Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Updating Lesson 31 on Delays Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala, Gita, Ramesh, NS, Harjeet & other members, Sorry for intruding into your precious time and giving unwarranted advice.. Lesson 31 on delays is outdated. Lot of new points have come up. I personally feel that it is required to be updated with all the details to assess the delays properly. Otherwise the new comers to the group and even old persons like me who are not energetic and healthy enough to search all the archives to find all new points, will be misled to apply the KAS rules for finding the delay. Since you are all energetic, enthusiastic & participative, I request you to please study all the achieves and consolidate all the rules so far experienced for assessing the delay, if required taking some more points from Shri Krushnaji. and update the Lesson 31 on delays. I know you are all busy with your work & job, but still this is required to be done. Probably you all can give your update lesson 31 to Ash and he can consolidate them into a nice lesson covering all points so far dealt with in the discussions. After I joined the group recently, I myself found lot of new points for assessing delays in addition to those mentioned in Lesson 31, which I noted in one folder. Some of them, with my limited energy & health, I try to give below for your ready reference: to include in the new lesson 31, after your correction. Saturn full delay occurs in Rasi when Saturn aspects A, B, & C or LoA, LoB & LoC or aspects two of them being in the third one or being the lord of third one ..In Navamsa, Saturn aspects A, B, & C or aspects LoA, LoB & LoC of Rasi in Navamsa or aspects one or two of them in Rasi and the rest of lords in Rasi in Navamsa. There is no delay due to aspect on lords of A, B, C in Navamsa. There will be delay if Saturn aspects LoA & LoB in Rasi and aspects LoC of Rasi in Navamsa. The same rule applies to Jupiter delay also. except C & LoC are not required. There will be delay due to Jupiter if Jupiter is itself LoB or aspects LoB in Rasi and aspects LoA in Rasi in Navamsa. For example, for Gemini lagna, Jupiter is LoB for 7th house & LoA is Moon in Rasi and if Jupiter in Navamsa aspects Moon in Navamsa , there will be delay due to Jupiter. Saturn delay ends when Saturn enters during transit into the sign behind the sign of the natal or birth chart Saturn. Jupiter delay ends when Jupiter enters during transit into the sign of natal or birth chart Jupiter. When the delays occur simultaneously, Saturn delay is first taken and then Jupiter delay is added after the delay of Saturn till Jupiter enters during transit into the 7th house and/or 7th lord house and/or aspects the 7th house and/or 7th lord house (I am not sure of this!). Jupiter will cancel the delay due to Saturn if Jupiter beneficially aspects Saturn or with Saturn. (more clear explanation required what is meant by beneficially aspect- Jupiter should have less than 4 points in its BAV when it directly aspects Saturn by 7th aspect or more than 4 points in its BAV when it aspects Saturn by its 5th or 9th aspect??). Jupiter will not cancel the delay of Saturn when Jupiter is in the sign or star of Saturn in Rasi or with Saturn in Navamsa. Or 6th lord or in Libra in Rasi or Navamsa. For example, if Jupiter is in Aries and Saturn in Libra in Rasi and if Jupiter is in Navmsa of Libra, Jupiter will not cancel delay due to Saturn. If Jupiter is in Libra & Saturn in Aries, Jupiter will not cancel delay of Saturn or add Jupiter delay to the delay of Saturn ( not sure of this !).. If the 1st & 9th lords are in 5:9 positions in Rasi or Navamsa, the delays due to Jupiter and Saturn will be cancelled. not sure of this !). If Saturn or Jupiter is LoD or LoE or in D or E or there is one zero in SAV, the delay will be restricted to the first sector of the suitable AD. If there are two zeros in SAV, the second sector is selected. If there is full delay due to Saturn or there are three zeros in SAV, the third sector is taken in the suitable AD. The delays should not be taken partly in Rasi and partly in Navamsa. Whatever little I noticed, I had given. I might have missed some other points from other old archives. Please correct, edit or delete if not Ok. Hope this helps. Sorry if I am intruding into your business. Blessings Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu 11May2006 " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " PEMMARAJU V.R. RAYUDU B.E.,M.Tech., Dip.(Management & French) International Consultant & Researcher- Astrology Former Dy.Director, Defence R & D Laboratory.,Govt. of India 67 Vinayanagar, Saidabad, Hyderabad-500059,A.P. India, Phone: +91-040-24530210 & Mobile 9347844971 Email: pvrrayudu: pvrrayudu; pvrrayudu Web: http://www.rayuduastrology.com Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Hello Rayudu garu I think that the statement : * " Saturn delay ends when Saturn enters during transit into the sign behind the sign of the natal or birth chart Saturn. " * is a little inappropriate(Do correct me if I am wrong). When Saturn causes a delay then the number of degrees travelled by saturn (in the sign) in the rasi chart should be checked. The number of degrees travelled by saturn gives the number of years of delay. e.g. If Saturn is in 232 degrees in the rasi chart, the sign is Scorpio and saturn has travelled 22 degrees in Scorpio(Starting degree of scorpio being 210 degrees). Then the delay period is 22 years. Other members - correct me if wrong. regards, Amitabh. On 5/10/06, Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Updating Lesson 31 on Delays > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala, Gita, Ramesh, NS, Harjeet & other members, > > Sorry for intruding into your precious time and giving unwarranted > advice.. > > Lesson 31 on delays is outdated. Lot of new points have come up. I > personally feel that it is required to be updated with all the details to > assess the delays properly. Otherwise the new comers to the group and even > old persons like me who are not energetic and healthy enough to search all > the archives to find all new points, will be misled to apply the KAS rules > for finding the delay. Since you are all energetic, enthusiastic & > participative, I request you to please study all the achieves and > consolidate all the rules so far experienced for assessing the delay, if > required taking some more points from Shri Krushnaji. and update the Lesson > 31 on delays. I know you are all busy with your work & job, but still this > is required to be done. Probably you all can give your update lesson 31 to > Ash and he can consolidate them into a nice lesson covering all points so > far dealt with in the discussions. > After I joined the group recently, I myself found lot of new points for > assessing delays in addition to those mentioned in Lesson 31, which I noted > in one folder. Some of them, with my limited energy & health, I try to give > below for your ready reference: to include in the new lesson 31, after your > correction. > > Saturn full delay occurs in Rasi when Saturn aspects A, B, & C or LoA, LoB > & LoC or aspects two of them being in the third one or being the lord of > third one .In Navamsa, Saturn aspects A, B, & C or aspects LoA, LoB & LoC of > Rasi in Navamsa or aspects one or two of them in Rasi and the rest of lords > in Rasi in Navamsa. There is no delay due to aspect on lords of A, B, C in > Navamsa. There will be delay if Saturn aspects LoA & LoB in Rasi and aspects > LoC of Rasi in Navamsa. The same rule applies to Jupiter delay also. except > C & LoC are not required. There will be delay due to Jupiter if Jupiter is > itself LoB or aspects LoB in Rasi and aspects LoA in Rasi in Navamsa. For > example, for Gemini lagna, Jupiter is LoB for 7th house & LoA is Moon in > Rasi and if Jupiter in Navamsa aspects Moon in Navamsa , there will be delay > due to Jupiter. > > Saturn delay ends when Saturn enters during transit into the sign behind > the sign of the natal or birth chart Saturn. Jupiter delay ends when Jupiter > enters during transit into the sign of natal or birth chart Jupiter. When > the delays occur simultaneously, Saturn delay is first taken and then > Jupiter delay is added after the delay of Saturn till Jupiter enters during > transit into the 7th house and/or 7th lord house and/or aspects the 7th > house and/or 7th lord house (I am not sure of this!). > > Jupiter will cancel the delay due to Saturn if Jupiter beneficially > aspects Saturn or with Saturn. (more clear explanation required what is > meant by beneficially aspect- Jupiter should have less than 4 points in its > BAV when it directly aspects Saturn by 7th aspect or more than 4 points in > its BAV when it aspects Saturn by its 5th or 9th aspect??). > > Jupiter will not cancel the delay of Saturn when Jupiter is in the sign or > star of Saturn in Rasi or with Saturn in Navamsa. Or 6th lord or in Libra in > Rasi or Navamsa. For example, if Jupiter is in Aries and Saturn in Libra in > Rasi and if Jupiter is in Navmsa of Libra, Jupiter will not cancel delay due > to Saturn. If Jupiter is in Libra & Saturn in Aries, Jupiter will not cancel > delay of Saturn or add Jupiter delay to the delay of Saturn ( not sure of > this !).. > > If the 1st & 9th lords are in 5:9 positions in Rasi or Navamsa, the delays > due to Jupiter and Saturn will be cancelled. not sure of this !). > > If Saturn or Jupiter is LoD or LoE or in D or E or there is one zero in > SAV, the delay will be restricted to the first sector of the suitable AD. If > there are two zeros in SAV, the second sector is selected. If there is full > delay due to Saturn or there are three zeros in SAV, the third sector is > taken in the suitable AD. > > The delays should not be taken partly in Rasi and partly in Navamsa. > > Whatever little I noticed, I had given. I might have missed some other > points from other old archives. Please correct, edit or delete if not Ok. > Hope this helps. > Sorry if I am intruding into your business. > > Blessings > Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu > 11May2006 > > > " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " > PEMMARAJU V.R. RAYUDU B.E.,M.Tech., Dip.(Management & French) > International Consultant & Researcher- Astrology > Former Dy.Director, Defence R & D Laboratory.,Govt. of India > 67 Vinayanagar, Saidabad, Hyderabad-500059,A.P. India, > Phone: +91-040-24530210 & Mobile 9347844971 > Email: pvrrayudu: pvrrayudu; > pvrrayudu > Web: http://www.rayuduastrology.com > > > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using > Messenger with Voice. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Dear Amitabh, I dont think so would be the case as you are thinking. if it is so then a person born at 1 degree.. in scorpio.. his delay would be over when he becomes one year old? i mean i may be wrong... but thats what i think. Kind regards Harjeet , " Amitabh Choudhury " <amitabh.choudhury wrote: > > Hello Rayudu garu > > I think that the statement : > * " Saturn delay ends when Saturn enters during transit into the sign behind > the sign of the natal or birth chart Saturn. " * > > is a little inappropriate(Do correct me if I am wrong). > > When Saturn causes a delay then the number of degrees travelled by saturn > (in the sign) in the rasi chart should be checked. > > The number of degrees travelled by saturn gives the number of years of > delay. > > e.g. If Saturn is in 232 degrees in the rasi chart, the sign is Scorpio and > saturn has travelled 22 degrees in Scorpio(Starting degree of scorpio being > 210 degrees). > > Then the delay period is 22 years. > > Other members - correct me if wrong. > > regards, > Amitabh. > > > > > On 5/10/06, Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu <pvrrayudu wrote: > > > > Updating Lesson 31 on Delays > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala, Gita, Ramesh, NS, Harjeet & other members, > > > > Sorry for intruding into your precious time and giving unwarranted > > advice.. > > > > Lesson 31 on delays is outdated. Lot of new points have come up. I > > personally feel that it is required to be updated with all the details to > > assess the delays properly. Otherwise the new comers to the group and even > > old persons like me who are not energetic and healthy enough to search all > > the archives to find all new points, will be misled to apply the KAS rules > > for finding the delay. Since you are all energetic, enthusiastic & > > participative, I request you to please study all the achieves and > > consolidate all the rules so far experienced for assessing the delay, if > > required taking some more points from Shri Krushnaji. and update the Lesson > > 31 on delays. I know you are all busy with your work & job, but still this > > is required to be done. Probably you all can give your update lesson 31 to > > Ash and he can consolidate them into a nice lesson covering all points so > > far dealt with in the discussions. > > After I joined the group recently, I myself found lot of new points for > > assessing delays in addition to those mentioned in Lesson 31, which I noted > > in one folder. Some of them, with my limited energy & health, I try to give > > below for your ready reference: to include in the new lesson 31, after your > > correction. > > > > Saturn full delay occurs in Rasi when Saturn aspects A, B, & C or LoA, LoB > > & LoC or aspects two of them being in the third one or being the lord of > > third one .In Navamsa, Saturn aspects A, B, & C or aspects LoA, LoB & LoC of > > Rasi in Navamsa or aspects one or two of them in Rasi and the rest of lords > > in Rasi in Navamsa. There is no delay due to aspect on lords of A, B, C in > > Navamsa. There will be delay if Saturn aspects LoA & LoB in Rasi and aspects > > LoC of Rasi in Navamsa. The same rule applies to Jupiter delay also. except > > C & LoC are not required. There will be delay due to Jupiter if Jupiter is > > itself LoB or aspects LoB in Rasi and aspects LoA in Rasi in Navamsa. For > > example, for Gemini lagna, Jupiter is LoB for 7th house & LoA is Moon in > > Rasi and if Jupiter in Navamsa aspects Moon in Navamsa , there will be delay > > due to Jupiter. > > > > Saturn delay ends when Saturn enters during transit into the sign behind > > the sign of the natal or birth chart Saturn. Jupiter delay ends when Jupiter > > enters during transit into the sign of natal or birth chart Jupiter. When > > the delays occur simultaneously, Saturn delay is first taken and then > > Jupiter delay is added after the delay of Saturn till Jupiter enters during > > transit into the 7th house and/or 7th lord house and/or aspects the 7th > > house and/or 7th lord house (I am not sure of this!). > > > > Jupiter will cancel the delay due to Saturn if Jupiter beneficially > > aspects Saturn or with Saturn. (more clear explanation required what is > > meant by beneficially aspect- Jupiter should have less than 4 points in its > > BAV when it directly aspects Saturn by 7th aspect or more than 4 points in > > its BAV when it aspects Saturn by its 5th or 9th aspect??). > > > > Jupiter will not cancel the delay of Saturn when Jupiter is in the sign or > > star of Saturn in Rasi or with Saturn in Navamsa. Or 6th lord or in Libra in > > Rasi or Navamsa. For example, if Jupiter is in Aries and Saturn in Libra in > > Rasi and if Jupiter is in Navmsa of Libra, Jupiter will not cancel delay due > > to Saturn. If Jupiter is in Libra & Saturn in Aries, Jupiter will not cancel > > delay of Saturn or add Jupiter delay to the delay of Saturn ( not sure of > > this !).. > > > > If the 1st & 9th lords are in 5:9 positions in Rasi or Navamsa, the delays > > due to Jupiter and Saturn will be cancelled. not sure of this !). > > > > If Saturn or Jupiter is LoD or LoE or in D or E or there is one zero in > > SAV, the delay will be restricted to the first sector of the suitable AD. If > > there are two zeros in SAV, the second sector is selected. If there is full > > delay due to Saturn or there are three zeros in SAV, the third sector is > > taken in the suitable AD. > > > > The delays should not be taken partly in Rasi and partly in Navamsa. > > > > Whatever little I noticed, I had given. I might have missed some other > > points from other old archives. Please correct, edit or delete if not Ok. > > Hope this helps. > > Sorry if I am intruding into your business. > > > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu > > 11May2006 > > > > > > " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " > > PEMMARAJU V.R. RAYUDU B.E.,M.Tech., Dip.(Management & French) > > International Consultant & Researcher- Astrology > > Former Dy.Director, Defence R & D Laboratory.,Govt. of India > > 67 Vinayanagar, Saidabad, Hyderabad-500059,A.P. India, > > Phone: +91-040-24530210 & Mobile 9347844971 > > Email: pvrrayudu: pvrrayudu; > > pvrrayudu > > Web: http://www.rayuduastrology.com > > > > > > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using > > Messenger with Voice. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Dear Amitabh, You are not following KAS rules. Please do not mix up with other systems & rules. Blessings Pemmaraju Rayudu Amitabh Choudhury <amitabh.choudhury wrote: Hello Rayudu garu I think that the statement : * " Saturn delay ends when Saturn enters during transit into the sign behind the sign of the natal or birth chart Saturn. " * is a little inappropriate(Do correct me if I am wrong). When Saturn causes a delay then the number of degrees travelled by saturn (in the sign) in the rasi chart should be checked. The number of degrees travelled by saturn gives the number of years of delay. e.g. If Saturn is in 232 degrees in the rasi chart, the sign is Scorpio and saturn has travelled 22 degrees in Scorpio(Starting degree of scorpio being 210 degrees). Then the delay period is 22 years. Other members - correct me if wrong. regards, Amitabh. On 5/10/06, Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Updating Lesson 31 on Delays > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala, Gita, Ramesh, NS, Harjeet & other members, > > Sorry for intruding into your precious time and giving unwarranted > advice.. > > Lesson 31 on delays is outdated. Lot of new points have come up. I > personally feel that it is required to be updated with all the details to > assess the delays properly. Otherwise the new comers to the group and even > old persons like me who are not energetic and healthy enough to search all > the archives to find all new points, will be misled to apply the KAS rules > for finding the delay. Since you are all energetic, enthusiastic & > participative, I request you to please study all the achieves and > consolidate all the rules so far experienced for assessing the delay, if > required taking some more points from Shri Krushnaji. and update the Lesson > 31 on delays. I know you are all busy with your work & job, but still this > is required to be done. Probably you all can give your update lesson 31 to > Ash and he can consolidate them into a nice lesson covering all points so > far dealt with in the discussions. > After I joined the group recently, I myself found lot of new points for > assessing delays in addition to those mentioned in Lesson 31, which I noted > in one folder. Some of them, with my limited energy & health, I try to give > below for your ready reference: to include in the new lesson 31, after your > correction. > > Saturn full delay occurs in Rasi when Saturn aspects A, B, & C or LoA, LoB > & LoC or aspects two of them being in the third one or being the lord of > third one .In Navamsa, Saturn aspects A, B, & C or aspects LoA, LoB & LoC of > Rasi in Navamsa or aspects one or two of them in Rasi and the rest of lords > in Rasi in Navamsa. There is no delay due to aspect on lords of A, B, C in > Navamsa. There will be delay if Saturn aspects LoA & LoB in Rasi and aspects > LoC of Rasi in Navamsa. The same rule applies to Jupiter delay also. except > C & LoC are not required. There will be delay due to Jupiter if Jupiter is > itself LoB or aspects LoB in Rasi and aspects LoA in Rasi in Navamsa. For > example, for Gemini lagna, Jupiter is LoB for 7th house & LoA is Moon in > Rasi and if Jupiter in Navamsa aspects Moon in Navamsa , there will be delay > due to Jupiter. > > Saturn delay ends when Saturn enters during transit into the sign behind > the sign of the natal or birth chart Saturn. Jupiter delay ends when Jupiter > enters during transit into the sign of natal or birth chart Jupiter. When > the delays occur simultaneously, Saturn delay is first taken and then > Jupiter delay is added after the delay of Saturn till Jupiter enters during > transit into the 7th house and/or 7th lord house and/or aspects the 7th > house and/or 7th lord house (I am not sure of this!). > > Jupiter will cancel the delay due to Saturn if Jupiter beneficially > aspects Saturn or with Saturn. (more clear explanation required what is > meant by beneficially aspect- Jupiter should have less than 4 points in its > BAV when it directly aspects Saturn by 7th aspect or more than 4 points in > its BAV when it aspects Saturn by its 5th or 9th aspect??). > > Jupiter will not cancel the delay of Saturn when Jupiter is in the sign or > star of Saturn in Rasi or with Saturn in Navamsa. Or 6th lord or in Libra in > Rasi or Navamsa. For example, if Jupiter is in Aries and Saturn in Libra in > Rasi and if Jupiter is in Navmsa of Libra, Jupiter will not cancel delay due > to Saturn. If Jupiter is in Libra & Saturn in Aries, Jupiter will not cancel > delay of Saturn or add Jupiter delay to the delay of Saturn ( not sure of > this !).. > > If the 1st & 9th lords are in 5:9 positions in Rasi or Navamsa, the delays > due to Jupiter and Saturn will be cancelled. not sure of this !). > > If Saturn or Jupiter is LoD or LoE or in D or E or there is one zero in > SAV, the delay will be restricted to the first sector of the suitable AD. If > there are two zeros in SAV, the second sector is selected. If there is full > delay due to Saturn or there are three zeros in SAV, the third sector is > taken in the suitable AD. > > The delays should not be taken partly in Rasi and partly in Navamsa. > > Whatever little I noticed, I had given. I might have missed some other > points from other old archives. Please correct, edit or delete if not Ok. > Hope this helps. > Sorry if I am intruding into your business. > > Blessings > Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu > 11May2006 > > > " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " > PEMMARAJU V.R. RAYUDU B.E.,M.Tech., Dip.(Management & French) > International Consultant & Researcher- Astrology > Former Dy.Director, Defence R & D Laboratory.,Govt. of India > 67 Vinayanagar, Saidabad, Hyderabad-500059,A.P. India, > Phone: +91-040-24530210 & Mobile 9347844971 > Email: pvrrayudu: pvrrayudu; > pvrrayudu > Web: http://www.rayuduastrology.com > > > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using > Messenger with Voice. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Hello Rayudu garu I havent checked any other system about counting the number of years when there is a delay due to Saturn. I have mentioned the point based on the messagesexchangedduring one of the discussions taken place months back. There was also a reference to a post of Mr. Krushna. Will check the post and inform the points. Ash, Manoshi do you remember the mail exchange? If what I mentioned isnt correct then I apologize. regards, Amitabh. On 5/11/06, harjeet_bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Amitabh, > I dont think so would be the case as you are thinking. > if it is so then a person born at 1 degree.. in scorpio.. his delay > would be over when he becomes one year old? > i mean i may be wrong... but thats what i think. > Kind regards > Harjeet > > , " Amitabh Choudhury " > <amitabh.choudhury wrote: > > > > Hello Rayudu garu > > > > I think that the statement : > > * " Saturn delay ends when Saturn enters during transit into the sign > behind > > the sign of the natal or birth chart Saturn. " * > > > > is a little inappropriate(Do correct me if I am wrong). > > > > When Saturn causes a delay then the number of degrees travelled by > saturn > > (in the sign) in the rasi chart should be checked. > > > > The number of degrees travelled by saturn gives the number of years of > > delay. > > > > e.g. If Saturn is in 232 degrees in the rasi chart, the sign is > Scorpio and > > saturn has travelled 22 degrees in Scorpio(Starting degree of > scorpio being > > 210 degrees). > > > > Then the delay period is 22 years. > > > > Other members - correct me if wrong. > > > > regards, > > Amitabh. > > > > > > > > > > On 5/10/06, Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu <pvrrayudu wrote: > > > > > > Updating Lesson 31 on Delays > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala, Gita, Ramesh, NS, Harjeet & other members, > > > > > > Sorry for intruding into your precious time and giving unwarranted > > > advice.. > > > > > > Lesson 31 on delays is outdated. Lot of new points have come up. I > > > personally feel that it is required to be updated with all the > details to > > > assess the delays properly. Otherwise the new comers to the group > and even > > > old persons like me who are not energetic and healthy enough to > search all > > > the archives to find all new points, will be misled to apply the > KAS rules > > > for finding the delay. Since you are all energetic, enthusiastic & > > > participative, I request you to please study all the achieves and > > > consolidate all the rules so far experienced for assessing the > delay, if > > > required taking some more points from Shri Krushnaji. and update > the Lesson > > > 31 on delays. I know you are all busy with your work & job, but > still this > > > is required to be done. Probably you all can give your update > lesson 31 to > > > Ash and he can consolidate them into a nice lesson covering all > points so > > > far dealt with in the discussions. > > > After I joined the group recently, I myself found lot of new > points for > > > assessing delays in addition to those mentioned in Lesson 31, > which I noted > > > in one folder. Some of them, with my limited energy & health, I > try to give > > > below for your ready reference: to include in the new lesson 31, > after your > > > correction. > > > > > > Saturn full delay occurs in Rasi when Saturn aspects A, B, & C or > LoA, LoB > > > & LoC or aspects two of them being in the third one or being the > lord of > > > third one .In Navamsa, Saturn aspects A, B, & C or aspects LoA, > LoB & LoC of > > > Rasi in Navamsa or aspects one or two of them in Rasi and the rest > of lords > > > in Rasi in Navamsa. There is no delay due to aspect on lords of A, > B, C in > > > Navamsa. There will be delay if Saturn aspects LoA & LoB in Rasi > and aspects > > > LoC of Rasi in Navamsa. The same rule applies to Jupiter delay > also. except > > > C & LoC are not required. There will be delay due to Jupiter if > Jupiter is > > > itself LoB or aspects LoB in Rasi and aspects LoA in Rasi in > Navamsa. For > > > example, for Gemini lagna, Jupiter is LoB for 7th house & LoA is > Moon in > > > Rasi and if Jupiter in Navamsa aspects Moon in Navamsa , there > will be delay > > > due to Jupiter. > > > > > > Saturn delay ends when Saturn enters during transit into the sign > behind > > > the sign of the natal or birth chart Saturn. Jupiter delay ends > when Jupiter > > > enters during transit into the sign of natal or birth chart > Jupiter. When > > > the delays occur simultaneously, Saturn delay is first taken and then > > > Jupiter delay is added after the delay of Saturn till Jupiter > enters during > > > transit into the 7th house and/or 7th lord house and/or aspects > the 7th > > > house and/or 7th lord house (I am not sure of this!). > > > > > > Jupiter will cancel the delay due to Saturn if Jupiter beneficially > > > aspects Saturn or with Saturn. (more clear explanation required > what is > > > meant by beneficially aspect- Jupiter should have less than 4 > points in its > > > BAV when it directly aspects Saturn by 7th aspect or more than 4 > points in > > > its BAV when it aspects Saturn by its 5th or 9th aspect??). > > > > > > Jupiter will not cancel the delay of Saturn when Jupiter is in the > sign or > > > star of Saturn in Rasi or with Saturn in Navamsa. Or 6th lord or > in Libra in > > > Rasi or Navamsa. For example, if Jupiter is in Aries and Saturn in > Libra in > > > Rasi and if Jupiter is in Navmsa of Libra, Jupiter will not cancel > delay due > > > to Saturn. If Jupiter is in Libra & Saturn in Aries, Jupiter will > not cancel > > > delay of Saturn or add Jupiter delay to the delay of Saturn ( not > sure of > > > this !).. > > > > > > If the 1st & 9th lords are in 5:9 positions in Rasi or Navamsa, > the delays > > > due to Jupiter and Saturn will be cancelled. not sure of this !). > > > > > > If Saturn or Jupiter is LoD or LoE or in D or E or there is one > zero in > > > SAV, the delay will be restricted to the first sector of the > suitable AD. If > > > there are two zeros in SAV, the second sector is selected. If > there is full > > > delay due to Saturn or there are three zeros in SAV, the third > sector is > > > taken in the suitable AD. > > > > > > The delays should not be taken partly in Rasi and partly in Navamsa. > > > > > > Whatever little I noticed, I had given. I might have missed some other > > > points from other old archives. Please correct, edit or delete if > not Ok. > > > Hope this helps. > > > Sorry if I am intruding into your business. > > > > > > Blessings > > > Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu > > > 11May2006 > > > > > > > > > " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " > > > PEMMARAJU V.R. RAYUDU B.E.,M.Tech., Dip.(Management & French) > > > International Consultant & Researcher- Astrology > > > Former Dy.Director, Defence R & D Laboratory.,Govt. of India > > > 67 Vinayanagar, Saidabad, Hyderabad-500059,A.P. India, > > > Phone: +91-040-24530210 & Mobile 9347844971 > > > Email: pvrrayudu: pvrrayudu; > > > pvrrayudu > > > Web: http://www.rayuduastrology.com > > > > > > > > > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using > > > > Messenger with Voice. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Sorry Amitabh to misunderstand you. I do not know about this point. May be Ash, Manoshi , Krushnaji himself or others would clarify this point. Blessings Pemmaraju Rayudu 11May 2006 Amitabh Choudhury <amitabh.choudhury wrote: Hello Rayudu garu I havent checked any other system about counting the number of years when there is a delay due to Saturn. I have mentioned the point based on the messagesexchangedduring one of the discussions taken place months back. There was also a reference to a post of Mr. Krushna. Will check the post and inform the points. Ash, Manoshi do you remember the mail exchange? If what I mentioned isnt correct then I apologize. regards, Amitabh. On 5/11/06, harjeet_bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Amitabh, > I dont think so would be the case as you are thinking. > if it is so then a person born at 1 degree.. in scorpio.. his delay > would be over when he becomes one year old? > i mean i may be wrong... but thats what i think. > Kind regards > Harjeet > > , " Amitabh Choudhury " > <amitabh.choudhury wrote: > > > > Hello Rayudu garu > > > > I think that the statement : > > * " Saturn delay ends when Saturn enters during transit into the sign > behind > > the sign of the natal or birth chart Saturn. " * > > > > is a little inappropriate(Do correct me if I am wrong). > > > > When Saturn causes a delay then the number of degrees travelled by > saturn > > (in the sign) in the rasi chart should be checked. > > > > The number of degrees travelled by saturn gives the number of years of > > delay. > > > > e.g. If Saturn is in 232 degrees in the rasi chart, the sign is > Scorpio and > > saturn has travelled 22 degrees in Scorpio(Starting degree of > scorpio being > > 210 degrees). > > > > Then the delay period is 22 years. > > > > Other members - correct me if wrong. > > > > regards, > > Amitabh. > > > > > > > > > > On 5/10/06, Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu <pvrrayudu wrote: > > > > > > Updating Lesson 31 on Delays > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala, Gita, Ramesh, NS, Harjeet & other members, > > > > > > Sorry for intruding into your precious time and giving unwarranted > > > advice.. > > > > > > Lesson 31 on delays is outdated. Lot of new points have come up. I > > > personally feel that it is required to be updated with all the > details to > > > assess the delays properly. Otherwise the new comers to the group > and even > > > old persons like me who are not energetic and healthy enough to > search all > > > the archives to find all new points, will be misled to apply the > KAS rules > > > for finding the delay. Since you are all energetic, enthusiastic & > > > participative, I request you to please study all the achieves and > > > consolidate all the rules so far experienced for assessing the > delay, if > > > required taking some more points from Shri Krushnaji. and update > the Lesson > > > 31 on delays. I know you are all busy with your work & job, but > still this > > > is required to be done. Probably you all can give your update > lesson 31 to > > > Ash and he can consolidate them into a nice lesson covering all > points so > > > far dealt with in the discussions. > > > After I joined the group recently, I myself found lot of new > points for > > > assessing delays in addition to those mentioned in Lesson 31, > which I noted > > > in one folder. Some of them, with my limited energy & health, I > try to give > > > below for your ready reference: to include in the new lesson 31, > after your > > > correction. > > > > > > Saturn full delay occurs in Rasi when Saturn aspects A, B, & C or > LoA, LoB > > > & LoC or aspects two of them being in the third one or being the > lord of > > > third one .In Navamsa, Saturn aspects A, B, & C or aspects LoA, > LoB & LoC of > > > Rasi in Navamsa or aspects one or two of them in Rasi and the rest > of lords > > > in Rasi in Navamsa. There is no delay due to aspect on lords of A, > B, C in > > > Navamsa. There will be delay if Saturn aspects LoA & LoB in Rasi > and aspects > > > LoC of Rasi in Navamsa. The same rule applies to Jupiter delay > also. except > > > C & LoC are not required. There will be delay due to Jupiter if > Jupiter is > > > itself LoB or aspects LoB in Rasi and aspects LoA in Rasi in > Navamsa. For > > > example, for Gemini lagna, Jupiter is LoB for 7th house & LoA is > Moon in > > > Rasi and if Jupiter in Navamsa aspects Moon in Navamsa , there > will be delay > > > due to Jupiter. > > > > > > Saturn delay ends when Saturn enters during transit into the sign > behind > > > the sign of the natal or birth chart Saturn. Jupiter delay ends > when Jupiter > > > enters during transit into the sign of natal or birth chart > Jupiter. When > > > the delays occur simultaneously, Saturn delay is first taken and then > > > Jupiter delay is added after the delay of Saturn till Jupiter > enters during > > > transit into the 7th house and/or 7th lord house and/or aspects > the 7th > > > house and/or 7th lord house (I am not sure of this!). > > > > > > Jupiter will cancel the delay due to Saturn if Jupiter beneficially > > > aspects Saturn or with Saturn. (more clear explanation required > what is > > > meant by beneficially aspect- Jupiter should have less than 4 > points in its > > > BAV when it directly aspects Saturn by 7th aspect or more than 4 > points in > > > its BAV when it aspects Saturn by its 5th or 9th aspect??). > > > > > > Jupiter will not cancel the delay of Saturn when Jupiter is in the > sign or > > > star of Saturn in Rasi or with Saturn in Navamsa. Or 6th lord or > in Libra in > > > Rasi or Navamsa. For example, if Jupiter is in Aries and Saturn in > Libra in > > > Rasi and if Jupiter is in Navmsa of Libra, Jupiter will not cancel > delay due > > > to Saturn. If Jupiter is in Libra & Saturn in Aries, Jupiter will > not cancel > > > delay of Saturn or add Jupiter delay to the delay of Saturn ( not > sure of > > > this !).. > > > > > > If the 1st & 9th lords are in 5:9 positions in Rasi or Navamsa, > the delays > > > due to Jupiter and Saturn will be cancelled. not sure of this !). > > > > > > If Saturn or Jupiter is LoD or LoE or in D or E or there is one > zero in > > > SAV, the delay will be restricted to the first sector of the > suitable AD. If > > > there are two zeros in SAV, the second sector is selected. If > there is full > > > delay due to Saturn or there are three zeros in SAV, the third > sector is > > > taken in the suitable AD. > > > > > > The delays should not be taken partly in Rasi and partly in Navamsa. > > > > > > Whatever little I noticed, I had given. I might have missed some other > > > points from other old archives. Please correct, edit or delete if > not Ok. > > > Hope this helps. > > > Sorry if I am intruding into your business. > > > > > > Blessings > > > Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu > > > 11May2006 > > > > > > > > > " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " > > > PEMMARAJU V.R. RAYUDU B.E.,M.Tech., Dip.(Management & French) > > > International Consultant & Researcher- Astrology > > > Former Dy.Director, Defence R & D Laboratory.,Govt. of India > > > 67 Vinayanagar, Saidabad, Hyderabad-500059,A.P. India, > > > Phone: +91-040-24530210 & Mobile 9347844971 > > > Email: pvrrayudu: pvrrayudu; > > > pvrrayudu > > > Web: http://www.rayuduastrology.com > > > > > > > > > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using > > > > Messenger with Voice. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Hello Rayudu garu I read through the archives and corrected my understanding. The steps mentioned by Manoshi during Feb 2006 is appropriate. Harjeet guess your query is answered. regards, Amitabh. On 5/11/06, Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Sorry Amitabh to misunderstand you. > I do not know about this point. > May be Ash, Manoshi , Krushnaji himself or others would clarify this > point. > Blessings > Pemmaraju Rayudu > 11May 2006 > > > > Amitabh Choudhury <amitabh.choudhury wrote: Hello Rayudu garu > > I havent checked any other system about counting the number of years when > there is a delay due to Saturn. > > I have mentioned the point based on the messagesexchangedduring one of the > discussions taken place months back. There was also a reference to a post > of > Mr. Krushna. > Will check the post and inform the points. > > Ash, Manoshi do you remember the mail exchange? > > If what I mentioned isnt correct then I apologize. > > > regards, > Amitabh. > > > On 5/11/06, harjeet_bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > > > Dear Amitabh, > > I dont think so would be the case as you are thinking. > > if it is so then a person born at 1 degree.. in scorpio.. his delay > > would be over when he becomes one year old? > > i mean i may be wrong... but thats what i think. > > Kind regards > > Harjeet > > > > , " Amitabh Choudhury " > > <amitabh.choudhury wrote: > > > > > > Hello Rayudu garu > > > > > > I think that the statement : > > > * " Saturn delay ends when Saturn enters during transit into the sign > > behind > > > the sign of the natal or birth chart Saturn. " * > > > > > > is a little inappropriate(Do correct me if I am wrong). > > > > > > When Saturn causes a delay then the number of degrees travelled by > > saturn > > > (in the sign) in the rasi chart should be checked. > > > > > > The number of degrees travelled by saturn gives the number of years of > > > delay. > > > > > > e.g. If Saturn is in 232 degrees in the rasi chart, the sign is > > Scorpio and > > > saturn has travelled 22 degrees in Scorpio(Starting degree of > > scorpio being > > > 210 degrees). > > > > > > Then the delay period is 22 years. > > > > > > Other members - correct me if wrong. > > > > > > regards, > > > Amitabh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/10/06, Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu <pvrrayudu wrote: > > > > > > > > Updating Lesson 31 on Delays > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala, Gita, Ramesh, NS, Harjeet & other members, > > > > > > > > Sorry for intruding into your precious time and giving unwarranted > > > > advice.. > > > > > > > > Lesson 31 on delays is outdated. Lot of new points have come up. I > > > > personally feel that it is required to be updated with all the > > details to > > > > assess the delays properly. Otherwise the new comers to the group > > and even > > > > old persons like me who are not energetic and healthy enough to > > search all > > > > the archives to find all new points, will be misled to apply the > > KAS rules > > > > for finding the delay. Since you are all energetic, enthusiastic & > > > > participative, I request you to please study all the achieves and > > > > consolidate all the rules so far experienced for assessing the > > delay, if > > > > required taking some more points from Shri Krushnaji. and update > > the Lesson > > > > 31 on delays. I know you are all busy with your work & job, but > > still this > > > > is required to be done. Probably you all can give your update > > lesson 31 to > > > > Ash and he can consolidate them into a nice lesson covering all > > points so > > > > far dealt with in the discussions. > > > > After I joined the group recently, I myself found lot of new > > points for > > > > assessing delays in addition to those mentioned in Lesson 31, > > which I noted > > > > in one folder. Some of them, with my limited energy & health, I > > try to give > > > > below for your ready reference: to include in the new lesson 31, > > after your > > > > correction. > > > > > > > > Saturn full delay occurs in Rasi when Saturn aspects A, B, & C or > > LoA, LoB > > > > & LoC or aspects two of them being in the third one or being the > > lord of > > > > third one .In Navamsa, Saturn aspects A, B, & C or aspects LoA, > > LoB & LoC of > > > > Rasi in Navamsa or aspects one or two of them in Rasi and the rest > > of lords > > > > in Rasi in Navamsa. There is no delay due to aspect on lords of A, > > B, C in > > > > Navamsa. There will be delay if Saturn aspects LoA & LoB in Rasi > > and aspects > > > > LoC of Rasi in Navamsa. The same rule applies to Jupiter delay > > also. except > > > > C & LoC are not required. There will be delay due to Jupiter if > > Jupiter is > > > > itself LoB or aspects LoB in Rasi and aspects LoA in Rasi in > > Navamsa. For > > > > example, for Gemini lagna, Jupiter is LoB for 7th house & LoA is > > Moon in > > > > Rasi and if Jupiter in Navamsa aspects Moon in Navamsa , there > > will be delay > > > > due to Jupiter. > > > > > > > > Saturn delay ends when Saturn enters during transit into the sign > > behind > > > > the sign of the natal or birth chart Saturn. Jupiter delay ends > > when Jupiter > > > > enters during transit into the sign of natal or birth chart > > Jupiter. When > > > > the delays occur simultaneously, Saturn delay is first taken and > then > > > > Jupiter delay is added after the delay of Saturn till Jupiter > > enters during > > > > transit into the 7th house and/or 7th lord house and/or aspects > > the 7th > > > > house and/or 7th lord house (I am not sure of this!). > > > > > > > > Jupiter will cancel the delay due to Saturn if Jupiter beneficially > > > > aspects Saturn or with Saturn. (more clear explanation required > > what is > > > > meant by beneficially aspect- Jupiter should have less than 4 > > points in its > > > > BAV when it directly aspects Saturn by 7th aspect or more than 4 > > points in > > > > its BAV when it aspects Saturn by its 5th or 9th aspect??). > > > > > > > > Jupiter will not cancel the delay of Saturn when Jupiter is in the > > sign or > > > > star of Saturn in Rasi or with Saturn in Navamsa. Or 6th lord or > > in Libra in > > > > Rasi or Navamsa. For example, if Jupiter is in Aries and Saturn in > > Libra in > > > > Rasi and if Jupiter is in Navmsa of Libra, Jupiter will not cancel > > delay due > > > > to Saturn. If Jupiter is in Libra & Saturn in Aries, Jupiter will > > not cancel > > > > delay of Saturn or add Jupiter delay to the delay of Saturn ( not > > sure of > > > > this !).. > > > > > > > > If the 1st & 9th lords are in 5:9 positions in Rasi or Navamsa, > > the delays > > > > due to Jupiter and Saturn will be cancelled. not sure of this !). > > > > > > > > If Saturn or Jupiter is LoD or LoE or in D or E or there is one > > zero in > > > > SAV, the delay will be restricted to the first sector of the > > suitable AD. If > > > > there are two zeros in SAV, the second sector is selected. If > > there is full > > > > delay due to Saturn or there are three zeros in SAV, the third > > sector is > > > > taken in the suitable AD. > > > > > > > > The delays should not be taken partly in Rasi and partly in Navamsa. > > > > > > > > Whatever little I noticed, I had given. I might have missed some > other > > > > points from other old archives. Please correct, edit or delete if > > not Ok. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Sorry if I am intruding into your business. > > > > > > > > Blessings > > > > Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu > > > > 11May2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " > > > > PEMMARAJU V.R. RAYUDU B.E.,M.Tech., Dip.(Management & French) > > > > International Consultant & Researcher- Astrology > > > > Former Dy.Director, Defence R & D Laboratory.,Govt. of India > > > > 67 Vinayanagar, Saidabad, Hyderabad-500059,A.P. India, > > > > Phone: +91-040-24530210 & Mobile 9347844971 > > > > Email: pvrrayudu: pvrrayudu; > > > > pvrrayudu > > > > Web: http://www.rayuduastrology.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Dear Amitabh, which query ? Thanks/Regards harjeet , " Amitabh Choudhury " <amitabh.choudhury wrote: > > Hello Rayudu garu > > I read through the archives and corrected my understanding. The steps > mentioned by Manoshi during Feb 2006 is appropriate. > > Harjeet guess your query is answered. > > regards, > Amitabh. > > > > On 5/11/06, Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu <pvrrayudu wrote: > > > > Sorry Amitabh to misunderstand you. > > I do not know about this point. > > May be Ash, Manoshi , Krushnaji himself or others would clarify this > > point. > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju Rayudu > > 11May 2006 > > > > > > > > Amitabh Choudhury <amitabh.choudhury wrote: Hello Rayudu garu > > > > I havent checked any other system about counting the number of years when > > there is a delay due to Saturn. > > > > I have mentioned the point based on the messagesexchangedduring one of the > > discussions taken place months back. There was also a reference to a post > > of > > Mr. Krushna. > > Will check the post and inform the points. > > > > Ash, Manoshi do you remember the mail exchange? > > > > If what I mentioned isnt correct then I apologize. > > > > > > regards, > > Amitabh. > > > > > > On 5/11/06, harjeet_bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amitabh, > > > I dont think so would be the case as you are thinking. > > > if it is so then a person born at 1 degree.. in scorpio.. his delay > > > would be over when he becomes one year old? > > > i mean i may be wrong... but thats what i think. > > > Kind regards > > > Harjeet > > > > > > , " Amitabh Choudhury " > > > <amitabh.choudhury@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Rayudu garu > > > > > > > > I think that the statement : > > > > * " Saturn delay ends when Saturn enters during transit into the sign > > > behind > > > > the sign of the natal or birth chart Saturn. " * > > > > > > > > is a little inappropriate(Do correct me if I am wrong). > > > > > > > > When Saturn causes a delay then the number of degrees travelled by > > > saturn > > > > (in the sign) in the rasi chart should be checked. > > > > > > > > The number of degrees travelled by saturn gives the number of years of > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > e.g. If Saturn is in 232 degrees in the rasi chart, the sign is > > > Scorpio and > > > > saturn has travelled 22 degrees in Scorpio(Starting degree of > > > scorpio being > > > > 210 degrees). > > > > > > > > Then the delay period is 22 years. > > > > > > > > Other members - correct me if wrong. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Amitabh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/10/06, Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu <pvrrayudu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Updating Lesson 31 on Delays > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala, Gita, Ramesh, NS, Harjeet & other members, > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for intruding into your precious time and giving unwarranted > > > > > advice.. > > > > > > > > > > Lesson 31 on delays is outdated. Lot of new points have come up. I > > > > > personally feel that it is required to be updated with all the > > > details to > > > > > assess the delays properly. Otherwise the new comers to the group > > > and even > > > > > old persons like me who are not energetic and healthy enough to > > > search all > > > > > the archives to find all new points, will be misled to apply the > > > KAS rules > > > > > for finding the delay. Since you are all energetic, enthusiastic & > > > > > participative, I request you to please study all the achieves and > > > > > consolidate all the rules so far experienced for assessing the > > > delay, if > > > > > required taking some more points from Shri Krushnaji. and update > > > the Lesson > > > > > 31 on delays. I know you are all busy with your work & job, but > > > still this > > > > > is required to be done. Probably you all can give your update > > > lesson 31 to > > > > > Ash and he can consolidate them into a nice lesson covering all > > > points so > > > > > far dealt with in the discussions. > > > > > After I joined the group recently, I myself found lot of new > > > points for > > > > > assessing delays in addition to those mentioned in Lesson 31, > > > which I noted > > > > > in one folder. Some of them, with my limited energy & health, I > > > try to give > > > > > below for your ready reference: to include in the new lesson 31, > > > after your > > > > > correction. > > > > > > > > > > Saturn full delay occurs in Rasi when Saturn aspects A, B, & C or > > > LoA, LoB > > > > > & LoC or aspects two of them being in the third one or being the > > > lord of > > > > > third one .In Navamsa, Saturn aspects A, B, & C or aspects LoA, > > > LoB & LoC of > > > > > Rasi in Navamsa or aspects one or two of them in Rasi and the rest > > > of lords > > > > > in Rasi in Navamsa. There is no delay due to aspect on lords of A, > > > B, C in > > > > > Navamsa. There will be delay if Saturn aspects LoA & LoB in Rasi > > > and aspects > > > > > LoC of Rasi in Navamsa. The same rule applies to Jupiter delay > > > also. except > > > > > C & LoC are not required. There will be delay due to Jupiter if > > > Jupiter is > > > > > itself LoB or aspects LoB in Rasi and aspects LoA in Rasi in > > > Navamsa. For > > > > > example, for Gemini lagna, Jupiter is LoB for 7th house & LoA is > > > Moon in > > > > > Rasi and if Jupiter in Navamsa aspects Moon in Navamsa , there > > > will be delay > > > > > due to Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > Saturn delay ends when Saturn enters during transit into the sign > > > behind > > > > > the sign of the natal or birth chart Saturn. Jupiter delay ends > > > when Jupiter > > > > > enters during transit into the sign of natal or birth chart > > > Jupiter. When > > > > > the delays occur simultaneously, Saturn delay is first taken and > > then > > > > > Jupiter delay is added after the delay of Saturn till Jupiter > > > enters during > > > > > transit into the 7th house and/or 7th lord house and/or aspects > > > the 7th > > > > > house and/or 7th lord house (I am not sure of this!). > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter will cancel the delay due to Saturn if Jupiter beneficially > > > > > aspects Saturn or with Saturn. (more clear explanation required > > > what is > > > > > meant by beneficially aspect- Jupiter should have less than 4 > > > points in its > > > > > BAV when it directly aspects Saturn by 7th aspect or more than 4 > > > points in > > > > > its BAV when it aspects Saturn by its 5th or 9th aspect??). > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter will not cancel the delay of Saturn when Jupiter is in the > > > sign or > > > > > star of Saturn in Rasi or with Saturn in Navamsa. Or 6th lord or > > > in Libra in > > > > > Rasi or Navamsa. For example, if Jupiter is in Aries and Saturn in > > > Libra in > > > > > Rasi and if Jupiter is in Navmsa of Libra, Jupiter will not cancel > > > delay due > > > > > to Saturn. If Jupiter is in Libra & Saturn in Aries, Jupiter will > > > not cancel > > > > > delay of Saturn or add Jupiter delay to the delay of Saturn ( not > > > sure of > > > > > this !).. > > > > > > > > > > If the 1st & 9th lords are in 5:9 positions in Rasi or Navamsa, > > > the delays > > > > > due to Jupiter and Saturn will be cancelled. not sure of this !). > > > > > > > > > > If Saturn or Jupiter is LoD or LoE or in D or E or there is one > > > zero in > > > > > SAV, the delay will be restricted to the first sector of the > > > suitable AD. If > > > > > there are two zeros in SAV, the second sector is selected. If > > > there is full > > > > > delay due to Saturn or there are three zeros in SAV, the third > > > sector is > > > > > taken in the suitable AD. > > > > > > > > > > The delays should not be taken partly in Rasi and partly in Navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > Whatever little I noticed, I had given. I might have missed some > > other > > > > > points from other old archives. Please correct, edit or delete if > > > not Ok. > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > Sorry if I am intruding into your business. > > > > > > > > > > Blessings > > > > > Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu > > > > > 11May2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " > > > > > PEMMARAJU V.R. RAYUDU B.E.,M.Tech., Dip.(Management & French) > > > > > International Consultant & Researcher- Astrology > > > > > Former Dy.Director, Defence R & D Laboratory.,Govt. of India > > > > > 67 Vinayanagar, Saidabad, Hyderabad-500059,A.P. India, > > > > > Phone: +91-040-24530210 & Mobile 9347844971 > > > > > Email: pvrrayudu@: pvrrayudu@; > > > > > pvrrayudu@ > > > > > Web: http://www.rayuduastrology.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Dear Pemmaraju and Amitabh, What Pemmaraju said is correct. Say if Sa is at 24 deg in Libra then delay of Sa will get over when Sa will come to 0 deg Virgo. So what Pemmaraju said is correct. Pleaes refer to discussoins and Manoshi's mails closely. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > > Sorry Amitabh to misunderstand you. > I do not know about this point. > May be Ash, Manoshi , Krushnaji himself or others would clarify this point. > Blessings > Pemmaraju Rayudu > 11May 2006 > > > > Amitabh Choudhury <amitabh.choudhury wrote: Hello Rayudu garu > > I havent checked any other system about counting the number of years when > there is a delay due to Saturn. > > I have mentioned the point based on the messagesexchangedduring one of the > discussions taken place months back. There was also a reference to a post of > Mr. Krushna. > Will check the post and inform the points. > > Ash, Manoshi do you remember the mail exchange? > > If what I mentioned isnt correct then I apologize. > > > regards, > Amitabh. > > > On 5/11/06, harjeet_bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > > > Dear Amitabh, > > I dont think so would be the case as you are thinking. > > if it is so then a person born at 1 degree.. in scorpio.. his delay > > would be over when he becomes one year old? > > i mean i may be wrong... but thats what i think. > > Kind regards > > Harjeet > > > > , " Amitabh Choudhury " > > <amitabh.choudhury@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Rayudu garu > > > > > > I think that the statement : > > > * " Saturn delay ends when Saturn enters during transit into the sign > > behind > > > the sign of the natal or birth chart Saturn. " * > > > > > > is a little inappropriate(Do correct me if I am wrong). > > > > > > When Saturn causes a delay then the number of degrees travelled by > > saturn > > > (in the sign) in the rasi chart should be checked. > > > > > > The number of degrees travelled by saturn gives the number of years of > > > delay. > > > > > > e.g. If Saturn is in 232 degrees in the rasi chart, the sign is > > Scorpio and > > > saturn has travelled 22 degrees in Scorpio(Starting degree of > > scorpio being > > > 210 degrees). > > > > > > Then the delay period is 22 years. > > > > > > Other members - correct me if wrong. > > > > > > regards, > > > Amitabh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/10/06, Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu <pvrrayudu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Updating Lesson 31 on Delays > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala, Gita, Ramesh, NS, Harjeet & other members, > > > > > > > > Sorry for intruding into your precious time and giving unwarranted > > > > advice.. > > > > > > > > Lesson 31 on delays is outdated. Lot of new points have come up. I > > > > personally feel that it is required to be updated with all the > > details to > > > > assess the delays properly. Otherwise the new comers to the group > > and even > > > > old persons like me who are not energetic and healthy enough to > > search all > > > > the archives to find all new points, will be misled to apply the > > KAS rules > > > > for finding the delay. Since you are all energetic, enthusiastic & > > > > participative, I request you to please study all the achieves and > > > > consolidate all the rules so far experienced for assessing the > > delay, if > > > > required taking some more points from Shri Krushnaji. and update > > the Lesson > > > > 31 on delays. I know you are all busy with your work & job, but > > still this > > > > is required to be done. Probably you all can give your update > > lesson 31 to > > > > Ash and he can consolidate them into a nice lesson covering all > > points so > > > > far dealt with in the discussions. > > > > After I joined the group recently, I myself found lot of new > > points for > > > > assessing delays in addition to those mentioned in Lesson 31, > > which I noted > > > > in one folder. Some of them, with my limited energy & health, I > > try to give > > > > below for your ready reference: to include in the new lesson 31, > > after your > > > > correction. > > > > > > > > Saturn full delay occurs in Rasi when Saturn aspects A, B, & C or > > LoA, LoB > > > > & LoC or aspects two of them being in the third one or being the > > lord of > > > > third one .In Navamsa, Saturn aspects A, B, & C or aspects LoA, > > LoB & LoC of > > > > Rasi in Navamsa or aspects one or two of them in Rasi and the rest > > of lords > > > > in Rasi in Navamsa. There is no delay due to aspect on lords of A, > > B, C in > > > > Navamsa. There will be delay if Saturn aspects LoA & LoB in Rasi > > and aspects > > > > LoC of Rasi in Navamsa. The same rule applies to Jupiter delay > > also. except > > > > C & LoC are not required. There will be delay due to Jupiter if > > Jupiter is > > > > itself LoB or aspects LoB in Rasi and aspects LoA in Rasi in > > Navamsa. For > > > > example, for Gemini lagna, Jupiter is LoB for 7th house & LoA is > > Moon in > > > > Rasi and if Jupiter in Navamsa aspects Moon in Navamsa , there > > will be delay > > > > due to Jupiter. > > > > > > > > Saturn delay ends when Saturn enters during transit into the sign > > behind > > > > the sign of the natal or birth chart Saturn. Jupiter delay ends > > when Jupiter > > > > enters during transit into the sign of natal or birth chart > > Jupiter. When > > > > the delays occur simultaneously, Saturn delay is first taken and then > > > > Jupiter delay is added after the delay of Saturn till Jupiter > > enters during > > > > transit into the 7th house and/or 7th lord house and/or aspects > > the 7th > > > > house and/or 7th lord house (I am not sure of this!). > > > > > > > > Jupiter will cancel the delay due to Saturn if Jupiter beneficially > > > > aspects Saturn or with Saturn. (more clear explanation required > > what is > > > > meant by beneficially aspect- Jupiter should have less than 4 > > points in its > > > > BAV when it directly aspects Saturn by 7th aspect or more than 4 > > points in > > > > its BAV when it aspects Saturn by its 5th or 9th aspect??). > > > > > > > > Jupiter will not cancel the delay of Saturn when Jupiter is in the > > sign or > > > > star of Saturn in Rasi or with Saturn in Navamsa. Or 6th lord or > > in Libra in > > > > Rasi or Navamsa. For example, if Jupiter is in Aries and Saturn in > > Libra in > > > > Rasi and if Jupiter is in Navmsa of Libra, Jupiter will not cancel > > delay due > > > > to Saturn. If Jupiter is in Libra & Saturn in Aries, Jupiter will > > not cancel > > > > delay of Saturn or add Jupiter delay to the delay of Saturn ( not > > sure of > > > > this !).. > > > > > > > > If the 1st & 9th lords are in 5:9 positions in Rasi or Navamsa, > > the delays > > > > due to Jupiter and Saturn will be cancelled. not sure of this !). > > > > > > > > If Saturn or Jupiter is LoD or LoE or in D or E or there is one > > zero in > > > > SAV, the delay will be restricted to the first sector of the > > suitable AD. If > > > > there are two zeros in SAV, the second sector is selected. If > > there is full > > > > delay due to Saturn or there are three zeros in SAV, the third > > sector is > > > > taken in the suitable AD. > > > > > > > > The delays should not be taken partly in Rasi and partly in Navamsa. > > > > > > > > Whatever little I noticed, I had given. I might have missed some other > > > > points from other old archives. Please correct, edit or delete if > > not Ok. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Sorry if I am intruding into your business. > > > > > > > > Blessings > > > > Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu > > > > 11May2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " > > > > PEMMARAJU V.R. RAYUDU B.E.,M.Tech., Dip.(Management & French) > > > > International Consultant & Researcher- Astrology > > > > Former Dy.Director, Defence R & D Laboratory.,Govt. of India > > > > 67 Vinayanagar, Saidabad, Hyderabad-500059,A.P. India, > > > > Phone: +91-040-24530210 & Mobile 9347844971 > > > > Email: pvrrayudu@: pvrrayudu@; > > > > pvrrayudu@ > > > > Web: http://www.rayuduastrology.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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