleive the understanding of Gopal is that if a planet > is > > in > > > > 10th house and with netural bindus and if its in a house with > 32 > > > > points must mean that it should be good for job and career but > > > facts > > > > are not reflecting the same? > > > > > > > > > > This is also what many people having limited knowledge of > > > > Ashtakvarg which is found in books might also have. So here u > > can > > > > clear their doubts and give concrete results based on firm > > grounds > > > on > > > > the importance of KAS in timing of event. > > > > > > > > > > Try again Ramesh, I have full confidence that u can just > > look > > > at > > > > the WS and tell Gopal about his job and issues faced there in > > and > > > > more expense than income. > > > > > > > > > > Other list members can also attempt the same who are more > > > > experienced with KAS. > > > > > l > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > My Dear Ash, Namaskar, > > > > > Sorry for overlooking the relationship between > > > > > lagnalord and 9th lord.Before checking the chart I was > > > > > checking that relationship but somehow missed it.Then > > > > > I checked up in navamsa. Yes Sir, you are right both > > > > > the lords are in karak sthaan thus nullifying the > > > > > delay.and marriage is timely. > > > > > Whereas expenditure should be less than his income as > > > > > per SAV points in 11th and 12 house.Points in 12th > > > > > house is less than that of 11th house His 12th house > > > > > points and 10th house points are same and 11th house > > > > > point is 32 which is more than that of 10th and > > > > > 11th(30 points each).His DBCE from lagna is also in > > > > > increasing order but this is not for > > > > > expenditure.However chart is not before me so at > > > > > present i can't see the planets contribution for 11th > > > > > and 12th house from WS.Let you know next day. > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > --- ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > Very good that atleast you have first begun to check > > > > > the authenticity > > > > > of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins > > > > > difference. > > > > > Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had > > > > > asked me to be > > > > > thorough and make full effort to first make sure of > > > > > birth time before > > > > > venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very > > > > > noble science > > > > > and its not a joke. > > > > > I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check > > > > > some events. > > > > > Yes, you found that something was amiss here. > > > > > > > > > > You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that > > > > > 9th lord has > > > > > gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak > > > > > sthan. So that > > > > > might play some part in reducing delay. > > > > > > > > > > Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The > > > > > antra before that > > > > > in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power > > > > > and is LoE. > > > > > > > > > > The birth time is in ball park i feel however there > > > > > might be slight > > > > > difference in time. > > > > > > > > > > I do not know when this marriage was fixed either. > > > > > Sometimes there > > > > > can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat > > > > > that might case > > > > > delays. > > > > > > > > > > Here if Gopal can give more details on when the > > > > > marriage was fixed > > > > > and we know when it was performed. In that case > > > > > things will get > > > > > sorted out. > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp > > > > > than income. Are > > > > > u able to see that in the WS? > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, > > > > > > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo > > > > > navamsa.KAY is > > > > > 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness > > > > > of the chart. > > > > > Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its > > > > > authenticity. However > > > > > marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. > > > > > Rahu is SD to Nk > > > > > of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. > > > > > > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of > > > > > B. It occupies > > > > > house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself > > > > > LoB also. In > > > > > navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th > > > > > lord from House > > > > > 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual > > > > > marriage was > > > > > performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal > > > > > according to > > > > > Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be > > > > > checked. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins > > > > > conceived in Jan > > > > > 2005 > > > > > > or Jan 2006? > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and > > > > > cast your chart > > > > > > using KAY. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not > > > > > use Prati antar > > > > > > Dasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready > > > > > reference so > > > > > > that members attempting your chart, their analysis > > > > > using KAS you > > > > > can > > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " GOPAL " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > > > > > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > > > > > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in > > > > > mid jan 2006. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most > > > > > but with the > > > > > > number > > > > > > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than > > > > > income. Expenses > > > > > > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing > > > > > which is > > > > > > causing > > > > > > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with > > > > > regard to job > > > > > change? > > > > > > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with > > > > > regard to job > > > > > despite > > > > > > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with > > > > > regard to > > > > > > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house > > > > > and the sarva > > > > > > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily > > > > > tell u about the > > > > > > > > reason for job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a > > > > > special law that > > > > > > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation > > > > > to the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception > > > > > in about dec > > > > > > 2004 > > > > > > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might > > > > > have had twins > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage > > > > > might have been in > > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months > > > > > difference. This > > > > > > gentleman > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change > > > > > can reflect > > > > > > large > > > > > > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying > > > > > the chart but > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career > > > > > etc I am sure > > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > who studies this chart and want to practice > > > > > w.r.t career, > > > > > > finances > > > > > > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems > > > > > in Guru antra > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > quite possible u might have faced some > > > > > challenges w.r.t > > > > > > > debt/higher > > > > > > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to > > > > > income in Rahu > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied > > > > > closely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " GOPAL " > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last > > > > > 3 years or so. > > > > > > > > Severe > > > > > > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good > > > > > otherwise, Can > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > > > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > > > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > > > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since > > > > > then. > > > > > > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > > > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > > > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Dear Gopal, Simple math. Ju, Ma and Sa have 3 sights. If u have read further u will know that if a planet has more than 4 bindus then its sight will be malefic. Say Ju has 7 bindus and its in lagna then it will aspect 9th, 7th and 5th house with -7 bindus. So here Ju is good for 1 house or say Benefic, but that the same time it will spoil 3 houses. Once u get to the creation of WS u will start to see so many things are done to get to those numbers. Similarly the case with Ma and Sa too. Again when planets are in their unccha sign then their Multiplcation factor is More (Lesson 26 I beleive). So their aspect might be even more harsh (Quality). Just see Prabhu Ramchandraji's chart. He had Guru and Moon in lagna and so many unccha planets. Cancer lagan. So Guru was unccha and as 6th lord it aspected 9th, 7th and 5th. Yes, it made Sri Ram a Mahapurush (Guru and Moon in unccha and Moon in own sign) but at the cost (Malefic dristi) of 9th (father), 7th (wife) and 5th (child) and it did that by destroying those house means his father died when he left for vanvas, he lost sita after agni pariksha and his children luv and kush too were born in his absence (if memory serves me right). When there are too many unccha planets , MT, Own Sign then the status of such a chart goes down. Such a person may get things but they will be at a high cost. Yes, what I have said above might be opposite of the generally accepted norms, but just study charts of people with many planets in own/unccha/mt signs and then use WS and explore. Every coin has 2 sides. Don't just look at one side. Cheers !!! Ash , " GOPAL " <gopal_ks wrote: > > I've just started learning this system. So pardon my ignorance. > > Benefic planets are ones with more than 4 bindus per KAS > > Just like anyone else, checked out mine first. Found out that not a > single planent with more than 4 bindus in my chart. > > With not a single benefic planet, how could I've achieved fairly > good life at a young age (education, decent job, marriage, kids, > house etc., within age 30); > > Thanks, > Gopal > > , " GOPAL " > <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > Thanks everyone for their contribution. I feel excited about KAS > > techniques and working on learning it. > > > > Thanks, > > Gopal > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, Gopal and list members, Namaskar, > > > Thanks Ash for encouragements. It is you only who teach us the > > system. By virtue of your good guidance I think I can pick up and > > become your followers. Thanks once again.Let me proceed further > for > > future symtomps.Native is going through Sat antara from 05 Jun > 2006 > > till 10 Apr 2009.Sat is FK for 11th and 12th house and situated in > > the second from 11th house.What circumstances may take place.Sat > is > > LoD for 9th house of luck and 10th house of authority > respectively. > > He is LoE for 1st house and 2nd house.Sat also aignifies third and > > seventh house by its placement in 12th house.It means Sat > signifies > > houses 1st,2nd,3rd,7th,9th and 10th..Sat is very powerful in all > > these houses No doubt native may earn but side by side his > > expenditure will go more than his income. Reason being Sat is > having > > more point in 12th house of expenses than that of 11th house of > > income.Secondly Sat is weak in 4th house of income. > > > At present Sat is transiting in Karka where he has only three > > points and Jup is transiting in Libra who also has 3 > > points.Therefore Jup and Sat total amounts come to only six which > is > > less than eight.Since total transit points of these two planets > are > > less, they may give the difficulties , worries and the result may > > be unfavourable. Sat moves in Leo on 19 Oct 06 and Jup remains in > > Libra the total points during this transition are seven still less > > than eight But on 23 Oct 06 Jup moves into Scorpio then their > > combine point raise to total nine which is a favourable oppotunity > > for the native Therefore whenever transit of Sat and Jup brings > the > > total more than eight point native may get the favourable result > in > > respect of his income. Will continue. Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra. > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, Gopal and List Members, > > > Well done. You have found out the issues. > > > > > > Ju current antra has less power in 6th house and 11th vs 12th > > > comparision. 12th house points of Ju in WS is more than 11th > > > points. So its quiet clear. > > > > > > Things like Ju being in 10th house with 4 bindus and in 32 > bindus > > > house means more than 28 can't blindly mean that Ju antra will > be > > > good. Such things can be misleading. Yes say if lagna was > Libra > > > then that might become an exception. Here Ju would become LoD > for > > > 6th and LoE for 10th or Say if Capricorn was the lagna in that > > case > > > Ju might become LoE for 10th so it might be good for authority > > (10th > > > house) and that time we must see power of 6th etc etc etc. > > > > > > Another point you have given clearly too. > > > > > > Let study since start of Gopals career how this trend has been > as > > > Gopal has clearly said that he never had any savings despite > good > > > income. > > > > > > He started his career in 2000 before that it was more education > > > geared. That might be Venus antra. In Venus antra 12th poitns > > are > > > more than 11th in WS with 11th house showing 11. So more > expenses > > > than income. > > > > > > Next came Sun antra. Sun has 21 points in 11th and 14 in 12th. > > So > > > here some savings but Sun antra is small only 4 months. > > > > > > Next came Moon in Mars AD. Moon has 14 points in 11th vs 19 > > points > > > in 12th. So more expenses than income again. So no savings or > > some > > > savings that were there in Sun antra were spent in Moon antra. > > > > > > After that Came Rahu. Rahu is SD to Venus. Venus again has 11 > > > points in 11th house and 16 points in 12th. AGain its showing > > more > > > expenses than income. This is in Rahu MD. > > > > > > Now Gopal is in Guru antra in Rahu MD. Guru has 18 points in > 11th > > > and 20 points in 12th at the same time it has 9 points in 6th > > house > > > and its SD to sun who is in 2nd house with 4 bindus so it will > > also > > > give worries. MF of Jupiter is also 0.5 as its in sign of enemy. > > > > > > All the points in 12th house (of pleasures or as we call it > Moksh) > > > are good. All points of 7th, 4th (except for Sa) are all good. > > > Most of the power of power of planets in WS are good. > > > > > > DBCE pooints are in ascending order so Gopal if working cannot > be > > > happy with just an ordinary post. He needs more space or a post > > > wherein he can direct how work is done like a high post in a > > company > > > or CEO or he will eventually do his own business. > > > > > > Also here more expense as compared to expense is there so that > > might > > > be the driving factor too. > > > > > > Let us see how things pan out for Gopal in the future. > > > > > > In Mars and Moon antra more worries or say less authorty type of > > > jobs will be experienced. Ketu is also SD to Mars so similar > > > experience in KEtu too. > > > > > > Other facts about intellegence etc are correct. Gopal has more > > > sectors of Mars and Mercury i.e. lagna , sun and moon in > navamsa, > > > drekkhana and trishansa. He might be daring and will take > risks. > > > > > > Good attempt and congratz Ramesh, on your finding the root cause > > of > > > such things. If one follows what is given in standard texts on > > > Ashtakvarg then he might be under impression that Jupiter being > in > > > 10th house in 32 bindu house with netural power might be good > for > > > career in all cases which as per this example is not accurate. > > > Infact the only antra that will cause problems and lack of > > happiness > > > of 6th house is Guru. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar, > > > > I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in my > > hand.As > > > is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and Moon is > > > 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is > > 27:27:36:30 > > > in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and Moon > > the > > > native is ready to take risk in life. > > > > No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native lacks > > > sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is in Me > > > divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second house. > > Lesson > > > 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always gives > some > > > obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and he > > > occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24 points > in > > > 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of Sat > is > > > more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of > income. > > > > Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is very > > > weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th (20) > than > > > that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes up to > > > Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu is SD > to > > > Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th house > than > > > that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be there > > for > > > native. > > > > Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan karak and > > > 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies dhansthaan.Similarly > > Jup > > > is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job and > he > > > too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This Jup and > > 6th > > > lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak and > > bhagya > > > karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ). > > > > I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit in > this > > > chart. > > > > Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house is > > less > > > than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a good > > income > > > compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th than > the > > 36 > > > in 11th house. In WS also Jup in 10th house has 17 points than > the > > > 18 in 11th house.Though it is almost equal. > > > > Sir please check up my readings so far whether I am inline > or > > > some improvemetns is needed. I will advance further for > occupation > > > only after listening my approach from you. As per this chart > > Native > > > should do a business of Saturn related matters. Awaiting for > your > > > guidance.Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > GOPAL <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > More data for further analysis > > > > > > > > 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income > > > > 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000 but the > > > actual > > > > marriage took place on june-11-2001; > > > > 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998 > > > > 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003 > > > > 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from june- 1998 > > to > > > nov- > > > > -2000. > > > > 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst (programmer) > > and > > > > working since then nov2000 to now. > > > > 7) relocated within the company to texas from wisconsin on > april- > > > 30- > > > > 2005. > > > > 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and expenses, > > but > > > > feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > , Ash > <ashsam73@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the current > > > antra > > > > Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running. > > > > > > > > > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra. If > 12th > > > is > > > > more than 11th then it means that the native is facing more > > > expenses > > > > than income. > > > > > > > > > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats happening > on > > > the > > > > job front. > > > > > > > > > > So if the native is facing problems in job then check the > > job > > > > related houses and the power of the planets in WS for that > > antra. > > > > Check the next antra to see what will happen going forward and > > the > > > > points of planets w.r.t. job related house. > > > > > > > > > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra that > > Gopal > > > is > > > > in? > > > > > > > > > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of > that? > > > > > > > > > > Check the natives brilliance of the native ? > > > > > > > > > > Check the career giving planets and ask the native in > which > > > field > > > > is he in? Say the career givign planets are Venus, Venus, > Venus > > > > i.e .from 10th lords from lagna sun and moon and they are in > > > navamsa > > > > of Venus. If such a person is put in a mechanical enginnering > > > shop > > > > floor he might be happy and he might eventually change his > field > > > to > > > > somewhere where he can use his artistic knowledge and flourish. > > > > > > > > > > Get an idea on the nature and capability of the person. > > > > > > > > > > SAV is for overall result, but WS is giving us power in > > > specific > > > > antras. > > > > > > > > > > So if 11th vs 12th points in SAV in 11th is more than 12th > > > then > > > > the person will have savings in his life, but what is > happening > > in > > > a > > > > particular antra we can see from WS. > > > > > > > > > > These are somethings I can check off the top of my head. > > Yes, > > > I > > > > am not dwleving into transit of Sa and Ju planets etc but u > can > > > get > > > > into that slowly. > > > > > > > > > > So ask question but first make sure u get full idea of the > > > native > > > > and his nature and the chart will reflect that. > > > > > > > > > > Again go through the lessons closely if u are stuck up. > > > > > > > > > > Try again using the above hints. But in general Gopal > > asked, > > > Ju > > > > is in 10th house with 4 bindus and its in a house with 32 > bindus > > > then > > > > how come he is facing issues in job or unable to find a better > > > job? > > > > > > > > > > I beleive the understanding of Gopal is that if a planet > is > > in > > > > 10th house and with netural bindus and if its in a house with > 32 > > > > points must mean that it should be good for job and career but > > > facts > > > > are not reflecting the same? > > > > > > > > > > This is also what many people having limited knowledge of > > > > Ashtakvarg which is found in books might also have. So here u > > can > > > > clear their doubts and give concrete results based on firm > > grounds > > > on > > > > the importance of KAS in timing of event. > > > > > > > > > > Try again Ramesh, I have full confidence that u can just > > look > > > at > > > > the WS and tell Gopal about his job and issues faced there in > > and > > > > more expense than income. > > > > > > > > > > Other list members can also attempt the same who are more > > > > experienced with KAS. > > > > > l > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > My Dear Ash, Namaskar, > > > > > Sorry for overlooking the relationship between > > > > > lagnalord and 9th lord.Before checking the chart I was > > > > > checking that relationship but somehow missed it.Then > > > > > I checked up in navamsa. Yes Sir, you are right both > > > > > the lords are in karak sthaan thus nullifying the > > > > > delay.and marriage is timely. > > > > > Whereas expenditure should be less than his income as > > > > > per SAV points in 11th and 12 house.Points in 12th > > > > > house is less than that of 11th house His 12th house > > > > > points and 10th house points are same and 11th house > > > > > point is 32 which is more than that of 10th and > > > > > 11th(30 points each).His DBCE from lagna is also in > > > > > increasing order but this is not for > > > > > expenditure.However chart is not before me so at > > > > > present i can't see the planets contribution for 11th > > > > > and 12th house from WS.Let you know next day. > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > --- ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > Very good that atleast you have first begun to check > > > > > the authenticity > > > > > of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins > > > > > difference. > > > > > Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had > > > > > asked me to be > > > > > thorough and make full effort to first make sure of > > > > > birth time before > > > > > venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very > > > > > noble science > > > > > and its not a joke. > > > > > I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check > > > > > some events. > > > > > Yes, you found that something was amiss here. > > > > > > > > > > You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that > > > > > 9th lord has > > > > > gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak > > > > > sthan. So that > > > > > might play some part in reducing delay. > > > > > > > > > > Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The > > > > > antra before that > > > > > in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power > > > > > and is LoE. > > > > > > > > > > The birth time is in ball park i feel however there > > > > > might be slight > > > > > difference in time. > > > > > > > > > > I do not know when this marriage was fixed either. > > > > > Sometimes there > > > > > can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat > > > > > that might case > > > > > delays. > > > > > > > > > > Here if Gopal can give more details on when the > > > > > marriage was fixed > > > > > and we know when it was performed. In that case > > > > > things will get > > > > > sorted out. > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp > > > > > than income. Are > > > > > u able to see that in the WS? > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, > > > > > > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo > > > > > navamsa.KAY is > > > > > 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness > > > > > of the chart. > > > > > Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its > > > > > authenticity. However > > > > > marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. > > > > > Rahu is SD to Nk > > > > > of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. > > > > > > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of > > > > > B. It occupies > > > > > house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself > > > > > LoB also. In > > > > > navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th > > > > > lord from House > > > > > 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual > > > > > marriage was > > > > > performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal > > > > > according to > > > > > Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be > > > > > checked. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins > > > > > conceived in Jan > > > > > 2005 > > > > > > or Jan 2006? > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and > > > > > cast your chart > > > > > > using KAY. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not > > > > > use Prati antar > > > > > > Dasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready > > > > > reference so > > > > > > that members attempting your chart, their analysis > > > > > using KAS you > > > > > can > > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " GOPAL " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > > > > > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > > > > > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in > > > > > mid jan 2006. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most > > > > > but with the > > > > > > number > > > > > > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than > > > > > income. Expenses > > > > > > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing > > > > > which is > > > > > > causing > > > > > > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with > > > > > regard to job > > > > > change? > > > > > > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with > > > > > regard to job > > > > > despite > > > > > > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with > > > > > regard to > > > > > > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house > > > > > and the sarva > > > > > > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily > > > > > tell u about the > > > > > > > > reason for job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a > > > > > special law that > > > > > > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation > > > > > to the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception > > > > > in about dec > > > > > > 2004 > > > > > > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might > > > > > have had twins > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage > > > > > might have been in > > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months > > > > > difference. This > > > > > > gentleman > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change > > > > > can reflect > > > > > > large > > > > > > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying > > > > > the chart but > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career > > > > > etc I am sure > > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > who studies this chart and want to practice > > > > > w.r.t career, > > > > > > finances > > > > > > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems > > > > > in Guru antra > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > quite possible u might have faced some > > > > > challenges w.r.t > > > > > > > debt/higher > > > > > > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to > > > > > income in Rahu > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied > > > > > closely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > " GOPAL " > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last > > > > > 3 years or so. > > > > > > > > Severe > > > > > > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good > > > > > otherwise, Can > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > > > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > > > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > > > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since > > > > > then. > > > > > > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > > > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > > > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Thanks Ash. I like that approach of yours in seeking and imparting knowledge to others. Even though life has been fairly happy and successful for me, I've only got each one of those aspects with frustration, struggle and delay; Definitely there is an answer to that in the KAS system. Hopefully in future, I can contribute to the forum like how you do today. I like to emulate good things of others. Thanks Gopal , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Jagdish, > You wrote > " So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a wonderful > life instead > of planets with less than 4 points, you will start enjoying the > blessing you > got. > > But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad idea > about your > life. > " > > Ash: Please do not dissuade Gopal or Others from their exploration. > Let people have doubts and that is good. Accepting anything blindly > is of no use. > > Without having doubts one cannot clear those doubts and in the > process of doing so they will learn a lot. > > For your information, Ashtakvarg is not a subject to give broad idea > on life. It's very precice and very scientific. > > Again to understand that u have to spend a lot of time and study > hard and with dedication. > > Then after a few decades of sincere studies and solving thousands > and thousands of charts using KAS, u will not pass such casual > remark on this Jyotish Shastra. > > Someone has said that Failure is a stepping stone to success so why > stop people especially from gaining knowledge? > > No one learns to walk without falling a few times...... > > If you can help someone using your knowledge, you are more than > welcome, and in doing so u will only gain more knowedge, but please > do not stop anyone from probing or trying to clear their doubts. > Who knows tomorrow the same doubts will be raised by other new > commers and at that time their journey to clear their doubt, and by > sharing such knowledge will help others. > > So Gopal, go ahead, and have as many doubts as u can, and if I may, > do not accept anything blindly. Work hard with dedication, and all > your doubts can /will be solved in due course of time. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Prathamesn Chawan > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > Dear Gopal, > > > > As far i came to know about astrology (not from KAS but from > other group), there is no hard and fast rule. A person having many > good planets in 10th house can live the life of a hermit (Lord > Budha) and a person having many bad yogas can live the life of a > king (Osho). > > > > Rishi Parashara made few rules. New astrologers made few other > rules. Sometimes these rule contradict and exactly oppose each other. > > > > If astrologer says that this period of time is going to be > painful. Then how painful ? Having a headache is quite painful and > losing someone's part of body is also painful. > > > > I guess astrology gives a very broad idea but sometimes it works > and sometimes it complete failure. There are so many complication in > a horoscope that a person who is reading someone's chart must be > very very and very intelligent. And nothing should skip from his > eyes. And not only this, sometimes in a horscope there are > contradicting yogas. Now what an astrolgoer can do in this case ? > > > > It is very appreciative that you have gained so much in life and > almost living life happily. Till you have 'peace of mind' keep on > enjoying it as you will never know when the bad time will start. > > > > When first bad thing will happen in your life, you will take it > easy. Then second bad accident happen to you, you will struggle and > will try to beat it. Then third bad thing will happen in your life > and will be surprized and will start praying to God for peace. On > fourth bad accident, you will cry but will not lose the faith in > God. On 5th accident, you will become kind of 'revolting person' > somewhat like cursing ' God'. On 6th accident, you will start > crying and laughing at the same time but you will still pray to the > God for some divine help but nothing will happen. Tears will come, > you will pray to God but nothing will change and then there will be > the next morning..... > > > > ( it is not for you. I am just telling a general idea and how i > reacted on each accident) > > > > I guess i said too much......... > > > > So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a > wonderful life instead of planets with less than 4 points, you will > start enjoying the blessing you got. > > > > But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad > idea about your life. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Jagdish > > > > GOPAL <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > I've just started learning this system. So pardon my ignorance. > > > > Benefic planets are ones with more than 4 bindus per KAS > > > > Just like anyone else, checked out mine first. Found out that not > a > > single planent with more than 4 bindus in my chart. > > > > With not a single benefic planet, how could I've achieved fairly > > good life at a young age (education, decent job, marriage, kids, > > house etc., within age 30); > > > > Thanks, > > Gopal > > > > , " GOPAL " > > <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks everyone for their contribution. I feel excited about KAS > > > techniques and working on learning it. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Gopal and list members, Namaskar, > > > > Thanks Ash for encouragements. It is you only who teach us > the > > > system. By virtue of your good guidance I think I can pick up > and > > > become your followers. Thanks once again.Let me proceed further > > for > > > future symtomps.Native is going through Sat antara from 05 Jun > > 2006 > > > till 10 Apr 2009.Sat is FK for 11th and 12th house and situated > in > > > the second from 11th house.What circumstances may take place.Sat > > is > > > LoD for 9th house of luck and 10th house of authority > > respectively. > > > He is LoE for 1st house and 2nd house.Sat also aignifies third > and > > > seventh house by its placement in 12th house.It means Sat > > signifies > > > houses 1st,2nd,3rd,7th,9th and 10th..Sat is very powerful in all > > > these houses No doubt native may earn but side by side his > > > expenditure will go more than his income. Reason being Sat is > > having > > > more point in 12th house of expenses than that of 11th house of > > > income.Secondly Sat is weak in 4th house of income. > > > > At present Sat is transiting in Karka where he has only > three > > > points and Jup is transiting in Libra who also has 3 > > > points.Therefore Jup and Sat total amounts come to only six > which > > is > > > less than eight.Since total transit points of these two planets > > are > > > less, they may give the difficulties , worries and the result > may > > > be unfavourable. Sat moves in Leo on 19 Oct 06 and Jup remains > in > > > Libra the total points during this transition are seven still > less > > > than eight But on 23 Oct 06 Jup moves into Scorpio then their > > > combine point raise to total nine which is a favourable > oppotunity > > > for the native Therefore whenever transit of Sat and Jup brings > > the > > > total more than eight point native may get the favourable result > > in > > > respect of his income. Will continue. Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, Gopal and List Members, > > > > Well done. You have found out the issues. > > > > > > > > Ju current antra has less power in 6th house and 11th vs 12th > > > > comparision. 12th house points of Ju in WS is more than 11th > > > > points. So its quiet clear. > > > > > > > > Things like Ju being in 10th house with 4 bindus and in 32 > > bindus > > > > house means more than 28 can't blindly mean that Ju antra will > > be > > > > good. Such things can be misleading. Yes say if lagna was > > Libra > > > > then that might become an exception. Here Ju would become LoD > > for > > > > 6th and LoE for 10th or Say if Capricorn was the lagna in that > > > case > > > > Ju might become LoE for 10th so it might be good for authority > > > (10th > > > > house) and that time we must see power of 6th etc etc etc. > > > > > > > > Another point you have given clearly too. > > > > > > > > Let study since start of Gopals career how this trend has been > > as > > > > Gopal has clearly said that he never had any savings despite > > good > > > > income. > > > > > > > > He started his career in 2000 before that it was more > education > > > > geared. That might be Venus antra. In Venus antra 12th > poitns > > > are > > > > more than 11th in WS with 11th house showing 11. So more > > expenses > > > > than income. > > > > > > > > Next came Sun antra. Sun has 21 points in 11th and 14 in > 12th. > > > So > > > > here some savings but Sun antra is small only 4 months. > > > > > > > > Next came Moon in Mars AD. Moon has 14 points in 11th vs 19 > > > points > > > > in 12th. So more expenses than income again. So no savings > or > > > some > > > > savings that were there in Sun antra were spent in Moon antra. > > > > > > > > After that Came Rahu. Rahu is SD to Venus. Venus again has > 11 > > > > points in 11th house and 16 points in 12th. AGain its showing > > > more > > > > expenses than income. This is in Rahu MD. > > > > > > > > Now Gopal is in Guru antra in Rahu MD. Guru has 18 points in > > 11th > > > > and 20 points in 12th at the same time it has 9 points in 6th > > > house > > > > and its SD to sun who is in 2nd house with 4 bindus so it will > > > also > > > > give worries. MF of Jupiter is also 0.5 as its in sign of > enemy. > > > > > > > > All the points in 12th house (of pleasures or as we call it > > Moksh) > > > > are good. All points of 7th, 4th (except for Sa) are all > good. > > > > Most of the power of power of planets in WS are good. > > > > > > > > DBCE pooints are in ascending order so Gopal if working cannot > > be > > > > happy with just an ordinary post. He needs more space or a > post > > > > wherein he can direct how work is done like a high post in a > > > company > > > > or CEO or he will eventually do his own business. > > > > > > > > Also here more expense as compared to expense is there so that > > > might > > > > be the driving factor too. > > > > > > > > Let us see how things pan out for Gopal in the future. > > > > > > > > In Mars and Moon antra more worries or say less authorty type > of > > > > jobs will be experienced. Ketu is also SD to Mars so similar > > > > experience in KEtu too. > > > > > > > > Other facts about intellegence etc are correct. Gopal has > more > > > > sectors of Mars and Mercury i.e. lagna , sun and moon in > > navamsa, > > > > drekkhana and trishansa. He might be daring and will take > > risks. > > > > > > > > Good attempt and congratz Ramesh, on your finding the root > cause > > > of > > > > such things. If one follows what is given in standard texts > on > > > > Ashtakvarg then he might be under impression that Jupiter > being > > in > > > > 10th house in 32 bindu house with netural power might be good > > for > > > > career in all cases which as per this example is not > accurate. > > > > Infact the only antra that will cause problems and lack of > > > happiness > > > > of 6th house is Guru. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar, > > > > > I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in my > > > hand.As > > > > is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and Moon > is > > > > 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is > > > 27:27:36:30 > > > > in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and > Moon > > > the > > > > native is ready to take risk in life. > > > > > No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native lacks > > > > sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is in > Me > > > > divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second house. > > > Lesson > > > > 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always gives > > some > > > > obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and he > > > > occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24 points > > in > > > > 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of > Sat > > is > > > > more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of > > income. > > > > > Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is > very > > > > weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th (20) > > than > > > > that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes up > to > > > > Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu is > SD > > to > > > > Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th house > > than > > > > that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be > there > > > for > > > > native. > > > > > Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan karak > and > > > > 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies > dhansthaan.Similarly > > > Jup > > > > is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job > and > > he > > > > too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This Jup > and > > > 6th > > > > lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak and > > > bhagya > > > > karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ). > > > > > I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit in > > this > > > > chart. > > > > > Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house is > > > less > > > > than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a good > > > income > > > > compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th than > > the > > > 36 > > > > in 11th house. In WS also Jup in 10th house has 17 points than > > the > > > > 18 in 11th house.Though it is almost equal. > > > > > Sir please check up my readings so far whether I am inline > > or > > > > some improvemetns is needed. I will advance further for > > occupation > > > > only after listening my approach from you. As per this chart > > > Native > > > > should do a business of Saturn related matters. Awaiting for > > your > > > > guidance.Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > GOPAL <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > > More data for further analysis > > > > > > > > > > 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income > > > > > 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000 but the > > > > actual > > > > > marriage took place on june-11-2001; > > > > > 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998 > > > > > 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003 > > > > > 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from june- > 1998 > > > to > > > > nov- > > > > > -2000. > > > > > 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst > (programmer) > > > and > > > > > working since then nov2000 to now. > > > > > 7) relocated within the company to texas from wisconsin on > > april- > > > > 30- > > > > > 2005. > > > > > 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and > expenses, > > > but > > > > > feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > <ashsam73@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the > current > > > > antra > > > > > Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra. If > > 12th > > > > is > > > > > more than 11th then it means that the native is facing more > > > > expenses > > > > > than income. > > > > > > > > > > > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats > happening > > on > > > > the > > > > > job front. > > > > > > > > > > > > So if the native is facing problems in job then check > the > > > job > > > > > related houses and the power of the planets in WS for that > > > antra. > > > > > Check the next antra to see what will happen going forward > and > > > the > > > > > points of planets w.r.t. job related house. > > > > > > > > > > > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra that > > > Gopal > > > > is > > > > > in? > > > > > > > > > > > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of > > that? > > > > > > > > > > > > Check the natives brilliance of the native ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Check the career giving planets and ask the native in > > which > > > > field > > > > > is he in? Say the career givign planets are Venus, Venus, > > Venus > > > > > i.e .from 10th lords from lagna sun and moon and they are in > > > > navamsa > > > > > of Venus. If such a person is put in a mechanical > enginnering > > > > shop > > > > > floor he might be happy and he might eventually change his > > field > > > > to > > > > > somewhere where he can use his artistic knowledge and > flourish. > > > > > > > > > > > > Get an idea on the nature and capability of the person. > > > > > > > > > > > > SAV is for overall result, but WS is giving us power in > > > > specific > > > > > antras. > > > > > > > > > > > > So if 11th vs 12th points in SAV in 11th is more than > 12th > > > > then > > > > > the person will have savings in his life, but what is > > happening > > > in > > > > a > > > > > particular antra we can see from WS. > > > > > > > > > > > > These are somethings I can check off the top of my > head. > > > Yes, > > > > I > > > > > am not dwleving into transit of Sa and Ju planets etc but u > > can > > > > get > > > > > into that slowly. > > > > > > > > > > > > So ask question but first make sure u get full idea of > the > > > > native > > > > > and his nature and the chart will reflect that. > > > > > > > > > > > > Again go through the lessons closely if u are stuck up. > > > > > > > > > > > > Try again using the above hints. But in general Gopal > > > asked, > > > > Ju > > > > > is in 10th house with 4 bindus and its in a house with 32 > > bindus > > > > then > > > > > how come he is facing issues in job or unable to find a > better > > > > job? > > > > > > > > > > > > I beleive the understanding of Gopal is that if a planet > > is > > > in > > > > > 10th house and with netural bindus and if its in a house > with > > 32 > > > > > points must mean that it should be good for job and career > but > > > > facts > > > > > are not reflecting the same? > > > > > > > > > > > > This is also what many people having limited knowledge > of > > > > > Ashtakvarg which is found in books might also have. So here > u > > > can > > > > > clear their doubts and give concrete results based on firm > > > grounds > > > > on > > > > > the importance of KAS in timing of event. > > > > > > > > > > > > Try again Ramesh, I have full confidence that u can just > > > look > > > > at > > > > > the WS and tell Gopal about his job and issues faced there > in > > > and > > > > > more expense than income. > > > > > > > > > > > > Other list members can also attempt the same who are > more > > > > > experienced with KAS. > > > > > > l > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > My Dear Ash, Namaskar, > > > > > > Sorry for overlooking the relationship between > > > > > > lagnalord and 9th lord.Before checking the chart I was > > > > > > checking that relationship but somehow missed it.Then > > > > > > I checked up in navamsa. Yes Sir, you are right both > > > > > > the lords are in karak sthaan thus nullifying the > > > > > > delay.and marriage is timely. > > > > > > Whereas expenditure should be less than his income as > > > > > > per SAV points in 11th and 12 house.Points in 12th > > > > > > house is less than that of 11th house His 12th house > > > > > > points and 10th house points are same and 11th house > > > > > > point is 32 which is more than that of 10th and > > > > > > 11th(30 points each).His DBCE from lagna is also in > > > > > > increasing order but this is not for > > > > > > expenditure.However chart is not before me so at > > > > > > present i can't see the planets contribution for 11th > > > > > > and 12th house from WS.Let you know next day. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > --- ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > Very good that atleast you have first begun to check > > > > > > the authenticity > > > > > > of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins > > > > > > difference. > > > > > > Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had > > > > > > asked me to be > > > > > > thorough and make full effort to first make sure of > > > > > > birth time before > > > > > > venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very > > > > > > noble science > > > > > > and its not a joke. > > > > > > I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check > > > > > > some events. > > > > > > Yes, you found that something was amiss here. > > > > > > > > > > > > You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that > > > > > > 9th lord has > > > > > > gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak > > > > > > sthan. So that > > > > > > might play some part in reducing delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The > > > > > > antra before that > > > > > > in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power > > > > > > and is LoE. > > > > > > > > > > > > The birth time is in ball park i feel however there > > > > > > might be slight > > > > > > difference in time. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know when this marriage was fixed either. > > > > > > Sometimes there > > > > > > can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat > > > > > > that might case > > > > > > delays. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here if Gopal can give more details on when the > > > > > > marriage was fixed > > > > > > and we know when it was performed. In that case > > > > > > things will get > > > > > > sorted out. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp > > > > > > than income. Are > > > > > > u able to see that in the WS? > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, > > > > > > > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo > > > > > > navamsa.KAY is > > > > > > 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness > > > > > > of the chart. > > > > > > Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its > > > > > > authenticity. However > > > > > > marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. > > > > > > Rahu is SD to Nk > > > > > > of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. > > > > > > > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of > > > > > > B. It occupies > > > > > > house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself > > > > > > LoB also. In > > > > > > navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th > > > > > > lord from House > > > > > > 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual > > > > > > marriage was > > > > > > performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal > > > > > > according to > > > > > > Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be > > > > > > checked. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins > > > > > > conceived in Jan > > > > > > 2005 > > > > > > > or Jan 2006? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and > > > > > > cast your chart > > > > > > > using KAY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not > > > > > > use Prati antar > > > > > > > Dasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready > > > > > > reference so > > > > > > > that members attempting your chart, their analysis > > > > > > using KAS you > > > > > > can > > > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > " GOPAL " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > > > > > > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > > > > > > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in > > > > > > mid jan 2006. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most > > > > > > but with the > > > > > > > number > > > > > > > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than > > > > > > income. Expenses > > > > > > > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing > > > > > > which is > > > > > > > causing > > > > > > > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with > > > > > > regard to job > > > > > > change? > > > > > > > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with > > > > > > regard to job > > > > > > despite > > > > > > > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with > > > > > > regard to > > > > > > > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house > > > > > > and the sarva > > > > > > > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily > > > > > > tell u about the > > > > > > > > > reason for job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a > > > > > > special law that > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation > > > > > > to the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception > > > > > > in about dec > > > > > > > 2004 > > > > > > > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might > > > > > > have had twins > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage > > > > > > might have been in > > > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months > > > > > > difference. This > > > > > > > gentleman > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change > > > > > > can reflect > > > > > > > large > > > > > > > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying > > > > > > the chart but > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career > > > > > > etc I am sure > > > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > who studies this chart and want to practice > > > > > > w.r.t career, > > > > > > > finances > > > > > > > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems > > > > > > in Guru antra > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > quite possible u might have faced some > > > > > > challenges w.r.t > > > > > > > > debt/higher > > > > > > > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to > > > > > > income in Rahu > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied > > > > > > closely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > " GOPAL " > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last > > > > > > 3 years or so. > > > > > > > > > Severe > > > > > > > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good > > > > > > otherwise, Can > > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > > > > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > > > > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > > > > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since > > > > > > then. > > > > > > > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > > > > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > > > > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Dear Gopal, Namaskar, I have few dobts by seeing your chart. I want to clear those if you feed me back. You are educated and earning well still you are suffering financially.I want to know about your married life. I find from your chart that you have something problem with your married life. May be your spouse does not cooperate with you. You may not be satisfied with the behaviour of your wife.Most of the expenditure is being expent to satisfy her needs and her various requirements. Due to this expenses you are unable to fulfill your needs and requirements and thus you remain unsatisfied or something like that. I may be wrong also. But I need confirmation from you. It shall be helpful for me. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra GOPAL <gopal_ks wrote: Thanks Ash. I like that approach of yours in seeking and imparting knowledge to others. Even though life has been fairly happy and successful for me, I've only got each one of those aspects with frustration, struggle and delay; Definitely there is an answer to that in the KAS system. Hopefully in future, I can contribute to the forum like how you do today. I like to emulate good things of others. Thanks Gopal , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Jagdish, > You wrote > " So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a wonderful > life instead > of planets with less than 4 points, you will start enjoying the > blessing you > got. > > But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad idea > about your > life. > " > > Ash: Please do not dissuade Gopal or Others from their exploration. > Let people have doubts and that is good. Accepting anything blindly > is of no use. > > Without having doubts one cannot clear those doubts and in the > process of doing so they will learn a lot. > > For your information, Ashtakvarg is not a subject to give broad idea > on life. It's very precice and very scientific. > > Again to understand that u have to spend a lot of time and study > hard and with dedication. > > Then after a few decades of sincere studies and solving thousands > and thousands of charts using KAS, u will not pass such casual > remark on this Jyotish Shastra. > > Someone has said that Failure is a stepping stone to success so why > stop people especially from gaining knowledge? > > No one learns to walk without falling a few times...... > > If you can help someone using your knowledge, you are more than > welcome, and in doing so u will only gain more knowedge, but please > do not stop anyone from probing or trying to clear their doubts. > Who knows tomorrow the same doubts will be raised by other new > commers and at that time their journey to clear their doubt, and by > sharing such knowledge will help others. > > So Gopal, go ahead, and have as many doubts as u can, and if I may, > do not accept anything blindly. Work hard with dedication, and all > your doubts can /will be solved in due course of time. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Prathamesn Chawan > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > Dear Gopal, > > > > As far i came to know about astrology (not from KAS but from > other group), there is no hard and fast rule. A person having many > good planets in 10th house can live the life of a hermit (Lord > Budha) and a person having many bad yogas can live the life of a > king (Osho). > > > > Rishi Parashara made few rules. New astrologers made few other > rules. Sometimes these rule contradict and exactly oppose each other. > > > > If astrologer says that this period of time is going to be > painful. Then how painful ? Having a headache is quite painful and > losing someone's part of body is also painful. > > > > I guess astrology gives a very broad idea but sometimes it works > and sometimes it complete failure. There are so many complication in > a horoscope that a person who is reading someone's chart must be > very very and very intelligent. And nothing should skip from his > eyes. And not only this, sometimes in a horscope there are > contradicting yogas. Now what an astrolgoer can do in this case ? > > > > It is very appreciative that you have gained so much in life and > almost living life happily. Till you have 'peace of mind' keep on > enjoying it as you will never know when the bad time will start. > > > > When first bad thing will happen in your life, you will take it > easy. Then second bad accident happen to you, you will struggle and > will try to beat it. Then third bad thing will happen in your life > and will be surprized and will start praying to God for peace. On > fourth bad accident, you will cry but will not lose the faith in > God. On 5th accident, you will become kind of 'revolting person' > somewhat like cursing ' God'. On 6th accident, you will start > crying and laughing at the same time but you will still pray to the > God for some divine help but nothing will happen. Tears will come, > you will pray to God but nothing will change and then there will be > the next morning..... > > > > ( it is not for you. I am just telling a general idea and how i > reacted on each accident) > > > > I guess i said too much......... > > > > So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a > wonderful life instead of planets with less than 4 points, you will > start enjoying the blessing you got. > > > > But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad > idea about your life. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Jagdish > > > > GOPAL <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > I've just started learning this system. So pardon my ignorance. > > > > Benefic planets are ones with more than 4 bindus per KAS > > > > Just like anyone else, checked out mine first. Found out that not > a > > single planent with more than 4 bindus in my chart. > > > > With not a single benefic planet, how could I've achieved fairly > > good life at a young age (education, decent job, marriage, kids, > > house etc., within age 30); > > > > Thanks, > > Gopal > > > > , " GOPAL " > > <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks everyone for their contribution. I feel excited about KAS > > > techniques and working on learning it. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Gopal and list members, Namaskar, > > > > Thanks Ash for encouragements. It is you only who teach us > the > > > system. By virtue of your good guidance I think I can pick up > and > > > become your followers. Thanks once again.Let me proceed further > > for > > > future symtomps.Native is going through Sat antara from 05 Jun > > 2006 > > > till 10 Apr 2009.Sat is FK for 11th and 12th house and situated > in > > > the second from 11th house.What circumstances may take place.Sat > > is > > > LoD for 9th house of luck and 10th house of authority > > respectively. > > > He is LoE for 1st house and 2nd house.Sat also aignifies third > and > > > seventh house by its placement in 12th house.It means Sat > > signifies > > > houses 1st,2nd,3rd,7th,9th and 10th..Sat is very powerful in all > > > these houses No doubt native may earn but side by side his > > > expenditure will go more than his income. Reason being Sat is > > having > > > more point in 12th house of expenses than that of 11th house of > > > income.Secondly Sat is weak in 4th house of income. > > > > At present Sat is transiting in Karka where he has only > three > > > points and Jup is transiting in Libra who also has 3 > > > points.Therefore Jup and Sat total amounts come to only six > which > > is > > > less than eight.Since total transit points of these two planets > > are > > > less, they may give the difficulties , worries and the result > may > > > be unfavourable. Sat moves in Leo on 19 Oct 06 and Jup remains > in > > > Libra the total points during this transition are seven still > less > > > than eight But on 23 Oct 06 Jup moves into Scorpio then their > > > combine point raise to total nine which is a favourable > oppotunity > > > for the native Therefore whenever transit of Sat and Jup brings > > the > > > total more than eight point native may get the favourable result > > in > > > respect of his income. Will continue. Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, Gopal and List Members, > > > > Well done. You have found out the issues. > > > > > > > > Ju current antra has less power in 6th house and 11th vs 12th > > > > comparision. 12th house points of Ju in WS is more than 11th > > > > points. So its quiet clear. > > > > > > > > Things like Ju being in 10th house with 4 bindus and in 32 > > bindus > > > > house means more than 28 can't blindly mean that Ju antra will > > be > > > > good. Such things can be misleading. Yes say if lagna was > > Libra > > > > then that might become an exception. Here Ju would become LoD > > for > > > > 6th and LoE for 10th or Say if Capricorn was the lagna in that > > > case > > > > Ju might become LoE for 10th so it might be good for authority > > > (10th > > > > house) and that time we must see power of 6th etc etc etc. > > > > > > > > Another point you have given clearly too. > > > > > > > > Let study since start of Gopals career how this trend has been > > as > > > > Gopal has clearly said that he never had any savings despite > > good > > > > income. > > > > > > > > He started his career in 2000 before that it was more > education > > > > geared. That might be Venus antra. In Venus antra 12th > poitns > > > are > > > > more than 11th in WS with 11th house showing 11. So more > > expenses > > > > than income. > > > > > > > > Next came Sun antra. Sun has 21 points in 11th and 14 in > 12th. > > > So > > > > here some savings but Sun antra is small only 4 months. > > > > > > > > Next came Moon in Mars AD. Moon has 14 points in 11th vs 19 > > > points > > > > in 12th. So more expenses than income again. So no savings > or > > > some > > > > savings that were there in Sun antra were spent in Moon antra. > > > > > > > > After that Came Rahu. Rahu is SD to Venus. Venus again has > 11 > > > > points in 11th house and 16 points in 12th. AGain its showing > > > more > > > > expenses than income. This is in Rahu MD. > > > > > > > > Now Gopal is in Guru antra in Rahu MD. Guru has 18 points in > > 11th > > > > and 20 points in 12th at the same time it has 9 points in 6th > > > house > > > > and its SD to sun who is in 2nd house with 4 bindus so it will > > > also > > > > give worries. MF of Jupiter is also 0.5 as its in sign of > enemy. > > > > > > > > All the points in 12th house (of pleasures or as we call it > > Moksh) > > > > are good. All points of 7th, 4th (except for Sa) are all > good. > > > > Most of the power of power of planets in WS are good. > > > > > > > > DBCE pooints are in ascending order so Gopal if working cannot > > be > > > > happy with just an ordinary post. He needs more space or a > post > > > > wherein he can direct how work is done like a high post in a > > > company > > > > or CEO or he will eventually do his own business. > > > > > > > > Also here more expense as compared to expense is there so that > > > might > > > > be the driving factor too. > > > > > > > > Let us see how things pan out for Gopal in the future. > > > > > > > > In Mars and Moon antra more worries or say less authorty type > of > > > > jobs will be experienced. Ketu is also SD to Mars so similar > > > > experience in KEtu too. > > > > > > > > Other facts about intellegence etc are correct. Gopal has > more > > > > sectors of Mars and Mercury i.e. lagna , sun and moon in > > navamsa, > > > > drekkhana and trishansa. He might be daring and will take > > risks. > > > > > > > > Good attempt and congratz Ramesh, on your finding the root > cause > > > of > > > > such things. If one follows what is given in standard texts > on > > > > Ashtakvarg then he might be under impression that Jupiter > being > > in > > > > 10th house in 32 bindu house with netural power might be good > > for > > > > career in all cases which as per this example is not > accurate. > > > > Infact the only antra that will cause problems and lack of > > > happiness > > > > of 6th house is Guru. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar, > > > > > I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in my > > > hand.As > > > > is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and Moon > is > > > > 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is > > > 27:27:36:30 > > > > in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and > Moon > > > the > > > > native is ready to take risk in life. > > > > > No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native lacks > > > > sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is in > Me > > > > divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second house. > > > Lesson > > > > 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always gives > > some > > > > obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and he > > > > occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24 points > > in > > > > 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of > Sat > > is > > > > more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of > > income. > > > > > Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is > very > > > > weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th (20) > > than > > > > that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes up > to > > > > Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu is > SD > > to > > > > Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th house > > than > > > > that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be > there > > > for > > > > native. > > > > > Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan karak > and > > > > 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies > dhansthaan.Similarly > > > Jup > > > > is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job > and > > he > > > > too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This Jup > and > > > 6th > > > > lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak and > > > bhagya > > > > karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ). > > > > > I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit in > > this > > > > chart. > > > > > Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house is > > > less > > > > than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a good > > > income > > > > compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th than > > the > > > 36 > > > > in 11th house. In WS also Jup in 10th house has 17 points than > > the > > > > 18 in 11th house.Though it is almost equal. > > > > > Sir please check up my readings so far whether I am inline > > or > > > > some improvemetns is needed. I will advance further for > > occupation > > > > only after listening my approach from you. As per this chart > > > Native > > > > should do a business of Saturn related matters. Awaiting for > > your > > > > guidance.Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > GOPAL <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > > More data for further analysis > > > > > > > > > > 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income > > > > > 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000 but the > > > > actual > > > > > marriage took place on june-11-2001; > > > > > 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998 > > > > > 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003 > > > > > 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from june- > 1998 > > > to > > > > nov- > > > > > -2000. > > > > > 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst > (programmer) > > > and > > > > > working since then nov2000 to now. > > > > > 7) relocated within the company to texas from wisconsin on > > april- > > > > 30- > > > > > 2005. > > > > > 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and > expenses, > > > but > > > > > feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > <ashsam73@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the > current > > > > antra > > > > > Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra. If > > 12th > > > > is > > > > > more than 11th then it means that the native is facing more > > > > expenses > > > > > than income. > > > > > > > > > > > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats > happening > > on > > > > the > > > > > job front. > > > > > > > > > > > > So if the native is facing problems in job then check > the > > > job > > > > > related houses and the power of the planets in WS for that > > > antra. > > > > > Check the next antra to see what will happen going forward > and > > > the > > > > > points of planets w.r.t. job related house. > > > > > > > > > > > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra that > > > Gopal > > > > is > > > > > in? > > > > > > > > > > > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of > > that? > > > > > > > > > > > > Check the natives brilliance of the native ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Check the career giving planets and ask the native in > > which > > > > field > > > > > is he in? Say the career givign planets are Venus, Venus, > > Venus > > > > > i.e .from 10th lords from lagna sun and moon and they are in > > > > navamsa > > > > > of Venus. If such a person is put in a mechanical > enginnering > > > > shop > > > > > floor he might be happy and he might eventually change his > > field > > > > to > > > > > somewhere where he can use his artistic knowledge and > flourish. > > > > > > > > > > > > Get an idea on the nature and capability of the person. > > > > > > > > > > > > SAV is for overall result, but WS is giving us power in > > > > specific > > > > > antras. > > > > > > > > > > > > So if 11th vs 12th points in SAV in 11th is more than > 12th > > > > then > > > > > the person will have savings in his life, but what is > > happening > > > in > > > > a > > > > > particular antra we can see from WS. > > > > > > > > > > > > These are somethings I can check off the top of my > head. > > > Yes, > > > > I > > > > > am not dwleving into transit of Sa and Ju planets etc but u > > can > > > > get > > > > > into that slowly. > > > > > > > > > > > > So ask question but first make sure u get full idea of > the > > > > native > > > > > and his nature and the chart will reflect that. > > > > > > > > > > > > Again go through the lessons closely if u are stuck up. > > > > > > > > > > > > Try again using the above hints. But in general Gopal > > > asked, > > > > Ju > > > > > is in 10th house with 4 bindus and its in a house with 32 > > bindus > > > > then > > > > > how come he is facing issues in job or unable to find a > better > > > > job? > > > > > > > > > > > > I beleive the understanding of Gopal is that if a planet > > is > > > in > > > > > 10th house and with netural bindus and if its in a house > with > > 32 > > > > > points must mean that it should be good for job and career > but > > > > facts > > > > > are not reflecting the same? > > > > > > > > > > > > This is also what many people having limited knowledge > of > > > > > Ashtakvarg which is found in books might also have. So here > u > > > can > > > > > clear their doubts and give concrete results based on firm > > > grounds > > > > on > > > > > the importance of KAS in timing of event. > > > > > > > > > > > > Try again Ramesh, I have full confidence that u can just > > > look > > > > at > > > > > the WS and tell Gopal about his job and issues faced there > in > > > and > > > > > more expense than income. > > > > > > > > > > > > Other list members can also attempt the same who are > more > > > > > experienced with KAS. > > > > > > l > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > My Dear Ash, Namaskar, > > > > > > Sorry for overlooking the relationship between > > > > > > lagnalord and 9th lord.Before checking the chart I was > > > > > > checking that relationship but somehow missed it.Then > > > > > > I checked up in navamsa. Yes Sir, you are right both > > > > > > the lords are in karak sthaan thus nullifying the > > > > > > delay.and marriage is timely. > > > > > > Whereas expenditure should be less than his income as > > > > > > per SAV points in 11th and 12 house.Points in 12th > > > > > > house is less than that of 11th house His 12th house > > > > > > points and 10th house points are same and 11th house > > > > > > point is 32 which is more than that of 10th and > > > > > > 11th(30 points each).His DBCE from lagna is also in > > > > > > increasing order but this is not for > > > > > > expenditure.However chart is not before me so at > > > > > > present i can't see the planets contribution for 11th > > > > > > and 12th house from WS.Let you know next day. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > --- ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > Very good that atleast you have first begun to check > > > > > > the authenticity > > > > > > of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins > > > > > > difference. > > > > > > Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had > > > > > > asked me to be > > > > > > thorough and make full effort to first make sure of > > > > > > birth time before > > > > > > venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very > > > > > > noble science > > > > > > and its not a joke. > > > > > > I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check > > > > > > some events. > > > > > > Yes, you found that something was amiss here. > > > > > > > > > > > > You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that > > > > > > 9th lord has > > > > > > gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak > > > > > > sthan. So that > > > > > > might play some part in reducing delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The > > > > > > antra before that > > > > > > in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power > > > > > > and is LoE. > > > > > > > > > > > > The birth time is in ball park i feel however there > > > > > > might be slight > > > > > > difference in time. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know when this marriage was fixed either. > > > > > > Sometimes there > > > > > > can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat > > > > > > that might case > > > > > > delays. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here if Gopal can give more details on when the > > > > > > marriage was fixed > > > > > > and we know when it was performed. In that case > > > > > > things will get > > > > > > sorted out. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp > > > > > > than income. Are > > > > > > u able to see that in the WS? > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, > > > > > > > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo > > > > > > navamsa.KAY is > > > > > > 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness > > > > > > of the chart. > > > > > > Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its > > > > > > authenticity. However > > > > > > marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. > > > > > > Rahu is SD to Nk > > > > > > of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. > > > > > > > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of > > > > > > B. It occupies > > > > > > house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself > > > > > > LoB also. In > > > > > > navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th > > > > > > lord from House > > > > > > 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual > > > > > > marriage was > > > > > > performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal > > > > > > according to > > > > > > Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be > > > > > > checked. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins > > > > > > conceived in Jan > > > > > > 2005 > > > > > > > or Jan 2006? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and > > > > > > cast your chart > > > > > > > using KAY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not > > > > > > use Prati antar > > > > > > > Dasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready > > > > > > reference so > > > > > > > that members attempting your chart, their analysis > > > > > > using KAS you > > > > > > can > > > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > " GOPAL " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > > > > > > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > > > > > > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in > > > > > > mid jan 2006. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most > > > > > > but with the > > > > > > > number > > > > > > > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than > > > > > > income. Expenses > > > > > > > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing > > > > > > which is > > > > > > > causing > > > > > > > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with > > > > > > regard to job > > > > > > change? > > > > > > > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with > > > > > > regard to job > > > > > > despite > > > > > > > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with > > > > > > regard to > > > > > > > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house > > > > > > and the sarva > > > > > > > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily > > > > > > tell u about the > > > > > > > > > reason for job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a > > > > > > special law that > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation > > > > > > to the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception > > > > > > in about dec > > > > > > > 2004 > > > > > > > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might > > > > > > have had twins > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage > > > > > > might have been in > > > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months > > > > > > difference. This > > > > > > > gentleman > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change > > > > > > can reflect > > > > > > > large > > > > > > > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying > > > > > > the chart but > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career > > > > > > etc I am sure > > > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > who studies this chart and want to practice > > > > > > w.r.t career, > > > > > > > finances > > > > > > > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems > > > > > > in Guru antra > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > quite possible u might have faced some > > > > > > challenges w.r.t > > > > > > > > debt/higher > > > > > > > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to > > > > > > income in Rahu > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied > > > > > > closely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > " GOPAL " > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last > > > > > > 3 years or so. > > > > > > > > > Severe > > > > > > > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good > > > > > > otherwise, Can > > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > > > > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > > > > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > > > > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since > > > > > > then. > > > > > > > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > > > > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > > > > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Hi Ramesh, That is a good question because 7th lord in 12th house prompts that question. I'm immensely satisfied with my wife and she is a very dedicated person who looks after me and my children very well. Basically, say an excellent marital life. I am attributing to Venus in several of its own divisional charts. Usually, I am treated very well by women at job also. Lot of our problem have stemmed from the unplanned pregnancies causing financial hazard. Like travelling to India and bringing folks here to look after babies. Expenses are because of education (we educated ourself very well on our own), kids, travel to India, travel of parents from India to US, and maintain a large house. Basically for good purposes. We did buy a house in oct-2003 and sold it in apr-2005 for small profit so that we could relocate to Dallas from Milwaukee. We bought another house in dallas may-2-2005. I've had decent gains in stock (mid-2002 to mid 2003). Both pregnancies were unplanned Wife: Dec-13-1979- 8.15PM (Chennai, India) 1) Daughter was born jan-12-2003 (4.06PM Milwaukee) 2) Twins(boy and then girl) - 9-27-2005 (10.25PM and 10.35PM at Frisco, TX) Thanks, Gopal , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Gopal, Namaskar, > I have few dobts by seeing your chart. I want to clear those if you feed me back. You are educated and earning well still you are suffering financially.I want to know about your married life. I find from your chart that you have something problem with your married life. May be your spouse does not cooperate with you. You may not be satisfied with the behaviour of your wife.Most of the expenditure is being expent to satisfy her needs and her various requirements. > Due to this expenses you are unable to fulfill your needs and requirements and thus you remain unsatisfied or something like that. I may be wrong also. But I need confirmation from you. It shall be helpful for me. Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > GOPAL <gopal_ks wrote: > Thanks Ash. I like that approach of yours in seeking and imparting > knowledge to others. > > Even though life has been fairly happy and successful for me, I've > only got each one of those aspects with frustration, struggle and > delay; Definitely there is an answer to that in the KAS system. > > Hopefully in future, I can contribute to the forum like how you do > today. I like to emulate good things of others. > > Thanks > Gopal > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Jagdish, > > You wrote > > " So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a > wonderful > > life instead > > of planets with less than 4 points, you will start enjoying the > > blessing you > > got. > > > > But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad > idea > > about your > > life. > > " > > > > Ash: Please do not dissuade Gopal or Others from their > exploration. > > Let people have doubts and that is good. Accepting anything > blindly > > is of no use. > > > > Without having doubts one cannot clear those doubts and in the > > process of doing so they will learn a lot. > > > > For your information, Ashtakvarg is not a subject to give broad > idea > > on life. It's very precice and very scientific. > > > > Again to understand that u have to spend a lot of time and study > > hard and with dedication. > > > > Then after a few decades of sincere studies and solving thousands > > and thousands of charts using KAS, u will not pass such casual > > remark on this Jyotish Shastra. > > > > Someone has said that Failure is a stepping stone to success so > why > > stop people especially from gaining knowledge? > > > > No one learns to walk without falling a few times...... > > > > If you can help someone using your knowledge, you are more than > > welcome, and in doing so u will only gain more knowedge, but > please > > do not stop anyone from probing or trying to clear their doubts. > > Who knows tomorrow the same doubts will be raised by other new > > commers and at that time their journey to clear their doubt, and > by > > sharing such knowledge will help others. > > > > So Gopal, go ahead, and have as many doubts as u can, and if I > may, > > do not accept anything blindly. Work hard with dedication, and > all > > your doubts can /will be solved in due course of time. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Prathamesn Chawan > > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gopal, > > > > > > As far i came to know about astrology (not from KAS but from > > other group), there is no hard and fast rule. A person having many > > good planets in 10th house can live the life of a hermit (Lord > > Budha) and a person having many bad yogas can live the life of a > > king (Osho). > > > > > > Rishi Parashara made few rules. New astrologers made few other > > rules. Sometimes these rule contradict and exactly oppose each > other. > > > > > > If astrologer says that this period of time is going to be > > painful. Then how painful ? Having a headache is quite painful and > > losing someone's part of body is also painful. > > > > > > I guess astrology gives a very broad idea but sometimes it > works > > and sometimes it complete failure. There are so many complication > in > > a horoscope that a person who is reading someone's chart must be > > very very and very intelligent. And nothing should skip from his > > eyes. And not only this, sometimes in a horscope there are > > contradicting yogas. Now what an astrolgoer can do in this case ? > > > > > > It is very appreciative that you have gained so much in life > and > > almost living life happily. Till you have 'peace of mind' keep on > > enjoying it as you will never know when the bad time will start. > > > > > > When first bad thing will happen in your life, you will take > it > > easy. Then second bad accident happen to you, you will struggle > and > > will try to beat it. Then third bad thing will happen in your life > > and will be surprized and will start praying to God for peace. On > > fourth bad accident, you will cry but will not lose the faith in > > God. On 5th accident, you will become kind of 'revolting person' > > somewhat like cursing ' God'. On 6th accident, you will start > > crying and laughing at the same time but you will still pray to > the > > God for some divine help but nothing will happen. Tears will come, > > you will pray to God but nothing will change and then there will > be > > the next morning..... > > > > > > ( it is not for you. I am just telling a general idea and how > i > > reacted on each accident) > > > > > > I guess i said too much......... > > > > > > So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a > > wonderful life instead of planets with less than 4 points, you > will > > start enjoying the blessing you got. > > > > > > But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad > > idea about your life. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Jagdish > > > > > > GOPAL <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > I've just started learning this system. So pardon my > ignorance. > > > > > > Benefic planets are ones with more than 4 bindus per KAS > > > > > > Just like anyone else, checked out mine first. Found out that > not > > a > > > single planent with more than 4 bindus in my chart. > > > > > > With not a single benefic planet, how could I've achieved fairly > > > good life at a young age (education, decent job, marriage, kids, > > > house etc., within age 30); > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Gopal > > > > > > , " GOPAL " > > > <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks everyone for their contribution. I feel excited about > KAS > > > > techniques and working on learning it. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Gopal and list members, Namaskar, > > > > > Thanks Ash for encouragements. It is you only who teach us > > the > > > > system. By virtue of your good guidance I think I can pick up > > and > > > > become your followers. Thanks once again.Let me proceed > further > > > for > > > > future symtomps.Native is going through Sat antara from 05 Jun > > > 2006 > > > > till 10 Apr 2009.Sat is FK for 11th and 12th house and > situated > > in > > > > the second from 11th house.What circumstances may take > place.Sat > > > is > > > > LoD for 9th house of luck and 10th house of authority > > > respectively. > > > > He is LoE for 1st house and 2nd house.Sat also aignifies third > > and > > > > seventh house by its placement in 12th house.It means Sat > > > signifies > > > > houses 1st,2nd,3rd,7th,9th and 10th..Sat is very powerful in > all > > > > these houses No doubt native may earn but side by side his > > > > expenditure will go more than his income. Reason being Sat is > > > having > > > > more point in 12th house of expenses than that of 11th house > of > > > > income.Secondly Sat is weak in 4th house of income. > > > > > At present Sat is transiting in Karka where he has only > > three > > > > points and Jup is transiting in Libra who also has 3 > > > > points.Therefore Jup and Sat total amounts come to only six > > which > > > is > > > > less than eight.Since total transit points of these two > planets > > > are > > > > less, they may give the difficulties , worries and the result > > may > > > > be unfavourable. Sat moves in Leo on 19 Oct 06 and Jup remains > > in > > > > Libra the total points during this transition are seven still > > less > > > > than eight But on 23 Oct 06 Jup moves into Scorpio then their > > > > combine point raise to total nine which is a favourable > > oppotunity > > > > for the native Therefore whenever transit of Sat and Jup > brings > > > the > > > > total more than eight point native may get the favourable > result > > > in > > > > respect of his income. Will continue. Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Gopal and List Members, > > > > > Well done. You have found out the issues. > > > > > > > > > > Ju current antra has less power in 6th house and 11th vs > 12th > > > > > comparision. 12th house points of Ju in WS is more than > 11th > > > > > points. So its quiet clear. > > > > > > > > > > Things like Ju being in 10th house with 4 bindus and in 32 > > > bindus > > > > > house means more than 28 can't blindly mean that Ju antra > will > > > be > > > > > good. Such things can be misleading. Yes say if lagna was > > > Libra > > > > > then that might become an exception. Here Ju would become > LoD > > > for > > > > > 6th and LoE for 10th or Say if Capricorn was the lagna in > that > > > > case > > > > > Ju might become LoE for 10th so it might be good for > authority > > > > (10th > > > > > house) and that time we must see power of 6th etc etc etc. > > > > > > > > > > Another point you have given clearly too. > > > > > > > > > > Let study since start of Gopals career how this trend has > been > > > as > > > > > Gopal has clearly said that he never had any savings despite > > > good > > > > > income. > > > > > > > > > > He started his career in 2000 before that it was more > > education > > > > > geared. That might be Venus antra. In Venus antra 12th > > poitns > > > > are > > > > > more than 11th in WS with 11th house showing 11. So more > > > expenses > > > > > than income. > > > > > > > > > > Next came Sun antra. Sun has 21 points in 11th and 14 in > > 12th. > > > > So > > > > > here some savings but Sun antra is small only 4 months. > > > > > > > > > > Next came Moon in Mars AD. Moon has 14 points in 11th vs 19 > > > > points > > > > > in 12th. So more expenses than income again. So no savings > > or > > > > some > > > > > savings that were there in Sun antra were spent in Moon > antra. > > > > > > > > > > After that Came Rahu. Rahu is SD to Venus. Venus again has > > 11 > > > > > points in 11th house and 16 points in 12th. AGain its > showing > > > > more > > > > > expenses than income. This is in Rahu MD. > > > > > > > > > > Now Gopal is in Guru antra in Rahu MD. Guru has 18 points > in > > > 11th > > > > > and 20 points in 12th at the same time it has 9 points in > 6th > > > > house > > > > > and its SD to sun who is in 2nd house with 4 bindus so it > will > > > > also > > > > > give worries. MF of Jupiter is also 0.5 as its in sign of > > enemy. > > > > > > > > > > All the points in 12th house (of pleasures or as we call it > > > Moksh) > > > > > are good. All points of 7th, 4th (except for Sa) are all > > good. > > > > > Most of the power of power of planets in WS are good. > > > > > > > > > > DBCE pooints are in ascending order so Gopal if working > cannot > > > be > > > > > happy with just an ordinary post. He needs more space or a > > post > > > > > wherein he can direct how work is done like a high post in a > > > > company > > > > > or CEO or he will eventually do his own business. > > > > > > > > > > Also here more expense as compared to expense is there so > that > > > > might > > > > > be the driving factor too. > > > > > > > > > > Let us see how things pan out for Gopal in the future. > > > > > > > > > > In Mars and Moon antra more worries or say less authorty > type > > of > > > > > jobs will be experienced. Ketu is also SD to Mars so > similar > > > > > experience in KEtu too. > > > > > > > > > > Other facts about intellegence etc are correct. Gopal has > > more > > > > > sectors of Mars and Mercury i.e. lagna , sun and moon in > > > navamsa, > > > > > drekkhana and trishansa. He might be daring and will take > > > risks. > > > > > > > > > > Good attempt and congratz Ramesh, on your finding the root > > cause > > > > of > > > > > such things. If one follows what is given in standard texts > > on > > > > > Ashtakvarg then he might be under impression that Jupiter > > being > > > in > > > > > 10th house in 32 bindu house with netural power might be > good > > > for > > > > > career in all cases which as per this example is not > > accurate. > > > > > Infact the only antra that will cause problems and lack of > > > > happiness > > > > > of 6th house is Guru. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh > mishra > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar, > > > > > > I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in my > > > > hand.As > > > > > is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and > Moon > > is > > > > > 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is > > > > 27:27:36:30 > > > > > in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and > > Moon > > > > the > > > > > native is ready to take risk in life. > > > > > > No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native lacks > > > > > sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is > in > > Me > > > > > divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second house. > > > > Lesson > > > > > 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always gives > > > some > > > > > obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and > he > > > > > occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24 > points > > > in > > > > > 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of > > Sat > > > is > > > > > more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of > > > income. > > > > > > Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is > > very > > > > > weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th (20) > > > than > > > > > that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes > up > > to > > > > > Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu is > > SD > > > to > > > > > Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th house > > > than > > > > > that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be > > there > > > > for > > > > > native. > > > > > > Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan karak > > and > > > > > 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies > > dhansthaan.Similarly > > > > Jup > > > > > is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job > > and > > > he > > > > > too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This Jup > > and > > > > 6th > > > > > lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak and > > > > bhagya > > > > > karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ). > > > > > > I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit > in > > > this > > > > > chart. > > > > > > Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house > is > > > > less > > > > > than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a good > > > > income > > > > > compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th > than > > > the > > > > 36 > > > > > in 11th house. In WS also Jup in 10th house has 17 points > than > > > the > > > > > 18 in 11th house.Though it is almost equal. > > > > > > Sir please check up my readings so far whether I am > inline > > > or > > > > > some improvemetns is needed. I will advance further for > > > occupation > > > > > only after listening my approach from you. As per this chart > > > > Native > > > > > should do a business of Saturn related matters. Awaiting for > > > your > > > > > guidance.Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > GOPAL <gopal_ks@> wrote: > > > > > > More data for further analysis > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income > > > > > > 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000 but > the > > > > > actual > > > > > > marriage took place on june-11-2001; > > > > > > 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998 > > > > > > 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003 > > > > > > 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from june- > > 1998 > > > > to > > > > > nov- > > > > > > -2000. > > > > > > 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst > > (programmer) > > > > and > > > > > > working since then nov2000 to now. > > > > > > 7) relocated within the company to texas from wisconsin on > > > april- > > > > > 30- > > > > > > 2005. > > > > > > 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and > > expenses, > > > > but > > > > > > feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > <ashsam73@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the > > current > > > > > antra > > > > > > Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra. > If > > > 12th > > > > > is > > > > > > more than 11th then it means that the native is facing > more > > > > > expenses > > > > > > than income. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats > > happening > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > > job front. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So if the native is facing problems in job then check > > the > > > > job > > > > > > related houses and the power of the planets in WS for that > > > > antra. > > > > > > Check the next antra to see what will happen going forward > > and > > > > the > > > > > > points of planets w.r.t. job related house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra > that > > > > Gopal > > > > > is > > > > > > in? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of > > > that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check the natives brilliance of the native ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check the career giving planets and ask the native in > > > which > > > > > field > > > > > > is he in? Say the career givign planets are Venus, Venus, > > > Venus > > > > > > i.e .from 10th lords from lagna sun and moon and they are > in > > > > > navamsa > > > > > > of Venus. If such a person is put in a mechanical > > enginnering > > > > > shop > > > > > > floor he might be happy and he might eventually change his > > > field > > > > > to > > > > > > somewhere where he can use his artistic knowledge and > > flourish. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get an idea on the nature and capability of the person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAV is for overall result, but WS is giving us power > in > > > > > specific > > > > > > antras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So if 11th vs 12th points in SAV in 11th is more than > > 12th > > > > > then > > > > > > the person will have savings in his life, but what is > > > happening > > > > in > > > > > a > > > > > > particular antra we can see from WS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are somethings I can check off the top of my > > head. > > > > Yes, > > > > > I > > > > > > am not dwleving into transit of Sa and Ju planets etc but > u > > > can > > > > > get > > > > > > into that slowly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So ask question but first make sure u get full idea of > > the > > > > > native > > > > > > and his nature and the chart will reflect that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again go through the lessons closely if u are stuck > up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try again using the above hints. But in general Gopal > > > > asked, > > > > > Ju > > > > > > is in 10th house with 4 bindus and its in a house with 32 > > > bindus > > > > > then > > > > > > how come he is facing issues in job or unable to find a > > better > > > > > job? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I beleive the understanding of Gopal is that if a > planet > > > is > > > > in > > > > > > 10th house and with netural bindus and if its in a house > > with > > > 32 > > > > > > points must mean that it should be good for job and career > > but > > > > > facts > > > > > > are not reflecting the same? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is also what many people having limited knowledge > > of > > > > > > Ashtakvarg which is found in books might also have. So > here > > u > > > > can > > > > > > clear their doubts and give concrete results based on firm > > > > grounds > > > > > on > > > > > > the importance of KAS in timing of event. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try again Ramesh, I have full confidence that u can > just > > > > look > > > > > at > > > > > > the WS and tell Gopal about his job and issues faced there > > in > > > > and > > > > > > more expense than income. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other list members can also attempt the same who are > > more > > > > > > experienced with KAS. > > > > > > > l > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > My Dear Ash, Namaskar, > > > > > > > Sorry for overlooking the relationship between > > > > > > > lagnalord and 9th lord.Before checking the chart I was > > > > > > > checking that relationship but somehow missed it.Then > > > > > > > I checked up in navamsa. Yes Sir, you are right both > > > > > > > the lords are in karak sthaan thus nullifying the > > > > > > > delay.and marriage is timely. > > > > > > > Whereas expenditure should be less than his income as > > > > > > > per SAV points in 11th and 12 house.Points in 12th > > > > > > > house is less than that of 11th house His 12th house > > > > > > > points and 10th house points are same and 11th house > > > > > > > point is 32 which is more than that of 10th and > > > > > > > 11th(30 points each).His DBCE from lagna is also in > > > > > > > increasing order but this is not for > > > > > > > expenditure.However chart is not before me so at > > > > > > > present i can't see the planets contribution for 11th > > > > > > > and 12th house from WS.Let you know next day. > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > Very good that atleast you have first begun to check > > > > > > > the authenticity > > > > > > > of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins > > > > > > > difference. > > > > > > > Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had > > > > > > > asked me to be > > > > > > > thorough and make full effort to first make sure of > > > > > > > birth time before > > > > > > > venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very > > > > > > > noble science > > > > > > > and its not a joke. > > > > > > > I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check > > > > > > > some events. > > > > > > > Yes, you found that something was amiss here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that > > > > > > > 9th lord has > > > > > > > gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak > > > > > > > sthan. So that > > > > > > > might play some part in reducing delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The > > > > > > > antra before that > > > > > > > in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power > > > > > > > and is LoE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The birth time is in ball park i feel however there > > > > > > > might be slight > > > > > > > difference in time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know when this marriage was fixed either. > > > > > > > Sometimes there > > > > > > > can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat > > > > > > > that might case > > > > > > > delays. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here if Gopal can give more details on when the > > > > > > > marriage was fixed > > > > > > > and we know when it was performed. In that case > > > > > > > things will get > > > > > > > sorted out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp > > > > > > > than income. Are > > > > > > > u able to see that in the WS? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar, > > > > > > > > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo > > > > > > > navamsa.KAY is > > > > > > > 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness > > > > > > > of the chart. > > > > > > > Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its > > > > > > > authenticity. However > > > > > > > marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara. > > > > > > > Rahu is SD to Nk > > > > > > > of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house. > > > > > > > > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of > > > > > > > B. It occupies > > > > > > > house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself > > > > > > > LoB also. In > > > > > > > navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th > > > > > > > lord from House > > > > > > > 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual > > > > > > > marriage was > > > > > > > performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal > > > > > > > according to > > > > > > > Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be > > > > > > > checked. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins > > > > > > > conceived in Jan > > > > > > > 2005 > > > > > > > > or Jan 2006? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and > > > > > > > cast your chart > > > > > > > > using KAY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not > > > > > > > use Prati antar > > > > > > > > Dasha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready > > > > > > > reference so > > > > > > > > that members attempting your chart, their analysis > > > > > > > using KAS you > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And out of courtesy sign your name please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > " GOPAL " > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time is known to be very accurate > > > > > > > > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA > > > > > > > > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in > > > > > > > mid jan 2006. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most > > > > > > > but with the > > > > > > > > number > > > > > > > > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than > > > > > > > income. Expenses > > > > > > > > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing > > > > > > > which is > > > > > > > > causing > > > > > > > > > me to seek additional income through job change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with > > > > > > > regard to job > > > > > > > change? > > > > > > > > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with > > > > > > > regard to job > > > > > > > despite > > > > > > > > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with > > > > > > > regard to > > > > > > > > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house > > > > > > > and the sarva > > > > > > > > > score is 32 for that house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily > > > > > > > tell u about the > > > > > > > > > > reason for job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a > > > > > > > special law that > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation > > > > > > > to the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception > > > > > > > in about dec > > > > > > > > 2004 > > > > > > > > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might > > > > > > > have had twins > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > Ju antra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage > > > > > > > might have been in > > > > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months > > > > > > > difference. This > > > > > > > > gentleman > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change > > > > > > > can reflect > > > > > > > > large > > > > > > > > > > change in start and end of dashsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying > > > > > > > the chart but > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > pointing this fact out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career > > > > > > > etc I am sure > > > > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > > who studies this chart and want to practice > > > > > > > w.r.t career, > > > > > > > > finances > > > > > > > > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems > > > > > > > in Guru antra > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > quite possible u might have faced some > > > > > > > challenges w.r.t > > > > > > > > > debt/higher > > > > > > > > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to > > > > > > > income in Rahu > > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied > > > > > > > closely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > " GOPAL " > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last > > > > > > > 3 years or so. > > > > > > > > > > Severe > > > > > > > > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good > > > > > > > otherwise, Can > > > > > > > > anyone > > > > > > > > > > > explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India > > > > > > > > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM > > > > > > > > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Education: M.S > > > > > > > > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since > > > > > > > then. > > > > > > > > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001 > > > > > > > > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003 > > > > > > > > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Dear Ramesh and Gopal, Check lagna / 7th, moon/7th and sun/7th. All are in 3:11 and 5:9. Gopal, as per KAS, planets in 12th house is good. It means that the house ruled by them, the results of those house ruled by them get enhanced. So 6th and 7th hosue results will be enhanced and that u are experiencing. As per KAS, 6th house is the worst or say most malefic and 6th lord is most malefic planet. As u know that 7th house from any house is having enimity. 1st is SELF and 7th is Wife. 11th is self earned income v/s 5th is unearned income (so say speculation or gambling etc). 9th is luck or furtune and 3rd is that of initiatives and hard work or 9th is Father and 3rd is Mother. 10th is that of authority and 4th is that of home. 2nd is self earned wealth wheares 8th house is that of unearned wealth (like inheritance or bonus). Now coming to 6th house and 12th house. 6th house is most malefic that will make 12th house the most benefic house. 12th house is that of pleasures and moksh and by Moksh i mean not after death but in this life time. So planets in 6th house we say as per KAS is like in a black hole wheareas those planets in 12th house of the chart then the house ruled by them, the results of which are enhanced. We also say that the house where the 12th house goes to, the results of that house will get enhanced as per KAS. Your chart, moon is in 1st house so it will enhaced your personality. 1st house is A for 6th. You will have a very nice and dedicated wife. Your relations will be 3:11 and in 5:9. Apply this in many charts. Cheers !!! Ash GOPAL <gopal_ks wrote: Hi Ramesh, That is a good question because 7th lord in 12th house prompts that question. I'm immensely satisfied with my wife and she is a very dedicated person who looks after me and my children very well. Basically, say an excellent marital life. I am attributing to Venus in several of its own divisional charts. Usually, I am treated very well by women at job also. Lot of our problem have stemmed from the unplanned pregnancies causing financial hazard. Like travelling to India and bringing folks here to look after babies. Expenses are because of education (we educated ourself very well on our own), kids, travel to India, travel of parents from India to US, and maintain a large house. Basically for good purposes. We did buy a house in oct-2003 and sold it in apr-2005 for small profit so that we could relocate to Dallas from Milwaukee. We bought another house in dallas may-2-2005. I've had decent gains in stock (mid-2002 to mid 2003). Both pregnancies were unplanned Wife: Dec-13-1979- 8.15PM (Chennai, India) 1) Daughter was born jan-12-2003 (4.06PM Milwaukee) 2) Twins(boy and then girl) - 9-27-2005 (10.25PM and 10.35PM at Frisco, TX) Thanks, Gopal , ramesh mishra wrote: > > Dear Gopal, Namaskar, > I have few dobts by seeing your chart. I want to clear those if you feed me back. You are educated and earning well still you are suffering financially.I want to know about your married life. I find from your chart that you have something problem with your married life. May be your spouse does not cooperate with you. You may not be satisfied with the behaviour of your wife.Most of the expenditure is being expent to satisfy her needs and her various requirements. > Due to this expenses you are unable to fulfill your needs and requirements and thus you remain unsatisfied or something like that. I may be wrong also. But I need confirmation from you. It shall be helpful for me. Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > GOPAL wrote: > Thanks Ash. I like that approach of yours in seeking and imparting > knowledge to others. > > Even though life has been fairly happy and successful for me, I've > only got each one of those aspects with frustration, struggle and > delay; Definitely there is an answer to that in the KAS system. > > Hopefully in future, I can contribute to the forum like how you do > today. I like to emulate good things of others. > > Thanks > Gopal > > , " ashsam73 " > wrote: > > > > Dear Jagdish, > > You wrote > > " So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a > wonderful > > life instead > > of planets with less than 4 points, you will start enjoying the > > blessing you > > got. > > > > But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad > idea > > about your > > life. > > " > > > > Ash: Please do not dissuade Gopal or Others from their > exploration. > > Let people have doubts and that is good. Accepting anything > blindly > > is of no use. > > > > Without having doubts one cannot clear those doubts and in the > > process of doing so they will learn a lot. > > > > For your information, Ashtakvarg is not a subject to give broad > idea > > on life. It's very precice and very scientific. > > > > Again to understand that u have to spend a lot of time and study > > hard and with dedication. > > > > Then after a few decades of sincere studies and solving thousands > > and thousands of charts using KAS, u will not pass such casual > > remark on this Jyotish Shastra. > > > > Someone has said that Failure is a stepping stone to success so > why > > stop people especially from gaining knowledge? > > > > No one learns to walk without falling a few times...... > > > > If you can help someone using your knowledge, you are more than > > welcome, and in doing so u will only gain more knowedge, but > please > > do not stop anyone from probing or trying to clear their doubts. > > Who knows tomorrow the same doubts will be raised by other new > > commers and at that time their journey to clear their doubt, and > by > > sharing such knowledge will help others. > > > > So Gopal, go ahead, and have as many doubts as u can, and if I > may, > > do not accept anything blindly. Work hard with dedication, and > all > > your doubts can /will be solved in due course of time. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Prathamesn Chawan > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gopal, > > > > > > As far i came to know about astrology (not from KAS but from > > other group), there is no hard and fast rule. A person having many > > good planets in 10th house can live the life of a hermit (Lord > > Budha) and a person having many bad yogas can live the life of a > > king (Osho). > > > > > > Rishi Parashara made few rules. New astrologers made few other > > rules. Sometimes these rule contradict and exactly oppose each > other. > > > > > > If astrologer says that this period of time is going to be > > painful. Then how painful ? Having a headache is quite painful and > > losing someone's part of body is also painful. > > > > > > I guess astrology gives a very broad idea but sometimes it > works > > and sometimes it complete failure. There are so many complication > in > > a horoscope that a person who is reading someone's chart must be > > very very and very intelligent. And nothing should skip from his > > eyes. And not only this, sometimes in a horscope there are > > contradicting yogas. Now what an astrolgoer can do in this case ? > > > > > > It is very appreciative that you have gained so much in life > and > > almost living life happily. Till you have 'peace of mind' keep on > > enjoying it as you will never know when the bad time will start. > > > > > > When first bad thing will happen in your life, you will take > it > > easy. Then second bad accident happen to you, you will struggle > and > > will try to beat it. Then third bad thing will happen in your life > > and will be surprized and will start praying to God for peace. On > > fourth bad accident, you will cry but will not lose the faith in > > God. On 5th accident, you will become kind of 'revolting person' > > somewhat like cursing ' God'. On 6th accident, you will start > > crying and laughing at the same time but you will still pray to > the > > God for some divine help but nothing will happen. Tears will come, > > you will pray to God but nothing will change and then there will > be > > the next morning..... > > > > > > ( it is not for you. I am just telling a general idea and how > i > > reacted on each accident) > > > > > > I guess i said too much......... > > > > > > So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a > > wonderful life instead of planets with less than 4 points, you > will > > start enjoying the blessing you got. > > > > > > But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad > > idea about your life. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Jagdish > > > > > > GOPAL wrote: > > > I've just started learning this system. So pardon my > ignorance. > > > > > > Benefic planets are ones with more than 4 bindus per KAS > > > > > > Just like anyone else, checked out mine first. Found out that > not > > a > > > single planent with more than 4 bindus in my chart. > > > > > > With not a single benefic planet, how could I've achieved fairly > > > good life at a young age (education, decent job, marriage, kids, > > > house etc., within age 30); > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Gopal > > > > > > , " GOPAL " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks everyone for their contribution. I feel excited about > KAS > > > > techniques and working on learning it. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Gopal and list members, Namaskar, > > > > > Thanks Ash for encouragements. It is you only who teach us > > the > > > > system. By virtue of your good guidance I think I can pick up > > and > > > > become your followers. Thanks once again.Let me proceed > further > > > for > > > > future symtomps.Native is going through Sat antara from 05 Jun > > > 2006 > > > > till 10 Apr 2009.Sat is FK for 11th and 12th house and > situated > > in > > > > the second from 11th house.What circumstances may take > place.Sat > > > is > > > > LoD for 9th house of luck and 10th house of authority > > > respectively. > > > > He is LoE for 1st house and 2nd house.Sat also aignifies third > > and > > > > seventh house by its placement in 12th house.It means Sat > > > signifies > > > > houses 1st,2nd,3rd,7th,9th and 10th..Sat is very powerful in > all > > > > these houses No doubt native may earn but side by side his > > > > expenditure will go more than his income. Reason being Sat is > > > having > > > > more point in 12th house of expenses than that of 11th house > of > > > > income.Secondly Sat is weak in 4th house of income. > > > > > At present Sat is transiting in Karka where he has only > > three > > > > points and Jup is transiting in Libra who also has 3 > > > > points.Therefore Jup and Sat total amounts come to only six > > which > > > is > > > > less than eight.Since total transit points of these two > planets > > > are > > > > less, they may give the difficulties , worries and the result > > may > > > > be unfavourable. Sat moves in Leo on 19 Oct 06 and Jup remains > > in > > > > Libra the total points during this transition are seven still > > less > > > > than eight But on 23 Oct 06 Jup moves into Scorpio then their > > > > combine point raise to total nine which is a favourable > > oppotunity > > > > for the native Therefore whenever transit of Sat and Jup > brings > > > the > > > > total more than eight point native may get the favourable > result > > > in > > > > respect of his income. Will continue. Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Gopal and List Members, > > > > > Well done. You have found out the issues. > > > > > > > > > > Ju current antra has less power in 6th house and 11th vs > 12th > > > > > comparision. 12th house points of Ju in WS is more than > 11th > > > > > points. So its quiet clear. > > > > > > > > > > Things like Ju being in 10th house with 4 bindus and in 32 > > > bindus > > > > > house means more than 28 can't blindly mean that Ju antra > will > > > be > > > > > good. Such things can be misleading. Yes say if lagna was > > > Libra > > > > > then that might become an exception. Here Ju would become > LoD > > > for > > > > > 6th and LoE for 10th or Say if Capricorn was the lagna in > that > > > > case > > > > > Ju might become LoE for 10th so it might be good for > authority > > > > (10th > > > > > house) and that time we must see power of 6th etc etc etc. > > > > > > > > > > Another point you have given clearly too. > > > > > > > > > > Let study since start of Gopals career how this trend has > been > > > as > > > > > Gopal has clearly said that he never had any savings despite > > > good > > > > > income. > > > > > > > > > > He started his career in 2000 before that it was more > > education > > > > > geared. That might be Venus antra. In Venus antra 12th > > poitns > > > > are > > > > > more than 11th in WS with 11th house showing 11. So more > > > expenses > > > > > than income. > > > > > > > > > > Next came Sun antra. Sun has 21 points in 11th and 14 in > > 12th. > > > > So > > > > > here some savings but Sun antra is small only 4 months. > > > > > > > > > > Next came Moon in Mars AD. Moon has 14 points in 11th vs 19 > > > > points > > > > > in 12th. So more expenses than income again. So no savings > > or > > > > some > > > > > savings that were there in Sun antra were spent in Moon > antra. > > > > > > > > > > After that Came Rahu. Rahu is SD to Venus. Venus again has > > 11 > > > > > points in 11th house and 16 points in 12th. AGain its > showing > > > > more > > > > > expenses than income. This is in Rahu MD. > > > > > > > > > > Now Gopal is in Guru antra in Rahu MD. Guru has 18 points > in > > > 11th > > > > > and 20 points in 12th at the same time it has 9 points in > 6th > > > > house > > > > > and its SD to sun who is in 2nd house with 4 bindus so it > will > > > > also > > > > > give worries. MF of Jupiter is also 0.5 as its in sign of > > enemy. > > > > > > > > > > All the points in 12th house (of pleasures or as we call it > > > Moksh) > > > > > are good. All points of 7th, 4th (except for Sa) are all > > good. > > > > > Most of the power of power of planets in WS are good. > > > > > > > > > > DBCE pooints are in ascending order so Gopal if working > cannot > > > be > > > > > happy with just an ordinary post. He needs more space or a > > post > > > > > wherein he can direct how work is done like a high post in a > > > > company > > > > > or CEO or he will eventually do his own business. > > > > > > > > > > Also here more expense as compared to expense is there so > that > > > > might > > > > > be the driving factor too. > > > > > > > > > > Let us see how things pan out for Gopal in the future. > > > > > > > > > > In Mars and Moon antra more worries or say less authorty > type > > of > > > > > jobs will be experienced. Ketu is also SD to Mars so > similar > > > > > experience in KEtu too. > > > > > > > > > > Other facts about intellegence etc are correct. Gopal has > > more > > > > > sectors of Mars and Mercury i.e. lagna , sun and moon in > > > navamsa, > > > > > drekkhana and trishansa. He might be daring and will take > > > risks. > > > > > > > > > > Good attempt and congratz Ramesh, on your finding the root > > cause > > > > of > > > > > such things. If one follows what is given in standard texts > > on > > > > > Ashtakvarg then he might be under impression that Jupiter > > being > > > in > > > > > 10th house in 32 bindu house with netural power might be > good > > > for > > > > > career in all cases which as per this example is not > > accurate. > > > > > Infact the only antra that will cause problems and lack of > > > > happiness > > > > > of 6th house is Guru. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh > mishra > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar, > > > > > > I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in my > > > > hand.As > > > > > is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and > Moon > > is > > > > > 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is > > > > 27:27:36:30 > > > > > in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and > > Moon > > > > the > > > > > native is ready to take risk in life. > > > > > > No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native lacks > > > > > sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is > in > > Me > > > > > divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second house. > > > > Lesson > > > > > 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always gives > > > some > > > > > obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and > he > > > > > occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24 > points > > > in > > > > > 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of > > Sat > > > is > > > > > more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of > > > income. > > > > > > Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is > > very > > > > > weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th (20) > > > than > > > > > that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes > up > > to > > > > > Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu is > > SD > > > to > > > > > Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th house > > > than > > > > > that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be > > there > > > > for > > > > > native. > > > > > > Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan karak > > and > > > > > 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies > > dhansthaan.Similarly > > > > Jup > > > > > is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job > > and > > > he > > > > > too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This Jup > > and > > > > 6th > > > > > lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak and > > > > bhagya > > > > > karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ). > > > > > > I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit > in > > > this > > > > > chart. > > > > > > Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house > is > > > > less > > > > > than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a good > > > > income > > > > > compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th > than > > > the > > > > 36 > > > > > in 11th house. In WS also Jup in 10th house has 17 points > than > > > the > > > > > 18 in 11th house.Though it is almost equal. > > > > > > Sir please check up my readings so far whether I am > inline > > > or > > > > > some improvemetns is needed. I will advance further for > > > occupation > > > > > only after listening my approach from you. As per this chart > > > > Native > > > > > should do a business of Saturn related matters. Awaiting for > > > your > > > > > guidance.Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > GOPAL wrote: > > > > > > More data for further analysis > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income > > > > > > 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000 but > the > > > > > actual > > > > > > marriage took place on june-11-2001; > > > > > > 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998 > > > > > > 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003 > > > > > > 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from june- > > 1998 > > > > to > > > > > nov- > > > > > > -2000. > > > > > > 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst > > (programmer) > > > > and > > > > > > working since then nov2000 to now. > > > > > > 7) relocated within the company to texas from wisconsin on > > > april- > > > > > 30- > > > > > > 2005. > > > > > > 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and > > expenses, > > > > but > > > > > > feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Gopal > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the > > current > > > > > antra > > > > > > Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra. > If > > > 12th > > > > > is > > > > > > more than 11th then it means that the native is facing > more > > > > > expenses > > > > > > than income. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats > > happening > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > > job front. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So if the native is facing problems in job then check > > the > > > > job > > > > > > related houses and the power of the planets in WS for that > > > > antra. > > > > > > Check the next antra to see what will happen going forward > > and > > > > the > > > > > > points of planets w.r.t. job related house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra > that > > > > Gopal > > > > > is > > > > > > in? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of === message truncated === Mail Bring photos to life! 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