Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Dear Ash,Manoshi,Gita,Manu,Bala,Dadhi,Syndhu and lists, Thanks for participating in the quiz.I was waiting for the analysis done by Rayudu Ji I picked up this chart from our archives vide message no 1540 as an exercise given by Shri Krushna ji to list members.I tried this chart for the date of marriage and reached to Me antara as you have done. The marriage was performed on 28 Dec 1972 just completing 18 years.This is a case of normal marriage. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Respected Rayudu Sir, Ash, Manoshi, Gita, Manu, Bala, Dadhi and list members, Namaskar, > I got one chart of a female native who was born on 16 Dec 1954 at 22:15 hrs in India 19 N 05, 74 E 44. > Please find out the date of marriage of this lady for the practice. I tried to find out the date but I could not. My result was wrong. Let me see whether your approach is according to my approach or different from me.After receiving response from you all we shall check out my wrong approach.. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger. > > Stay connected with your friends even when away from PC. Link: http://in.mobile./new/messenger/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Sorry Ramesh, I was stuck othwerwise. Blessings Pemmaraju Rayudu aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Ash,Manoshi,Gita,Manu,Bala,Dadhi,Syndhu and lists, Thanks for participating in the quiz.I was waiting for the analysis done by Rayudu Ji I picked up this chart from our archives vide message no 1540 as an exercise given by Shri Krushna ji to list members.I tried this chart for the date of marriage and reached to Me antara as you have done. The marriage was performed on 28 Dec 1972 just completing 18 years.This is a case of normal marriage. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Respected Rayudu Sir, Ash, Manoshi, Gita, Manu, Bala, Dadhi and list members, Namaskar, > I got one chart of a female native who was born on 16 Dec 1954 at 22:15 hrs in India 19 N 05, 74 E 44. > Please find out the date of marriage of this lady for the practice. I tried to find out the date but I could not. My result was wrong. Let me see whether your approach is according to my approach or different from me.After receiving response from you all we shall check out my wrong approach.. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger. > > Stay connected with your friends even when away from PC. Link: http://in.mobile./new/messenger/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Dear Ramesh & others, Sorry, all my previous mails got deleted by mistake, including your data for quiz for marriage. But I noted somewhere like this. DoB 16 Dec 1954, ToB 22:15hrs, PoB 19N05, 74E44 India. Marriage 28Dec 1972, Death 27 May 1992.Hope this data is correct Though belated, I tried the analysis quickly as follows, as far as I know KAS: Rasi: Lagna 0 Leo 58, Sun 1 Sg52, Moon 27 leo17, Merc 26Sco 57, Mars 16 Aqu 30, Jup ®6 Cancer 11, Venus 24 Lib32, Sat 24 lib31 , Rahu 13 Sg 54, Ket 13 ge 54 Navamsa: lagna Aries, Sun Aries Sat & Ven Taurus; Jup Rah in leo; Moon Sagi; Mars Ket Aquar; Merc Pisces In Rasi:Saturn no aspect A,B,C, himself LoB,no aspect LoA,LoC - So no Saturn delay Jupiter no aspect A,B, no aspect LoB , aspects LoA- So no Jupiter delay In Navamsa: Saturn no aspect B, aspects C,in A. no aspect LoA, LoC of Rasi, himself LoB- So no Saturn delay . Jupiter no aspect A,B, no aspect LoA, LoB of Rasi in navamsa- So no Jupiter delay. So start from 18 years legal age from 16 Feb 1972. Then the dasa is Mars MD- Jupiter AD from 18 Feb 1972 to 23 Jan 1973. 7th ( marriage) WS: Sun 14, Moon 26 LoE, Mars 21 LoD, Merc 19, Jup 19, Ven 11, Sat 10 2 nd ( family) WS:Sun 9, Moon 16, Mars 18, Merc 17 LoD, Jup 14, Ven 7, Sat 14 LoE 12 th ( bed comfort) WS: Sun 9, Moon 18, Mars 9 LoD, Merc 12, Jup 35 LoE, Ven 14, Sat 7 1 st lord & 7 th lord 3:11; Moon lord & 7th lord 3:11; Sun lord & 7th lord 5:9 So Jupiter AD is capable of giving marriage with good points. Also Jupiter retro may also enhance the result. Since there are no delays, generally 1st sector may be chosen, may be marriage fixed then and conducted later in3rd sector. Sun transit PDF in Jupiter sign in Ketu star from 16 to 28 Dec , Ketu is like Mercury. Jupiter & Mercury have 19 points. So the marriage may happen from 16 to 28 December 1972. Death is in Sun AD. Sun has 20 points for 8th & 12 points for 3rd (life) and Sun is LoE for 8th. So death is possible in Sun AD. Hope I am right. If wrong, please correct. Blessings Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu 14 June 2006 aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Ash,Manoshi,Gita,Manu,Bala,Dadhi,Syndhu and lists, Thanks for participating in the quiz.I was waiting for the analysis done by Rayudu Ji I picked up this chart from our archives vide message no 1540 as an exercise given by Shri Krushna ji to list members.I tried this chart for the date of marriage and reached to Me antara as you have done. The marriage was performed on 28 Dec 1972 just completing 18 years.This is a case of normal marriage. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Respected Rayudu Sir, Ash, Manoshi, Gita, Manu, Bala, Dadhi and list members, Namaskar, > I got one chart of a female native who was born on 16 Dec 1954 at 22:15 hrs in India 19 N 05, 74 E 44. > Please find out the date of marriage of this lady for the practice. I tried to find out the date but I could not. My result was wrong. Let me see whether your approach is according to my approach or different from me.After receiving response from you all we shall check out my wrong approach.. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger. > > Stay connected with your friends even when away from PC. Link: http://in.mobile./new/messenger/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Respected Rayudu Sir, I want to clarify one doubt.Though Manoshi has given her clarification in case of my doubt still I have confusion. In lessons it is everywhere stated that navamsa has equal status as rasi. What does it mean ? Suppose for delay of Sat and Jup when we check up the aspect of Sa and Ju we take the help of aspect in navamsa also. If any planet viz.A,B and C is not aspected by Sa and/or ju in rasi and it is aspected by Sa/Ju in navamsa then delay is considered. On the other hand if none of the planet is aspected by Sa, Ju and those are aspected by Sa,Ju is navamsa then also delay is considered. Take the case of this chart Sa,Ju does not aspect ABC or their lords in rasi and navamsa so there is no delay. But when you look the navamsa leaving the rasi aside.In this Sa is LoC himself , Sa is in house A and conjoined with LoA and LoB both.Then why delay caused by Sa is not taken into account.If, according to Manoshi, navamsa is not to be seen independently, then what is the meaning of equal status of navamsa as rasi chart. I could not follow this. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: Dear Ramesh & others, Sorry, all my previous mails got deleted by mistake, including your data for quiz for marriage. But I noted somewhere like this. DoB 16 Dec 1954, ToB 22:15hrs, PoB 19N05, 74E44 India. Marriage 28Dec 1972, Death 27 May 1992.Hope this data is correct Though belated, I tried the analysis quickly as follows, as far as I know KAS: Rasi: Lagna 0 Leo 58, Sun 1 Sg52, Moon 27 leo17, Merc 26Sco 57, Mars 16 Aqu 30, Jup ®6 Cancer 11, Venus 24 Lib32, Sat 24 lib31 , Rahu 13 Sg 54, Ket 13 ge 54 Navamsa: lagna Aries, Sun Aries Sat & Ven Taurus; Jup Rah in leo; Moon Sagi; Mars Ket Aquar; Merc Pisces In Rasi:Saturn no aspect A,B,C, himself LoB,no aspect LoA,LoC - So no Saturn delay Jupiter no aspect A,B, no aspect LoB , aspects LoA- So no Jupiter delay In Navamsa: Saturn no aspect B, aspects C,in A. no aspect LoA, LoC of Rasi, himself LoB- So no Saturn delay . Jupiter no aspect A,B, no aspect LoA, LoB of Rasi in navamsa- So no Jupiter delay. So start from 18 years legal age from 16 Feb 1972. Then the dasa is Mars MD- Jupiter AD from 18 Feb 1972 to 23 Jan 1973. 7th ( marriage) WS: Sun 14, Moon 26 LoE, Mars 21 LoD, Merc 19, Jup 19, Ven 11, Sat 10 2 nd ( family) WS:Sun 9, Moon 16, Mars 18, Merc 17 LoD, Jup 14, Ven 7, Sat 14 LoE 12 th ( bed comfort) WS: Sun 9, Moon 18, Mars 9 LoD, Merc 12, Jup 35 LoE, Ven 14, Sat 7 1 st lord & 7 th lord 3:11; Moon lord & 7th lord 3:11; Sun lord & 7th lord 5:9 So Jupiter AD is capable of giving marriage with good points. Also Jupiter retro may also enhance the result. Since there are no delays, generally 1st sector may be chosen, may be marriage fixed then and conducted later in3rd sector. Sun transit PDF in Jupiter sign in Ketu star from 16 to 28 Dec , Ketu is like Mercury. Jupiter & Mercury have 19 points. So the marriage may happen from 16 to 28 December 1972. Death is in Sun AD. Sun has 20 points for 8th & 12 points for 3rd (life) and Sun is LoE for 8th. So death is possible in Sun AD. Hope I am right. If wrong, please correct. Blessings Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu 14 June 2006 aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Ash,Manoshi,Gita,Manu,Bala,Dadhi,Syndhu and lists, Thanks for participating in the quiz.I was waiting for the analysis done by Rayudu Ji I picked up this chart from our archives vide message no 1540 as an exercise given by Shri Krushna ji to list members.I tried this chart for the date of marriage and reached to Me antara as you have done. The marriage was performed on 28 Dec 1972 just completing 18 years.This is a case of normal marriage. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Respected Rayudu Sir, Ash, Manoshi, Gita, Manu, Bala, Dadhi and list members, Namaskar, > I got one chart of a female native who was born on 16 Dec 1954 at 22:15 hrs in India 19 N 05, 74 E 44. > Please find out the date of marriage of this lady for the practice. I tried to find out the date but I could not. My result was wrong. Let me see whether your approach is according to my approach or different from me.After receiving response from you all we shall check out my wrong approach.. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger. > > Stay connected with your friends even when away from PC. Link: http://in.mobile./new/messenger/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Dear Ramesh ( Ash, Manoshi and others) I cannot answer you why. I am also a beginner for KAS. As far as I know, see it in Rasi, when Saturn aspects A, B & C or in A, B, & C or aspects LoA , Lo B & LoC , there will be full delay of Saturn .In Rasi, if Jupiter aspects A & B,or in A & B or aspects LoA and LoB ,then there will be delay of Jupiter. Of course there can be both also. Jupiter need aspect C or in C or aspect LoC. See it in Navamsa, when Saturn aspects A, B & C there will be delay of Saturn. When Saturn aspects LoA, LoB and LoC of Rasi in navamsa ( NOT LoA, LOB.LoC in navamsa), then there will be delay of Saturn. Similarly, when Jupiter aspects A and B in Navamsa, there will be delay of Jupiter. When Jupiter aspects LoA and LoB of Rasi in Navamsa (NOT LoA and LoB in Navamsa), there will be delay of Jupiter. The point is you should not take LoA, LoB, LoC in Navamsa independently but ONLY as LoA, LoB & LoC of Rasi in Navamsa, as I understand. Let Krushnaji, Ash, Manoshi and other experts clarify further my understanding as per their lot of experience and give the rules clearly. The laws are likely to change as exceptional cases as per experience with different charts. But let us know clearly what are all the laws presently from experts and let them be specified in the lessons by updating them, including any special cases. For example, recently, it is said that 1st lord & 9th lord in 5:9 is to be considered in navamsa also. Also, as a special case, recently it is said (which I posted in my updated delays mail) that Jupiter in Aquarius in Saturn Rasi but in Jupiter star would moderate Saturn delay, as normally Jupiter in Saturn sign in Rasi/star of Saturn or in sign of Saturn in navamsa or in libra in rasi or navamsa would not be able to moderate the delay of Saturn. Otherwise this confusion would continue for application. Hope this will be of some use to you with my limited knowledge & experience with KAS. Let us learn more from experts & experience. Blessings Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu 14 June 2006. ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Respected Rayudu Sir, I want to clarify one doubt.Though Manoshi has given her clarification in case of my doubt still I have confusion. In lessons it is everywhere stated that navamsa has equal status as rasi. What does it mean ? Suppose for delay of Sat and Jup when we check up the aspect of Sa and Ju we take the help of aspect in navamsa also. If any planet viz.A,B and C is not aspected by Sa and/or ju in rasi and it is aspected by Sa/Ju in navamsa then delay is considered. On the other hand if none of the planet is aspected by Sa, Ju and those are aspected by Sa,Ju is navamsa then also delay is considered. Take the case of this chart Sa,Ju does not aspect ABC or their lords in rasi and navamsa so there is no delay. But when you look the navamsa leaving the rasi aside.In this Sa is LoC himself , Sa is in house A and conjoined with LoA and LoB both.Then why delay caused by Sa is not taken into account.If, according to Manoshi, navamsa is not to be seen independently, then what is the meaning of equal status of navamsa as rasi chart. I could not follow this. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: Dear Ramesh & others, Sorry, all my previous mails got deleted by mistake, including your data for quiz for marriage. But I noted somewhere like this. DoB 16 Dec 1954, ToB 22:15hrs, PoB 19N05, 74E44 India. Marriage 28Dec 1972, Death 27 May 1992.Hope this data is correct Though belated, I tried the analysis quickly as follows, as far as I know KAS: Rasi: Lagna 0 Leo 58, Sun 1 Sg52, Moon 27 leo17, Merc 26Sco 57, Mars 16 Aqu 30, Jup ®6 Cancer 11, Venus 24 Lib32, Sat 24 lib31 , Rahu 13 Sg 54, Ket 13 ge 54 Navamsa: lagna Aries, Sun Aries Sat & Ven Taurus; Jup Rah in leo; Moon Sagi; Mars Ket Aquar; Merc Pisces In Rasi:Saturn no aspect A,B,C, himself LoB,no aspect LoA,LoC - So no Saturn delay Jupiter no aspect A,B, no aspect LoB , aspects LoA- So no Jupiter delay In Navamsa: Saturn no aspect B, aspects C,in A. no aspect LoA, LoC of Rasi, himself LoB- So no Saturn delay . Jupiter no aspect A,B, no aspect LoA, LoB of Rasi in navamsa- So no Jupiter delay. So start from 18 years legal age from 16 Feb 1972. Then the dasa is Mars MD- Jupiter AD from 18 Feb 1972 to 23 Jan 1973. 7th ( marriage) WS: Sun 14, Moon 26 LoE, Mars 21 LoD, Merc 19, Jup 19, Ven 11, Sat 10 2 nd ( family) WS:Sun 9, Moon 16, Mars 18, Merc 17 LoD, Jup 14, Ven 7, Sat 14 LoE 12 th ( bed comfort) WS: Sun 9, Moon 18, Mars 9 LoD, Merc 12, Jup 35 LoE, Ven 14, Sat 7 1 st lord & 7 th lord 3:11; Moon lord & 7th lord 3:11; Sun lord & 7th lord 5:9 So Jupiter AD is capable of giving marriage with good points. Also Jupiter retro may also enhance the result. Since there are no delays, generally 1st sector may be chosen, may be marriage fixed then and conducted later in3rd sector. Sun transit PDF in Jupiter sign in Ketu star from 16 to 28 Dec , Ketu is like Mercury. Jupiter & Mercury have 19 points. So the marriage may happen from 16 to 28 December 1972. Death is in Sun AD. Sun has 20 points for 8th & 12 points for 3rd (life) and Sun is LoE for 8th. So death is possible in Sun AD. Hope I am right. If wrong, please correct. Blessings Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu 14 June 2006 aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Ash,Manoshi,Gita,Manu,Bala,Dadhi,Syndhu and lists, Thanks for participating in the quiz.I was waiting for the analysis done by Rayudu Ji I picked up this chart from our archives vide message no 1540 as an exercise given by Shri Krushna ji to list members.I tried this chart for the date of marriage and reached to Me antara as you have done. The marriage was performed on 28 Dec 1972 just completing 18 years.This is a case of normal marriage. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Respected Rayudu Sir, Ash, Manoshi, Gita, Manu, Bala, Dadhi and list members, Namaskar, > I got one chart of a female native who was born on 16 Dec 1954 at 22:15 hrs in India 19 N 05, 74 E 44. > Please find out the date of marriage of this lady for the practice. I tried to find out the date but I could not. My result was wrong. Let me see whether your approach is according to my approach or different from me.After receiving response from you all we shall check out my wrong approach.. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger. > > Stay connected with your friends even when away from PC. Link: http://in.mobile./new/messenger/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Dear all, From all the posts, this aspects part is still not clear. Does aspect part also include " cojoin " . What if Saturn and Jupiter cojoin LOA,LOB,LOC, does it still fall under the delay category? Can someone please explain " aspect " and " cojoin " . Thanks, Sindhu --- " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > Dear Ramesh ( Ash, Manoshi and others) > > I cannot answer you why. I am also a beginner for > KAS. > > As far as I know, see it in Rasi, when Saturn > aspects A, B & C or in A, B, & C or aspects LoA , Lo > B & LoC , there will be full delay of Saturn .In > Rasi, if Jupiter aspects A & B,or in A & B or > aspects LoA and LoB ,then there will be delay of > Jupiter. Of course there can be both also. Jupiter > need aspect C or in C or aspect LoC. > See it in Navamsa, when Saturn aspects A, B & C > there will be delay of Saturn. When Saturn aspects > LoA, LoB and LoC of Rasi in navamsa ( NOT LoA, > LOB.LoC in navamsa), then there will be delay of > Saturn. Similarly, when Jupiter aspects A and B in > Navamsa, there will be delay of Jupiter. When > Jupiter aspects LoA and LoB of Rasi in Navamsa (NOT > LoA and LoB in Navamsa), there will be delay of > Jupiter. > > The point is you should not take LoA, LoB, LoC in > Navamsa independently but ONLY as LoA, LoB & LoC of > Rasi in Navamsa, as I understand. > > Let Krushnaji, Ash, Manoshi and other experts > clarify further my understanding as per their lot of > experience and give the rules clearly. > > The laws are likely to change as exceptional cases > as per experience with different charts. > But let us know clearly what are all the laws > presently from experts and let them be specified in > the lessons by updating them, including any special > cases. For example, recently, it is said that 1st > lord & 9th lord in 5:9 is to be considered in > navamsa also. Also, as a special case, recently it > is said (which I posted in my updated delays mail) > that Jupiter in Aquarius in Saturn Rasi but in > Jupiter star would moderate Saturn delay, as > normally Jupiter in Saturn sign in Rasi/star of > Saturn or in sign of Saturn in navamsa or in libra > in rasi or navamsa would not be able to moderate > the delay of Saturn. > Otherwise this confusion would continue for > application. > Hope this will be of some use to you with my > limited knowledge & experience with KAS. > Let us learn more from experts & experience. > Blessings > Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu > 14 June 2006. > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Respected Rayudu Sir, > I want to clarify one doubt.Though Manoshi has given > her clarification in case of my doubt still I have > confusion. In lessons it is everywhere stated that > navamsa has equal status as rasi. What does it mean > ? Suppose for delay of Sat and Jup when we check up > the aspect of Sa and Ju we take the help of aspect > in navamsa also. If any planet viz.A,B and C is not > aspected by Sa and/or ju in rasi and it is aspected > by Sa/Ju in navamsa then delay is considered. > On the other hand if none of the planet is aspected > by Sa, Ju and those are aspected by Sa,Ju is navamsa > then also delay is considered. > Take the case of this chart Sa,Ju does not aspect > ABC or their lords in rasi and navamsa so there is > no delay. > But when you look the navamsa leaving the rasi > aside.In this Sa is LoC himself , Sa is in house A > and conjoined with LoA and LoB both.Then why delay > caused by Sa is not taken into account.If, according > to Manoshi, navamsa is not to be seen independently, > then what is the meaning of equal status of navamsa > as rasi chart. I could not follow this. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > Dear Ramesh & others, > > Sorry, all my previous mails got deleted by mistake, > including your data for quiz for marriage. But I > noted somewhere like this. DoB 16 Dec 1954, ToB > 22:15hrs, PoB 19N05, 74E44 India. Marriage 28Dec > 1972, Death 27 May 1992.Hope this data is correct > > Though belated, I tried the analysis quickly as > follows, as far as I know KAS: > Rasi: Lagna 0 Leo 58, Sun 1 Sg52, Moon 27 leo17, > Merc 26Sco 57, Mars 16 Aqu 30, Jup ®6 Cancer 11, > Venus 24 Lib32, Sat 24 lib31 , Rahu 13 Sg 54, Ket 13 > ge 54 > Navamsa: lagna Aries, Sun Aries Sat & Ven Taurus; > Jup Rah in leo; Moon Sagi; Mars Ket Aquar; Merc > Pisces > > In Rasi:Saturn no aspect A,B,C, himself LoB,no > aspect LoA,LoC - So no Saturn delay > Jupiter no aspect A,B, no aspect LoB , aspects LoA- > So no Jupiter delay > In Navamsa: Saturn no aspect B, aspects C,in A. no > aspect LoA, LoC of Rasi, himself LoB- So no Saturn > delay . Jupiter no aspect A,B, no aspect LoA, LoB of > Rasi in navamsa- So no Jupiter delay. > > So start from 18 years legal age from 16 Feb 1972. > Then the dasa is Mars MD- Jupiter AD from 18 Feb > 1972 to 23 Jan 1973. > > 7th ( marriage) WS: Sun 14, Moon 26 LoE, Mars 21 > LoD, Merc 19, Jup 19, Ven 11, > Sat 10 > 2 nd ( family) WS:Sun 9, Moon 16, Mars 18, Merc 17 > LoD, Jup 14, Ven 7, Sat 14 LoE > 12 th ( bed comfort) WS: Sun 9, Moon 18, Mars 9 LoD, > Merc 12, Jup 35 LoE, Ven 14, Sat 7 > > 1 st lord & 7 th lord 3:11; Moon lord & 7th lord 3:11; > Sun lord & 7th lord 5:9 > > So Jupiter AD is capable of giving marriage with > good points. Also Jupiter retro may also enhance the > result. > > Since there are no delays, generally 1st sector may > be chosen, may be marriage fixed then and conducted > later in3rd sector. > > Sun transit PDF in Jupiter sign in Ketu star from 16 > to 28 Dec , Ketu is like Mercury. Jupiter & Mercury > have 19 points. So the marriage may happen from 16 > to 28 December 1972. > > Death is in Sun AD. Sun has 20 points for 8th & 12 > points for 3rd (life) and Sun is LoE for 8th. So > death is possible in Sun AD. > > Hope I am right. If wrong, please correct. > Blessings > Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu > 14 June 2006 > > aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 > wrote: Dear Ash,Manoshi,Gita,Manu,Bala,Dadhi,Syndhu > and lists, > Thanks for participating in the quiz.I was waiting > for the analysis > done by Rayudu Ji I picked up this chart from our > archives vide > message no 1540 as an exercise given by Shri Krushna > ji to list > members.I tried this chart for the date of marriage > and reached to Me > antara as you have done. > The marriage was performed on 28 Dec 1972 just > completing 18 > years.This is a case of normal marriage. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > , > ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > > > Respected Rayudu Sir, Ash, Manoshi, Gita, Manu, > Bala, Dadhi and list > members, Namaskar, > > I got one chart of a female native who was born on > 16 Dec 1954 at > 22:15 hrs in India 19 N 05, 74 E 44. > > Please find out the date of marriage of this lady > for the > practice. I tried to find out the date but I could > not. My result was > wrong. Let me see whether your approach is according > to my approach or > different from me.After receiving response from you > all we shall check > out my wrong approach.. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://in.messenger. > > > > Stay connected with your friends even when away > from PC. Link: > http://in.mobile./new/messenger/ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " > PEMMARAJU V.R. RAYUDU B.E.,M.Tech., Dip.(Management > & French) > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Dear Sindhu, Yes, if they cojoin or themselves lords, then also the delay is taken( as far as I know).Please go on trying known charts. Of course. sometimes we may find delay, but still marraige may happen before delay period.They may be of special cases which may need rectification of birth time or some other special laws may have to be applied and such charts are to be sorted out later on with experrts of KAS in due course. Bleessings PemmarajuV.R.Rayudu Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote: Dear all, From all the posts, this aspects part is still not clear. Does aspect part also include " cojoin " . What if Saturn and Jupiter cojoin LOA,LOB,LOC, does it still fall under the delay category? Can someone please explain " aspect " and " cojoin " . Thanks, Sindhu --- " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > Dear Ramesh ( Ash, Manoshi and others) > > I cannot answer you why. I am also a beginner for > KAS. > > As far as I know, see it in Rasi, when Saturn > aspects A, B & C or in A, B, & C or aspects LoA , Lo > B & LoC , there will be full delay of Saturn .In > Rasi, if Jupiter aspects A & B,or in A & B or > aspects LoA and LoB ,then there will be delay of > Jupiter. Of course there can be both also. Jupiter > need aspect C or in C or aspect LoC. > See it in Navamsa, when Saturn aspects A, B & C > there will be delay of Saturn. When Saturn aspects > LoA, LoB and LoC of Rasi in navamsa ( NOT LoA, > LOB.LoC in navamsa), then there will be delay of > Saturn. Similarly, when Jupiter aspects A and B in > Navamsa, there will be delay of Jupiter. When > Jupiter aspects LoA and LoB of Rasi in Navamsa (NOT > LoA and LoB in Navamsa), there will be delay of > Jupiter. > > The point is you should not take LoA, LoB, LoC in > Navamsa independently but ONLY as LoA, LoB & LoC of > Rasi in Navamsa, as I understand. > > Let Krushnaji, Ash, Manoshi and other experts > clarify further my understanding as per their lot of > experience and give the rules clearly. > > The laws are likely to change as exceptional cases > as per experience with different charts. > But let us know clearly what are all the laws > presently from experts and let them be specified in > the lessons by updating them, including any special > cases. For example, recently, it is said that 1st > lord & 9th lord in 5:9 is to be considered in > navamsa also. Also, as a special case, recently it > is said (which I posted in my updated delays mail) > that Jupiter in Aquarius in Saturn Rasi but in > Jupiter star would moderate Saturn delay, as > normally Jupiter in Saturn sign in Rasi/star of > Saturn or in sign of Saturn in navamsa or in libra > in rasi or navamsa would not be able to moderate > the delay of Saturn. > Otherwise this confusion would continue for > application. > Hope this will be of some use to you with my > limited knowledge & experience with KAS. > Let us learn more from experts & experience. > Blessings > Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu > 14 June 2006. > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Respected Rayudu Sir, > I want to clarify one doubt.Though Manoshi has given > her clarification in case of my doubt still I have > confusion. In lessons it is everywhere stated that > navamsa has equal status as rasi. What does it mean > ? Suppose for delay of Sat and Jup when we check up > the aspect of Sa and Ju we take the help of aspect > in navamsa also. If any planet viz.A,B and C is not > aspected by Sa and/or ju in rasi and it is aspected > by Sa/Ju in navamsa then delay is considered. > On the other hand if none of the planet is aspected > by Sa, Ju and those are aspected by Sa,Ju is navamsa > then also delay is considered. > Take the case of this chart Sa,Ju does not aspect > ABC or their lords in rasi and navamsa so there is > no delay. > But when you look the navamsa leaving the rasi > aside.In this Sa is LoC himself , Sa is in house A > and conjoined with LoA and LoB both.Then why delay > caused by Sa is not taken into account.If, according > to Manoshi, navamsa is not to be seen independently, > then what is the meaning of equal status of navamsa > as rasi chart. I could not follow this. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > Dear Ramesh & others, > > Sorry, all my previous mails got deleted by mistake, > including your data for quiz for marriage. But I > noted somewhere like this. DoB 16 Dec 1954, ToB > 22:15hrs, PoB 19N05, 74E44 India. Marriage 28Dec > 1972, Death 27 May 1992.Hope this data is correct > > Though belated, I tried the analysis quickly as > follows, as far as I know KAS: > Rasi: Lagna 0 Leo 58, Sun 1 Sg52, Moon 27 leo17, > Merc 26Sco 57, Mars 16 Aqu 30, Jup ®6 Cancer 11, > Venus 24 Lib32, Sat 24 lib31 , Rahu 13 Sg 54, Ket 13 > ge 54 > Navamsa: lagna Aries, Sun Aries Sat & Ven Taurus; > Jup Rah in leo; Moon Sagi; Mars Ket Aquar; Merc > Pisces > > In Rasi:Saturn no aspect A,B,C, himself LoB,no > aspect LoA,LoC - So no Saturn delay > Jupiter no aspect A,B, no aspect LoB , aspects LoA- > So no Jupiter delay > In Navamsa: Saturn no aspect B, aspects C,in A. no > aspect LoA, LoC of Rasi, himself LoB- So no Saturn > delay . Jupiter no aspect A,B, no aspect LoA, LoB of > Rasi in navamsa- So no Jupiter delay. > > So start from 18 years legal age from 16 Feb 1972. > Then the dasa is Mars MD- Jupiter AD from 18 Feb > 1972 to 23 Jan 1973. > > 7th ( marriage) WS: Sun 14, Moon 26 LoE, Mars 21 > LoD, Merc 19, Jup 19, Ven 11, > Sat 10 > 2 nd ( family) WS:Sun 9, Moon 16, Mars 18, Merc 17 > LoD, Jup 14, Ven 7, Sat 14 LoE > 12 th ( bed comfort) WS: Sun 9, Moon 18, Mars 9 LoD, > Merc 12, Jup 35 LoE, Ven 14, Sat 7 > > 1 st lord & 7 th lord 3:11; Moon lord & 7th lord 3:11; > Sun lord & 7th lord 5:9 > > So Jupiter AD is capable of giving marriage with > good points. Also Jupiter retro may also enhance the > result. > > Since there are no delays, generally 1st sector may > be chosen, may be marriage fixed then and conducted > later in3rd sector. > > Sun transit PDF in Jupiter sign in Ketu star from 16 > to 28 Dec , Ketu is like Mercury. Jupiter & Mercury > have 19 points. So the marriage may happen from 16 > to 28 December 1972. > > Death is in Sun AD. Sun has 20 points for 8th & 12 > points for 3rd (life) and Sun is LoE for 8th. So > death is possible in Sun AD. > > Hope I am right. If wrong, please correct. > Blessings > Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu > 14 June 2006 > > aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 > wrote: Dear Ash,Manoshi,Gita,Manu,Bala,Dadhi,Syndhu > and lists, > Thanks for participating in the quiz.I was waiting > for the analysis > done by Rayudu Ji I picked up this chart from our > archives vide > message no 1540 as an exercise given by Shri Krushna > ji to list > members.I tried this chart for the date of marriage > and reached to Me > antara as you have done. > The marriage was performed on 28 Dec 1972 just > completing 18 > years.This is a case of normal marriage. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > , > ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > > > Respected Rayudu Sir, Ash, Manoshi, Gita, Manu, > Bala, Dadhi and list > members, Namaskar, > > I got one chart of a female native who was born on > 16 Dec 1954 at > 22:15 hrs in India 19 N 05, 74 E 44. > > Please find out the date of marriage of this lady > for the > practice. I tried to find out the date but I could > not. My result was > wrong. Let me see whether your approach is according > to my approach or > different from me.After receiving response from you > all we shall check > out my wrong approach.. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://in.messenger. > > > > Stay connected with your friends even when away > from PC. Link: > http://in.mobile./new/messenger/ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " > PEMMARAJU V.R. RAYUDU B.E.,M.Tech., Dip.(Management > & French) > === message truncated === " Daivagnaratna & Jyotish Aradhakulu " PEMMARAJU V.R. RAYUDU B.E.,M.Tech., Dip.(Management & French) International Consultant & Researcher- Astrology Former Dy.Director, Defence R & D Laboratory.,Govt. of India 67 Vinayanagar, Saidabad, Hyderabad-500059,A.P. 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Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Dear Premmarajuji, Thank you very much. Sindhu --- " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu wrote: > Dear Sindhu, > Yes, if they cojoin or themselves lords, then also > the delay is taken( as far as I know).Please go on > trying known charts. > Of course. sometimes we may find delay, but still > marraige may happen before delay period.They may be > of special cases which may need rectification of > birth time or some other special laws may have to be > applied and such charts are to be sorted out later > on with experrts of KAS in due course. > Bleessings > PemmarajuV.R.Rayudu > > Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote: > Dear all, > > From all the posts, this aspects part is still not > clear. Does aspect part also include " cojoin " . What > if > Saturn and Jupiter cojoin LOA,LOB,LOC, does it still > fall under the delay category? > > Can someone please explain " aspect " and " cojoin " . > > Thanks, > Sindhu > > --- " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu > wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh ( Ash, Manoshi and others) > > > > I cannot answer you why. I am also a beginner for > > KAS. > > > > As far as I know, see it in Rasi, when Saturn > > aspects A, B & C or in A, B, & C or aspects LoA , > Lo > > B & LoC , there will be full delay of Saturn .In > > Rasi, if Jupiter aspects A & B,or in A & B or > > aspects LoA and LoB ,then there will be delay of > > Jupiter. Of course there can be both also. Jupiter > > need aspect C or in C or aspect LoC. > > See it in Navamsa, when Saturn aspects A, B & C > > there will be delay of Saturn. When Saturn aspects > > LoA, LoB and LoC of Rasi in navamsa ( NOT LoA, > > LOB.LoC in navamsa), then there will be delay of > > Saturn. Similarly, when Jupiter aspects A and B in > > Navamsa, there will be delay of Jupiter. When > > Jupiter aspects LoA and LoB of Rasi in Navamsa > (NOT > > LoA and LoB in Navamsa), there will be delay of > > Jupiter. > > > > The point is you should not take LoA, LoB, LoC in > > Navamsa independently but ONLY as LoA, LoB & LoC > of > > Rasi in Navamsa, as I understand. > > > > Let Krushnaji, Ash, Manoshi and other experts > > clarify further my understanding as per their lot > of > > experience and give the rules clearly. > > > > The laws are likely to change as exceptional cases > > as per experience with different charts. > > But let us know clearly what are all the laws > > presently from experts and let them be specified > in > > the lessons by updating them, including any > special > > cases. For example, recently, it is said that 1st > > lord & 9th lord in 5:9 is to be considered in > > navamsa also. Also, as a special case, recently it > > is said (which I posted in my updated delays mail) > > that Jupiter in Aquarius in Saturn Rasi but in > > Jupiter star would moderate Saturn delay, as > > normally Jupiter in Saturn sign in Rasi/star of > > Saturn or in sign of Saturn in navamsa or in libra > > in rasi or navamsa would not be able to moderate > > the delay of Saturn. > > Otherwise this confusion would continue for > > application. > > Hope this will be of some use to you with my > > limited knowledge & experience with KAS. > > Let us learn more from experts & experience. > > Blessings > > Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu > > 14 June 2006. > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 > wrote: > > Respected Rayudu Sir, > > I want to clarify one doubt.Though Manoshi has > given > > her clarification in case of my doubt still I have > > confusion. In lessons it is everywhere stated that > > navamsa has equal status as rasi. What does it > mean > > ? Suppose for delay of Sat and Jup when we check > up > > the aspect of Sa and Ju we take the help of aspect > > in navamsa also. If any planet viz.A,B and C is > not > > aspected by Sa and/or ju in rasi and it is > aspected > > by Sa/Ju in navamsa then delay is considered. > > On the other hand if none of the planet is > aspected > > by Sa, Ju and those are aspected by Sa,Ju is > navamsa > > then also delay is considered. > > Take the case of this chart Sa,Ju does not aspect > > ABC or their lords in rasi and navamsa so there is > > no delay. > > But when you look the navamsa leaving the rasi > > aside.In this Sa is LoC himself , Sa is in house A > > and conjoined with LoA and LoB both.Then why delay > > caused by Sa is not taken into account.If, > according > > to Manoshi, navamsa is not to be seen > independently, > > then what is the meaning of equal status of > navamsa > > as rasi chart. I could not follow this. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > " Pemmaraju V.R. Rayudu " <pvrrayudu > wrote: > > Dear Ramesh & others, > > > > Sorry, all my previous mails got deleted by > mistake, > > including your data for quiz for marriage. But I > > noted somewhere like this. DoB 16 Dec 1954, ToB > > 22:15hrs, PoB 19N05, 74E44 India. Marriage 28Dec > > 1972, Death 27 May 1992.Hope this data is correct > > > > Though belated, I tried the analysis quickly as > > follows, as far as I know KAS: > > Rasi: Lagna 0 Leo 58, Sun 1 Sg52, Moon 27 leo17, > > Merc 26Sco 57, Mars 16 Aqu 30, Jup ®6 Cancer 11, > > Venus 24 Lib32, Sat 24 lib31 , Rahu 13 Sg 54, Ket > 13 > > ge 54 > > Navamsa: lagna Aries, Sun Aries Sat & Ven Taurus; > > Jup Rah in leo; Moon Sagi; Mars Ket Aquar; Merc > > Pisces > > > > In Rasi:Saturn no aspect A,B,C, himself LoB,no > > aspect LoA,LoC - So no Saturn delay > > Jupiter no aspect A,B, no aspect LoB , aspects > LoA- > > So no Jupiter delay > > In Navamsa: Saturn no aspect B, aspects C,in A. no > > aspect LoA, LoC of Rasi, himself LoB- So no Saturn > > delay . Jupiter no aspect A,B, no aspect LoA, LoB > of > > Rasi in navamsa- So no Jupiter delay. > > > > So start from 18 years legal age from 16 Feb 1972. > > Then the dasa is Mars MD- Jupiter AD from 18 Feb > > 1972 to 23 Jan 1973. > > > > 7th ( marriage) WS: Sun 14, Moon 26 LoE, Mars 21 > > LoD, Merc 19, Jup 19, Ven 11, > > Sat 10 > > 2 nd ( family) WS:Sun 9, Moon 16, Mars 18, Merc 17 > > LoD, Jup 14, Ven 7, Sat 14 LoE > > 12 th ( bed comfort) WS: Sun 9, Moon 18, Mars 9 > LoD, > > Merc 12, Jup 35 LoE, Ven 14, Sat 7 > > > > 1 st lord & 7 th lord 3:11; Moon lord & 7th lord > 3:11; > > Sun lord & 7th lord 5:9 > > > > So Jupiter AD is capable of giving marriage with > > good points. Also Jupiter retro may also enhance > the > > result. > > > > Since there are no delays, generally 1st sector > may > > be chosen, may be marriage fixed then and > conducted > > later in3rd sector. > > > > Sun transit PDF in Jupiter sign in Ketu star from > 16 > > to 28 Dec , Ketu is like Mercury. Jupiter & > Mercury > > have 19 points. So the marriage may happen from 16 > > to 28 December 1972. > > > > Death is in Sun AD. Sun has 20 points for 8th & 12 > > points for 3rd (life) and Sun is LoE for 8th. So > > death is possible in Sun AD. > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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