Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Pratap, We are using KAS and we use Krushnas ayanamsa. You can get the details and lessons and a KAS2006 program from Donnas website. http://krushna.sageasita.com Krushnas Ayanamsa Value for 18th Nov 1944 is 22:11:27 The KAS2006 program contains the parameters that we use in KAS. Hope that helps, Cheers !!! Ash , Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote: > > Harjeet-ji, > > Thanks for trying. May I ask which software and ayanamsa are you using ? I am using Jhora 7.2 and Lahiri ayanamsa. Sun mahadasha starts on 1969-06-09 based on birthdata and software. Are you looking at the same data ? > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > harjeet_bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > Pratapji, > After getting clarifications on some of my doubts... i want to > reattempt and consider the dealy of jupiter in your navamsa chart... > which gets over around 24 years. > no dealy from saturn. > i am tempted to go for moon the samdhari for venus which is strong > significator and lord of E... but i would pass as venus adn moon both > are aspected by rahu and saturn(although benefic sight). > mars cant give marriage in its antra being 12th lord from 7th house > and in 6th house itself. > rahu is samdhari for jupiter which is also a strong significator > having 6 points. being in 1/7 axis i am reluctant to go for rahu antra > too. > next is jupiter antra which i am tempted to go for as it not only has > 6 points so would give result of the 4th house which happens to be the > house B for marriage but it also the samdhari for saturn which has > the most points in worksheet for house 7. > i might be wrong but its worth attempting and learning. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage > date ? > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing > > their understanding. > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your query, > > even better. > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will > > get cleared. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > wrote: > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and > > exercise, > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by zero > > is > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... but > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following about > > > saturn dealy: > > > e.g. > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the > > lord > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. as i > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay is > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D or E > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the > > 1st > > > sector itself. > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B and C > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are > > only > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > > does > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > > libra in > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus > > etc > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > > bhava or > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female in > > 5th > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be aspecting > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > > right > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- In , " kaslearner " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is nullified > > by > > > > lord > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running Moon > > > > antra > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > > marriage > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > additional > > > > 10% > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native is > > in > > > > Sun > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > > chart, > > > > I > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun is > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > > worksheet. > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > > antra. > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > > nice > > > > to > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > , bala sosale > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > PDF > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > > antra > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > > did > > > > not > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > analyse > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > > on > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Pratapji, sorry for that confusion. In KAS we use KAS software and KAS ayanamsa. You can find that on http://krushna.sageasita.com/ site. you can call me harjeet.... i am younger than you sir. regards harjeet , Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote: > > Harjeet-ji, > > Thanks for trying. May I ask which software and ayanamsa are you using ? I am using Jhora 7.2 and Lahiri ayanamsa. Sun mahadasha starts on 1969-06-09 based on birthdata and software. Are you looking at the same data ? > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > harjeet_bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > Pratapji, > After getting clarifications on some of my doubts... i want to > reattempt and consider the dealy of jupiter in your navamsa chart... > which gets over around 24 years. > no dealy from saturn. > i am tempted to go for moon the samdhari for venus which is strong > significator and lord of E... but i would pass as venus adn moon both > are aspected by rahu and saturn(although benefic sight). > mars cant give marriage in its antra being 12th lord from 7th house > and in 6th house itself. > rahu is samdhari for jupiter which is also a strong significator > having 6 points. being in 1/7 axis i am reluctant to go for rahu antra > too. > next is jupiter antra which i am tempted to go for as it not only has > 6 points so would give result of the 4th house which happens to be the > house B for marriage but it also the samdhari for saturn which has > the most points in worksheet for house 7. > i might be wrong but its worth attempting and learning. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage > date ? > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing > > their understanding. > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your query, > > even better. > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will > > get cleared. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > wrote: > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and > > exercise, > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by zero > > is > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... but > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following about > > > saturn dealy: > > > e.g. > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the > > lord > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. as i > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay is > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D or E > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the > > 1st > > > sector itself. > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B and C > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are > > only > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > > does > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > > libra in > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus > > etc > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > > bhava or > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female in > > 5th > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be aspecting > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > > right > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , " kaslearner " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is nullified > > by > > > > lord > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running Moon > > > > antra > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > > marriage > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > additional > > > > 10% > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native is > > in > > > > Sun > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > > chart, > > > > I > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun is > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > > worksheet. > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > > antra. > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > > nice > > > > to > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > , bala sosale > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > PDF > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > > antra > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > > did > > > > not > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > analyse > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > > on > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Ash, Yes. My father expired in the period you have given. Brilliant. " Atleast in my opinion you should be married before Su/Ju antra. Jupiter 1971-Jan-06 1971-Oct-26 " This is correct. I had a daughter born in this period. With regards, Pratap ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pratap, Did your father expire in Mo/Sa antra. Saturn 1979-Mar-20 1980-Oct-19 If you can confirm this it will be good. Ok, yes your birth time is slightly rectified. In any case, its in the ball park. I shall attempt to time your marriage. There is no delay due to Shani. There is delay due to Guru. Venus is in nak of Moola and aspected by Shani. There are no zeroes. So marriage can be after 24 years. At the end of 24 years you were running Ve/Ke. The very end of it. Next powerful antra is that of Su/Mo. Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969-Oct-07 So I feel Moon antra might give u marraige. Atleast in my opinion you should be married before Su/Ju antra. Jupiter 1971-Jan-06 1971-Oct-26 If antra is proper i.e Sun/Mo. Then i will try to narrow it further. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , Pratap Kaneria wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers are below. > > ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us to > verify your birth time. > > Can you confirm the following. > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do with > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching or > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and Shani > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as well as US. > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I worked as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and expenses. > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / work > during > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes changed jobs > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your own > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended in March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might have > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > period is very powerful. > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in getting a big drug manufacturing project started. > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health wise > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon mahadasha. Mother still lives. > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage > date ? > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing > > their understanding. > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > query, > > even better. > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will > > get cleared. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > wrote: > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and > > exercise, > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by > zero > > is > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... > but > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following > about > > > saturn dealy: > > > e.g. > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the > > lord > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. > as i > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay > is > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D > or E > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the > > 1st > > > sector itself. > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B > and C > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are > > only > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > > does > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > > libra in > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus > > etc > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > > bhava or > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female > in > > 5th > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > aspecting > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > > right > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- In , " kaslearner " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > nullified > > by > > > > lord > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running > Moon > > > > antra > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > > marriage > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > additional > > > > 10% > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native > is > > in > > > > Sun > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > > chart, > > > > I > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun > is > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > > worksheet. > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > > antra. > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > Members, > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > > nice > > > > to > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > , bala > sosale > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > PDF > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > > antra > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > > did > > > > not > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > analyse > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > > on > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Ash, I am not able to get Jupiter Delay.. Can you explain?? Thanks Gita , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Pratap, > > Did your father expire in Mo/Sa antra. > > Saturn 1979-Mar-20 1980-Oct-19 > > If you can confirm this it will be good. > > Ok, yes your birth time is slightly rectified. > > In any case, its in the ball park. > > I shall attempt to time your marriage. > > There is no delay due to Shani. There is delay due to Guru. Venus > is in nak of Moola and aspected by Shani. There are no zeroes. > > So marriage can be after 24 years. > > At the end of 24 years you were running Ve/Ke. The very end of it. > > Next powerful antra is that of Su/Mo. > > Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969-Oct-07 > > So I feel Moon antra might give u marraige. > > > Atleast in my opinion you should be married before Su/Ju antra. > > Jupiter 1971-Jan-06 1971- Oct-26 > > > If antra is proper i.e Sun/Mo. Then i will try to narrow it further. > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is > rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers are > below. > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > Dear Pratap, > > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us to > > verify your birth time. > > > > Can you confirm the following. > > > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do with > > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching or > > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and > Shani > > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as > well as US. > > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I worked > as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and > expenses. > > > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / work > > during > > > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes changed > jobs > > > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your own > > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended in > March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might have > > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > > period is very powerful. > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in getting > a big drug manufacturing project started. > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative > consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health wise > > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon mahadasha. > Mother still lives. > > > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > > > Thanks, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. > > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my > > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage > > date ? > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by > sharing > > > their understanding. > > > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > > query, > > > even better. > > > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things > will > > > get cleared. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > --- In > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach > and > > > exercise, > > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by > > zero > > > is > > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in > 5:9... > > but > > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following > > about > > > > saturn dealy: > > > > e.g. > > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its > the > > > lord > > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. > > as i > > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the > delay > > is > > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > > > reaches > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D > > or E > > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > > > reaches > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in > the > > > 1st > > > > sector itself. > > > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B > > and C > > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 > degree > > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 > are > > > only > > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 > positioning... > > > does > > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > > > libra in > > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly > 4 > > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, > venus > > > etc > > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > > > bhava or > > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female > > in > > > 5th > > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > > aspecting > > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking > the > > > right > > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " kaslearner " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > > nullified > > > by > > > > > lord > > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running > > Moon > > > > > antra > > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > > > marriage > > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > > additional > > > > > 10% > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native > > is > > > in > > > > > Sun > > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in > the > > > chart, > > > > > I > > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun > > is > > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > > > worksheet. > > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > > > antra. > > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the > wishes > > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > > Members, > > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will > be > > > nice > > > > > to > > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > , bala > > sosale > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > > PDF > > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > > > antra > > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > > > did > > > > > not > > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one > click > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Ash, Thanks. I will get the software and lessons. Meanwhile I adjusted Jhora to use Krushna's ayanamsa and Sun Mahadasha starts on 12/21/1968. Is that correct ? With Regards, Pratap ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pratap, We are using KAS and we use Krushnas ayanamsa. You can get the details and lessons and a KAS2006 program from Donnas website. http://krushna.sageasita.com Krushnas Ayanamsa Value for 18th Nov 1944 is 22:11:27 The KAS2006 program contains the parameters that we use in KAS. Hope that helps, Cheers !!! Ash , Pratap Kaneria wrote: > > Harjeet-ji, > > Thanks for trying. May I ask which software and ayanamsa are you using ? I am using Jhora 7.2 and Lahiri ayanamsa. Sun mahadasha starts on 1969-06-09 based on birthdata and software. Are you looking at the same data ? > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > harjeet_bakshi wrote: > Pratapji, > After getting clarifications on some of my doubts... i want to > reattempt and consider the dealy of jupiter in your navamsa chart... > which gets over around 24 years. > no dealy from saturn. > i am tempted to go for moon the samdhari for venus which is strong > significator and lord of E... but i would pass as venus adn moon both > are aspected by rahu and saturn(although benefic sight). > mars cant give marriage in its antra being 12th lord from 7th house > and in 6th house itself. > rahu is samdhari for jupiter which is also a strong significator > having 6 points. being in 1/7 axis i am reluctant to go for rahu antra > too. > next is jupiter antra which i am tempted to go for as it not only has > 6 points so would give result of the 4th house which happens to be the > house B for marriage but it also the samdhari for saturn which has > the most points in worksheet for house 7. > i might be wrong but its worth attempting and learning. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage > date ? > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing > > their understanding. > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your query, > > even better. > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will > > get cleared. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > wrote: > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and > > exercise, > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by zero > > is > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... but > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following about > > > saturn dealy: > > > e.g. > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the > > lord > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. as i > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay is > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D or E > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the > > 1st > > > sector itself. > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B and C > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are > > only > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > > does > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > > libra in > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus > > etc > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > > bhava or > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female in > > 5th > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be aspecting > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > > right > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- In , " kaslearner " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is nullified > > by > > > > lord > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running Moon > > > > antra > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > > marriage > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > additional > > > > 10% > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native is > > in > > > > Sun > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > > chart, > > > > I > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun is > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > > worksheet. > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > > antra. > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > > nice > > > > to > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > , bala sosale > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > PDF > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > > antra > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > > did > > > > not > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > analyse > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > > on > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Gita, Moon is 2nd lord in Rasi and Ju is 7th lord. Ju aspects Moon in Navamsa i.e 2nd lord of Rasi and itself is 7th lord in Rasi. So thats how I got Delay due to Guru. Cheers !!! Ash , " kaslearner " <kaslearner wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > I am not able to get Jupiter Delay.. Can you explain?? > > Thanks > Gita > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > Did your father expire in Mo/Sa antra. > > > > Saturn 1979-Mar-20 1980-Oct-19 > > > > If you can confirm this it will be good. > > > > Ok, yes your birth time is slightly rectified. > > > > In any case, its in the ball park. > > > > I shall attempt to time your marriage. > > > > There is no delay due to Shani. There is delay due to Guru. > Venus > > is in nak of Moola and aspected by Shani. There are no zeroes. > > > > So marriage can be after 24 years. > > > > At the end of 24 years you were running Ve/Ke. The very end of > it. > > > > Next powerful antra is that of Su/Mo. > > > > Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969- Oct-07 > > > > So I feel Moon antra might give u marraige. > > > > > > Atleast in my opinion you should be married before Su/Ju antra. > > > > Jupiter 1971-Jan-06 1971- > Oct-26 > > > > > > If antra is proper i.e Sun/Mo. Then i will try to narrow it > further. > > > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is > > rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers > are > > below. > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Pratap, > > > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us to > > > verify your birth time. > > > > > > Can you confirm the following. > > > > > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do > with > > > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching or > > > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and > > Shani > > > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > > > > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as > > well as US. > > > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I > worked > > as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > > > > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and > > expenses. > > > > > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / work > > > during > > > > > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > > > > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes changed > > jobs > > > > > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your own > > > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended in > > March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > > > > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > > > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > > > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might > have > > > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > > > period is very powerful. > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in > getting > > a big drug manufacturing project started. > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative > > consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > > > > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health wise > > > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon > mahadasha. > > Mother still lives. > > > > > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the > group. > > > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer > my > > > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my > marriage > > > date ? > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > > > > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by > > sharing > > > > their understanding. > > > > > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > > > query, > > > > even better. > > > > > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things > > will > > > > get cleared. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach > > and > > > > exercise, > > > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by > > > zero > > > > is > > > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in > > 5:9... > > > but > > > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the > following > > > about > > > > > saturn dealy: > > > > > e.g. > > > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its > > the > > > > lord > > > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving > delay. > > > as i > > > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > > > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the > > delay > > > is > > > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after > satrun > > > > reaches > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of > D > > > or E > > > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time > it > > > > reaches > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in > > the > > > > 1st > > > > > sector itself. > > > > > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, > B > > > and C > > > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 > > degree > > > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age > of > > > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 > > are > > > > only > > > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 > > positioning... > > > > does > > > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is > in > > > > libra in > > > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having > exactly > > 4 > > > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, > > venus > > > > etc > > > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from > the > > > > bhava or > > > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of > female > > > in > > > > 5th > > > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > > > aspecting > > > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking > > the > > > > right > > > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " kaslearner " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and > > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > > > nullified > > > > by > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is > running > > > Moon > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have > given > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > > > additional > > > > > > 10% > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the > native > > > is > > > > in > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in > > the > > > > chart, > > > > > > I > > > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So > sun > > > is > > > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > > > > worksheet. > > > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the > second > > > > antra. > > > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the > > wishes > > > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > > > Members, > > > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it > will > > be > > > > nice > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , bala > > > sosale > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > > > PDF > > > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > > > > did > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one > > click > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Pratap, Yes, its close. The MD of Sun starts as given below. Sun 1968-Dec-19 1974-Dec-19 Cheers !!! Ash , Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks. I will get the software and lessons. Meanwhile I adjusted Jhora to use Krushna's ayanamsa and Sun Mahadasha starts on 12/21/1968. Is that correct ? > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > > We are using KAS and we use Krushnas ayanamsa. You can get the > details and lessons and a KAS2006 program from Donnas website. > > http://krushna.sageasita.com > > Krushnas Ayanamsa Value for 18th Nov 1944 is 22:11:27 > > The KAS2006 program contains the parameters that we use in KAS. > Hope that helps, > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Harjeet-ji, > > > > Thanks for trying. May I ask which software and ayanamsa are you > using ? I am using Jhora 7.2 and Lahiri ayanamsa. Sun mahadasha > starts on 1969-06-09 based on birthdata and software. Are you > looking at the same data ? > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Pratapji, > > After getting clarifications on some of my doubts... i want to > > reattempt and consider the dealy of jupiter in your navamsa > chart... > > which gets over around 24 years. > > no dealy from saturn. > > i am tempted to go for moon the samdhari for venus which is strong > > significator and lord of E... but i would pass as venus adn moon > both > > are aspected by rahu and saturn(although benefic sight). > > mars cant give marriage in its antra being 12th lord from 7th house > > and in 6th house itself. > > rahu is samdhari for jupiter which is also a strong significator > > having 6 points. being in 1/7 axis i am reluctant to go for rahu > antra > > too. > > next is jupiter antra which i am tempted to go for as it not only > has > > 6 points so would give result of the 4th house which happens to be > the > > house B for marriage but it also the samdhari for saturn which has > > the most points in worksheet for house 7. > > i might be wrong but its worth attempting and learning. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. > > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my > > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage > > date ? > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by > sharing > > > their understanding. > > > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > query, > > > even better. > > > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things > will > > > get cleared. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > --- In > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach > and > > > exercise, > > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by > zero > > > is > > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in > 5:9... but > > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following > about > > > > saturn dealy: > > > > e.g. > > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its > the > > > lord > > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. > as i > > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the > delay is > > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > > > reaches > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D > or E > > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > > > reaches > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in > the > > > 1st > > > > sector itself. > > > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B > and C > > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 > degree > > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 > are > > > only > > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 > positioning... > > > does > > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > > > libra in > > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly > 4 > > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, > venus > > > etc > > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > > > bhava or > > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female > in > > > 5th > > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > aspecting > > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking > the > > > right > > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " kaslearner " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > nullified > > > by > > > > > lord > > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running > Moon > > > > > antra > > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > > > marriage > > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > > additional > > > > > 10% > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native > is > > > in > > > > > Sun > > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in > the > > > chart, > > > > > I > > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun > is > > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > > > worksheet. > > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > > > antra. > > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the > wishes > > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > Members, > > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will > be > > > nice > > > > > to > > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > , bala > sosale > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > > PDF > > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > > > antra > > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > > > did > > > > > not > > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one > click > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Gita, Again my mails are not reaching the list. I have replied to this question. Let me try again. Mo is 2nd lord in Rasi and Ju itself is 7th lord. Ju is aspecting Moon in Navamsa and itself is 7th lord in Rasi. Cheers !!! Ash , " kaslearner " <kaslearner wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > I am not able to get Jupiter Delay.. Can you explain?? > > Thanks > Gita > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > Did your father expire in Mo/Sa antra. > > > > Saturn 1979-Mar-20 1980-Oct-19 > > > > If you can confirm this it will be good. > > > > Ok, yes your birth time is slightly rectified. > > > > In any case, its in the ball park. > > > > I shall attempt to time your marriage. > > > > There is no delay due to Shani. There is delay due to Guru. > Venus > > is in nak of Moola and aspected by Shani. There are no zeroes. > > > > So marriage can be after 24 years. > > > > At the end of 24 years you were running Ve/Ke. The very end of > it. > > > > Next powerful antra is that of Su/Mo. > > > > Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969- Oct-07 > > > > So I feel Moon antra might give u marraige. > > > > > > Atleast in my opinion you should be married before Su/Ju antra. > > > > Jupiter 1971-Jan-06 1971- > Oct-26 > > > > > > If antra is proper i.e Sun/Mo. Then i will try to narrow it > further. > > > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is > > rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers > are > > below. > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Pratap, > > > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us to > > > verify your birth time. > > > > > > Can you confirm the following. > > > > > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do > with > > > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching or > > > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and > > Shani > > > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > > > > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as > > well as US. > > > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I > worked > > as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > > > > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and > > expenses. > > > > > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / work > > > during > > > > > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > > > > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes changed > > jobs > > > > > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your own > > > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended in > > March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > > > > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > > > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > > > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might > have > > > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > > > period is very powerful. > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in > getting > > a big drug manufacturing project started. > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative > > consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > > > > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health wise > > > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon > mahadasha. > > Mother still lives. > > > > > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the > group. > > > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer > my > > > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my > marriage > > > date ? > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > > > > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by > > sharing > > > > their understanding. > > > > > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > > > query, > > > > even better. > > > > > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things > > will > > > > get cleared. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach > > and > > > > exercise, > > > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by > > > zero > > > > is > > > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in > > 5:9... > > > but > > > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the > following > > > about > > > > > saturn dealy: > > > > > e.g. > > > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its > > the > > > > lord > > > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving > delay. > > > as i > > > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > > > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the > > delay > > > is > > > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after > satrun > > > > reaches > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of > D > > > or E > > > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time > it > > > > reaches > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in > > the > > > > 1st > > > > > sector itself. > > > > > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, > B > > > and C > > > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 > > degree > > > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age > of > > > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 > > are > > > > only > > > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 > > positioning... > > > > does > > > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is > in > > > > libra in > > > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having > exactly > > 4 > > > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, > > venus > > > > etc > > > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from > the > > > > bhava or > > > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of > female > > > in > > > > 5th > > > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > > > aspecting > > > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking > > the > > > > right > > > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " kaslearner " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and > > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > > > nullified > > > > by > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is > running > > > Moon > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have > given > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > > > additional > > > > > > 10% > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the > native > > > is > > > > in > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in > > the > > > > chart, > > > > > > I > > > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So > sun > > > is > > > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > > > > worksheet. > > > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the > second > > > > antra. > > > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the > > wishes > > > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > > > Members, > > > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it > will > > be > > > > nice > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , bala > > > sosale > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > > > PDF > > > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > > > > did > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one > > click > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 :-) ======== - Pratap Kaneria Monday, May 08, 2006 11:54 PM Re: Re: New chart .. Yes. My father expired in the period you have given. Brilliant. " Atleast in my opinion you should be married before Su/Ju antra. Jupiter 1971-Jan-06 1971-Oct-26 " This is correct. I had a daughter born in this period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Respected Ashji, Learnt something new again... could have never thought of it. Sir my repeated question again if you can answer please... I dont have any chart to give as an example. but giving a scenario. Jupiter in A in rasi and in navamsa its situated in B. would this also be a dealy of jupiter? sorry for being annoying. thanks/regards harjeet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Gita, > Again my mails are not reaching the list. I have replied to this > question. > > Let me try again. > > Mo is 2nd lord in Rasi and Ju itself is 7th lord. > > Ju is aspecting Moon in Navamsa and itself is 7th lord in Rasi. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > , " kaslearner " > <kaslearner@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > I am not able to get Jupiter Delay.. Can you explain?? > > > > Thanks > > Gita > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > Did your father expire in Mo/Sa antra. > > > > > > Saturn 1979-Mar-20 1980-Oct-19 > > > > > > If you can confirm this it will be good. > > > > > > Ok, yes your birth time is slightly rectified. > > > > > > In any case, its in the ball park. > > > > > > I shall attempt to time your marriage. > > > > > > There is no delay due to Shani. There is delay due to Guru. > > Venus > > > is in nak of Moola and aspected by Shani. There are no zeroes. > > > > > > So marriage can be after 24 years. > > > > > > At the end of 24 years you were running Ve/Ke. The very end of > > it. > > > > > > Next powerful antra is that of Su/Mo. > > > > > > Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969- > Oct-07 > > > > > > So I feel Moon antra might give u marraige. > > > > > > > > > Atleast in my opinion you should be married before Su/Ju antra. > > > > > > Jupiter 1971-Jan-06 1971- > > Oct-26 > > > > > > > > > If antra is proper i.e Sun/Mo. Then i will try to narrow it > > further. > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is > > > rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers > > are > > > below. > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us > to > > > > verify your birth time. > > > > > > > > Can you confirm the following. > > > > > > > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do > > with > > > > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching > or > > > > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and > > > Shani > > > > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > > > > > > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India > as > > > well as US. > > > > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I > > worked > > > as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > > > > > > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income > and > > > expenses. > > > > > > > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / > work > > > > during > > > > > > > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > > > > > > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes > changed > > > jobs > > > > > > > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your > own > > > > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended > in > > > March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > > > > > > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > > > > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > > > > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might > > have > > > > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > > > > period is very powerful. > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in > > getting > > > a big drug manufacturing project started. > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative > > > consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > > > > > > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health > wise > > > > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon > > mahadasha. > > > Mother still lives. > > > > > > > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , Pratap > Kaneria > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the > > group. > > > > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I > volunteer > > my > > > > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > > > > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my > > marriage > > > > date ? > > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > > > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your > thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by > > > sharing > > > > > their understanding. > > > > > > > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > > > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > > > > query, > > > > > even better. > > > > > > > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things > > > will > > > > > get cleared. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed > approach > > > and > > > > > exercise, > > > > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused > by > > > > zero > > > > > is > > > > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in > > > 5:9... > > > > but > > > > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the > > following > > > > about > > > > > > saturn dealy: > > > > > > e.g. > > > > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say > its > > > the > > > > > lord > > > > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving > > delay. > > > > as i > > > > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi > and > > > > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the > > > delay > > > > is > > > > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after > > satrun > > > > > reaches > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord > of > > D > > > > or E > > > > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the > time > > it > > > > > reaches > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur > in > > > the > > > > > 1st > > > > > > sector itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of > A, > > B > > > > and C > > > > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 > > > degree > > > > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the > age > > of > > > > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and > 9 > > > are > > > > > only > > > > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 > > > positioning... > > > > > does > > > > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is > > in > > > > > libra in > > > > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having > > exactly > > > 4 > > > > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, > > > venus > > > > > etc > > > > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from > > the > > > > > bhava or > > > > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of > > female > > > > in > > > > > 5th > > > > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > > > > aspecting > > > > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for > picking > > > the > > > > > right > > > > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " kaslearner " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and > > > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > > > > nullified > > > > > by > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is > > running > > > > Moon > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have > > given > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > > > > additional > > > > > > > 10% > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the > > native > > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage > in > > > the > > > > > chart, > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So > > sun > > > > is > > > > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in > the > > > > > > > worksheet. > > > > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the > > second > > > > > antra. > > > > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the > > > wishes > > > > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > > > > Members, > > > > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it > > will > > > be > > > > > nice > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the > perfect > > > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > , > bala > > > > sosale > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > > > > PDF > > > > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting > the > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope > I > > > > > did > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this > Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one > > > click > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Harjeet, No. Gita answered correctly. We do not take lords in navamsa. Krushnaji had told me that. We only take house. So Sa say in 5th house in navamsa will cause delay. For Rasi, say if Ju is aspecting 2nd lord and 7th house then its delay. Restricted to Rasi. We can check the aspect of Ju on lords or 2nd or 7th OF RASI IN NAVAMSA. Same thing like Sa. for delay due to Sa, how we take. Sa's aspect on House A,B and C or their lords in Rasi or navmsa (means lords of Rasi's 2nd, 7th and 11th). Then we check if Sa is delay causing in Navamsa. There we restrict it to only house. So sa in 5th house in Navamsa will cause full delay as it will ASPECT HOUSE A, B AND C. In navamsa we do not take lords of the house, but only aspect on house. Even if u carefully study the D-Charts WS, we only take the Ashtakvarg power for A+B+C only. i.e .top part of the WS. The bottom part i.e 4:10, aspects etc is not taken. So same thing with Ju. If Ju aspects LoA and LoB in Rasi or Navamsa but Both then there is delay. If Ju is lord of 1 house means 7th or 2nd in Rasi and aspects the other LORD in navamsa that is also delay. For Navamsa, I would think same principles apply, Ju is lord of 1 house in navmsa and it aspects the other house (2nd or 7th house in navamsa), but we dotn take lords of 2nd house in navasma or 7th house. Atleast thats my understanding this far. Cheers !!! Ash , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Respected Ashji, > Learnt something new again... could have never thought of it. > Sir my repeated question again if you can answer please... > I dont have any chart to give as an example. but giving a scenario. > Jupiter in A in rasi and in navamsa its situated in B. > would this also be a dealy of jupiter? > sorry for being annoying. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Gita, > > Again my mails are not reaching the list. I have replied to this > > question. > > > > Let me try again. > > > > Mo is 2nd lord in Rasi and Ju itself is 7th lord. > > > > Ju is aspecting Moon in Navamsa and itself is 7th lord in Rasi. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > , " kaslearner " > > <kaslearner@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > I am not able to get Jupiter Delay.. Can you explain?? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Gita > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > Did your father expire in Mo/Sa antra. > > > > > > > > Saturn 1979-Mar-20 1980-Oct-19 > > > > > > > > If you can confirm this it will be good. > > > > > > > > Ok, yes your birth time is slightly rectified. > > > > > > > > In any case, its in the ball park. > > > > > > > > I shall attempt to time your marriage. > > > > > > > > There is no delay due to Shani. There is delay due to Guru. > > > Venus > > > > is in nak of Moola and aspected by Shani. There are no zeroes. > > > > > > > > So marriage can be after 24 years. > > > > > > > > At the end of 24 years you were running Ve/Ke. The very end of > > > it. > > > > > > > > Next powerful antra is that of Su/Mo. > > > > > > > > Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969- > > Oct-07 > > > > > > > > So I feel Moon antra might give u marraige. > > > > > > > > > > > > Atleast in my opinion you should be married before Su/Ju antra. > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1971-Jan-06 1971- > > > Oct-26 > > > > > > > > > > > > If antra is proper i.e Sun/Mo. Then i will try to narrow it > > > further. > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is > > > > rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers > > > are > > > > below. > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us > > to > > > > > verify your birth time. > > > > > > > > > > Can you confirm the following. > > > > > > > > > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do > > > with > > > > > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching > > or > > > > > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and > > > > Shani > > > > > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > > > > > > > > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India > > as > > > > well as US. > > > > > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I > > > worked > > > > as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > > > > > > > > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income > > and > > > > expenses. > > > > > > > > > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / > > work > > > > > during > > > > > > > > > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > > > > > > > > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes > > changed > > > > jobs > > > > > > > > > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your > > own > > > > > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended > > in > > > > March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > > > > > > > > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > > > > > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > > > > > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might > > > have > > > > > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > > > > > period is very powerful. > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in > > > getting > > > > a big drug manufacturing project started. > > > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative > > > > consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > > > > > > > > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health > > wise > > > > > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon > > > mahadasha. > > > > Mother still lives. > > > > > > > > > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , Pratap > > Kaneria > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the > > > group. > > > > > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I > > volunteer > > > my > > > > > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my > > > marriage > > > > > date ? > > > > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > > > > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your > > thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by > > > > sharing > > > > > > their understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > > > > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > > > > > query, > > > > > > even better. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things > > > > will > > > > > > get cleared. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed > > approach > > > > and > > > > > > exercise, > > > > > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused > > by > > > > > zero > > > > > > is > > > > > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in > > > > 5:9... > > > > > but > > > > > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the > > > following > > > > > about > > > > > > > saturn dealy: > > > > > > > e.g. > > > > > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say > > its > > > > the > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving > > > delay. > > > > > as i > > > > > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi > > and > > > > > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the > > > > delay > > > > > is > > > > > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after > > > satrun > > > > > > reaches > > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord > > of > > > D > > > > > or E > > > > > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the > > time > > > it > > > > > > reaches > > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur > > in > > > > the > > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > sector itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of > > A, > > > B > > > > > and C > > > > > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 > > > > degree > > > > > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the > > age > > > of > > > > > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and > > 9 > > > > are > > > > > > only > > > > > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 > > > > positioning... > > > > > > does > > > > > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is > > > in > > > > > > libra in > > > > > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having > > > exactly > > > > 4 > > > > > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, > > > > venus > > > > > > etc > > > > > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from > > > the > > > > > > bhava or > > > > > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of > > > female > > > > > in > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > > > > > aspecting > > > > > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for > > picking > > > > the > > > > > > right > > > > > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " kaslearner " > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and > > > > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > > > > > nullified > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is > > > running > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have > > > given > > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > > > > > additional > > > > > > > > 10% > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the > > > native > > > > > is > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage > > in > > > > the > > > > > > chart, > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So > > > sun > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in > > the > > > > > > > > worksheet. > > > > > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the > > > second > > > > > > antra. > > > > > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the > > > > wishes > > > > > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > > > > > Members, > > > > > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it > > > will > > > > be > > > > > > nice > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the > > perfect > > > > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , > > bala > > > > > sosale > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > > > > > PDF > > > > > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting > > the > > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope > > I > > > > > > did > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > > > > > 2. 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Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 thank you very very much Ash ji for clearing my doubts. i am going to save this.. and thanks again for the effort of explaining everything clearly and in detail.. and many thanks for dealing with me. i hope not to take mistake again. regards harjeet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > > No. Gita answered correctly. > > We do not take lords in navamsa. Krushnaji had told me that. We > only take house. So Sa say in 5th house in navamsa will cause delay. > > For Rasi, say if Ju is aspecting 2nd lord and 7th house then its > delay. Restricted to Rasi. > > We can check the aspect of Ju on lords or 2nd or 7th OF RASI IN > NAVAMSA. > > Same thing like Sa. > > for delay due to Sa, how we take. Sa's aspect on House A,B and C or > their lords in Rasi or navmsa (means lords of Rasi's 2nd, 7th and > 11th). > > Then we check if Sa is delay causing in Navamsa. > > There we restrict it to only house. So sa in 5th house in Navamsa > will cause full delay as it will ASPECT HOUSE A, B AND C. > > In navamsa we do not take lords of the house, but only aspect on > house. > > Even if u carefully study the D-Charts WS, we only take the > Ashtakvarg power for A+B+C only. i.e .top part of the WS. The > bottom part i.e 4:10, aspects etc is not taken. > > So same thing with Ju. > > If Ju aspects LoA and LoB in Rasi or Navamsa but Both then there is > delay. > > If Ju is lord of 1 house means 7th or 2nd in Rasi and aspects the > other LORD in navamsa that is also delay. > > For Navamsa, I would think same principles apply, Ju is lord of 1 > house in navmsa and it aspects the other house (2nd or 7th house in > navamsa), but we dotn take lords of 2nd house in navasma or 7th > house. > > Atleast thats my understanding this far. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Respected Ashji, > > Learnt something new again... could have never thought of it. > > Sir my repeated question again if you can answer please... > > I dont have any chart to give as an example. but giving a scenario. > > Jupiter in A in rasi and in navamsa its situated in B. > > would this also be a dealy of jupiter? > > sorry for being annoying. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gita, > > > Again my mails are not reaching the list. I have replied to > this > > > question. > > > > > > Let me try again. > > > > > > Mo is 2nd lord in Rasi and Ju itself is 7th lord. > > > > > > Ju is aspecting Moon in Navamsa and itself is 7th lord in Rasi. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > , " kaslearner " > > > <kaslearner@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > I am not able to get Jupiter Delay.. Can you explain?? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > Did your father expire in Mo/Sa antra. > > > > > > > > > > Saturn 1979-Mar-20 1980-Oct-19 > > > > > > > > > > If you can confirm this it will be good. > > > > > > > > > > Ok, yes your birth time is slightly rectified. > > > > > > > > > > In any case, its in the ball park. > > > > > > > > > > I shall attempt to time your marriage. > > > > > > > > > > There is no delay due to Shani. There is delay due to > Guru. > > > > Venus > > > > > is in nak of Moola and aspected by Shani. There are no > zeroes. > > > > > > > > > > So marriage can be after 24 years. > > > > > > > > > > At the end of 24 years you were running Ve/Ke. The very end > of > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > Next powerful antra is that of Su/Mo. > > > > > > > > > > Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969- > > > Oct-07 > > > > > > > > > > So I feel Moon antra might give u marraige. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Atleast in my opinion you should be married before Su/Ju > antra. > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1971-Jan-06 1971- > > > > Oct-26 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If antra is proper i.e Sun/Mo. Then i will try to narrow it > > > > further. > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Pratap > Kaneria > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth > time is > > > > > rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My > answers > > > > are > > > > > below. > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for > us > > > to > > > > > > verify your birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you confirm the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to > do > > > > with > > > > > > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or > teaching > > > or > > > > > > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government > and > > > > > Shani > > > > > > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from > India > > > as > > > > > well as US. > > > > > > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 > I > > > > worked > > > > > as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high > income > > > and > > > > > expenses. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / > > > work > > > > > > during > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes > > > changed > > > > > jobs > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do > your > > > own > > > > > > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment > ended > > > in > > > > > March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > > > > > > undertaking or started some big project. You also might > have > > > > > > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u > might > > > > have > > > > > > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, > this > > > > > > period is very powerful. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in > > > > getting > > > > > a big drug manufacturing project started. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative > > > > > consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father > health > > > wise > > > > > > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon > > > > mahadasha. > > > > > Mother still lives. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , Pratap > > > Kaneria > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of > the > > > > group. > > > > > > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I > > > volunteer > > > > my > > > > > > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my > > > > marriage > > > > > > date ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > > > > > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your > > > thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u > by > > > > > sharing > > > > > > > their understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can > get > > > > > > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support > your > > > > > > query, > > > > > > > even better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many > things > > > > > will > > > > > > > get cleared. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed > > > approach > > > > > and > > > > > > > exercise, > > > > > > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay > caused > > > by > > > > > > zero > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 > in > > > > > 5:9... > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the > > > > following > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > saturn dealy: > > > > > > > > e.g. > > > > > > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and > say > > > its > > > > > the > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be > giving > > > > delay. > > > > > > as i > > > > > > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in > rasi > > > and > > > > > > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then > the > > > > > delay > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after > > > > satrun > > > > > > > reaches > > > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in > lord > > > of > > > > D > > > > > > or E > > > > > > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the > > > time > > > > it > > > > > > > reaches > > > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would > occur > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > > sector itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord > of > > > A, > > > > B > > > > > > and C > > > > > > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector > after 0 > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring > the > > > age > > > > of > > > > > > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 > and > > > 9 > > > > > are > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are > correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 > > > > > positioning... > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if > jupiter is > > > > in > > > > > > > libra in > > > > > > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or > nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having > > > > exactly > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of > rahu, > > > > > venus > > > > > > > etc > > > > > > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen > from > > > > the > > > > > > > bhava or > > > > > > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus > of > > > > female > > > > > > in > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would > be > > > > > > aspecting > > > > > > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for > > > picking > > > > > the > > > > > > > right > > > > > > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more > thorough ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " kaslearner " > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier > and > > > > > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay > is > > > > > > nullified > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is > > > > running > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could > have > > > > given > > > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered > an > > > > > > > additional > > > > > > > > > 10% > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when > the > > > > native > > > > > > is > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy > marriage > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > chart, > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house > 7. So > > > > sun > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points > in > > > the > > > > > > > > > worksheet. > > > > > > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the > > > > second > > > > > > > antra. > > > > > > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for > the > > > > > wishes > > > > > > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and > List > > > > > > Members, > > > > > > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita > it > > > > will > > > > > be > > > > > > > nice > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the > > > perfect > > > > > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > bala > > > > > > sosale > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter > antra 2 > > > > > > > PDF > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra > and > > > > > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for > getting > > > the > > > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. > Hope > > > I > > > > > > > did > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn > from > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart > please > > > > > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. 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Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Thanks Ash. This is something I have learnt!! , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > > No. Gita answered correctly. > > We do not take lords in navamsa. Krushnaji had told me that. We > only take house. So Sa say in 5th house in navamsa will cause delay. > > For Rasi, say if Ju is aspecting 2nd lord and 7th house then its > delay. Restricted to Rasi. > > We can check the aspect of Ju on lords or 2nd or 7th OF RASI IN > NAVAMSA. > > Same thing like Sa. > > for delay due to Sa, how we take. Sa's aspect on House A,B and C or > their lords in Rasi or navmsa (means lords of Rasi's 2nd, 7th and > 11th). > > Then we check if Sa is delay causing in Navamsa. > > There we restrict it to only house. So sa in 5th house in Navamsa > will cause full delay as it will ASPECT HOUSE A, B AND C. > > In navamsa we do not take lords of the house, but only aspect on > house. > > Even if u carefully study the D-Charts WS, we only take the > Ashtakvarg power for A+B+C only. i.e .top part of the WS. The > bottom part i.e 4:10, aspects etc is not taken. > > So same thing with Ju. > > If Ju aspects LoA and LoB in Rasi or Navamsa but Both then there is > delay. > > If Ju is lord of 1 house means 7th or 2nd in Rasi and aspects the > other LORD in navamsa that is also delay. > > For Navamsa, I would think same principles apply, Ju is lord of 1 > house in navmsa and it aspects the other house (2nd or 7th house in > navamsa), but we dotn take lords of 2nd house in navasma or 7th > house. > > Atleast thats my understanding this far. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Respected Ashji, > > Learnt something new again... could have never thought of it. > > Sir my repeated question again if you can answer please... > > I dont have any chart to give as an example. but giving a scenario. > > Jupiter in A in rasi and in navamsa its situated in B. > > would this also be a dealy of jupiter? > > sorry for being annoying. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gita, > > > Again my mails are not reaching the list. I have replied to > this > > > question. > > > > > > Let me try again. > > > > > > Mo is 2nd lord in Rasi and Ju itself is 7th lord. > > > > > > Ju is aspecting Moon in Navamsa and itself is 7th lord in Rasi. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > , " kaslearner " > > > <kaslearner@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > I am not able to get Jupiter Delay.. Can you explain?? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > Did your father expire in Mo/Sa antra. > > > > > > > > > > Saturn 1979-Mar-20 1980-Oct-19 > > > > > > > > > > If you can confirm this it will be good. > > > > > > > > > > Ok, yes your birth time is slightly rectified. > > > > > > > > > > In any case, its in the ball park. > > > > > > > > > > I shall attempt to time your marriage. > > > > > > > > > > There is no delay due to Shani. There is delay due to > Guru. > > > > Venus > > > > > is in nak of Moola and aspected by Shani. There are no > zeroes. > > > > > > > > > > So marriage can be after 24 years. > > > > > > > > > > At the end of 24 years you were running Ve/Ke. The very end > of > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > Next powerful antra is that of Su/Mo. > > > > > > > > > > Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969- > > > Oct-07 > > > > > > > > > > So I feel Moon antra might give u marraige. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Atleast in my opinion you should be married before Su/Ju > antra. > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1971-Jan-06 1971- > > > > Oct-26 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If antra is proper i.e Sun/Mo. Then i will try to narrow it > > > > further. > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Pratap > Kaneria > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth > time is > > > > > rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My > answers > > > > are > > > > > below. > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for > us > > > to > > > > > > verify your birth time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you confirm the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to > do > > > > with > > > > > > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or > teaching > > > or > > > > > > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government > and > > > > > Shani > > > > > > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from > India > > > as > > > > > well as US. > > > > > > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 > I > > > > worked > > > > > as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high > income > > > and > > > > > expenses. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / > > > work > > > > > > during > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes > > > changed > > > > > jobs > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do > your > > > own > > > > > > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment > ended > > > in > > > > > March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > > > > > > undertaking or started some big project. You also might > have > > > > > > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u > might > > > > have > > > > > > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, > this > > > > > > period is very powerful. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in > > > > getting > > > > > a big drug manufacturing project started. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative > > > > > consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father > health > > > wise > > > > > > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon > > > > mahadasha. > > > > > Mother still lives. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , Pratap > > > Kaneria > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of > the > > > > group. > > > > > > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I > > > volunteer > > > > my > > > > > > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my > > > > marriage > > > > > > date ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > > > > > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your > > > thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u > by > > > > > sharing > > > > > > > their understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can > get > > > > > > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support > your > > > > > > query, > > > > > > > even better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many > things > > > > > will > > > > > > > get cleared. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed > > > approach > > > > > and > > > > > > > exercise, > > > > > > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay > caused > > > by > > > > > > zero > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 > in > > > > > 5:9... > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the > > > > following > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > saturn dealy: > > > > > > > > e.g. > > > > > > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and > say > > > its > > > > > the > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be > giving > > > > delay. > > > > > > as i > > > > > > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in > rasi > > > and > > > > > > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then > the > > > > > delay > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after > > > > satrun > > > > > > > reaches > > > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in > lord > > > of > > > > D > > > > > > or E > > > > > > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the > > > time > > > > it > > > > > > > reaches > > > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would > occur > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > > sector itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord > of > > > A, > > > > B > > > > > > and C > > > > > > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector > after 0 > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring > the > > > age > > > > of > > > > > > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 > and > > > 9 > > > > > are > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are > correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 > > > > > positioning... > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if > jupiter is > > > > in > > > > > > > libra in > > > > > > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or > nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having > > > > exactly > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of > rahu, > > > > > venus > > > > > > > etc > > > > > > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen > from > > > > the > > > > > > > bhava or > > > > > > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus > of > > > > female > > > > > > in > > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would > be > > > > > > aspecting > > > > > > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for > > > picking > > > > > the > > > > > > > right > > > > > > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more > thorough ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " kaslearner " > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier > and > > > > > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay > is > > > > > > nullified > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is > > > > running > > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could > have > > > > given > > > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered > an > > > > > > > additional > > > > > > > > > 10% > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when > the > > > > native > > > > > > is > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy > marriage > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > chart, > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house > 7. So > > > > sun > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points > in > > > the > > > > > > > > > worksheet. > > > > > > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the > > > > second > > > > > > > antra. > > > > > > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for > the > > > > > wishes > > > > > > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and > List > > > > > > Members, > > > > > > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita > it > > > > will > > > > > be > > > > > > > nice > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the > > > perfect > > > > > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , > > > bala > > > > > > sosale > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter > antra 2 > > > > > > > PDF > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra > and > > > > > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for > getting > > > the > > > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. > Hope > > > I > > > > > > > did > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn > from > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart > please > > > > > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this > > > Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in > one > > > > > click > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Bala. 1. Child Birth- Sometime between Apr/ 1995 and Mar/ 1996 2. At present he is running through Jup antara in Jup MD. Jup is weak in 2nd, 5th,8th and 12th house .This indicates the native is worried in connection with the issue of child birth. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra kaslearner <kaslearner wrote: Dear Bala, Conception of the first child could have occured during 2nd sector - Saturn Antra (1994 May 03 - 1995 April 15). Is this correct? , bala sosale <bsosale wrote: > > Dear List members, > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 PDF Saturn and Mars. > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and sector. > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the antra right. I think Harjeet changed > period later. > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I did not miss any other names who > participated. > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from this. > > To continue further analysis on this chart please analyse the following. > > 1. Child birth > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > Regards > Bala > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on FareChase > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Hello Harjeet, Sorry for poking my nose in between your discussion.But my reply may clear my understanding so I have to. When house is concerned yes, it will cause delay due to Jup. Any more question.Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra harjeet_bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: Respected Ashji, Learnt something new again... could have never thought of it. Sir my repeated question again if you can answer please... I dont have any chart to give as an example. but giving a scenario. Jupiter in A in rasi and in navamsa its situated in B. would this also be a dealy of jupiter? sorry for being annoying. thanks/regards harjeet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Gita, > Again my mails are not reaching the list. I have replied to this > question. > > Let me try again. > > Mo is 2nd lord in Rasi and Ju itself is 7th lord. > > Ju is aspecting Moon in Navamsa and itself is 7th lord in Rasi. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > , " kaslearner " > <kaslearner@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > I am not able to get Jupiter Delay.. Can you explain?? > > > > Thanks > > Gita > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > Did your father expire in Mo/Sa antra. > > > > > > Saturn 1979-Mar-20 1980-Oct-19 > > > > > > If you can confirm this it will be good. > > > > > > Ok, yes your birth time is slightly rectified. > > > > > > In any case, its in the ball park. > > > > > > I shall attempt to time your marriage. > > > > > > There is no delay due to Shani. There is delay due to Guru. > > Venus > > > is in nak of Moola and aspected by Shani. There are no zeroes. > > > > > > So marriage can be after 24 years. > > > > > > At the end of 24 years you were running Ve/Ke. The very end of > > it. > > > > > > Next powerful antra is that of Su/Mo. > > > > > > Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969- > Oct-07 > > > > > > So I feel Moon antra might give u marraige. > > > > > > > > > Atleast in my opinion you should be married before Su/Ju antra. > > > > > > Jupiter 1971-Jan-06 1971- > > Oct-26 > > > > > > > > > If antra is proper i.e Sun/Mo. Then i will try to narrow it > > further. > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is > > > rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers > > are > > > below. > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us > to > > > > verify your birth time. > > > > > > > > Can you confirm the following. > > > > > > > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do > > with > > > > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching > or > > > > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and > > > Shani > > > > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > > > > > > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India > as > > > well as US. > > > > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I > > worked > > > as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > > > > > > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income > and > > > expenses. > > > > > > > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / > work > > > > during > > > > > > > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > > > > > > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes > changed > > > jobs > > > > > > > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your > own > > > > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended > in > > > March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > > > > > > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > > > > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > > > > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might > > have > > > > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > > > > period is very powerful. > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in > > getting > > > a big drug manufacturing project started. > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative > > > consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > > > > > > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health > wise > > > > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon > > mahadasha. > > > Mother still lives. > > > > > > > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , Pratap > Kaneria > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the > > group. > > > > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I > volunteer > > my > > > > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > > > > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my > > marriage > > > > date ? > > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > > > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your > thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by > > > sharing > > > > > their understanding. > > > > > > > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > > > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > > > > query, > > > > > even better. > > > > > > > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things > > > will > > > > > get cleared. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed > approach > > > and > > > > > exercise, > > > > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused > by > > > > zero > > > > > is > > > > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in > > > 5:9... > > > > but > > > > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the > > following > > > > about > > > > > > saturn dealy: > > > > > > e.g. > > > > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say > its > > > the > > > > > lord > > > > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving > > delay. > > > > as i > > > > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi > and > > > > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the > > > delay > > > > is > > > > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after > > satrun > > > > > reaches > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord > of > > D > > > > or E > > > > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the > time > > it > > > > > reaches > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur > in > > > the > > > > > 1st > > > > > > sector itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of > A, > > B > > > > and C > > > > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 > > > degree > > > > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the > age > > of > > > > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and > 9 > > > are > > > > > only > > > > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 > > > positioning... > > > > > does > > > > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is > > in > > > > > libra in > > > > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having > > exactly > > > 4 > > > > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, > > > venus > > > > > etc > > > > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from > > the > > > > > bhava or > > > > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of > > female > > > > in > > > > > 5th > > > > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > > > > aspecting > > > > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for > picking > > > the > > > > > right > > > > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " kaslearner " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and > > > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > > > > nullified > > > > > by > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is > > running > > > > Moon > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have > > given > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > > > > additional > > > > > > > 10% > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the > > native > > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage > in > > > the > > > > > chart, > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So > > sun > > > > is > > > > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in > the > > > > > > > worksheet. > > > > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the > > second > > > > > antra. > > > > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the > > > wishes > > > > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > > > > Members, > > > > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it > > will > > > be > > > > > nice > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the > perfect > > > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > , > bala > > > > sosale > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > > > > PDF > > > > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting > the > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope > I > > > > > did > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this > Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one > > > click > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Pratap, Namaskar, Did you marry in 1965 before November month. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote: Dear Ash, Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers are below. ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pratap, Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us to verify your birth time. Can you confirm the following. 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do with soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching or advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and Shani can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as well as US. Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I worked as a consultant. Never worked for Government. 2) Did u face more expenses during Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and expenses. 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / work during Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes changed jobs 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your own undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended in March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big undertaking or started some big project. You also might have travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might have started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this period is very powerful. Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in getting a big drug manufacturing project started. Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health wise also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon mahadasha. Mother still lives. If you can comment on the same it will be good. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , Pratap Kaneria wrote: > > Dear Astrologers, > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage date ? > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing > their understanding. > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your query, > even better. > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will > get cleared. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > wrote: > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and > exercise, > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by zero > is > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... but > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following about > > saturn dealy: > > e.g. > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the > lord > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. as i > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > navamsa. ? > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay is > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > reaches > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D or E > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > reaches > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the > 1st > > sector itself. > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B and C > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are > only > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > does > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > libra in > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus > etc > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > bhava or > > rashis or both? > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female in > 5th > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be aspecting > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > right > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " kaslearner " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is nullified > by > > > lord > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running Moon > > > antra > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > marriage > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > additional > > > 10% > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native is > in > > > Sun > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > chart, > > > I > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun is > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > worksheet. > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > antra. > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > nice > > > to > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > conclusion. > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > , bala sosale > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > PDF > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > antra > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > did > > > not > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > analyse > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > on > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Dear Mr. Mishra, Namaskar, May be I should make it little easier. I got married in 1968. Please if you can pinpoint the month. With Regards, Pratap ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Pratap, Namaskar, Did you marry in 1965 before November month. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Pratap Kaneria wrote: Dear Ash, Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers are below. ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pratap, Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us to verify your birth time. Can you confirm the following. 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do with soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching or advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and Shani can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as well as US. Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I worked as a consultant. Never worked for Government. 2) Did u face more expenses during Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and expenses. 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / work during Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes changed jobs 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your own undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended in March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big undertaking or started some big project. You also might have travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might have started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this period is very powerful. Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in getting a big drug manufacturing project started. Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health wise also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon mahadasha. Mother still lives. If you can comment on the same it will be good. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , Pratap Kaneria wrote: > > Dear Astrologers, > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage date ? > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing > their understanding. > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your query, > even better. > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will > get cleared. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > wrote: > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and > exercise, > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by zero > is > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... but > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following about > > saturn dealy: > > e.g. > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the > lord > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. as i > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > navamsa. ? > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay is > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > reaches > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D or E > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > reaches > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the > 1st > > sector itself. > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B and C > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are > only > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > does > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > libra in > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus > etc > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > bhava or > > rashis or both? > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female in > 5th > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be aspecting > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > right > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " kaslearner " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is nullified > by > > > lord > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running Moon > > > antra > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > marriage > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > additional > > > 10% > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native is > in > > > Sun > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > chart, > > > I > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun is > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > worksheet. > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > antra. > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > nice > > > to > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > conclusion. > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > , bala sosale > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > PDF > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > antra > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > did > > > not > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > analyse > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > on > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Dear Pratap, Namaskar, Was it first week of Mar 1968 ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh mISHRA , Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote: > > Dear Mr. Mishra, > > Namaskar, > > May be I should make it little easier. I got married in 1968. Please if you can pinpoint the month. > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Pratap, Namaskar, > Did you marry in 1965 before November month. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Pratap Kaneria > wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers are below. > > ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us to > verify your birth time. > > Can you confirm the following. > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do with > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching or > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and Shani > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as well as US. > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I worked as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and expenses. > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / work > during > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes changed jobs > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your own > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended in March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might have > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > period is very powerful. > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in getting a big drug manufacturing project started. > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health wise > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon mahadasha. Mother still lives. > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage > date ? > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing > > their understanding. > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > query, > > even better. > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will > > get cleared. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > wrote: > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and > > exercise, > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by > zero > > is > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... > but > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following > about > > > saturn dealy: > > > e.g. > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the > > lord > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. > as i > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay > is > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D > or E > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the > > 1st > > > sector itself. > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B > and C > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are > > only > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > > does > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > > libra in > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus > > etc > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > > bhava or > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female > in > > 5th > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > aspecting > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > > right > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- In , " kaslearner " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > nullified > > by > > > > lord > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running > Moon > > > > antra > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > > marriage > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > additional > > > > 10% > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native > is > > in > > > > Sun > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > > chart, > > > > I > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun > is > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > > worksheet. > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > > antra. > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > Members, > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > > nice > > > > to > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > , bala > sosale > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > PDF > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > > antra > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > > did > > > > not > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > analyse > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > > on > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Dear Pratap, Namaskar, Was it first week of Mar 1968 ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh mISHRA , Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote: > > Dear Mr. Mishra, > > Namaskar, > > May be I should make it little easier. I got married in 1968. Please if you can pinpoint the month. > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Pratap, Namaskar, > Did you marry in 1965 before November month. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Pratap Kaneria > wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers are below. > > ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us to > verify your birth time. > > Can you confirm the following. > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do with > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching or > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and Shani > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as well as US. > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I worked as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and expenses. > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / work > during > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes changed jobs > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your own > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended in March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might have > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > period is very powerful. > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in getting a big drug manufacturing project started. > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health wise > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon mahadasha. Mother still lives. > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage > date ? > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing > > their understanding. > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > query, > > even better. > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will > > get cleared. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > wrote: > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and > > exercise, > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by > zero > > is > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... > but > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following > about > > > saturn dealy: > > > e.g. > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the > > lord > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. > as i > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay > is > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D > or E > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the > > 1st > > > sector itself. > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B > and C > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are > > only > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > > does > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > > libra in > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus > > etc > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > > bhava or > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female > in > > 5th > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > aspecting > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > > right > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- In , " kaslearner " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > nullified > > by > > > > lord > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running > Moon > > > > antra > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > > marriage > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > additional > > > > 10% > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native > is > > in > > > > Sun > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > > chart, > > > > I > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun > is > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > > worksheet. > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > > antra. > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > Members, > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > > nice > > > > to > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > , bala > sosale > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > PDF > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > > antra > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > > did > > > > not > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > analyse > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > > on > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Dear Gita and Ramesh, Here is the answer Birth date of daughter is 24.06.1993. Native is a dentist and has his own clinic in Pune and diagnosed with Pancreatic Cancer and had last two unsuccessful attempts to remove the tumour as of last week. Regards Bala Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Dear Pratap, What was your original time of birth recorded? Can you share that with us please. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote: > > Dear Mr. Mishra, > > Namaskar, > > May be I should make it little easier. I got married in 1968. Please if you can pinpoint the month. > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Pratap, Namaskar, > Did you marry in 1965 before November month. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Pratap Kaneria > wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers are below. > > ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us to > verify your birth time. > > Can you confirm the following. > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do with > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching or > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and Shani > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as well as US. > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I worked as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and expenses. > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / work > during > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes changed jobs > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your own > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended in March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might have > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > period is very powerful. > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in getting a big drug manufacturing project started. > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health wise > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon mahadasha. Mother still lives. > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage > date ? > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing > > their understanding. > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > query, > > even better. > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will > > get cleared. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > wrote: > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and > > exercise, > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by > zero > > is > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... > but > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following > about > > > saturn dealy: > > > e.g. > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the > > lord > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. > as i > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay > is > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D > or E > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the > > 1st > > > sector itself. > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B > and C > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are > > only > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > > does > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > > libra in > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus > > etc > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > > bhava or > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female > in > > 5th > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > aspecting > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > > right > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- In , " kaslearner " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > nullified > > by > > > > lord > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running > Moon > > > > antra > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > > marriage > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > additional > > > > 10% > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native > is > > in > > > > Sun > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > > chart, > > > > I > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun > is > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > > worksheet. > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > > antra. > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > Members, > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > > nice > > > > to > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > , bala > sosale > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > PDF > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > > antra > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > > did > > > > not > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > analyse > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > > on > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Dear Mr. Misra, Sorry. No. Wasn't in March. With Regards, Pratap aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Pratap, Namaskar, Was it first week of Mar 1968 ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh mISHRA , Pratap Kaneria wrote: > > Dear Mr. Mishra, > > Namaskar, > > May be I should make it little easier. I got married in 1968. Please if you can pinpoint the month. > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > > ramesh mishra wrote: > Dear Pratap, Namaskar, > Did you marry in 1965 before November month. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Pratap Kaneria > wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers are below. > > ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us to > verify your birth time. > > Can you confirm the following. > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do with > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching or > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and Shani > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as well as US. > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I worked as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and expenses. > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / work > during > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes changed jobs > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your own > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended in March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might have > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > period is very powerful. > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in getting a big drug manufacturing project started. > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health wise > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon mahadasha. Mother still lives. > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage > date ? > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing > > their understanding. > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > query, > > even better. > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will > > get cleared. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > wrote: > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and > > exercise, > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by > zero > > is > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... > but > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following > about > > > saturn dealy: > > > e.g. > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the > > lord > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. > as i > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay > is > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D > or E > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the > > 1st > > > sector itself. > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B > and C > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are > > only > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > > does > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > > libra in > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus > > etc > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > > bhava or > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female > in > > 5th > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > aspecting > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > > right > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- In , " kaslearner " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > nullified > > by > > > > lord > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running > Moon > > > > antra > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > > marriage > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > additional > > > > 10% > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native > is > > in > > > > Sun > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > > chart, > > > > I > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun > is > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > > worksheet. > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > > antra. > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > Members, > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > > nice > > > > to > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > , bala > sosale > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > PDF > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > > antra > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > > did > > > > not > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > analyse > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > > on > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Dear Ash, There is no official record of my birthtime. It is approximately as my mother remembers. It was definitely in late evening. Then it was rectified by a few eminent astrologers. One doubt I have is about the time adjustment due to World War II during my birthdate. Now that you have raised the question, I like to add that my physical characteristics are much more in line with Taurus ascendant than Gemini. With Regards, Pratap ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pratap, What was your original time of birth recorded? Can you share that with us please. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , Pratap Kaneria wrote: > > Dear Mr. Mishra, > > Namaskar, > > May be I should make it little easier. I got married in 1968. Please if you can pinpoint the month. > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > > ramesh mishra wrote: > Dear Pratap, Namaskar, > Did you marry in 1965 before November month. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Pratap Kaneria > wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers are below. > > ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us to > verify your birth time. > > Can you confirm the following. > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do with > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching or > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and Shani > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as well as US. > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I worked as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and expenses. > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / work > during > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes changed jobs > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your own > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended in March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might have > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > period is very powerful. > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in getting a big drug manufacturing project started. > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health wise > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon mahadasha. Mother still lives. > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage > date ? > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing > > their understanding. > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > query, > > even better. > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will > > get cleared. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > wrote: > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and > > exercise, > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by > zero > > is > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... > but > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following > about > > > saturn dealy: > > > e.g. > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the > > lord > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. > as i > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay > is > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D > or E > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the > > 1st > > > sector itself. > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B > and C > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are > > only > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > > does > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > > libra in > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus > > etc > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > > bhava or > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female > in > > 5th > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > aspecting > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > > right > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- In , " kaslearner " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > nullified > > by > > > > lord > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running > Moon > > > > antra > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > > marriage > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > additional > > > > 10% > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native > is > > in > > > > Sun > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > > chart, > > > > I > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun > is > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > > worksheet. > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > > antra. > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > Members, > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > > nice > > > > to > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > , bala > sosale > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > PDF > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > > antra > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > > did > > > > not > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > analyse > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > > on > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Dear Pratap, With the events give so far it seems to be in the ball park, however, the correct way would be to give many events of your life and in that way a person would be able to use the system. In any case, Sun antra cant give u marriage, atleast not a happy marriage. Moon can give u marriage. As per this data your marriage might have happened after 24 years. Either Ketu gave in the very end means after your 24th birthday i.e after nov 28th 1968. Ketu 1967-Oct-20 1968-Dec-19 So it means u have 3 pdfs and only 2 falling in proper between 18th nov and 19th dec. Mars is weak for 7th. So that leaves Ju/Ketu. So 16th Dec thru 19th Dec. Mars and Saturn 20-Nov 2-Dec Mars and Mercury 3-Dec 15-Dec Jupiter and Ketu 16-Dec 28-Dec In my opinion, Moon can give marriage as its the first strong antra after delay period is over. Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969-Oct-07 You said marriage was in 1968. So depending on the month, the difference can be anywhere between 1 year 4 months. Now your fathers death is coming in 8 months range. Even the start of your new venture was falling just in the prior antra. But that was 1 month off i.e. only going by end of one antra and start of the other. I took all those factors in mind befor sayin that your birth time is in ball park. In any case, without proper time, I cant personally judge the month but if this is the lagna then Ju and Sa and Venus pdfs will be very powrful periods i.e. if u start to note down events , many events will start to happen when sun transits these signs and nakshtras. A good exercise. Cheers !!! Ash , Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > There is no official record of my birthtime. It is approximately as my mother remembers. It was definitely in late evening. Then it was rectified by a few eminent astrologers. One doubt I have is about the time adjustment due to World War II during my birthdate. Now that you have raised the question, I like to add that my physical characteristics are much more in line with Taurus ascendant than Gemini. > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > What was your original time of birth recorded? Can you share that > with us please. > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Mishra, > > > > Namaskar, > > > > May be I should make it little easier. I got married in 1968. > Please if you can pinpoint the month. > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > > > ramesh mishra wrote: > > Dear Pratap, Namaskar, > > Did you marry in 1965 before November month. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is > rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers are > below. > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Pratap, > > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us to > > verify your birth time. > > > > Can you confirm the following. > > > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do with > > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching or > > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and > Shani > > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as > well as US. > > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I worked > as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and > expenses. > > > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / work > > during > > > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes changed > jobs > > > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your own > > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended in > March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might have > > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > > period is very powerful. > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in getting > a big drug manufacturing project started. > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative > consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health wise > > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon mahadasha. > Mother still lives. > > > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > > > Thanks, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. > > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my > > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage > > date ? > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by > sharing > > > their understanding. > > > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > > query, > > > even better. > > > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things > will > > > get cleared. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > --- In > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach > and > > > exercise, > > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by > > zero > > > is > > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in > 5:9... > > but > > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following > > about > > > > saturn dealy: > > > > e.g. > > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its > the > > > lord > > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. > > as i > > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the > delay > > is > > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > > > reaches > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D > > or E > > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > > > reaches > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in > the > > > 1st > > > > sector itself. > > > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B > > and C > > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 > degree > > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 > are > > > only > > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 > positioning... > > > does > > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > > > libra in > > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly > 4 > > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, > venus > > > etc > > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > > > bhava or > > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female > > in > > > 5th > > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > > aspecting > > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking > the > > > right > > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " kaslearner " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > > nullified > > > by > > > > > lord > > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running > > Moon > > > > > antra > > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > > > marriage > > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > > additional > > > > > 10% > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native > > is > > > in > > > > > Sun > > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in > the > > > chart, > > > > > I > > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun > > is > > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > > > worksheet. > > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > > > antra. > > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the > wishes > > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > > Members, > > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will > be > > > nice > > > > > to > > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > , bala > > sosale > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > > PDF > > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > > > antra > > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > > > did > > > > > not > > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one > click > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 thanks very much rameshji. i got it. , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Hello Harjeet, Sorry for poking my nose in between your discussion.But my reply may clear my understanding so I have to. > When house is concerned yes, it will cause delay due to Jup. > Any more question.Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > harjeet_bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > Respected Ashji, > Learnt something new again... could have never thought of it. > Sir my repeated question again if you can answer please... > I dont have any chart to give as an example. but giving a scenario. > Jupiter in A in rasi and in navamsa its situated in B. > would this also be a dealy of jupiter? > sorry for being annoying. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Gita, > > Again my mails are not reaching the list. I have replied to this > > question. > > > > Let me try again. > > > > Mo is 2nd lord in Rasi and Ju itself is 7th lord. > > > > Ju is aspecting Moon in Navamsa and itself is 7th lord in Rasi. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > , " kaslearner " > > <kaslearner@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > I am not able to get Jupiter Delay.. Can you explain?? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Gita > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > Did your father expire in Mo/Sa antra. > > > > > > > > Saturn 1979-Mar-20 1980-Oct-19 > > > > > > > > If you can confirm this it will be good. > > > > > > > > Ok, yes your birth time is slightly rectified. > > > > > > > > In any case, its in the ball park. > > > > > > > > I shall attempt to time your marriage. > > > > > > > > There is no delay due to Shani. There is delay due to Guru. > > > Venus > > > > is in nak of Moola and aspected by Shani. There are no zeroes. > > > > > > > > So marriage can be after 24 years. > > > > > > > > At the end of 24 years you were running Ve/Ke. The very end of > > > it. > > > > > > > > Next powerful antra is that of Su/Mo. > > > > > > > > Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969- > > Oct-07 > > > > > > > > So I feel Moon antra might give u marraige. > > > > > > > > > > > > Atleast in my opinion you should be married before Su/Ju antra. > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1971-Jan-06 1971- > > > Oct-26 > > > > > > > > > > > > If antra is proper i.e Sun/Mo. Then i will try to narrow it > > > further. > > > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is > > > > rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers > > > are > > > > below. > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us > > to > > > > > verify your birth time. > > > > > > > > > > Can you confirm the following. > > > > > > > > > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do > > > with > > > > > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching > > or > > > > > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and > > > > Shani > > > > > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > > > > > > > > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India > > as > > > > well as US. > > > > > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I > > > worked > > > > as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > > > > > > > > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income > > and > > > > expenses. > > > > > > > > > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / > > work > > > > > during > > > > > > > > > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > > > > > > > > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes > > changed > > > > jobs > > > > > > > > > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your > > own > > > > > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended > > in > > > > March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > > > > > > > > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > > > > > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > > > > > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might > > > have > > > > > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > > > > > period is very powerful. > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in > > > getting > > > > a big drug manufacturing project started. > > > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative > > > > consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > > > > > > > > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health > > wise > > > > > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon > > > mahadasha. > > > > Mother still lives. > > > > > > > > > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , Pratap > > Kaneria > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the > > > group. > > > > > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I > > volunteer > > > my > > > > > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my > > > marriage > > > > > date ? > > > > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > > > > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your > > thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by > > > > sharing > > > > > > their understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > > > > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > > > > > query, > > > > > > even better. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things > > > > will > > > > > > get cleared. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed > > approach > > > > and > > > > > > exercise, > > > > > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused > > by > > > > > zero > > > > > > is > > > > > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in > > > > 5:9... > > > > > but > > > > > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the > > > following > > > > > about > > > > > > > saturn dealy: > > > > > > > e.g. > > > > > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say > > its > > > > the > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving > > > delay. > > > > > as i > > > > > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi > > and > > > > > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the > > > > delay > > > > > is > > > > > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after > > > satrun > > > > > > reaches > > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord > > of > > > D > > > > > or E > > > > > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the > > time > > > it > > > > > > reaches > > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur > > in > > > > the > > > > > > 1st > > > > > > > sector itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of > > A, > > > B > > > > > and C > > > > > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 > > > > degree > > > > > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the > > age > > > of > > > > > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and > > 9 > > > > are > > > > > > only > > > > > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 > > > > positioning... > > > > > > does > > > > > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is > > > in > > > > > > libra in > > > > > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having > > > exactly > > > > 4 > > > > > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, > > > > venus > > > > > > etc > > > > > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from > > > the > > > > > > bhava or > > > > > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of > > > female > > > > > in > > > > > > 5th > > > > > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > > > > > aspecting > > > > > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for > > picking > > > > the > > > > > > right > > > > > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " kaslearner " > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and > > > > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > > > > > nullified > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is > > > running > > > > > Moon > > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have > > > given > > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > > > > > additional > > > > > > > > 10% > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the > > > native > > > > > is > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage > > in > > > > the > > > > > > chart, > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So > > > sun > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for > > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in > > the > > > > > > > > worksheet. > > > > > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the > > > second > > > > > > antra. > > > > > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the > > > > wishes > > > > > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > > > > > Members, > > > > > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it > > > will > > > > be > > > > > > nice > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the > > perfect > > > > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , > > bala > > > > > sosale > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > > > > > PDF > > > > > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting > > the > > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope > > I > > > > > > did > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this > > Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one > > > > click > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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