KAS2006 Ver2.3 Why change in Natal Ascendant and should we re-assess charts ?

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Dear Ash, Donna and the list,

 

Why is the change in Natal Ascendant in KAS2006 Ver2.3?

Here are my details:

DOB: 1961-12-09

TOB: 16:30:00

Lat: 17N15

Lon: 80E11

IST: -5:30

 

As per the prior version of KAS software, Taurus was the ASC

Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa

As 9 Ta 27 Krittika Su Pi

Su 24 Sc 43 Jyestha Me Aq

Mo 13 Sg 45 P.Asadha Ve Le

Ma 26 Sc 11 Jyestha Me Aq

Me 20 Sc 54 Jyestha Me Cp

Ju 13 Cp 19 Sravana Mo Ar

Ve 12 Sc 59 Anuradha Sa Li

Sa 4 Cp 49 U.Asadha Su Aq

Ra 28 Cn 47 Aslesha Me Pi

Ke 28 Cp 47 Dhanistha Ma Vi

 

and with KAS2006 v2.3 the AQU is the Ascendant.

Planet Degrees Nakshatra Lord Navamsa

As 26 Aq 23 P.Bhadrapada Ju Ta

Su 24 Sc 43 Jyestha Me Aq

Mo 13 Sg 45 P.Asadha Ve Le

Ma 26 Sc 11 Jyestha Me Aq

Me 20 Sc 54 Jyestha Me Cp

Ju 13 Cp 19 Sravana Mo Ar

Ve 12 Sc 59 Anuradha Sa Li

Sa 4 Cp 49 U.Asadha Su Aq

Ra 28 Cn 47 Aslesha Me Pi

Ke 28 Cp 47 Dhanistha Ma Vi

 

Please feel free to use the Natal details for your study.

 

Regards,

Kris

 

, Ash <ashsam73

wrote:

>

> Dear Kris,

> It depends on how deep u want to go into rectification of the

chart. In most cases of timing events the from the WS you can

identify it clearly.

> Say take 10 events of your life, major events, and first see if the

antras are matching for all 10 events.

> Once you are statisfied that most of the events are matching in the

proper antra then go in 1 step deeper and then try to see which

sector will those events likely take place.

> Once you do that exercise for all 10 events and find out if they

are coming close or even rather in vicinity, then you can go one step

deeper to try to find within that sector when the events took place

using PDF or suns transit over powerful plants as per WS.

>

> So my suggestion is that step one for your study, take say 10 to 20

events of your life and then see if events are falling as per proper

antra. Say its happy marriage and if its coming or falling in lowest

points then somethign is not right. Say if Marriage is matching as

in your case i.e. with old time its falling in Mars antra and with

new time its falling in Ju antra, both are highest points. But

before that check delay for marriage. With old time there is no

delay. With rectified time there is delay due to Shani , then child

concpetion time, should match too in highest points for 5th house,

change of jobs and only u would know the reason see which antra they

are falling for example with new time its falling in Venus antra.

See the points of Ve for 6th house ... they are (from memory) i

belive 12 points so borderline.. so can go either way. When u

purchased a car/ house etc see if antra is proper and then keep going

deeper.

>

> This is one way to rectify time.

> Its not an easy task and for this u need very through knowledge of

KAS which is what I am trying to learn.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> gdplus1 <gdplus1 wrote:

> Dear Ash,

>

> Please excuse my ignorance.

> >> One thing, if the time is proper then each and every event of

life

> should match.

> May be not everyone can precisely remember the specific times of

the

> day and time of the occurrence of all events? For example of

> conception time, we can subtract apprx. 10 months from Child's

birth

> date. Please guide me.

>

> Thank You! for your valuable input. I will work on it.

>

> Regards,

> Kris

> , Ash

> wrote:

> > Dear Kris,

> > I am sorry that part I shall leave upto you as a part of learning

> KAS.

> >

> > Take all the events and time them with 18:30 time, if you are

> satisfied its ok and if not its ok too.

> >

> > One thing, if the time is proper then each and every event of

life

> should match.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > jayavijaya2 wrote:

> > Dear Ash,

> > As it is a overwhelming task of timing the next job as I have

just

> > started to learn the system.

> >

> > I am told that Janma Nakshatra characteristics of Moola is more

> > appropriate than Poorva Ashada (Considering 18:30 Hrs.).

> >

> > Could you be kind enough to time it considering the 18:30 hrs

> > mentioned by you or whichever you consider is appropriate.

> >

> > Appreciate your help.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Kris

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Kris,

> > > I studied your chart and can u test all your life events and

for

> > > children look at conception not actual birth date and see if it

> > > alligns properly.

> > >

> > > Try the birth time of 18:30 and tally all your events of life.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " gdplus1 "

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > Small clarification i.e., emotionally disturbed in the

context

> of

> > > > breaks in employment during late 1999, 2000, 2001 and

draining

> of

> > > > financial resources/savings and events of Sept. 11 2001 and

not

> > > > related to wife/affairs or family matters. But had couple of

> very

> > > > good jobs during 1999 & 2000. The first 27 years of early

life

> > was

> > > > more a struggle for survival than to have serious affairs.

Here

> > > are

> > > > couple of more incidents:

> > > > Passing away of Father: June 24th 1974

> > > > Passing away of Mother: July 4th 1976

> > > > Would these events help in validating your analysis and to

> arrive

> > > at

> > > > TOB?

> > > >

> > > > I hope Respected Krushnaji can shed some light on your

> questions.

> > > >

> > > > Appreciate your help in timing the next Job.

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Kris

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Kris,

> > > > > The reason I asked about your birth time is based on some

> > events

> > > u

> > > > > gave. I am not getting this much delay in your marriage,

> > unless

> > > u

> > > > > had some serious affairs with atleast 3 women before u got

> > > married.

> > > > > Something to me is not fitting right.

> > > > > Only you know the details of your life and u can learn the

> > > system

> > > > > and try to time events after learning the basics of KAS.

> > > > > For that you will have to learn on chart other than yours

or

> > > your

> > > > > closed ones as u natrually would be biased.

> > > > >

> > > > > As per the data u gave, mars antra is when u married, which

> > does

> > > > > have the highest points but I cant see any major delay in

> your

> > > > > marriage. Now again the emotional difficult period u gave

is

> > > > > falling in Mercury antra and that does have less points for

> 7th

> > > > > house so its showing some major issues with wife but its

good

> > > for

> > > > > other 11 houses.

> > > > >

> > > > > However if the birth time is right then most of the events

> > > should

> > > > > match or atleast should be in ball park.

> > > > > Unless there is some reason for this much delay in your

> > marriage

> > > or

> > > > > some law that I have overlooked I am not getting this much

> > delay.

> > > > >

> > > > > Maybe your birth time is right, but I am not getting any

> > > > > satisfactory answer to the delay in your chart, unless

> > Krushnaji

> > > if

> > > > > he has time can out where I am going wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash

> > > > >

> > > > > , " gdplus1 "

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ash, Per older sister who's about 12 years older,

the

> > TOB

> > > is

> > > > > > about 4:30pm and guessing it may not be the exact time, I

> > > tried

> > > > to

> > > > > > rectify myself doing some reading.

> > > > > > I arrived at 15:25:50. But per family member it may be

> 4:30PM.

> > > > > > DOB: 1961-12-09

> > > > > > TOB: 15:25:50

> > > > > > Lat: 17N15

> > > > > > Lon: 80E11

> > > > > > IST: -5:30

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Kris

> > > > > > --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Krishna,

> > > > > > > How sure are u of your birth time ?

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> , " gdplus1 "

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > Per your guidance, I tried to read and understand.

> > > > > > > > Please help me with timing the next job and to read

and

> > > > > interpret

> > > > > > > > what the following mean:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > From Natal Chart: 9-Dec-1961

> > > > > > > > Aries ASC (29)

> > > > > > > > 2nd house: 26 (Ta)

> > > > > > > > Ra in 4th:28

> > > > > > > > 6th House: 42 (Vi)

> > > > > > > > Su Ma Me Ve in 8th:28

> > > > > > > > Mo in 9th:21

> > > > > > > > Ju Sa Ke in 10th:28 (Cp)

> > > > > > > > 11th: 27

> > > > > > > > 12th: 23

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > From worksheet H6, All planets are strong (12 or more

> > pts)

> > > > > > > > i.e., 13 to 21 points

> > > > > > > > Strongest is Me 21 pts

> > > > > > > > Sa 16

> > > > > > > > Mo Ma Ve 15 each

> > > > > > > > Ju 14

> > > > > > > > Su 13

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Again,

> > > > > > > > Mars is Nat. & Func. Karaka

> > > > > > > > LD is Me

> > > > > > > > LE is Sa

> > > > > > > > L12 is Sun

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > How do we time next job start date? Look at Past

> info ...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here is Last 3 Job info:

> > > > > > > > Job1 21 Oct 2002 until 3rd Oct 2003

> > > > > > > > Job2 28 Nov 2003 until Feb 9th 2004

> > > > > > > > Job3 Mar 26th 2004 Until June 24th 2005

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Event No. 1

> > > > > > > > ************************************

> > > > > > > > Job3 End 24-Jun-2005

> > > > > > > > Total Daily Transit SAV Pts: 205

> > > > > > > > Ju(5) + Sa(2) = 7

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ra transit Aries (First House) Pts: 28

> > > > > > > > 2nd House with 34 points

> > > > > > > > Su(4) Thru Gemini (3rd House) Pts: 24

> > > > > > > > Me(7) Ve(5) Sa(5) in (4th House) Pts:34

> > > > > > > > Leo (Fifth House) Pts: 24

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ju(5) Ke Asc in (6th House) Pts:23

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Libra (Seventh House) Pts: 27

> > > > > > > > 8th House with 25 points

> > > > > > > > Sagitarius (9th House) Pts: 29

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mo(6) in Cp (10th House) Pts: 28

> > > > > > > > Aq. (11th House) Pts: 29

> > > > > > > > Ma(2) Ra in Pi (12th House) pts:32

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Event No. 2

> > > > > > > > ************************************

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Job3 Start: 26-Mar-2004

> > > > > > > > Total SAV Pts: 192

> > > > > > > > Ju(7) + Sat(5) = 12

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Me(4) Ve(5) Ra transit Aries (First House) Pts: 28

> > > > > > > > Mo(5) Mar(2) transit thru Taurus (2nd House) Pts: 34

> > > > > > > > Sa(5) Asc Thru Gemini (3rd House) Pts: 24

> > > > > > > > (4th House) Pts: 31

> > > > > > > > JuR(7) thru Leo (Fifth House) Pts: 31

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Vi (6th House) Pts: 23

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke in Libra (Seventh House) pts: 27

> > > > > > > > Sc (8th House) pts:25

> > > > > > > > Sagitarius (9th House) Pts: 29

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Capricorn (10th House) Pts: 28

> > > > > > > > (11th House) Pts: 29

> > > > > > > > Sun(2) Thru Pi (12th House) pts:32

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Event No. 3

> > > > > > > > ************************************

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Job2 End 09-Feb-2004

> > > > > > > > Total SAV Pts: 209

> > > > > > > > Ju(7) + Sat(5) = 12

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ma(5) Ra transit Aries (First House) Pts: 28

> > > > > > > > Asc in 2nd House with 34 points

> > > > > > > > SaR(5) Thru Gemini (3rd House) Pts: 24

> > > > > > > > (4th House) Pts: 34

> > > > > > > > JuR(7) thru Leo (Fifth House) Pts: 24

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mo(6) in (6th House) Pts:23

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke in Libra (Seventh House) Pts: 27

> > > > > > > > Sc (8th House) pts:25

> > > > > > > > Sagitarius (9th House) Pts: 29

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Su(3) Me(5) transit Cp (10th House) Pts: 28

> > > > > > > > Aq. (11th House) Pts: 29

> > > > > > > > Ve(5) Thru Pi (12th House) pts:32

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Event No. 4

> > > > > > > > ************************************

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Job2: Start: 28-Nov-2003

> > > > > > > > Total Transit SAV Pts: 184

> > > > > > > > Ju(7) + Sat(5) = 12

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ra transit Aries (First House) Pts: 28

> > > > > > > > se) Pts: 28

> > > > > > > > 2nd House with 34 points

> > > > > > > > SaR(5) Thru Gemini (3rd House) Pts: 24

> > > > > > > > (4th House) Pts: 34

> > > > > > > > Ju(7) thru Leo (Fifth House) Pts: 24

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Vi (6th House) Pts: 23

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke in Libra (Seventh House) pts:27

> > > > > > > > Su(4) in Sc (8th House) pts:25

> > > > > > > > Me(3) Ve(3) in Sagitarius (9th House) Pts: 29

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mo(6) Asc in Capricorn (10th House) Pts: 28

> > > > > > > > Mar(3) transit thru Aq. (11th House) Pts: 29

> > > > > > > > Pi (12th House) pts:32

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Event No. 5

> > > > > > > > ************************************

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Job1 End 03-Oct-2003

> > > > > > > > Total SAV Pts: 233

> > > > > > > > Ju(7) + Sat(5) = 12

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ra transit Aries (First House) Pts: 28

> > > > > > > > 2nd House with 34 points

> > > > > > > > Sa(5) Thru Gemini (3rd House) Pts: 24

> > > > > > > > (4th House) Pts: 34

> > > > > > > > Ju(7) thru Leo (Fifth House) Pts: 24

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Su(7) Me(7) Ve(6) in (6th House) Pts:23

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke in Libra (Seventh House) Pts: 27

> > > > > > > > Asc in 8th House with 25 points

> > > > > > > > Mo(3) transit Sagitarius (9th House) Pts: 29

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > (10th House) Pts: 28

> > > > > > > > Mar(3) transit thru Aq. (11th House) Pts: 29

> > > > > > > > Pi (12th House) pts:32

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Event No. 6

> > > > > > > > ************************************

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Job1: Start: 21-Oct-2002

> > > > > > > > Total SAV Pts: 221

> > > > > > > > Ju(5) + Sat(5) = 10

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mo(3) transit Aries (First House) Pts: 28

> > > > > > > > Ra transit thru Taurus (2nd House) Pts: 34

> > > > > > > > SaR(5) Thru Gemini (3rd House) Pts: 24

> > > > > > > > Ju(5) thru Cancer (4th House) Pts: 34

> > > > > > > > (Fifth House) Pts: 24

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Me(7) Ma(6) transit Vi (6th House) Pts: 23 Got a Job

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > VeR(5) Sun(4) Thru Li (7th House) pts:23

> > > > > > > > Ke in Sc (8th House) pts:25

> > > > > > > > Asc in Sagitarius (9th House) Pts: 29

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > (10th House) Pts: 28

> > > > > > > > Aq. (11th House) Pts: 29

> > > > > > > > Pi (12th House) pts:32

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ************************************

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ********************************************

> > > > > > > > Now, Do I need to verify or rectify time? Just in

case

> > the

> > > > > > > following

> > > > > > > > are other events:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Event No. 7 Married 24-Feb-1989

> > > > > > > > Event No. 8 Travelled Overseas June-26-1991

> > > > > > > > Event No. 9 Birth of Daughter July-26-1991

> > > > > > > > Event No. 10 Birth of Son Feb-11-1994

> > > > > > > > Event No. 11 Birth of Daughter Jan-07-1998

> > > > > > > > Event No. 12 Emotionally Disturbed June 2001 thru Aug

> 2002

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please give me some pointers to continue my study.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Krishna

> > > > > > > > , Ash

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Kris,

> > > > > > > > > Job is 6th house and Authority is 10th house,

income

> is

> > > > 11th

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > expenditure is 12th.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > For a start, as per your life and your job history,

> see

> > > > > which

> > > > > > > > antras u got the jobs in and then study the points of

> > 2nd,

> > > > > 6th,

> > > > > > > 10th,

> > > > > > > > 11th and 12th.

> > > > > > > > > Ideally you should study all 12 houses but these

> houses

> > > > > > > > particularly have a lot of say in matters of job,

> > > authority,

> > > > > > > wealth,

> > > > > > > > income expenditure.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > For happiness in job and authoirty check if u took

> jobs

> > > in

> > > > > high

> > > > > > > > points for 6th house and at the same time u had good

> > > > authority

> > > > > > > i.e.

> > > > > > > > 10th house points were high also. See your income

> w.r.t.

> > > > > > > authority

> > > > > > > > i.e. 10th and 11th points u can compare i.e. effort u

> put

> > > in

> > > > > v/s

> > > > > > > > income and then expenditure.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So like that u check and please give feedback. This

> > > will

> > > > > also

> > > > > > > be a

> > > > > > > > good check for your birth time accuracy.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > Ash

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > gdplus1 wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Respected gurus and list members,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This my first attempt at understanding and

> interpreting

> > > and

> > > > > > > trying

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > time the next job i.e., probable time.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have entered the details into KAS spreadsheet and

> > > these

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > the my

> > > > > > > > > observations for 10th house, Dasamsa and Natural

and

> > > > > Functional

> > > > > > > > Karakas:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The combinations of Significators for any events

for

> > > > current

> > > > > > > transit

> > > > > > > > > date are Moon and Saturn.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The 10th House worksheet points are: (Sun is Nat.

and

> > > Func.

> > > > > > > Karaka)

> > > > > > > > > Me 17

> > > > > > > > > Ve 17

> > > > > > > > > Mo 16

> > > > > > > > > Ju 15

> > > > > > > > > Ma 14

> > > > > > > > > Su 12

> > > > > > > > > Sa 09 ( Less than 12 )

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Current Dashas are Rahu/Rahu 1st Sector 2005-Jan-18

> > thru

> > > > > 2005-

> > > > > > > Dec-12

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > From Natal SAV Chart for 10th House in 10th Sign Cp

> the

> > > > > points

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > Su 3

> > > > > > > > > Mo 6

> > > > > > > > > Ma 4

> > > > > > > > > Me 5

> > > > > > > > > Ju 4

> > > > > > > > > Ve 4

> > > > > > > > > Sa 2

> > > > > > > > > ------

> > > > > > > > > Total 28

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > From Summary Worksheet: For 10th House:

> > > > > > > > > L12 is Ju, LD is Ve and LE is Me

> > > > > > > > > LA is Su, LB is Sa and LC is Ve

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The native details:

> > > > > > > > > DOB: 1961-12-09

> > > > > > > > > TOB: 15:25:50

> > > > > > > > > Lat: 17N15

> > > > > > > > > Lon: 80E11

> > > > > > > > > IST: -5:30

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Can somebody help me step by step in timing with

the

> > > above

> > > > > > > details

> > > > > > > > > given? Please help me in further analysis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Kris

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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