Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Dear Sri Rayadu, Ramesh, and All, Sri Rayadu, you picked up Mercury antra, which shows you could see the strength of Mercury antra. So in a way you are right, but why not other antras? You gave to the delay, but here Ramesh was right. Ramesh you are right in saying that the delay is cancelled due to 1st and 9th lords being in 5:9 positions. Then why marriage did not take place just after 21 years? Here is how I did it. If anyone feels the reasoning is not right, we can discuss on that and get guidance from Krushna ji. Planet Degrees As 0 Ta 13 Su 20 Cn 54 Mo 2 Cp 2 Ma 9 Ta 57 Me 1 Cn 45 JuR 1 Sg 43 Ve 3 Le 3 SaR 20 Sg 42 Ra 24 Le 47 Ke 24 Aq 47 21 years is the legal age for marriage. *Native enters Rahu antra in 1981. EXPLANATION: When we see the quality of marriage, the venus-sun distance, Jupiter's position, Venus nakshatra etc seems to be ok, so considering marriage may not be bad or below average for happiness, we may say that marriage will take place in high points and not in 6th lords period. Now Rahu is SD to venus(6th lord), so I ignored Rahu. *Next native enters Jupiter antra. Why not this antra? EXPLANATION: Though Jupiter is powerful in WS but Jupiter aspects 2nd house (house A). Any planet (exception LoE/LoD) in general, aspecting house A, B, C cannot give the event. *Next is Saturn. Same reason, it aspects house A. * then comes Mercury. EXPLANATION: Mercury is strong in WS, it's SD to Sun(LoD). So marriage will take place. Marriage would take place in 1st sector, as there is no delay. for pdf, I dont how much I am right, I am not very good at fixing pdf. I would take when sun passes over nakshatra of Sun and Mars. Which is 11th May to 24th May. Marriage took place on 7th June. BALA, DADHI are good at fixing pdf. What do you say? thanks Manoshi , " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Thank you Manoshi. > Please guide further . > Blessings > Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: > Dear Ramesh, Sri Rayadu and others, > > Not many people attempted the quiz. Bala sent me his apologies > personally for not participating in the quiz this time. > > Sri Rayadu was right in fixing the antra but I dont hink the > reasoning and laws were applied very correctly. > > The native got married in 1989 June, Mercury antra, First Sector. > > If anyone wants to try now, why marriage did not take place earlier, > is welcome. I guess, its ok to do errors/mistakes. We are all > learning and that's how we learn. We are all a group where we are > sharing and trying to help each other. I would give my explanantion > later how I got to the mercury antra. We can discuss on that later > if my logic was right. > > --Manoshi > > , " Pemmaraju V.R. > Rayudu " <pvrrayudu@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh/Ash/Bala/Manoshi, > > > > Being a beginner of KAS, I am not sure of marriage analysis > particularly with respect to fixing up the delay. > > > > I do not know how accurate is the time of birth. If it is less > by about 6 minutes, the rasi lagna and navamsa lagna change and the > analysis may differ with more delay due to Saturn. I personally feel > that such charts can be attempted after knowing many other life > events. > > > > Anyway with the given time of birth, Ramesh, I tend to agree > with you. But, since I have to learn, I want to try as follows with > my limited knowledge, which may be totally wrong. I request the > experts to please correct and guide. > > > > Taking 7th as B, in Rasi Saturn aspects A and with LoC; Jupiter > aspects A and himself LoC. In Navamsa, Saturn aspects B and himself > Lob, Jupiter aspects LoA.Jupiter is with Saturn in rasi and aspects > Saturn in navamsa.There is one zero in SAV.1st and 9th lords are in > 5:9. Under these circumstances I would like to take delay of 23 > years+ 10% extra due to one zero in SAV i.e. 23+2.3= 23 years+2 > years 3 months 12 days= 25 years 3 months 12 days(I may be wrong > here.) If so, the delay is upto 18 Nov 1985 ( 6 Aug 1960 + > 25yr3mon12days). > > > > At that time the Rahu MD and Jupiter AD is from 8 Nov 83 to 2 > Apr 86. Then Saturn AD upto 6 Feb 89 and Mercury AD from 6 feb89 to > 27 aug91. > > > > > > Mars 7th lord (5 points) aspects 7th, Venus is with Rahu, Venus > 6th lord. In navamsa Saturn aspects Venus, 7th lord Moon (6 points > in D-9) aspects 7th, Venus has zero in D-9 SAV.The ADs Rahu is SD to > Venus, Jupiter is SD to Venus,Mars ( in navamsa) & Saturn (in rasi) & > Saturn is SD to Jupiter( in rasi) and SD to Venus ( in navamsa). So > the > > ADs Rahu, Jupiter and Saturn are not taken. > > > > I prefer to consider Mercury AD having highest points in 7th WS. > I prefer the 3rd sector 20 Oct 90 to 27 Aug 91 due to the spoilt > situation of Venus (also keeping in view the time of birth can be > about 6 minutes earlier with likely more delay). > > > > Sun transit can be in Mercury sign and Mars star having highest > points in 7th WS between 11 to 16 October. > > > > So the marriage may be between 11 to 16 October 1990 when he > completed 30 years of age. > > > > During that time, SAV is 194 and Jupiter + Saturn=5 giving an > unfavorable environment. This may result in future bad marital > relationship as lagna, Moon, Sun lords & their 7th lords are mostly > in 2:12. > > > > Please bear with me if I have wasted your precious time by my > ignorant analysis. > > > > Blessings > > > > Pemmaraju > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: Dear Ash, Manoshi, > Bala and list members, > > I am trying to find out the date of marriage from this chart. I > got Asc as 1 Ta 36. The distance between Sun and Ve is < 43 deg > which is normal. Jup is in the sign of Sag not in Libra.Lagna lord > and its 7th lord is in 4/10 combination. Sun sign lord and its 7th > lord is in 2/12 combination.Moon sign lord and its 7th lord is also > in 2/12 combination. In navamsa also these are either in 2/12 or > 4/10 position. Sat does not aspect any luminary but it is with Jup > in Rasi and aspected by Jup in Navamsa. Sat aspects Ve in navamsa. > Sat aspects house A in rasi. There is no delay due to Sat. But due > to accumulation of points it is showing delay. There is one zero in > the BAV by Moon. > > When I checked up the relationship between lagna lord and 9th > lord it is in 5/9 position to each other .Therefore delay is > mitigated. The native may marry at the age of 21+. This time he was > running with Rahu MD through 24 Feb 1981 to 25 Feb 1999.Rahu antara > was from 24 Feb 1981 to 08 Nov 1983. > > Rahu is in nak. of Ve and is in house D with Ve. Therefore Rahu > is SD to Ve and eager to give result. Venus gets 12 points in 7th > house. Next stronger two significators are Mars and Mer. In PDF it > is showing between 03 Dec and 15 Dec.During these period Sun was > transiting in the sign of Mars and in the nak ruled by Mer. The Sat > Jup combination also was 10 points. > > Therefore it is assumed that the native might have married > sometime between 03 Dec 1982 to 14 Dec 1982 second sector of Rahu > antara. > > Therefore I request gurujis to find out my mistakes in > approaching the date of marriage, when I am wrong. Thanks and > regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa@> wrote: > > Dear Sri Rayadu, Dadhi, Bala, Pradeep, Ramesh and all others, > > > > Last time, Bala could solve the quiz with great success. This time > I > > am posting another chart details. Let's practice. Write your > replies > > in details. > > > > I got this chart today and could time antra for marriage > perfectly. > > PDF goes perfect too. And I think the reason I thought for sector > is > > right too. We can confirm that later from Krushna ji and Ash. Try > it > > out. > > > > I will post the results on 18th of March. > > > > > > 6th Aug 1960 > > Birth Time: 00:05 > > Rajnandgaon, India > > 21N06, 81E02 > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 A lac of thanks Manoshi. I am fully satisfied with your explanatios. Actually I overlooked Ve as 6th lord.When Rayudu sent the mail I could understand my mistake but I thought let it go once it is sent. After Rahu antara only Me antara was the most suitable antara. I got the undermentioned longitudes of planets which differs from that of yours.. Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa As 1 Ta 36 Krittika Su Cp Su 20 Cn 54 Aslesha Me Cp Mo 2 Cp 5 U.Asadha Su Cp Ma 9 Ta 58 Krittika Su Pi Me 1 Cn 45 Punarvasu Ju Cn JuR 1 Sg 43 Moola Ke Ar Ve 3 Le 3 Makha Ke Ar SaR 20 Sg 42 P.Asadha Ve Li Ra 24 Le 47 P.Phalguni Ve Sc Ke 24 Aq 47 P.Bhadrapada Ju Ta However thanks once again. Ramesh Mishra Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: Dear Sri Rayadu, Ramesh, and All, Sri Rayadu, you picked up Mercury antra, which shows you could see the strength of Mercury antra. So in a way you are right, but why not other antras? You gave to the delay, but here Ramesh was right. Ramesh you are right in saying that the delay is cancelled due to 1st and 9th lords being in 5:9 positions. Then why marriage did not take place just after 21 years? Here is how I did it. If anyone feels the reasoning is not right, we can discuss on that and get guidance from Krushna ji. Planet Degrees As 0 Ta 13 Su 20 Cn 54 Mo 2 Cp 2 Ma 9 Ta 57 Me 1 Cn 45 JuR 1 Sg 43 Ve 3 Le 3 SaR 20 Sg 42 Ra 24 Le 47 Ke 24 Aq 47 21 years is the legal age for marriage. *Native enters Rahu antra in 1981. EXPLANATION: When we see the quality of marriage, the venus-sun distance, Jupiter's position, Venus nakshatra etc seems to be ok, so considering marriage may not be bad or below average for happiness, we may say that marriage will take place in high points and not in 6th lords period. Now Rahu is SD to venus(6th lord), so I ignored Rahu. *Next native enters Jupiter antra. Why not this antra? EXPLANATION: Though Jupiter is powerful in WS but Jupiter aspects 2nd house (house A). Any planet (exception LoE/LoD) in general, aspecting house A, B, C cannot give the event. *Next is Saturn. Same reason, it aspects house A. * then comes Mercury. EXPLANATION: Mercury is strong in WS, it's SD to Sun(LoD). So marriage will take place. Marriage would take place in 1st sector, as there is no delay. for pdf, I dont how much I am right, I am not very good at fixing pdf. I would take when sun passes over nakshatra of Sun and Mars. Which is 11th May to 24th May. Marriage took place on 7th June. BALA, DADHI are good at fixing pdf. What do you say? thanks Manoshi , " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Thank you Manoshi. > Please guide further . > Blessings > Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: > Dear Ramesh, Sri Rayadu and others, > > Not many people attempted the quiz. Bala sent me his apologies > personally for not participating in the quiz this time. > > Sri Rayadu was right in fixing the antra but I dont hink the > reasoning and laws were applied very correctly. > > The native got married in 1989 June, Mercury antra, First Sector. > > If anyone wants to try now, why marriage did not take place earlier, > is welcome. I guess, its ok to do errors/mistakes. We are all > learning and that's how we learn. We are all a group where we are > sharing and trying to help each other. I would give my explanantion > later how I got to the mercury antra. We can discuss on that later > if my logic was right. > > --Manoshi > > , " Pemmaraju V.R. > Rayudu " <pvrrayudu@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh/Ash/Bala/Manoshi, > > > > Being a beginner of KAS, I am not sure of marriage analysis > particularly with respect to fixing up the delay. > > > > I do not know how accurate is the time of birth. If it is less > by about 6 minutes, the rasi lagna and navamsa lagna change and the > analysis may differ with more delay due to Saturn. I personally feel > that such charts can be attempted after knowing many other life > events. > > > > Anyway with the given time of birth, Ramesh, I tend to agree > with you. But, since I have to learn, I want to try as follows with > my limited knowledge, which may be totally wrong. I request the > experts to please correct and guide. > > > > Taking 7th as B, in Rasi Saturn aspects A and with LoC; Jupiter > aspects A and himself LoC. In Navamsa, Saturn aspects B and himself > Lob, Jupiter aspects LoA.Jupiter is with Saturn in rasi and aspects > Saturn in navamsa.There is one zero in SAV.1st and 9th lords are in > 5:9. Under these circumstances I would like to take delay of 23 > years+ 10% extra due to one zero in SAV i.e. 23+2.3= 23 years+2 > years 3 months 12 days= 25 years 3 months 12 days(I may be wrong > here.) If so, the delay is upto 18 Nov 1985 ( 6 Aug 1960 + > 25yr3mon12days). > > > > At that time the Rahu MD and Jupiter AD is from 8 Nov 83 to 2 > Apr 86. Then Saturn AD upto 6 Feb 89 and Mercury AD from 6 feb89 to > 27 aug91. > > > > > > Mars 7th lord (5 points) aspects 7th, Venus is with Rahu, Venus > 6th lord. In navamsa Saturn aspects Venus, 7th lord Moon (6 points > in D-9) aspects 7th, Venus has zero in D-9 SAV.The ADs Rahu is SD to > Venus, Jupiter is SD to Venus,Mars ( in navamsa) & Saturn (in rasi) & > Saturn is SD to Jupiter( in rasi) and SD to Venus ( in navamsa). So > the > > ADs Rahu, Jupiter and Saturn are not taken. > > > > I prefer to consider Mercury AD having highest points in 7th WS. > I prefer the 3rd sector 20 Oct 90 to 27 Aug 91 due to the spoilt > situation of Venus (also keeping in view the time of birth can be > about 6 minutes earlier with likely more delay). > > > > Sun transit can be in Mercury sign and Mars star having highest > points in 7th WS between 11 to 16 October. > > > > So the marriage may be between 11 to 16 October 1990 when he > completed 30 years of age. > > > > During that time, SAV is 194 and Jupiter + Saturn=5 giving an > unfavorable environment. This may result in future bad marital > relationship as lagna, Moon, Sun lords & their 7th lords are mostly > in 2:12. > > > > Please bear with me if I have wasted your precious time by my > ignorant analysis. > > > > Blessings > > > > Pemmaraju > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: Dear Ash, Manoshi, > Bala and list members, > > I am trying to find out the date of marriage from this chart. I > got Asc as 1 Ta 36. The distance between Sun and Ve is < 43 deg > which is normal. Jup is in the sign of Sag not in Libra.Lagna lord > and its 7th lord is in 4/10 combination. Sun sign lord and its 7th > lord is in 2/12 combination.Moon sign lord and its 7th lord is also > in 2/12 combination. In navamsa also these are either in 2/12 or > 4/10 position. Sat does not aspect any luminary but it is with Jup > in Rasi and aspected by Jup in Navamsa. Sat aspects Ve in navamsa. > Sat aspects house A in rasi. There is no delay due to Sat. But due > to accumulation of points it is showing delay. There is one zero in > the BAV by Moon. > > When I checked up the relationship between lagna lord and 9th > lord it is in 5/9 position to each other .Therefore delay is > mitigated. The native may marry at the age of 21+. This time he was > running with Rahu MD through 24 Feb 1981 to 25 Feb 1999.Rahu antara > was from 24 Feb 1981 to 08 Nov 1983. > > Rahu is in nak. of Ve and is in house D with Ve. Therefore Rahu > is SD to Ve and eager to give result. Venus gets 12 points in 7th > house. Next stronger two significators are Mars and Mer. In PDF it > is showing between 03 Dec and 15 Dec.During these period Sun was > transiting in the sign of Mars and in the nak ruled by Mer. The Sat > Jup combination also was 10 points. > > Therefore it is assumed that the native might have married > sometime between 03 Dec 1982 to 14 Dec 1982 second sector of Rahu > antara. > > Therefore I request gurujis to find out my mistakes in > approaching the date of marriage, when I am wrong. Thanks and > regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa@> wrote: > > Dear Sri Rayadu, Dadhi, Bala, Pradeep, Ramesh and all others, > > > > Last time, Bala could solve the quiz with great success. This time > I > > am posting another chart details. Let's practice. Write your > replies > > in details. > > > > I got this chart today and could time antra for marriage > perfectly. > > PDF goes perfect too. And I think the reason I thought for sector > is > > right too. We can confirm that later from Krushna ji and Ash. Try > it > > out. > > > > I will post the results on 18th of March. > > > > > > 6th Aug 1960 > > Birth Time: 00:05 > > Rajnandgaon, India > > 21N06, 81E02 > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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