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I forgot to add. For worries see if the antra running has some

relation to 2nd lord of planets placed in 2nd house.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, Ash <ashsam73

wrote:

>

> Dear Ramesh and Gopal,

>

> Check lagna / 7th, moon/7th and sun/7th. All are in 3:11 and

5:9.

>

> Gopal, as per KAS, planets in 12th house is good. It means that

the house ruled by them, the results of those house ruled by them

get enhanced.

>

> So 6th and 7th hosue results will be enhanced and that u are

experiencing.

>

> As per KAS, 6th house is the worst or say most malefic and 6th

lord is most malefic planet.

>

> As u know that 7th house from any house is having enimity. 1st

is SELF and 7th is Wife.

>

> 11th is self earned income v/s 5th is unearned income (so say

speculation or gambling etc).

>

> 9th is luck or furtune and 3rd is that of initiatives and hard

work or 9th is Father and 3rd is Mother.

>

> 10th is that of authority and 4th is that of home.

>

> 2nd is self earned wealth wheares 8th house is that of unearned

wealth (like inheritance or bonus).

>

> Now coming to 6th house and 12th house. 6th house is most

malefic that will make 12th house the most benefic house.

>

> 12th house is that of pleasures and moksh and by Moksh i mean

not after death but in this life time.

>

> So planets in 6th house we say as per KAS is like in a black

hole wheareas those planets in 12th house of the chart then the

house ruled by them, the results of which are enhanced.

>

> We also say that the house where the 12th house goes to, the

results of that house will get enhanced as per KAS.

>

> Your chart, moon is in 1st house so it will enhaced your

personality. 1st house is A for 6th. :)

>

> You will have a very nice and dedicated wife. Your relations

will be 3:11 and in 5:9.

>

> Apply this in many charts.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> GOPAL <gopal_ks wrote:

> Hi Ramesh,

>

> That is a good question because 7th lord in 12th house prompts

that

> question. I'm immensely satisfied with my wife and she is a very

> dedicated person who looks after me and my children very well.

> Basically, say an excellent marital life. I am attributing to

Venus

> in several of its own divisional charts. Usually, I am treated

very

> well by women at job also.

>

> Lot of our problem have stemmed from the unplanned pregnancies

> causing financial hazard. Like travelling to India and bringing

folks

> here to look after babies. Expenses are because of education (we

> educated ourself very well on our own), kids, travel to India,

travel

> of parents from India to US, and maintain a large house. Basically

> for good purposes.

>

> We did buy a house in oct-2003 and sold it in apr-2005 for small

> profit so that we could relocate to Dallas from Milwaukee. We

bought

> another house in dallas may-2-2005. I've had decent gains in stock

> (mid-2002 to mid 2003).

>

>

> Both pregnancies were unplanned

>

> Wife: Dec-13-1979- 8.15PM (Chennai, India)

>

> 1) Daughter was born jan-12-2003 (4.06PM Milwaukee)

> 2) Twins(boy and then girl) - 9-27-2005 (10.25PM and 10.35PM at

> Frisco, TX)

>

> Thanks,

> Gopal

>

> , ramesh mishra

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gopal, Namaskar,

> > I have few dobts by seeing your chart. I want to clear those if

> you feed me back. You are educated and earning well still you are

> suffering financially.I want to know about your married life. I

find

> from your chart that you have something problem with your married

> life. May be your spouse does not cooperate with you. You may not

be

> satisfied with the behaviour of your wife.Most of the expenditure

is

> being expent to satisfy her needs and her various requirements.

> > Due to this expenses you are unable to fulfill your needs and

> requirements and thus you remain unsatisfied or something like

that.

> I may be wrong also. But I need confirmation from you. It shall be

> helpful for me. Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > GOPAL wrote:

> > Thanks Ash. I like that approach of yours in seeking and

> imparting

> > knowledge to others.

> >

> > Even though life has been fairly happy and successful for me,

I've

> > only got each one of those aspects with frustration, struggle

and

> > delay; Definitely there is an answer to that in the KAS system.

> >

> > Hopefully in future, I can contribute to the forum like how you

do

> > today. I like to emulate good things of others.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Gopal

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jagdish,

> > > You wrote

> > > " So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a

> > wonderful

> > > life instead

> > > of planets with less than 4 points, you will start enjoying

the

> > > blessing you

> > > got.

> > >

> > > But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad

> > idea

> > > about your

> > > life.

> > > "

> > >

> > > Ash: Please do not dissuade Gopal or Others from their

> > exploration.

> > > Let people have doubts and that is good. Accepting anything

> > blindly

> > > is of no use.

> > >

> > > Without having doubts one cannot clear those doubts and in the

> > > process of doing so they will learn a lot.

> > >

> > > For your information, Ashtakvarg is not a subject to give

broad

> > idea

> > > on life. It's very precice and very scientific.

> > >

> > > Again to understand that u have to spend a lot of time and

study

> > > hard and with dedication.

> > >

> > > Then after a few decades of sincere studies and solving

thousands

> > > and thousands of charts using KAS, u will not pass such casual

> > > remark on this Jyotish Shastra.

> > >

> > > Someone has said that Failure is a stepping stone to success

so

> > why

> > > stop people especially from gaining knowledge?

> > >

> > > No one learns to walk without falling a few times......

> > >

> > > If you can help someone using your knowledge, you are more

than

> > > welcome, and in doing so u will only gain more knowedge, but

> > please

> > > do not stop anyone from probing or trying to clear their

doubts.

> > > Who knows tomorrow the same doubts will be raised by other new

> > > commers and at that time their journey to clear their doubt,

and

> > by

> > > sharing such knowledge will help others.

> > >

> > > So Gopal, go ahead, and have as many doubts as u can, and if I

> > may,

> > > do not accept anything blindly. Work hard with dedication, and

> > all

> > > your doubts can /will be solved in due course of time.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , Prathamesn

> Chawan

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gopal,

> > > >

> > > > As far i came to know about astrology (not from KAS but from

> > > other group), there is no hard and fast rule. A person having

> many

> > > good planets in 10th house can live the life of a hermit (Lord

> > > Budha) and a person having many bad yogas can live the life of

a

> > > king (Osho).

> > > >

> > > > Rishi Parashara made few rules. New astrologers made few

> other

> > > rules. Sometimes these rule contradict and exactly oppose each

> > other.

> > > >

> > > > If astrologer says that this period of time is going to be

> > > painful. Then how painful ? Having a headache is quite painful

> and

> > > losing someone's part of body is also painful.

> > > >

> > > > I guess astrology gives a very broad idea but sometimes it

> > works

> > > and sometimes it complete failure. There are so many

complication

> > in

> > > a horoscope that a person who is reading someone's chart must

be

> > > very very and very intelligent. And nothing should skip from

his

> > > eyes. And not only this, sometimes in a horscope there are

> > > contradicting yogas. Now what an astrolgoer can do in this

case ?

> > > >

> > > > It is very appreciative that you have gained so much in life

> > and

> > > almost living life happily. Till you have 'peace of mind' keep

on

> > > enjoying it as you will never know when the bad time will

start.

> > > >

> > > > When first bad thing will happen in your life, you will take

> > it

> > > easy. Then second bad accident happen to you, you will

struggle

> > and

> > > will try to beat it. Then third bad thing will happen in your

> life

> > > and will be surprized and will start praying to God for peace.

On

> > > fourth bad accident, you will cry but will not lose the faith

in

> > > God. On 5th accident, you will become kind of 'revolting

person'

> > > somewhat like cursing ' God'. On 6th accident, you will start

> > > crying and laughing at the same time but you will still pray

to

> > the

> > > God for some divine help but nothing will happen. Tears will

> come,

> > > you will pray to God but nothing will change and then there

will

> > be

> > > the next morning.....

> > > >

> > > > ( it is not for you. I am just telling a general idea and

how

> > i

> > > reacted on each accident)

> > > >

> > > > I guess i said too much.........

> > > >

> > > > So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a

> > > wonderful life instead of planets with less than 4 points, you

> > will

> > > start enjoying the blessing you got.

> > > >

> > > > But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad

> > > idea about your life.

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes

> > > >

> > > > Jagdish

> > > >

> > > > GOPAL wrote:

> > > > I've just started learning this system. So pardon my

> > ignorance.

> > > >

> > > > Benefic planets are ones with more than 4 bindus per KAS

> > > >

> > > > Just like anyone else, checked out mine first. Found out

that

> > not

> > > a

> > > > single planent with more than 4 bindus in my chart.

> > > >

> > > > With not a single benefic planet, how could I've achieved

> fairly

> > > > good life at a young age (education, decent job, marriage,

> kids,

> > > > house etc., within age 30);

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Gopal

> > > >

> > > > , " GOPAL "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks everyone for their contribution. I feel excited

about

> > KAS

> > > > > techniques and working on learning it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Gopal

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , ramesh

> mishra

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash, Gopal and list members, Namaskar,

> > > > > > Thanks Ash for encouragements. It is you only who teach

> us

> > > the

> > > > > system. By virtue of your good guidance I think I can pick

up

> > > and

> > > > > become your followers. Thanks once again.Let me proceed

> > further

> > > > for

> > > > > future symtomps.Native is going through Sat antara from 05

> Jun

> > > > 2006

> > > > > till 10 Apr 2009.Sat is FK for 11th and 12th house and

> > situated

> > > in

> > > > > the second from 11th house.What circumstances may take

> > place.Sat

> > > > is

> > > > > LoD for 9th house of luck and 10th house of authority

> > > > respectively.

> > > > > He is LoE for 1st house and 2nd house.Sat also aignifies

> third

> > > and

> > > > > seventh house by its placement in 12th house.It means Sat

> > > > signifies

> > > > > houses 1st,2nd,3rd,7th,9th and 10th..Sat is very powerful

in

> > all

> > > > > these houses No doubt native may earn but side by side his

> > > > > expenditure will go more than his income. Reason being Sat

is

> > > > having

> > > > > more point in 12th house of expenses than that of 11th

house

> > of

> > > > > income.Secondly Sat is weak in 4th house of income.

> > > > > > At present Sat is transiting in Karka where he has only

> > > three

> > > > > points and Jup is transiting in Libra who also has 3

> > > > > points.Therefore Jup and Sat total amounts come to only

six

> > > which

> > > > is

> > > > > less than eight.Since total transit points of these two

> > planets

> > > > are

> > > > > less, they may give the difficulties , worries and the

> result

> > > may

> > > > > be unfavourable. Sat moves in Leo on 19 Oct 06 and Jup

> remains

> > > in

> > > > > Libra the total points during this transition are seven

still

> > > less

> > > > > than eight But on 23 Oct 06 Jup moves into Scorpio then

their

> > > > > combine point raise to total nine which is a favourable

> > > oppotunity

> > > > > for the native Therefore whenever transit of Sat and Jup

> > brings

> > > > the

> > > > > total more than eight point native may get the favourable

> > result

> > > > in

> > > > > respect of his income. Will continue. Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ashsam73 wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Gopal and List Members,

> > > > > > Well done. You have found out the issues.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ju current antra has less power in 6th house and 11th vs

> > 12th

> > > > > > comparision. 12th house points of Ju in WS is more than

> > 11th

> > > > > > points. So its quiet clear.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Things like Ju being in 10th house with 4 bindus and in

32

> > > > bindus

> > > > > > house means more than 28 can't blindly mean that Ju

antra

> > will

> > > > be

> > > > > > good. Such things can be misleading. Yes say if lagna

was

> > > > Libra

> > > > > > then that might become an exception. Here Ju would

become

> > LoD

> > > > for

> > > > > > 6th and LoE for 10th or Say if Capricorn was the lagna

in

> > that

> > > > > case

> > > > > > Ju might become LoE for 10th so it might be good for

> > authority

> > > > > (10th

> > > > > > house) and that time we must see power of 6th etc etc

etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Another point you have given clearly too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let study since start of Gopals career how this trend

has

> > been

> > > > as

> > > > > > Gopal has clearly said that he never had any savings

> despite

> > > > good

> > > > > > income.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He started his career in 2000 before that it was more

> > > education

> > > > > > geared. That might be Venus antra. In Venus antra 12th

> > > poitns

> > > > > are

> > > > > > more than 11th in WS with 11th house showing 11. So more

> > > > expenses

> > > > > > than income.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Next came Sun antra. Sun has 21 points in 11th and 14 in

> > > 12th.

> > > > > So

> > > > > > here some savings but Sun antra is small only 4 months.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Next came Moon in Mars AD. Moon has 14 points in 11th vs

> 19

> > > > > points

> > > > > > in 12th. So more expenses than income again. So no

> savings

> > > or

> > > > > some

> > > > > > savings that were there in Sun antra were spent in Moon

> > antra.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After that Came Rahu. Rahu is SD to Venus. Venus again

> has

> > > 11

> > > > > > points in 11th house and 16 points in 12th. AGain its

> > showing

> > > > > more

> > > > > > expenses than income. This is in Rahu MD.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now Gopal is in Guru antra in Rahu MD. Guru has 18

points

> > in

> > > > 11th

> > > > > > and 20 points in 12th at the same time it has 9 points

in

> > 6th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > and its SD to sun who is in 2nd house with 4 bindus so

it

> > will

> > > > > also

> > > > > > give worries. MF of Jupiter is also 0.5 as its in sign

of

> > > enemy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > All the points in 12th house (of pleasures or as we call

it

> > > > Moksh)

> > > > > > are good. All points of 7th, 4th (except for Sa) are all

> > > good.

> > > > > > Most of the power of power of planets in WS are good.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > DBCE pooints are in ascending order so Gopal if working

> > cannot

> > > > be

> > > > > > happy with just an ordinary post. He needs more space or

a

> > > post

> > > > > > wherein he can direct how work is done like a high post

in

> a

> > > > > company

> > > > > > or CEO or he will eventually do his own business.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also here more expense as compared to expense is there

so

> > that

> > > > > might

> > > > > > be the driving factor too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let us see how things pan out for Gopal in the future.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In Mars and Moon antra more worries or say less authorty

> > type

> > > of

> > > > > > jobs will be experienced. Ketu is also SD to Mars so

> > similar

> > > > > > experience in KEtu too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Other facts about intellegence etc are correct. Gopal

has

> > > more

> > > > > > sectors of Mars and Mercury i.e. lagna , sun and moon in

> > > > navamsa,

> > > > > > drekkhana and trishansa. He might be daring and will

take

> > > > risks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Good attempt and congratz Ramesh, on your finding the

root

> > > cause

> > > > > of

> > > > > > such things. If one follows what is given in standard

> texts

> > > on

> > > > > > Ashtakvarg then he might be under impression that

Jupiter

> > > being

> > > > in

> > > > > > 10th house in 32 bindu house with netural power might be

> > good

> > > > for

> > > > > > career in all cases which as per this example is not

> > > accurate.

> > > > > > Infact the only antra that will cause problems and lack

of

> > > > > happiness

> > > > > > of 6th house is Guru.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , ramesh

> > mishra

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar,

> > > > > > > I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in

> my

> > > > > hand.As

> > > > > > is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and

> > Moon

> > > is

> > > > > > 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is

> > > > > 27:27:36:30

> > > > > > in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna

and

> > > Moon

> > > > > the

> > > > > > native is ready to take risk in life.

> > > > > > > No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native

> lacks

> > > > > > sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets

is

> > in

> > > Me

> > > > > > divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second

> house.

> > > > > Lesson

> > > > > > 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always

> gives

> > > > some

> > > > > > obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat

and

> > he

> > > > > > occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24

> > points

> > > > in

> > > > > > 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points

of

> > > Sat

> > > > is

> > > > > > more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house

of

> > > > income.

> > > > > > > Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup

is

> > > very

> > > > > > weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th

> (20)

> > > > than

> > > > > > that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara

goes

> > up

> > > to

> > > > > > Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara.

Rahu

> is

> > > SD

> > > > to

> > > > > > Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th

> house

> > > > than

> > > > > > that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to

be

> > > there

> > > > > for

> > > > > > native.

> > > > > > > Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan

> karak

> > > and

> > > > > > 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies

> > > dhansthaan.Similarly

> > > > > Jup

> > > > > > is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of

job

> > > and

> > > > he

> > > > > > too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This

> Jup

> > > and

> > > > > 6th

> > > > > > lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak

> and

> > > > > bhagya

> > > > > > karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ).

> > > > > > > I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit

> > in

> > > > this

> > > > > > chart.

> > > > > > > Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th

house

> > is

> > > > > less

> > > > > > than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a

> good

> > > > > income

> > > > > > compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th

> > than

> > > > the

> > > > > 36

> > > > > > in 11th house. In WS also Jup in 10th house has 17

points

> > than

> > > > the

> > > > > > 18 in 11th house.Though it is almost equal.

> > > > > > > Sir please check up my readings so far whether I am

> > inline

> > > > or

> > > > > > some improvemetns is needed. I will advance further for

> > > > occupation

> > > > > > only after listening my approach from you. As per this

> chart

> > > > > Native

> > > > > > should do a business of Saturn related matters. Awaiting

> for

> > > > your

> > > > > > guidance.Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > GOPAL wrote:

> > > > > > > More data for further analysis

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income

> > > > > > > 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000

but

> > the

> > > > > > actual

> > > > > > > marriage took place on june-11-2001;

> > > > > > > 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998

> > > > > > > 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003

> > > > > > > 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from

june-

> > > 1998

> > > > > to

> > > > > > nov-

> > > > > > > -2000.

> > > > > > > 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst

> > > (programmer)

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > working since then nov2000 to now.

> > > > > > > 7) relocated within the company to texas from

wisconsin

> on

> > > > april-

> > > > > > 30-

> > > > > > > 2005.

> > > > > > > 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and

> > > expenses,

> > > > > but

> > > > > > > feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > Gopal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Ash

> > > >

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > > > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the

> > > current

> > > > > > antra

> > > > > > > Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra.

> > If

> > > > 12th

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > more than 11th then it means that the native is facing

> > more

> > > > > > expenses

> > > > > > > than income.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats

> > > happening

> > > > on

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > job front.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So if the native is facing problems in job then

check

> > > the

> > > > > job

> > > > > > > related houses and the power of the planets in WS for

> that

> > > > > antra.

> > > > > > > Check the next antra to see what will happen going

> forward

> > > and

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > points of planets w.r.t. job related house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra

> > that

> > > > > Gopal

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > in?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning

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Respected Sir Ash,

 

I guess you misunderstood me. I am not discouraging Gopal. In my last line of

the email i requested him to learn astrology. I ,myself, believe in astrology.

And i am also trying to learn astrology by reading notes from website.

 

And i am not trying to learn it from last month. I am trying to learn

astrology from 1996. And i found out till date ( chances are there that i may

prove myself wrong when i will get more experience) that astrology gives you

pattern in life. But pattern of what 'color' ? And the 'degree of color' is hard

to find out from astrological chart.

 

As one of the Astrologer told me that , " Astrology is not the live commentary

of life. " And i found it so true.

 

 

My message to Gopal is that please try to learn basic astrology first ( if you

are completely blank in astrology). I fould out KAS highly advanced form of

astrology. And its always better to go for bachelor degree before PhD.

 

So best wishes to Gopal in his journey.

 

 

Jagdish

ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

Dear Jagdish,

You wrote

" So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a wonderful

life instead

of planets with less than 4 points, you will start enjoying the

blessing you

got.

 

But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad idea

about your

life.

"

 

Ash: Please do not dissuade Gopal or Others from their exploration.

Let people have doubts and that is good. Accepting anything blindly

is of no use.

 

Without having doubts one cannot clear those doubts and in the

process of doing so they will learn a lot.

 

For your information, Ashtakvarg is not a subject to give broad idea

on life. It's very precice and very scientific.

 

Again to understand that u have to spend a lot of time and study

hard and with dedication.

 

Then after a few decades of sincere studies and solving thousands

and thousands of charts using KAS, u will not pass such casual

remark on this Jyotish Shastra.

 

Someone has said that Failure is a stepping stone to success so why

stop people especially from gaining knowledge?

 

No one learns to walk without falling a few times......

 

If you can help someone using your knowledge, you are more than

welcome, and in doing so u will only gain more knowedge, but please

do not stop anyone from probing or trying to clear their doubts.

Who knows tomorrow the same doubts will be raised by other new

commers and at that time their journey to clear their doubt, and by

sharing such knowledge will help others.

 

So Gopal, go ahead, and have as many doubts as u can, and if I may,

do not accept anything blindly. Work hard with dedication, and all

your doubts can /will be solved in due course of time.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, Prathamesn Chawan

<upaoakcrest wrote:

>

> Dear Gopal,

>

> As far i came to know about astrology (not from KAS but from

other group), there is no hard and fast rule. A person having many

good planets in 10th house can live the life of a hermit (Lord

Budha) and a person having many bad yogas can live the life of a

king (Osho).

>

> Rishi Parashara made few rules. New astrologers made few other

rules. Sometimes these rule contradict and exactly oppose each other.

>

> If astrologer says that this period of time is going to be

painful. Then how painful ? Having a headache is quite painful and

losing someone's part of body is also painful.

>

> I guess astrology gives a very broad idea but sometimes it works

and sometimes it complete failure. There are so many complication in

a horoscope that a person who is reading someone's chart must be

very very and very intelligent. And nothing should skip from his

eyes. And not only this, sometimes in a horscope there are

contradicting yogas. Now what an astrolgoer can do in this case ?

>

> It is very appreciative that you have gained so much in life and

almost living life happily. Till you have 'peace of mind' keep on

enjoying it as you will never know when the bad time will start.

>

> When first bad thing will happen in your life, you will take it

easy. Then second bad accident happen to you, you will struggle and

will try to beat it. Then third bad thing will happen in your life

and will be surprized and will start praying to God for peace. On

fourth bad accident, you will cry but will not lose the faith in

God. On 5th accident, you will become kind of 'revolting person'

somewhat like cursing ' God'. On 6th accident, you will start

crying and laughing at the same time but you will still pray to the

God for some divine help but nothing will happen. Tears will come,

you will pray to God but nothing will change and then there will be

the next morning.....

>

> ( it is not for you. I am just telling a general idea and how i

reacted on each accident)

>

> I guess i said too much.........

>

> So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a

wonderful life instead of planets with less than 4 points, you will

start enjoying the blessing you got.

>

> But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad

idea about your life.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Jagdish

>

> GOPAL <gopal_ks wrote:

> I've just started learning this system. So pardon my ignorance.

>

> Benefic planets are ones with more than 4 bindus per KAS

>

> Just like anyone else, checked out mine first. Found out that not

a

> single planent with more than 4 bindus in my chart.

>

> With not a single benefic planet, how could I've achieved fairly

> good life at a young age (education, decent job, marriage, kids,

> house etc., within age 30);

>

> Thanks,

> Gopal

>

> , " GOPAL "

> <gopal_ks@> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks everyone for their contribution. I feel excited about KAS

> > techniques and working on learning it.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Gopal

> >

> >

> > , ramesh mishra

> > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash, Gopal and list members, Namaskar,

> > > Thanks Ash for encouragements. It is you only who teach us

the

> > system. By virtue of your good guidance I think I can pick up

and

> > become your followers. Thanks once again.Let me proceed further

> for

> > future symtomps.Native is going through Sat antara from 05 Jun

> 2006

> > till 10 Apr 2009.Sat is FK for 11th and 12th house and situated

in

> > the second from 11th house.What circumstances may take place.Sat

> is

> > LoD for 9th house of luck and 10th house of authority

> respectively.

> > He is LoE for 1st house and 2nd house.Sat also aignifies third

and

> > seventh house by its placement in 12th house.It means Sat

> signifies

> > houses 1st,2nd,3rd,7th,9th and 10th..Sat is very powerful in all

> > these houses No doubt native may earn but side by side his

> > expenditure will go more than his income. Reason being Sat is

> having

> > more point in 12th house of expenses than that of 11th house of

> > income.Secondly Sat is weak in 4th house of income.

> > > At present Sat is transiting in Karka where he has only

three

> > points and Jup is transiting in Libra who also has 3

> > points.Therefore Jup and Sat total amounts come to only six

which

> is

> > less than eight.Since total transit points of these two planets

> are

> > less, they may give the difficulties , worries and the result

may

> > be unfavourable. Sat moves in Leo on 19 Oct 06 and Jup remains

in

> > Libra the total points during this transition are seven still

less

> > than eight But on 23 Oct 06 Jup moves into Scorpio then their

> > combine point raise to total nine which is a favourable

oppotunity

> > for the native Therefore whenever transit of Sat and Jup brings

> the

> > total more than eight point native may get the favourable result

> in

> > respect of his income. Will continue. Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra.

> > >

> > >

> > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > Dear Ramesh, Gopal and List Members,

> > > Well done. You have found out the issues.

> > >

> > > Ju current antra has less power in 6th house and 11th vs 12th

> > > comparision. 12th house points of Ju in WS is more than 11th

> > > points. So its quiet clear.

> > >

> > > Things like Ju being in 10th house with 4 bindus and in 32

> bindus

> > > house means more than 28 can't blindly mean that Ju antra will

> be

> > > good. Such things can be misleading. Yes say if lagna was

> Libra

> > > then that might become an exception. Here Ju would become LoD

> for

> > > 6th and LoE for 10th or Say if Capricorn was the lagna in that

> > case

> > > Ju might become LoE for 10th so it might be good for authority

> > (10th

> > > house) and that time we must see power of 6th etc etc etc.

> > >

> > > Another point you have given clearly too.

> > >

> > > Let study since start of Gopals career how this trend has been

> as

> > > Gopal has clearly said that he never had any savings despite

> good

> > > income.

> > >

> > > He started his career in 2000 before that it was more

education

> > > geared. That might be Venus antra. In Venus antra 12th

poitns

> > are

> > > more than 11th in WS with 11th house showing 11. So more

> expenses

> > > than income.

> > >

> > > Next came Sun antra. Sun has 21 points in 11th and 14 in

12th.

> > So

> > > here some savings but Sun antra is small only 4 months.

> > >

> > > Next came Moon in Mars AD. Moon has 14 points in 11th vs 19

> > points

> > > in 12th. So more expenses than income again. So no savings

or

> > some

> > > savings that were there in Sun antra were spent in Moon antra.

> > >

> > > After that Came Rahu. Rahu is SD to Venus. Venus again has

11

> > > points in 11th house and 16 points in 12th. AGain its showing

> > more

> > > expenses than income. This is in Rahu MD.

> > >

> > > Now Gopal is in Guru antra in Rahu MD. Guru has 18 points in

> 11th

> > > and 20 points in 12th at the same time it has 9 points in 6th

> > house

> > > and its SD to sun who is in 2nd house with 4 bindus so it will

> > also

> > > give worries. MF of Jupiter is also 0.5 as its in sign of

enemy.

> > >

> > > All the points in 12th house (of pleasures or as we call it

> Moksh)

> > > are good. All points of 7th, 4th (except for Sa) are all

good.

> > > Most of the power of power of planets in WS are good.

> > >

> > > DBCE pooints are in ascending order so Gopal if working cannot

> be

> > > happy with just an ordinary post. He needs more space or a

post

> > > wherein he can direct how work is done like a high post in a

> > company

> > > or CEO or he will eventually do his own business.

> > >

> > > Also here more expense as compared to expense is there so that

> > might

> > > be the driving factor too.

> > >

> > > Let us see how things pan out for Gopal in the future.

> > >

> > > In Mars and Moon antra more worries or say less authorty type

of

> > > jobs will be experienced. Ketu is also SD to Mars so similar

> > > experience in KEtu too.

> > >

> > > Other facts about intellegence etc are correct. Gopal has

more

> > > sectors of Mars and Mercury i.e. lagna , sun and moon in

> navamsa,

> > > drekkhana and trishansa. He might be daring and will take

> risks.

> > >

> > > Good attempt and congratz Ramesh, on your finding the root

cause

> > of

> > > such things. If one follows what is given in standard texts

on

> > > Ashtakvarg then he might be under impression that Jupiter

being

> in

> > > 10th house in 32 bindu house with netural power might be good

> for

> > > career in all cases which as per this example is not

accurate.

> > > Infact the only antra that will cause problems and lack of

> > happiness

> > > of 6th house is Guru.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , ramesh mishra

> > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar,

> > > > I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in my

> > hand.As

> > > is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and Moon

is

> > > 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is

> > 27:27:36:30

> > > in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and

Moon

> > the

> > > native is ready to take risk in life.

> > > > No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native lacks

> > > sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is in

Me

> > > divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second house.

> > Lesson

> > > 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always gives

> some

> > > obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and he

> > > occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24 points

> in

> > > 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of

Sat

> is

> > > more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of

> income.

> > > > Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is

very

> > > weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th (20)

> than

> > > that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes up

to

> > > Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu is

SD

> to

> > > Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th house

> than

> > > that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be

there

> > for

> > > native.

> > > > Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan karak

and

> > > 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies

dhansthaan.Similarly

> > Jup

> > > is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job

and

> he

> > > too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This Jup

and

> > 6th

> > > lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak and

> > bhagya

> > > karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ).

> > > > I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit in

> this

> > > chart.

> > > > Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house is

> > less

> > > than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a good

> > income

> > > compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th than

> the

> > 36

> > > in 11th house. In WS also Jup in 10th house has 17 points than

> the

> > > 18 in 11th house.Though it is almost equal.

> > > > Sir please check up my readings so far whether I am inline

> or

> > > some improvemetns is needed. I will advance further for

> occupation

> > > only after listening my approach from you. As per this chart

> > Native

> > > should do a business of Saturn related matters. Awaiting for

> your

> > > guidance.Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > GOPAL <gopal_ks@> wrote:

> > > > More data for further analysis

> > > >

> > > > 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income

> > > > 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000 but the

> > > actual

> > > > marriage took place on june-11-2001;

> > > > 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998

> > > > 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003

> > > > 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from june-

1998

> > to

> > > nov-

> > > > -2000.

> > > > 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst

(programmer)

> > and

> > > > working since then nov2000 to now.

> > > > 7) relocated within the company to texas from wisconsin on

> april-

> > > 30-

> > > > 2005.

> > > > 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and

expenses,

> > but

> > > > feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Gopal

> > > >

> > > > , Ash

> <ashsam73@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the

current

> > > antra

> > > > Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running.

> > > > >

> > > > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra. If

> 12th

> > > is

> > > > more than 11th then it means that the native is facing more

> > > expenses

> > > > than income.

> > > > >

> > > > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats

happening

> on

> > > the

> > > > job front.

> > > > >

> > > > > So if the native is facing problems in job then check

the

> > job

> > > > related houses and the power of the planets in WS for that

> > antra.

> > > > Check the next antra to see what will happen going forward

and

> > the

> > > > points of planets w.r.t. job related house.

> > > > >

> > > > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra that

> > Gopal

> > > is

> > > > in?

> > > > >

> > > > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of

> that?

> > > > >

> > > > > Check the natives brilliance of the native ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Check the career giving planets and ask the native in

> which

> > > field

> > > > is he in? Say the career givign planets are Venus, Venus,

> Venus

> > > > i.e .from 10th lords from lagna sun and moon and they are in

> > > navamsa

> > > > of Venus. If such a person is put in a mechanical

enginnering

> > > shop

> > > > floor he might be happy and he might eventually change his

> field

> > > to

> > > > somewhere where he can use his artistic knowledge and

flourish.

> > > > >

> > > > > Get an idea on the nature and capability of the person.

> > > > >

> > > > > SAV is for overall result, but WS is giving us power in

> > > specific

> > > > antras.

> > > > >

> > > > > So if 11th vs 12th points in SAV in 11th is more than

12th

> > > then

> > > > the person will have savings in his life, but what is

> happening

> > in

> > > a

> > > > particular antra we can see from WS.

> > > > >

> > > > > These are somethings I can check off the top of my

head.

> > Yes,

> > > I

> > > > am not dwleving into transit of Sa and Ju planets etc but u

> can

> > > get

> > > > into that slowly.

> > > > >

> > > > > So ask question but first make sure u get full idea of

the

> > > native

> > > > and his nature and the chart will reflect that.

> > > > >

> > > > > Again go through the lessons closely if u are stuck up.

> > > > >

> > > > > Try again using the above hints. But in general Gopal

> > asked,

> > > Ju

> > > > is in 10th house with 4 bindus and its in a house with 32

> bindus

> > > then

> > > > how come he is facing issues in job or unable to find a

better

> > > job?

> > > > >

> > > > > I beleive the understanding of Gopal is that if a planet

> is

> > in

> > > > 10th house and with netural bindus and if its in a house

with

> 32

> > > > points must mean that it should be good for job and career

but

> > > facts

> > > > are not reflecting the same?

> > > > >

> > > > > This is also what many people having limited knowledge

of

> > > > Ashtakvarg which is found in books might also have. So here

u

> > can

> > > > clear their doubts and give concrete results based on firm

> > grounds

> > > on

> > > > the importance of KAS in timing of event.

> > > > >

> > > > > Try again Ramesh, I have full confidence that u can just

> > look

> > > at

> > > > the WS and tell Gopal about his job and issues faced there

in

> > and

> > > > more expense than income.

> > > > >

> > > > > Other list members can also attempt the same who are

more

> > > > experienced with KAS.

> > > > > l

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > My Dear Ash, Namaskar,

> > > > > Sorry for overlooking the relationship between

> > > > > lagnalord and 9th lord.Before checking the chart I was

> > > > > checking that relationship but somehow missed it.Then

> > > > > I checked up in navamsa. Yes Sir, you are right both

> > > > > the lords are in karak sthaan thus nullifying the

> > > > > delay.and marriage is timely.

> > > > > Whereas expenditure should be less than his income as

> > > > > per SAV points in 11th and 12 house.Points in 12th

> > > > > house is less than that of 11th house His 12th house

> > > > > points and 10th house points are same and 11th house

> > > > > point is 32 which is more than that of 10th and

> > > > > 11th(30 points each).His DBCE from lagna is also in

> > > > > increasing order but this is not for

> > > > > expenditure.However chart is not before me so at

> > > > > present i can't see the planets contribution for 11th

> > > > > and 12th house from WS.Let you know next day.

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > --- ashsam73 wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > Very good that atleast you have first begun to check

> > > > > the authenticity

> > > > > of birth time. Mostly there might be 15 mins

> > > > > difference.

> > > > > Long back, in one of my conversations, Krushnaji had

> > > > > asked me to be

> > > > > thorough and make full effort to first make sure of

> > > > > birth time before

> > > > > venturing into prediction as Jyotish shastra is very

> > > > > noble science

> > > > > and its not a joke.

> > > > > I am very happy to see that u made an attempt to check

> > > > > some events.

> > > > > Yes, you found that something was amiss here.

> > > > >

> > > > > You have correctly noted delay. Here also note that

> > > > > 9th lord has

> > > > > gone into 2nd house and its with 1st lord in karak

> > > > > sthan. So that

> > > > > might play some part in reducing delay.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu is SD to Venus and Venus has 12 points. The

> > > > > antra before that

> > > > > in previous MD is that of Moon. Moon has highest power

> > > > > and is LoE.

> > > > >

> > > > > The birth time is in ball park i feel however there

> > > > > might be slight

> > > > > difference in time.

> > > > >

> > > > > I do not know when this marriage was fixed either.

> > > > > Sometimes there

> > > > > can be delays due to unavailabilty of good Mahurat

> > > > > that might case

> > > > > delays.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here if Gopal can give more details on when the

> > > > > marriage was fixed

> > > > > and we know when it was performed. In that case

> > > > > things will get

> > > > > sorted out.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ramesh, here Gopal has asked about Job and more exp

> > > > > than income. Are

> > > > > u able to see that in the WS?

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > > ramesh mishra

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal, Namaskar,

> > > > > > According to my chart Asc is 18 Le 59 so is Virgo

> > > > > navamsa.KAY is

> > > > > 22:37:40. I do not know myself about the correctness

> > > > > of the chart.

> > > > > Therefore first it is to be confirmed about its

> > > > > authenticity. However

> > > > > marriage took place in MD of Rahu and Rahu antara.

> > > > > Rahu is SD to Nk

> > > > > of Venus.Venus has got only 12 points for 7th house.

> > > > > > According to me Sat is 12th lord from 7th house of

> > > > > B. It occupies

> > > > > house E and aspecting house A, LoA, LoC. He is himself

> > > > > LoB also. In

> > > > > navamsa Ju is aspected by Sat.In navamsa Sat is 12th

> > > > > lord from House

> > > > > 7. This indicates the full delay . But in actual

> > > > > marriage was

> > > > > performed in the 25 th year of age which is normal

> > > > > according to

> > > > > Desh/Kaal/Patra. I think birth rectification should be

> > > > > checked.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ashsam73 wrote:

> > > > > > Please make sure of the time. Were your twins

> > > > > conceived in Jan

> > > > > 2005

> > > > > > or Jan 2006?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kindly refer to http://krushna.sageasita.com and

> > > > > cast your chart

> > > > > > using KAY.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also if u read the lessons you would know we do not

> > > > > use Prati antar

> > > > > > Dasha.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cast your chart and Worksheet and keep it for ready

> > > > > reference so

> > > > > > that members attempting your chart, their analysis

> > > > > using KAS you

> > > > > can

> > > > > > understand.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And out of courtesy sign your name please.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > > > " GOPAL "

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Time is known to be very accurate

> > > > > > > Marriage is MA/VE/SA ANTRA

> > > > > > > Twins were born at 37 weeks and so conception in

> > > > > mid jan 2006.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Income is relatively very high according to most

> > > > > but with the

> > > > > > number

> > > > > > > of kids and lifestyle I have more expenses than

> > > > > income. Expenses

> > > > > > > have shot up since Mar 2005 and so debt is growing

> > > > > which is

> > > > > > causing

> > > > > > > me to seek additional income through job change.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I need to know when I may get the break with

> > > > > regard to job

> > > > > change?

> > > > > > > Why is jupiter is behaving as a malefic with

> > > > > regard to job

> > > > > despite

> > > > > > > being in kendra(10th house) but as a benefic with

> > > > > regard to

> > > > > > > children. Jupiter does have 4 bindus in 10th house

> > > > > and the sarva

> > > > > > > score is 32 for that house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

> > > > > " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > > > > I am sure anyone who cast's the WS can easily

> > > > > tell u about the

> > > > > > > > reason for job.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > But I am taking this chart up to point out a

> > > > > special law that

> > > > > > > > Krushnaji had given in some old post explanation

> > > > > to the group.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This Gentleman had twin children with conception

> > > > > in about dec

> > > > > > 2004

> > > > > > > > i.e. in Guru antra. Can anyone say why he might

> > > > > have had twins

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > Ju antra?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hint : Anything special in WS power for 5th

> > > > > house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think this time maybe rectified. Marriage

> > > > > might have been in

> > > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > > antra so about 2 months or 1.5 months

> > > > > difference. This

> > > > > > gentleman

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > born in Ve MD so small change in time can change

> > > > > can reflect

> > > > > > large

> > > > > > > > change in start and end of dashsa.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In any case I am not spending time in rectifying

> > > > > the chart but

> > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > pointing this fact out.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For other things like Job, DBCE points, career

> > > > > etc I am sure

> > > > > > > anyone

> > > > > > > > who studies this chart and want to practice

> > > > > w.r.t career,

> > > > > > finances

> > > > > > > > etc can easily point out you have faced problems

> > > > > in Guru antra

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > quite possible u might have faced some

> > > > > challenges w.r.t

> > > > > > > debt/higher

> > > > > > > > expenses or less satisfaction with respect to

> > > > > income in Rahu

> > > > > > antra

> > > > > > > > too once the WS is cast and planets are studied

> > > > > closely.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

> > > > > " GOPAL "

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Have difficult finding a new job for the last

> > > > > 3 years or so.

> > > > > > > > Severe

> > > > > > > > > frustration on that account. Life is good

> > > > > otherwise, Can

> > > > > > anyone

> > > > > > > > > explain.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Gopal

> > > > > > > > > Birth Place: Chennai, India

> > > > > > > > > Birth Time: 4.54AM

> > > > > > > > > Birth Sep 23-1976.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Education: M.S

> > > > > > > > > Came to USA-July-4-1999 and living there since

> > > > > then.

> > > > > > > > > Marriage: June 11-2001

> > > > > > > > > Daughter: 1-12-2003

> > > > > > > > > Twins(boy and girl) - 9-27-2005

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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respected ashji,

So the planets in 12th house give best results for the houses which

they are lord. And the lord of the 12th house also gives good result

to the house where it goes too?

Do we see parivartan yoga of planets in KAS ?

Thanks/Regards

Harjeet

 

 

, Ash <ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Ramesh and Gopal,

>

> Check lagna / 7th, moon/7th and sun/7th. All are in 3:11 and 5:9.

>

> Gopal, as per KAS, planets in 12th house is good. It means that

the house ruled by them, the results of those house ruled by them get

enhanced.

>

> So 6th and 7th hosue results will be enhanced and that u are

experiencing.

>

> As per KAS, 6th house is the worst or say most malefic and 6th

lord is most malefic planet.

>

> As u know that 7th house from any house is having enimity. 1st is

SELF and 7th is Wife.

>

> 11th is self earned income v/s 5th is unearned income (so say

speculation or gambling etc).

>

> 9th is luck or furtune and 3rd is that of initiatives and hard

work or 9th is Father and 3rd is Mother.

>

> 10th is that of authority and 4th is that of home.

>

> 2nd is self earned wealth wheares 8th house is that of unearned

wealth (like inheritance or bonus).

>

> Now coming to 6th house and 12th house. 6th house is most malefic

that will make 12th house the most benefic house.

>

> 12th house is that of pleasures and moksh and by Moksh i mean not

after death but in this life time.

>

> So planets in 6th house we say as per KAS is like in a black hole

wheareas those planets in 12th house of the chart then the house ruled

by them, the results of which are enhanced.

>

> We also say that the house where the 12th house goes to, the

results of that house will get enhanced as per KAS.

>

> Your chart, moon is in 1st house so it will enhaced your

personality. 1st house is A for 6th. :)

>

> You will have a very nice and dedicated wife. Your relations will

be 3:11 and in 5:9.

>

> Apply this in many charts.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> GOPAL <gopal_ks wrote:

> Hi Ramesh,

>

> That is a good question because 7th lord in 12th house prompts that

> question. I'm immensely satisfied with my wife and she is a very

> dedicated person who looks after me and my children very well.

> Basically, say an excellent marital life. I am attributing to Venus

> in several of its own divisional charts. Usually, I am treated very

> well by women at job also.

>

> Lot of our problem have stemmed from the unplanned pregnancies

> causing financial hazard. Like travelling to India and bringing folks

> here to look after babies. Expenses are because of education (we

> educated ourself very well on our own), kids, travel to India, travel

> of parents from India to US, and maintain a large house. Basically

> for good purposes.

>

> We did buy a house in oct-2003 and sold it in apr-2005 for small

> profit so that we could relocate to Dallas from Milwaukee. We bought

> another house in dallas may-2-2005. I've had decent gains in stock

> (mid-2002 to mid 2003).

>

>

> Both pregnancies were unplanned

>

> Wife: Dec-13-1979- 8.15PM (Chennai, India)

>

> 1) Daughter was born jan-12-2003 (4.06PM Milwaukee)

> 2) Twins(boy and then girl) - 9-27-2005 (10.25PM and 10.35PM at

> Frisco, TX)

>

> Thanks,

> Gopal

>

> , ramesh mishra

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gopal, Namaskar,

> > I have few dobts by seeing your chart. I want to clear those if

> you feed me back. You are educated and earning well still you are

> suffering financially.I want to know about your married life. I find

> from your chart that you have something problem with your married

> life. May be your spouse does not cooperate with you. You may not be

> satisfied with the behaviour of your wife.Most of the expenditure is

> being expent to satisfy her needs and her various requirements.

> > Due to this expenses you are unable to fulfill your needs and

> requirements and thus you remain unsatisfied or something like that.

> I may be wrong also. But I need confirmation from you. It shall be

> helpful for me. Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > GOPAL wrote:

> > Thanks Ash. I like that approach of yours in seeking and

> imparting

> > knowledge to others.

> >

> > Even though life has been fairly happy and successful for me, I've

> > only got each one of those aspects with frustration, struggle and

> > delay; Definitely there is an answer to that in the KAS system.

> >

> > Hopefully in future, I can contribute to the forum like how you do

> > today. I like to emulate good things of others.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Gopal

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jagdish,

> > > You wrote

> > > " So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a

> > wonderful

> > > life instead

> > > of planets with less than 4 points, you will start enjoying the

> > > blessing you

> > > got.

> > >

> > > But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad

> > idea

> > > about your

> > > life.

> > > "

> > >

> > > Ash: Please do not dissuade Gopal or Others from their

> > exploration.

> > > Let people have doubts and that is good. Accepting anything

> > blindly

> > > is of no use.

> > >

> > > Without having doubts one cannot clear those doubts and in the

> > > process of doing so they will learn a lot.

> > >

> > > For your information, Ashtakvarg is not a subject to give broad

> > idea

> > > on life. It's very precice and very scientific.

> > >

> > > Again to understand that u have to spend a lot of time and study

> > > hard and with dedication.

> > >

> > > Then after a few decades of sincere studies and solving thousands

> > > and thousands of charts using KAS, u will not pass such casual

> > > remark on this Jyotish Shastra.

> > >

> > > Someone has said that Failure is a stepping stone to success so

> > why

> > > stop people especially from gaining knowledge?

> > >

> > > No one learns to walk without falling a few times......

> > >

> > > If you can help someone using your knowledge, you are more than

> > > welcome, and in doing so u will only gain more knowedge, but

> > please

> > > do not stop anyone from probing or trying to clear their doubts.

> > > Who knows tomorrow the same doubts will be raised by other new

> > > commers and at that time their journey to clear their doubt, and

> > by

> > > sharing such knowledge will help others.

> > >

> > > So Gopal, go ahead, and have as many doubts as u can, and if I

> > may,

> > > do not accept anything blindly. Work hard with dedication, and

> > all

> > > your doubts can /will be solved in due course of time.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , Prathamesn

> Chawan

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gopal,

> > > >

> > > > As far i came to know about astrology (not from KAS but from

> > > other group), there is no hard and fast rule. A person having

> many

> > > good planets in 10th house can live the life of a hermit (Lord

> > > Budha) and a person having many bad yogas can live the life of a

> > > king (Osho).

> > > >

> > > > Rishi Parashara made few rules. New astrologers made few

> other

> > > rules. Sometimes these rule contradict and exactly oppose each

> > other.

> > > >

> > > > If astrologer says that this period of time is going to be

> > > painful. Then how painful ? Having a headache is quite painful

> and

> > > losing someone's part of body is also painful.

> > > >

> > > > I guess astrology gives a very broad idea but sometimes it

> > works

> > > and sometimes it complete failure. There are so many complication

> > in

> > > a horoscope that a person who is reading someone's chart must be

> > > very very and very intelligent. And nothing should skip from his

> > > eyes. And not only this, sometimes in a horscope there are

> > > contradicting yogas. Now what an astrolgoer can do in this case ?

> > > >

> > > > It is very appreciative that you have gained so much in life

> > and

> > > almost living life happily. Till you have 'peace of mind' keep on

> > > enjoying it as you will never know when the bad time will start.

> > > >

> > > > When first bad thing will happen in your life, you will take

> > it

> > > easy. Then second bad accident happen to you, you will struggle

> > and

> > > will try to beat it. Then third bad thing will happen in your

> life

> > > and will be surprized and will start praying to God for peace. On

> > > fourth bad accident, you will cry but will not lose the faith in

> > > God. On 5th accident, you will become kind of 'revolting person'

> > > somewhat like cursing ' God'. On 6th accident, you will start

> > > crying and laughing at the same time but you will still pray to

> > the

> > > God for some divine help but nothing will happen. Tears will

> come,

> > > you will pray to God but nothing will change and then there will

> > be

> > > the next morning.....

> > > >

> > > > ( it is not for you. I am just telling a general idea and how

> > i

> > > reacted on each accident)

> > > >

> > > > I guess i said too much.........

> > > >

> > > > So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a

> > > wonderful life instead of planets with less than 4 points, you

> > will

> > > start enjoying the blessing you got.

> > > >

> > > > But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad

> > > idea about your life.

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes

> > > >

> > > > Jagdish

> > > >

> > > > GOPAL wrote:

> > > > I've just started learning this system. So pardon my

> > ignorance.

> > > >

> > > > Benefic planets are ones with more than 4 bindus per KAS

> > > >

> > > > Just like anyone else, checked out mine first. Found out that

> > not

> > > a

> > > > single planent with more than 4 bindus in my chart.

> > > >

> > > > With not a single benefic planet, how could I've achieved

> fairly

> > > > good life at a young age (education, decent job, marriage,

> kids,

> > > > house etc., within age 30);

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Gopal

> > > >

> > > > , " GOPAL "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks everyone for their contribution. I feel excited about

> > KAS

> > > > > techniques and working on learning it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Gopal

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , ramesh

> mishra

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash, Gopal and list members, Namaskar,

> > > > > > Thanks Ash for encouragements. It is you only who teach

> us

> > > the

> > > > > system. By virtue of your good guidance I think I can pick up

> > > and

> > > > > become your followers. Thanks once again.Let me proceed

> > further

> > > > for

> > > > > future symtomps.Native is going through Sat antara from 05

> Jun

> > > > 2006

> > > > > till 10 Apr 2009.Sat is FK for 11th and 12th house and

> > situated

> > > in

> > > > > the second from 11th house.What circumstances may take

> > place.Sat

> > > > is

> > > > > LoD for 9th house of luck and 10th house of authority

> > > > respectively.

> > > > > He is LoE for 1st house and 2nd house.Sat also aignifies

> third

> > > and

> > > > > seventh house by its placement in 12th house.It means Sat

> > > > signifies

> > > > > houses 1st,2nd,3rd,7th,9th and 10th..Sat is very powerful in

> > all

> > > > > these houses No doubt native may earn but side by side his

> > > > > expenditure will go more than his income. Reason being Sat is

> > > > having

> > > > > more point in 12th house of expenses than that of 11th house

> > of

> > > > > income.Secondly Sat is weak in 4th house of income.

> > > > > > At present Sat is transiting in Karka where he has only

> > > three

> > > > > points and Jup is transiting in Libra who also has 3

> > > > > points.Therefore Jup and Sat total amounts come to only six

> > > which

> > > > is

> > > > > less than eight.Since total transit points of these two

> > planets

> > > > are

> > > > > less, they may give the difficulties , worries and the

> result

> > > may

> > > > > be unfavourable. Sat moves in Leo on 19 Oct 06 and Jup

> remains

> > > in

> > > > > Libra the total points during this transition are seven still

> > > less

> > > > > than eight But on 23 Oct 06 Jup moves into Scorpio then their

> > > > > combine point raise to total nine which is a favourable

> > > oppotunity

> > > > > for the native Therefore whenever transit of Sat and Jup

> > brings

> > > > the

> > > > > total more than eight point native may get the favourable

> > result

> > > > in

> > > > > respect of his income. Will continue. Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ashsam73 wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Gopal and List Members,

> > > > > > Well done. You have found out the issues.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ju current antra has less power in 6th house and 11th vs

> > 12th

> > > > > > comparision. 12th house points of Ju in WS is more than

> > 11th

> > > > > > points. So its quiet clear.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Things like Ju being in 10th house with 4 bindus and in 32

> > > > bindus

> > > > > > house means more than 28 can't blindly mean that Ju antra

> > will

> > > > be

> > > > > > good. Such things can be misleading. Yes say if lagna was

> > > > Libra

> > > > > > then that might become an exception. Here Ju would become

> > LoD

> > > > for

> > > > > > 6th and LoE for 10th or Say if Capricorn was the lagna in

> > that

> > > > > case

> > > > > > Ju might become LoE for 10th so it might be good for

> > authority

> > > > > (10th

> > > > > > house) and that time we must see power of 6th etc etc etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Another point you have given clearly too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let study since start of Gopals career how this trend has

> > been

> > > > as

> > > > > > Gopal has clearly said that he never had any savings

> despite

> > > > good

> > > > > > income.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He started his career in 2000 before that it was more

> > > education

> > > > > > geared. That might be Venus antra. In Venus antra 12th

> > > poitns

> > > > > are

> > > > > > more than 11th in WS with 11th house showing 11. So more

> > > > expenses

> > > > > > than income.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Next came Sun antra. Sun has 21 points in 11th and 14 in

> > > 12th.

> > > > > So

> > > > > > here some savings but Sun antra is small only 4 months.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Next came Moon in Mars AD. Moon has 14 points in 11th vs

> 19

> > > > > points

> > > > > > in 12th. So more expenses than income again. So no

> savings

> > > or

> > > > > some

> > > > > > savings that were there in Sun antra were spent in Moon

> > antra.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After that Came Rahu. Rahu is SD to Venus. Venus again

> has

> > > 11

> > > > > > points in 11th house and 16 points in 12th. AGain its

> > showing

> > > > > more

> > > > > > expenses than income. This is in Rahu MD.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now Gopal is in Guru antra in Rahu MD. Guru has 18 points

> > in

> > > > 11th

> > > > > > and 20 points in 12th at the same time it has 9 points in

> > 6th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > and its SD to sun who is in 2nd house with 4 bindus so it

> > will

> > > > > also

> > > > > > give worries. MF of Jupiter is also 0.5 as its in sign of

> > > enemy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > All the points in 12th house (of pleasures or as we call it

> > > > Moksh)

> > > > > > are good. All points of 7th, 4th (except for Sa) are all

> > > good.

> > > > > > Most of the power of power of planets in WS are good.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > DBCE pooints are in ascending order so Gopal if working

> > cannot

> > > > be

> > > > > > happy with just an ordinary post. He needs more space or a

> > > post

> > > > > > wherein he can direct how work is done like a high post in

> a

> > > > > company

> > > > > > or CEO or he will eventually do his own business.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also here more expense as compared to expense is there so

> > that

> > > > > might

> > > > > > be the driving factor too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let us see how things pan out for Gopal in the future.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In Mars and Moon antra more worries or say less authorty

> > type

> > > of

> > > > > > jobs will be experienced. Ketu is also SD to Mars so

> > similar

> > > > > > experience in KEtu too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Other facts about intellegence etc are correct. Gopal has

> > > more

> > > > > > sectors of Mars and Mercury i.e. lagna , sun and moon in

> > > > navamsa,

> > > > > > drekkhana and trishansa. He might be daring and will take

> > > > risks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Good attempt and congratz Ramesh, on your finding the root

> > > cause

> > > > > of

> > > > > > such things. If one follows what is given in standard

> texts

> > > on

> > > > > > Ashtakvarg then he might be under impression that Jupiter

> > > being

> > > > in

> > > > > > 10th house in 32 bindu house with netural power might be

> > good

> > > > for

> > > > > > career in all cases which as per this example is not

> > > accurate.

> > > > > > Infact the only antra that will cause problems and lack of

> > > > > happiness

> > > > > > of 6th house is Guru.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , ramesh

> > mishra

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar,

> > > > > > > I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in

> my

> > > > > hand.As

> > > > > > is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and

> > Moon

> > > is

> > > > > > 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is

> > > > > 27:27:36:30

> > > > > > in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and

> > > Moon

> > > > > the

> > > > > > native is ready to take risk in life.

> > > > > > > No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native

> lacks

> > > > > > sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is

> > in

> > > Me

> > > > > > divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second

> house.

> > > > > Lesson

> > > > > > 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always

> gives

> > > > some

> > > > > > obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and

> > he

> > > > > > occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24

> > points

> > > > in

> > > > > > 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of

> > > Sat

> > > > is

> > > > > > more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of

> > > > income.

> > > > > > > Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is

> > > very

> > > > > > weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th

> (20)

> > > > than

> > > > > > that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes

> > up

> > > to

> > > > > > Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu

> is

> > > SD

> > > > to

> > > > > > Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th

> house

> > > > than

> > > > > > that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be

> > > there

> > > > > for

> > > > > > native.

> > > > > > > Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan

> karak

> > > and

> > > > > > 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies

> > > dhansthaan.Similarly

> > > > > Jup

> > > > > > is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job

> > > and

> > > > he

> > > > > > too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This

> Jup

> > > and

> > > > > 6th

> > > > > > lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak

> and

> > > > > bhagya

> > > > > > karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ).

> > > > > > > I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit

> > in

> > > > this

> > > > > > chart.

> > > > > > > Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house

> > is

> > > > > less

> > > > > > than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a

> good

> > > > > income

> > > > > > compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th

> > than

> > > > the

> > > > > 36

> > > > > > in 11th house. In WS also Jup in 10th house has 17 points

> > than

> > > > the

> > > > > > 18 in 11th house.Though it is almost equal.

> > > > > > > Sir please check up my readings so far whether I am

> > inline

> > > > or

> > > > > > some improvemetns is needed. I will advance further for

> > > > occupation

> > > > > > only after listening my approach from you. As per this

> chart

> > > > > Native

> > > > > > should do a business of Saturn related matters. Awaiting

> for

> > > > your

> > > > > > guidance.Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > GOPAL wrote:

> > > > > > > More data for further analysis

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1) I've never had savings in life despite good income

> > > > > > > 2) Engagement for marriage took place on oct-18-2000 but

> > the

> > > > > > actual

> > > > > > > marriage took place on june-11-2001;

> > > > > > > 3) BE(computer science) - 1994-1998

> > > > > > > 4) MS in engineering and management - nov 2000 to 2003

> > > > > > > 5) Working as a consultant for telecome company from june-

> > > 1998

> > > > > to

> > > > > > nov-

> > > > > > > -2000.

> > > > > > > 6) client(telecom) hired me as a senior IT analyst

> > > (programmer)

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > working since then nov2000 to now.

> > > > > > > 7) relocated within the company to texas from wisconsin

> on

> > > > april-

> > > > > > 30-

> > > > > > > 2005.

> > > > > > > 8) Have never been happy with the job in my life and

> > > expenses,

> > > > > but

> > > > > > > feel immensely satisifed with every other aspect.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > Gopal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Ash

> > > >

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > > > I do not have the chart in front of me. Check the

> > > current

> > > > > > antra

> > > > > > > Gopal is in and the previous antra that was running.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Then check the 11th v/s 12th points in those antra.

> > If

> > > > 12th

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > more than 11th then it means that the native is facing

> > more

> > > > > > expenses

> > > > > > > than income.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Check the 6th house and 10th house to see whats

> > > happening

> > > > on

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > job front.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So if the native is facing problems in job then check

> > > the

> > > > > job

> > > > > > > related houses and the power of the planets in WS for

> that

> > > > > antra.

> > > > > > > Check the next antra to see what will happen going

> forward

> > > and

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > points of planets w.r.t. job related house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So what do u see happening now in the current antra

> > that

> > > > > Gopal

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > in?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If DBCE points are rising then what is the meaning of

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Dear Harjeet,

One sec, before u confuse yourself, try to read carefully what I said.

 

I said that the planets that are placed in 12th house the result of the house

ruled by them will get enhanced. Now result means Quality and not timing. Do

not confused the two. What I have said is to do with quality.

 

Similarly the result of the house meaning quality will be enhanced where 12th

lord goes and sits.

 

Again this is to do with quality and not timing.

 

Study the lesson on Multiplication factor closely. Partivartan is covered in

that.

 

All your questions in this mail have been w.r.t quality of event and not

timing.

 

For timing follow the lessons.

 

In order to ascertain quality of job, one must get a job (Timing of event).

 

For timing we have got worksheet.

 

If u notice most people and the trend of questions they ask are for example,

When will i get married? (Timing) or When will I secure a job (Timing), When

will my health improve (Timing) etc.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

harjeet_bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:

respected ashji,

So the planets in 12th house give best results for the houses which

they are lord. And the lord of the 12th house also gives good result

to the house where it goes too?

Do we see parivartan yoga of planets in KAS ?

Thanks/Regards

Harjeet

 

 

, Ash wrote:

>

> Dear Ramesh and Gopal,

>

> Check lagna / 7th, moon/7th and sun/7th. All are in 3:11 and 5:9.

>

> Gopal, as per KAS, planets in 12th house is good. It means that

the house ruled by them, the results of those house ruled by them get

enhanced.

>

> So 6th and 7th hosue results will be enhanced and that u are

experiencing.

>

> As per KAS, 6th house is the worst or say most malefic and 6th

lord is most malefic planet.

>

> As u know that 7th house from any house is having enimity. 1st is

SELF and 7th is Wife.

>

> 11th is self earned income v/s 5th is unearned income (so say

speculation or gambling etc).

>

> 9th is luck or furtune and 3rd is that of initiatives and hard

work or 9th is Father and 3rd is Mother.

>

> 10th is that of authority and 4th is that of home.

>

> 2nd is self earned wealth wheares 8th house is that of unearned

wealth (like inheritance or bonus).

>

> Now coming to 6th house and 12th house. 6th house is most malefic

that will make 12th house the most benefic house.

>

> 12th house is that of pleasures and moksh and by Moksh i mean not

after death but in this life time.

>

> So planets in 6th house we say as per KAS is like in a black hole

wheareas those planets in 12th house of the chart then the house ruled

by them, the results of which are enhanced.

>

> We also say that the house where the 12th house goes to, the

results of that house will get enhanced as per KAS.

>

> Your chart, moon is in 1st house so it will enhaced your

personality. 1st house is A for 6th. :)

>

> You will have a very nice and dedicated wife. Your relations will

be 3:11 and in 5:9.

>

> Apply this in many charts.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> GOPAL wrote:

> Hi Ramesh,

>

> That is a good question because 7th lord in 12th house prompts that

> question. I'm immensely satisfied with my wife and she is a very

> dedicated person who looks after me and my children very well.

> Basically, say an excellent marital life. I am attributing to Venus

> in several of its own divisional charts. Usually, I am treated very

> well by women at job also.

>

> Lot of our problem have stemmed from the unplanned pregnancies

> causing financial hazard. Like travelling to India and bringing folks

> here to look after babies. Expenses are because of education (we

> educated ourself very well on our own), kids, travel to India, travel

> of parents from India to US, and maintain a large house. Basically

> for good purposes.

>

> We did buy a house in oct-2003 and sold it in apr-2005 for small

> profit so that we could relocate to Dallas from Milwaukee. We bought

> another house in dallas may-2-2005. I've had decent gains in stock

> (mid-2002 to mid 2003).

>

>

> Both pregnancies were unplanned

>

> Wife: Dec-13-1979- 8.15PM (Chennai, India)

>

> 1) Daughter was born jan-12-2003 (4.06PM Milwaukee)

> 2) Twins(boy and then girl) - 9-27-2005 (10.25PM and 10.35PM at

> Frisco, TX)

>

> Thanks,

> Gopal

>

> , ramesh mishra

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gopal, Namaskar,

> > I have few dobts by seeing your chart. I want to clear those if

> you feed me back. You are educated and earning well still you are

> suffering financially.I want to know about your married life. I find

> from your chart that you have something problem with your married

> life. May be your spouse does not cooperate with you. You may not be

> satisfied with the behaviour of your wife.Most of the expenditure is

> being expent to satisfy her needs and her various requirements.

> > Due to this expenses you are unable to fulfill your needs and

> requirements and thus you remain unsatisfied or something like that.

> I may be wrong also. But I need confirmation from you. It shall be

> helpful for me. Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > GOPAL wrote:

> > Thanks Ash. I like that approach of yours in seeking and

> imparting

> > knowledge to others.

> >

> > Even though life has been fairly happy and successful for me, I've

> > only got each one of those aspects with frustration, struggle and

> > delay; Definitely there is an answer to that in the KAS system.

> >

> > Hopefully in future, I can contribute to the forum like how you do

> > today. I like to emulate good things of others.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Gopal

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jagdish,

> > > You wrote

> > > " So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a

> > wonderful

> > > life instead

> > > of planets with less than 4 points, you will start enjoying the

> > > blessing you

> > > got.

> > >

> > > But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad

> > idea

> > > about your

> > > life.

> > > "

> > >

> > > Ash: Please do not dissuade Gopal or Others from their

> > exploration.

> > > Let people have doubts and that is good. Accepting anything

> > blindly

> > > is of no use.

> > >

> > > Without having doubts one cannot clear those doubts and in the

> > > process of doing so they will learn a lot.

> > >

> > > For your information, Ashtakvarg is not a subject to give broad

> > idea

> > > on life. It's very precice and very scientific.

> > >

> > > Again to understand that u have to spend a lot of time and study

> > > hard and with dedication.

> > >

> > > Then after a few decades of sincere studies and solving thousands

> > > and thousands of charts using KAS, u will not pass such casual

> > > remark on this Jyotish Shastra.

> > >

> > > Someone has said that Failure is a stepping stone to success so

> > why

> > > stop people especially from gaining knowledge?

> > >

> > > No one learns to walk without falling a few times......

> > >

> > > If you can help someone using your knowledge, you are more than

> > > welcome, and in doing so u will only gain more knowedge, but

> > please

> > > do not stop anyone from probing or trying to clear their doubts.

> > > Who knows tomorrow the same doubts will be raised by other new

> > > commers and at that time their journey to clear their doubt, and

> > by

> > > sharing such knowledge will help others.

> > >

> > > So Gopal, go ahead, and have as many doubts as u can, and if I

> > may,

> > > do not accept anything blindly. Work hard with dedication, and

> > all

> > > your doubts can /will be solved in due course of time.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , Prathamesn

> Chawan

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gopal,

> > > >

> > > > As far i came to know about astrology (not from KAS but from

> > > other group), there is no hard and fast rule. A person having

> many

> > > good planets in 10th house can live the life of a hermit (Lord

> > > Budha) and a person having many bad yogas can live the life of a

> > > king (Osho).

> > > >

> > > > Rishi Parashara made few rules. New astrologers made few

> other

> > > rules. Sometimes these rule contradict and exactly oppose each

> > other.

> > > >

> > > > If astrologer says that this period of time is going to be

> > > painful. Then how painful ? Having a headache is quite painful

> and

> > > losing someone's part of body is also painful.

> > > >

> > > > I guess astrology gives a very broad idea but sometimes it

> > works

> > > and sometimes it complete failure. There are so many complication

> > in

> > > a horoscope that a person who is reading someone's chart must be

> > > very very and very intelligent. And nothing should skip from his

> > > eyes. And not only this, sometimes in a horscope there are

> > > contradicting yogas. Now what an astrolgoer can do in this case ?

> > > >

> > > > It is very appreciative that you have gained so much in life

> > and

> > > almost living life happily. Till you have 'peace of mind' keep on

> > > enjoying it as you will never know when the bad time will start.

> > > >

> > > > When first bad thing will happen in your life, you will take

> > it

> > > easy. Then second bad accident happen to you, you will struggle

> > and

> > > will try to beat it. Then third bad thing will happen in your

> life

> > > and will be surprized and will start praying to God for peace. On

> > > fourth bad accident, you will cry but will not lose the faith in

> > > God. On 5th accident, you will become kind of 'revolting person'

> > > somewhat like cursing ' God'. On 6th accident, you will start

> > > crying and laughing at the same time but you will still pray to

> > the

> > > God for some divine help but nothing will happen. Tears will

> come,

> > > you will pray to God but nothing will change and then there will

> > be

> > > the next morning.....

> > > >

> > > > ( it is not for you. I am just telling a general idea and how

> > i

> > > reacted on each accident)

> > > >

> > > > I guess i said too much.........

> > > >

> > > > So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a

> > > wonderful life instead of planets with less than 4 points, you

> > will

> > > start enjoying the blessing you got.

> > > >

> > > > But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad

> > > idea about your life.

> > > >

> > > > Best Wishes

> > > >

> > > > Jagdish

> > > >

> > > > GOPAL wrote:

> > > > I've just started learning this system. So pardon my

> > ignorance.

> > > >

> > > > Benefic planets are ones with more than 4 bindus per KAS

> > > >

> > > > Just like anyone else, checked out mine first. Found out that

> > not

> > > a

> > > > single planent with more than 4 bindus in my chart.

> > > >

> > > > With not a single benefic planet, how could I've achieved

> fairly

> > > > good life at a young age (education, decent job, marriage,

> kids,

> > > > house etc., within age 30);

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Gopal

> > > >

> > > > , " GOPAL "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks everyone for their contribution. I feel excited about

> > KAS

> > > > > techniques and working on learning it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Gopal

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , ramesh

> mishra

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash, Gopal and list members, Namaskar,

> > > > > > Thanks Ash for encouragements. It is you only who teach

> us

> > > the

> > > > > system. By virtue of your good guidance I think I can pick up

> > > and

> > > > > become your followers. Thanks once again.Let me proceed

> > further

> > > > for

> > > > > future symtomps.Native is going through Sat antara from 05

> Jun

> > > > 2006

> > > > > till 10 Apr 2009.Sat is FK for 11th and 12th house and

> > situated

> > > in

> > > > > the second from 11th house.What circumstances may take

> > place.Sat

> > > > is

> > > > > LoD for 9th house of luck and 10th house of authority

> > > > respectively.

> > > > > He is LoE for 1st house and 2nd house.Sat also aignifies

> third

> > > and

> > > > > seventh house by its placement in 12th house.It means Sat

> > > > signifies

> > > > > houses 1st,2nd,3rd,7th,9th and 10th..Sat is very powerful in

> > all

> > > > > these houses No doubt native may earn but side by side his

> > > > > expenditure will go more than his income. Reason being Sat is

> > > > having

> > > > > more point in 12th house of expenses than that of 11th house

> > of

> > > > > income.Secondly Sat is weak in 4th house of income.

> > > > > > At present Sat is transiting in Karka where he has only

> > > three

> > > > > points and Jup is transiting in Libra who also has 3

> > > > > points.Therefore Jup and Sat total amounts come to only six

> > > which

> > > > is

> > > > > less than eight.Since total transit points of these two

> > planets

> > > > are

> > > > > less, they may give the difficulties , worries and the

> result

> > > may

> > > > > be unfavourable. Sat moves in Leo on 19 Oct 06 and Jup

> remains

> > > in

> > > > > Libra the total points during this transition are seven still

> > > less

> > > > > than eight But on 23 Oct 06 Jup moves into Scorpio then their

> > > > > combine point raise to total nine which is a favourable

> > > oppotunity

> > > > > for the native Therefore whenever transit of Sat and Jup

> > brings

> > > > the

> > > > > total more than eight point native may get the favourable

> > result

> > > > in

> > > > > respect of his income. Will continue. Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ashsam73 wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Gopal and List Members,

> > > > > > Well done. You have found out the issues.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ju current antra has less power in 6th house and 11th vs

> > 12th

> > > > > > comparision. 12th house points of Ju in WS is more than

> > 11th

> > > > > > points. So its quiet clear.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Things like Ju being in 10th house with 4 bindus and in 32

> > > > bindus

> > > > > > house means more than 28 can't blindly mean that Ju antra

> > will

> > > > be

> > > > > > good. Such things can be misleading. Yes say if lagna was

> > > > Libra

> > > > > > then that might become an exception. Here Ju would become

> > LoD

> > > > for

> > > > > > 6th and LoE for 10th or Say if Capricorn was the lagna in

> > that

> > > > > case

> > > > > > Ju might become LoE for 10th so it might be good for

> > authority

> > > > > (10th

> > > > > > house) and that time we must see power of 6th etc etc etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Another point you have given clearly too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let study since start of Gopals career how this trend has

> > been

> > > > as

> > > > > > Gopal has clearly said that he never had any savings

> despite

> > > > good

> > > > > > income.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He started his career in 2000 before that it was more

> > > education

> > > > > > geared. That might be Venus antra. In Venus antra 12th

> > > poitns

> > > > > are

> > > > > > more than 11th in WS with 11th house showing 11. So more

> > > > expenses

> > > > > > than income.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Next came Sun antra. Sun has 21 points in 11th and 14 in

> > > 12th.

> > > > > So

> > > > > > here some savings but Sun antra is small only 4 months.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Next came Moon in Mars AD. Moon has 14 points in 11th vs

> 19

> > > > > points

> > > > > > in 12th. So more expenses than income again. So no

> savings

> > > or

> > > > > some

> > > > > > savings that were there in Sun antra were spent in Moon

> > antra.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After that Came Rahu. Rahu is SD to Venus. Venus again

> has

> > > 11

> > > > > > points in 11th house and 16 points in 12th. AGain its

> > showing

> > > > > more

> > > > > > expenses than income. This is in Rahu MD.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now Gopal is in Guru antra in Rahu MD. Guru has 18 points

> > in

> > > > 11th

> > > > > > and 20 points in 12th at the same time it has 9 points in

> > 6th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > and its SD to sun who is in 2nd house with 4 bindus so it

> > will

> > > > > also

> > > > > > give worries. MF of Jupiter is also 0.5 as its in sign of

> > > enemy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > All the points in 12th house (of pleasures or as we call it

> > > > Moksh)

> > > > > > are good. All points of 7th, 4th (except for Sa) are all

> > > good.

> > > > > > Most of the power of power of planets in WS are good.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > DBCE pooints are in ascending order so Gopal if working

> > cannot

> > > > be

> > > > > > happy with just an ordinary post. He needs more space or a

> > > post

> > > > > > wherein he can direct how work is done like a high post in

> a

> > > > > company

> > > > > > or CEO or he will eventually do his own business.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also here more expense as compared to expense is there so

> > that

> > > > > might

> > > > > > be the driving factor too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let us see how things pan out for Gopal in the future.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In Mars and Moon antra more worries or say less authorty

> > type

> > > of

> > > > > > jobs will be experienced. Ketu is also SD to Mars so

> > similar

> > > > > > experience in KEtu too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Other facts about intellegence etc are correct. Gopal has

> > > more

> > > > > > sectors of Mars and Mercury i.e. lagna , sun and moon in

> > > > navamsa,

> > > > > > drekkhana and trishansa. He might be daring and will take

> > > > risks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Good attempt and congratz Ramesh, on your finding the root

> > > cause

> > > > > of

> > > > > > such things. If one follows what is given in standard

> texts

> > > on

> > > > > > Ashtakvarg then he might be under impression that Jupiter

> > > being

> > > > in

> > > > > > 10th house in 32 bindu house with netural power might be

> > good

> > > > for

> > > > > > career in all cases which as per this example is not

> > > accurate.

> > > > > > Infact the only antra that will cause problems and lack of

> > > > > happiness

> > > > > > of 6th house is Guru.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , ramesh

> > mishra

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar,

> > > > > > > I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in

> my

> > > > > hand.As

> > > > > > is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and

> > Moon

> > > is

> > > > > > 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is

> > > > > 27:27:36:30

> > > > > > in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and

> > > Moon

> > > > > the

> > > > > > native is ready to take risk in life.

> > > > > > > No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native

> lacks

> > > > > > sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is

> > in

> > > Me

> > > > > > divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second

> house.

> > > > > Lesson

> > > > > > 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always

> gives

> > > > some

> > > > > > obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and

> > he

> > > > > > occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24

> > points

> > > > in

> > > > > > 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of

> > > Sat

> > > > is

> > > > > > more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of

> > > > income.

> > > > > > > Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is

> > > very

> > > > > > weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th

> (20)

> > > > than

> > > > > > that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes

> > up

> > > to

> > > > > > Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu

> is

> > > SD

> > > > to

> > > > > > Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th

> house

> > > > than

> > > > > > that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be

> > > there

> > > > > for

> > > > > > native.

> > > > > > > Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan

> karak

> > > and

> > > > > > 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies

> > > dhansthaan.Similarly

> > > > > Jup

> > > > > > is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job

> > > and

> > > > he

> > > > > > too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This

> Jup

> > > and

> > > > > 6th

> > > > > > lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak

> and

> > > > > bhagya

> > > > > > karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ).

> > > > > > > I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit

> > in

> > > > this

> > > > > > chart.

> > > > > > > Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house

> > is

> > > > > less

> > > > > > than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a

> good

> > > > > income

> > > > > > compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th

 

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thanks very much ashji,

 

 

, Ash <ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

> One sec, before u confuse yourself, try to read carefully what I said.

>

> I said that the planets that are placed in 12th house the result

of the house ruled by them will get enhanced. Now result means

Quality and not timing. Do not confused the two. What I have said is

to do with quality.

>

> Similarly the result of the house meaning quality will be enhanced

where 12th lord goes and sits.

>

> Again this is to do with quality and not timing.

>

> Study the lesson on Multiplication factor closely. Partivartan is

covered in that.

>

> All your questions in this mail have been w.r.t quality of event

and not timing.

>

> For timing follow the lessons.

>

> In order to ascertain quality of job, one must get a job (Timing

of event).

>

> For timing we have got worksheet.

>

> If u notice most people and the trend of questions they ask are

for example, When will i get married? (Timing) or When will I secure a

job (Timing), When will my health improve (Timing) etc.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> harjeet_bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:

> respected ashji,

> So the planets in 12th house give best results for the houses which

> they are lord. And the lord of the 12th house also gives good result

> to the house where it goes too?

> Do we see parivartan yoga of planets in KAS ?

> Thanks/Regards

> Harjeet

>

>

> , Ash wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramesh and Gopal,

> >

> > Check lagna / 7th, moon/7th and sun/7th. All are in 3:11 and 5:9.

> >

> > Gopal, as per KAS, planets in 12th house is good. It means that

> the house ruled by them, the results of those house ruled by them get

> enhanced.

> >

> > So 6th and 7th hosue results will be enhanced and that u are

> experiencing.

> >

> > As per KAS, 6th house is the worst or say most malefic and 6th

> lord is most malefic planet.

> >

> > As u know that 7th house from any house is having enimity. 1st is

> SELF and 7th is Wife.

> >

> > 11th is self earned income v/s 5th is unearned income (so say

> speculation or gambling etc).

> >

> > 9th is luck or furtune and 3rd is that of initiatives and hard

> work or 9th is Father and 3rd is Mother.

> >

> > 10th is that of authority and 4th is that of home.

> >

> > 2nd is self earned wealth wheares 8th house is that of unearned

> wealth (like inheritance or bonus).

> >

> > Now coming to 6th house and 12th house. 6th house is most malefic

> that will make 12th house the most benefic house.

> >

> > 12th house is that of pleasures and moksh and by Moksh i mean not

> after death but in this life time.

> >

> > So planets in 6th house we say as per KAS is like in a black hole

> wheareas those planets in 12th house of the chart then the house ruled

> by them, the results of which are enhanced.

> >

> > We also say that the house where the 12th house goes to, the

> results of that house will get enhanced as per KAS.

> >

> > Your chart, moon is in 1st house so it will enhaced your

> personality. 1st house is A for 6th. :)

> >

> > You will have a very nice and dedicated wife. Your relations will

> be 3:11 and in 5:9.

> >

> > Apply this in many charts.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > GOPAL wrote:

> > Hi Ramesh,

> >

> > That is a good question because 7th lord in 12th house prompts that

> > question. I'm immensely satisfied with my wife and she is a very

> > dedicated person who looks after me and my children very well.

> > Basically, say an excellent marital life. I am attributing to Venus

> > in several of its own divisional charts. Usually, I am treated very

> > well by women at job also.

> >

> > Lot of our problem have stemmed from the unplanned pregnancies

> > causing financial hazard. Like travelling to India and bringing folks

> > here to look after babies. Expenses are because of education (we

> > educated ourself very well on our own), kids, travel to India, travel

> > of parents from India to US, and maintain a large house. Basically

> > for good purposes.

> >

> > We did buy a house in oct-2003 and sold it in apr-2005 for small

> > profit so that we could relocate to Dallas from Milwaukee. We bought

> > another house in dallas may-2-2005. I've had decent gains in stock

> > (mid-2002 to mid 2003).

> >

> >

> > Both pregnancies were unplanned

> >

> > Wife: Dec-13-1979- 8.15PM (Chennai, India)

> >

> > 1) Daughter was born jan-12-2003 (4.06PM Milwaukee)

> > 2) Twins(boy and then girl) - 9-27-2005 (10.25PM and 10.35PM at

> > Frisco, TX)

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Gopal

> >

> > , ramesh mishra

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Gopal, Namaskar,

> > > I have few dobts by seeing your chart. I want to clear those if

> > you feed me back. You are educated and earning well still you are

> > suffering financially.I want to know about your married life. I find

> > from your chart that you have something problem with your married

> > life. May be your spouse does not cooperate with you. You may not be

> > satisfied with the behaviour of your wife.Most of the expenditure is

> > being expent to satisfy her needs and her various requirements.

> > > Due to this expenses you are unable to fulfill your needs and

> > requirements and thus you remain unsatisfied or something like that.

> > I may be wrong also. But I need confirmation from you. It shall be

> > helpful for me. Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > GOPAL wrote:

> > > Thanks Ash. I like that approach of yours in seeking and

> > imparting

> > > knowledge to others.

> > >

> > > Even though life has been fairly happy and successful for me, I've

> > > only got each one of those aspects with frustration, struggle and

> > > delay; Definitely there is an answer to that in the KAS system.

> > >

> > > Hopefully in future, I can contribute to the forum like how you do

> > > today. I like to emulate good things of others.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Gopal

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Jagdish,

> > > > You wrote

> > > > " So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a

> > > wonderful

> > > > life instead

> > > > of planets with less than 4 points, you will start enjoying the

> > > > blessing you

> > > > got.

> > > >

> > > > But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad

> > > idea

> > > > about your

> > > > life.

> > > > "

> > > >

> > > > Ash: Please do not dissuade Gopal or Others from their

> > > exploration.

> > > > Let people have doubts and that is good. Accepting anything

> > > blindly

> > > > is of no use.

> > > >

> > > > Without having doubts one cannot clear those doubts and in the

> > > > process of doing so they will learn a lot.

> > > >

> > > > For your information, Ashtakvarg is not a subject to give broad

> > > idea

> > > > on life. It's very precice and very scientific.

> > > >

> > > > Again to understand that u have to spend a lot of time and study

> > > > hard and with dedication.

> > > >

> > > > Then after a few decades of sincere studies and solving thousands

> > > > and thousands of charts using KAS, u will not pass such casual

> > > > remark on this Jyotish Shastra.

> > > >

> > > > Someone has said that Failure is a stepping stone to success so

> > > why

> > > > stop people especially from gaining knowledge?

> > > >

> > > > No one learns to walk without falling a few times......

> > > >

> > > > If you can help someone using your knowledge, you are more than

> > > > welcome, and in doing so u will only gain more knowedge, but

> > > please

> > > > do not stop anyone from probing or trying to clear their doubts.

> > > > Who knows tomorrow the same doubts will be raised by other new

> > > > commers and at that time their journey to clear their doubt, and

> > > by

> > > > sharing such knowledge will help others.

> > > >

> > > > So Gopal, go ahead, and have as many doubts as u can, and if I

> > > may,

> > > > do not accept anything blindly. Work hard with dedication, and

> > > all

> > > > your doubts can /will be solved in due course of time.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > , Prathamesn

> > Chawan

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Gopal,

> > > > >

> > > > > As far i came to know about astrology (not from KAS but from

> > > > other group), there is no hard and fast rule. A person having

> > many

> > > > good planets in 10th house can live the life of a hermit (Lord

> > > > Budha) and a person having many bad yogas can live the life of a

> > > > king (Osho).

> > > > >

> > > > > Rishi Parashara made few rules. New astrologers made few

> > other

> > > > rules. Sometimes these rule contradict and exactly oppose each

> > > other.

> > > > >

> > > > > If astrologer says that this period of time is going to be

> > > > painful. Then how painful ? Having a headache is quite painful

> > and

> > > > losing someone's part of body is also painful.

> > > > >

> > > > > I guess astrology gives a very broad idea but sometimes it

> > > works

> > > > and sometimes it complete failure. There are so many complication

> > > in

> > > > a horoscope that a person who is reading someone's chart must be

> > > > very very and very intelligent. And nothing should skip from his

> > > > eyes. And not only this, sometimes in a horscope there are

> > > > contradicting yogas. Now what an astrolgoer can do in this case ?

> > > > >

> > > > > It is very appreciative that you have gained so much in life

> > > and

> > > > almost living life happily. Till you have 'peace of mind' keep on

> > > > enjoying it as you will never know when the bad time will start.

> > > > >

> > > > > When first bad thing will happen in your life, you will take

> > > it

> > > > easy. Then second bad accident happen to you, you will struggle

> > > and

> > > > will try to beat it. Then third bad thing will happen in your

> > life

> > > > and will be surprized and will start praying to God for peace. On

> > > > fourth bad accident, you will cry but will not lose the faith in

> > > > God. On 5th accident, you will become kind of 'revolting person'

> > > > somewhat like cursing ' God'. On 6th accident, you will start

> > > > crying and laughing at the same time but you will still pray to

> > > the

> > > > God for some divine help but nothing will happen. Tears will

> > come,

> > > > you will pray to God but nothing will change and then there will

> > > be

> > > > the next morning.....

> > > > >

> > > > > ( it is not for you. I am just telling a general idea and how

> > > i

> > > > reacted on each accident)

> > > > >

> > > > > I guess i said too much.........

> > > > >

> > > > > So i hope instead of contemplating why you are having a

> > > > wonderful life instead of planets with less than 4 points, you

> > > will

> > > > start enjoying the blessing you got.

> > > > >

> > > > > But anyway, try to learn astrology. It will give you a broad

> > > > idea about your life.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Wishes

> > > > >

> > > > > Jagdish

> > > > >

> > > > > GOPAL wrote:

> > > > > I've just started learning this system. So pardon my

> > > ignorance.

> > > > >

> > > > > Benefic planets are ones with more than 4 bindus per KAS

> > > > >

> > > > > Just like anyone else, checked out mine first. Found out that

> > > not

> > > > a

> > > > > single planent with more than 4 bindus in my chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > With not a single benefic planet, how could I've achieved

> > fairly

> > > > > good life at a young age (education, decent job, marriage,

> > kids,

> > > > > house etc., within age 30);

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Gopal

> > > > >

> > > > > , " GOPAL "

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks everyone for their contribution. I feel excited about

> > > KAS

> > > > > > techniques and working on learning it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Gopal

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , ramesh

> > mishra

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash, Gopal and list members, Namaskar,

> > > > > > > Thanks Ash for encouragements. It is you only who teach

> > us

> > > > the

> > > > > > system. By virtue of your good guidance I think I can pick up

> > > > and

> > > > > > become your followers. Thanks once again.Let me proceed

> > > further

> > > > > for

> > > > > > future symtomps.Native is going through Sat antara from 05

> > Jun

> > > > > 2006

> > > > > > till 10 Apr 2009.Sat is FK for 11th and 12th house and

> > > situated

> > > > in

> > > > > > the second from 11th house.What circumstances may take

> > > place.Sat

> > > > > is

> > > > > > LoD for 9th house of luck and 10th house of authority

> > > > > respectively.

> > > > > > He is LoE for 1st house and 2nd house.Sat also aignifies

> > third

> > > > and

> > > > > > seventh house by its placement in 12th house.It means Sat

> > > > > signifies

> > > > > > houses 1st,2nd,3rd,7th,9th and 10th..Sat is very powerful in

> > > all

> > > > > > these houses No doubt native may earn but side by side his

> > > > > > expenditure will go more than his income. Reason being Sat is

> > > > > having

> > > > > > more point in 12th house of expenses than that of 11th house

> > > of

> > > > > > income.Secondly Sat is weak in 4th house of income.

> > > > > > > At present Sat is transiting in Karka where he has only

> > > > three

> > > > > > points and Jup is transiting in Libra who also has 3

> > > > > > points.Therefore Jup and Sat total amounts come to only six

> > > > which

> > > > > is

> > > > > > less than eight.Since total transit points of these two

> > > planets

> > > > > are

> > > > > > less, they may give the difficulties , worries and the

> > result

> > > > may

> > > > > > be unfavourable. Sat moves in Leo on 19 Oct 06 and Jup

> > remains

> > > > in

> > > > > > Libra the total points during this transition are seven still

> > > > less

> > > > > > than eight But on 23 Oct 06 Jup moves into Scorpio then their

> > > > > > combine point raise to total nine which is a favourable

> > > > oppotunity

> > > > > > for the native Therefore whenever transit of Sat and Jup

> > > brings

> > > > > the

> > > > > > total more than eight point native may get the favourable

> > > result

> > > > > in

> > > > > > respect of his income. Will continue. Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Gopal and List Members,

> > > > > > > Well done. You have found out the issues.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ju current antra has less power in 6th house and 11th vs

> > > 12th

> > > > > > > comparision. 12th house points of Ju in WS is more than

> > > 11th

> > > > > > > points. So its quiet clear.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Things like Ju being in 10th house with 4 bindus and in 32

> > > > > bindus

> > > > > > > house means more than 28 can't blindly mean that Ju antra

> > > will

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > good. Such things can be misleading. Yes say if lagna was

> > > > > Libra

> > > > > > > then that might become an exception. Here Ju would become

> > > LoD

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > 6th and LoE for 10th or Say if Capricorn was the lagna in

> > > that

> > > > > > case

> > > > > > > Ju might become LoE for 10th so it might be good for

> > > authority

> > > > > > (10th

> > > > > > > house) and that time we must see power of 6th etc etc etc.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Another point you have given clearly too.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let study since start of Gopals career how this trend has

> > > been

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > Gopal has clearly said that he never had any savings

> > despite

> > > > > good

> > > > > > > income.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He started his career in 2000 before that it was more

> > > > education

> > > > > > > geared. That might be Venus antra. In Venus antra 12th

> > > > poitns

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > more than 11th in WS with 11th house showing 11. So more

> > > > > expenses

> > > > > > > than income.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Next came Sun antra. Sun has 21 points in 11th and 14 in

> > > > 12th.

> > > > > > So

> > > > > > > here some savings but Sun antra is small only 4 months.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Next came Moon in Mars AD. Moon has 14 points in 11th vs

> > 19

> > > > > > points

> > > > > > > in 12th. So more expenses than income again. So no

> > savings

> > > > or

> > > > > > some

> > > > > > > savings that were there in Sun antra were spent in Moon

> > > antra.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After that Came Rahu. Rahu is SD to Venus. Venus again

> > has

> > > > 11

> > > > > > > points in 11th house and 16 points in 12th. AGain its

> > > showing

> > > > > > more

> > > > > > > expenses than income. This is in Rahu MD.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now Gopal is in Guru antra in Rahu MD. Guru has 18 points

> > > in

> > > > > 11th

> > > > > > > and 20 points in 12th at the same time it has 9 points in

> > > 6th

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > and its SD to sun who is in 2nd house with 4 bindus so it

> > > will

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > give worries. MF of Jupiter is also 0.5 as its in sign of

> > > > enemy.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > All the points in 12th house (of pleasures or as we call it

> > > > > Moksh)

> > > > > > > are good. All points of 7th, 4th (except for Sa) are all

> > > > good.

> > > > > > > Most of the power of power of planets in WS are good.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > DBCE pooints are in ascending order so Gopal if working

> > > cannot

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > happy with just an ordinary post. He needs more space or a

> > > > post

> > > > > > > wherein he can direct how work is done like a high post in

> > a

> > > > > > company

> > > > > > > or CEO or he will eventually do his own business.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also here more expense as compared to expense is there so

> > > that

> > > > > > might

> > > > > > > be the driving factor too.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let us see how things pan out for Gopal in the future.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In Mars and Moon antra more worries or say less authorty

> > > type

> > > > of

> > > > > > > jobs will be experienced. Ketu is also SD to Mars so

> > > similar

> > > > > > > experience in KEtu too.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Other facts about intellegence etc are correct. Gopal has

> > > > more

> > > > > > > sectors of Mars and Mercury i.e. lagna , sun and moon in

> > > > > navamsa,

> > > > > > > drekkhana and trishansa. He might be daring and will take

> > > > > risks.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Good attempt and congratz Ramesh, on your finding the root

> > > > cause

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > such things. If one follows what is given in standard

> > texts

> > > > on

> > > > > > > Ashtakvarg then he might be under impression that Jupiter

> > > > being

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > 10th house in 32 bindu house with netural power might be

> > > good

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > career in all cases which as per this example is not

> > > > accurate.

> > > > > > > Infact the only antra that will cause problems and lack of

> > > > > > happiness

> > > > > > > of 6th house is Guru.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , ramesh

> > > mishra

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Gopal,Namaskar,

> > > > > > > > I am trying to find out the culprit from the chart in

> > my

> > > > > > hand.As

> > > > > > > is visible from the chart the DBCE points from lagna and

> > > Moon

> > > > is

> > > > > > > 29:30:32:36 in an increasing order. The DBCE from Sun is

> > > > > > 27:27:36:30

> > > > > > > in zig zag way.Since the increasing order is from lagna and

> > > > Moon

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > native is ready to take risk in life.

> > > > > > > > No planet is in divisions of Saturn, so the native

> > lacks

> > > > > > > sharpness of mind and intelligence. Most of the planets is

> > > in

> > > > Me

> > > > > > > divisions. Here Me is second lord and occupies second

> > house.

> > > > > > Lesson

> > > > > > > 21 states that the second house lord and its SD always

> > gives

> > > > > some

> > > > > > > obstruction and worries.Similarly here 6th lord is Sat and

> > > he

> > > > > > > occupies malefically in the house of expenses.Sa has 24

> > > points

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > 12th house than that of 17 in 11th house. The SAV points of

> > > > Sat

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > more in 12 th house of expenses than that of 11th house of

> > > > > income.

> > > > > > > > Presently the native is going through Jup antara.Jup is

> > > > very

> > > > > > > weak in 6th house. Jup has also more SAV points in 12th

> > (20)

> > > > > than

> > > > > > > that of 11th ( 18 ).The Jup and thereafter Sat antara goes

> > > up

> > > > to

> > > > > > > Apr/2009.Before Jup native went through Rahu antara. Rahu

> > is

> > > > SD

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > Venus. Therefore Venus also has SAV 11 points for 11th

> > house

> > > > > than

> > > > > > > that of 16 points for 12th house.This imbalance has to be

> > > > there

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > native.

> > > > > > > > Here in the chart I have noticed that Mars is dhan

> > karak

> > > > and

> > > > > > > 12th lord from 10th house, and he occupies

> > > > dhansthaan.Similarly

> > > > > > Jup

> > > > > > > is karaka for authority and 12th lord from 6th house of job

> > > > and

> > > > > he

> > > > > > > too occupies the 10th house of authority and status.This

> > Jup

> > > > and

> > > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > lord Sat aspects the Sun the Nk of authority ,dhan karak

> > and

> > > > > > bhagya

> > > > > > > karak Mars and karaka for 7th house ( 10th from 10th ).

> > > > > > > > I think the dictum " karakah bhawah nashaya " keeps fit

> > > in

> > > > > this

> > > > > > > chart.

> > > > > > > > Ash Sir, lesson states that if the points in 10th house

> > > is

> > > > > > less

> > > > > > > than the points of the 11th, then the person receives a

> > good

> > > > > > income

> > > > > > > compared to his labour. The native has 32 points in 10th

>

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