Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Dear Ramesh, Bala, Geeta and others, When I had attempted this chart, I had got the right antra, the right sector too. The marriage took place in June 1985. So according to me it was Venus antra, last sector. But later as I discussed with Ash, he was in favour of Rahu antra and had his reasons to time it in Rahu antra. According to him, Venus is so spoilt that it cannot give marriage. Well, in June Sun antra starts too and Sun antra is good to give marriage too, but Ash says, Jupiter delay won't get over so soon. so the chart may be wrong or is having some problem. I would like Ash to explain this more, instead of giving my own explanation as it's not going to help right now. Over to Ash... Manoshi , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Manoshi, Ash, Rayudu, Bala and List members, > This time also I am trying the puzzle. I think I shall be able to hit the target in bull's eye. > According to KAS rules Sat and Jup is slow moving planets so they are the delay causing planets for any event. > Marriage- The Asc I got is 18 Ge 44. Lagnalord and 9th lord is in 4/10 combinations .Ve and Sat is also in 4:10 combinations.Sat is in 10th place from Ve.Thus Ve is opposing the karakatwa of Sat. Ve is in Krittika therefore it is spoiled.Sun- Ven distance is satisfactory.Me/Ju is in 3/11 either from lagna or from Moon sign. From Sun sign Ma/Ve is in 4/10 relationship. Ve is controlling Mars. Total points accumulated from these consideration are 60 more than 50. > Sat is in 9th house and he aspects house C and LoC in rasi but in navamsa he aspects Mo LoA of rasi and house A of navamsa. House B or LoB is escaped from the sight of Sat. Therefore no delay due to Sani. > Jup is LoB and he is in Shani navamsa. Jup aspects house A in rasi. In navamsa Jup is in house C with LoB Me, aspects Ma LoA and house B.All the houses A,B and C is influenced by Jup. Full delay is caused by Jup. > The delay will be over when Jup after two rounds enter its Pi over the natal 7th lord.This happens sometime in Feb 1987 and native will be in 24th year. > Native will be passing through MD/AD of Ra/Ra. > Ra is in lagna and aspects house A so its SD will give the event. Me and Ju is SD to Rahu.Ju aspects house A and he is weak also in 7th house. Me is stronger for 7th house and is LoD also. Therefore Me antara fulfills all the conditions.Before this Sat antara comes. > Sat also aspects house C and its lord Mars, therfore this antara also negated. > Next comes Me antara who is no.2 strongest planet for the 7th house. Me antara runs through 30 Apr 1994 till 16 Nov 1996. Since there is no delay by Sat, first sector of Me will give the marriage. > This might have been performed between 28 May 1994 and 03 Jun 1994. > > 1. Venus is spoiled being in Krittika and receivng sight of Mars from 5th house(love ffairs),Ve is also in the sign of Sat in navamsa.. > 2. Mo is with nodes in rasi and navamsa and receiving the aspect of Sat. Therefore there is no control over her mind to take the right decision. > 3. In Navamsa, the Mars 11th lord of rasi and 2nd lord of navamsa is in 5th house of emotions and affairs.This Mars aspects Sani (11th & 12th lord ), 11th and 12th house, Jup 7th lord of rasi ,Me 7th lord of navamsa and Venus. All these combinations indicate love marriage. It seems that they might have come closer to their affairs in Mars/Venus and they might have married secretaly in Sun antara. > > I do not know exactly because I am facing difficulties to trace the lapses of delay period. However I tried my level best to calculate the period and approached to Rahu/Mer which is showing very late also just in 31st year. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Here is another quiz. (oh no!!! not again!!!) Time marriage. I can > assure you, everyone is going to get right result if you follow KAS > rules. > > Just a little hint: Be careful with the 'delay getting over' thing. > I could time it till sector. I don't have the EXACT date for > marriage but have the approximate month of marriage. > > If you wish you can time when the couple would have met or became > serious about their relationship.You can also time the first child. > Everything will fall in place. > > Do it guys and enjoy. If you do not get the result (rare chances),no > worries...I believe astrology is such a science, even renowned > astrologers go wrong in their predictions as they might miss a > little thing may be. > > Bala, participate this time. Ramesh, you have picked up so well, > give it a try, Rayadu Sir, Dadhi, Manu, Pradeep and all others. I > will post the result on 24th March. > > Birth Details (Female) > > 1963, June 10 > Place:Howrah > 22N35 > 88E20 > Time: 6:34 AM > > > --Manoshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Dear All, I beleive Bala, Gita and Ramesh all have picked up Rahu antra and delay of Guru calculation to get over after 23rd year. I had done the same thing and confirmed it with Krushaji later on and he also told me the same thing. Bala and Gita and Ramesh have given a very systematic approach and I my analysis alway was in the same line. Here only thing was that Bala took delay of Shani and I pointed out that its not so. Other than that all of them have given the same thing. So I have nothing more to add here. I had picked up Rahu antra and I had selected Rahu antra as its SD to Me (LoD) and Ju = 8 bindus and having least points. Here 6th lord is in 4th from Venus and Venus is in krittika and its not checked by Guru. So here I went for Rahu antra. In any case, this chart has made one thing clear that all of them who have attempted are on the right track and very systematic. Thanks Manoshi for the chart, it sure did get a lot of juice flowing. Keep them chart's coming..... Cheers !!! Ash Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: Dear Ramesh, Bala, Geeta and others, When I had attempted this chart, I had got the right antra, the right sector too. The marriage took place in June 1985. So according to me it was Venus antra, last sector. But later as I discussed with Ash, he was in favour of Rahu antra and had his reasons to time it in Rahu antra. According to him, Venus is so spoilt that it cannot give marriage. Well, in June Sun antra starts too and Sun antra is good to give marriage too, but Ash says, Jupiter delay won't get over so soon. so the chart may be wrong or is having some problem. I would like Ash to explain this more, instead of giving my own explanation as it's not going to help right now. Over to Ash... Manoshi , ramesh mishra wrote: > > Dear Manoshi, Ash, Rayudu, Bala and List members, > This time also I am trying the puzzle. I think I shall be able to hit the target in bull's eye. > According to KAS rules Sat and Jup is slow moving planets so they are the delay causing planets for any event. > Marriage- The Asc I got is 18 Ge 44. Lagnalord and 9th lord is in 4/10 combinations .Ve and Sat is also in 4:10 combinations.Sat is in 10th place from Ve.Thus Ve is opposing the karakatwa of Sat. Ve is in Krittika therefore it is spoiled.Sun- Ven distance is satisfactory.Me/Ju is in 3/11 either from lagna or from Moon sign. From Sun sign Ma/Ve is in 4/10 relationship. Ve is controlling Mars. Total points accumulated from these consideration are 60 more than 50. > Sat is in 9th house and he aspects house C and LoC in rasi but in navamsa he aspects Mo LoA of rasi and house A of navamsa. House B or LoB is escaped from the sight of Sat. Therefore no delay due to Sani. > Jup is LoB and he is in Shani navamsa. Jup aspects house A in rasi. In navamsa Jup is in house C with LoB Me, aspects Ma LoA and house B.All the houses A,B and C is influenced by Jup. Full delay is caused by Jup. > The delay will be over when Jup after two rounds enter its Pi over the natal 7th lord.This happens sometime in Feb 1987 and native will be in 24th year. > Native will be passing through MD/AD of Ra/Ra. > Ra is in lagna and aspects house A so its SD will give the event. Me and Ju is SD to Rahu.Ju aspects house A and he is weak also in 7th house. Me is stronger for 7th house and is LoD also. Therefore Me antara fulfills all the conditions.Before this Sat antara comes. > Sat also aspects house C and its lord Mars, therfore this antara also negated. > Next comes Me antara who is no.2 strongest planet for the 7th house. Me antara runs through 30 Apr 1994 till 16 Nov 1996. Since there is no delay by Sat, first sector of Me will give the marriage. > This might have been performed between 28 May 1994 and 03 Jun 1994. > > 1. Venus is spoiled being in Krittika and receivng sight of Mars from 5th house(love ffairs),Ve is also in the sign of Sat in navamsa.. > 2. Mo is with nodes in rasi and navamsa and receiving the aspect of Sat. Therefore there is no control over her mind to take the right decision. > 3. In Navamsa, the Mars 11th lord of rasi and 2nd lord of navamsa is in 5th house of emotions and affairs.This Mars aspects Sani (11th & 12th lord ), 11th and 12th house, Jup 7th lord of rasi ,Me 7th lord of navamsa and Venus. All these combinations indicate love marriage. It seems that they might have come closer to their affairs in Mars/Venus and they might have married secretaly in Sun antara. > > I do not know exactly because I am facing difficulties to trace the lapses of delay period. However I tried my level best to calculate the period and approached to Rahu/Mer which is showing very late also just in 31st year. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Here is another quiz. (oh no!!! not again!!!) Time marriage. I can > assure you, everyone is going to get right result if you follow KAS > rules. > > Just a little hint: Be careful with the 'delay getting over' thing. > I could time it till sector. I don't have the EXACT date for > marriage but have the approximate month of marriage. > > If you wish you can time when the couple would have met or became > serious about their relationship.You can also time the first child. > Everything will fall in place. > > Do it guys and enjoy. If you do not get the result (rare chances),no > worries...I believe astrology is such a science, even renowned > astrologers go wrong in their predictions as they might miss a > little thing may be. > > Bala, participate this time. Ramesh, you have picked up so well, > give it a try, Rayadu Sir, Dadhi, Manu, Pradeep and all others. I > will post the result on 24th March. > > Birth Details (Female) > > 1963, June 10 > Place:Howrah > 22N35 > 88E20 > Time: 6:34 AM > > > --Manoshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Dear Ash, Manisha, Gita, Bala, Ramesh Since I am not well, I have not posted my analysis, but I have been following the analysis of all who had done excellent job. By taking Jupiter delay as per rules I also thought of MD Rahu- AD Rahu since Rahu is in D, Mercury LoD, Jupiter 8 points though Jupiter has got less points in WS. I have not gone upto AD Mercury since it may not be so late in those days generally.. If the time of birth is taken 6:40 AM ( 6 minutes more than the given ToB), the Navamsa lagna changes to Aries and I think there is no delay due to Jupiter. Then starting from legal age of 18 years age from 10 June 1981, in the MD Mars, the ADs Jupiter, Saturn Ketu ( more as Jupiter) are not considered due to low points in WS. The AD Mercury though having more points is not taken being in 12th in rasi and 6th lord in navamsa.. The AD Venus though having more points is not taken being in 12th, 12th lord, 6th lord from 7th. The next AD Sun with 13 points is taken 2 June 1985 to 8 Oct 1985 and the first sector from 2 Jun 1985 to 15 July 1985 is selected. The PDF for Sun transit in this bracket in Venus-Moon from 27 May to 7 June is chosen since others have less points. If I am wrong, please correct. Blessings Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu Ash <ashsam73 wrote: Dear All, I beleive Bala, Gita and Ramesh all have picked up Rahu antra and delay of Guru calculation to get over after 23rd year. I had done the same thing and confirmed it with Krushaji later on and he also told me the same thing. Bala and Gita and Ramesh have given a very systematic approach and I my analysis alway was in the same line. Here only thing was that Bala took delay of Shani and I pointed out that its not so. Other than that all of them have given the same thing. So I have nothing more to add here. I had picked up Rahu antra and I had selected Rahu antra as its SD to Me (LoD) and Ju = 8 bindus and having least points. Here 6th lord is in 4th from Venus and Venus is in krittika and its not checked by Guru. So here I went for Rahu antra. In any case, this chart has made one thing clear that all of them who have attempted are on the right track and very systematic. Thanks Manoshi for the chart, it sure did get a lot of juice flowing. Keep them chart's coming..... Cheers !!! Ash Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: Dear Ramesh, Bala, Geeta and others, When I had attempted this chart, I had got the right antra, the right sector too. The marriage took place in June 1985. So according to me it was Venus antra, last sector. But later as I discussed with Ash, he was in favour of Rahu antra and had his reasons to time it in Rahu antra. According to him, Venus is so spoilt that it cannot give marriage. Well, in June Sun antra starts too and Sun antra is good to give marriage too, but Ash says, Jupiter delay won't get over so soon. so the chart may be wrong or is having some problem. I would like Ash to explain this more, instead of giving my own explanation as it's not going to help right now. Over to Ash... Manoshi , ramesh mishra wrote: > > Dear Manoshi, Ash, Rayudu, Bala and List members, > This time also I am trying the puzzle. I think I shall be able to hit the target in bull's eye. > According to KAS rules Sat and Jup is slow moving planets so they are the delay causing planets for any event. > Marriage- The Asc I got is 18 Ge 44. Lagnalord and 9th lord is in 4/10 combinations .Ve and Sat is also in 4:10 combinations.Sat is in 10th place from Ve.Thus Ve is opposing the karakatwa of Sat. Ve is in Krittika therefore it is spoiled.Sun- Ven distance is satisfactory.Me/Ju is in 3/11 either from lagna or from Moon sign. From Sun sign Ma/Ve is in 4/10 relationship. Ve is controlling Mars. Total points accumulated from these consideration are 60 more than 50. > Sat is in 9th house and he aspects house C and LoC in rasi but in navamsa he aspects Mo LoA of rasi and house A of navamsa. House B or LoB is escaped from the sight of Sat. Therefore no delay due to Sani. > Jup is LoB and he is in Shani navamsa. Jup aspects house A in rasi. In navamsa Jup is in house C with LoB Me, aspects Ma LoA and house B.All the houses A,B and C is influenced by Jup. Full delay is caused by Jup. > The delay will be over when Jup after two rounds enter its Pi over the natal 7th lord.This happens sometime in Feb 1987 and native will be in 24th year. > Native will be passing through MD/AD of Ra/Ra. > Ra is in lagna and aspects house A so its SD will give the event. Me and Ju is SD to Rahu.Ju aspects house A and he is weak also in 7th house. Me is stronger for 7th house and is LoD also. Therefore Me antara fulfills all the conditions.Before this Sat antara comes. > Sat also aspects house C and its lord Mars, therfore this antara also negated. > Next comes Me antara who is no.2 strongest planet for the 7th house. Me antara runs through 30 Apr 1994 till 16 Nov 1996. Since there is no delay by Sat, first sector of Me will give the marriage. > This might have been performed between 28 May 1994 and 03 Jun 1994. > > 1. Venus is spoiled being in Krittika and receivng sight of Mars from 5th house(love ffairs),Ve is also in the sign of Sat in navamsa.. > 2. Mo is with nodes in rasi and navamsa and receiving the aspect of Sat. Therefore there is no control over her mind to take the right decision. > 3. In Navamsa, the Mars 11th lord of rasi and 2nd lord of navamsa is in 5th house of emotions and affairs.This Mars aspects Sani (11th & 12th lord ), 11th and 12th house, Jup 7th lord of rasi ,Me 7th lord of navamsa and Venus. All these combinations indicate love marriage. It seems that they might have come closer to their affairs in Mars/Venus and they might have married secretaly in Sun antara. > > I do not know exactly because I am facing difficulties to trace the lapses of delay period. However I tried my level best to calculate the period and approached to Rahu/Mer which is showing very late also just in 31st year. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Manoshi Chatterjee wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Here is another quiz. (oh no!!! not again!!!) Time marriage. I can > assure you, everyone is going to get right result if you follow KAS > rules. > > Just a little hint: Be careful with the 'delay getting over' thing. > I could time it till sector. I don't have the EXACT date for > marriage but have the approximate month of marriage. > > If you wish you can time when the couple would have met or became > serious about their relationship.You can also time the first child. > Everything will fall in place. > > Do it guys and enjoy. If you do not get the result (rare chances),no > worries...I believe astrology is such a science, even renowned > astrologers go wrong in their predictions as they might miss a > little thing may be. > > Bala, participate this time. Ramesh, you have picked up so well, > give it a try, Rayadu Sir, Dadhi, Manu, Pradeep and all others. I > will post the result on 24th March. > > Birth Details (Female) > > 1963, June 10 > Place:Howrah > 22N35 > 88E20 > Time: 6:34 AM > > > --Manoshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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