conception time and child birth - Ash/Harjeet (contd.)

May 10, 2006

Regarding childbirth/conception, Venus antra has given the result as

per Harjeet. When I looked closely at the SD relationship between Sun

and Venus I found that apart from being in the same sign, Venus is

also in the nakshtra of Sun. Venus has 18 points in the WS for house

5. So though it aspects house 5, being a strong SD to LoE it has come

forward to give the result.

Is this correct per KAS? Ash, please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks

Gita

, " kaslearner "

<kaslearner wrote:

>

> Dear Ash/Harjeet

>

> Here I have used Ash's rectified time to analyse marriage. I will

> redo the chart again with the orginal time.

>

> There is full delay due to both Saturn and Jupiter.Jupiter aspects

> Saturn in Rasi but will not moderate the delay as Jupiter is in the

> Aquarius (sign of Saturn).Sat-Jup delay will not be nullified as

Lo1

> and Lo9 are not in 5:9 placement.Sat delay ends on 29-May-2000

>

> The next day 30-May-2000 Jupiter is in House 7 and also along with

> Lo7 (Venus). So Jupiter delays ends here.There is a 0 in the SAV

> table. So I consider another 10% delay.Here according to my

> calculation delays ends in the 3rd sector of Venus.Venus antra can

> give marriage being a strong signifactor with 21 points and also

LoE.

>

> But Harjeet's date of marriage falls in the second sector of Venus

> antra. Again this discrepancy could be because of the approximate

> time of birth.

>

> Let me know if this is the right approach.

>

> Thanks

> Gita

>

> , " harjeet_bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > No it was a normal delivery. nothing serious or complicated.

> > Yes u r right i forgot... Lord of D and E points and aspect doesnt

> > matters.

> > venus and sun are in same sign... so would act as samdhari.

> > I would still like to know if you can tell me the sex of the

child

> and

> > the planet or reasons for it.

> > correct me if i am wrong here... for deciding the sex of child.

> > among aspects on 5th house..

> > Moon is malefic with 3 points.

> > Mars has benefic aspect.

> > Sun has malefic aspect.

> > Saturn and venus have neutral sight.

> > also rahu aspects 5th from lagna(rahu and mars aspects 5th.. can

be

> > troublesome during childbirth but wasnt as i think its in males

> chart)

> > 3 planets are male.. 2 are female... mars is more prominent..so i

> > would take it as male from my chart.

> > from my wife's chart.. venus with 6 points in 5th.. i would take

it

> as

> > female.

> > i think i wasnt going to venture anything.. wasnt tensed.. no

rising

> > points for 3,6,10,11 from lagna (natal chart). so less chances

for

> female.

> > i am not drawing conclusions but want to know if my above

analysis

> or

> > reasoning is correct or not.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > , " kaslearner "

> > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Harjeet and Ash,

> > >

> > > SEE MY COMMENTS IN BOLD.

> > > I CASTED THE CHART BASED ON ASH'S RECTIFIED TIME.

> > >

> > > My jupiter is in the sign of saturn.. so even though if it

aspects

> > > saturn i dont know if its able to moderate delay.

> > > I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING JUP IN THE SIGN OF SAT. BUT MAY BE I

> > > OVERLOOKED.

> > >

> > > My date of marriage is : 11th dec 2001.

> > > I WILL CONFIRM THIS FIRST.

> > >

> > > Even i am surprised by the event of child birth..

> > > My marriage was in venus antra... even the conception and child

> birth

> > > was in venus antra too. I dont know if i am right here or not..

> > > venus is samdhari to sun who is the strongest significator...

now

> > > venus antra is before sun so it might have given the result

> before sun

> > > antra..

> > > I WILL LOOK INTO THE SD RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SUN AND VENUS.

> > >

> > > sun anyhow cant give the result on its own as it aspects the

> > > 5th house... from 11th.

> > > SUN IS LOD IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. IT HAS 24 POINTS AND IS A

> STONG

> > > SIGNIFACTOR. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF SUN ASPECTS HOUSE 5. IT

CAN

> > > STILL GIVE THE RESULT.

> > >

> > > now venus itself is hardly having 12 points for 5th house and

also

> > > aspects 5th house from 11th again( i know when venus is acting

as

> > > samdhari its aspect on A B or C shouldnt be considered.. but i

was

> > > confused because the event is occuring before time.)

> > > IF VENUS IS A STRONG SD TO SUN(LOD), I THINK IT CAN GIVE

RESULTS.

> I

> > > AM NOT SURE OF THIS.MAY BE ASH COULD CONFIRM

> > >

> > > from my wife's chart.. birth of child was in mars antra which

is

> lord

> > > of E for 11th house... but again below 12 points i guess.

> > > I may be wrong but Ashji can throw some light on it.. would be

> good

> > > learning experience.

> > > LOW POINTS FOR LOE DOESN'T MATTER IN TIMING THE EVENT.

> > >

> > > I would also curious to know the sex of child if possible... as

i

> dont

> > > know about the nakshatra of moon during conception.

> > > THIS IS MENTIONED IN THE LESSONS. PLEASE READ THEM FOR YOUR

> > > UNDERSTANDING.

> > >

> > > HARJEET,COULD YOU TELL US IF YOUR WIFE HAD A CASEARAN

CHILDBIRTH

> OR

> > > ANY OTHER COMPLICATIONS? THIS IS FOR MY LEARNING.

> > >

> > > SORRY FOR ALL THE CONFUSION.

> > >

> > > THANKS

> > > GITA

> > > > , " kaslearner "

> > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > >

> > > > > Your chart for childbirth has Saturn and Jupiter delay.

> Jupiter

> > > > > aspects Saturn. So there is moderation of delay. This is

> somewhat

> > > > > tricky.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also, your wife was running Jupiter antra around that time

> which

> > > > > doesn't show good points for the 5th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Considering all these factors I am not suprised that my

> answer

> > > was

> > > > > incorrect.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway, please post the answer at your convenience. I will

> look

> > > at

> > > > > this chart later in leisure.

> > > > >

> > > > > Btw could you share your marriage date?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Gita

> > > > > --- In

> , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Gita,

> > > > > > No its not correct. Even if i didnt knew my child's birth

> time

> > > i

> > > > > would

> > > > > > have gone for Sun antra too.

> > > > > > Thanks/Regards

> > > > > > Harjeet

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I haven't looked at your wife's chart and I did a quick

> > > analysis

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > your chart. I think child conception could have occured

> in

> > > the

> > > > > > > second sector of Sun ie 2003-Aug-28 to 2003-Dec-09.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope I haven't overlooked anything. Let me know if

this

> is

> > > > > right.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > Gita

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected list members,

> > > > > > > > If anyone wants to find out antra for conception and

> child

> > > > > birth.

> > > > > > > > if possible let me know the sex fo the child too.

> > > > > > > > MY DOB : 30th sep 1974 / new delhi / time : not

sure...

> > > > > > > > official : 10:40 am & rectified (Ashji) : 11:30 am.

> > > > > > > > Wife DOB: 6th nov 1981 / new delhi / 2:45 am.

> > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards

> > > > > > > > Harjeet

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 11, 2006

Dear Harjeet and Ash,

I was reading through the archives yesterday and I came across an

interesting rule posted by Ash.

" When Guru is in Aquarius and in 20-30 degrees it falls in nakhsatra

ruled by Guru himself. In that case if Guru is Karak and is is in

own nakshatra in sign of Shani then its like 2 factors in pro and 1

in con.. so in that case Guru will check delay of Shani. "

This is applicable to Harjeet's chart for marriage. Here Guru is the

FK and is in the sign of Saturn and Navamsa of Guru himself. So in

this special case Guru will check the delay of Saturn.

I think now the timing will fall into place!!

Regards,

Gita

, " kaslearner "

<kaslearner wrote:

>

> Regarding childbirth/conception, Venus antra has given the result

as

> per Harjeet. When I looked closely at the SD relationship between

Sun

> and Venus I found that apart from being in the same sign, Venus is

> also in the nakshtra of Sun. Venus has 18 points in the WS for

house

> 5. So though it aspects house 5, being a strong SD to LoE it has

come

> forward to give the result.

>

> Is this correct per KAS? Ash, please correct me if I am wrong.

>

> Thanks

> Gita

>

> , " kaslearner "

> <kaslearner@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash/Harjeet

> >

> > Here I have used Ash's rectified time to analyse marriage. I will

> > redo the chart again with the orginal time.

> >

> > There is full delay due to both Saturn and Jupiter.Jupiter

aspects

> > Saturn in Rasi but will not moderate the delay as Jupiter is in

the

> > Aquarius (sign of Saturn).Sat-Jup delay will not be nullified as

> Lo1

> > and Lo9 are not in 5:9 placement.Sat delay ends on 29-May-2000

> >

> > The next day 30-May-2000 Jupiter is in House 7 and also along

with

> > Lo7 (Venus). So Jupiter delays ends here.There is a 0 in the SAV

> > table. So I consider another 10% delay.Here according to my

> > calculation delays ends in the 3rd sector of Venus.Venus antra

can

> > give marriage being a strong signifactor with 21 points and also

> LoE.

> >

> > But Harjeet's date of marriage falls in the second sector of

Venus

> > antra. Again this discrepancy could be because of the approximate

> > time of birth.

> >

> > Let me know if this is the right approach.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Gita

> >

> > , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > No it was a normal delivery. nothing serious or complicated.

> > > Yes u r right i forgot... Lord of D and E points and aspect

doesnt

> > > matters.

> > > venus and sun are in same sign... so would act as samdhari.

> > > I would still like to know if you can tell me the sex of the

> child

> > and

> > > the planet or reasons for it.

> > > correct me if i am wrong here... for deciding the sex of child.

> > > among aspects on 5th house..

> > > Moon is malefic with 3 points.

> > > Mars has benefic aspect.

> > > Sun has malefic aspect.

> > > Saturn and venus have neutral sight.

> > > also rahu aspects 5th from lagna(rahu and mars aspects 5th..

can

> be

> > > troublesome during childbirth but wasnt as i think its in males

> > chart)

> > > 3 planets are male.. 2 are female... mars is more prominent..so

i

> > > would take it as male from my chart.

> > > from my wife's chart.. venus with 6 points in 5th.. i would

take

> it

> > as

> > > female.

> > > i think i wasnt going to venture anything.. wasnt tensed.. no

> rising

> > > points for 3,6,10,11 from lagna (natal chart). so less chances

> for

> > female.

> > > i am not drawing conclusions but want to know if my above

> analysis

> > or

> > > reasoning is correct or not.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > , " kaslearner "

> > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Harjeet and Ash,

> > > >

> > > > SEE MY COMMENTS IN BOLD.

> > > > I CASTED THE CHART BASED ON ASH'S RECTIFIED TIME.

> > > >

> > > > My jupiter is in the sign of saturn.. so even though if it

> aspects

> > > > saturn i dont know if its able to moderate delay.

> > > > I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING JUP IN THE SIGN OF SAT. BUT MAY BE I

> > > > OVERLOOKED.

> > > >

> > > > My date of marriage is : 11th dec 2001.

> > > > I WILL CONFIRM THIS FIRST.

> > > >

> > > > Even i am surprised by the event of child birth..

> > > > My marriage was in venus antra... even the conception and

child

> > birth

> > > > was in venus antra too. I dont know if i am right here or

not..

> > > > venus is samdhari to sun who is the strongest significator...

> now

> > > > venus antra is before sun so it might have given the result

> > before sun

> > > > antra..

> > > > I WILL LOOK INTO THE SD RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SUN AND VENUS.

> > > >

> > > > sun anyhow cant give the result on its own as it aspects the

> > > > 5th house... from 11th.

> > > > SUN IS LOD IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. IT HAS 24 POINTS AND IS A

> > STONG

> > > > SIGNIFACTOR. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF SUN ASPECTS HOUSE 5. IT

> CAN

> > > > STILL GIVE THE RESULT.

> > > >

> > > > now venus itself is hardly having 12 points for 5th house and

> also

> > > > aspects 5th house from 11th again( i know when venus is

acting

> as

> > > > samdhari its aspect on A B or C shouldnt be considered.. but

i

> was

> > > > confused because the event is occuring before time.)

> > > > IF VENUS IS A STRONG SD TO SUN(LOD), I THINK IT CAN GIVE

> RESULTS.

> > I

> > > > AM NOT SURE OF THIS.MAY BE ASH COULD CONFIRM

> > > >

> > > > from my wife's chart.. birth of child was in mars antra which

> is

> > lord

> > > > of E for 11th house... but again below 12 points i guess.

> > > > I may be wrong but Ashji can throw some light on it.. would

be

> > good

> > > > learning experience.

> > > > LOW POINTS FOR LOE DOESN'T MATTER IN TIMING THE EVENT.

> > > >

> > > > I would also curious to know the sex of child if possible...

as

> i

> > dont

> > > > know about the nakshatra of moon during conception.

> > > > THIS IS MENTIONED IN THE LESSONS. PLEASE READ THEM FOR YOUR

> > > > UNDERSTANDING.

> > > >

> > > > HARJEET,COULD YOU TELL US IF YOUR WIFE HAD A CASEARAN

> CHILDBIRTH

> > OR

> > > > ANY OTHER COMPLICATIONS? THIS IS FOR MY LEARNING.

> > > >

> > > > SORRY FOR ALL THE CONFUSION.

> > > >

> > > > THANKS

> > > > GITA

> > > > > --- In

, " kaslearner "

> > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your chart for childbirth has Saturn and Jupiter delay.

> > Jupiter

> > > > > > aspects Saturn. So there is moderation of delay. This is

> > somewhat

> > > > > > tricky.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also, your wife was running Jupiter antra around that

time

> > which

> > > > > > doesn't show good points for the 5th house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Considering all these factors I am not suprised that my

> > answer

> > > > was

> > > > > > incorrect.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anyway, please post the answer at your convenience. I

will

> > look

> > > > at

> > > > > > this chart later in leisure.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Btw could you share your marriage date?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Gita

> > > > > > --- In

> > , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Gita,

> > > > > > > No its not correct. Even if i didnt knew my child's

birth

> > time

> > > > i

> > > > > > would

> > > > > > > have gone for Sun antra too.

> > > > > > > Thanks/Regards

> > > > > > > Harjeet

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I haven't looked at your wife's chart and I did a

quick

> > > > analysis

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > your chart. I think child conception could have

occured

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > second sector of Sun ie 2003-Aug-28 to 2003-Dec-09.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I hope I haven't overlooked anything. Let me know if

> this

> > is

> > > > > > right.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > Gita

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Respected list members,

> > > > > > > > > If anyone wants to find out antra for conception

and

> > child

> > > > > > birth.

> > > > > > > > > if possible let me know the sex fo the child too.

> > > > > > > > > MY DOB : 30th sep 1974 / new delhi / time : not

> sure...

> > > > > > > > > official : 10:40 am & rectified (Ashji) : 11:30 am.

> > > > > > > > > Wife DOB: 6th nov 1981 / new delhi / 2:45 am.

> > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards

> > > > > > > > > Harjeet

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 11, 2006

Dear Gita,

Thanks for all your effort and time for solving the chart.

I am sorry i might not know very well... but my jupiter is in the

nakshatra of Rahu.. yes in navamsa its in own sign Pisces.

i dont want to come up with more confusion but do u think jupiter

being retrograde somehow becomes more strong and helps here.

In some lesson Krushnaji has mentioned that if venus is retrograde..

and even if its within 3 degree of sun it would still have power to

give its effect.

I had chart of another person who had delay from jupiter but still had

marriage before the delay was over. i might be going wrong somewhere

with the analysis for sure ... this person also has jupiter

retrograde... i mean i might be wrong here and dont want to add

confusion or come up with things which are not given in lessons... but

it was just a thought that came in my mind.

thanks/regards

harjeet

, " kaslearner "

<kaslearner wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet and Ash,

>

> I was reading through the archives yesterday and I came across an

> interesting rule posted by Ash.

>

> " When Guru is in Aquarius and in 20-30 degrees it falls in nakhsatra

> ruled by Guru himself. In that case if Guru is Karak and is is in

> own nakshatra in sign of Shani then its like 2 factors in pro and 1

> in con.. so in that case Guru will check delay of Shani. "

>

> This is applicable to Harjeet's chart for marriage. Here Guru is the

> FK and is in the sign of Saturn and Navamsa of Guru himself. So in

> this special case Guru will check the delay of Saturn.

>

> I think now the timing will fall into place!!

>

> Regards,

> Gita

> , " kaslearner "

> <kaslearner@> wrote:

> >

> > Regarding childbirth/conception, Venus antra has given the result

> as

> > per Harjeet. When I looked closely at the SD relationship between

> Sun

> > and Venus I found that apart from being in the same sign, Venus is

> > also in the nakshtra of Sun. Venus has 18 points in the WS for

> house

> > 5. So though it aspects house 5, being a strong SD to LoE it has

> come

> > forward to give the result.

> >

> > Is this correct per KAS? Ash, please correct me if I am wrong.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Gita

> >

> > , " kaslearner "

> > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash/Harjeet

> > >

> > > Here I have used Ash's rectified time to analyse marriage. I will

> > > redo the chart again with the orginal time.

> > >

> > > There is full delay due to both Saturn and Jupiter.Jupiter

> aspects

> > > Saturn in Rasi but will not moderate the delay as Jupiter is in

> the

> > > Aquarius (sign of Saturn).Sat-Jup delay will not be nullified as

> > Lo1

> > > and Lo9 are not in 5:9 placement.Sat delay ends on 29-May-2000

> > >

> > > The next day 30-May-2000 Jupiter is in House 7 and also along

> with

> > > Lo7 (Venus). So Jupiter delays ends here.There is a 0 in the SAV

> > > table. So I consider another 10% delay.Here according to my

> > > calculation delays ends in the 3rd sector of Venus.Venus antra

> can

> > > give marriage being a strong signifactor with 21 points and also

> > LoE.

> > >

> > > But Harjeet's date of marriage falls in the second sector of

> Venus

> > > antra. Again this discrepancy could be because of the approximate

> > > time of birth.

> > >

> > > Let me know if this is the right approach.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Gita

> > >

> > > , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > No it was a normal delivery. nothing serious or complicated.

> > > > Yes u r right i forgot... Lord of D and E points and aspect

> doesnt

> > > > matters.

> > > > venus and sun are in same sign... so would act as samdhari.

> > > > I would still like to know if you can tell me the sex of the

> > child

> > > and

> > > > the planet or reasons for it.

> > > > correct me if i am wrong here... for deciding the sex of child.

> > > > among aspects on 5th house..

> > > > Moon is malefic with 3 points.

> > > > Mars has benefic aspect.

> > > > Sun has malefic aspect.

> > > > Saturn and venus have neutral sight.

> > > > also rahu aspects 5th from lagna(rahu and mars aspects 5th..

> can

> > be

> > > > troublesome during childbirth but wasnt as i think its in males

> > > chart)

> > > > 3 planets are male.. 2 are female... mars is more prominent..so

> i

> > > > would take it as male from my chart.

> > > > from my wife's chart.. venus with 6 points in 5th.. i would

> take

> > it

> > > as

> > > > female.

> > > > i think i wasnt going to venture anything.. wasnt tensed.. no

> > rising

> > > > points for 3,6,10,11 from lagna (natal chart). so less chances

> > for

> > > female.

> > > > i am not drawing conclusions but want to know if my above

> > analysis

> > > or

> > > > reasoning is correct or not.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > , " kaslearner "

> > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Harjeet and Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > SEE MY COMMENTS IN BOLD.

> > > > > I CASTED THE CHART BASED ON ASH'S RECTIFIED TIME.

> > > > >

> > > > > My jupiter is in the sign of saturn.. so even though if it

> > aspects

> > > > > saturn i dont know if its able to moderate delay.

> > > > > I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING JUP IN THE SIGN OF SAT. BUT MAY BE I

> > > > > OVERLOOKED.

> > > > >

> > > > > My date of marriage is : 11th dec 2001.

> > > > > I WILL CONFIRM THIS FIRST.

> > > > >

> > > > > Even i am surprised by the event of child birth..

> > > > > My marriage was in venus antra... even the conception and

> child

> > > birth

> > > > > was in venus antra too. I dont know if i am right here or

> not..

> > > > > venus is samdhari to sun who is the strongest significator...

> > now

> > > > > venus antra is before sun so it might have given the result

> > > before sun

> > > > > antra..

> > > > > I WILL LOOK INTO THE SD RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SUN AND VENUS.

> > > > >

> > > > > sun anyhow cant give the result on its own as it aspects the

> > > > > 5th house... from 11th.

> > > > > SUN IS LOD IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. IT HAS 24 POINTS AND IS A

> > > STONG

> > > > > SIGNIFACTOR. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF SUN ASPECTS HOUSE 5. IT

> > CAN

> > > > > STILL GIVE THE RESULT.

> > > > >

> > > > > now venus itself is hardly having 12 points for 5th house and

> > also

> > > > > aspects 5th house from 11th again( i know when venus is

> acting

> > as

> > > > > samdhari its aspect on A B or C shouldnt be considered.. but

> i

> > was

> > > > > confused because the event is occuring before time.)

> > > > > IF VENUS IS A STRONG SD TO SUN(LOD), I THINK IT CAN GIVE

> > RESULTS.

> > > I

> > > > > AM NOT SURE OF THIS.MAY BE ASH COULD CONFIRM

> > > > >

> > > > > from my wife's chart.. birth of child was in mars antra which

> > is

> > > lord

> > > > > of E for 11th house... but again below 12 points i guess.

> > > > > I may be wrong but Ashji can throw some light on it.. would

> be

> > > good

> > > > > learning experience.

> > > > > LOW POINTS FOR LOE DOESN'T MATTER IN TIMING THE EVENT.

> > > > >

> > > > > I would also curious to know the sex of child if possible...

> as

> > i

> > > dont

> > > > > know about the nakshatra of moon during conception.

> > > > > THIS IS MENTIONED IN THE LESSONS. PLEASE READ THEM FOR YOUR

> > > > > UNDERSTANDING.

> > > > >

> > > > > HARJEET,COULD YOU TELL US IF YOUR WIFE HAD A CASEARAN

> > CHILDBIRTH

> > > OR

> > > > > ANY OTHER COMPLICATIONS? THIS IS FOR MY LEARNING.

> > > > >

> > > > > SORRY FOR ALL THE CONFUSION.

> > > > >

> > > > > THANKS

> > > > > GITA

> > > > > > --- In

> , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Your chart for childbirth has Saturn and Jupiter delay.

> > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > aspects Saturn. So there is moderation of delay. This is

> > > somewhat

> > > > > > > tricky.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also, your wife was running Jupiter antra around that

> time

> > > which

> > > > > > > doesn't show good points for the 5th house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Considering all these factors I am not suprised that my

> > > answer

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > incorrect.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Anyway, please post the answer at your convenience. I

> will

> > > look

> > > > > at

> > > > > > > this chart later in leisure.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Btw could you share your marriage date?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > Gita

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Gita,

> > > > > > > > No its not correct. Even if i didnt knew my child's

> birth

> > > time

> > > > > i

> > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > have gone for Sun antra too.

> > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards

> > > > > > > > Harjeet

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I haven't looked at your wife's chart and I did a

> quick

> > > > > analysis

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > your chart. I think child conception could have

> occured

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > second sector of Sun ie 2003-Aug-28 to 2003-Dec-09.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I hope I haven't overlooked anything. Let me know if

> > this

> > > is

> > > > > > > right.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > Gita

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Respected list members,

> > > > > > > > > > If anyone wants to find out antra for conception

> and

> > > child

> > > > > > > birth.

> > > > > > > > > > if possible let me know the sex fo the child too.

> > > > > > > > > > MY DOB : 30th sep 1974 / new delhi / time : not

> > sure...

> > > > > > > > > > official : 10:40 am & rectified (Ashji) : 11:30 am.

> > > > > > > > > > Wife DOB: 6th nov 1981 / new delhi / 2:45 am.

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Harjeet

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 11, 2006

Dear Harjeet,

SEE MY COMMENTS BELOW IN BOLD.

Thanks for all your effort and time for solving the chart.

YOU ARE WELCOME. I AM LEARNING A FEW THINGS FROM YOUR CHART. SO I

GUESS IT IS GOOD FOR ME TOO.

> I am sorry i might not know very well... but my jupiter is in the

> nakshatra of Rahu.. yes in navamsa its in own sign Pisces.

HERE " IN ITS OWN NAKSHTRA " I THINK ASH MEANS IN ITS OWN SIGN IN

NAVAMSA, NOT NAKSHTRA AS IN RASI. ASH CAN EXPLAIN THIS RULE BETTER.

> i dont want to come up with more confusion but do u think jupiter

> being retrograde somehow becomes more strong and helps here.

> In some lesson Krushnaji has mentioned that if venus is retrograde..

> and even if its within 3 degree of sun it would still have power to

> give its effect.

I AM NOT AWARE ABOUT RULES FOR " RETROGRADE JUPITER "

> I had chart of another person who had delay from jupiter but still

had marriage before the delay was over. i might be going wrong

somewhere with the analysis for sure ... this person also has jupiter

> retrograde...

MARRIAGE COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WHEN DELAY IS NOT OVER. MAY BE THE

CHART NEEDS TIME RECTIFICATION OR YOU HAVE OVERLOOKED DELAY BEING

NULLIFIED OR MODERATED.

IN ANYCASE PLEASE POST THE DETAILS OF THE CHART AND YOUR EXPLAINATION

ALONG WITH YOUR QUESTIONS. THE GROUP CAN THEN ANALYSE ABOUT THE

EXCEPTIONS.

i mean i might be wrong here and dont want to add

confusion or come up with things which are not given in lessons...

but it was just a thought that came in my mind.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

REGARDS

GITA

> , " kaslearner "

> <kaslearner@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet and Ash,

> >

> > I was reading through the archives yesterday and I came across an

> > interesting rule posted by Ash.

> >

> > " When Guru is in Aquarius and in 20-30 degrees it falls in

nakhsatra ruled by Guru himself. In that case if Guru is Karak and

is is in own nakshatra in sign of Shani then its like 2 factors in

pro and 1 in con.. so in that case Guru will check delay of Shani. "

> >

> > This is applicable to Harjeet's chart for marriage. Here Guru is

the

> > FK and is in the sign of Saturn and Navamsa of Guru himself. So

in

> > this special case Guru will check the delay of Saturn.

> >

> > I think now the timing will fall into place!!

> >

> > Regards,

> > Gita

> > , " kaslearner "

> > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Regarding childbirth/conception, Venus antra has given the

result

> > as

> > > per Harjeet. When I looked closely at the SD relationship

between

> > Sun

> > > and Venus I found that apart from being in the same sign, Venus

is

> > > also in the nakshtra of Sun. Venus has 18 points in the WS for

> > house

> > > 5. So though it aspects house 5, being a strong SD to LoE it

has

> > come

> > > forward to give the result.

> > >

> > > Is this correct per KAS? Ash, please correct me if I am wrong.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Gita

> > >

> > > , " kaslearner "

> > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash/Harjeet

> > > >

> > > > Here I have used Ash's rectified time to analyse marriage. I

will

> > > > redo the chart again with the orginal time.

> > > >

> > > > There is full delay due to both Saturn and Jupiter.Jupiter

> > aspects

> > > > Saturn in Rasi but will not moderate the delay as Jupiter is

in

> > the

> > > > Aquarius (sign of Saturn).Sat-Jup delay will not be nullified

as

> > > Lo1

> > > > and Lo9 are not in 5:9 placement.Sat delay ends on 29-May-2000

> > > >

> > > > The next day 30-May-2000 Jupiter is in House 7 and also along

> > with

> > > > Lo7 (Venus). So Jupiter delays ends here.There is a 0 in the

SAV

> > > > table. So I consider another 10% delay.Here according to my

> > > > calculation delays ends in the 3rd sector of Venus.Venus

antra

> > can

> > > > give marriage being a strong signifactor with 21 points and

also

> > > LoE.

> > > >

> > > > But Harjeet's date of marriage falls in the second sector of

> > Venus

> > > > antra. Again this discrepancy could be because of the

approximate

> > > > time of birth.

> > > >

> > > > Let me know if this is the right approach.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Gita

> > > >

> > > > --- In

, " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > No it was a normal delivery. nothing serious or complicated.

> > > > > Yes u r right i forgot... Lord of D and E points and aspect

> > doesnt

> > > > > matters.

> > > > > venus and sun are in same sign... so would act as samdhari.

> > > > > I would still like to know if you can tell me the sex of

the

> > > child

> > > > and

> > > > > the planet or reasons for it.

> > > > > correct me if i am wrong here... for deciding the sex of

child.

> > > > > among aspects on 5th house..

> > > > > Moon is malefic with 3 points.

> > > > > Mars has benefic aspect.

> > > > > Sun has malefic aspect.

> > > > > Saturn and venus have neutral sight.

> > > > > also rahu aspects 5th from lagna(rahu and mars aspects

5th..

> > can

> > > be

> > > > > troublesome during childbirth but wasnt as i think its in

males

> > > > chart)

> > > > > 3 planets are male.. 2 are female... mars is more

prominent..so

> > i

> > > > > would take it as male from my chart.

> > > > > from my wife's chart.. venus with 6 points in 5th.. i would

> > take

> > > it

> > > > as

> > > > > female.

> > > > > i think i wasnt going to venture anything.. wasnt tensed..

no

> > > rising

> > > > > points for 3,6,10,11 from lagna (natal chart). so less

chances

> > > for

> > > > female.

> > > > > i am not drawing conclusions but want to know if my above

> > > analysis

> > > > or

> > > > > reasoning is correct or not.

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

, " kaslearner "

> > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SEE MY COMMENTS IN BOLD.

> > > > > > I CASTED THE CHART BASED ON ASH'S RECTIFIED TIME.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My jupiter is in the sign of saturn.. so even though if

it

> > > aspects

> > > > > > saturn i dont know if its able to moderate delay.

> > > > > > I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING JUP IN THE SIGN OF SAT. BUT MAY

BE I

> > > > > > OVERLOOKED.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My date of marriage is : 11th dec 2001.

> > > > > > I WILL CONFIRM THIS FIRST.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Even i am surprised by the event of child birth..

> > > > > > My marriage was in venus antra... even the conception and

> > child

> > > > birth

> > > > > > was in venus antra too. I dont know if i am right here or

> > not..

> > > > > > venus is samdhari to sun who is the strongest

significator...

> > > now

> > > > > > venus antra is before sun so it might have given the

result

> > > > before sun

> > > > > > antra..

> > > > > > I WILL LOOK INTO THE SD RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SUN AND

VENUS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sun anyhow cant give the result on its own as it aspects

the

> > > > > > 5th house... from 11th.

> > > > > > SUN IS LOD IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. IT HAS 24 POINTS AND

IS A

> > > > STONG

> > > > > > SIGNIFACTOR. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF SUN ASPECTS HOUSE 5.

IT

> > > CAN

> > > > > > STILL GIVE THE RESULT.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > now venus itself is hardly having 12 points for 5th house

and

> > > also

> > > > > > aspects 5th house from 11th again( i know when venus is

> > acting

> > > as

> > > > > > samdhari its aspect on A B or C shouldnt be considered..

but

> > i

> > > was

> > > > > > confused because the event is occuring before time.)

> > > > > > IF VENUS IS A STRONG SD TO SUN(LOD), I THINK IT CAN GIVE

> > > RESULTS.

> > > > I

> > > > > > AM NOT SURE OF THIS.MAY BE ASH COULD CONFIRM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > from my wife's chart.. birth of child was in mars antra

which

> > > is

> > > > lord

> > > > > > of E for 11th house... but again below 12 points i guess.

> > > > > > I may be wrong but Ashji can throw some light on it..

would

> > be

> > > > good

> > > > > > learning experience.

> > > > > > LOW POINTS FOR LOE DOESN'T MATTER IN TIMING THE EVENT.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I would also curious to know the sex of child if

possible...

> > as

> > > i

> > > > dont

> > > > > > know about the nakshatra of moon during conception.

> > > > > > THIS IS MENTIONED IN THE LESSONS. PLEASE READ THEM FOR

YOUR

> > > > > > UNDERSTANDING.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > HARJEET,COULD YOU TELL US IF YOUR WIFE HAD A CASEARAN

> > > CHILDBIRTH

> > > > OR

> > > > > > ANY OTHER COMPLICATIONS? THIS IS FOR MY LEARNING.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SORRY FOR ALL THE CONFUSION.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > THANKS

> > > > > > GITA

> > > > > > > --- In

> > , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Your chart for childbirth has Saturn and Jupiter

delay.

> > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > aspects Saturn. So there is moderation of delay. This

is

> > > > somewhat

> > > > > > > > tricky.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also, your wife was running Jupiter antra around that

> > time

> > > > which

> > > > > > > > doesn't show good points for the 5th house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Considering all these factors I am not suprised that

my

> > > > answer

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > incorrect.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Anyway, please post the answer at your convenience. I

> > will

> > > > look

> > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > this chart later in leisure.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Btw could you share your marriage date?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > Gita

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Gita,

> > > > > > > > > No its not correct. Even if i didnt knew my child's

> > birth

> > > > time

> > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > have gone for Sun antra too.

> > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards

> > > > > > > > > Harjeet

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I haven't looked at your wife's chart and I did a

> > quick

> > > > > > analysis

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > your chart. I think child conception could have

> > occured

> > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > second sector of Sun ie 2003-Aug-28 to 2003-Dec-

09.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I hope I haven't overlooked anything. Let me know

if

> > > this

> > > > is

> > > > > > > > right.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > Gita

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > >

, " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Respected list members,

> > > > > > > > > > > If anyone wants to find out antra for

conception

> > and

> > > > child

> > > > > > > > birth.

> > > > > > > > > > > if possible let me know the sex fo the child

too.

> > > > > > > > > > > MY DOB : 30th sep 1974 / new delhi / time : not

> > > sure...

> > > > > > > > > > > official : 10:40 am & rectified (Ashji) : 11:30

am.

> > > > > > > > > > > Wife DOB: 6th nov 1981 / new delhi / 2:45 am.

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 11, 2006

thanks very much Gitaji,

I would post the details later... after studying lessons once more and

trying to understand the system better.

regards

Harjeet

, " kaslearner "

<kaslearner wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

>

> SEE MY COMMENTS BELOW IN BOLD.

>

> Thanks for all your effort and time for solving the chart.

> YOU ARE WELCOME. I AM LEARNING A FEW THINGS FROM YOUR CHART. SO I

> GUESS IT IS GOOD FOR ME TOO.

>

> > I am sorry i might not know very well... but my jupiter is in the

> > nakshatra of Rahu.. yes in navamsa its in own sign Pisces.

> HERE " IN ITS OWN NAKSHTRA " I THINK ASH MEANS IN ITS OWN SIGN IN

> NAVAMSA, NOT NAKSHTRA AS IN RASI. ASH CAN EXPLAIN THIS RULE BETTER.

>

> > i dont want to come up with more confusion but do u think jupiter

> > being retrograde somehow becomes more strong and helps here.

> > In some lesson Krushnaji has mentioned that if venus is retrograde..

> > and even if its within 3 degree of sun it would still have power to

> > give its effect.

> I AM NOT AWARE ABOUT RULES FOR " RETROGRADE JUPITER "

>

> > I had chart of another person who had delay from jupiter but still

> had marriage before the delay was over. i might be going wrong

> somewhere with the analysis for sure ... this person also has jupiter

> > retrograde...

> MARRIAGE COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WHEN DELAY IS NOT OVER. MAY BE THE

> CHART NEEDS TIME RECTIFICATION OR YOU HAVE OVERLOOKED DELAY BEING

> NULLIFIED OR MODERATED.

>

> IN ANYCASE PLEASE POST THE DETAILS OF THE CHART AND YOUR EXPLAINATION

> ALONG WITH YOUR QUESTIONS. THE GROUP CAN THEN ANALYSE ABOUT THE

> EXCEPTIONS.

>

> i mean i might be wrong here and dont want to add

> confusion or come up with things which are not given in lessons...

> but it was just a thought that came in my mind.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

>

> REGARDS

> GITA

>

> > , " kaslearner "

> > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet and Ash,

> > >

> > > I was reading through the archives yesterday and I came across an

> > > interesting rule posted by Ash.

> > >

> > > " When Guru is in Aquarius and in 20-30 degrees it falls in

> nakhsatra ruled by Guru himself. In that case if Guru is Karak and

> is is in own nakshatra in sign of Shani then its like 2 factors in

> pro and 1 in con.. so in that case Guru will check delay of Shani. "

> > >

> > > This is applicable to Harjeet's chart for marriage. Here Guru is

> the

> > > FK and is in the sign of Saturn and Navamsa of Guru himself. So

> in

> > > this special case Guru will check the delay of Saturn.

> > >

> > > I think now the timing will fall into place!!

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Gita

> > > , " kaslearner "

> > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Regarding childbirth/conception, Venus antra has given the

> result

> > > as

> > > > per Harjeet. When I looked closely at the SD relationship

> between

> > > Sun

> > > > and Venus I found that apart from being in the same sign, Venus

> is

> > > > also in the nakshtra of Sun. Venus has 18 points in the WS for

> > > house

> > > > 5. So though it aspects house 5, being a strong SD to LoE it

> has

> > > come

> > > > forward to give the result.

> > > >

> > > > Is this correct per KAS? Ash, please correct me if I am wrong.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Gita

> > > >

> > > > , " kaslearner "

> > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash/Harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > Here I have used Ash's rectified time to analyse marriage. I

> will

> > > > > redo the chart again with the orginal time.

> > > > >

> > > > > There is full delay due to both Saturn and Jupiter.Jupiter

> > > aspects

> > > > > Saturn in Rasi but will not moderate the delay as Jupiter is

> in

> > > the

> > > > > Aquarius (sign of Saturn).Sat-Jup delay will not be nullified

> as

> > > > Lo1

> > > > > and Lo9 are not in 5:9 placement.Sat delay ends on 29-May-2000

> > > > >

> > > > > The next day 30-May-2000 Jupiter is in House 7 and also along

> > > with

> > > > > Lo7 (Venus). So Jupiter delays ends here.There is a 0 in the

> SAV

> > > > > table. So I consider another 10% delay.Here according to my

> > > > > calculation delays ends in the 3rd sector of Venus.Venus

> antra

> > > can

> > > > > give marriage being a strong signifactor with 21 points and

> also

> > > > LoE.

> > > > >

> > > > > But Harjeet's date of marriage falls in the second sector of

> > > Venus

> > > > > antra. Again this discrepancy could be because of the

> approximate

> > > > > time of birth.

> > > > >

> > > > > Let me know if this is the right approach.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Gita

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No it was a normal delivery. nothing serious or complicated.

> > > > > > Yes u r right i forgot... Lord of D and E points and aspect

> > > doesnt

> > > > > > matters.

> > > > > > venus and sun are in same sign... so would act as samdhari.

> > > > > > I would still like to know if you can tell me the sex of

> the

> > > > child

> > > > > and

> > > > > > the planet or reasons for it.

> > > > > > correct me if i am wrong here... for deciding the sex of

> child.

> > > > > > among aspects on 5th house..

> > > > > > Moon is malefic with 3 points.

> > > > > > Mars has benefic aspect.

> > > > > > Sun has malefic aspect.

> > > > > > Saturn and venus have neutral sight.

> > > > > > also rahu aspects 5th from lagna(rahu and mars aspects

> 5th..

> > > can

> > > > be

> > > > > > troublesome during childbirth but wasnt as i think its in

> males

> > > > > chart)

> > > > > > 3 planets are male.. 2 are female... mars is more

> prominent..so

> > > i

> > > > > > would take it as male from my chart.

> > > > > > from my wife's chart.. venus with 6 points in 5th.. i would

> > > take

> > > > it

> > > > > as

> > > > > > female.

> > > > > > i think i wasnt going to venture anything.. wasnt tensed..

> no

> > > > rising

> > > > > > points for 3,6,10,11 from lagna (natal chart). so less

> chances

> > > > for

> > > > > female.

> > > > > > i am not drawing conclusions but want to know if my above

> > > > analysis

> > > > > or

> > > > > > reasoning is correct or not.

> > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and Ash,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > SEE MY COMMENTS IN BOLD.

> > > > > > > I CASTED THE CHART BASED ON ASH'S RECTIFIED TIME.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My jupiter is in the sign of saturn.. so even though if

> it

> > > > aspects

> > > > > > > saturn i dont know if its able to moderate delay.

> > > > > > > I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING JUP IN THE SIGN OF SAT. BUT MAY

> BE I

> > > > > > > OVERLOOKED.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My date of marriage is : 11th dec 2001.

> > > > > > > I WILL CONFIRM THIS FIRST.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Even i am surprised by the event of child birth..

> > > > > > > My marriage was in venus antra... even the conception and

> > > child

> > > > > birth

> > > > > > > was in venus antra too. I dont know if i am right here or

> > > not..

> > > > > > > venus is samdhari to sun who is the strongest

> significator...

> > > > now

> > > > > > > venus antra is before sun so it might have given the

> result

> > > > > before sun

> > > > > > > antra..

> > > > > > > I WILL LOOK INTO THE SD RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SUN AND

> VENUS.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sun anyhow cant give the result on its own as it aspects

> the

> > > > > > > 5th house... from 11th.

> > > > > > > SUN IS LOD IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. IT HAS 24 POINTS AND

> IS A

> > > > > STONG

> > > > > > > SIGNIFACTOR. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF SUN ASPECTS HOUSE 5.

> IT

> > > > CAN

> > > > > > > STILL GIVE THE RESULT.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > now venus itself is hardly having 12 points for 5th house

> and

> > > > also

> > > > > > > aspects 5th house from 11th again( i know when venus is

> > > acting

> > > > as

> > > > > > > samdhari its aspect on A B or C shouldnt be considered..

> but

> > > i

> > > > was

> > > > > > > confused because the event is occuring before time.)

> > > > > > > IF VENUS IS A STRONG SD TO SUN(LOD), I THINK IT CAN GIVE

> > > > RESULTS.

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > AM NOT SURE OF THIS.MAY BE ASH COULD CONFIRM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > from my wife's chart.. birth of child was in mars antra

> which

> > > > is

> > > > > lord

> > > > > > > of E for 11th house... but again below 12 points i guess.

> > > > > > > I may be wrong but Ashji can throw some light on it..

> would

> > > be

> > > > > good

> > > > > > > learning experience.

> > > > > > > LOW POINTS FOR LOE DOESN'T MATTER IN TIMING THE EVENT.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I would also curious to know the sex of child if

> possible...

> > > as

> > > > i

> > > > > dont

> > > > > > > know about the nakshatra of moon during conception.

> > > > > > > THIS IS MENTIONED IN THE LESSONS. PLEASE READ THEM FOR

> YOUR

> > > > > > > UNDERSTANDING.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > HARJEET,COULD YOU TELL US IF YOUR WIFE HAD A CASEARAN

> > > > CHILDBIRTH

> > > > > OR

> > > > > > > ANY OTHER COMPLICATIONS? THIS IS FOR MY LEARNING.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > SORRY FOR ALL THE CONFUSION.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > THANKS

> > > > > > > GITA

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Your chart for childbirth has Saturn and Jupiter

> delay.

> > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > aspects Saturn. So there is moderation of delay. This

> is

> > > > > somewhat

> > > > > > > > > tricky.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also, your wife was running Jupiter antra around that

> > > time

> > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > doesn't show good points for the 5th house.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Considering all these factors I am not suprised that

> my

> > > > > answer

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > incorrect.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Anyway, please post the answer at your convenience. I

> > > will

> > > > > look

> > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > this chart later in leisure.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Btw could you share your marriage date?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > Gita

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita,

> > > > > > > > > > No its not correct. Even if i didnt knew my child's

> > > birth

> > > > > time

> > > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > have gone for Sun antra too.

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Harjeet

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I haven't looked at your wife's chart and I did a

> > > quick

> > > > > > > analysis

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > your chart. I think child conception could have

> > > occured

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > second sector of Sun ie 2003-Aug-28 to 2003-Dec-

> 09.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I hope I haven't overlooked anything. Let me know

> if

> > > > this

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > right.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > Gita

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > >

> , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected list members,

> > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone wants to find out antra for

> conception

> > > and

> > > > > child

> > > > > > > > > birth.

> > > > > > > > > > > > if possible let me know the sex fo the child

> too.

> > > > > > > > > > > > MY DOB : 30th sep 1974 / new delhi / time : not

> > > > sure...

> > > > > > > > > > > > official : 10:40 am & rectified (Ashji) : 11:30

> am.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Wife DOB: 6th nov 1981 / new delhi / 2:45 am.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 11, 2006

Dear Gita,

I think, if memory serves me well, that chart I had asked

Krushanji. Can you post the message number. But when u mentioned

that, it struck a bell. I think in that chart Aquairus was 2nd

house and Ju was in nak of Ju. So it was holding a role of being

Karak and also Ju was placed its own nakshtra in house of shani. I

think that was it...

That is not the general rule. As per lessons we say that Ju in the

house of Shani cant check delay of Shani. So that might have just

been an exception to the rule and in that particular case.

Now, I think this was a while back, and I had asked Krushnaji. That

time and at that level of knowledge, I do not know what else

Krushnaji might have studied in the chart which ofcouse would be in

far greater depth.

Hope this back ground helps,

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " kaslearner "

<kaslearner wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

>

> SEE MY COMMENTS BELOW IN BOLD.

>

> Thanks for all your effort and time for solving the chart.

> YOU ARE WELCOME. I AM LEARNING A FEW THINGS FROM YOUR CHART. SO I

> GUESS IT IS GOOD FOR ME TOO.

>

> > I am sorry i might not know very well... but my jupiter is in the

> > nakshatra of Rahu.. yes in navamsa its in own sign Pisces.

> HERE " IN ITS OWN NAKSHTRA " I THINK ASH MEANS IN ITS OWN SIGN IN

> NAVAMSA, NOT NAKSHTRA AS IN RASI. ASH CAN EXPLAIN THIS RULE BETTER.

>

> > i dont want to come up with more confusion but do u think jupiter

> > being retrograde somehow becomes more strong and helps here.

> > In some lesson Krushnaji has mentioned that if venus is

retrograde..

> > and even if its within 3 degree of sun it would still have power

to

> > give its effect.

> I AM NOT AWARE ABOUT RULES FOR " RETROGRADE JUPITER "

>

> > I had chart of another person who had delay from jupiter but

still

> had marriage before the delay was over. i might be going wrong

> somewhere with the analysis for sure ... this person also has

jupiter

> > retrograde...

> MARRIAGE COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WHEN DELAY IS NOT OVER. MAY BE

THE

> CHART NEEDS TIME RECTIFICATION OR YOU HAVE OVERLOOKED DELAY BEING

> NULLIFIED OR MODERATED.

>

> IN ANYCASE PLEASE POST THE DETAILS OF THE CHART AND YOUR

EXPLAINATION

> ALONG WITH YOUR QUESTIONS. THE GROUP CAN THEN ANALYSE ABOUT THE

> EXCEPTIONS.

>

> i mean i might be wrong here and dont want to add

> confusion or come up with things which are not given in lessons...

> but it was just a thought that came in my mind.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

>

> REGARDS

> GITA

>

> > , " kaslearner "

> > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet and Ash,

> > >

> > > I was reading through the archives yesterday and I came across

an

> > > interesting rule posted by Ash.

> > >

> > > " When Guru is in Aquarius and in 20-30 degrees it falls in

> nakhsatra ruled by Guru himself. In that case if Guru is Karak

and

> is is in own nakshatra in sign of Shani then its like 2 factors

in

> pro and 1 in con.. so in that case Guru will check delay of Shani. "

> > >

> > > This is applicable to Harjeet's chart for marriage. Here Guru

is

> the

> > > FK and is in the sign of Saturn and Navamsa of Guru himself.

So

> in

> > > this special case Guru will check the delay of Saturn.

> > >

> > > I think now the timing will fall into place!!

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Gita

> > > , " kaslearner "

> > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Regarding childbirth/conception, Venus antra has given the

> result

> > > as

> > > > per Harjeet. When I looked closely at the SD relationship

> between

> > > Sun

> > > > and Venus I found that apart from being in the same sign,

Venus

> is

> > > > also in the nakshtra of Sun. Venus has 18 points in the WS

for

> > > house

> > > > 5. So though it aspects house 5, being a strong SD to LoE it

> has

> > > come

> > > > forward to give the result.

> > > >

> > > > Is this correct per KAS? Ash, please correct me if I am

wrong.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Gita

> > > >

> > > > --- In

, " kaslearner "

> > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash/Harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > Here I have used Ash's rectified time to analyse marriage.

I

> will

> > > > > redo the chart again with the orginal time.

> > > > >

> > > > > There is full delay due to both Saturn and Jupiter.Jupiter

> > > aspects

> > > > > Saturn in Rasi but will not moderate the delay as Jupiter

is

> in

> > > the

> > > > > Aquarius (sign of Saturn).Sat-Jup delay will not be

nullified

> as

> > > > Lo1

> > > > > and Lo9 are not in 5:9 placement.Sat delay ends on 29-May-

2000

> > > > >

> > > > > The next day 30-May-2000 Jupiter is in House 7 and also

along

> > > with

> > > > > Lo7 (Venus). So Jupiter delays ends here.There is a 0 in

the

> SAV

> > > > > table. So I consider another 10% delay.Here according to

my

> > > > > calculation delays ends in the 3rd sector of Venus.Venus

> antra

> > > can

> > > > > give marriage being a strong signifactor with 21 points

and

> also

> > > > LoE.

> > > > >

> > > > > But Harjeet's date of marriage falls in the second sector

of

> > > Venus

> > > > > antra. Again this discrepancy could be because of the

> approximate

> > > > > time of birth.

> > > > >

> > > > > Let me know if this is the right approach.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Gita

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No it was a normal delivery. nothing serious or

complicated.

> > > > > > Yes u r right i forgot... Lord of D and E points and

aspect

> > > doesnt

> > > > > > matters.

> > > > > > venus and sun are in same sign... so would act as

samdhari.

> > > > > > I would still like to know if you can tell me the sex of

> the

> > > > child

> > > > > and

> > > > > > the planet or reasons for it.

> > > > > > correct me if i am wrong here... for deciding the sex of

> child.

> > > > > > among aspects on 5th house..

> > > > > > Moon is malefic with 3 points.

> > > > > > Mars has benefic aspect.

> > > > > > Sun has malefic aspect.

> > > > > > Saturn and venus have neutral sight.

> > > > > > also rahu aspects 5th from lagna(rahu and mars aspects

> 5th..

> > > can

> > > > be

> > > > > > troublesome during childbirth but wasnt as i think its

in

> males

> > > > > chart)

> > > > > > 3 planets are male.. 2 are female... mars is more

> prominent..so

> > > i

> > > > > > would take it as male from my chart.

> > > > > > from my wife's chart.. venus with 6 points in 5th.. i

would

> > > take

> > > > it

> > > > > as

> > > > > > female.

> > > > > > i think i wasnt going to venture anything.. wasnt

tensed..

> no

> > > > rising

> > > > > > points for 3,6,10,11 from lagna (natal chart). so less

> chances

> > > > for

> > > > > female.

> > > > > > i am not drawing conclusions but want to know if my

above

> > > > analysis

> > > > > or

> > > > > > reasoning is correct or not.

> > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and Ash,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > SEE MY COMMENTS IN BOLD.

> > > > > > > I CASTED THE CHART BASED ON ASH'S RECTIFIED TIME.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My jupiter is in the sign of saturn.. so even though

if

> it

> > > > aspects

> > > > > > > saturn i dont know if its able to moderate delay.

> > > > > > > I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING JUP IN THE SIGN OF SAT. BUT

MAY

> BE I

> > > > > > > OVERLOOKED.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My date of marriage is : 11th dec 2001.

> > > > > > > I WILL CONFIRM THIS FIRST.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Even i am surprised by the event of child birth..

> > > > > > > My marriage was in venus antra... even the conception

and

> > > child

> > > > > birth

> > > > > > > was in venus antra too. I dont know if i am right here

or

> > > not..

> > > > > > > venus is samdhari to sun who is the strongest

> significator...

> > > > now

> > > > > > > venus antra is before sun so it might have given the

> result

> > > > > before sun

> > > > > > > antra..

> > > > > > > I WILL LOOK INTO THE SD RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SUN AND

> VENUS.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sun anyhow cant give the result on its own as it

aspects

> the

> > > > > > > 5th house... from 11th.

> > > > > > > SUN IS LOD IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. IT HAS 24 POINTS

AND

> IS A

> > > > > STONG

> > > > > > > SIGNIFACTOR. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF SUN ASPECTS HOUSE

5.

> IT

> > > > CAN

> > > > > > > STILL GIVE THE RESULT.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > now venus itself is hardly having 12 points for 5th

house

> and

> > > > also

> > > > > > > aspects 5th house from 11th again( i know when venus

is

> > > acting

> > > > as

> > > > > > > samdhari its aspect on A B or C shouldnt be

considered..

> but

> > > i

> > > > was

> > > > > > > confused because the event is occuring before time.)

> > > > > > > IF VENUS IS A STRONG SD TO SUN(LOD), I THINK IT CAN

GIVE

> > > > RESULTS.

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > AM NOT SURE OF THIS.MAY BE ASH COULD CONFIRM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > from my wife's chart.. birth of child was in mars

antra

> which

> > > > is

> > > > > lord

> > > > > > > of E for 11th house... but again below 12 points i

guess.

> > > > > > > I may be wrong but Ashji can throw some light on it..

> would

> > > be

> > > > > good

> > > > > > > learning experience.

> > > > > > > LOW POINTS FOR LOE DOESN'T MATTER IN TIMING THE EVENT.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I would also curious to know the sex of child if

> possible...

> > > as

> > > > i

> > > > > dont

> > > > > > > know about the nakshatra of moon during conception.

> > > > > > > THIS IS MENTIONED IN THE LESSONS. PLEASE READ THEM FOR

> YOUR

> > > > > > > UNDERSTANDING.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > HARJEET,COULD YOU TELL US IF YOUR WIFE HAD A CASEARAN

> > > > CHILDBIRTH

> > > > > OR

> > > > > > > ANY OTHER COMPLICATIONS? THIS IS FOR MY LEARNING.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > SORRY FOR ALL THE CONFUSION.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > THANKS

> > > > > > > GITA

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Your chart for childbirth has Saturn and Jupiter

> delay.

> > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > aspects Saturn. So there is moderation of delay.

This

> is

> > > > > somewhat

> > > > > > > > > tricky.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also, your wife was running Jupiter antra around

that

> > > time

> > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > doesn't show good points for the 5th house.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Considering all these factors I am not suprised

that

> my

> > > > > answer

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > incorrect.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Anyway, please post the answer at your

convenience. I

> > > will

> > > > > look

> > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > this chart later in leisure.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Btw could you share your marriage date?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > Gita

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita,

> > > > > > > > > > No its not correct. Even if i didnt knew my

child's

> > > birth

> > > > > time

> > > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > have gone for Sun antra too.

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Harjeet

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I haven't looked at your wife's chart and I

did a

> > > quick

> > > > > > > analysis

> > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > your chart. I think child conception could

have

> > > occured

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > second sector of Sun ie 2003-Aug-28 to 2003-

Dec-

> 09.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I hope I haven't overlooked anything. Let me

know

> if

> > > > this

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > right.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > Gita

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > >

> , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected list members,

> > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone wants to find out antra for

> conception

> > > and

> > > > > child

> > > > > > > > > birth.

> > > > > > > > > > > > if possible let me know the sex fo the child

> too.

> > > > > > > > > > > > MY DOB : 30th sep 1974 / new delhi / time :

not

> > > > sure...

> > > > > > > > > > > > official : 10:40 am & rectified (Ashji) :

11:30

> am.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Wife DOB: 6th nov 1981 / new delhi / 2:45

am.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 11, 2006

Dear Ash,

Thanks for the quick reply. The message # is 6050. This was a

discussion between you and Manu. Unfortunately there was no example

chart. If you find the chart please post the details.

Regards

Gita

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Gita,

> I think, if memory serves me well, that chart I had asked

> Krushanji. Can you post the message number. But when u mentioned

> that, it struck a bell. I think in that chart Aquairus was 2nd

> house and Ju was in nak of Ju. So it was holding a role of being

> Karak and also Ju was placed its own nakshtra in house of shani. I

> think that was it...

> That is not the general rule. As per lessons we say that Ju in the

> house of Shani cant check delay of Shani. So that might have just

> been an exception to the rule and in that particular case.

> Now, I think this was a while back, and I had asked Krushnaji.

That

> time and at that level of knowledge, I do not know what else

> Krushnaji might have studied in the chart which ofcouse would be in

> far greater depth.

> Hope this back ground helps,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " kaslearner "

> <kaslearner@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> >

> > SEE MY COMMENTS BELOW IN BOLD.

> >

> > Thanks for all your effort and time for solving the chart.

> > YOU ARE WELCOME. I AM LEARNING A FEW THINGS FROM YOUR CHART. SO I

> > GUESS IT IS GOOD FOR ME TOO.

> >

> > > I am sorry i might not know very well... but my jupiter is in

the

> > > nakshatra of Rahu.. yes in navamsa its in own sign Pisces.

> > HERE " IN ITS OWN NAKSHTRA " I THINK ASH MEANS IN ITS OWN SIGN IN

> > NAVAMSA, NOT NAKSHTRA AS IN RASI. ASH CAN EXPLAIN THIS RULE

BETTER.

> >

> > > i dont want to come up with more confusion but do u think

jupiter

> > > being retrograde somehow becomes more strong and helps here.

> > > In some lesson Krushnaji has mentioned that if venus is

> retrograde..

> > > and even if its within 3 degree of sun it would still have

power

> to

> > > give its effect.

> > I AM NOT AWARE ABOUT RULES FOR " RETROGRADE JUPITER "

> >

> > > I had chart of another person who had delay from jupiter but

> still

> > had marriage before the delay was over. i might be going wrong

> > somewhere with the analysis for sure ... this person also has

> jupiter

> > > retrograde...

> > MARRIAGE COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WHEN DELAY IS NOT OVER. MAY BE

> THE

> > CHART NEEDS TIME RECTIFICATION OR YOU HAVE OVERLOOKED DELAY BEING

> > NULLIFIED OR MODERATED.

> >

> > IN ANYCASE PLEASE POST THE DETAILS OF THE CHART AND YOUR

> EXPLAINATION

> > ALONG WITH YOUR QUESTIONS. THE GROUP CAN THEN ANALYSE ABOUT THE

> > EXCEPTIONS.

> >

> > i mean i might be wrong here and dont want to add

> > confusion or come up with things which are not given in

lessons...

> > but it was just a thought that came in my mind.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> >

> > REGARDS

> > GITA

> >

> > > , " kaslearner "

> > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Harjeet and Ash,

> > > >

> > > > I was reading through the archives yesterday and I came

across

> an

> > > > interesting rule posted by Ash.

> > > >

> > > > " When Guru is in Aquarius and in 20-30 degrees it falls in

> > nakhsatra ruled by Guru himself. In that case if Guru is Karak

> and

> > is is in own nakshatra in sign of Shani then its like 2 factors

> in

> > pro and 1 in con.. so in that case Guru will check delay of

Shani. "

> > > >

> > > > This is applicable to Harjeet's chart for marriage. Here Guru

> is

> > the

> > > > FK and is in the sign of Saturn and Navamsa of Guru himself.

> So

> > in

> > > > this special case Guru will check the delay of Saturn.

> > > >

> > > > I think now the timing will fall into place!!

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Gita

> > > > , " kaslearner "

> > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Regarding childbirth/conception, Venus antra has given the

> > result

> > > > as

> > > > > per Harjeet. When I looked closely at the SD relationship

> > between

> > > > Sun

> > > > > and Venus I found that apart from being in the same sign,

> Venus

> > is

> > > > > also in the nakshtra of Sun. Venus has 18 points in the WS

> for

> > > > house

> > > > > 5. So though it aspects house 5, being a strong SD to LoE

it

> > has

> > > > come

> > > > > forward to give the result.

> > > > >

> > > > > Is this correct per KAS? Ash, please correct me if I am

> wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Gita

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> , " kaslearner "

> > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash/Harjeet

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here I have used Ash's rectified time to analyse

marriage.

> I

> > will

> > > > > > redo the chart again with the orginal time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There is full delay due to both Saturn and

Jupiter.Jupiter

> > > > aspects

> > > > > > Saturn in Rasi but will not moderate the delay as Jupiter

> is

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > Aquarius (sign of Saturn).Sat-Jup delay will not be

> nullified

> > as

> > > > > Lo1

> > > > > > and Lo9 are not in 5:9 placement.Sat delay ends on 29-May-

> 2000

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The next day 30-May-2000 Jupiter is in House 7 and also

> along

> > > > with

> > > > > > Lo7 (Venus). So Jupiter delays ends here.There is a 0 in

> the

> > SAV

> > > > > > table. So I consider another 10% delay.Here according to

> my

> > > > > > calculation delays ends in the 3rd sector of Venus.Venus

> > antra

> > > > can

> > > > > > give marriage being a strong signifactor with 21 points

> and

> > also

> > > > > LoE.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But Harjeet's date of marriage falls in the second sector

> of

> > > > Venus

> > > > > > antra. Again this discrepancy could be because of the

> > approximate

> > > > > > time of birth.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let me know if this is the right approach.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Gita

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > No it was a normal delivery. nothing serious or

> complicated.

> > > > > > > Yes u r right i forgot... Lord of D and E points and

> aspect

> > > > doesnt

> > > > > > > matters.

> > > > > > > venus and sun are in same sign... so would act as

> samdhari.

> > > > > > > I would still like to know if you can tell me the sex

of

> > the

> > > > > child

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > the planet or reasons for it.

> > > > > > > correct me if i am wrong here... for deciding the sex

of

> > child.

> > > > > > > among aspects on 5th house..

> > > > > > > Moon is malefic with 3 points.

> > > > > > > Mars has benefic aspect.

> > > > > > > Sun has malefic aspect.

> > > > > > > Saturn and venus have neutral sight.

> > > > > > > also rahu aspects 5th from lagna(rahu and mars aspects

> > 5th..

> > > > can

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > troublesome during childbirth but wasnt as i think its

> in

> > males

> > > > > > chart)

> > > > > > > 3 planets are male.. 2 are female... mars is more

> > prominent..so

> > > > i

> > > > > > > would take it as male from my chart.

> > > > > > > from my wife's chart.. venus with 6 points in 5th.. i

> would

> > > > take

> > > > > it

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > female.

> > > > > > > i think i wasnt going to venture anything.. wasnt

> tensed..

> > no

> > > > > rising

> > > > > > > points for 3,6,10,11 from lagna (natal chart). so less

> > chances

> > > > > for

> > > > > > female.

> > > > > > > i am not drawing conclusions but want to know if my

> above

> > > > > analysis

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > reasoning is correct or not.

> > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and Ash,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > SEE MY COMMENTS IN BOLD.

> > > > > > > > I CASTED THE CHART BASED ON ASH'S RECTIFIED TIME.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My jupiter is in the sign of saturn.. so even though

> if

> > it

> > > > > aspects

> > > > > > > > saturn i dont know if its able to moderate delay.

> > > > > > > > I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING JUP IN THE SIGN OF SAT. BUT

> MAY

> > BE I

> > > > > > > > OVERLOOKED.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My date of marriage is : 11th dec 2001.

> > > > > > > > I WILL CONFIRM THIS FIRST.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Even i am surprised by the event of child birth..

> > > > > > > > My marriage was in venus antra... even the conception

> and

> > > > child

> > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > was in venus antra too. I dont know if i am right

here

> or

> > > > not..

> > > > > > > > venus is samdhari to sun who is the strongest

> > significator...

> > > > > now

> > > > > > > > venus antra is before sun so it might have given the

> > result

> > > > > > before sun

> > > > > > > > antra..

> > > > > > > > I WILL LOOK INTO THE SD RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SUN AND

> > VENUS.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sun anyhow cant give the result on its own as it

> aspects

> > the

> > > > > > > > 5th house... from 11th.

> > > > > > > > SUN IS LOD IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. IT HAS 24 POINTS

> AND

> > IS A

> > > > > > STONG

> > > > > > > > SIGNIFACTOR. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF SUN ASPECTS

HOUSE

> 5.

> > IT

> > > > > CAN

> > > > > > > > STILL GIVE THE RESULT.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > now venus itself is hardly having 12 points for 5th

> house

> > and

> > > > > also

> > > > > > > > aspects 5th house from 11th again( i know when venus

> is

> > > > acting

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > > samdhari its aspect on A B or C shouldnt be

> considered..

> > but

> > > > i

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > > confused because the event is occuring before time.)

> > > > > > > > IF VENUS IS A STRONG SD TO SUN(LOD), I THINK IT CAN

> GIVE

> > > > > RESULTS.

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > AM NOT SURE OF THIS.MAY BE ASH COULD CONFIRM

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > from my wife's chart.. birth of child was in mars

> antra

> > which

> > > > > is

> > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > of E for 11th house... but again below 12 points i

> guess.

> > > > > > > > I may be wrong but Ashji can throw some light on it..

> > would

> > > > be

> > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > learning experience.

> > > > > > > > LOW POINTS FOR LOE DOESN'T MATTER IN TIMING THE EVENT.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I would also curious to know the sex of child if

> > possible...

> > > > as

> > > > > i

> > > > > > dont

> > > > > > > > know about the nakshatra of moon during conception.

> > > > > > > > THIS IS MENTIONED IN THE LESSONS. PLEASE READ THEM

FOR

> > YOUR

> > > > > > > > UNDERSTANDING.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > HARJEET,COULD YOU TELL US IF YOUR WIFE HAD A CASEARAN

> > > > > CHILDBIRTH

> > > > > > OR

> > > > > > > > ANY OTHER COMPLICATIONS? THIS IS FOR MY LEARNING.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > SORRY FOR ALL THE CONFUSION.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > THANKS

> > > > > > > > GITA

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Your chart for childbirth has Saturn and Jupiter

> > delay.

> > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > aspects Saturn. So there is moderation of delay.

> This

> > is

> > > > > > somewhat

> > > > > > > > > > tricky.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Also, your wife was running Jupiter antra around

> that

> > > > time

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > doesn't show good points for the 5th house.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Considering all these factors I am not suprised

> that

> > my

> > > > > > answer

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > incorrect.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Anyway, please post the answer at your

> convenience. I

> > > > will

> > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > this chart later in leisure.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Btw could you share your marriage date?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > Gita

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > >

, " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita,

> > > > > > > > > > > No its not correct. Even if i didnt knew my

> child's

> > > > birth

> > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > > have gone for Sun antra too.

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't looked at your wife's chart and I

> did a

> > > > quick

> > > > > > > > analysis

> > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > your chart. I think child conception could

> have

> > > > occured

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > second sector of Sun ie 2003-Aug-28 to 2003-

> Dec-

> > 09.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I hope I haven't overlooked anything. Let me

> know

> > if

> > > > > this

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > right.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > Gita

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > >

> > , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected list members,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone wants to find out antra for

> > conception

> > > > and

> > > > > > child

> > > > > > > > > > birth.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > if possible let me know the sex fo the

child

> > too.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > MY DOB : 30th sep 1974 / new delhi / time :

> not

> > > > > sure...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > official : 10:40 am & rectified (Ashji) :

> 11:30

> > am.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Wife DOB: 6th nov 1981 / new delhi / 2:45

> am.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

May 11, 2006

one more question...

if jupiter only(not saturn) gives delay aspecting A and B or lord of B

and A in rashi.. and if jupiter happens to be lord of D or E.. would

it negate the delay of jupiter..

i know it shouldnt but asked for confirming.

thanks/regards

harjeet

, " kaslearner "

<kaslearner wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

>

> Thanks for the quick reply. The message # is 6050. This was a

> discussion between you and Manu. Unfortunately there was no example

> chart. If you find the chart please post the details.

>

> Regards

> Gita

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gita,

> > I think, if memory serves me well, that chart I had asked

> > Krushanji. Can you post the message number. But when u mentioned

> > that, it struck a bell. I think in that chart Aquairus was 2nd

> > house and Ju was in nak of Ju. So it was holding a role of being

> > Karak and also Ju was placed its own nakshtra in house of shani. I

> > think that was it...

> > That is not the general rule. As per lessons we say that Ju in the

> > house of Shani cant check delay of Shani. So that might have just

> > been an exception to the rule and in that particular case.

> > Now, I think this was a while back, and I had asked Krushnaji.

> That

> > time and at that level of knowledge, I do not know what else

> > Krushnaji might have studied in the chart which ofcouse would be in

> > far greater depth.

> > Hope this back ground helps,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " kaslearner "

> > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet,

> > >

> > > SEE MY COMMENTS BELOW IN BOLD.

> > >

> > > Thanks for all your effort and time for solving the chart.

> > > YOU ARE WELCOME. I AM LEARNING A FEW THINGS FROM YOUR CHART. SO I

> > > GUESS IT IS GOOD FOR ME TOO.

> > >

> > > > I am sorry i might not know very well... but my jupiter is in

> the

> > > > nakshatra of Rahu.. yes in navamsa its in own sign Pisces.

> > > HERE " IN ITS OWN NAKSHTRA " I THINK ASH MEANS IN ITS OWN SIGN IN

> > > NAVAMSA, NOT NAKSHTRA AS IN RASI. ASH CAN EXPLAIN THIS RULE

> BETTER.

> > >

> > > > i dont want to come up with more confusion but do u think

> jupiter

> > > > being retrograde somehow becomes more strong and helps here.

> > > > In some lesson Krushnaji has mentioned that if venus is

> > retrograde..

> > > > and even if its within 3 degree of sun it would still have

> power

> > to

> > > > give its effect.

> > > I AM NOT AWARE ABOUT RULES FOR " RETROGRADE JUPITER "

> > >

> > > > I had chart of another person who had delay from jupiter but

> > still

> > > had marriage before the delay was over. i might be going wrong

> > > somewhere with the analysis for sure ... this person also has

> > jupiter

> > > > retrograde...

> > > MARRIAGE COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WHEN DELAY IS NOT OVER. MAY BE

> > THE

> > > CHART NEEDS TIME RECTIFICATION OR YOU HAVE OVERLOOKED DELAY BEING

> > > NULLIFIED OR MODERATED.

> > >

> > > IN ANYCASE PLEASE POST THE DETAILS OF THE CHART AND YOUR

> > EXPLAINATION

> > > ALONG WITH YOUR QUESTIONS. THE GROUP CAN THEN ANALYSE ABOUT THE

> > > EXCEPTIONS.

> > >

> > > i mean i might be wrong here and dont want to add

> > > confusion or come up with things which are not given in

> lessons...

> > > but it was just a thought that came in my mind.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > >

> > > REGARDS

> > > GITA

> > >

> > > > , " kaslearner "

> > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Harjeet and Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > I was reading through the archives yesterday and I came

> across

> > an

> > > > > interesting rule posted by Ash.

> > > > >

> > > > > " When Guru is in Aquarius and in 20-30 degrees it falls in

> > > nakhsatra ruled by Guru himself. In that case if Guru is Karak

> > and

> > > is is in own nakshatra in sign of Shani then its like 2 factors

> > in

> > > pro and 1 in con.. so in that case Guru will check delay of

> Shani. "

> > > > >

> > > > > This is applicable to Harjeet's chart for marriage. Here Guru

> > is

> > > the

> > > > > FK and is in the sign of Saturn and Navamsa of Guru himself.

> > So

> > > in

> > > > > this special case Guru will check the delay of Saturn.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think now the timing will fall into place!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Gita

> > > > > , " kaslearner "

> > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regarding childbirth/conception, Venus antra has given the

> > > result

> > > > > as

> > > > > > per Harjeet. When I looked closely at the SD relationship

> > > between

> > > > > Sun

> > > > > > and Venus I found that apart from being in the same sign,

> > Venus

> > > is

> > > > > > also in the nakshtra of Sun. Venus has 18 points in the WS

> > for

> > > > > house

> > > > > > 5. So though it aspects house 5, being a strong SD to LoE

> it

> > > has

> > > > > come

> > > > > > forward to give the result.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is this correct per KAS? Ash, please correct me if I am

> > wrong.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Gita

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash/Harjeet

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here I have used Ash's rectified time to analyse

> marriage.

> > I

> > > will

> > > > > > > redo the chart again with the orginal time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There is full delay due to both Saturn and

> Jupiter.Jupiter

> > > > > aspects

> > > > > > > Saturn in Rasi but will not moderate the delay as Jupiter

> > is

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > Aquarius (sign of Saturn).Sat-Jup delay will not be

> > nullified

> > > as

> > > > > > Lo1

> > > > > > > and Lo9 are not in 5:9 placement.Sat delay ends on 29-May-

> > 2000

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The next day 30-May-2000 Jupiter is in House 7 and also

> > along

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > Lo7 (Venus). So Jupiter delays ends here.There is a 0 in

> > the

> > > SAV

> > > > > > > table. So I consider another 10% delay.Here according to

> > my

> > > > > > > calculation delays ends in the 3rd sector of Venus.Venus

> > > antra

> > > > > can

> > > > > > > give marriage being a strong signifactor with 21 points

> > and

> > > also

> > > > > > LoE.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But Harjeet's date of marriage falls in the second sector

> > of

> > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > antra. Again this discrepancy could be because of the

> > > approximate

> > > > > > > time of birth.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let me know if this is the right approach.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > Gita

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > No it was a normal delivery. nothing serious or

> > complicated.

> > > > > > > > Yes u r right i forgot... Lord of D and E points and

> > aspect

> > > > > doesnt

> > > > > > > > matters.

> > > > > > > > venus and sun are in same sign... so would act as

> > samdhari.

> > > > > > > > I would still like to know if you can tell me the sex

> of

> > > the

> > > > > > child

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > the planet or reasons for it.

> > > > > > > > correct me if i am wrong here... for deciding the sex

> of

> > > child.

> > > > > > > > among aspects on 5th house..

> > > > > > > > Moon is malefic with 3 points.

> > > > > > > > Mars has benefic aspect.

> > > > > > > > Sun has malefic aspect.

> > > > > > > > Saturn and venus have neutral sight.

> > > > > > > > also rahu aspects 5th from lagna(rahu and mars aspects

> > > 5th..

> > > > > can

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > troublesome during childbirth but wasnt as i think its

> > in

> > > males

> > > > > > > chart)

> > > > > > > > 3 planets are male.. 2 are female... mars is more

> > > prominent..so

> > > > > i

> > > > > > > > would take it as male from my chart.

> > > > > > > > from my wife's chart.. venus with 6 points in 5th.. i

> > would

> > > > > take

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > female.

> > > > > > > > i think i wasnt going to venture anything.. wasnt

> > tensed..

> > > no

> > > > > > rising

> > > > > > > > points for 3,6,10,11 from lagna (natal chart). so less

> > > chances

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > female.

> > > > > > > > i am not drawing conclusions but want to know if my

> > above

> > > > > > analysis

> > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > reasoning is correct or not.

> > > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and Ash,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > SEE MY COMMENTS IN BOLD.

> > > > > > > > > I CASTED THE CHART BASED ON ASH'S RECTIFIED TIME.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My jupiter is in the sign of saturn.. so even though

> > if

> > > it

> > > > > > aspects

> > > > > > > > > saturn i dont know if its able to moderate delay.

> > > > > > > > > I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING JUP IN THE SIGN OF SAT. BUT

> > MAY

> > > BE I

> > > > > > > > > OVERLOOKED.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My date of marriage is : 11th dec 2001.

> > > > > > > > > I WILL CONFIRM THIS FIRST.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Even i am surprised by the event of child birth..

> > > > > > > > > My marriage was in venus antra... even the conception

> > and

> > > > > child

> > > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > was in venus antra too. I dont know if i am right

> here

> > or

> > > > > not..

> > > > > > > > > venus is samdhari to sun who is the strongest

> > > significator...

> > > > > > now

> > > > > > > > > venus antra is before sun so it might have given the

> > > result

> > > > > > > before sun

> > > > > > > > > antra..

> > > > > > > > > I WILL LOOK INTO THE SD RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SUN AND

> > > VENUS.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sun anyhow cant give the result on its own as it

> > aspects

> > > the

> > > > > > > > > 5th house... from 11th.

> > > > > > > > > SUN IS LOD IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. IT HAS 24 POINTS

> > AND

> > > IS A

> > > > > > > STONG

> > > > > > > > > SIGNIFACTOR. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF SUN ASPECTS

> HOUSE

> > 5.

> > > IT

> > > > > > CAN

> > > > > > > > > STILL GIVE THE RESULT.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > now venus itself is hardly having 12 points for 5th

> > house

> > > and

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > > aspects 5th house from 11th again( i know when venus

> > is

> > > > > acting

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > samdhari its aspect on A B or C shouldnt be

> > considered..

> > > but

> > > > > i

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > confused because the event is occuring before time.)

> > > > > > > > > IF VENUS IS A STRONG SD TO SUN(LOD), I THINK IT CAN

> > GIVE

> > > > > > RESULTS.

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > AM NOT SURE OF THIS.MAY BE ASH COULD CONFIRM

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > from my wife's chart.. birth of child was in mars

> > antra

> > > which

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > of E for 11th house... but again below 12 points i

> > guess.

> > > > > > > > > I may be wrong but Ashji can throw some light on it..

> > > would

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > good

> > > > > > > > > learning experience.

> > > > > > > > > LOW POINTS FOR LOE DOESN'T MATTER IN TIMING THE EVENT.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I would also curious to know the sex of child if

> > > possible...

> > > > > as

> > > > > > i

> > > > > > > dont

> > > > > > > > > know about the nakshatra of moon during conception.

> > > > > > > > > THIS IS MENTIONED IN THE LESSONS. PLEASE READ THEM

> FOR

> > > YOUR

> > > > > > > > > UNDERSTANDING.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > HARJEET,COULD YOU TELL US IF YOUR WIFE HAD A CASEARAN

> > > > > > CHILDBIRTH

> > > > > > > OR

> > > > > > > > > ANY OTHER COMPLICATIONS? THIS IS FOR MY LEARNING.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > SORRY FOR ALL THE CONFUSION.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > THANKS

> > > > > > > > > GITA

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Your chart for childbirth has Saturn and Jupiter

> > > delay.

> > > > > > > Jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > > aspects Saturn. So there is moderation of delay.

> > This

> > > is

> > > > > > > somewhat

> > > > > > > > > > > tricky.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Also, your wife was running Jupiter antra around

> > that

> > > > > time

> > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > > doesn't show good points for the 5th house.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Considering all these factors I am not suprised

> > that

> > > my

> > > > > > > answer

> > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > incorrect.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, please post the answer at your

> > convenience. I

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > look

> > > > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > > this chart later in leisure.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Btw could you share your marriage date?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > Gita

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > >

> , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gita,

> > > > > > > > > > > > No its not correct. Even if i didnt knew my

> > child's

> > > > > birth

> > > > > > > time

> > > > > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > > > have gone for Sun antra too.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > , " kaslearner "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <kaslearner@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't looked at your wife's chart and I

> > did a

> > > > > quick

> > > > > > > > > analysis

> > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > your chart. I think child conception could

> > have

> > > > > occured

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > second sector of Sun ie 2003-Aug-28 to 2003-

> > Dec-

> > > 09.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope I haven't overlooked anything. Let me

> > know

> > > if

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > right.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Gita

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > >

> > > , " harjeet_bakshi "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected list members,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone wants to find out antra for

> > > conception

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > child

> > > > > > > > > > > birth.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if possible let me know the sex fo the

> child

> > > too.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > MY DOB : 30th sep 1974 / new delhi / time :

> > not

> > > > > > sure...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > official : 10:40 am & rectified (Ashji) :

> > 11:30

> > > am.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wife DOB: 6th nov 1981 / new delhi / 2:45

> > am.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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