Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Dear Pratap, Ok. Check all the events with birth time of 20:45. The navamsa rising is Aquarius. With that your Marriage matches. With time of 20:38 as given, I was correct and Krushnaji has confirmed that. If your time is 20:38 them marriage would have happened in Moon antra, but with 20:45 everything changes. You marriage comes in line as delay is overridden. Check navamsa lagna and 9th lord of navamsa. They are in nav-pancham. So blessing of Guru. Ketu is SD to Guru, who is in House D with 6 bindus and can give marriage. rest of the events are in CAPS. REFER BELOW. , Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > My marriage date is July 21, 1968. ASH : EXPLAINED ABOVE WITH RECTIFIED TIME. > > I can give a couple more concrete events if that will help. > > 1. I came to US in Jan 1967. ASH : VE/ME antra. ME IS POWERFUL FOR ALL 12 HOUSES EXCEPT 5TH. > 2. I started my first full time job in Jan 1969. ASH : SUN/SUN. SUN IS NK FOR 10TH. SUN IS SD TO KARAK OF 6TH AND SD TO KARAK OF 11TH ALSO. SUN IS LOD FOR 6TH AS B. > 3. I started my second full time job on May 16, 1976. ASH: VERY END OF MARS ANTRA, MARS IS LOE FOR 6TH. > 4. I bought my first home in June 1974. ASH : SU/VE. SUN IS SD TO KARAK FOR 4TH, MARS. VENUS IS NSD TO SA MOST POWRFUL FOR 4TH AND VE ITSELF IS 2ND HIGHEST. > 5. I got my bachelor's degree in engineering in June 1966. ASH: VE/ME. ME IS LOWEST FOR 5TH. ME IS SD TO JUPITER WHO IS LOE BUT IF U GET THE DEGREE, ITS SHOWING SOME PROBLEMS. > 6. I got my Master's degree in engineering in Jan 1968. ASH: VE/KE. KE IS SD TO JU AND SU. BOTH HAVE GOOD POWER FOR 9TH. > 7. I dropped out of PhD program in May 1968. > > Anyway thanks for your efforts, > > With Regards, > > Pratap > CHEERS !!! ASH > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > With the events give so far it seems to be in the ball park, > however, the correct way would be to give many events of your life > and in that way a person would be able to use the system. > > In any case, Sun antra cant give u marriage, atleast not a happy > marriage. Moon can give u marriage. As per this data your marriage > might have happened after 24 years. > > Either Ketu gave in the very end means after your 24th birthday i.e > after nov 28th 1968. > > Ketu 1967-Oct-20 1968-Dec-19 > > > So it means u have 3 pdfs and only 2 falling in proper between 18th > nov and 19th dec. Mars is weak for 7th. So that leaves Ju/Ketu. So > 16th Dec thru 19th Dec. > > Mars and Saturn 20-Nov 2-Dec > Mars and Mercury 3-Dec 15-Dec > Jupiter and Ketu 16-Dec 28-Dec > > In my opinion, Moon can give marriage as its the first strong antra > after delay period is over. > > Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969-Oct-07 > > You said marriage was in 1968. So depending on the month, the > difference can be anywhere between 1 year 4 months. > > Now your fathers death is coming in 8 months range. > > Even the start of your new venture was falling just in the prior > antra. But that was 1 month off i.e. only going by end of one antra > and start of the other. > > I took all those factors in mind befor sayin that your birth time is > in ball park. > > In any case, without proper time, I cant personally judge the month > but if this is the lagna then Ju and Sa and Venus pdfs will be very > powrful periods i.e. if u start to note down events , many events > will start to happen when sun transits these signs and nakshtras. > > A good exercise. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > There is no official record of my birthtime. It is approximately > as my mother remembers. It was definitely in late evening. Then it > was rectified by a few eminent astrologers. One doubt I have is > about the time adjustment due to World War II during my birthdate. > Now that you have raised the question, I like to add that my > physical characteristics are much more in line with Taurus ascendant > than Gemini. > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Pratap, > > What was your original time of birth recorded? Can you share that > > with us please. > > Thanks, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Mishra, > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > May be I should make it little easier. I got married in 1968. > > Please if you can pinpoint the month. > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra wrote: > > > Dear Pratap, Namaskar, > > > Did you marry in 1965 before November month. > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Pratap Kaneria > > > wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is > > rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers > are > > below. > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Pratap, > > > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us to > > > verify your birth time. > > > > > > Can you confirm the following. > > > > > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do > with > > > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching or > > > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and > > Shani > > > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > > > > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as > > well as US. > > > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I worked > > as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > > > > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and > > expenses. > > > > > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / work > > > during > > > > > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > > > > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes changed > > jobs > > > > > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your own > > > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended in > > March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > > > > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > > > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > > > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might > have > > > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > > > period is very powerful. > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in > getting > > a big drug manufacturing project started. > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative > > consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > > > > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health wise > > > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon > mahadasha. > > Mother still lives. > > > > > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the > group. > > > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer > my > > > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my > marriage > > > date ? > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > > > > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by > > sharing > > > > their understanding. > > > > > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > > > query, > > > > even better. > > > > > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things > > will > > > > get cleared. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach > > and > > > > exercise, > > > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by > > > zero > > > > is > > > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in > > 5:9... > > > but > > > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the > following > > > about > > > > > saturn dealy: > > > > > e.g. > > > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its > > the > > > > lord > > > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving > delay. > > > as i > > > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > > > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the > > delay > > > is > > > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after > satrun > > > > reaches > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of > D > > > or E > > > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time > it > > > > reaches > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in > > the > > > > 1st > > > > > sector itself. > > > > > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, > B > > > and C > > > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 > > degree > > > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age > of > > > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 > > are > > > > only > > > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 > > positioning... > > > > does > > > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is > in > > > > libra in > > > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having > exactly > > 4 > > > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, > > venus > > > > etc > > > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from > the > > > > bhava or > > > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of > female > > > in > > > > 5th > > > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > > > aspecting > > > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking > > the > > > > right > > > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " kaslearner " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and > > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > > > nullified > > > > by > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is > running > > > Moon > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have > given > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > > > additional > > > > > > 10% > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the > native > > > is > > > > in > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in > > the > > > > chart, > > > > > > I > > > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So > sun > > > is > > > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > > > > worksheet. > > > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the > second > > > > antra. > > > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the > > wishes > > > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > > > Members, > > > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it > will > > be > > > > nice > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , bala > > > sosale > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > > > PDF > > > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > > > > did > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > > > 2. 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Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Dear Ash, Thanks for explaining us about the rectification of Pratap's chart and other events. And also happy to see all the new comers trying on the chart. They are doing so good. Many Thanks for all the guidance from you. Regards Bala New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Yes Bala, Indeed its a great effort, patience and time put by Ashji... and the support and guidance from Manoshiji and all the other list members. thanks very much all of you in encouraging and helping to learn the system. regards harjeet , bala sosale <bsosale wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for explaining us about the rectification of Pratap's chart and other events. > > And also happy to see all the new comers trying on the chart. They are doing so good. > > Many Thanks for all the guidance from you. > > Regards > Bala > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Dear Ash, Thanks for your valuable analysis. I can not say that I understand everything but I am going to print all lessions and start studying seriously. With the rectified birth time, Rahu-Sun dasa should start in this coming July. Now that you have studied my chart in detail, would you be kind enough to share your thoughts on what kind of events I should look forward to during Rahu-Sun dasa. With Regards, Pratap ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pratap, Ok. Check all the events with birth time of 20:45. The navamsa rising is Aquarius. With that your Marriage matches. With time of 20:38 as given, I was correct and Krushnaji has confirmed that. If your time is 20:38 them marriage would have happened in Moon antra, but with 20:45 everything changes. You marriage comes in line as delay is overridden. Check navamsa lagna and 9th lord of navamsa. They are in nav-pancham. So blessing of Guru. Ketu is SD to Guru, who is in House D with 6 bindus and can give marriage. rest of the events are in CAPS. REFER BELOW. , Pratap Kaneria wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > My marriage date is July 21, 1968. ASH : EXPLAINED ABOVE WITH RECTIFIED TIME. > > I can give a couple more concrete events if that will help. > > 1. I came to US in Jan 1967. ASH : VE/ME antra. ME IS POWERFUL FOR ALL 12 HOUSES EXCEPT 5TH. > 2. I started my first full time job in Jan 1969. ASH : SUN/SUN. SUN IS NK FOR 10TH. SUN IS SD TO KARAK OF 6TH AND SD TO KARAK OF 11TH ALSO. SUN IS LOD FOR 6TH AS B. > 3. I started my second full time job on May 16, 1976. ASH: VERY END OF MARS ANTRA, MARS IS LOE FOR 6TH. > 4. I bought my first home in June 1974. ASH : SU/VE. SUN IS SD TO KARAK FOR 4TH, MARS. VENUS IS NSD TO SA MOST POWRFUL FOR 4TH AND VE ITSELF IS 2ND HIGHEST. > 5. I got my bachelor's degree in engineering in June 1966. ASH: VE/ME. ME IS LOWEST FOR 5TH. ME IS SD TO JUPITER WHO IS LOE BUT IF U GET THE DEGREE, ITS SHOWING SOME PROBLEMS. > 6. I got my Master's degree in engineering in Jan 1968. ASH: VE/KE. KE IS SD TO JU AND SU. BOTH HAVE GOOD POWER FOR 9TH. > 7. I dropped out of PhD program in May 1968. > > Anyway thanks for your efforts, > > With Regards, > > Pratap > CHEERS !!! ASH > > > ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > With the events give so far it seems to be in the ball park, > however, the correct way would be to give many events of your life > and in that way a person would be able to use the system. > > In any case, Sun antra cant give u marriage, atleast not a happy > marriage. Moon can give u marriage. As per this data your marriage > might have happened after 24 years. > > Either Ketu gave in the very end means after your 24th birthday i.e > after nov 28th 1968. > > Ketu 1967-Oct-20 1968-Dec-19 > > > So it means u have 3 pdfs and only 2 falling in proper between 18th > nov and 19th dec. Mars is weak for 7th. So that leaves Ju/Ketu. So > 16th Dec thru 19th Dec. > > Mars and Saturn 20-Nov 2-Dec > Mars and Mercury 3-Dec 15-Dec > Jupiter and Ketu 16-Dec 28-Dec > > In my opinion, Moon can give marriage as its the first strong antra > after delay period is over. > > Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969-Oct-07 > > You said marriage was in 1968. So depending on the month, the > difference can be anywhere between 1 year 4 months. > > Now your fathers death is coming in 8 months range. > > Even the start of your new venture was falling just in the prior > antra. But that was 1 month off i.e. only going by end of one antra > and start of the other. > > I took all those factors in mind befor sayin that your birth time is > in ball park. > > In any case, without proper time, I cant personally judge the month > but if this is the lagna then Ju and Sa and Venus pdfs will be very > powrful periods i.e. if u start to note down events , many events > will start to happen when sun transits these signs and nakshtras. > > A good exercise. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > There is no official record of my birthtime. It is approximately > as my mother remembers. It was definitely in late evening. Then it > was rectified by a few eminent astrologers. One doubt I have is > about the time adjustment due to World War II during my birthdate. > Now that you have raised the question, I like to add that my > physical characteristics are much more in line with Taurus ascendant > than Gemini. > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Pratap, > > What was your original time of birth recorded? Can you share that > > with us please. > > Thanks, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr. Mishra, > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > May be I should make it little easier. I got married in 1968. > > Please if you can pinpoint the month. > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra wrote: > > > Dear Pratap, Namaskar, > > > Did you marry in 1965 before November month. > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Pratap Kaneria > > > wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is > > rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers > are > > below. > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Pratap, > > > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us to > > > verify your birth time. > > > > > > Can you confirm the following. > > > > > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do > with > > > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching or > > > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and > > Shani > > > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > > > > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as > > well as US. > > > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I worked > > as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > > > > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and > > expenses. > > > > > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / work > > > during > > > > > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > > > > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes changed > > jobs > > > > > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your own > > > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended in > > March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > > > > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > > > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > > > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might > have > > > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > > > period is very powerful. > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in > getting > > a big drug manufacturing project started. > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative > > consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > > > > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health wise > > > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon > mahadasha. > > Mother still lives. > > > > > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the > group. > > > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer > my > > > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my > marriage > > > date ? > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > > > > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by > > sharing > > > > their understanding. > > > > > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > > > query, > > > > even better. > > > > > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things > > will > > > > get cleared. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach > > and > > > > exercise, > > > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by > > > zero > > > > is > > > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in > > 5:9... > > > but > > > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the > following > > > about > > > > > saturn dealy: > > > > > e.g. > > > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its > > the > > > > lord > > > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving > delay. > > > as i > > > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > > > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the > > delay > > > is > > > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after > satrun > > > > reaches > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of > D > > > or E > > > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time > it > > > > reaches > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in > > the > > > > 1st > > > > > sector itself. > > > > > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, > B > > > and C > > > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 > > degree > > > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age > of > > > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 > > are > > > > only > > > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 > > positioning... > > > > does > > > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is > in > > > > libra in > > > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having > exactly > > 4 > > > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, > > venus > > > > etc > > > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from > the > > > > bhava or > > > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of > female > > > in > > > > 5th > > > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > > > aspecting > > > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking > > the > > > > right > > > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " kaslearner " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and > > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > > > nullified > > > > by > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is > running > > > Moon > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have > given > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > > > additional > > > > > > 10% > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the > native > > > is > > > > in > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in > > the > > > > chart, > > > > > > I > > > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So > sun > > > is > > > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > > > > worksheet. > > > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the > second > > > > antra. > > > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the > > wishes > > > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > > > Members, > > > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it > will > > be > > > > nice > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , bala > > > sosale > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > > > PDF > > > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > > > > did > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one > > click > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Dear Pratap, Sun has more points in 12th than 11th. At the same time its LoD and LoE for 6th and 10th. So its good for job however you will experience more expense. In moon antra it will be of 2nd lord so more worries... but at the same time your income will be more than expense. Yes, u read the lessons and the analysis slowly and things will start to get clear. Good luck, Cheers !!! Ash , Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for your valuable analysis. I can not say that I understand everything but I am going to print all lessions and start studying seriously. > > With the rectified birth time, Rahu-Sun dasa should start in this coming July. Now that you have studied my chart in detail, would you be kind enough to share your thoughts on what kind of events I should look forward to during Rahu-Sun dasa. > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > Ok. Check all the events with birth time of 20:45. The navamsa > rising is Aquarius. > > With that your Marriage matches. With time of 20:38 as given, I was > correct and Krushnaji has confirmed that. If your time is 20:38 > them marriage would have happened in Moon antra, but with 20:45 > everything changes. You marriage comes in line as delay is > overridden. Check navamsa lagna and 9th lord of navamsa. They are > in nav-pancham. So blessing of Guru. > > Ketu is SD to Guru, who is in House D with 6 bindus and can give > marriage. > > rest of the events are in CAPS. REFER BELOW. > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > My marriage date is July 21, 1968. > > ASH : EXPLAINED ABOVE WITH RECTIFIED TIME. > > > > I can give a couple more concrete events if that will help. > > > > 1. I came to US in Jan 1967. > > ASH : VE/ME antra. ME IS POWERFUL FOR ALL 12 HOUSES EXCEPT 5TH. > > > 2. I started my first full time job in Jan 1969. > > ASH : SUN/SUN. SUN IS NK FOR 10TH. SUN IS SD TO KARAK OF 6TH AND > SD TO KARAK OF 11TH ALSO. SUN IS LOD FOR 6TH AS B. > > > 3. I started my second full time job on May 16, 1976. > > ASH: VERY END OF MARS ANTRA, MARS IS LOE FOR 6TH. > > > 4. I bought my first home in June 1974. > > ASH : SU/VE. SUN IS SD TO KARAK FOR 4TH, MARS. VENUS IS NSD TO SA > MOST POWRFUL FOR 4TH AND VE ITSELF IS 2ND HIGHEST. > > > 5. I got my bachelor's degree in engineering in June 1966. > > ASH: VE/ME. ME IS LOWEST FOR 5TH. ME IS SD TO JUPITER WHO IS LOE > BUT IF U GET THE DEGREE, ITS SHOWING SOME PROBLEMS. > > > 6. I got my Master's degree in engineering in Jan 1968. > > ASH: VE/KE. KE IS SD TO JU AND SU. BOTH HAVE GOOD POWER FOR 9TH. > > > 7. I dropped out of PhD program in May 1968. > > > > Anyway thanks for your efforts, > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > CHEERS !!! > ASH > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Pratap, > > With the events give so far it seems to be in the ball park, > > however, the correct way would be to give many events of your life > > and in that way a person would be able to use the system. > > > > In any case, Sun antra cant give u marriage, atleast not a happy > > marriage. Moon can give u marriage. As per this data your marriage > > might have happened after 24 years. > > > > Either Ketu gave in the very end means after your 24th birthday > i.e > > after nov 28th 1968. > > > > Ketu 1967-Oct-20 1968-Dec-19 > > > > > > So it means u have 3 pdfs and only 2 falling in proper between > 18th > > nov and 19th dec. Mars is weak for 7th. So that leaves Ju/Ketu. So > > 16th Dec thru 19th Dec. > > > > Mars and Saturn 20-Nov 2-Dec > > Mars and Mercury 3-Dec 15-Dec > > Jupiter and Ketu 16-Dec 28-Dec > > > > In my opinion, Moon can give marriage as its the first strong > antra > > after delay period is over. > > > > Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969-Oct-07 > > > > You said marriage was in 1968. So depending on the month, the > > difference can be anywhere between 1 year 4 months. > > > > Now your fathers death is coming in 8 months range. > > > > Even the start of your new venture was falling just in the prior > > antra. But that was 1 month off i.e. only going by end of one > antra > > and start of the other. > > > > I took all those factors in mind befor sayin that your birth time > is > > in ball park. > > > > In any case, without proper time, I cant personally judge the > month > > but if this is the lagna then Ju and Sa and Venus pdfs will be > very > > powrful periods i.e. if u start to note down events , many events > > will start to happen when sun transits these signs and nakshtras. > > > > A good exercise. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > There is no official record of my birthtime. It is approximately > > as my mother remembers. It was definitely in late evening. Then it > > was rectified by a few eminent astrologers. One doubt I have is > > about the time adjustment due to World War II during my birthdate. > > Now that you have raised the question, I like to add that my > > physical characteristics are much more in line with Taurus > ascendant > > than Gemini. > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Pratap, > > > What was your original time of birth recorded? Can you share > that > > > with us please. > > > Thanks, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Mishra, > > > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > > May be I should make it little easier. I got married in 1968. > > > Please if you can pinpoint the month. > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, Namaskar, > > > > Did you marry in 1965 before November month. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Pratap Kaneria > > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is > > > rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers > > are > > > below. > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us > to > > > > verify your birth time. > > > > > > > > Can you confirm the following. > > > > > > > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do > > with > > > > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching > or > > > > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and > > > Shani > > > > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > > > > > > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as > > > well as US. > > > > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I > worked > > > as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > > > > > > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and > > > expenses. > > > > > > > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / > work > > > > during > > > > > > > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > > > > > > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes > changed > > > jobs > > > > > > > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your > own > > > > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended > in > > > March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > > > > > > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > > > > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > > > > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might > > have > > > > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > > > > period is very powerful. > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in > > getting > > > a big drug manufacturing project started. > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative > > > consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > > > > > > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health > wise > > > > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon > > mahadasha. > > > Mother still lives. > > > > > > > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , Pratap > Kaneria > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the > > group. > > > > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I > volunteer > > my > > > > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > > > > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my > > marriage > > > > date ? > > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > > > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your > thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by > > > sharing > > > > > their understanding. > > > > > > > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > > > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > > > > query, > > > > > even better. > > > > > > > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things > > > will > > > > > get cleared. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed > approach > > > and > > > > > exercise, > > > > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused > by > > > > zero > > > > > is > > > > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in > > > 5:9... > > > > but > > > > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the > > following > > > > about > > > > > > saturn dealy: > > > > > > e.g. > > > > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say > its > > > the > > > > > lord > > > > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving > > delay. > > > > as i > > > > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi > and > > > > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the > > > delay > > > > is > > > > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after > > satrun > > > > > reaches > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord > of > > D > > > > or E > > > > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the > time > > it > > > > > reaches > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur > in > > > the > > > > > 1st > > > > > > sector itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of > A, > > B > > > > and C > > > > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 > > > degree > > > > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the > age > > of > > > > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and > 9 > > > are > > > > > only > > > > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 > > > positioning... > > > > > does > > > > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is > > in > > > > > libra in > > > > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having > > exactly > > > 4 > > > > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, > > > venus > > > > > etc > > > > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from > > the > > > > > bhava or > > > > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of > > female > > > > in > > > > > 5th > > > > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > > > > aspecting > > > > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for > picking > > > the > > > > > right > > > > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " kaslearner " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and > > > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > > > > nullified > > > > > by > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is > > running > > > > Moon > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have > > given > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > > > > additional > > > > > > > 10% > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the > > native > > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage > in > > > the > > > > > chart, > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So > > sun > > > > is > > > > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in > the > > > > > > > worksheet. > > > > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the > > second > > > > > antra. > > > > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the > > > wishes > > > > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > > > > Members, > > > > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it > > will > > > be > > > > > nice > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the > perfect > > > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > , > bala > > > > sosale > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > > > > PDF > > > > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting > the > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope > I > > > > > did > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this > Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one > > > click > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 Dear Ash, Thanks. With the rectified time, you have given me a too good a navamsa chart. Going by traditional basics, there are four exalted planets in navamsa, Su, Mo, Ra and Ke. Lagna lord Sa is in 2nd house and there is parivartana yoga between 12th and second lord. I don't know if I deserve this but I will take it. With Regards, Pratap ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pratap, Sun has more points in 12th than 11th. At the same time its LoD and LoE for 6th and 10th. So its good for job however you will experience more expense. In moon antra it will be of 2nd lord so more worries... but at the same time your income will be more than expense. Yes, u read the lessons and the analysis slowly and things will start to get clear. Good luck, Cheers !!! Ash , Pratap Kaneria wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for your valuable analysis. I can not say that I understand everything but I am going to print all lessions and start studying seriously. > > With the rectified birth time, Rahu-Sun dasa should start in this coming July. Now that you have studied my chart in detail, would you be kind enough to share your thoughts on what kind of events I should look forward to during Rahu-Sun dasa. > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > Ok. Check all the events with birth time of 20:45. The navamsa > rising is Aquarius. > > With that your Marriage matches. With time of 20:38 as given, I was > correct and Krushnaji has confirmed that. If your time is 20:38 > them marriage would have happened in Moon antra, but with 20:45 > everything changes. You marriage comes in line as delay is > overridden. Check navamsa lagna and 9th lord of navamsa. They are > in nav-pancham. So blessing of Guru. > > Ketu is SD to Guru, who is in House D with 6 bindus and can give > marriage. > > rest of the events are in CAPS. REFER BELOW. > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > My marriage date is July 21, 1968. > > ASH : EXPLAINED ABOVE WITH RECTIFIED TIME. > > > > I can give a couple more concrete events if that will help. > > > > 1. I came to US in Jan 1967. > > ASH : VE/ME antra. ME IS POWERFUL FOR ALL 12 HOUSES EXCEPT 5TH. > > > 2. I started my first full time job in Jan 1969. > > ASH : SUN/SUN. SUN IS NK FOR 10TH. SUN IS SD TO KARAK OF 6TH AND > SD TO KARAK OF 11TH ALSO. SUN IS LOD FOR 6TH AS B. > > > 3. I started my second full time job on May 16, 1976. > > ASH: VERY END OF MARS ANTRA, MARS IS LOE FOR 6TH. > > > 4. I bought my first home in June 1974. > > ASH : SU/VE. SUN IS SD TO KARAK FOR 4TH, MARS. VENUS IS NSD TO SA > MOST POWRFUL FOR 4TH AND VE ITSELF IS 2ND HIGHEST. > > > 5. I got my bachelor's degree in engineering in June 1966. > > ASH: VE/ME. ME IS LOWEST FOR 5TH. ME IS SD TO JUPITER WHO IS LOE > BUT IF U GET THE DEGREE, ITS SHOWING SOME PROBLEMS. > > > 6. I got my Master's degree in engineering in Jan 1968. > > ASH: VE/KE. KE IS SD TO JU AND SU. BOTH HAVE GOOD POWER FOR 9TH. > > > 7. I dropped out of PhD program in May 1968. > > > > Anyway thanks for your efforts, > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > CHEERS !!! > ASH > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Pratap, > > With the events give so far it seems to be in the ball park, > > however, the correct way would be to give many events of your life > > and in that way a person would be able to use the system. > > > > In any case, Sun antra cant give u marriage, atleast not a happy > > marriage. Moon can give u marriage. As per this data your marriage > > might have happened after 24 years. > > > > Either Ketu gave in the very end means after your 24th birthday > i.e > > after nov 28th 1968. > > > > Ketu 1967-Oct-20 1968-Dec-19 > > > > > > So it means u have 3 pdfs and only 2 falling in proper between > 18th > > nov and 19th dec. Mars is weak for 7th. So that leaves Ju/Ketu. So > > 16th Dec thru 19th Dec. > > > > Mars and Saturn 20-Nov 2-Dec > > Mars and Mercury 3-Dec 15-Dec > > Jupiter and Ketu 16-Dec 28-Dec > > > > In my opinion, Moon can give marriage as its the first strong > antra > > after delay period is over. > > > > Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969-Oct-07 > > > > You said marriage was in 1968. So depending on the month, the > > difference can be anywhere between 1 year 4 months. > > > > Now your fathers death is coming in 8 months range. > > > > Even the start of your new venture was falling just in the prior > > antra. But that was 1 month off i.e. only going by end of one > antra > > and start of the other. > > > > I took all those factors in mind befor sayin that your birth time > is > > in ball park. > > > > In any case, without proper time, I cant personally judge the > month > > but if this is the lagna then Ju and Sa and Venus pdfs will be > very > > powrful periods i.e. if u start to note down events , many events > > will start to happen when sun transits these signs and nakshtras. > > > > A good exercise. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > There is no official record of my birthtime. It is approximately > > as my mother remembers. It was definitely in late evening. Then it > > was rectified by a few eminent astrologers. One doubt I have is > > about the time adjustment due to World War II during my birthdate. > > Now that you have raised the question, I like to add that my > > physical characteristics are much more in line with Taurus > ascendant > > than Gemini. > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Pratap, > > > What was your original time of birth recorded? Can you share > that > > > with us please. > > > Thanks, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Mishra, > > > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > > May be I should make it little easier. I got married in 1968. > > > Please if you can pinpoint the month. > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, Namaskar, > > > > Did you marry in 1965 before November month. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Pratap Kaneria > > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is > > > rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers > > are > > > below. > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us > to > > > > verify your birth time. > > > > > > > > Can you confirm the following. > > > > > > > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do > > with > > > > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching > or > > > > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and > > > Shani > > > > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > > > > > > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as > > > well as US. > > > > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I > worked > > > as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > > > > > > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and > > > expenses. > > > > > > > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / > work > > > > during > > > > > > > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > > > > > > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes > changed > > > jobs > > > > > > > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your > own > > > > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended > in > > > March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > > > > > > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > > > > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > > > > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might > > have > > > > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > > > > period is very powerful. > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in > > getting > > > a big drug manufacturing project started. > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative > > > consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > > > > > > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health > wise > > > > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon > > mahadasha. > > > Mother still lives. > > > > > > > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , Pratap > Kaneria > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the > > group. > > > > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I > volunteer > > my > > > > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > > > > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my > > marriage > > > > date ? > > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > > > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your > thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by > > > sharing > > > > > their understanding. > > > > > > > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > > > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > > > > query, > > > > > even better. > > > > > > > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things > > > will > > > > > get cleared. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed > approach > > > and > > > > > exercise, > > > > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused > by > > > > zero > > > > > is > > > > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in > > > 5:9... > > > > but > > > > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the > > following > > > > about > > > > > > saturn dealy: > > > > > > e.g. > > > > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say > its > > > the > > > > > lord > > > > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving > > delay. > > > > as i > > > > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi > and > > > > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the > > > delay > > > > is > > > > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after > > satrun > > > > > reaches > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord > of > > D > > > > or E > > > > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the > time > > it > > > > > reaches > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur > in > > > the > > > > > 1st > > > > > > sector itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of > A, > > B > > > > and C > > > > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 > > > degree > > > > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the > age > > of > > > > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and > 9 > > > are > > > > > only > > > > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 > > > positioning... > > > > > does > > > > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is > > in > > > > > libra in > > > > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having > > exactly > > > 4 > > > > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, > > > venus > > > > > etc > > > > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from > > the > > > > > bhava or > > > > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of > > female > > > > in > > > > > 5th > > > > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > > > > aspecting > > > > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for > picking > > > the > > > > > right > > > > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " kaslearner " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and > > > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > > > > nullified > > > > > by > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is > > running > > > > Moon > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have > > given > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > > > > additional > > > > > > > 10% > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the > > native > > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage > in > > > the > > > > > chart, > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So > > sun > > > > is > > > > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in > the > > > > > > > worksheet. > > > > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the > > second > > > > > antra. > > > > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the > > > wishes > > > > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > > > > Members, > > > > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it > > will > > > be > > > > > nice > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the > perfect > > > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > , > bala > > > > sosale > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > > > > PDF > > > > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting > the > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope > I > > > > > did > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this > Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one > > > click > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 ---- Pratap Kaneria 05/13/06 10:39:01 Re: Re: New chart .. Dear Ash, Thanks. With the rectified time, you have given me a too good a navamsa chart. Going by traditional basics, there are four exalted planets in navamsa, Su, Mo, Ra and Ke. Lagna lord Sa is in 2nd house and there is parivartana yoga between 12th and second lord. I don't know if I deserve this but I will take it. With Regards, Pratap ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pratap, Sun has more points in 12th than 11th. At the same time its LoD and LoE for 6th and 10th. So its good for job however you will experience more expense. In moon antra it will be of 2nd lord so more worries... but at the same time your income will be more than expense. Yes, u read the lessons and the analysis slowly and things will start to get clear. Good luck, Cheers !!! Ash , Pratap Kaneria wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for your valuable analysis. I can not say that I understand everything but I am going to print all lessions and start studying seriously. > > With the rectified birth time, Rahu-Sun dasa should start in this coming July. Now that you have studied my chart in detail, would you be kind enough to share your thoughts on what kind of events I should look forward to during Rahu-Sun dasa. > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > Ok. Check all the events with birth time of 20:45. The navamsa > rising is Aquarius. > > With that your Marriage matches. With time of 20:38 as given, I was > correct and Krushnaji has confirmed that. If your time is 20:38 > them marriage would have happened in Moon antra, but with 20:45 > everything changes. You marriage comes in line as delay is > overridden. Check navamsa lagna and 9th lord of navamsa. They are > in nav-pancham. So blessing of Guru. > > Ketu is SD to Guru, who is in House D with 6 bindus and can give > marriage. > > rest of the events are in CAPS. REFER BELOW. > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > My marriage date is July 21, 1968. > > ASH : EXPLAINED ABOVE WITH RECTIFIED TIME. > > > > I can give a couple more concrete events if that will help. > > > > 1. I came to US in Jan 1967. > > ASH : VE/ME antra. ME IS POWERFUL FOR ALL 12 HOUSES EXCEPT 5TH. > > > 2. I started my first full time job in Jan 1969. > > ASH : SUN/SUN. SUN IS NK FOR 10TH. SUN IS SD TO KARAK OF 6TH AND > SD TO KARAK OF 11TH ALSO. SUN IS LOD FOR 6TH AS B. > > > 3. I started my second full time job on May 16, 1976. > > ASH: VERY END OF MARS ANTRA, MARS IS LOE FOR 6TH. > > > 4. I bought my first home in June 1974. > > ASH : SU/VE. SUN IS SD TO KARAK FOR 4TH, MARS. VENUS IS NSD TO SA > MOST POWRFUL FOR 4TH AND VE ITSELF IS 2ND HIGHEST. > > > 5. I got my bachelor's degree in engineering in June 1966. > > ASH: VE/ME. ME IS LOWEST FOR 5TH. ME IS SD TO JUPITER WHO IS LOE > BUT IF U GET THE DEGREE, ITS SHOWING SOME PROBLEMS. > > > 6. I got my Master's degree in engineering in Jan 1968. > > ASH: VE/KE. KE IS SD TO JU AND SU. BOTH HAVE GOOD POWER FOR 9TH. > > > 7. I dropped out of PhD program in May 1968. > > > > Anyway thanks for your efforts, > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > CHEERS !!! > ASH > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Pratap, > > With the events give so far it seems to be in the ball park, > > however, the correct way would be to give many events of your life > > and in that way a person would be able to use the system. > > > > In any case, Sun antra cant give u marriage, atleast not a happy > > marriage. Moon can give u marriage. As per this data your marriage > > might have happened after 24 years. > > > > Either Ketu gave in the very end means after your 24th birthday > i.e > > after nov 28th 1968. > > > > Ketu 1967-Oct-20 1968-Dec-19 > > > > > > So it means u have 3 pdfs and only 2 falling in proper between > 18th > > nov and 19th dec. Mars is weak for 7th. So that leaves Ju/Ketu. So > > 16th Dec thru 19th Dec. > > > > Mars and Saturn 20-Nov 2-Dec > > Mars and Mercury 3-Dec 15-Dec > > Jupiter and Ketu 16-Dec 28-Dec > > > > In my opinion, Moon can give marriage as its the first strong > antra > > after delay period is over. > > > > Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969-Oct-07 > > > > You said marriage was in 1968. So depending on the month, the > > difference can be anywhere between 1 year 4 months. > > > > Now your fathers death is coming in 8 months range. > > > > Even the start of your new venture was falling just in the prior > > antra. But that was 1 month off i.e. only going by end of one > antra > > and start of the other. > > > > I took all those factors in mind befor sayin that your birth time > is > > in ball park. > > > > In any case, without proper time, I cant personally judge the > month > > but if this is the lagna then Ju and Sa and Venus pdfs will be > very > > powrful periods i.e. if u start to note down events , many events > > will start to happen when sun transits these signs and nakshtras. > > > > A good exercise. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > There is no official record of my birthtime. It is approximately > > as my mother remembers. It was definitely in late evening. Then it > > was rectified by a few eminent astrologers. One doubt I have is > > about the time adjustment due to World War II during my birthdate. > > Now that you have raised the question, I like to add that my > > physical characteristics are much more in line with Taurus > ascendant > > than Gemini. > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Pratap, > > > What was your original time of birth recorded? Can you share > that > > > with us please. > > > Thanks, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Mishra, > > > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > > May be I should make it little easier. I got married in 1968. > > > Please if you can pinpoint the month. > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, Namaskar, > > > > Did you marry in 1965 before November month. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Pratap Kaneria > > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is > > > rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers > > are > > > below. > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us > to > > > > verify your birth time. > > > > > > > > Can you confirm the following. > > > > > > > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do > > with > > > > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching > or > > > > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and > > > Shani > > > > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > > > > > > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as > > > well as US. > > > > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I > worked > > > as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > > > > > > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and > > > expenses. > > > > > > > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / > work > > > > during > > > > > > > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > > > > > > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes > changed > > > jobs > > > > > > > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your > own > > > > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended > in > > > March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > > > > > > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > > > > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > > > > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might > > have > > > > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > > > > period is very powerful. > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in > > getting > > > a big drug manufacturing project started. > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative > > > consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > > > > > > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health > wise > > > > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon > > mahadasha. > > > Mother still lives. > > > > > > > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , Pratap > Kaneria > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the > > group. > > > > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I > volunteer > > my > > > > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > > > > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my > > marriage > > > > date ? > > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > > > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your > thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by > > > sharing > > > > > their understanding. > > > > > > > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > > > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > > > > query, > > > > > even better. > > > > > > > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things > > > will > > > > > get cleared. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed > approach > > > and > > > > > exercise, > > > > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused > by > > > > zero > > > > > is > > > > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in > > > 5:9... > > > > but > > > > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the > > following > > > > about > > > > > > saturn dealy: > > > > > > e.g. > > > > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say > its > > > the > > > > > lord > > > > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving > > delay. > > > > as i > > > > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi > and > > > > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the > > > delay > > > > is > > > > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after > > satrun > > > > > reaches > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord > of > > D > > > > or E > > > > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the > time > > it > > > > > reaches > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur > in > > > the > > > > > 1st > > > > > > sector itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of > A, > > B > > > > and C > > > > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 > > > degree > > > > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the > age > > of > > > > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and > 9 > > > are > > > > > only > > > > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 > > > positioning... > > > > > does > > > > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is > > in > > > > > libra in > > > > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having > > exactly > > > 4 > > > > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, > > > venus > > > > > etc > > > > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from > > the > > > > > bhava or > > > > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of > > female > > > > in > > > > > 5th > > > > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > > > > aspecting > > > > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for > picking > > > the > > > > > right > > > > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " kaslearner " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and > > > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > > > > nullified > > > > > by > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is > > running > > > > Moon > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have > > given > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > > > > additional > > > > > > > 10% > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the > > native > > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage > in > > > the > > > > > chart, > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So > > sun > > > > is > > > > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in > the > > > > > > > worksheet. > > > > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the > > second > > > > > antra. > > > > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the > > > wishes > > > > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > > > > Members, > > > > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it > > will > > > be > > > > > nice > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the > perfect > > > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > , > bala > > > > sosale > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > > > > PDF > > > > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting > the > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope > I > > > > > did > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > > > > 2. 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Guest guest Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 ---- GAUTAM ANAND 05/13/06 13:21:31 Re: Re: New chart .. ---- Pratap Kaneria 05/13/06 10:39:01 Re: Re: New chart .. Dear Ash, Thanks. With the rectified time, you have given me a too good a navamsa chart. Going by traditional basics, there are four exalted planets in navamsa, Su, Mo, Ra and Ke. Lagna lord Sa is in 2nd house and there is parivartana yoga between 12th and second lord. I don't know if I deserve this but I will take it. With Regards, Pratap ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pratap, Sun has more points in 12th than 11th. At the same time its LoD and LoE for 6th and 10th. So its good for job however you will experience more expense. In moon antra it will be of 2nd lord so more worries... but at the same time your income will be more than expense. Yes, u read the lessons and the analysis slowly and things will start to get clear. Good luck, Cheers !!! Ash , Pratap Kaneria wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for your valuable analysis. I can not say that I understand everything but I am going to print all lessions and start studying seriously. > > With the rectified birth time, Rahu-Sun dasa should start in this coming July. Now that you have studied my chart in detail, would you be kind enough to share your thoughts on what kind of events I should look forward to during Rahu-Sun dasa. > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > Ok. Check all the events with birth time of 20:45. The navamsa > rising is Aquarius. > > With that your Marriage matches. With time of 20:38 as given, I was > correct and Krushnaji has confirmed that. If your time is 20:38 > them marriage would have happened in Moon antra, but with 20:45 > everything changes. You marriage comes in line as delay is > overridden. Check navamsa lagna and 9th lord of navamsa. They are > in nav-pancham. So blessing of Guru. > > Ketu is SD to Guru, who is in House D with 6 bindus and can give > marriage. > > rest of the events are in CAPS. REFER BELOW. > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > My marriage date is July 21, 1968. > > ASH : EXPLAINED ABOVE WITH RECTIFIED TIME. > > > > I can give a couple more concrete events if that will help. > > > > 1. I came to US in Jan 1967. > > ASH : VE/ME antra. ME IS POWERFUL FOR ALL 12 HOUSES EXCEPT 5TH. > > > 2. I started my first full time job in Jan 1969. > > ASH : SUN/SUN. SUN IS NK FOR 10TH. SUN IS SD TO KARAK OF 6TH AND > SD TO KARAK OF 11TH ALSO. SUN IS LOD FOR 6TH AS B. > > > 3. I started my second full time job on May 16, 1976. > > ASH: VERY END OF MARS ANTRA, MARS IS LOE FOR 6TH. > > > 4. I bought my first home in June 1974. > > ASH : SU/VE. SUN IS SD TO KARAK FOR 4TH, MARS. VENUS IS NSD TO SA > MOST POWRFUL FOR 4TH AND VE ITSELF IS 2ND HIGHEST. > > > 5. I got my bachelor's degree in engineering in June 1966. > > ASH: VE/ME. ME IS LOWEST FOR 5TH. ME IS SD TO JUPITER WHO IS LOE > BUT IF U GET THE DEGREE, ITS SHOWING SOME PROBLEMS. > > > 6. I got my Master's degree in engineering in Jan 1968. > > ASH: VE/KE. KE IS SD TO JU AND SU. BOTH HAVE GOOD POWER FOR 9TH. > > > 7. I dropped out of PhD program in May 1968. > > > > Anyway thanks for your efforts, > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > CHEERS !!! > ASH > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Pratap, > > With the events give so far it seems to be in the ball park, > > however, the correct way would be to give many events of your life > > and in that way a person would be able to use the system. > > > > In any case, Sun antra cant give u marriage, atleast not a happy > > marriage. Moon can give u marriage. As per this data your marriage > > might have happened after 24 years. > > > > Either Ketu gave in the very end means after your 24th birthday > i.e > > after nov 28th 1968. > > > > Ketu 1967-Oct-20 1968-Dec-19 > > > > > > So it means u have 3 pdfs and only 2 falling in proper between > 18th > > nov and 19th dec. Mars is weak for 7th. So that leaves Ju/Ketu. So > > 16th Dec thru 19th Dec. > > > > Mars and Saturn 20-Nov 2-Dec > > Mars and Mercury 3-Dec 15-Dec > > Jupiter and Ketu 16-Dec 28-Dec > > > > In my opinion, Moon can give marriage as its the first strong > antra > > after delay period is over. > > > > Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969-Oct-07 > > > > You said marriage was in 1968. So depending on the month, the > > difference can be anywhere between 1 year 4 months. > > > > Now your fathers death is coming in 8 months range. > > > > Even the start of your new venture was falling just in the prior > > antra. But that was 1 month off i.e. only going by end of one > antra > > and start of the other. > > > > I took all those factors in mind befor sayin that your birth time > is > > in ball park. > > > > In any case, without proper time, I cant personally judge the > month > > but if this is the lagna then Ju and Sa and Venus pdfs will be > very > > powrful periods i.e. if u start to note down events , many events > > will start to happen when sun transits these signs and nakshtras. > > > > A good exercise. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > There is no official record of my birthtime. It is approximately > > as my mother remembers. It was definitely in late evening. Then it > > was rectified by a few eminent astrologers. One doubt I have is > > about the time adjustment due to World War II during my birthdate. > > Now that you have raised the question, I like to add that my > > physical characteristics are much more in line with Taurus > ascendant > > than Gemini. > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Pratap, > > > What was your original time of birth recorded? Can you share > that > > > with us please. > > > Thanks, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Mishra, > > > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > > > May be I should make it little easier. I got married in 1968. > > > Please if you can pinpoint the month. > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, Namaskar, > > > > Did you marry in 1965 before November month. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Pratap Kaneria > > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is > > > rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers > > are > > > below. > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us > to > > > > verify your birth time. > > > > > > > > Can you confirm the following. > > > > > > > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do > > with > > > > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching > or > > > > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and > > > Shani > > > > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > > > > > > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as > > > well as US. > > > > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I > worked > > > as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > > > > > > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and > > > expenses. > > > > > > > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / > work > > > > during > > > > > > > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > > > > > > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes > changed > > > jobs > > > > > > > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your > own > > > > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended > in > > > March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > > > > > > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > > > > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > > > > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might > > have > > > > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > > > > period is very powerful. > > > > > > > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in > > getting > > > a big drug manufacturing project started. > > > > > > > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative > > > consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > > > > > > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health > wise > > > > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon > > mahadasha. > > > Mother still lives. > > > > > > > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , Pratap > Kaneria > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the > > group. > > > > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I > volunteer > > my > > > > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > > > > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > > > > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my > > marriage > > > > date ? > > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > > > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your > thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by > > > sharing > > > > > their understanding. > > > > > > > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > > > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > > > > query, > > > > > even better. > > > > > > > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things > > > will > > > > > get cleared. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed > approach > > > and > > > > > exercise, > > > > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused > by > > > > zero > > > > > is > > > > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in > > > 5:9... > > > > but > > > > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the > > following > > > > about > > > > > > saturn dealy: > > > > > > e.g. > > > > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say > its > > > the > > > > > lord > > > > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving > > delay. > > > > as i > > > > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi > and > > > > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the > > > delay > > > > is > > > > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after > > satrun > > > > > reaches > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord > of > > D > > > > or E > > > > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the > time > > it > > > > > reaches > > > > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur > in > > > the > > > > > 1st > > > > > > sector itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of > A, > > B > > > > and C > > > > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 > > > degree > > > > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the > age > > of > > > > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and > 9 > > > are > > > > > only > > > > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 > > > positioning... > > > > > does > > > > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is > > in > > > > > libra in > > > > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having > > exactly > > > 4 > > > > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, > > > venus > > > > > etc > > > > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from > > the > > > > > bhava or > > > > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of > > female > > > > in > > > > > 5th > > > > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > > > > aspecting > > > > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for > picking > > > the > > > > > right > > > > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " kaslearner " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and > > > others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > > > > nullified > > > > > by > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is > > running > > > > Moon > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have > > given > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > > > > additional > > > > > > > 10% > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the > > native > > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > Sun > > > > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage > in > > > the > > > > > chart, > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So > > sun > > > > is > > > > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for > marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in > the > > > > > > > worksheet. > > > > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the > > second > > > > > antra. > > > > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the > > > wishes > > > > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > > > > Members, > > > > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it > > will > > > be > > > > > nice > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the > perfect > > > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > , > bala > > > > sosale > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > > > > PDF > > > > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting > the > > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope > I > > > > > did > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > > > > analyse > > > > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this > Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one > > > click > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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