Mr. P. Mahajan/ birth dates and time accuracy

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Dear Ash,

 

Ascertaining the proper birth time is critical for right prediction true, but

why is that when we have of personal events to verify and cross check also, we

fail?

 

Are we missing here some important elements in the rectification process or do

we need to learn/understand more, or is it because rectification needs a lot of

practice/ experience/ diligence and if they are missing it is easy to err?

 

So my question is - whether or not the events like date of marriage or college

graduation, or foreign trips and stays, birth of a child /surgeries etc etc can

accurately determine the time of birth? Even in cases where the lagna changes

with in few minutes?

 

You also mentioned that practice makes us perfect. So for my learning and as

well as for others, I would like to share my date of birth, then people can

predict the events, dates and confirm with my data. Can I present my self as the

walking talking guinea pig to offer my data for discussion? In my case, I have

the correct date and place of birth info. , but the time is not very accurate,

as the lagna changes with in 2, 3 minutes of 5.08 am birth time. The lagna can

be confirmed after checking the dates of events that people come up with. So,

can I request the learners and the other learned men, to attempt my case and

tell me the following info.,

 

The following events can be identified with correct dates for dhanur and

sagittarius lagna

 

Whether I am male or female.

my physical characteristics/attributes, Saggi VS scorpio

my date of marriage and

Birth of children, possibly as to how many, male, female?

Note-worthy events

Geographical/ physical moves.

Theft date, place, and time, where it was stolen from?

date I lost my father.

I will give you a hint, the marriage took place in late 70's ( bet. 75-79). I

had few trans-continental moves, one was in sept 77, late 80's, two in early to

mid 90's another in late 90’s, and I traveled very widely. (saw 30 countries in

the world) Mine can either be scorpio lagna or sagittarius. Another hint I can

give you is, I lost lot of things in a theft in 2000's. Our passports, cash, our

jewelry and all our clothes etc, and we (my spouse and I) were left with the

clothes we were wearing at the time in a strange city. (Very traumatic) someone

can be an astrological genius if they can pinpoint the date of loss, where and

when, and whether I found my things or not. {Well someone can be a double genius

if they can tell me who stole it, and the person's address? } That was a very

substantial loss for us, and I am sure it would reflect some where in my chart

, as we have to do lot of running around to file the police complaints, and

re-establishing our identity

again to get the passports, visas, our travel tickets etc. Another tragic event

that occurred is loss my father in early 2001.

 

Now the reason for asking to come up with the dates of these events, as

opposed to me providing the dates is quite obvious here, as some of us might

feel we may try to justify the events after we know that they have occurred on

that particular date, as opposed to coming up with events/ date and time based

on the natal, transit chart. Since they were destined/determined events, we

should be able identify/ narrow down these dates based on the astrological

principles. It is a real test to the knowledge.

 

This is a sort of a puzzle for birth rectification principles, (but you are

also helping me indirectly by confirming my DOB, while you are learning or

sharing or whatever you are doing, so thanks in advance for that)

 

Here one may be looking at both lagnas, to note down the dates of events. So

please mention the dates and lagna separately, and then I can confirm them

based on the actual occurrences.

 

This may be for serious learners who want to attempt and perfect their

rectification methods, and as well for those who mastered astrology and have a

large heart to share their techniques/logic of using rectification methods, as

rectification methods are crucial for predictions. So I thank both the groups.

But in case, I upset (?) any one in-between for reasons beyond my comprehension,

my apologies to them also in advance .

My DOB jan 4th 1953

Time 5.08 am 0r 5.10 am

Place: Madras

Thank you

( I am not signing my name yet)

 

 

 

 

 

ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

 

" I always say, and you can find in so many mails, is first u first be

comfortable with the birth data given and match the events if in

line. It is also written down in the introductory page when you log

on to the list. Make sure the events are mathing. Now this is a

labourious job and tedious. "

 

Yes, in doing so u can practice and get the technique right. Slowly

slowly one gets confidence. There is no substitue for hard work and

experience.

 

This is no matter what system you use or what technique.

 

We are just trying to follow that here.

 

If birth data is wrong, everything goes wrong.

 

I hope you get the point what I am driving at.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, Prathamesn Chawan

<upaoakcrest wrote:

>

> Respected Sir Ash

>

> Just few days ago i was listening lecture of Pt. Sanjay Rath on

Pramod Mahajan. He said firmly that situation is critical for him

but he will survive. Mr. Pramod Mahajan's horoscope was discussed on

all the astrology group.

>

> Some asked Pt. Sanjay Rath Ji that how are you sure about his

birth details and he said that his family members told him.

>

> Now all the astrologers predicted that he will survive but after

struggle. Noone said that he will die.

>

> But he passes away.

>

> I have seen it many many times that when it comes to predicting

the future and in that predicting critical situation then many many

astrologers fail (including Pt. K. N. Rao). While any astrologer can

verify past with the help of astrology.

>

> Just two days ago, Pt. Sanjay Rath gave lecture that why he

survived. He showed many reasons for his survival. What happened to

his reasons ?

>

> Jagdish

> ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

> Dear Ramesh and Jagdish,

> From what I read from www.timesofindia.com

>

> " Senior BJP leader Pramod Mahajan died at Mumbai's Hinduja

Hospital

> on Wednesday afternoon. He was 56. Mahajan had been shot by his

> younger brother on April 22. "

>

> The age given by Times Of India is 56 years. So technically his

> year of birth should be 1950.

>

> So now we have 3 different years of birth floating around viz-a-

viz

> 1948, 1949 and 1950.

>

> Then on the other hand there are birth data of twins where a few

> mins might change a lot of things......

>

> Interesting eh !!

>

> May His Soul rest in Peace.

>

> Ash

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagdish,

> > I have seen u ask about charts of famous people, I think even in

> > earlier posts you had asked similar thing.

> > There is no harm in that, but when people are famous and those

in

> > India who know the power of Jyotish shastra, sometimes give

> > misleading information.

> > Now, please do not get me wrong, maybe this data given by you is

> > cent per cent authentic then no harm in going deeper. If it is

> not

> > then ? How do u decide and confirm that this data is authentic

or

> > not?

> > There are so many needy people that would love to receive some

> help

> > regarding their charts who might give u authentic information

and

> > share data which can also facilitate your learning process.

> >

> > If you want to take such famous charts, then get about 20 solid

> > events and then study and match each and every event with the

time

> > and see if all matches. Then u can venture into future

prediction

> > if u find that all events are matching or coming close.

> >

> > For your information, I have seen many astrologers debate if

1949

> is

> > the birth year or is it 1948. Is the time 21:00 or 21:21. Is

the

> > place of birth Hyderabad or Mehabubnagar. Each of the three

DoB,

> > ToB and PoB are in question.

> >

> > If you have time and if u have a good number of solid and

> verifiable

> > events then feel free to go ahead, use KAS, verify events and

> > predict future events. Such an effort and exercise will help u

in

> > the long run.

> >

> > Also for other famous people too like politicians, actors,

> > actresses, industrialists, sports personalities etc. These

charts

> > can reveal a lot provided one has the right birth details.

> >

> > Otherwise, our Jyotish Shastra merely becomes a guessing game.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , Prathamesn

Chawan

> > <upaoakcrest@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Sir Ash and other members

> > >

> > > Would you like to throw some light on Mr P. Mahajan's chart ?

> > >

> > > October 30, 1948

> > > Time: 9:21:00 pm

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23' 00 "

> > > Hyderabad, India

> > >

> > >

> > > I got the details from other group.

> > >

> > > Best Wishes

> > >

> > > Jagdish

> > >

> > >

> > >

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