Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Wow Harjeet, really impressd by your analysis. Ash has told me to do this chart as well, I will see what I find and post it. regards Manoshi , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Respected Ashji, > Need your help here. > Using KAS we get the AD for marriage to be of mercury (1st sector). > Here saturn aspects house B (7th for marriage).. i guess its delay is > not considered as it becomes lord of D for 7th house. since there is > no 5:9 relationship between lord of 1 and 9 ? > > For B (house 7) here no planet is very strong indicator and max points > are 13. Marriage happened in mercury antra which is giving only 2 > points for marriage... hence troubled marriage. mercury is samdhari to > venus lord of E but very weak significator of marriage and is also > with lord of 12th from B. if marriage date wouldnt have been given i > would have skipped mercury antra. > > About abroad taking 12th house as B. mercury again is samdhari to > venus which is lord of A. Mercury and venus have more than 5 points (6 > points here) so would give the effects of house 4th and 8th from its > position. here 8th from 5th would be 12th house. hence native went > abroad in mercury antra ? also being samdhari to venus who is a strong > significator for house B (12th house) getting 18 points. > > I am still very amused about mercury being samdhari to venus and > having only 2 points and not even lord of D or E able to give marriage > ? i think i am missing something important here. please guide at your > leisure. > > thanks/regards > harjeet > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 thanks very much manoshiji, to be honest i have already taken dates of marriage granted and tried to just check if marriage occuring on the date given. if dates wouldnt have been given i would have taken the saturn dealy and gone wrong on the first step itself. and taken venus as the antra for marriage. i strongly felt (without KAS logic) that native would go abroad and would be having relationship/marriage there but again in venus antra. also was curious about native having affair in venus antra in these particular days when rahu and venus are in transit going over natal mars and venus of the native... well but its outside KAS so lets leave it. in short i need to work hard on KAS as everything i assumed went wrong. thanks/regards harjeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Dear HArjeet, Saturn gives delay when it is connected to A, B, C or their lords by placement or aspect. but A, B, C houses OR their lords, all of them have to be considred together. So either house or lord of A,B, AND C have to be aspected by saturn or placed in these houses (in rasi and navamsa). If its not clear, we can discuss example charts. --Manoshi > respected manoshiji, > yes i skipped jupiter's delay. here it aspects lord of A and B. C can > be optional i guess for jupiter(from one of the posts u or balaji > forwarded before on the messages). > because of my limited understanding i am still confused about delay > although i had checked lessons and do it again but want to confirm... > if saturn just aspects or is in any one of the house or aspects any > one of the lord.. it would give dealy ? > let me put it this way. > 1) saturn in A B or C would give delay (any one of them). > 2) saturn aspecting A B or C would give delay (any one of them). > 3) saturn aspecting lord of A B or C would give delay (any one of them). > > 4) for jupiter it has to aspect both A and B or lord of both A and B > to give delay. > 5) jupiter in A and aspecting B or in B aspecting A gives delay. > > i dont want to give u trouble and would myself go thru lessons > again... but it would be like an interactive session kind of help if > its possible for u to rectify the above 5 points. > > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > here is my analysis: > > > > Marriage: > > > > Delay: > > > > Saturn: NO (attn: Harjeet: delay of saturn is only when saturn is > > in/with or aspects A,B,C or LoA,LOB, LoC all of them together). > > > > Jupiter: YES Delay of jupiter gets over in jul 2002. > > > > Saturn antra was running at that time, which is almost over. So, > > next is mercury. Less points in WS, but is SD to venus. 7th house is > > afflicted (7th lord with 6th lord), 1:7 house lords in 1:4 in > > navamsa (opposition), saturn with sun in navamsa. but, I would not > > have considered Mercury as the marriage giving planet either (as > > Harjeet said).Mercury aspects house C, but as SD it can give. > > > > I am not satisfied with marriage timing. May be Ash can pitch in > > here. > > > > Actually, if I change the birth time to 22:20, mercury can give > > marriage being SD to Mars and having 23 points. > > > > > > > > Preeti could you please let me know, > > > > 1)when did you work for the first time? was it year 99August- 2002 > > july? > > > > 2)Could you confirm if you worked in 2003-2005? > > > > 3)Could you confirm if your birth time may be different than what > > you said? > > > > 4)Yours was an arraged marriage? and is it a compromise? > > > > 5)Did you work in 2005-2006 Feb? > > > > 6) you have already confirmed that you have worked in software. > > > > 7) when you say unhappy married life, what do you mean (if you are > > comfortable answering this question)? > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Ashji, > > > Need your help here. > > > Using KAS we get the AD for marriage to be of mercury (1st sector). > > > Here saturn aspects house B (7th for marriage).. i guess its delay > > is > > > not considered as it becomes lord of D for 7th house. since there > > is > > > no 5:9 relationship between lord of 1 and 9 ? > > > > > > For B (house 7) here no planet is very strong indicator and max > > points > > > are 13. Marriage happened in mercury antra which is giving only 2 > > > points for marriage... hence troubled marriage. mercury is > > samdhari to > > > venus lord of E but very weak significator of marriage and is also > > > with lord of 12th from B. if marriage date wouldnt have been given > > i > > > would have skipped mercury antra. > > > > > > About abroad taking 12th house as B. mercury again is samdhari to > > > venus which is lord of A. Mercury and venus have more than 5 > > points (6 > > > points here) so would give the effects of house 4th and 8th from > > its > > > position. here 8th from 5th would be 12th house. hence native went > > > abroad in mercury antra ? also being samdhari to venus who is a > > strong > > > significator for house B (12th house) getting 18 points. > > > > > > I am still very amused about mercury being samdhari to venus and > > > having only 2 points and not even lord of D or E able to give > > marriage > > > ? i think i am missing something important here. please guide at > > your > > > leisure. > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 respected manoshiji, thanks very much for reply and taking trouble dealing with a slow head like me. So saturn has to be connected either by aspect, placement or conjuction with all A,B and C or their lords. Now i have doubt about " in rasi and navamsa. " it can be either of rasi or navamsa. or has to be both. or can be A, B and C all connected in rasi and navamsa combined like just a hypothetical example. Saturn is in house B aspecting lord of A in rasi and in conjunction with lord of C in navamsa would give delay. I dont remember but i think i read somewhere that when saturn is connected with all A, B and C it gives 1.75 times delay ? I am very sorry to give u trouble... but with my very limited abilities i was unable to understand clearly. actually i work in a store having very long hours... so cant concentrate and have very limited resources(not supposed to download or use internet) and time. so sometimes i ask for help and wont be able to respond too. i would try to find examples in the messages myself... if u could provide some it would be a great help. i am very grateful to you and Ashji for having patience dealing with me. thanks/regards harjeet , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa wrote: > > Dear HArjeet, > > Saturn gives delay when it is connected to A, B, C or their lords by > placement or aspect. but A, B, C houses OR their lords, all of them > have to be considred together. So either house or lord of A,B, AND C > have to be aspected by saturn or placed in these houses (in rasi and > navamsa). > > If its not clear, we can discuss example charts. > > --Manoshi > > > > respected manoshiji, > > yes i skipped jupiter's delay. here it aspects lord of A and B. C > can > > be optional i guess for jupiter(from one of the posts u or balaji > > forwarded before on the messages). > > because of my limited understanding i am still confused about delay > > although i had checked lessons and do it again but want to > confirm... > > if saturn just aspects or is in any one of the house or aspects any > > one of the lord.. it would give dealy ? > > let me put it this way. > > 1) saturn in A B or C would give delay (any one of them). > > 2) saturn aspecting A B or C would give delay (any one of them). > > 3) saturn aspecting lord of A B or C would give delay (any one of > them). > > > > 4) for jupiter it has to aspect both A and B or lord of both A and > B > > to give delay. > > 5) jupiter in A and aspecting B or in B aspecting A gives delay. > > > > i dont want to give u trouble and would myself go thru lessons > > again... but it would be like an interactive session kind of help > if > > its possible for u to rectify the above 5 points. > > > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > here is my analysis: > > > > > > Marriage: > > > > > > Delay: > > > > > > Saturn: NO (attn: Harjeet: delay of saturn is only when saturn > is > > > in/with or aspects A,B,C or LoA,LOB, LoC all of them together). > > > > > > Jupiter: YES Delay of jupiter gets over in jul 2002. > > > > > > Saturn antra was running at that time, which is almost over. So, > > > next is mercury. Less points in WS, but is SD to venus. 7th > house is > > > afflicted (7th lord with 6th lord), 1:7 house lords in 1:4 in > > > navamsa (opposition), saturn with sun in navamsa. but, I would > not > > > have considered Mercury as the marriage giving planet either (as > > > Harjeet said).Mercury aspects house C, but as SD it can give. > > > > > > I am not satisfied with marriage timing. May be Ash can pitch in > > > here. > > > > > > Actually, if I change the birth time to 22:20, mercury can give > > > marriage being SD to Mars and having 23 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > Preeti could you please let me know, > > > > > > 1)when did you work for the first time? was it year 99August- > 2002 > > > july? > > > > > > 2)Could you confirm if you worked in 2003-2005? > > > > > > 3)Could you confirm if your birth time may be different than > what > > > you said? > > > > > > 4)Yours was an arraged marriage? and is it a compromise? > > > > > > 5)Did you work in 2005-2006 Feb? > > > > > > 6) you have already confirmed that you have worked in software. > > > > > > 7) when you say unhappy married life, what do you mean (if you > are > > > comfortable answering this question)? > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, > > > > Need your help here. > > > > Using KAS we get the AD for marriage to be of mercury (1st > sector). > > > > Here saturn aspects house B (7th for marriage).. i guess its > delay > > > is > > > > not considered as it becomes lord of D for 7th house. since > there > > > is > > > > no 5:9 relationship between lord of 1 and 9 ? > > > > > > > > For B (house 7) here no planet is very strong indicator and > max > > > points > > > > are 13. Marriage happened in mercury antra which is giving > only 2 > > > > points for marriage... hence troubled marriage. mercury is > > > samdhari to > > > > venus lord of E but very weak significator of marriage and is > also > > > > with lord of 12th from B. if marriage date wouldnt have been > given > > > i > > > > would have skipped mercury antra. > > > > > > > > About abroad taking 12th house as B. mercury again is samdhari > to > > > > venus which is lord of A. Mercury and venus have more than 5 > > > points (6 > > > > points here) so would give the effects of house 4th and 8th > from > > > its > > > > position. here 8th from 5th would be 12th house. hence native > went > > > > abroad in mercury antra ? also being samdhari to venus who is > a > > > strong > > > > significator for house B (12th house) getting 18 points. > > > > > > > > I am still very amused about mercury being samdhari to venus > and > > > > having only 2 points and not even lord of D or E able to give > > > marriage > > > > ? i think i am missing something important here. please guide > at > > > your > > > > leisure. > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 respected manoshiji, i think i got the answers from the archives. saturn gives delay when it is connected with A, B and C or their lords through aspect, conjunction or position. It should happen in rasi kundli or navamsa. but not combined. so discard the previous message. thanks/regards harjeet , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > respected manoshiji, > thanks very much for reply and taking trouble dealing with a slow head > like me. > So saturn has to be connected either by aspect, placement or > conjuction with all A,B and C or their lords. > > Now i have doubt about " in rasi and navamsa. " > it can be either of rasi or navamsa. or has to be both. or can be A, B > and C all connected in rasi and navamsa combined like just a > hypothetical example. > Saturn is in house B aspecting lord of A in rasi and in conjunction > with lord of C in navamsa would give delay. > > I dont remember but i think i read somewhere that when saturn is > connected with all A, B and C it gives 1.75 times delay ? > > I am very sorry to give u trouble... but with my very limited > abilities i was unable to understand clearly. > > actually i work in a store having very long hours... so cant > concentrate and have very limited resources(not supposed to download > or use internet) and time. so sometimes i ask for help and wont be > able to respond too. i would try to find examples in the messages > myself... if u could provide some it would be a great help. > > i am very grateful to you and Ashji for having patience dealing with me. > > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > Dear HArjeet, > > > > Saturn gives delay when it is connected to A, B, C or their lords by > > placement or aspect. but A, B, C houses OR their lords, all of them > > have to be considred together. So either house or lord of A,B, AND C > > have to be aspected by saturn or placed in these houses (in rasi and > > navamsa). > > > > If its not clear, we can discuss example charts. > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > respected manoshiji, > > > yes i skipped jupiter's delay. here it aspects lord of A and B. C > > can > > > be optional i guess for jupiter(from one of the posts u or balaji > > > forwarded before on the messages). > > > because of my limited understanding i am still confused about delay > > > although i had checked lessons and do it again but want to > > confirm... > > > if saturn just aspects or is in any one of the house or aspects any > > > one of the lord.. it would give dealy ? > > > let me put it this way. > > > 1) saturn in A B or C would give delay (any one of them). > > > 2) saturn aspecting A B or C would give delay (any one of them). > > > 3) saturn aspecting lord of A B or C would give delay (any one of > > them). > > > > > > 4) for jupiter it has to aspect both A and B or lord of both A and > > B > > > to give delay. > > > 5) jupiter in A and aspecting B or in B aspecting A gives delay. > > > > > > i dont want to give u trouble and would myself go thru lessons > > > again... but it would be like an interactive session kind of help > > if > > > its possible for u to rectify the above 5 points. > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > here is my analysis: > > > > > > > > Marriage: > > > > > > > > Delay: > > > > > > > > Saturn: NO (attn: Harjeet: delay of saturn is only when saturn > > is > > > > in/with or aspects A,B,C or LoA,LOB, LoC all of them together). > > > > > > > > Jupiter: YES Delay of jupiter gets over in jul 2002. > > > > > > > > Saturn antra was running at that time, which is almost over. So, > > > > next is mercury. Less points in WS, but is SD to venus. 7th > > house is > > > > afflicted (7th lord with 6th lord), 1:7 house lords in 1:4 in > > > > navamsa (opposition), saturn with sun in navamsa. but, I would > > not > > > > have considered Mercury as the marriage giving planet either (as > > > > Harjeet said).Mercury aspects house C, but as SD it can give. > > > > > > > > I am not satisfied with marriage timing. May be Ash can pitch in > > > > here. > > > > > > > > Actually, if I change the birth time to 22:20, mercury can give > > > > marriage being SD to Mars and having 23 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Preeti could you please let me know, > > > > > > > > 1)when did you work for the first time? was it year 99August- > > 2002 > > > > july? > > > > > > > > 2)Could you confirm if you worked in 2003-2005? > > > > > > > > 3)Could you confirm if your birth time may be different than > > what > > > > you said? > > > > > > > > 4)Yours was an arraged marriage? and is it a compromise? > > > > > > > > 5)Did you work in 2005-2006 Feb? > > > > > > > > 6) you have already confirmed that you have worked in software. > > > > > > > > 7) when you say unhappy married life, what do you mean (if you > > are > > > > comfortable answering this question)? > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, > > > > > Need your help here. > > > > > Using KAS we get the AD for marriage to be of mercury (1st > > sector). > > > > > Here saturn aspects house B (7th for marriage).. i guess its > > delay > > > > is > > > > > not considered as it becomes lord of D for 7th house. since > > there > > > > is > > > > > no 5:9 relationship between lord of 1 and 9 ? > > > > > > > > > > For B (house 7) here no planet is very strong indicator and > > max > > > > points > > > > > are 13. Marriage happened in mercury antra which is giving > > only 2 > > > > > points for marriage... hence troubled marriage. mercury is > > > > samdhari to > > > > > venus lord of E but very weak significator of marriage and is > > also > > > > > with lord of 12th from B. if marriage date wouldnt have been > > given > > > > i > > > > > would have skipped mercury antra. > > > > > > > > > > About abroad taking 12th house as B. mercury again is samdhari > > to > > > > > venus which is lord of A. Mercury and venus have more than 5 > > > > points (6 > > > > > points here) so would give the effects of house 4th and 8th > > from > > > > its > > > > > position. here 8th from 5th would be 12th house. hence native > > went > > > > > abroad in mercury antra ? also being samdhari to venus who is > > a > > > > strong > > > > > significator for house B (12th house) getting 18 points. > > > > > > > > > > I am still very amused about mercury being samdhari to venus > > and > > > > > having only 2 points and not even lord of D or E able to give > > > > marriage > > > > > ? i think i am missing something important here. please guide > > at > > > > your > > > > > leisure. > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 that's nice Harjeet. I am impressed to see your dedication. We are here to halp each other learning. regards Manoshi , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > respected manoshiji, > i think i got the answers from the archives. > saturn gives delay when it is connected with A, B and C or their lords > through aspect, conjunction or position. It should happen in rasi > kundli or navamsa. but not combined. > so discard the previous message. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > respected manoshiji, > > thanks very much for reply and taking trouble dealing with a slow head > > like me. > > So saturn has to be connected either by aspect, placement or > > conjuction with all A,B and C or their lords. > > > > Now i have doubt about " in rasi and navamsa. " > > it can be either of rasi or navamsa. or has to be both. or can be A, B > > and C all connected in rasi and navamsa combined like just a > > hypothetical example. > > Saturn is in house B aspecting lord of A in rasi and in conjunction > > with lord of C in navamsa would give delay. > > > > I dont remember but i think i read somewhere that when saturn is > > connected with all A, B and C it gives 1.75 times delay ? > > > > I am very sorry to give u trouble... but with my very limited > > abilities i was unable to understand clearly. > > > > actually i work in a store having very long hours... so cant > > concentrate and have very limited resources(not supposed to download > > or use internet) and time. so sometimes i ask for help and wont be > > able to respond too. i would try to find examples in the messages > > myself... if u could provide some it would be a great help. > > > > i am very grateful to you and Ashji for having patience dealing with me. > > > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear HArjeet, > > > > > > Saturn gives delay when it is connected to A, B, C or their lords by > > > placement or aspect. but A, B, C houses OR their lords, all of them > > > have to be considred together. So either house or lord of A,B, AND C > > > have to be aspected by saturn or placed in these houses (in rasi and > > > navamsa). > > > > > > If its not clear, we can discuss example charts. > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > respected manoshiji, > > > > yes i skipped jupiter's delay. here it aspects lord of A and B. C > > > can > > > > be optional i guess for jupiter(from one of the posts u or balaji > > > > forwarded before on the messages). > > > > because of my limited understanding i am still confused about delay > > > > although i had checked lessons and do it again but want to > > > confirm... > > > > if saturn just aspects or is in any one of the house or aspects any > > > > one of the lord.. it would give dealy ? > > > > let me put it this way. > > > > 1) saturn in A B or C would give delay (any one of them). > > > > 2) saturn aspecting A B or C would give delay (any one of them). > > > > 3) saturn aspecting lord of A B or C would give delay (any one of > > > them). > > > > > > > > 4) for jupiter it has to aspect both A and B or lord of both A and > > > B > > > > to give delay. > > > > 5) jupiter in A and aspecting B or in B aspecting A gives delay. > > > > > > > > i dont want to give u trouble and would myself go thru lessons > > > > again... but it would be like an interactive session kind of help > > > if > > > > its possible for u to rectify the above 5 points. > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > here is my analysis: > > > > > > > > > > Marriage: > > > > > > > > > > Delay: > > > > > > > > > > Saturn: NO (attn: Harjeet: delay of saturn is only when saturn > > > is > > > > > in/with or aspects A,B,C or LoA,LOB, LoC all of them together). > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter: YES Delay of jupiter gets over in jul 2002. > > > > > > > > > > Saturn antra was running at that time, which is almost over. So, > > > > > next is mercury. Less points in WS, but is SD to venus. 7th > > > house is > > > > > afflicted (7th lord with 6th lord), 1:7 house lords in 1:4 in > > > > > navamsa (opposition), saturn with sun in navamsa. but, I would > > > not > > > > > have considered Mercury as the marriage giving planet either (as > > > > > Harjeet said).Mercury aspects house C, but as SD it can give. > > > > > > > > > > I am not satisfied with marriage timing. May be Ash can pitch in > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > Actually, if I change the birth time to 22:20, mercury can give > > > > > marriage being SD to Mars and having 23 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Preeti could you please let me know, > > > > > > > > > > 1)when did you work for the first time? was it year 99August- > > > 2002 > > > > > july? > > > > > > > > > > 2)Could you confirm if you worked in 2003-2005? > > > > > > > > > > 3)Could you confirm if your birth time may be different than > > > what > > > > > you said? > > > > > > > > > > 4)Yours was an arraged marriage? and is it a compromise? > > > > > > > > > > 5)Did you work in 2005-2006 Feb? > > > > > > > > > > 6) you have already confirmed that you have worked in software. > > > > > > > > > > 7) when you say unhappy married life, what do you mean (if you > > > are > > > > > comfortable answering this question)? > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, > > > > > > Need your help here. > > > > > > Using KAS we get the AD for marriage to be of mercury (1st > > > sector). > > > > > > Here saturn aspects house B (7th for marriage).. i guess its > > > delay > > > > > is > > > > > > not considered as it becomes lord of D for 7th house. since > > > there > > > > > is > > > > > > no 5:9 relationship between lord of 1 and 9 ? > > > > > > > > > > > > For B (house 7) here no planet is very strong indicator and > > > max > > > > > points > > > > > > are 13. Marriage happened in mercury antra which is giving > > > only 2 > > > > > > points for marriage... hence troubled marriage. mercury is > > > > > samdhari to > > > > > > venus lord of E but very weak significator of marriage and is > > > also > > > > > > with lord of 12th from B. if marriage date wouldnt have been > > > given > > > > > i > > > > > > would have skipped mercury antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > About abroad taking 12th house as B. mercury again is samdhari > > > to > > > > > > venus which is lord of A. Mercury and venus have more than 5 > > > > > points (6 > > > > > > points here) so would give the effects of house 4th and 8th > > > from > > > > > its > > > > > > position. here 8th from 5th would be 12th house. hence native > > > went > > > > > > abroad in mercury antra ? also being samdhari to venus who is > > > a > > > > > strong > > > > > > significator for house B (12th house) getting 18 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am still very amused about mercury being samdhari to venus > > > and > > > > > > having only 2 points and not even lord of D or E able to give > > > > > marriage > > > > > > ? i think i am missing something important here. please guide > > > at > > > > > your > > > > > > leisure. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 oh! onemore thing...saturn's connection can be combined if it is connected with the lords of A, B,C by aspect or position of rasi chart in navamsa. (did that make sense?) look into archives, you will get many many charts done on marriage where saturn has caused delay. Saturn in 5th house in rasi OR navamsa straight away gives delay. (if 1st and 5th lords are not in 5:9). Check more charts. I will try to post some charts on marriage and then we can all solve them together. regards Manoshi check these charts and let us know the time of marriage: (others can participate too) , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > respected manoshiji, > i think i got the answers from the archives. > saturn gives delay when it is connected with A, B and C or their lords > through aspect, conjunction or position. It should happen in rasi > kundli or navamsa. but not combined. > so discard the previous message. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > respected manoshiji, > > thanks very much for reply and taking trouble dealing with a slow head > > like me. > > So saturn has to be connected either by aspect, placement or > > conjuction with all A,B and C or their lords. > > > > Now i have doubt about " in rasi and navamsa. " > > it can be either of rasi or navamsa. or has to be both. or can be A, B > > and C all connected in rasi and navamsa combined like just a > > hypothetical example. > > Saturn is in house B aspecting lord of A in rasi and in conjunction > > with lord of C in navamsa would give delay. > > > > I dont remember but i think i read somewhere that when saturn is > > connected with all A, B and C it gives 1.75 times delay ? > > > > I am very sorry to give u trouble... but with my very limited > > abilities i was unable to understand clearly. > > > > actually i work in a store having very long hours... so cant > > concentrate and have very limited resources(not supposed to download > > or use internet) and time. so sometimes i ask for help and wont be > > able to respond too. i would try to find examples in the messages > > myself... if u could provide some it would be a great help. > > > > i am very grateful to you and Ashji for having patience dealing with me. > > > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear HArjeet, > > > > > > Saturn gives delay when it is connected to A, B, C or their lords by > > > placement or aspect. but A, B, C houses OR their lords, all of them > > > have to be considred together. So either house or lord of A,B, AND C > > > have to be aspected by saturn or placed in these houses (in rasi and > > > navamsa). > > > > > > If its not clear, we can discuss example charts. > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > respected manoshiji, > > > > yes i skipped jupiter's delay. here it aspects lord of A and B. C > > > can > > > > be optional i guess for jupiter(from one of the posts u or balaji > > > > forwarded before on the messages). > > > > because of my limited understanding i am still confused about delay > > > > although i had checked lessons and do it again but want to > > > confirm... > > > > if saturn just aspects or is in any one of the house or aspects any > > > > one of the lord.. it would give dealy ? > > > > let me put it this way. > > > > 1) saturn in A B or C would give delay (any one of them). > > > > 2) saturn aspecting A B or C would give delay (any one of them). > > > > 3) saturn aspecting lord of A B or C would give delay (any one of > > > them). > > > > > > > > 4) for jupiter it has to aspect both A and B or lord of both A and > > > B > > > > to give delay. > > > > 5) jupiter in A and aspecting B or in B aspecting A gives delay. > > > > > > > > i dont want to give u trouble and would myself go thru lessons > > > > again... but it would be like an interactive session kind of help > > > if > > > > its possible for u to rectify the above 5 points. > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > here is my analysis: > > > > > > > > > > Marriage: > > > > > > > > > > Delay: > > > > > > > > > > Saturn: NO (attn: Harjeet: delay of saturn is only when saturn > > > is > > > > > in/with or aspects A,B,C or LoA,LOB, LoC all of them together). > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter: YES Delay of jupiter gets over in jul 2002. > > > > > > > > > > Saturn antra was running at that time, which is almost over. So, > > > > > next is mercury. Less points in WS, but is SD to venus. 7th > > > house is > > > > > afflicted (7th lord with 6th lord), 1:7 house lords in 1:4 in > > > > > navamsa (opposition), saturn with sun in navamsa. but, I would > > > not > > > > > have considered Mercury as the marriage giving planet either (as > > > > > Harjeet said).Mercury aspects house C, but as SD it can give. > > > > > > > > > > I am not satisfied with marriage timing. May be Ash can pitch in > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > Actually, if I change the birth time to 22:20, mercury can give > > > > > marriage being SD to Mars and having 23 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Preeti could you please let me know, > > > > > > > > > > 1)when did you work for the first time? was it year 99August- > > > 2002 > > > > > july? > > > > > > > > > > 2)Could you confirm if you worked in 2003-2005? > > > > > > > > > > 3)Could you confirm if your birth time may be different than > > > what > > > > > you said? > > > > > > > > > > 4)Yours was an arraged marriage? and is it a compromise? > > > > > > > > > > 5)Did you work in 2005-2006 Feb? > > > > > > > > > > 6) you have already confirmed that you have worked in software. > > > > > > > > > > 7) when you say unhappy married life, what do you mean (if you > > > are > > > > > comfortable answering this question)? > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, > > > > > > Need your help here. > > > > > > Using KAS we get the AD for marriage to be of mercury (1st > > > sector). > > > > > > Here saturn aspects house B (7th for marriage).. i guess its > > > delay > > > > > is > > > > > > not considered as it becomes lord of D for 7th house. since > > > there > > > > > is > > > > > > no 5:9 relationship between lord of 1 and 9 ? > > > > > > > > > > > > For B (house 7) here no planet is very strong indicator and > > > max > > > > > points > > > > > > are 13. Marriage happened in mercury antra which is giving > > > only 2 > > > > > > points for marriage... hence troubled marriage. mercury is > > > > > samdhari to > > > > > > venus lord of E but very weak significator of marriage and is > > > also > > > > > > with lord of 12th from B. if marriage date wouldnt have been > > > given > > > > > i > > > > > > would have skipped mercury antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > About abroad taking 12th house as B. mercury again is samdhari > > > to > > > > > > venus which is lord of A. Mercury and venus have more than 5 > > > > > points (6 > > > > > > points here) so would give the effects of house 4th and 8th > > > from > > > > > its > > > > > > position. here 8th from 5th would be 12th house. hence native > > > went > > > > > > abroad in mercury antra ? also being samdhari to venus who is > > > a > > > > > strong > > > > > > significator for house B (12th house) getting 18 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am still very amused about mercury being samdhari to venus > > > and > > > > > > having only 2 points and not even lord of D or E able to give > > > > > marriage > > > > > > ? i think i am missing something important here. please guide > > > at > > > > > your > > > > > > leisure. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 thanks very much manoshiji, yeah i would try to solve the charts. saturns connection can be combined means.... say saturn connection to A and B in rasi and aspects C in navamsa. so can this be called delay ? lord of 1st and 9th should be in 5:9 only. conjunction or opposition doesnt count. thanks/regards harjeet , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa wrote: > > oh! onemore thing...saturn's connection can be combined if it is > connected with the lords of A, B,C by aspect or position of rasi > chart in navamsa. (did that make sense?) > > look into archives, you will get many many charts done on marriage > where saturn has caused delay. Saturn in 5th house in rasi OR > navamsa straight away gives delay. (if 1st and 5th lords are not in > 5:9). Check more charts. I will try to post some charts on marriage > and then we can all solve them together. > > regards > Manoshi > > > check these charts and let us know the time of marriage: (others can > participate too) > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > respected manoshiji, > > i think i got the answers from the archives. > > saturn gives delay when it is connected with A, B and C or their > lords > > through aspect, conjunction or position. It should happen in rasi > > kundli or navamsa. but not combined. > > so discard the previous message. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > respected manoshiji, > > > thanks very much for reply and taking trouble dealing with a > slow head > > > like me. > > > So saturn has to be connected either by aspect, placement or > > > conjuction with all A,B and C or their lords. > > > > > > Now i have doubt about " in rasi and navamsa. " > > > it can be either of rasi or navamsa. or has to be both. or can > be A, B > > > and C all connected in rasi and navamsa combined like just a > > > hypothetical example. > > > Saturn is in house B aspecting lord of A in rasi and in > conjunction > > > with lord of C in navamsa would give delay. > > > > > > I dont remember but i think i read somewhere that when saturn is > > > connected with all A, B and C it gives 1.75 times delay ? > > > > > > I am very sorry to give u trouble... but with my very limited > > > abilities i was unable to understand clearly. > > > > > > actually i work in a store having very long hours... so cant > > > concentrate and have very limited resources(not supposed to > download > > > or use internet) and time. so sometimes i ask for help and wont > be > > > able to respond too. i would try to find examples in the messages > > > myself... if u could provide some it would be a great help. > > > > > > i am very grateful to you and Ashji for having patience dealing > with me. > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear HArjeet, > > > > > > > > Saturn gives delay when it is connected to A, B, C or their > lords by > > > > placement or aspect. but A, B, C houses OR their lords, all of > them > > > > have to be considred together. So either house or lord of A,B, > AND C > > > > have to be aspected by saturn or placed in these houses (in > rasi and > > > > navamsa). > > > > > > > > If its not clear, we can discuss example charts. > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > respected manoshiji, > > > > > yes i skipped jupiter's delay. here it aspects lord of A and > B. C > > > > can > > > > > be optional i guess for jupiter(from one of the posts u or > balaji > > > > > forwarded before on the messages). > > > > > because of my limited understanding i am still confused > about delay > > > > > although i had checked lessons and do it again but want to > > > > confirm... > > > > > if saturn just aspects or is in any one of the house or > aspects any > > > > > one of the lord.. it would give dealy ? > > > > > let me put it this way. > > > > > 1) saturn in A B or C would give delay (any one of them). > > > > > 2) saturn aspecting A B or C would give delay (any one of > them). > > > > > 3) saturn aspecting lord of A B or C would give delay (any > one of > > > > them). > > > > > > > > > > 4) for jupiter it has to aspect both A and B or lord of both > A and > > > > B > > > > > to give delay. > > > > > 5) jupiter in A and aspecting B or in B aspecting A gives > delay. > > > > > > > > > > i dont want to give u trouble and would myself go thru > lessons > > > > > again... but it would be like an interactive session kind of > help > > > > if > > > > > its possible for u to rectify the above 5 points. > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > here is my analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > Marriage: > > > > > > > > > > > > Delay: > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn: NO (attn: Harjeet: delay of saturn is only when > saturn > > > > is > > > > > > in/with or aspects A,B,C or LoA,LOB, LoC all of them > together). > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter: YES Delay of jupiter gets over in jul 2002. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn antra was running at that time, which is almost > over. So, > > > > > > next is mercury. Less points in WS, but is SD to venus. > 7th > > > > house is > > > > > > afflicted (7th lord with 6th lord), 1:7 house lords in 1:4 > in > > > > > > navamsa (opposition), saturn with sun in navamsa. but, I > would > > > > not > > > > > > have considered Mercury as the marriage giving planet > either (as > > > > > > Harjeet said).Mercury aspects house C, but as SD it can > give. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not satisfied with marriage timing. May be Ash can > pitch in > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, if I change the birth time to 22:20, mercury can > give > > > > > > marriage being SD to Mars and having 23 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Preeti could you please let me know, > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)when did you work for the first time? was it year > 99August- > > > > 2002 > > > > > > july? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)Could you confirm if you worked in 2003-2005? > > > > > > > > > > > > 3)Could you confirm if your birth time may be different > than > > > > what > > > > > > you said? > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)Yours was an arraged marriage? and is it a compromise? > > > > > > > > > > > > 5)Did you work in 2005-2006 Feb? > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) you have already confirmed that you have worked in > software. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) when you say unhappy married life, what do you mean (if > you > > > > are > > > > > > comfortable answering this question)? > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, > > > > > > > Need your help here. > > > > > > > Using KAS we get the AD for marriage to be of mercury > (1st > > > > sector). > > > > > > > Here saturn aspects house B (7th for marriage).. i guess > its > > > > delay > > > > > > is > > > > > > > not considered as it becomes lord of D for 7th house. > since > > > > there > > > > > > is > > > > > > > no 5:9 relationship between lord of 1 and 9 ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For B (house 7) here no planet is very strong indicator > and > > > > max > > > > > > points > > > > > > > are 13. Marriage happened in mercury antra which is > giving > > > > only 2 > > > > > > > points for marriage... hence troubled marriage. mercury > is > > > > > > samdhari to > > > > > > > venus lord of E but very weak significator of marriage > and is > > > > also > > > > > > > with lord of 12th from B. if marriage date wouldnt have > been > > > > given > > > > > > i > > > > > > > would have skipped mercury antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > About abroad taking 12th house as B. mercury again is > samdhari > > > > to > > > > > > > venus which is lord of A. Mercury and venus have more > than 5 > > > > > > points (6 > > > > > > > points here) so would give the effects of house 4th and > 8th > > > > from > > > > > > its > > > > > > > position. here 8th from 5th would be 12th house. hence > native > > > > went > > > > > > > abroad in mercury antra ? also being samdhari to venus > who is > > > > a > > > > > > strong > > > > > > > significator for house B (12th house) getting 18 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am still very amused about mercury being samdhari to > venus > > > > and > > > > > > > having only 2 points and not even lord of D or E able to > give > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > ? i think i am missing something important here. please > guide > > > > at > > > > > > your > > > > > > > leisure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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