Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 My two cents: Not only he will continue has life-span but also he will get more authority now. And after monday radical changes can be seen. Am i correct ? Best Wishes Jagdish Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: Respected Sir Ash and other members Would you like to throw some light on Mr P. Mahajan's chart ? October 30, 1948 Time: 9:21:00 pm Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23' 00 " Hyderabad, India I got the details from other group. Best Wishes Jagdish Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Dear Jagdish, Namaskar, I had already started this issue on Apr/22 but did not get any response from members. Please see archives.Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: Respected Sir Ash and other members Would you like to throw some light on Mr P. Mahajan's chart ? October 30, 1948 Time: 9:21:00 pm Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23' 00 " Hyderabad, India I got the details from other group. Best Wishes Jagdish Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Dear Jagdish, I have seen u ask about charts of famous people, I think even in earlier posts you had asked similar thing. There is no harm in that, but when people are famous and those in India who know the power of Jyotish shastra, sometimes give misleading information. Now, please do not get me wrong, maybe this data given by you is cent per cent authentic then no harm in going deeper. If it is not then ? How do u decide and confirm that this data is authentic or not? There are so many needy people that would love to receive some help regarding their charts who might give u authentic information and share data which can also facilitate your learning process. If you want to take such famous charts, then get about 20 solid events and then study and match each and every event with the time and see if all matches. Then u can venture into future prediction if u find that all events are matching or coming close. For your information, I have seen many astrologers debate if 1949 is the birth year or is it 1948. Is the time 21:00 or 21:21. Is the place of birth Hyderabad or Mehabubnagar. Each of the three DoB, ToB and PoB are in question. If you have time and if u have a good number of solid and verifiable events then feel free to go ahead, use KAS, verify events and predict future events. Such an effort and exercise will help u in the long run. Also for other famous people too like politicians, actors, actresses, industrialists, sports personalities etc. These charts can reveal a lot provided one has the right birth details. Otherwise, our Jyotish Shastra merely becomes a guessing game. Cheers !!! Ash , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Respected Sir Ash and other members > > Would you like to throw some light on Mr P. Mahajan's chart ? > > October 30, 1948 > Time: 9:21:00 pm > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23' 00 " > Hyderabad, India > > > I got the details from other group. > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Dear Ramesh and Jagdish, From what I read from www.timesofindia.com " Senior BJP leader Pramod Mahajan died at Mumbai's Hinduja Hospital on Wednesday afternoon. He was 56. Mahajan had been shot by his younger brother on April 22. " The age given by Times Of India is 56 years. So technically his year of birth should be 1950. So now we have 3 different years of birth floating around viz-a-viz 1948, 1949 and 1950. Then on the other hand there are birth data of twins where a few mins might change a lot of things...... Interesting eh !! May His Soul rest in Peace. Ash , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Jagdish, > I have seen u ask about charts of famous people, I think even in > earlier posts you had asked similar thing. > There is no harm in that, but when people are famous and those in > India who know the power of Jyotish shastra, sometimes give > misleading information. > Now, please do not get me wrong, maybe this data given by you is > cent per cent authentic then no harm in going deeper. If it is not > then ? How do u decide and confirm that this data is authentic or > not? > There are so many needy people that would love to receive some help > regarding their charts who might give u authentic information and > share data which can also facilitate your learning process. > > If you want to take such famous charts, then get about 20 solid > events and then study and match each and every event with the time > and see if all matches. Then u can venture into future prediction > if u find that all events are matching or coming close. > > For your information, I have seen many astrologers debate if 1949 is > the birth year or is it 1948. Is the time 21:00 or 21:21. Is the > place of birth Hyderabad or Mehabubnagar. Each of the three DoB, > ToB and PoB are in question. > > If you have time and if u have a good number of solid and verifiable > events then feel free to go ahead, use KAS, verify events and > predict future events. Such an effort and exercise will help u in > the long run. > > Also for other famous people too like politicians, actors, > actresses, industrialists, sports personalities etc. These charts > can reveal a lot provided one has the right birth details. > > Otherwise, our Jyotish Shastra merely becomes a guessing game. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Prathamesn Chawan > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > Respected Sir Ash and other members > > > > Would you like to throw some light on Mr P. Mahajan's chart ? > > > > October 30, 1948 > > Time: 9:21:00 pm > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23' 00 " > > Hyderabad, India > > > > > > I got the details from other group. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Jagdish > > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Respected Sir Ash Just few days ago i was listening lecture of Pt. Sanjay Rath on Pramod Mahajan. He said firmly that situation is critical for him but he will survive. Mr. Pramod Mahajan's horoscope was discussed on all the astrology group. Some asked Pt. Sanjay Rath Ji that how are you sure about his birth details and he said that his family members told him. Now all the astrologers predicted that he will survive but after struggle. Noone said that he will die. But he passes away. I have seen it many many times that when it comes to predicting the future and in that predicting critical situation then many many astrologers fail (including Pt. K. N. Rao). While any astrologer can verify past with the help of astrology. Just two days ago, Pt. Sanjay Rath gave lecture that why he survived. He showed many reasons for his survival. What happened to his reasons ? Jagdish ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Ramesh and Jagdish, From what I read from www.timesofindia.com " Senior BJP leader Pramod Mahajan died at Mumbai's Hinduja Hospital on Wednesday afternoon. He was 56. Mahajan had been shot by his younger brother on April 22. " The age given by Times Of India is 56 years. So technically his year of birth should be 1950. So now we have 3 different years of birth floating around viz-a-viz 1948, 1949 and 1950. Then on the other hand there are birth data of twins where a few mins might change a lot of things...... Interesting eh !! May His Soul rest in Peace. Ash , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Jagdish, > I have seen u ask about charts of famous people, I think even in > earlier posts you had asked similar thing. > There is no harm in that, but when people are famous and those in > India who know the power of Jyotish shastra, sometimes give > misleading information. > Now, please do not get me wrong, maybe this data given by you is > cent per cent authentic then no harm in going deeper. If it is not > then ? How do u decide and confirm that this data is authentic or > not? > There are so many needy people that would love to receive some help > regarding their charts who might give u authentic information and > share data which can also facilitate your learning process. > > If you want to take such famous charts, then get about 20 solid > events and then study and match each and every event with the time > and see if all matches. Then u can venture into future prediction > if u find that all events are matching or coming close. > > For your information, I have seen many astrologers debate if 1949 is > the birth year or is it 1948. Is the time 21:00 or 21:21. Is the > place of birth Hyderabad or Mehabubnagar. Each of the three DoB, > ToB and PoB are in question. > > If you have time and if u have a good number of solid and verifiable > events then feel free to go ahead, use KAS, verify events and > predict future events. Such an effort and exercise will help u in > the long run. > > Also for other famous people too like politicians, actors, > actresses, industrialists, sports personalities etc. These charts > can reveal a lot provided one has the right birth details. > > Otherwise, our Jyotish Shastra merely becomes a guessing game. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Prathamesn Chawan > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > Respected Sir Ash and other members > > > > Would you like to throw some light on Mr P. Mahajan's chart ? > > > > October 30, 1948 > > Time: 9:21:00 pm > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23' 00 " > > Hyderabad, India > > > > > > I got the details from other group. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Jagdish > > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Dear Jagdish, Please let us not get personal here and discuss such things that will put down other astrologers. Just read this code of conduct. http://krushna.sageasita.com/pdf/Astrologercode.pdf The point of my mail, was to highlight the fact that we need to be thorough in our job for approaching ANY chart, no matter it is of a famous personality or a poor person from shanty town. It dont matter. It Means first make sure the birth time is right. That is not an easy task and not something u can do in 5 minutes. It needs a lot of concentration and good grasp of whatever technique u use. We using KAS go by events as this system is for timing of event. It means that if the birth time is right then it means that mostly all events much match. In some events you might not get proper justification which is ok, but majority of events much be in line. I always say, and you can find in so many mails, is first u first be comfortable with the birth data given and match the events if in line. It is also written down in the introductory page when you log on to the list. Make sure the events are mathing. Now this is a labourious job and tedious. Yes, in doing so u can practice and get the technique right. Slowly slowly one gets confidence. There is no substitue for hard work and experience. This is no matter what system you use or what technique. We are just trying to follow that here. If birth data is wrong, everything goes wrong. I hope you get the point what I am driving at. Cheers !!! Ash , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Respected Sir Ash > > Just few days ago i was listening lecture of Pt. Sanjay Rath on Pramod Mahajan. He said firmly that situation is critical for him but he will survive. Mr. Pramod Mahajan's horoscope was discussed on all the astrology group. > > Some asked Pt. Sanjay Rath Ji that how are you sure about his birth details and he said that his family members told him. > > Now all the astrologers predicted that he will survive but after struggle. Noone said that he will die. > > But he passes away. > > I have seen it many many times that when it comes to predicting the future and in that predicting critical situation then many many astrologers fail (including Pt. K. N. Rao). While any astrologer can verify past with the help of astrology. > > Just two days ago, Pt. Sanjay Rath gave lecture that why he survived. He showed many reasons for his survival. What happened to his reasons ? > > Jagdish > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Ramesh and Jagdish, > From what I read from www.timesofindia.com > > " Senior BJP leader Pramod Mahajan died at Mumbai's Hinduja Hospital > on Wednesday afternoon. He was 56. Mahajan had been shot by his > younger brother on April 22. " > > The age given by Times Of India is 56 years. So technically his > year of birth should be 1950. > > So now we have 3 different years of birth floating around viz-a- viz > 1948, 1949 and 1950. > > Then on the other hand there are birth data of twins where a few > mins might change a lot of things...... > > Interesting eh !! > > May His Soul rest in Peace. > > Ash > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Jagdish, > > I have seen u ask about charts of famous people, I think even in > > earlier posts you had asked similar thing. > > There is no harm in that, but when people are famous and those in > > India who know the power of Jyotish shastra, sometimes give > > misleading information. > > Now, please do not get me wrong, maybe this data given by you is > > cent per cent authentic then no harm in going deeper. If it is > not > > then ? How do u decide and confirm that this data is authentic or > > not? > > There are so many needy people that would love to receive some > help > > regarding their charts who might give u authentic information and > > share data which can also facilitate your learning process. > > > > If you want to take such famous charts, then get about 20 solid > > events and then study and match each and every event with the time > > and see if all matches. Then u can venture into future prediction > > if u find that all events are matching or coming close. > > > > For your information, I have seen many astrologers debate if 1949 > is > > the birth year or is it 1948. Is the time 21:00 or 21:21. Is the > > place of birth Hyderabad or Mehabubnagar. Each of the three DoB, > > ToB and PoB are in question. > > > > If you have time and if u have a good number of solid and > verifiable > > events then feel free to go ahead, use KAS, verify events and > > predict future events. Such an effort and exercise will help u in > > the long run. > > > > Also for other famous people too like politicians, actors, > > actresses, industrialists, sports personalities etc. These charts > > can reveal a lot provided one has the right birth details. > > > > Otherwise, our Jyotish Shastra merely becomes a guessing game. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Prathamesn Chawan > > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sir Ash and other members > > > > > > Would you like to throw some light on Mr P. Mahajan's chart ? > > > > > > October 30, 1948 > > > Time: 9:21:00 pm > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > Place: 78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23' 00 " > > > Hyderabad, India > > > > > > > > > I got the details from other group. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Jagdish > > > > > > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > > Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Dear Sunit, Out here we are focussesd on learning KAS. Let us stick to the goal of this list which is to learn KAS. Cheers !!! Ash , Sunit Kholia <sunitkholia1 wrote: > > Hi, > > You are dead right. Astrology is actually something that discusses the past. It can never predict future. I have also been studying astrology but haven't came across a single person in my life who can predict the future correctly. > > I have talked to so many so called big name astrologers, but none of them have ever been able to give me any clue about what is going to happen in future. It is foolish to bang your head in the field of astrology. If astrology had been true then there would never have been a praise of Geeta or emphasis on Karma, everything would have been Bhagya. > > I have also read those messages regarding Late Mr. Pramod Mahajan. They all are trageting the arrow in the complete darkness and guess what if they hit, they say they have done wonders. > > Go by your mind, it is time now that you should come up of this and emphasis on the great Sidhanta of Geeta that is Karma Yoga. > > Kalyuga is all about Karma and Karmayogi. > > Thanx and warm regards, > > A friend of yours > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Hi, Sunit. Long before 17th September 2004 (my Moon #2 sector start), Ashji predicted some big job would come for me. On 14th September 2004, I got a call out of the blue from a former employer - offering a contract, with almost double-rate from what he had paid me before. On 17th September 2004 itself - the final rate/contract was agreed - and on 20th September 2004 I started the job. Ashji predicted this almost one year before Moon #2 actually started. I myself have predicted events long before the event takes place, and they have come about. Sometimes my predictions do fail though. But - I totally disagree with the remark that astrology can NEVER predict future. In fact, I have seen it work more often than not. Since you seem convinced though that this is not the case, I respect your right to hold that view and won't try to convince you otherwise as if you have not seen it to work, then you have not seen it to work - but does not mean it is totally invalid for everyone else too. Cheers - Sateesh. ======== - Sunit Kholia Wednesday, May 03, 2006 4:48 PM Re: Re: Mr. P. Mahajan Hi, You are dead right. Astrology is actually something that discusses the past. It can never predict future. I have also been studying astrology but haven't came across a single person in my life who can predict the future correctly. I have talked to so many so called big name astrologers, but none of them have ever been able to give me any clue about what is going to happen in future. It is foolish to bang your head in the field of astrology. If astrology had been true then there would never have been a praise of Geeta or emphasis on Karma, everything would have been Bhagya. I have also read those messages regarding Late Mr. Pramod Mahajan. They all are trageting the arrow in the complete darkness and guess what if they hit, they say they have done wonders. Go by your mind, it is time now that you should come up of this and emphasis on the great Sidhanta of Geeta that is Karma Yoga. Kalyuga is all about Karma and Karmayogi. Thanx and warm regards, A friend of yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Namaskaar Sri Sunit Past Karmas resultant is current destiny and present karmas resultant is future destiny. There are many types of karmas that one can choose to perform. Some increase the resultant destiny in one area and some do the opposite. The results are in the hands of the Lord. In such a dynamic scenario, Jyotish has laid its principles to know the nature of the person and time the possibility of events. If you see the list of qualities needed in an astrologer in our shastras, you'd be surprised that even the best do not fit into it. Besides all these factors, I have seen Sri Ash predict successfully the death of a distant cousin of mine in a puzzle that I had put. Furthermore, he predicted that Karunya would not be able to win the Indian Idol 2 contest and gave reasons for it. And these two are predictions since I have joined in about two weeks or so back in Astrologyandtimingevents group. If I come to other astrologers, I have seen brilliant predictions been made. What I do not understand is - when astrologers go wrong.. why does all hell break loose? My father is a National Awardee and a scientist. He failed many a times in inventing the things. I have failed many a times in neural network analysis of speech. No one calls our subjects as failures. It is surprising people want 100% results and I wonder in which scientific field do they get them: 1. Space agency Nasa has failed many a times with huge loss of life. My family friend's cousin Kavita Chawla was amongst them. 2. Thousands of patients lose their lives at the hands of doctors when wrong treatment is given or because of the fact that they have no clue. These are just two examples, but then airplanes crash, trains collide, cars burn out, airconditioners stop cooling, batteries explode, cylinders burst, and only the Lord knows what cannot go wrong. I, therefore, request everyone in all groups not to indulge in mud slinging on Astrology. Failure is a part of science and it propels one to research one's methods again and again and again. Astrology, just like all other subjects, have helped millions of people and will keep doing so if each one lets astrologers do their research. There is hope that my words are not taken in the wrong way. Kindly study Astrology and realize its importance. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 5/3/06, Sunit Kholia <sunitkholia1 wrote: > > Hi, > > You are dead right. Astrology is actually something that discusses the > past. It can never predict future. I have also been studying astrology but > haven't came across a single person in my life who can predict the future > correctly. > > I have talked to so many so called big name astrologers, but none of them > have ever been able to give me any clue about what is going to happen in > future. It is foolish to bang your head in the field of astrology. If > astrology had been true then there would never have been a praise of Geeta > or emphasis on Karma, everything would have been Bhagya. > > I have also read those messages regarding Late Mr. Pramod Mahajan. They > all are trageting the arrow in the complete darkness and guess what if they > hit, they say they have done wonders. > > Go by your mind, it is time now that you should come up of this and > emphasis on the great Sidhanta of Geeta that is Karma Yoga. > > Kalyuga is all about Karma and Karmayogi. > > Thanx and warm regards, > > A friend of yours > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Dear Bharat, Thank you for your kind words. Cheers !!! Ash , " Bharat Hindu Astrology " <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaskaar Sri Sunit > > Past Karmas resultant is current destiny and present karmas resultant is > future destiny. There are many types of karmas that one can choose to > perform. Some increase the resultant destiny in one area and some do the > opposite. The results are in the hands of the Lord. In such a dynamic > scenario, Jyotish has laid its principles to know the nature of the person > and time the possibility of events. If you see the list of qualities needed > in an astrologer in our shastras, you'd be surprised that even the best do > not fit into it. > > Besides all these factors, I have seen Sri Ash predict successfully the > death of a distant cousin of mine in a puzzle that I had put. Furthermore, > he predicted that Karunya would not be able to win the Indian Idol 2 contest > and gave reasons for it. And these two are predictions since I have joined > in about two weeks or so back in Astrologyandtimingevents group. > > If I come to other astrologers, I have seen brilliant predictions been made. > What I do not understand is - when astrologers go wrong.. why does all hell > break loose? My father is a National Awardee and a scientist. He failed many > a times in inventing the things. I have failed many a times in neural > network analysis of speech. No one calls our subjects as failures. It is > surprising people want 100% results and I wonder in which scientific field > do they get them: > > 1. Space agency Nasa has failed many a times with huge loss of life. My > family friend's cousin Kavita Chawla was amongst them. > 2. Thousands of patients lose their lives at the hands of doctors when wrong > treatment is given or because of the fact that they have no clue. > > These are just two examples, but then airplanes crash, trains collide, cars > burn out, airconditioners stop cooling, batteries explode, cylinders burst, > and only the Lord knows what cannot go wrong. > > I, therefore, request everyone in all groups not to indulge in mud slinging > on Astrology. Failure is a part of science and it propels one to research > one's methods again and again and again. Astrology, just like all other > subjects, have helped millions of people and will keep doing so if each one > lets astrologers do their research. > > There is hope that my words are not taken in the wrong way. Kindly study > Astrology and realize its importance. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > > On 5/3/06, Sunit Kholia <sunitkholia1 wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > You are dead right. Astrology is actually something that discusses the > > past. It can never predict future. I have also been studying astrology but > > haven't came across a single person in my life who can predict the future > > correctly. > > > > I have talked to so many so called big name astrologers, but none of them > > have ever been able to give me any clue about what is going to happen in > > future. It is foolish to bang your head in the field of astrology. If > > astrology had been true then there would never have been a praise of Geeta > > or emphasis on Karma, everything would have been Bhagya. > > > > I have also read those messages regarding Late Mr. Pramod Mahajan. They > > all are trageting the arrow in the complete darkness and guess what if they > > hit, they say they have done wonders. > > > > Go by your mind, it is time now that you should come up of this and > > emphasis on the great Sidhanta of Geeta that is Karma Yoga. > > > > Kalyuga is all about Karma and Karmayogi. > > > > Thanx and warm regards, > > > > A friend of yours > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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