Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Dear Ash, Thanks for sharing your understanding regarding 12th house. There is some sound logic in your presentation, but unfortunately I could not find any words from lessons or Krushnaji to confirm this. What I found is: - 12th lord enhances the results of the house it is situated. If it is with more points, it gives much better result. Even if it is with less points, it gives good result. Suppose if the 12th lord is situated in 4th house, with less points, Person do not have his own house, but he gets all the happiness from family. He may live in a rented house, or there may be condition, that he may not be able to sell the same, any time at his will. If with more points he can have his own house. Similarly if any planet is situated in 12th house, it will give much better result in it's sub. Similar is the case, with 8th lord. It may give better result for the house it is situated, with less efforts. These things are to be experienced form many charts. I agree, in the text, these houses are not considered as good houses, and there lord is also treated in similar way. Any planet in 8th with more points, can not give marriage in it's sub. But if any planet is situated in 12th it gives marriage or some times extra marital relation, or friendship with opposite sex. I would like to request you, to check these results, every chart is having 8th and 12th lord, and must be situated in some house. If in any case if the results are spoiled may not be due to these planets, there must be some other reason. If any planet gets more points in 8th house, may experience health problem, or death, or similar situation, in the sub of that planet. Here it may not be the 8th lord, it may be any planet. 1971 krushanain Thu Jun 28, 2001 10:02pm Re: Revision dEAR LIST MEMBERS, Revision Any planet, which is strongest in the worksheet, do not give the result for the house concerned, if 1) have any relationship with the 12th lord. 2) If gets points due to the sight of 12th lord from any house. 3) if 12th lord from any house is situated in the 4th place from such planet. 4) if the 12th lord is situated with such planet. 5) if the strongest planet is in the navamansha of 12th lord from the house concerned. 6) If such planet is situated in the sign or constellation ruled by 12th lord from the house concerned. 7) lords of house D or E are more eager to give the result. ( if there is no delay indicated) -------------------------------- My impression is just that 12th house or lord is not THE MOST benefic, but certainly very benefic. It would be also nice (if you have time, of course) to present some charts to confirm your words. OTOH, I have found (in archives) that Venus for example in 12th (with more points) would mean that the person indulges in prohibited acts. So, you are right about pleasures. Saturn for example is not good in 12th regarding bed confort, but is good regarding reputation. ----------------------- Regarding Moksha, I think that Jagdish refers here (correct me Jagdish if I am wrong), to spirituality and spiritual life in general. And for that, we know that this area is connected with 2nd and 5th houses, and 9th and 12th lords are karakas (it is somewhere in archives....as far as I remember). And also, Krushnaji states somewhere that spiritual plane is connected to 3,6,9 and 12th houses. But, how to apply this - no example is shown and I can not comment further. > Another thing, as per KAS not to mix 12th house of Rasi chart with > 12th house of D charts. > > Planets in 6th, 8th and 12th in D charts are not good. The same is > not true for Rasi. > > Say in Dashaansa 5th lord is in 12th then such a person might misuse > authority in work. Again this is restricted to the focus of area of > D chart that d chart denotes. I did not think that one should mix 12th house of Rashi with 12th house of D charts. Yes, you are right that we should see the focus of area of D-chart... So, regarding Moksha, that might be difficult subject matter, but as per standard jyotisha, Navamsha is much connected with punya and should have some saying regarding spirituality or dharma. In many charts of persons seriously interested in spiritual life, I've seen 12th lord is mostly posited in Navamsha in dusthana house or placed with similar planets. all the best, Dadhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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