Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Dear Prafulla, As per VA, Marak house are 2nd and 7th. As per KAS we say Accidents are seen from 7th house and 2nd house becomes House A. I do not understand what people understand by the term Marak. Ve rules taurus and libra i.e. 2nd and 7th lords of kalpurush chart. In KAS we say MD denote karaktwa. We consider both, Functional and Natural Karaks. So Ve will act as Karak for 7th (2nd lord) and also that for 12th house (7th lord) in natural kalpurush chart. So if particular antra shows problems w.r.t particular house then it might show some accident or surgery something like that. For death, its 8th house as B i.e .Timing of Death. If 7th house shows accident and at the same time 8th house has highest points of its 1st or 5th lords antra and MD is also having relation to 3rd lord then more chances of death due to accident subject to other conditions. So I dont understand why someone would blanket 7th lord and 2nd lord as marak and give dooms day prediction? Atleast as per KAS we might not say such a thing but study it keenly from all angles. Actually based on KAS laws, planets in 12th house the results of such house are enhanced and also the house where 12th lord goes and sits. This you can see from this chart. However that being said, Prafulla, this level of rise is not based on his chart alone. Infact in this chart 10th house poitns are low. Yes, in this chart or u can say from this chart that his brothers love him. 11th lord and 1st lords are in 5:9. Even mistakes he makes, his brothes will forgive and forget. This might be more of personal thing. Prafulla, do you have any chart where an individual based on his own efforts have reached some studendous level such as this case or this chart with some events. I would like to compoare this chart with some other chart that we have with concerete birth time and details so that there is no element of doubt and the predictiosn are based on concrete footing and concerete laws. Thanks Prafulla for your quick feedback, Cheers !!! Ash , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Hi Ash > > Read my replies in underneath your notes: > > > 1) When the native runs Ketu period in 1991/April should be nearing > > 25 years of age. So at that age is when one is staring is career > > and has good aspitations etc. This part is common sense. But, > > nevertheless I thought of writing that down. > > > Passed his education in 1990 and went for a job; and then moved to business (brothers started a small one and he joined it) - started / grown in ketu mahadasha (in late 1994) > > > 2) Now MD will show karaktwa as per KAS. So when the native comes > > around the earning age or say after his studies he beings Ketu Md. > > Ketu is in 12th house and is SD to Venus and Mars. > > 3) Before that 11th lord is in 6th, 7th lord is in 11th, 12th lord > > is in 6th, Moon is yogakarak for sco lagna and is placed in lagna > > itself, 6th and 1st lord is in 12th house, and 12th house as per KAS > > means the results of 1st and 6th house will be enhanced. Also 12th > > lord is placed in 5th house so results of 5th house also will be > > enhanced - Here I am talking about quality of event, 3rd lord is in > > 3rd so all have good status. > > 4) This native also has 4 sectors of Guru in navamsa, dreshkon and > > trishansa. > > 5) Now coming to Ketu MD. So at the time he is about starting is > > career or has begun his career, Ketu MD starts. Ketu is SD to Ve > > and Ma. Its more towards Ve. Ketu is in 12th house of the chart. > > 12th house is Karak for 5th. Venus is in 5th house with 5 bindus so > > its acting as karak for 10th (authority). Ve is also karak for 12th > > house and NK for 7th and 12th again. So his mind is all towards > > these things. Now Ve is in unccha rasi with MF of 1.2. Ketu is also > > SD to Mars. Mars is Karak for 6th, 11th and 1st. So again 6th, > > 11th , 10th, 12th, 7th and 5th all the karaktwas are trigging in > > Ketu MD. > > In business - he is youngest to brothers, so less authority; yes made more than 100 crores in ketu period > > > 6) All the Antras in KEtu MD will have the above flavour. So his > > mind is towards job, authority, income, marriage or dincharya and > > also enjoyment. > > > > 7) 10th house points overall are not powerful in WS. It shows lack > > of satisfaction w.r.t. authority. Now this person has Sco lagna and > > moon also in sco. So he must have a sharp tounge, and must be > > outspoken and says what he wants thereby getting into some kind of > > problems especially w.r.t authority. His lagna poitns are also 33 > > so he might be hot headed person too. > > yes..sort of internal conflicts..yet within manageable limits > > > > 8) He also might be having disputes with his wife or she dont see > > eye to eye with him on many matters and thereby causing > > confrontation. > > yes, had initial problems..in first few years of marriage..now perfectly ok > > > 9) Now too, Ve MD is running. Like Ketu who is SD to Ve and Ma and > > more like Ve, now its Ve's turn. So in that way Ve wont be bad > > either. Even in this MD his mind will be around Authority. Ve is > > karak for authority. So he will continue his expansion. > > yes business expanding well..earlier in dubai, and now in few more countries > > > 10) In antra of Mo, Ju he must have made a lot of investment in > > buying property or land or cars etc. Also expansion of business. > > with in ketu mahadasha (from 1995) - steep growth, investments and expansion > > > 11) He might have married in Ju antra in Ketu MD. Unless he marries > > in Ju/Ve i.e. 2nd or 3rd sector of Ke/Ve. If he does not marry in > > Ke/Ve he might get married in Ke/Ve > > Ketu / Venus     1991-Sep-11     1992-Nov-10 > > Ketu / Jupiter 1995-Apr-02     1996-Mar-08 > > married in june 1996 > > > 12) Did the native face some accident / surgery in Ketu/Mo or > > Ke/Mars antra. > > Moon          1993-Mar-17               1993-Oct-17 > > Mars          1993-Oct-17               1994-Mar-15 > > during 1998 had heart trouble..(no surgery). sun in 4th afflicted by ketu (and in D9 - sun/ketu in 6th house) - when ketu transited over natal sun. > > The lagna lord in 12th with ketu - planet in 2nd from AL giving abundant wealth (esp when ketu is said to be taking away towards the end of dasha). The chart, I initially picked up to test the theory - if weak lagna lord leads to fluctuation in financial status (when i picked lot many charts on identical hypothesis - rich persons with LL in 6/8/12 - often leading to financial ups / downs. In another chart (data not preserved by me) - leo lagna - sun / mercury in 8th - guru in 12th and mars in 5th - excellent dhana yoga- native made huge money and twice had to go through dips, when rahu / ketu transited over LL). > > In more than 80% of charts, with powerful dhana yoga (and weak lagna lord) - natives faced financial fluctuations. and Also - does maraka dasha affects dhana yoga (i did not find consistent results). > > regards / Prafulla > > > > <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash / Ranjan ji > > > > > > I am sorry for delay, as I could now only get the confirmed birth > > time. > > > > > > Male > > > March 3, 1967 > > > 0.39 IST (midnight - morning of March 3) > > > Kota - India 25 N 10 / 75 E 52 > > > > > > Native progressed very well in Ketu mahadasha (though many > > astrologers told him of bad dasha); and continuing very well in > > venus mahadasha (again astrologers considering it as maraka one). > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > The only way to make friends is to become friend. > > > > > > __________ > > > Download Free Screensavers for your computer desktop! > > > Visit our huge screensaver gallery at > > http://www.inbox.com/screensaver [http://www.inbox.com/screensaver] ! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Dear Ash The chart - native with 12th class passing; self begining (in overseas land) - grown like anything (with few falls ..sustainability is question). I know only of his financial events (not others). male April 3, 1956 16.16 IST Jodhpur - 26N17; 73E04 started as clerk; moved to sales..then his own enterprise..is worth currently $50 million + growth from 1987 .. steep growth from 1993 .. and then from 1999 The native had setback in mid 1996; in 1992 (both the time bottom level - almost zero) and rebuilt regards / Prafulla Gang Happiness is like a butterfly, the more you chase it, the more it will elude you, if you capture it against it's will, you will kill it, but if you set your mind on other things, it might just come and sit gently on your shoulder. > > ashsam73 > Wed, 31 May 2006 18:55:39 -0000 > > [feedback] Re: chart sharing / > financial prosperity ..ketu mahadasha was excellent > > Dear Prafulla, > As per VA, Marak house are 2nd and 7th. As per KAS we say > Accidents are seen from 7th house and 2nd house becomes House A. > I do not understand what people understand by the term Marak. Ve > rules taurus and libra i.e. 2nd and 7th lords of kalpurush chart. > In KAS we say MD denote karaktwa. We consider both, Functional and > Natural Karaks. So Ve will act as Karak for 7th (2nd lord) and also > that for 12th house (7th lord) in natural kalpurush chart. > So if particular antra shows problems w.r.t particular house then it > might show some accident or surgery something like that. > For death, its 8th house as B i.e .Timing of Death. If 7th house > shows accident and at the same time 8th house has highest points of > its 1st or 5th lords antra and MD is also having relation to 3rd > lord then more chances of death due to accident subject to other > conditions. > So I dont understand why someone would blanket 7th lord and 2nd lord > as marak and give dooms day prediction? > Atleast as per KAS we might not say such a thing but study it keenly > from all angles. > Actually based on KAS laws, planets in 12th house the results of > such house are enhanced and also the house where 12th lord goes and > sits. This you can see from this chart. > However that being said, Prafulla, this level of rise is not based > on his chart alone. Infact in this chart 10th house poitns are > low. Yes, in this chart or u can say from this chart that his > brothers love him. 11th lord and 1st lords are in 5:9. Even > mistakes he makes, his brothes will forgive and forget. This might > be more of personal thing. > Prafulla, do you have any chart where an individual based on his own > efforts have reached some studendous level such as this case or this > chart with some events. > I would like to compoare this chart with some other chart that we > have with concerete birth time and details so that there is no > element of doubt and the predictiosn are based on concrete footing > and concerete laws. > Thanks Prafulla for your quick feedback, > Cheers !!! > Ash > , Prafulla Gang > <jyotish wrote: > > > > Hi Ash > > > > Read my replies in underneath your notes: > > > > > 1) When the native runs Ketu period in 1991/April should be > nearing > > > 25 years of age. So at that age is when one is staring is > career > > > and has good aspitations etc. This part is common sense. > But, > > > nevertheless I thought of writing that down. > > > > > > Passed his education in 1990 and went for a job; and then moved to > business (brothers started a small one and he joined it) - started / > grown in ketu mahadasha (in late 1994) > > > > > 2) Now MD will show karaktwa as per KAS. So when the native > comes > > > around the earning age or say after his studies he beings Ketu > Md. > > > Ketu is in 12th house and is SD to Venus and Mars. > > > 3) Before that 11th lord is in 6th, 7th lord is in 11th, 12th > lord > > > is in 6th, Moon is yogakarak for sco lagna and is placed in > lagna > > > itself, 6th and 1st lord is in 12th house, and 12th house as > per KAS > > > means the results of 1st and 6th house will be enhanced. Also > 12th > > > lord is placed in 5th house so results of 5th house also will be > > > enhanced - Here I am talking about quality of event, 3rd lord > is in > > > 3rd so all have good status. > > > 4) This native also has 4 sectors of Guru in navamsa, dreshkon > and > > > trishansa. > > > 5) Now coming to Ketu MD. So at the time he is about starting > is > > > career or has begun his career, Ketu MD starts. Ketu is SD to > Ve > > > and Ma. Its more towards Ve. Ketu is in 12th house of the > chart. > > > 12th house is Karak for 5th. Venus is in 5th house with 5 > bindus so > > > its acting as karak for 10th (authority). Ve is also karak > for 12th > > > house and NK for 7th and 12th again. So his mind is all > towards > > > these things. Now Ve is in unccha rasi with MF of 1.2. Ketu > is also > > > SD to Mars. Mars is Karak for 6th, 11th and 1st. So again > 6th, > > > 11th , 10th, 12th, 7th and 5th all the karaktwas are trigging in > > > Ketu MD. > > > > In business - he is youngest to brothers, so less authority; yes > made more than 100 crores in ketu period > > > > > 6) All the Antras in KEtu MD will have the above flavour. So > his > > > mind is towards job, authority, income, marriage or dincharya > and > > > also enjoyment. > > > > > > > 7) 10th house points overall are not powerful in WS. It shows > lack > > > of satisfaction w.r.t. authority. Now this person has Sco > lagna and > > > moon also in sco. So he must have a sharp tounge, and must be > > > outspoken and says what he wants thereby getting into some kind > of > > > problems especially w.r.t authority. His lagna poitns are > also 33 > > > so he might be hot headed person too. > > > > yes..sort of internal conflicts..yet within manageable limits > > > > > > > 8) He also might be having disputes with his wife or she dont > see > > > eye to eye with him on many matters and thereby causing > > > confrontation. > > > > yes, had initial problems..in first few years of marriage..now > perfectly ok > > > > > 9) Now too, Ve MD is running. Like Ketu who is SD to Ve and > Ma and > > > more like Ve, now its Ve's turn. So in that way Ve wont be bad > > > either. Even in this MD his mind will be around Authority. > Ve is > > > karak for authority. So he will continue his expansion. > > > > yes business expanding well..earlier in dubai, and now in few more > countries > > > > > 10) In antra of Mo, Ju he must have made a lot of investment in > > > buying property or land or cars etc. Also expansion of > business. > > > > with in ketu mahadasha (from 1995) - steep growth, investments and > expansion > > > > > 11) He might have married in Ju antra in Ketu MD. Unless he > marries > > > in Ju/Ve i.e. 2nd or 3rd sector of Ke/Ve. If he does not > marry in > > > Ke/Ve he might get married in Ke/Ve > > > Ketu / Venus     1991-Sep-11     1992-Nov-10 > > > Ketu / Jupiter 1995-Apr-02     1996-Mar-08 > > > > married in june 1996 > > > > > 12) Did the native face some accident / surgery in Ketu/Mo or > > > Ke/Mars antra. > > > Moon          1993-Mar-17          >      1993-Oct-17 > > > Mars          1993-Oct-17          >      1994-Mar-15 > > > > during 1998 had heart trouble..(no surgery). sun in 4th afflicted > by ketu (and in D9 - sun/ketu in 6th house) - when ketu transited > over natal sun. > > > > The lagna lord in 12th with ketu - planet in 2nd from AL giving > abundant wealth (esp when ketu is said to be taking away towards the > end of dasha). The chart, I initially picked up to test the theory - > if weak lagna lord leads to fluctuation in financial status (when i > picked lot many charts on identical hypothesis - rich persons with > LL in 6/8/12 - often leading to financial ups / downs. In another > chart (data not preserved by me) - leo lagna - sun / mercury in 8th - > guru in 12th and mars in 5th - excellent dhana yoga- native made > huge money and twice had to go through dips, when rahu / ketu > transited over LL). > > > > In more than 80% of charts, with powerful dhana yoga (and weak > lagna lord) - natives faced financial fluctuations. and Also - does > maraka dasha affects dhana yoga (i did not find consistent results). > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash / Ranjan ji > > > > > > > > I am sorry for delay, as I could now only get the confirmed > birth > > > time. > > > > > > > > Male > > > > March 3, 1967 > > > > 0.39 IST (midnight - morning of March 3) > > > > Kota - India 25 N 10 / 75 E 52 > > > > > > > > Native progressed very well in Ketu mahadasha (though many > > > astrologers told him of bad dasha); and continuing very well in > > > venus mahadasha (again astrologers considering it as maraka > one). > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > > > The only way to make friends is to become friend. > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > Download Free Screensavers for your computer desktop! > > > > Visit our huge screensaver gallery at > > > http://www.inbox.com/screensaver [http://www.inbox.com/screensaver] > [http://www.inbox.com/screensaver] [http://www.inbox.com/screensaver]] ! > > > > > > >        Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Dear Ash I agree with you on Maraka planets. Maraka planets came in quesion, while applying Karmic controlling planets. As MC Jain (in his KCP theory) - pointed out - that is rahu / ketu dispositors, if maraka (and if rahu / ketu in dustasthana) planet's dasa comes in (understandably to be coincided by transit) - native faces obstacles not only from health issues, but financial as well. After moving to India, i am not in touch (on day to day basis) and could not observe this closely. Yet, ketu's transit over natal mars / ketu will be critical. Ref - his relations with brothers .. They brought him in the business, but it was him, who drove the overseas trade (where family made fortune). There are few family issues amongst brothers, but within manageable limits (or say, they do not mix them in business). In the chart, financial growth was evident, but I was only checking the sustainenance of such yoga from Lagna lord's perspective. BTW, Don Dawood Ibrahim (his chart, I read in a magazine..data not stored..around the DOB of Rajeev Gandhi) ..leo lagna with most dhana yoga planets in 12th house (including sun, mercury, mars etc)..Few such charts also confirmed me at that time that - planets in 2nd house / 11th house from AL always give wealth. regards / Prafulla Gang Happiness is like a butterfly, the more you chase it, the more it will elude you, if you capture it against it's will, you will kill it, but if you set your mind on other things, it might just come and sit gently on your shoulder. > > ashsam73 > Wed, 31 May 2006 18:55:39 -0000 > > [feedback] Re: chart sharing / > financial prosperity ..ketu mahadasha was excellent > > Dear Prafulla, > As per VA, Marak house are 2nd and 7th. As per KAS we say > Accidents are seen from 7th house and 2nd house becomes House A. > I do not understand what people understand by the term Marak. Ve > rules taurus and libra i.e. 2nd and 7th lords of kalpurush chart. > In KAS we say MD denote karaktwa. We consider both, Functional and > Natural Karaks. So Ve will act as Karak for 7th (2nd lord) and also > that for 12th house (7th lord) in natural kalpurush chart. > So if particular antra shows problems w.r.t particular house then it > might show some accident or surgery something like that. > For death, its 8th house as B i.e .Timing of Death. If 7th house > shows accident and at the same time 8th house has highest points of > its 1st or 5th lords antra and MD is also having relation to 3rd > lord then more chances of death due to accident subject to other > conditions. > So I dont understand why someone would blanket 7th lord and 2nd lord > as marak and give dooms day prediction? > Atleast as per KAS we might not say such a thing but study it keenly > from all angles. > Actually based on KAS laws, planets in 12th house the results of > such house are enhanced and also the house where 12th lord goes and > sits. This you can see from this chart. > However that being said, Prafulla, this level of rise is not based > on his chart alone. Infact in this chart 10th house poitns are > low. Yes, in this chart or u can say from this chart that his > brothers love him. 11th lord and 1st lords are in 5:9. Even > mistakes he makes, his brothes will forgive and forget. This might > be more of personal thing. > Prafulla, do you have any chart where an individual based on his own > efforts have reached some studendous level such as this case or this > chart with some events. > I would like to compoare this chart with some other chart that we > have with concerete birth time and details so that there is no > element of doubt and the predictiosn are based on concrete footing > and concerete laws. > Thanks Prafulla for your quick feedback, > Cheers !!! > Ash > , Prafulla Gang > <jyotish wrote: > > > > Hi Ash > > > > Read my replies in underneath your notes: > > > > > 1) When the native runs Ketu period in 1991/April should be > nearing > > > 25 years of age. So at that age is when one is staring is > career > > > and has good aspitations etc. This part is common sense. > But, > > > nevertheless I thought of writing that down. > > > > > > Passed his education in 1990 and went for a job; and then moved to > business (brothers started a small one and he joined it) - started / > grown in ketu mahadasha (in late 1994) > > > > > 2) Now MD will show karaktwa as per KAS. So when the native > comes > > > around the earning age or say after his studies he beings Ketu > Md. > > > Ketu is in 12th house and is SD to Venus and Mars. > > > 3) Before that 11th lord is in 6th, 7th lord is in 11th, 12th > lord > > > is in 6th, Moon is yogakarak for sco lagna and is placed in > lagna > > > itself, 6th and 1st lord is in 12th house, and 12th house as > per KAS > > > means the results of 1st and 6th house will be enhanced. Also > 12th > > > lord is placed in 5th house so results of 5th house also will be > > > enhanced - Here I am talking about quality of event, 3rd lord > is in > > > 3rd so all have good status. > > > 4) This native also has 4 sectors of Guru in navamsa, dreshkon > and > > > trishansa. > > > 5) Now coming to Ketu MD. So at the time he is about starting > is > > > career or has begun his career, Ketu MD starts. Ketu is SD to > Ve > > > and Ma. Its more towards Ve. Ketu is in 12th house of the > chart. > > > 12th house is Karak for 5th. Venus is in 5th house with 5 > bindus so > > > its acting as karak for 10th (authority). Ve is also karak > for 12th > > > house and NK for 7th and 12th again. So his mind is all > towards > > > these things. Now Ve is in unccha rasi with MF of 1.2. Ketu > is also > > > SD to Mars. Mars is Karak for 6th, 11th and 1st. So again > 6th, > > > 11th , 10th, 12th, 7th and 5th all the karaktwas are trigging in > > > Ketu MD. > > > > In business - he is youngest to brothers, so less authority; yes > made more than 100 crores in ketu period > > > > > 6) All the Antras in KEtu MD will have the above flavour. So > his > > > mind is towards job, authority, income, marriage or dincharya > and > > > also enjoyment. > > > > > > > 7) 10th house points overall are not powerful in WS. It shows > lack > > > of satisfaction w.r.t. authority. Now this person has Sco > lagna and > > > moon also in sco. So he must have a sharp tounge, and must be > > > outspoken and says what he wants thereby getting into some kind > of > > > problems especially w.r.t authority. His lagna poitns are > also 33 > > > so he might be hot headed person too. > > > > yes..sort of internal conflicts..yet within manageable limits > > > > > > > 8) He also might be having disputes with his wife or she dont > see > > > eye to eye with him on many matters and thereby causing > > > confrontation. > > > > yes, had initial problems..in first few years of marriage..now > perfectly ok > > > > > 9) Now too, Ve MD is running. Like Ketu who is SD to Ve and > Ma and > > > more like Ve, now its Ve's turn. So in that way Ve wont be bad > > > either. Even in this MD his mind will be around Authority. > Ve is > > > karak for authority. So he will continue his expansion. > > > > yes business expanding well..earlier in dubai, and now in few more > countries > > > > > 10) In antra of Mo, Ju he must have made a lot of investment in > > > buying property or land or cars etc. Also expansion of > business. > > > > with in ketu mahadasha (from 1995) - steep growth, investments and > expansion > > > > > 11) He might have married in Ju antra in Ketu MD. Unless he > marries > > > in Ju/Ve i.e. 2nd or 3rd sector of Ke/Ve. If he does not > marry in > > > Ke/Ve he might get married in Ke/Ve > > > Ketu / Venus     1991-Sep-11     1992-Nov-10 > > > Ketu / Jupiter 1995-Apr-02     1996-Mar-08 > > > > married in june 1996 > > > > > 12) Did the native face some accident / surgery in Ketu/Mo or > > > Ke/Mars antra. > > > Moon          1993-Mar-17          >      1993-Oct-17 > > > Mars          1993-Oct-17          >      1994-Mar-15 > > > > during 1998 had heart trouble..(no surgery). sun in 4th afflicted > by ketu (and in D9 - sun/ketu in 6th house) - when ketu transited > over natal sun. > > > > The lagna lord in 12th with ketu - planet in 2nd from AL giving > abundant wealth (esp when ketu is said to be taking away towards the > end of dasha). The chart, I initially picked up to test the theory - > if weak lagna lord leads to fluctuation in financial status (when i > picked lot many charts on identical hypothesis - rich persons with > LL in 6/8/12 - often leading to financial ups / downs. In another > chart (data not preserved by me) - leo lagna - sun / mercury in 8th - > guru in 12th and mars in 5th - excellent dhana yoga- native made > huge money and twice had to go through dips, when rahu / ketu > transited over LL). > > > > In more than 80% of charts, with powerful dhana yoga (and weak > lagna lord) - natives faced financial fluctuations. and Also - does > maraka dasha affects dhana yoga (i did not find consistent results). > > > > regards / Prafulla > > > > > > > <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash / Ranjan ji > > > > > > > > I am sorry for delay, as I could now only get the confirmed > birth > > > time. > > > > > > > > Male > > > > March 3, 1967 > > > > 0.39 IST (midnight - morning of March 3) > > > > Kota - India 25 N 10 / 75 E 52 > > > > > > > > Native progressed very well in Ketu mahadasha (though many > > > astrologers told him of bad dasha); and continuing very well in > > > venus mahadasha (again astrologers considering it as maraka > one). > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > > > The only way to make friends is to become friend. > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > Download Free Screensavers for your computer desktop! > > > > Visit our huge screensaver gallery at > > > http://www.inbox.com/screensaver [http://www.inbox.com/screensaver] > [http://www.inbox.com/screensaver] [http://www.inbox.com/screensaver]] ! > > > > > > >        Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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