Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 yes, NS.you are right. so try once more to time marriage. --Manoshi , " nirvana_seeker2 " <nirvana_seeker2 wrote: > > Jupiter in navamsa is in Libra - becomes weak? So no help from him > in checking the delay? > > NS > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > will jupiter check delay? if yes why? if not why? check check...:-) > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Manoshiji, > > > I would attempt the chart from the understanding i have right now. > > > > > > Saturn aspects lord of A,B and C of rashi in navamsa... giving > > full dealy. > > > Jupiter aspects Saturn and also lord of A and B of rashi in > > navamsa. > > > Instead of adding jupiter dealy(which i am not very sure of).. i > > would > > > opt that saturn dealy would be modified and the event might > occur > > in > > > the second sector. > > > There are no zeores in summary table of rashi.(i guess navamsa > has > > not > > > to be considered so i didnt look). > > > (The lords of navamsa arent to be taken so i wont go for the > lords > > of > > > 1 and 9 of navamsa in 5:9) > > > The dealy ends around oct 25th 1979. > > > Venus antra is going on. > > > Venus is situated with mercury and would act as samdhari of > mercury > > > which is the second strongest of significator and also the lord > of > > E. > > > So i would go for the second sector of Venus for marriage. > > > > > > For child birth.. taking 5th house as B. Moon is the lord of E > and > > the > > > second strongest significator i would go for the antra of moon for > > > child birth. > > > > > > taking 11th as B (for female which i am not sure of) i would go > for > > > the birth of child in venus antra itself the third sector. venus > > is in > > > house E with 7 points and its also its own sign so becomes lord > of > > E > > > too. it is the strongest significator for 11th house in the > > worksheet too. > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > It is a female chart. > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > This chart is for practice. Use KAS to time marriage and > child > > > > birth > > > > > (first child). You will find it pretty simple, if you follow > > the > > > > > rules. I could not time the sector for marriage properly > > though. > > > > Let's > > > > > discuss and learn. > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > 27Jun1955 > > > > > 15Hrs.15Min. > > > > > Pilibhit-India > > > > > 28N38 > > > > > 79E48 > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 So, my attempt in message 11510 was not correct. Uhm.. so you are saying that marriage was not in Venus or Sun antra. Will have to go back again, NS , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa wrote: > > yes, NS.you are right. so try once more to time marriage. > > --Manoshi > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > Jupiter in navamsa is in Libra - becomes weak? So no help from > him > > in checking the delay? > > > > NS > > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > will jupiter check delay? if yes why? if not why? check > check...:-) > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Manoshiji, > > > > I would attempt the chart from the understanding i have right > now. > > > > > > > > Saturn aspects lord of A,B and C of rashi in navamsa... giving > > > full dealy. > > > > Jupiter aspects Saturn and also lord of A and B of rashi in > > > navamsa. > > > > Instead of adding jupiter dealy(which i am not very sure of).. > i > > > would > > > > opt that saturn dealy would be modified and the event might > > occur > > > in > > > > the second sector. > > > > There are no zeores in summary table of rashi.(i guess navamsa > > has > > > not > > > > to be considered so i didnt look). > > > > (The lords of navamsa arent to be taken so i wont go for the > > lords > > > of > > > > 1 and 9 of navamsa in 5:9) > > > > The dealy ends around oct 25th 1979. > > > > Venus antra is going on. > > > > Venus is situated with mercury and would act as samdhari of > > mercury > > > > which is the second strongest of significator and also the > lord > > of > > > E. > > > > So i would go for the second sector of Venus for marriage. > > > > > > > > For child birth.. taking 5th house as B. Moon is the lord of E > > and > > > the > > > > second strongest significator i would go for the antra of moon > for > > > > child birth. > > > > > > > > taking 11th as B (for female which i am not sure of) i would > go > > for > > > > the birth of child in venus antra itself the third sector. > venus > > > is in > > > > house E with 7 points and its also its own sign so becomes > lord > > of > > > E > > > > too. it is the strongest significator for 11th house in the > > > worksheet too. > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It is a female chart. > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > This chart is for practice. Use KAS to time marriage and > > child > > > > > birth > > > > > > (first child). You will find it pretty simple, if you > follow > > > the > > > > > > rules. I could not time the sector for marriage properly > > > though. > > > > > Let's > > > > > > discuss and learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > 27Jun1955 > > > > > > 15Hrs.15Min. > > > > > > Pilibhit-India > > > > > > > 28N38 > > > > > > 79E48 > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 oh.. yes in navamsa its in libra so cant check delay.. my bad.. thanks/regards harjeet , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa wrote: > > yes, NS.you are right. so try once more to time marriage. > > --Manoshi > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > Jupiter in navamsa is in Libra - becomes weak? So no help from > him > > in checking the delay? > > > > NS > > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > will jupiter check delay? if yes why? if not why? check > check...:-) > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Manoshiji, > > > > I would attempt the chart from the understanding i have right > now. > > > > > > > > Saturn aspects lord of A,B and C of rashi in navamsa... giving > > > full dealy. > > > > Jupiter aspects Saturn and also lord of A and B of rashi in > > > navamsa. > > > > Instead of adding jupiter dealy(which i am not very sure of).. > i > > > would > > > > opt that saturn dealy would be modified and the event might > > occur > > > in > > > > the second sector. > > > > There are no zeores in summary table of rashi.(i guess navamsa > > has > > > not > > > > to be considered so i didnt look). > > > > (The lords of navamsa arent to be taken so i wont go for the > > lords > > > of > > > > 1 and 9 of navamsa in 5:9) > > > > The dealy ends around oct 25th 1979. > > > > Venus antra is going on. > > > > Venus is situated with mercury and would act as samdhari of > > mercury > > > > which is the second strongest of significator and also the > lord > > of > > > E. > > > > So i would go for the second sector of Venus for marriage. > > > > > > > > For child birth.. taking 5th house as B. Moon is the lord of E > > and > > > the > > > > second strongest significator i would go for the antra of moon > for > > > > child birth. > > > > > > > > taking 11th as B (for female which i am not sure of) i would > go > > for > > > > the birth of child in venus antra itself the third sector. > venus > > > is in > > > > house E with 7 points and its also its own sign so becomes > lord > > of > > > E > > > > too. it is the strongest significator for 11th house in the > > > worksheet too. > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It is a female chart. > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > This chart is for practice. Use KAS to time marriage and > > child > > > > > birth > > > > > > (first child). You will find it pretty simple, if you > follow > > > the > > > > > > rules. I could not time the sector for marriage properly > > > though. > > > > > Let's > > > > > > discuss and learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > 27Jun1955 > > > > > > 15Hrs.15Min. > > > > > > Pilibhit-India > > > > > > > 28N38 > > > > > > 79E48 > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 if not venus antra... then i think jupiter delay is to be counted too ? if so.. then add another 24 years...? i would rather wait.. or quit rather.. thanks/regards harjeet , " nirvana_seeker2 " <nirvana_seeker2 wrote: > > So, my attempt in message 11510 was not correct. Uhm.. so you are > saying that marriage was not in Venus or Sun antra. > > Will have to go back again, > > NS > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > yes, NS.you are right. so try once more to time marriage. > > > > --Manoshi > > > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > Jupiter in navamsa is in Libra - becomes weak? So no help from > > him > > > in checking the delay? > > > > > > NS > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > will jupiter check delay? if yes why? if not why? check > > check...:-) > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Manoshiji, > > > > > I would attempt the chart from the understanding i have right > > now. > > > > > > > > > > Saturn aspects lord of A,B and C of rashi in navamsa... > giving > > > > full dealy. > > > > > Jupiter aspects Saturn and also lord of A and B of rashi in > > > > navamsa. > > > > > Instead of adding jupiter dealy(which i am not very sure > of).. > > i > > > > would > > > > > opt that saturn dealy would be modified and the event might > > > occur > > > > in > > > > > the second sector. > > > > > There are no zeores in summary table of rashi.(i guess > navamsa > > > has > > > > not > > > > > to be considered so i didnt look). > > > > > (The lords of navamsa arent to be taken so i wont go for the > > > lords > > > > of > > > > > 1 and 9 of navamsa in 5:9) > > > > > The dealy ends around oct 25th 1979. > > > > > Venus antra is going on. > > > > > Venus is situated with mercury and would act as samdhari of > > > mercury > > > > > which is the second strongest of significator and also the > > lord > > > of > > > > E. > > > > > So i would go for the second sector of Venus for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > For child birth.. taking 5th house as B. Moon is the lord of > E > > > and > > > > the > > > > > second strongest significator i would go for the antra of > moon > > for > > > > > child birth. > > > > > > > > > > taking 11th as B (for female which i am not sure of) i would > > go > > > for > > > > > the birth of child in venus antra itself the third sector. > > venus > > > > is in > > > > > house E with 7 points and its also its own sign so becomes > > lord > > > of > > > > E > > > > > too. it is the strongest significator for 11th house in the > > > > worksheet too. > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a female chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This chart is for practice. Use KAS to time marriage and > > > child > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > (first child). You will find it pretty simple, if you > > follow > > > > the > > > > > > > rules. I could not time the sector for marriage properly > > > > though. > > > > > > Let's > > > > > > > discuss and learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27Jun1955 > > > > > > > 15Hrs.15Min. > > > > > > > Pilibhit-India > > > > > > > > > 28N38 > > > > > > > 79E48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 If sun did not give marriage, then the next antra is of Moon (with highest point in H7). If no other planet then Moon must have given the marriage. NS , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > if not venus antra... then i think jupiter delay is to be counted too ? > if so.. then add another 24 years...? > i would rather wait.. or quit rather.. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > So, my attempt in message 11510 was not correct. Uhm.. so you are > > saying that marriage was not in Venus or Sun antra. > > > > Will have to go back again, > > > > NS > > > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > yes, NS.you are right. so try once more to time marriage. > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > --- In , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Jupiter in navamsa is in Libra - becomes weak? So no help from > > > him > > > > in checking the delay? > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > will jupiter check delay? if yes why? if not why? check > > > check...:-) > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoshiji, > > > > > > I would attempt the chart from the understanding i have right > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn aspects lord of A,B and C of rashi in navamsa... > > giving > > > > > full dealy. > > > > > > Jupiter aspects Saturn and also lord of A and B of rashi in > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > Instead of adding jupiter dealy(which i am not very sure > > of).. > > > i > > > > > would > > > > > > opt that saturn dealy would be modified and the event might > > > > occur > > > > > in > > > > > > the second sector. > > > > > > There are no zeores in summary table of rashi.(i guess > > navamsa > > > > has > > > > > not > > > > > > to be considered so i didnt look). > > > > > > (The lords of navamsa arent to be taken so i wont go for the > > > > lords > > > > > of > > > > > > 1 and 9 of navamsa in 5:9) > > > > > > The dealy ends around oct 25th 1979. > > > > > > Venus antra is going on. > > > > > > Venus is situated with mercury and would act as samdhari of > > > > mercury > > > > > > which is the second strongest of significator and also the > > > lord > > > > of > > > > > E. > > > > > > So i would go for the second sector of Venus for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > For child birth.. taking 5th house as B. Moon is the lord of > > E > > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > second strongest significator i would go for the antra of > > moon > > > for > > > > > > child birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > taking 11th as B (for female which i am not sure of) i would > > > go > > > > for > > > > > > the birth of child in venus antra itself the third sector. > > > venus > > > > > is in > > > > > > house E with 7 points and its also its own sign so becomes > > > lord > > > > of > > > > > E > > > > > > too. it is the strongest significator for 11th house in the > > > > > worksheet too. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a female chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " Manoshi > > > > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This chart is for practice. Use KAS to time marriage and > > > > child > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > (first child). You will find it pretty simple, if you > > > follow > > > > > the > > > > > > > > rules. I could not time the sector for marriage properly > > > > > though. > > > > > > > Let's > > > > > > > > discuss and learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27Jun1955 > > > > > > > > 15Hrs.15Min. > > > > > > > > Pilibhit-India > > > > > > > > > > > 28N38 > > > > > > > > 79E48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 If moon, then because of full delay, I will pick third sector - from jan 16, 1984 till Jul 17, 1984. During this time, if we see the pdf, the first that can give marriage is saturn and moon - 28 jan 1984 till 9 feb 1984. NS , " nirvana_seeker2 " <nirvana_seeker2 wrote: > > If sun did not give marriage, then the next antra is of Moon (with > highest point in H7). If no other planet then Moon must have given > the marriage. > > NS > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > if not venus antra... then i think jupiter delay is to be counted > too ? > > if so.. then add another 24 years...? > > i would rather wait.. or quit rather.. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > So, my attempt in message 11510 was not correct. Uhm.. so you > are > > > saying that marriage was not in Venus or Sun antra. > > > > > > Will have to go back again, > > > > > > NS > > > > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > yes, NS.you are right. so try once more to time marriage. > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > --- In > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter in navamsa is in Libra - becomes weak? So no help > from > > > > him > > > > > in checking the delay? > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > will jupiter check delay? if yes why? if not why? check > > > > check...:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoshiji, > > > > > > > I would attempt the chart from the understanding i have > right > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn aspects lord of A,B and C of rashi in navamsa... > > > giving > > > > > > full dealy. > > > > > > > Jupiter aspects Saturn and also lord of A and B of rashi > in > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > Instead of adding jupiter dealy(which i am not very sure > > > of).. > > > > i > > > > > > would > > > > > > > opt that saturn dealy would be modified and the event > might > > > > > occur > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the second sector. > > > > > > > There are no zeores in summary table of rashi.(i guess > > > navamsa > > > > > has > > > > > > not > > > > > > > to be considered so i didnt look). > > > > > > > (The lords of navamsa arent to be taken so i wont go for > the > > > > > lords > > > > > > of > > > > > > > 1 and 9 of navamsa in 5:9) > > > > > > > The dealy ends around oct 25th 1979. > > > > > > > Venus antra is going on. > > > > > > > Venus is situated with mercury and would act as samdhari > of > > > > > mercury > > > > > > > which is the second strongest of significator and also > the > > > > lord > > > > > of > > > > > > E. > > > > > > > So i would go for the second sector of Venus for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For child birth.. taking 5th house as B. Moon is the lord > of > > > E > > > > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > second strongest significator i would go for the antra of > > > moon > > > > for > > > > > > > child birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > taking 11th as B (for female which i am not sure of) i > would > > > > go > > > > > for > > > > > > > the birth of child in venus antra itself the third > sector. > > > > venus > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > house E with 7 points and its also its own sign so > becomes > > > > lord > > > > > of > > > > > > E > > > > > > > too. it is the strongest significator for 11th house in > the > > > > > > worksheet too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " Manoshi > > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a female chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " Manoshi > > > > > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This chart is for practice. Use KAS to time marriage > and > > > > > child > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > (first child). You will find it pretty simple, if you > > > > follow > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > rules. I could not time the sector for marriage > properly > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > Let's > > > > > > > > > discuss and learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27Jun1955 > > > > > > > > > 15Hrs.15Min. > > > > > > > > > Pilibhit-India > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28N38 > > > > > > > > > 79E48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Any feedback on this analysis, Manoshi? NS , " nirvana_seeker2 " <nirvana_seeker2 wrote: > > If moon, then because of full delay, I will pick third sector - from > jan 16, 1984 till Jul 17, 1984. During this time, if we see the pdf, > the first that can give marriage is saturn and moon - 28 jan 1984 > till 9 feb 1984. > > NS > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > If sun did not give marriage, then the next antra is of Moon (with > > highest point in H7). If no other planet then Moon must have given > > the marriage. > > > > NS > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > if not venus antra... then i think jupiter delay is to be counted > > too ? > > > if so.. then add another 24 years...? > > > i would rather wait.. or quit rather.. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > --- In , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > So, my attempt in message 11510 was not correct. Uhm.. so you > > are > > > > saying that marriage was not in Venus or Sun antra. > > > > > > > > Will have to go back again, > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > yes, NS.you are right. so try once more to time marriage. > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter in navamsa is in Libra - becomes weak? So no help > > from > > > > > him > > > > > > in checking the delay? > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will jupiter check delay? if yes why? if not why? check > > > > > check...:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoshiji, > > > > > > > > I would attempt the chart from the understanding i have > > right > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn aspects lord of A,B and C of rashi in navamsa... > > > > giving > > > > > > > full dealy. > > > > > > > > Jupiter aspects Saturn and also lord of A and B of > rashi > > in > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > Instead of adding jupiter dealy(which i am not very > sure > > > > of).. > > > > > i > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > opt that saturn dealy would be modified and the event > > might > > > > > > occur > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the second sector. > > > > > > > > There are no zeores in summary table of rashi.(i guess > > > > navamsa > > > > > > has > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > to be considered so i didnt look). > > > > > > > > (The lords of navamsa arent to be taken so i wont go > for > > the > > > > > > lords > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > 1 and 9 of navamsa in 5:9) > > > > > > > > The dealy ends around oct 25th 1979. > > > > > > > > Venus antra is going on. > > > > > > > > Venus is situated with mercury and would act as > samdhari > > of > > > > > > mercury > > > > > > > > which is the second strongest of significator and also > > the > > > > > lord > > > > > > of > > > > > > > E. > > > > > > > > So i would go for the second sector of Venus for > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For child birth.. taking 5th house as B. Moon is the > lord > > of > > > > E > > > > > > and > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > second strongest significator i would go for the antra > of > > > > moon > > > > > for > > > > > > > > child birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > taking 11th as B (for female which i am not sure of) i > > would > > > > > go > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > the birth of child in venus antra itself the third > > sector. > > > > > venus > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > house E with 7 points and its also its own sign so > > becomes > > > > > lord > > > > > > of > > > > > > > E > > > > > > > > too. it is the strongest significator for 11th house in > > the > > > > > > > worksheet too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " Manoshi > > > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a female chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " Manoshi > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This chart is for practice. Use KAS to time > marriage > > and > > > > > > child > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > (first child). You will find it pretty simple, if > you > > > > > follow > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > rules. I could not time the sector for marriage > > properly > > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > Let's > > > > > > > > > > discuss and learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27Jun1955 > > > > > > > > > > 15Hrs.15Min. > > > > > > > > > > Pilibhit-India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28N38 > > > > > > > > > > 79E48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 wait for the results NS. --Manoshi , " nirvana_seeker2 " <nirvana_seeker2 wrote: > > Any feedback on this analysis, Manoshi? > > NS > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > If moon, then because of full delay, I will pick third sector - > from > > jan 16, 1984 till Jul 17, 1984. During this time, if we see the > pdf, > > the first that can give marriage is saturn and moon - 28 jan 1984 > > till 9 feb 1984. > > > > NS > > > > --- In , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > If sun did not give marriage, then the next antra is of Moon > (with > > > highest point in H7). If no other planet then Moon must have > given > > > the marriage. > > > > > > NS > > > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > if not venus antra... then i think jupiter delay is to be > counted > > > too ? > > > > if so.. then add another 24 years...? > > > > i would rather wait.. or quit rather.. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > --- In > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > So, my attempt in message 11510 was not correct. Uhm.. so > you > > > are > > > > > saying that marriage was not in Venus or Sun antra. > > > > > > > > > > Will have to go back again, > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, NS.you are right. so try once more to time marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter in navamsa is in Libra - becomes weak? So no > help > > > from > > > > > > him > > > > > > > in checking the delay? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " Manoshi > > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will jupiter check delay? if yes why? if not why? check > > > > > > check...:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoshiji, > > > > > > > > > I would attempt the chart from the understanding i > have > > > right > > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn aspects lord of A,B and C of rashi in > navamsa... > > > > > giving > > > > > > > > full dealy. > > > > > > > > > Jupiter aspects Saturn and also lord of A and B of > > rashi > > > in > > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > Instead of adding jupiter dealy(which i am not very > > sure > > > > > of).. > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > opt that saturn dealy would be modified and the > event > > > might > > > > > > > occur > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the second sector. > > > > > > > > > There are no zeores in summary table of rashi.(i > guess > > > > > navamsa > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > to be considered so i didnt look). > > > > > > > > > (The lords of navamsa arent to be taken so i wont go > > for > > > the > > > > > > > lords > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > 1 and 9 of navamsa in 5:9) > > > > > > > > > The dealy ends around oct 25th 1979. > > > > > > > > > Venus antra is going on. > > > > > > > > > Venus is situated with mercury and would act as > > samdhari > > > of > > > > > > > mercury > > > > > > > > > which is the second strongest of significator and > also > > > the > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > E. > > > > > > > > > So i would go for the second sector of Venus for > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For child birth.. taking 5th house as B. Moon is the > > lord > > > of > > > > > E > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > second strongest significator i would go for the > antra > > of > > > > > moon > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > child birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > taking 11th as B (for female which i am not sure of) > i > > > would > > > > > > go > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > the birth of child in venus antra itself the third > > > sector. > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > house E with 7 points and its also its own sign so > > > becomes > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > E > > > > > > > > > too. it is the strongest significator for 11th house > in > > > the > > > > > > > > worksheet too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " Manoshi > > > > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a female chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This chart is for practice. Use KAS to time > > marriage > > > and > > > > > > > child > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > (first child). You will find it pretty simple, if > > you > > > > > > follow > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > rules. I could not time the sector for marriage > > > properly > > > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > Let's > > > > > > > > > > > discuss and learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27Jun1955 > > > > > > > > > > > 15Hrs.15Min. > > > > > > > > > > > Pilibhit-India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28N38 > > > > > > > > > > > > 79E48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 If i understand it correclty Ashji just pointed out the navamsa lord and 9th navamsa lord are in trine cancels delay... for the query native also has this combination... i would cross check and confirm this and reattempt if i get time.. so delay of saturn should be negated. thanks/regards harjeet , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa wrote: > > wait for the results NS. > > --Manoshi > > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > Any feedback on this analysis, Manoshi? > > > > NS > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > If moon, then because of full delay, I will pick third sector - > > from > > > jan 16, 1984 till Jul 17, 1984. During this time, if we see the > > pdf, > > > the first that can give marriage is saturn and moon - 28 jan > 1984 > > > till 9 feb 1984. > > > > > > NS > > > > > > --- In > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If sun did not give marriage, then the next antra is of Moon > > (with > > > > highest point in H7). If no other planet then Moon must have > > given > > > > the marriage. > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > --- In > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > if not venus antra... then i think jupiter delay is to be > > counted > > > > too ? > > > > > if so.. then add another 24 years...? > > > > > i would rather wait.. or quit rather.. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > So, my attempt in message 11510 was not correct. Uhm.. so > > you > > > > are > > > > > > saying that marriage was not in Venus or Sun antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Will have to go back again, > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, NS.you are right. so try once more to time marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter in navamsa is in Libra - becomes weak? So no > > help > > > > from > > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > in checking the delay? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " Manoshi > > > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will jupiter check delay? if yes why? if not why? > check > > > > > > > check...:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoshiji, > > > > > > > > > > I would attempt the chart from the understanding i > > have > > > > right > > > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn aspects lord of A,B and C of rashi in > > navamsa... > > > > > > giving > > > > > > > > > full dealy. > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter aspects Saturn and also lord of A and B of > > > rashi > > > > in > > > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > Instead of adding jupiter dealy(which i am not > very > > > sure > > > > > > of).. > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > opt that saturn dealy would be modified and the > > event > > > > might > > > > > > > > occur > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > the second sector. > > > > > > > > > > There are no zeores in summary table of rashi.(i > > guess > > > > > > navamsa > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > to be considered so i didnt look). > > > > > > > > > > (The lords of navamsa arent to be taken so i wont > go > > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > > lords > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > 1 and 9 of navamsa in 5:9) > > > > > > > > > > The dealy ends around oct 25th 1979. > > > > > > > > > > Venus antra is going on. > > > > > > > > > > Venus is situated with mercury and would act as > > > samdhari > > > > of > > > > > > > > mercury > > > > > > > > > > which is the second strongest of significator and > > also > > > > the > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > E. > > > > > > > > > > So i would go for the second sector of Venus for > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For child birth.. taking 5th house as B. Moon is > the > > > lord > > > > of > > > > > > E > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > second strongest significator i would go for the > > antra > > > of > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > child birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > taking 11th as B (for female which i am not sure > of) > > i > > > > would > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > the birth of child in venus antra itself the third > > > > sector. > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > house E with 7 points and its also its own sign so > > > > becomes > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > E > > > > > > > > > > too. it is the strongest significator for 11th > house > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > > > worksheet too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a female chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This chart is for practice. Use KAS to time > > > marriage > > > > and > > > > > > > > child > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > (first child). You will find it pretty simple, > if > > > you > > > > > > > follow > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > rules. I could not time the sector for > marriage > > > > properly > > > > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > Let's > > > > > > > > > > > > discuss and learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27Jun1955 > > > > > > > > > > > > 15Hrs.15Min. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pilibhit-India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28N38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 79E48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 if navamsa lagna lord and navamsa 9th lord in 5:9 negates delay.. antra of mercury jul-1975 to feb-1978 would be a good time as its the lord of E and second strongest significator with 16 points. i would wait for the answer on monday now. thanks/regards harjeet , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > If i understand it correclty Ashji just pointed out the navamsa lord > and 9th navamsa lord are in trine cancels delay... > for the query native also has this combination... > i would cross check and confirm this and reattempt if i get time.. > so delay of saturn should be negated. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > wait for the results NS. > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > Any feedback on this analysis, Manoshi? > > > > > > NS > > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If moon, then because of full delay, I will pick third sector - > > > from > > > > jan 16, 1984 till Jul 17, 1984. During this time, if we see the > > > pdf, > > > > the first that can give marriage is saturn and moon - 28 jan > > 1984 > > > > till 9 feb 1984. > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If sun did not give marriage, then the next antra is of Moon > > > (with > > > > > highest point in H7). If no other planet then Moon must have > > > given > > > > > the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > if not venus antra... then i think jupiter delay is to be > > > counted > > > > > too ? > > > > > > if so.. then add another 24 years...? > > > > > > i would rather wait.. or quit rather.. > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, my attempt in message 11510 was not correct. Uhm.. so > > > you > > > > > are > > > > > > > saying that marriage was not in Venus or Sun antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will have to go back again, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, NS.you are right. so try once more to time marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter in navamsa is in Libra - becomes weak? So no > > > help > > > > > from > > > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > in checking the delay? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " Manoshi > > > > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will jupiter check delay? if yes why? if not why? > > check > > > > > > > > check...:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoshiji, > > > > > > > > > > > I would attempt the chart from the understanding i > > > have > > > > > right > > > > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn aspects lord of A,B and C of rashi in > > > navamsa... > > > > > > > giving > > > > > > > > > > full dealy. > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter aspects Saturn and also lord of A and B of > > > > rashi > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of adding jupiter dealy(which i am not > > very > > > > sure > > > > > > > of).. > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > opt that saturn dealy would be modified and the > > > event > > > > > might > > > > > > > > > occur > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the second sector. > > > > > > > > > > > There are no zeores in summary table of rashi.(i > > > guess > > > > > > > navamsa > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > to be considered so i didnt look). > > > > > > > > > > > (The lords of navamsa arent to be taken so i wont > > go > > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lords > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > 1 and 9 of navamsa in 5:9) > > > > > > > > > > > The dealy ends around oct 25th 1979. > > > > > > > > > > > Venus antra is going on. > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is situated with mercury and would act as > > > > samdhari > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > mercury > > > > > > > > > > > which is the second strongest of significator and > > > also > > > > > the > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > E. > > > > > > > > > > > So i would go for the second sector of Venus for > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For child birth.. taking 5th house as B. Moon is > > the > > > > lord > > > > > of > > > > > > > E > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > second strongest significator i would go for the > > > antra > > > > of > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > child birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > taking 11th as B (for female which i am not sure > > of) > > > i > > > > > would > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > the birth of child in venus antra itself the third > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > house E with 7 points and its also its own sign so > > > > > becomes > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > E > > > > > > > > > > > too. it is the strongest significator for 11th > > house > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > worksheet too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a female chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This chart is for practice. Use KAS to time > > > > marriage > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > child > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > (first child). You will find it pretty simple, > > if > > > > you > > > > > > > > follow > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > rules. I could not time the sector for > > marriage > > > > > properly > > > > > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's > > > > > > > > > > > > > discuss and learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27Jun1955 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15Hrs.15Min. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pilibhit-India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28N38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 79E48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 this comes with practice. Still, jupiter in Libra cannot cancels delay, or is not able to reduce delay is a known KAS law. --Manoshi , " nirvana_seeker2 " <nirvana_seeker2 wrote: > > Since there are so many rules for delay and / or lack there of, is > there a list that prioritizes some of these rules. For example, if > D9 lord and 9th lord in D9 are 5:9 position in D9, then there is no > delay. And, if Jupiter is in Libra - no check on delay. > > The question is which one of these two rules take precedence. Which > one should we use first? > > NS > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > good discussion NS and Harjeet. Here is the explanation (I had > doubt > > too and I asked Krishna ji). > > > > First, we must check the 1st and 9th lords in rasi. what is their > > position? are they in favourable relationship(in rasi and navamsa)? > > If they are not then 66% of the scenario is not in favour. Now if > > navamsa 1st lord and navamsa 9th lord are in 5:9 then there will > > some reduction in delay (33% help). BUT again, if the 9th lord is > > jupiter and is in saturn nakshatra. rasi libra etc, then the delay > > may not be reduced at all. > > > > THEN, most importantly, navamsa chart changes rapidly, so not > always > > we can depend on the navamsa chart based on the given birth time, > so > > we must check other events. Here in this case, take the given birth > > time (for now) as the real birth time. > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > if navamsa lagna lord and navamsa 9th lord in 5:9 negates delay.. > > > antra of mercury jul-1975 to feb-1978 would be a good time as its > > the > > > lord of E and second strongest significator with 16 points. > > > i would wait for the answer on monday now. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If i understand it correclty Ashji just pointed out the navamsa > > lord > > > > and 9th navamsa lord are in trine cancels delay... > > > > for the query native also has this combination... > > > > i would cross check and confirm this and reattempt if i get > > time.. > > > > so delay of saturn should be negated. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > wait for the results NS. > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Any feedback on this analysis, Manoshi? > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > --- In > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If moon, then because of full delay, I will pick third > > sector - > > > > > > from > > > > > > > jan 16, 1984 till Jul 17, 1984. During this time, if we > > see the > > > > > > pdf, > > > > > > > the first that can give marriage is saturn and moon - 28 > > jan > > > > > 1984 > > > > > > > till 9 feb 1984. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If sun did not give marriage, then the next antra is of > > Moon > > > > > > (with > > > > > > > > highest point in H7). If no other planet then Moon > must > > have > > > > > > given > > > > > > > > the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if not venus antra... then i think jupiter delay is > to > > be > > > > > > counted > > > > > > > > too ? > > > > > > > > > if so.. then add another 24 years...? > > > > > > > > > i would rather wait.. or quit rather.. > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, my attempt in message 11510 was not correct. > > Uhm.. so > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > saying that marriage was not in Venus or Sun antra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will have to go back again, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " Manoshi > > > > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, NS.you are right. so try once more to time > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker2 " > > > > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter in navamsa is in Libra - becomes weak? > > So no > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > > > in checking the delay? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will jupiter check delay? if yes why? if not > > why? > > > > > check > > > > > > > > > > > check...:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoshiji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would attempt the chart from the > > understanding i > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > right > > > > > > > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn aspects lord of A,B and C of rashi > in > > > > > > navamsa... > > > > > > > > > > giving > > > > > > > > > > > > > full dealy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter aspects Saturn and also lord of A > > and B of > > > > > > > rashi > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of adding jupiter dealy(which i am > > not > > > > > very > > > > > > > sure > > > > > > > > > > of).. > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > > opt that saturn dealy would be modified > and > > the > > > > > > event > > > > > > > > might > > > > > > > > > > > > occur > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the second sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are no zeores in summary table of > > rashi.(i > > > > > > guess > > > > > > > > > > navamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to be considered so i didnt look). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (The lords of navamsa arent to be taken so > i > > wont > > > > > go > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > lords > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 and 9 of navamsa in 5:9) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dealy ends around oct 25th 1979. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus antra is going on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is situated with mercury and would > act > > as > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > mercury > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which is the second strongest of > > significator and > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > E. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So i would go for the second sector of > Venus > > for > > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For child birth.. taking 5th house as B. > > Moon is > > > > > the > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > E > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > second strongest significator i would go > for > > the > > > > > > antra > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > child birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > taking 11th as B (for female which i am not > > sure > > > > > of) > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the birth of child in venus antra itself > the > > third > > > > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house E with 7 points and its also its own > > sign so > > > > > > > > becomes > > > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > too. it is the strongest significator for > > 11th > > > > > house > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > worksheet too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a female chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This chart is for practice. Use KAS to > > time > > > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > child > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (first child). You will find it pretty > > simple, > > > > > if > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > follow > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rules. I could not time the sector for > > > > > marriage > > > > > > > > properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discuss and learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27Jun1955 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15Hrs.15Min. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pilibhit-India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 28N38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 79E48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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