Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 03.07.2006 Hello Rayudu Sir & Active members of KAS, By this mail I do NOT want to divert the studies / analysis and the fantastic attempts of you all. BUT while studying KAS with the help of its software and the analysis of all its active members, I am inclined to believe that: 1. THE RESULTS OF THE SOLUTIONS OF SEVERAL EXERCISES DONE BY THE ACTIVE MEMBERS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A LITTLE DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE ACTUAL TRUTH. THE ATTEMPTS WERE ALL VERY GENUINE. THE ANALYSIS WAS VERY LOGICAL. THE CALCULATIONS WERE NEAR TO PERFECT. BUT STILL THE RESULT (CORRECT DATES) WAS A BIT AWAY FROM THE TRUTH. Sirs, this is NOT to find fault with the system or your analysis. This is jut an argument I wanted to put forth as it might lead to surfacing of a common error. In this context, I wish to put my thoughts that: IN KAS SYSTEM THE DATES OF THE MD & AD come a little different from the MD & AD when calculated by the vedic system of astrology. I have experienced it. EXAMPLE: Take an EXAMPLE of DOB 22.05.1959, 22:40 HRS at Lattitude 26:55.N and Longitude 75:55.E, DST:No (India born). The MD periods ( of all planets) as per KAS system come approximately an year earlier when compared to the calculations by the vedic system. The anatar dasha's therefore all also earlier when compared to the dates arrived by the vedic system. IT COULD BE DUE TO THE KAY factor on which KAS is based. MY QUESTIONS ARE: 1. The MD & AD time periods must come out to be same irrespective of which ever astrological method the calculations are done. 2. A differecne of 1 year in the dasha periods are too high for anyone to arrive at the correct date. After all it is the dasha period which concentrate the result. 3. Is it due to the above fact that the results of the various exercises of the active members of KAS gets differed by a small margin of dates. I again clarifiy that I have full respect for KAS and have no intention to find fault with it. I am trying to pop up a questions just out of my curiosity. May be the answers by the active members clarify the doubts in the minds of many other persons also who are not able to put up such questions in the forum. I myself have now started considering KAS as the most important tool to arrive at the correct dates. I again plead sorry if I have hurt the feelings of the actively involved members. BUT CAN I GET THE ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS. May be the answers would catapult KAS higher. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu wrote : >Dear Ramesh & Gita, > Thank you for your reply. > No more comments except to say that the girl, as I have already said, has no more important events other than love affairs & this marriage, the time of birth even it is changed by about 2 hours (which is too much!) either way it is still Gemini or Cancer lagna and the present KAS laws, as we know, would not apply to justify the AD of marriage before delay period. > Since there is nobody else to analyze this chart to clear our doubts, let us leave it at this stage instead of exchanging our ignorance, wasting our time and energy anymore. > Blessings > Pemmaraju VR Rayudu > 3 July 2006 > > >ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Respected Rayudu Sir and Gita, >Gita is correct that wothout knowing or verifying the time of birth, nothing can be done. Whatever data is given by the native, we have to proceed. if evernts are matching then we may assume the correct time of birth otherwirse not. >Same case is here with this chart . Date of marriage does not tally with the chart. You tried to rectify the time of birth, then also it does not match. >After considering the date of marriage as a correct time of event, we are trying to find out the event during its MD and antara. >But I do not agree on this point that since marriage took place before the delay is over so marriage broke.There are the reasons too in the chart for separation or unhappiness in the married life. Unhappiness and separation or divorce is clearly visible in the chart whether the asc is Gemini or Cancer. >In case of Gemini asc. delay is due to Jup is visible. But marriage took place before the delay is over. It is fact and truth.During this time Ke antara was running. So tried to reason out Ke antara and you also tried to proof it by changing the Asc as Cancer. >All of us are not satisfied with the reasoning based as per KAS byelaws. >Even when you changed the asc as Cancer then also it does not satisfy the rules. We can come to the conclusion the either TOB given by the native is wrong or something we are overlooking the important factors. >So Gita has rightly mentioned that unless we cross check few more past events, we can not rely upon this time of birth. >Thanks and regards. >Ramesh Mishra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Dear Nikhilesh, Namaskar, Thanks for taking interest in KAS. First point is when you are taking help of this system then keep all other systems of astrology aside. Please do not mix up the KAS with other system. In this manner you may confuse. Using KAY is mandatory in this system. When you apply KAY it is evident MD and AD period may vary. It is not as important MD and AD as is important the period of event. In other system MD and AD period may vary a little with KAS, but the timing of event comes very closer in this system very close to 13 days. First you analyse the chart of known event with the help of KAS and go through the KAS laws, you will come to know yourself. When a person like me is unable to analyse the chart it does not mean that system is faulty. You may take the help of all lessons and archives and use strictly Krushna's Ayanmsa. You will understand its utility after a few practice. Thanks amd regards. Ramesh Mishra nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: 03.07.2006 Hello Rayudu Sir & Active members of KAS, By this mail I do NOT want to divert the studies / analysis and the fantastic attempts of you all. BUT while studying KAS with the help of its software and the analysis of all its active members, I am inclined to believe that: 1. THE RESULTS OF THE SOLUTIONS OF SEVERAL EXERCISES DONE BY THE ACTIVE MEMBERS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A LITTLE DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE ACTUAL TRUTH. THE ATTEMPTS WERE ALL VERY GENUINE. THE ANALYSIS WAS VERY LOGICAL. THE CALCULATIONS WERE NEAR TO PERFECT. BUT STILL THE RESULT (CORRECT DATES) WAS A BIT AWAY FROM THE TRUTH. Sirs, this is NOT to find fault with the system or your analysis. This is jut an argument I wanted to put forth as it might lead to surfacing of a common error. In this context, I wish to put my thoughts that: IN KAS SYSTEM THE DATES OF THE MD & AD come a little different from the MD & AD when calculated by the vedic system of astrology. I have experienced it. EXAMPLE: Take an EXAMPLE of DOB 22.05.1959, 22:40 HRS at Lattitude 26:55.N and Longitude 75:55.E, DST:No (India born). The MD periods ( of all planets) as per KAS system come approximately an year earlier when compared to the calculations by the vedic system. The anatar dasha's therefore all also earlier when compared to the dates arrived by the vedic system. IT COULD BE DUE TO THE KAY factor on which KAS is based. MY QUESTIONS ARE: 1. The MD & AD time periods must come out to be same irrespective of which ever astrological method the calculations are done. 2. A differecne of 1 year in the dasha periods are too high for anyone to arrive at the correct date. After all it is the dasha period which concentrate the result. 3. Is it due to the above fact that the results of the various exercises of the active members of KAS gets differed by a small margin of dates. I again clarifiy that I have full respect for KAS and have no intention to find fault with it. I am trying to pop up a questions just out of my curiosity. May be the answers by the active members clarify the doubts in the minds of many other persons also who are not able to put up such questions in the forum. I myself have now started considering KAS as the most important tool to arrive at the correct dates. I again plead sorry if I have hurt the feelings of the actively involved members. BUT CAN I GET THE ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS. May be the answers would catapult KAS higher. Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 Pemmaraju V.R.Rayudu wrote : >Dear Ramesh & Gita, > Thank you for your reply. > No more comments except to say that the girl, as I have already said, has no more important events other than love affairs & this marriage, the time of birth even it is changed by about 2 hours (which is too much!) either way it is still Gemini or Cancer lagna and the present KAS laws, as we know, would not apply to justify the AD of marriage before delay period. > Since there is nobody else to analyze this chart to clear our doubts, let us leave it at this stage instead of exchanging our ignorance, wasting our time and energy anymore. > Blessings > Pemmaraju VR Rayudu > 3 July 2006 > > >ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Respected Rayudu Sir and Gita, >Gita is correct that wothout knowing or verifying the time of birth, nothing can be done. Whatever data is given by the native, we have to proceed. if evernts are matching then we may assume the correct time of birth otherwirse not. >Same case is here with this chart . Date of marriage does not tally with the chart. You tried to rectify the time of birth, then also it does not match. >After considering the date of marriage as a correct time of event, we are trying to find out the event during its MD and antara. >But I do not agree on this point that since marriage took place before the delay is over so marriage broke.There are the reasons too in the chart for separation or unhappiness in the married life. Unhappiness and separation or divorce is clearly visible in the chart whether the asc is Gemini or Cancer. >In case of Gemini asc. delay is due to Jup is visible. But marriage took place before the delay is over. It is fact and truth.During this time Ke antara was running. So tried to reason out Ke antara and you also tried to proof it by changing the Asc as Cancer. >All of us are not satisfied with the reasoning based as per KAS byelaws. >Even when you changed the asc as Cancer then also it does not satisfy the rules. We can come to the conclusion the either TOB given by the native is wrong or something we are overlooking the important factors. >So Gita has rightly mentioned that unless we cross check few more past events, we can not rely upon this time of birth. >Thanks and regards. >Ramesh Mishra > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 03.07.2006 THANKS Ramesh ji, As I am new to KAS and have comparitively more information on the other system, I tend to mix up. I would now try and concentrate only on KAS of the known matters so that the answer / result is the same by both the systems of astrology. Thanks again for your prompt reply, Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 ramesh mishra wrote : >Dear Nikhilesh, Namaskar, > Thanks for taking interest in KAS. First point is when you are taking help of this system then keep all other systems of astrology aside. Please do not mix up the KAS with other system. In this manner you may confuse. > Using KAY is mandatory in this system. When you apply KAY it is evident MD and AD period may vary. It is not as important MD and AD as is important the period of event. In other system MD and AD period may vary a little with KAS, > but the timing of event comes very closer in this system very close to 13 days. > First you analyse the chart of known event with the help of KAS and go through the KAS laws, you will come to know yourself. > When a person like me is unable to analyse the chart it does not mean that system is faulty. > You may take the help of all lessons and archives and use strictly Krushna's Ayanmsa. You will understand its utility after a few practice. > Thanks amd regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Dear Nikhlesh, Ramesh already gave the explanation. Due to KAS ayanamsa difference, the dasa periods & sometimes the planetary positions also would be different.The timing of events would not meet the events sometimes due to restrictions of the present KAS laws and/ or sometimes due to the analyser's ignorance, lack of experience, lack of intuitive intelligence, lack of imaginative faculties on the circumstances/environment etc . Please try the KAS yourself. Blessings Pemmaraju VR Rayudu nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: 03.07.2006 THANKS Ramesh ji, As I am new to KAS and have comparitively more information on the other system, I tend to mix up. I would now try and concentrate only on KAS of the known matters so that the answer / result is the same by both the systems of astrology. Thanks again for your prompt reply, Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 ramesh mishra wrote : >Dear Nikhilesh, Namaskar, > Thanks for taking interest in KAS. First point is when you are taking help of this system then keep all other systems of astrology aside. Please do not mix up the KAS with other system. In this manner you may confuse. > Using KAY is mandatory in this system. When you apply KAY it is evident MD and AD period may vary. It is not as important MD and AD as is important the period of event. In other system MD and AD period may vary a little with KAS, > but the timing of event comes very closer in this system very close to 13 days. > First you analyse the chart of known event with the help of KAS and go through the KAS laws, you will come to know yourself. > When a person like me is unable to analyse the chart it does not mean that system is faulty. > You may take the help of all lessons and archives and use strictly Krushna's Ayanmsa. You will understand its utility after a few practice. > Thanks amd regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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