Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Hey Ash, why dont you answer these quesyions, so we all can learn? --Manoshi , Ash <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Manoshi, > What about Ra and Ke and Mo antra? > Do you see any chance there? > Cheers !!! > Ash > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: > Dear Ramesh, > > I am sure you must have understood after the discussion why the > native is not married yet. Saturn causes delay (all the three houses > or house lords are aspected by Saturn in Navamsa). Jupiter though > shows some power to give marriage,it aspects house A, so only Mars > is the planet that remains to give marriage. Now during recent Mars > antra, the native was in his delay period, so could not get married. > So yo are right, he has to wait for his coming Mars antra to get > married. Let's hope for the best anyways. > > A special thanks to Ash for guiding me along to understand this. > > --Manoshi > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > There is a problem in today. ALl messages are coming in a > > random order. Anyways, pasting my reply again. > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > ok, as I understand from your query, you are saying that if in > > Navamsa Saturn is related to A,B,C then it can cause delay. Well, > > that I did not know. ok, point noted. > > > > next is about GURU. > > > > GURU can give event or not??? though it has 13 points..NO, it is > > aspecting house A, so according to laws it cannot, even if the time > > comes. SO what remains is only Mars. Now if you consider satrun > > delay, then Mars antra is over when delay is still there. so > > marriage could not happen. Now, no other planet is strong enough to > > givemarriage, so MArs will give next....hmmm...I think I now know > > why the native is unmarried. > > > > thanx > > Manoshi > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > Ju's delay is there and u are correct. I am asking about Shani? > > > > > > I am also asking u, can this Ju give marriage in its antra. If > it > > > can what is the reason? and if it cant what is the reason? > > > > > > I hope its clear now. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > What about Jupiter? Well, it's in saturn sign so of course > > cannot > > > > reduce delay but it's definitely causing delay. The person may > > not > > > > be having very strong leadership qualities but that's a > > different > > > > issue. In any case, I am not timing marriage in Jupiter antra > > but > > > > Mars antra. I dont know what you meant. clarify please. > > > > > > > > BTW, did you find the reason for native's unmarried status? > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > What about Jupiter, > > > > > Do you think Ju can furnish timing despite having 13 > points? > > > > > Can you give your opinion on this Jupiter i.e can it give > > > timing > > > > or not. If it can give what is the reason and if it can't > what > > is > > > > the reason? > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > What about Shani's delay? > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember the theory Krushna Ji had told once, for Taurus > > > > lagna, > > > > > if > > > > > > 1st and 7th hosue lords are in 2:12 then there can be even > > > > denial > > > > > of > > > > > > marriage. You must have seen that the Jupiter is the delay > > > > causing > > > > > > planet in this chart. Jupiter's delay should end when it > > > enters > > > > > > Pisces as it then aspects 7th lord(Mars), which is in > > January > > > > 99. > > > > > > Mars antra starts in 1999 March, so there are good chances > > > that > > > > he > > > > > > could have got married in Mars antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > May be Krushna ji can guide why this did not happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash, what's your opinion? > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh > > mishra > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala and list members, > > > > > > > Namaskar to all, > > > > > > > Here is the chart of a male native who was born on 30 > Jun > > > 1974 > > > > > > at 3;35 am .The place of birth is 23 N 22 and 85 E 21 > India. > > > > > > > This native is still unmarried and working in a private > > > > > company > > > > > > as a public relations manager. When I saw his chart I > found > > > the > > > > > > following combinations for marriage.The Asc is rising 21 > Ta > > > 26, > > > > Mo > > > > > > is at 23 Li 08 and Su is at 15 Ge 10. > > > > > > > Su and Ve is 33 deg 03 min apart < 43 deg. Lagna lord > and > > > 9th > > > > > > lord is in 2/12 position. Sat is in house A and aspecting > > > house > > > > C. > > > > > > In navamsa Sat is LoB and he is aspecting both the > > luminaries > > > as > > > > > > well as Venus. Jup is not in Libra and Ve too is not in > > > > Krittika.. > > > > > > Ve is 6th lord too and he is in Asc. Ju and Ve is in 4/10 > > > > > > combinations. Jup is with 7 bindus in Aq and Ve is with 5 > > > bindus > > > > > in > > > > > > Ta. Therefore 6th lord Ve is controlling Ju who is Loc for > > 7th > > > > > > house.There is no zero in the BAV. > > > > > > > Only Mar and Jup is having >12 points and other planets > > are > > > > > very > > > > > > weak with < 12 points.The native is running Mer- Mer at > > > > > present.Mer > > > > > > is having only 6 points for 7th house.Me is LoA and in > House > > > A , > > > > > > therefore his antara will not give marriage. Next antara > is > > of > > > > > Ketu > > > > > > who is SD to Ve and Ve is also weak and 6th lord. Ve is Nk > > for > > > > > > marriage. Being the karaka weak ,his SD Ketu also can't > give > > > > > > marriage.Like that following antaras of Sun and Moon also > > will > > > > not > > > > > > give marriage.Though the Sun is LoD but he got only 09 > > points > > > > for > > > > > > 7th house.I think Sun is incompetent to give marriage . > Moon > > > is > > > > in > > > > > > 12th from house B and he is also weak.Mars follows the Mo > > > antara > > > > > and > > > > > > he is a strong significator and LoE too , therefore Mars > can > > > > give > > > > > > the result of house B.Mars antara is through > > > > > > > 19 Mar 2014 and 17 Mar 2015. During this period native > > will > > > be > > > > > > 39 +. > > > > > > > Therefore I request all of you that " Is my calculation on > > the > > > > > > line " and thus can we say this the denial of marriage ? > > > Please > > > > > > intervene your experiences on this chart. > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket > > > > > > > Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies > > all > > > > the > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 I have studied the chart and am asking u to give your opinion. This is an exercise in SD. Spoon feeding eh? lol Cheers !!! Ash Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: Hey Ash, why dont you answer these quesyions, so we all can learn? --Manoshi , Ash wrote: > > Dear Manoshi, > What about Ra and Ke and Mo antra? > Do you see any chance there? > Cheers !!! > Ash > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote: > Dear Ramesh, > > I am sure you must have understood after the discussion why the > native is not married yet. Saturn causes delay (all the three houses > or house lords are aspected by Saturn in Navamsa). Jupiter though > shows some power to give marriage,it aspects house A, so only Mars > is the planet that remains to give marriage. Now during recent Mars > antra, the native was in his delay period, so could not get married. > So yo are right, he has to wait for his coming Mars antra to get > married. Let's hope for the best anyways. > > A special thanks to Ash for guiding me along to understand this. > > --Manoshi > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > There is a problem in today. ALl messages are coming in a > > random order. Anyways, pasting my reply again. > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > ok, as I understand from your query, you are saying that if in > > Navamsa Saturn is related to A,B,C then it can cause delay. Well, > > that I did not know. ok, point noted. > > > > next is about GURU. > > > > GURU can give event or not??? though it has 13 points..NO, it is > > aspecting house A, so according to laws it cannot, even if the time > > comes. SO what remains is only Mars. Now if you consider satrun > > delay, then Mars antra is over when delay is still there. so > > marriage could not happen. Now, no other planet is strong enough to > > givemarriage, so MArs will give next....hmmm...I think I now know > > why the native is unmarried. > > > > thanx > > Manoshi > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > Ju's delay is there and u are correct. I am asking about Shani? > > > > > > I am also asking u, can this Ju give marriage in its antra. If > it > > > can what is the reason? and if it cant what is the reason? > > > > > > I hope its clear now. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > What about Jupiter? Well, it's in saturn sign so of course > > cannot > > > > reduce delay but it's definitely causing delay. The person may > > not > > > > be having very strong leadership qualities but that's a > > different > > > > issue. In any case, I am not timing marriage in Jupiter antra > > but > > > > Mars antra. I dont know what you meant. clarify please. > > > > > > > > BTW, did you find the reason for native's unmarried status? > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > What about Jupiter, > > > > > Do you think Ju can furnish timing despite having 13 > points? > > > > > Can you give your opinion on this Jupiter i.e can it give > > > timing > > > > or not. If it can give what is the reason and if it can't > what > > is > > > > the reason? > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > What about Shani's delay? > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember the theory Krushna Ji had told once, for Taurus > > > > lagna, > > > > > if > > > > > > 1st and 7th hosue lords are in 2:12 then there can be even > > > > denial > > > > > of > > > > > > marriage. You must have seen that the Jupiter is the delay > > > > causing > > > > > > planet in this chart. Jupiter's delay should end when it > > > enters > > > > > > Pisces as it then aspects 7th lord(Mars), which is in > > January > > > > 99. > > > > > > Mars antra starts in 1999 March, so there are good chances > > > that > > > > he > > > > > > could have got married in Mars antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > May be Krushna ji can guide why this did not happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash, what's your opinion? > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh > > mishra > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala and list members, > > > > > > > Namaskar to all, > > > > > > > Here is the chart of a male native who was born on 30 > Jun > > > 1974 > > > > > > at 3;35 am .The place of birth is 23 N 22 and 85 E 21 > India. > > > > > > > This native is still unmarried and working in a private > > > > > company > > > > > > as a public relations manager. When I saw his chart I > found > > > the > > > > > > following combinations for marriage.The Asc is rising 21 > Ta > > > 26, > > > > Mo > > > > > > is at 23 Li 08 and Su is at 15 Ge 10. > > > > > > > Su and Ve is 33 deg 03 min apart < 43 deg. Lagna lord > and > > > 9th > > > > > > lord is in 2/12 position. Sat is in house A and aspecting > > > house > > > > C. > > > > > > In navamsa Sat is LoB and he is aspecting both the > > luminaries > > > as > > > > > > well as Venus. Jup is not in Libra and Ve too is not in > > > > Krittika.. > > > > > > Ve is 6th lord too and he is in Asc. Ju and Ve is in 4/10 > > > > > > combinations. Jup is with 7 bindus in Aq and Ve is with 5 > > > bindus > > > > > in > > > > > > Ta. Therefore 6th lord Ve is controlling Ju who is Loc for > > 7th > > > > > > house.There is no zero in the BAV. > > > > > > > Only Mar and Jup is having >12 points and other planets > > are > > > > > very > > > > > > weak with < 12 points.The native is running Mer- Mer at > > > > > present.Mer > > > > > > is having only 6 points for 7th house.Me is LoA and in > House > > > A , > > > > > > therefore his antara will not give marriage. Next antara > is > > of > > > > > Ketu > > > > > > who is SD to Ve and Ve is also weak and 6th lord. Ve is Nk > > for > > > > > > marriage. Being the karaka weak ,his SD Ketu also can't > give > > > > > > marriage.Like that following antaras of Sun and Moon also > > will > > > > not > > > > > > give marriage.Though the Sun is LoD but he got only 09 > > points > > > > for > > > > > > 7th house.I think Sun is incompetent to give marriage . > Moon > > > is > > > > in > > > > > > 12th from house B and he is also weak.Mars follows the Mo > > > antara > > > > > and > > > > > > he is a strong significator and LoE too , therefore Mars > can > > > > give > > > > > > the result of house B.Mars antara is through > > > > > > > 19 Mar 2014 and 17 Mar 2015. During this period native > > will > > > be > > > > > > 39 +. > > > > > > > Therefore I request all of you that " Is my calculation on > > the > > > > > > line " and thus can we say this the denial of marriage ? > > > Please > > > > > > intervene your experiences on this chart. > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket > > > > > > > Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies > > all > > > > the > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 well... rather asking the Master...I will reply when I get time to look into the chart again. --Manoshi <ashsam73 wrote: > > I have studied the chart and am asking u to give your opinion. > This is an exercise in SD. > Spoon feeding eh? lol > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: > Hey Ash, why dont you answer these quesyions, so we all can learn? > > --Manoshi > > > , Ash > wrote: > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > What about Ra and Ke and Mo antra? > > Do you see any chance there? > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > I am sure you must have understood after the discussion why the > > native is not married yet. Saturn causes delay (all the three > houses > > or house lords are aspected by Saturn in Navamsa). Jupiter though > > shows some power to give marriage,it aspects house A, so only Mars > > is the planet that remains to give marriage. Now during recent > Mars > > antra, the native was in his delay period, so could not get > married. > > So yo are right, he has to wait for his coming Mars antra to get > > married. Let's hope for the best anyways. > > > > A special thanks to Ash for guiding me along to understand this. > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > There is a problem in today. ALl messages are coming in a > > > random order. Anyways, pasting my reply again. > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > ok, as I understand from your query, you are saying that if in > > > Navamsa Saturn is related to A,B,C then it can cause delay. Well, > > > that I did not know. ok, point noted. > > > > > > next is about GURU. > > > > > > GURU can give event or not??? though it has 13 points..NO, it is > > > aspecting house A, so according to laws it cannot, even if the > time > > > comes. SO what remains is only Mars. Now if you consider satrun > > > delay, then Mars antra is over when delay is still there. so > > > marriage could not happen. Now, no other planet is strong enough > to > > > givemarriage, so MArs will give next....hmmm...I think I now know > > > why the native is unmarried. > > > > > > thanx > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > Ju's delay is there and u are correct. I am asking about Shani? > > > > > > > > I am also asking u, can this Ju give marriage in its antra. If > > it > > > > can what is the reason? and if it cant what is the reason? > > > > > > > > I hope its clear now. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > What about Jupiter? Well, it's in saturn sign so of course > > > cannot > > > > > reduce delay but it's definitely causing delay. The person > may > > > not > > > > > be having very strong leadership qualities but that's a > > > different > > > > > issue. In any case, I am not timing marriage in Jupiter > antra > > > but > > > > > Mars antra. I dont know what you meant. clarify please. > > > > > > > > > > BTW, did you find the reason for native's unmarried status? > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > What about Jupiter, > > > > > > Do you think Ju can furnish timing despite having 13 > > points? > > > > > > Can you give your opinion on this Jupiter i.e can it give > > > > timing > > > > > or not. If it can give what is the reason and if it can't > > what > > > is > > > > > the reason? > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > What about Shani's delay? > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " Manoshi > > > > > > Chatterjee " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember the theory Krushna Ji had told once, for > Taurus > > > > > lagna, > > > > > > if > > > > > > > 1st and 7th hosue lords are in 2:12 then there can be > even > > > > > denial > > > > > > of > > > > > > > marriage. You must have seen that the Jupiter is the > delay > > > > > causing > > > > > > > planet in this chart. Jupiter's delay should end when it > > > > enters > > > > > > > Pisces as it then aspects 7th lord(Mars), which is in > > > January > > > > > 99. > > > > > > > Mars antra starts in 1999 March, so there are good > chances > > > > that > > > > > he > > > > > > > could have got married in Mars antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May be Krushna ji can guide why this did not happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash, what's your opinion? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh > > > mishra > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala and list members, > > > > > > > > Namaskar to all, > > > > > > > > Here is the chart of a male native who was born on 30 > > Jun > > > > 1974 > > > > > > > at 3;35 am .The place of birth is 23 N 22 and 85 E 21 > > India. > > > > > > > > This native is still unmarried and working in a > private > > > > > > company > > > > > > > as a public relations manager. When I saw his chart I > > found > > > > the > > > > > > > following combinations for marriage.The Asc is rising 21 > > Ta > > > > 26, > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > is at 23 Li 08 and Su is at 15 Ge 10. > > > > > > > > Su and Ve is 33 deg 03 min apart < 43 deg. Lagna lord > > and > > > > 9th > > > > > > > lord is in 2/12 position. Sat is in house A and > aspecting > > > > house > > > > > C. > > > > > > > In navamsa Sat is LoB and he is aspecting both the > > > luminaries > > > > as > > > > > > > well as Venus. Jup is not in Libra and Ve too is not in > > > > > Krittika.. > > > > > > > Ve is 6th lord too and he is in Asc. Ju and Ve is in > 4/10 > > > > > > > combinations. Jup is with 7 bindus in Aq and Ve is with > 5 > > > > bindus > > > > > > in > > > > > > > Ta. Therefore 6th lord Ve is controlling Ju who is Loc > for > > > 7th > > > > > > > house.There is no zero in the BAV. > > > > > > > > Only Mar and Jup is having >12 points and other > planets > > > are > > > > > > very > > > > > > > weak with < 12 points.The native is running Mer- Mer at > > > > > > present.Mer > > > > > > > is having only 6 points for 7th house.Me is LoA and in > > House > > > > A , > > > > > > > therefore his antara will not give marriage. Next antara > > is > > > of > > > > > > Ketu > > > > > > > who is SD to Ve and Ve is also weak and 6th lord. Ve is > Nk > > > for > > > > > > > marriage. Being the karaka weak ,his SD Ketu also can't > > give > > > > > > > marriage.Like that following antaras of Sun and Moon > also > > > will > > > > > not > > > > > > > give marriage.Though the Sun is LoD but he got only 09 > > > points > > > > > for > > > > > > > 7th house.I think Sun is incompetent to give marriage . > > Moon > > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > 12th from house B and he is also weak.Mars follows the > Mo > > > > antara > > > > > > and > > > > > > > he is a strong significator and LoE too , therefore Mars > > can > > > > > give > > > > > > > the result of house B.Mars antara is through > > > > > > > > 19 Mar 2014 and 17 Mar 2015. During this period native > > > will > > > > be > > > > > > > 39 +. > > > > > > > > Therefore I request all of you that " Is my calculation > on > > > the > > > > > > > line " and thus can we say this the denial of marriage ? > > > > Please > > > > > > > intervene your experiences on this chart. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jiyo cricket on India cricket > > > > > > > > Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your > buddies > > > all > > > > > the > > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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