A chart for discussion and study--ALL-(details)

July 20, 2006

Dear All and Krushna ji,

The lady is divorced...which I could not see from the chart. I would

like to have more opinions on this.

Planet Degrees

As 14 Vi 43

Su 27 Aq 18

Mo 10 Ta 20

Ma 25 Sg 54

MeR 3 Pi 25

Ju 10 Cp 31

Ve 19 Aq 40

Sa 21 Ta 38

Ra 21 Sg 2

Ke 21 Ge 2

Marriage timing:

Saturn is causing delay and jupiter is aspecting saturn. Jupiter is in

Saturn sign so will it reduce dalay? lets s ee other qualities of

jupiter too. It is in moon nakshatra, mars navamsa, aspected by 6th lord

saturn.

She got married in 1994 november (if you take delay moderation by

jupiter in consideration, marriage time is right). Yes Ramesh, it was a

love marriage...against her parents wishes (as people said), though the

parents disagree that they were against it.

child was born in 1996 june (saturn has high points for 11th house, 5th

house points are low indicating a girl child).

separation in year 2000

legal separation (divorce) in 2006 March

Acquired property(house) in 2005 April (sun antra with high points for

4th)

has done masters in personal management and also English. She is

working. Is in India. First job sometime in 1996-97.

How do we judge this chart?

--Manoshi

, ramesh mishra

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Hello Manoshi, Namaskar,

> The lagna of this native is rising with 14 Vi 43. The Su to Ve

distance is OK < 43 deg but Ve is ahead of Su. Therefore Ve is weak and

combust.

> NK and FK both is Ve who has gone to 6th house and aspected by 6th

lord Sa,

> it seems that native is not interested in material enjoyment.

> There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Su in 8th house.

> Me/Ve 2/12 and 6/8 in navamsa, Me/Ju 3/11 and 5/9 . Su/Sa 4/10 and

2/12, Ma/Ve 3/11 and 5/9

> Ve has gone to the navamsa of Ju who is LoD for 7th

> There is full delay caused by Sa, though delay is moderated by the

aspect of Ju on Sa it is cancelled due to presence of Ju in Sa sign.

Therefore delay will be over when Sa enters aries sometime in Apr last

week of 1998. That time native was passing through Me antara in Ra main

period .Next antara is followed by Ke. Ke is SD to Me and Me is weak for

7th house hence elminated.Next comes the antara of Ve . Ve is 2nd lord

and aspected by Sa , so looses its quality. Therefore Ve antara is also

eliminated. Su antara is running through 26 Jun 2004 till 20 May 2005.

Sun is LoE and has 17 points for 7th house in WS. Su might have given

marriage in its third sector in between Feb/2005 to May/2005.

> Most probably in the month of Mar 2005 when Su was transiting in

Pisces.

> I do not know what is the fact. Manoshi please guide me if I am wrong

anywhere.

> This chart is showing love marriage. I guess native might have gone

against the will of his/her father and married.

> The native has good relationship with his/her spouse and I do not find

any multiple relationship.

> There may be some insatisfactory relationship between them due to the

aspect of Sa on both the luminaries and karak Ve.

> I may be totally wrong also but the fact may be highlighted by

Manoshi.

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> Manoshi Chatterjee khallopapa wrote:

> Dear All,

>

> I got this chart yesterday. I have to confirm the marriage date yet.

> Chart seems to be right as I matched a few events. I want to discuss

> about what you can predict about the married life, what about

> multilple relationships/marriage, if anything can be seen from the

> chart. I would like to request Ash as well to give his inputs for

> learning purpose.

>

> 10th March 1973

> 19:57

> Bombay

>

> I will post about what I could see and what I couldnt in a day or

> two.

>

> thanks

> Manoshi

> Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

>

July 20, 2006

Dear Manoshi,

I did say in my mail, that if the chart was female more chances of

marriage in Ju antra which is the exact antra she got married in.

/message/12365

Manoshi, here Ju is in capricorn so it can't check the delay of Sa.

However, in this case, I had selected Ju antra based on 2 points one

that the chart was that of a female and secondly lagna and 9th lord

of navamsa are in 5:9 so there is blessing which might reduce delay.

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " Manoshi

Chatterjee " <khallopapa wrote:

>

> Dear All and Krushna ji,

>

> The lady is divorced...which I could not see from the chart. I

would

> like to have more opinions on this.

>

> Planet Degrees

> As 14 Vi 43

> Su 27 Aq 18

> Mo 10 Ta 20

> Ma 25 Sg 54

> MeR 3 Pi 25

> Ju 10 Cp 31

> Ve 19 Aq 40

> Sa 21 Ta 38

> Ra 21 Sg 2

> Ke 21 Ge 2

>

> Marriage timing:

>

> Saturn is causing delay and jupiter is aspecting saturn. Jupiter

is in

> Saturn sign so will it reduce dalay? lets s ee other qualities of

> jupiter too. It is in moon nakshatra, mars navamsa, aspected by

6th lord

> saturn.

>

> She got married in 1994 november (if you take delay moderation by

> jupiter in consideration, marriage time is right). Yes Ramesh, it

was a

> love marriage...against her parents wishes (as people said),

though the

> parents disagree that they were against it.

>

> child was born in 1996 june (saturn has high points for 11th

house, 5th

> house points are low indicating a girl child).

>

> separation in year 2000

>

> legal separation (divorce) in 2006 March

>

> Acquired property(house) in 2005 April (sun antra with high points

for

> 4th)

>

> has done masters in personal management and also English. She is

> working. Is in India. First job sometime in 1996-97.

>

> How do we judge this chart?

>

> --Manoshi

, ramesh mishra

> <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Manoshi, Namaskar,

> > The lagna of this native is rising with 14 Vi 43. The Su to Ve

> distance is OK < 43 deg but Ve is ahead of Su. Therefore Ve is

weak and

> combust.

> > NK and FK both is Ve who has gone to 6th house and aspected by

6th

> lord Sa,

> > it seems that native is not interested in material enjoyment.

> > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Su in 8th house.

> > Me/Ve 2/12 and 6/8 in navamsa, Me/Ju 3/11 and 5/9 . Su/Sa 4/10

and

> 2/12, Ma/Ve 3/11 and 5/9

> > Ve has gone to the navamsa of Ju who is LoD for 7th

> > There is full delay caused by Sa, though delay is moderated by

the

> aspect of Ju on Sa it is cancelled due to presence of Ju in Sa

sign.

> Therefore delay will be over when Sa enters aries sometime in Apr

last

> week of 1998. That time native was passing through Me antara in Ra

main

> period .Next antara is followed by Ke. Ke is SD to Me and Me is

weak for

> 7th house hence elminated.Next comes the antara of Ve . Ve is 2nd

lord

> and aspected by Sa , so looses its quality. Therefore Ve antara is

also

> eliminated. Su antara is running through 26 Jun 2004 till 20 May

2005.

> Sun is LoE and has 17 points for 7th house in WS. Su might have

given

> marriage in its third sector in between Feb/2005 to May/2005.

> > Most probably in the month of Mar 2005 when Su was transiting in

> Pisces.

> > I do not know what is the fact. Manoshi please guide me if I am

wrong

> anywhere.

> > This chart is showing love marriage. I guess native might have

gone

> against the will of his/her father and married.

> > The native has good relationship with his/her spouse and I do

not find

> any multiple relationship.

> > There may be some insatisfactory relationship between them due

to the

> aspect of Sa on both the luminaries and karak Ve.

> > I may be totally wrong also but the fact may be highlighted by

> Manoshi.

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > Manoshi Chatterjee khallopapa@ wrote:

> > Dear All,

> >

> > I got this chart yesterday. I have to confirm the marriage date

yet.

> > Chart seems to be right as I matched a few events. I want to

discuss

> > about what you can predict about the married life, what about

> > multilple relationships/marriage, if anything can be seen from

the

> > chart. I would like to request Ash as well to give his inputs for

> > learning purpose.

> >

> > 10th March 1973

> > 19:57

> > Bombay

> >

> > I will post about what I could see and what I couldnt in a day or

> > two.

> >

> > thanks

> > Manoshi

> >

> > Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

> >

July 20, 2006

Yes Ash. Congrats! but what if it's jupiter then could you please

explain why would it reduce delay in female chart, why not male?

Do you find other events matching? like separation, divorce etc. and

why? parents are pretty sure about the birth time though.

looking forward to your response.

--Manoshi

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Manoshi,

>

> I did say in my mail, that if the chart was female more chances of

> marriage in Ju antra which is the exact antra she got married in.

>

/message/12365

>

> Manoshi, here Ju is in capricorn so it can't check the delay of

Sa.

> However, in this case, I had selected Ju antra based on 2 points

one

> that the chart was that of a female and secondly lagna and 9th

lord

> of navamsa are in 5:9 so there is blessing which might reduce

delay.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " Manoshi

> Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All and Krushna ji,

> >

> > The lady is divorced...which I could not see from the chart. I

> would

> > like to have more opinions on this.

> >

> > Planet Degrees

> > As 14 Vi 43

> > Su 27 Aq 18

> > Mo 10 Ta 20

> > Ma 25 Sg 54

> > MeR 3 Pi 25

> > Ju 10 Cp 31

> > Ve 19 Aq 40

> > Sa 21 Ta 38

> > Ra 21 Sg 2

> > Ke 21 Ge 2

> >

> > Marriage timing:

> >

> > Saturn is causing delay and jupiter is aspecting saturn. Jupiter

> is in

> > Saturn sign so will it reduce dalay? lets s ee other qualities of

> > jupiter too. It is in moon nakshatra, mars navamsa, aspected by

> 6th lord

> > saturn.

> >

> > She got married in 1994 november (if you take delay moderation

by

> > jupiter in consideration, marriage time is right). Yes Ramesh,

it

> was a

> > love marriage...against her parents wishes (as people said),

> though the

> > parents disagree that they were against it.

> >

> > child was born in 1996 june (saturn has high points for 11th

> house, 5th

> > house points are low indicating a girl child).

> >

> > separation in year 2000

> >

> > legal separation (divorce) in 2006 March

> >

> > Acquired property(house) in 2005 April (sun antra with high

points

> for

> > 4th)

> >

> > has done masters in personal management and also English. She is

> > working. Is in India. First job sometime in 1996-97.

> >

> > How do we judge this chart?

> >

> > --Manoshi

> >

> > , ramesh mishra

> > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Manoshi, Namaskar,

> > > The lagna of this native is rising with 14 Vi 43. The Su to Ve

> > distance is OK < 43 deg but Ve is ahead of Su. Therefore Ve is

> weak and

> > combust.

> > > NK and FK both is Ve who has gone to 6th house and aspected by

> 6th

> > lord Sa,

> > > it seems that native is not interested in material enjoyment.

> > > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Su in 8th house.

> > > Me/Ve 2/12 and 6/8 in navamsa, Me/Ju 3/11 and 5/9 . Su/Sa 4/10

> and

> > 2/12, Ma/Ve 3/11 and 5/9

> > > Ve has gone to the navamsa of Ju who is LoD for 7th

> > > There is full delay caused by Sa, though delay is moderated by

> the

> > aspect of Ju on Sa it is cancelled due to presence of Ju in Sa

> sign.

> > Therefore delay will be over when Sa enters aries sometime in

Apr

> last

> > week of 1998. That time native was passing through Me antara in

Ra

> main

> > period .Next antara is followed by Ke. Ke is SD to Me and Me is

> weak for

> > 7th house hence elminated.Next comes the antara of Ve . Ve is

2nd

> lord

> > and aspected by Sa , so looses its quality. Therefore Ve antara

is

> also

> > eliminated. Su antara is running through 26 Jun 2004 till 20 May

> 2005.

> > Sun is LoE and has 17 points for 7th house in WS. Su might have

> given

> > marriage in its third sector in between Feb/2005 to May/2005.

> > > Most probably in the month of Mar 2005 when Su was transiting

in

> > Pisces.

> > > I do not know what is the fact. Manoshi please guide me if I

am

> wrong

> > anywhere.

> > > This chart is showing love marriage. I guess native might have

> gone

> > against the will of his/her father and married.

> > > The native has good relationship with his/her spouse and I do

> not find

> > any multiple relationship.

> > > There may be some insatisfactory relationship between them due

> to the

> > aspect of Sa on both the luminaries and karak Ve.

> > > I may be totally wrong also but the fact may be highlighted by

> > Manoshi.

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > Manoshi Chatterjee khallopapa@ wrote:

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > I got this chart yesterday. I have to confirm the marriage

date

> yet.

> > > Chart seems to be right as I matched a few events. I want to

> discuss

> > > about what you can predict about the married life, what about

> > > multilple relationships/marriage, if anything can be seen from

> the

> > > chart. I would like to request Ash as well to give his inputs

for

> > > learning purpose.

> > >

> > > 10th March 1973

> > > 19:57

> > > Bombay

> > >

> > > I will post about what I could see and what I couldnt in a day

or

> > > two.

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > Manoshi

> > >

> > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

> > >

July 20, 2006

Manoshi,

If possible, please post the birth details of the husband also.

Let's look at the compatibility.

-Gita

, " Manoshi

Chatterjee " <khallopapa wrote:

>

> Yes Ash. Congrats! but what if it's jupiter then could you please

> explain why would it reduce delay in female chart, why not male?

>

> Do you find other events matching? like separation, divorce etc.

and

> why? parents are pretty sure about the birth time though.

>

> looking forward to your response.

>

> --Manoshi

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Manoshi,

> >

> > I did say in my mail, that if the chart was female more chances

of

> > marriage in Ju antra which is the exact antra she got married in.

> >

>

/message/12365

> >

> > Manoshi, here Ju is in capricorn so it can't check the delay of

> Sa.

> > However, in this case, I had selected Ju antra based on 2 points

> one

> > that the chart was that of a female and secondly lagna and 9th

> lord

> > of navamsa are in 5:9 so there is blessing which might reduce

> delay.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> > , " Manoshi

> > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All and Krushna ji,

> > >

> > > The lady is divorced...which I could not see from the chart. I

> > would

> > > like to have more opinions on this.

> > >

> > > Planet Degrees

> > > As 14 Vi 43

> > > Su 27 Aq 18

> > > Mo 10 Ta 20

> > > Ma 25 Sg 54

> > > MeR 3 Pi 25

> > > Ju 10 Cp 31

> > > Ve 19 Aq 40

> > > Sa 21 Ta 38

> > > Ra 21 Sg 2

> > > Ke 21 Ge 2

> > >

> > > Marriage timing:

> > >

> > > Saturn is causing delay and jupiter is aspecting saturn.

Jupiter

> > is in

> > > Saturn sign so will it reduce dalay? lets s ee other qualities

of

> > > jupiter too. It is in moon nakshatra, mars navamsa, aspected

by

> > 6th lord

> > > saturn.

> > >

> > > She got married in 1994 november (if you take delay

moderation

> by

> > > jupiter in consideration, marriage time is right). Yes Ramesh,

> it

> > was a

> > > love marriage...against her parents wishes (as people said),

> > though the

> > > parents disagree that they were against it.

> > >

> > > child was born in 1996 june (saturn has high points for 11th

> > house, 5th

> > > house points are low indicating a girl child).

> > >

> > > separation in year 2000

> > >

> > > legal separation (divorce) in 2006 March

> > >

> > > Acquired property(house) in 2005 April (sun antra with high

> points

> > for

> > > 4th)

> > >

> > > has done masters in personal management and also English. She

is

> > > working. Is in India. First job sometime in 1996-97.

> > >

> > > How do we judge this chart?

> > >

> > > --Manoshi

> > >

> > > , ramesh mishra

> > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello Manoshi, Namaskar,

> > > > The lagna of this native is rising with 14 Vi 43. The Su to

Ve

> > > distance is OK < 43 deg but Ve is ahead of Su. Therefore Ve is

> > weak and

> > > combust.

> > > > NK and FK both is Ve who has gone to 6th house and aspected

by

> > 6th

> > > lord Sa,

> > > > it seems that native is not interested in material enjoyment.

> > > > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Su in 8th

house.

> > > > Me/Ve 2/12 and 6/8 in navamsa, Me/Ju 3/11 and 5/9 . Su/Sa

4/10

> > and

> > > 2/12, Ma/Ve 3/11 and 5/9

> > > > Ve has gone to the navamsa of Ju who is LoD for 7th

> > > > There is full delay caused by Sa, though delay is moderated

by

> > the

> > > aspect of Ju on Sa it is cancelled due to presence of Ju in Sa

> > sign.

> > > Therefore delay will be over when Sa enters aries sometime in

> Apr

> > last

> > > week of 1998. That time native was passing through Me antara

in

> Ra

> > main

> > > period .Next antara is followed by Ke. Ke is SD to Me and Me

is

> > weak for

> > > 7th house hence elminated.Next comes the antara of Ve . Ve is

> 2nd

> > lord

> > > and aspected by Sa , so looses its quality. Therefore Ve

antara

> is

> > also

> > > eliminated. Su antara is running through 26 Jun 2004 till 20

May

> > 2005.

> > > Sun is LoE and has 17 points for 7th house in WS. Su might

have

> > given

> > > marriage in its third sector in between Feb/2005 to May/2005.

> > > > Most probably in the month of Mar 2005 when Su was

transiting

> in

> > > Pisces.

> > > > I do not know what is the fact. Manoshi please guide me if I

> am

> > wrong

> > > anywhere.

> > > > This chart is showing love marriage. I guess native might

have

> > gone

> > > against the will of his/her father and married.

> > > > The native has good relationship with his/her spouse and I

do

> > not find

> > > any multiple relationship.

> > > > There may be some insatisfactory relationship between them

due

> > to the

> > > aspect of Sa on both the luminaries and karak Ve.

> > > > I may be totally wrong also but the fact may be highlighted

by

> > > Manoshi.

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > Manoshi Chatterjee khallopapa@ wrote:

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > I got this chart yesterday. I have to confirm the marriage

> date

> > yet.

> > > > Chart seems to be right as I matched a few events. I want to

> > discuss

> > > > about what you can predict about the married life, what about

> > > > multilple relationships/marriage, if anything can be seen

from

> > the

> > > > chart. I would like to request Ash as well to give his

inputs

> for

> > > > learning purpose.

> > > >

> > > > 10th March 1973

> > > > 19:57

> > > > Bombay

> > > >

> > > > I will post about what I could see and what I couldnt in a

day

> or

> > > > two.

> > > >

> > > > thanks

> > > > Manoshi

> > > >

> > > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

> > > >

July 20, 2006

sorry Gita, I dont have the details of the husband. and I dont think

I could get it either.

--Manoshi

, " kaslearner "

<kaslearner wrote:

>

> Manoshi,

>

> If possible, please post the birth details of the husband also.

> Let's look at the compatibility.

>

> -Gita

>

> , " Manoshi

> Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote:

> >

> > Yes Ash. Congrats! but what if it's jupiter then could you

please

> > explain why would it reduce delay in female chart, why not male?

> >

> > Do you find other events matching? like separation, divorce etc.

> and

> > why? parents are pretty sure about the birth time though.

> >

> > looking forward to your response.

> >

> > --Manoshi

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Manoshi,

> > >

> > > I did say in my mail, that if the chart was female more

chances

> of

> > > marriage in Ju antra which is the exact antra she got married

in.

> > >

> >

>

/message/12365

> > >

> > > Manoshi, here Ju is in capricorn so it can't check the delay

of

> > Sa.

> > > However, in this case, I had selected Ju antra based on 2

points

> > one

> > > that the chart was that of a female and secondly lagna and

9th

> > lord

> > > of navamsa are in 5:9 so there is blessing which might reduce

> > delay.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All and Krushna ji,

> > > >

> > > > The lady is divorced...which I could not see from the chart.

I

> > > would

> > > > like to have more opinions on this.

> > > >

> > > > Planet Degrees

> > > > As 14 Vi 43

> > > > Su 27 Aq 18

> > > > Mo 10 Ta 20

> > > > Ma 25 Sg 54

> > > > MeR 3 Pi 25

> > > > Ju 10 Cp 31

> > > > Ve 19 Aq 40

> > > > Sa 21 Ta 38

> > > > Ra 21 Sg 2

> > > > Ke 21 Ge 2

> > > >

> > > > Marriage timing:

> > > >

> > > > Saturn is causing delay and jupiter is aspecting saturn.

> Jupiter

> > > is in

> > > > Saturn sign so will it reduce dalay? lets s ee other

qualities

> of

> > > > jupiter too. It is in moon nakshatra, mars navamsa, aspected

> by

> > > 6th lord

> > > > saturn.

> > > >

> > > > She got married in 1994 november (if you take delay

> moderation

> > by

> > > > jupiter in consideration, marriage time is right). Yes

Ramesh,

> > it

> > > was a

> > > > love marriage...against her parents wishes (as people

said),

> > > though the

> > > > parents disagree that they were against it.

> > > >

> > > > child was born in 1996 june (saturn has high points for 11th

> > > house, 5th

> > > > house points are low indicating a girl child).

> > > >

> > > > separation in year 2000

> > > >

> > > > legal separation (divorce) in 2006 March

> > > >

> > > > Acquired property(house) in 2005 April (sun antra with high

> > points

> > > for

> > > > 4th)

> > > >

> > > > has done masters in personal management and also English.

She

> is

> > > > working. Is in India. First job sometime in 1996-97.

> > > >

> > > > How do we judge this chart?

> > > >

> > > > --Manoshi

> > > >

> > > > , ramesh

mishra

> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello Manoshi, Namaskar,

> > > > > The lagna of this native is rising with 14 Vi 43. The Su

to

> Ve

> > > > distance is OK < 43 deg but Ve is ahead of Su. Therefore Ve

is

> > > weak and

> > > > combust.

> > > > > NK and FK both is Ve who has gone to 6th house and

aspected

> by

> > > 6th

> > > > lord Sa,

> > > > > it seems that native is not interested in material

enjoyment.

> > > > > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Su in 8th

> house.

> > > > > Me/Ve 2/12 and 6/8 in navamsa, Me/Ju 3/11 and 5/9 . Su/Sa

> 4/10

> > > and

> > > > 2/12, Ma/Ve 3/11 and 5/9

> > > > > Ve has gone to the navamsa of Ju who is LoD for 7th

> > > > > There is full delay caused by Sa, though delay is

moderated

> by

> > > the

> > > > aspect of Ju on Sa it is cancelled due to presence of Ju in

Sa

> > > sign.

> > > > Therefore delay will be over when Sa enters aries sometime

in

> > Apr

> > > last

> > > > week of 1998. That time native was passing through Me antara

> in

> > Ra

> > > main

> > > > period .Next antara is followed by Ke. Ke is SD to Me and Me

> is

> > > weak for

> > > > 7th house hence elminated.Next comes the antara of Ve . Ve

is

> > 2nd

> > > lord

> > > > and aspected by Sa , so looses its quality. Therefore Ve

> antara

> > is

> > > also

> > > > eliminated. Su antara is running through 26 Jun 2004 till 20

> May

> > > 2005.

> > > > Sun is LoE and has 17 points for 7th house in WS. Su might

> have

> > > given

> > > > marriage in its third sector in between Feb/2005 to May/2005.

> > > > > Most probably in the month of Mar 2005 when Su was

> transiting

> > in

> > > > Pisces.

> > > > > I do not know what is the fact. Manoshi please guide me if

I

> > am

> > > wrong

> > > > anywhere.

> > > > > This chart is showing love marriage. I guess native might

> have

> > > gone

> > > > against the will of his/her father and married.

> > > > > The native has good relationship with his/her spouse and I

> do

> > > not find

> > > > any multiple relationship.

> > > > > There may be some insatisfactory relationship between them

> due

> > > to the

> > > > aspect of Sa on both the luminaries and karak Ve.

> > > > > I may be totally wrong also but the fact may be

highlighted

> by

> > > > Manoshi.

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee khallopapa@ wrote:

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > >

> > > > > I got this chart yesterday. I have to confirm the marriage

> > date

> > > yet.

> > > > > Chart seems to be right as I matched a few events. I want

to

> > > discuss

> > > > > about what you can predict about the married life, what

about

> > > > > multilple relationships/marriage, if anything can be seen

> from

> > > the

> > > > > chart. I would like to request Ash as well to give his

> inputs

> > for

> > > > > learning purpose.

> > > > >

> > > > > 10th March 1973

> > > > > 19:57

> > > > > Bombay

> > > > >

> > > > > I will post about what I could see and what I couldnt in a

> day

> > or

> > > > > two.

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks

> > > > > Manoshi

> > > > >

> > > > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers

India.

> > > > >

July 21, 2006

Hello Manoshi,

May I bother to comment your analysis ? Please do not mind for this. If you do

not agree you may correct me with your replay.I think this may be good for

learning.

You said marriage took place after considering the moderation of delay. When

you consider the moderation by Jup then the delay is over in the month of Dec

1997. But marriage was much before this. I think Ash is correct taking advantage

of nullification of delay caused due to lagna and 9th lord in navamsa in 5:9

combination. This point I overlooked so I considered full delay. When the delay

is nullified then immediately Ju antara was following and Jup gave her marriage.

Next point is for the child birth. As you mentioned birth of a child took

place in Jun 1996 i.e. during Sa antara. It means she might have conceive

sometime in the month of Sep 1995 in Sa antara itself. Ve is LoD and Sa is LoE

for 12th house of conception. Sa causes delay in conception . Sa has less point

and Ve has strong point for 12th house but Sa is NSD as well as SD for Ve, so

conception might be in this antara. Now for child birth Ve is LoD and Me is LoE

for 5th house .Sa ia LoB, Su is LoA and Ve is LoC.Sa is in house C, Sa is

himself LoB and Sa aspects LoA so full delay is caused by Sa .Birth took place

in Sa antara though SD of Ve and Ve has highest point 42 for 5th house. I could

not understand how Sa gave birth of a child being delay causing planet.

When you consider 11th house as B then Mo is LoB, Sa is himself LoA, Ma is LoC

all these houses or planet is aspected by Sa means delay. LoD is Ma and LoE is

Ju . For 11th all the planets are >12 in WS. Sa is SD to Ju. Can Sa give birth

of child. In marriage we do not consider the reduction of delay by Ju so here

also.

For 12th house also Sa is playing same role . But difference is here that Sa

is LoE and SD to Ve so conception took place. Once conception is achieved then

birth has to take place. Ju is in 5th with strong points and this is the saving

grace.

Now I am going out of time so more in next mail. You may correct me if I am

wrong anywhere.Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote:

sorry Gita, I dont have the details of the husband. and I dont think

I could get it either.

--Manoshi

, " kaslearner "

<kaslearner wrote:

>

> Manoshi,

>

> If possible, please post the birth details of the husband also.

> Let's look at the compatibility.

>

> -Gita

>

> , " Manoshi

> Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote:

> >

> > Yes Ash. Congrats! but what if it's jupiter then could you

please

> > explain why would it reduce delay in female chart, why not male?

> >

> > Do you find other events matching? like separation, divorce etc.

> and

> > why? parents are pretty sure about the birth time though.

> >

> > looking forward to your response.

> >

> > --Manoshi

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Manoshi,

> > >

> > > I did say in my mail, that if the chart was female more

chances

> of

> > > marriage in Ju antra which is the exact antra she got married

in.

> > >

> >

>

/message/12365

> > >

> > > Manoshi, here Ju is in capricorn so it can't check the delay

of

> > Sa.

> > > However, in this case, I had selected Ju antra based on 2

points

> > one

> > > that the chart was that of a female and secondly lagna and

9th

> > lord

> > > of navamsa are in 5:9 so there is blessing which might reduce

> > delay.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash

> > >

> > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All and Krushna ji,

> > > >

> > > > The lady is divorced...which I could not see from the chart.

I

> > > would

> > > > like to have more opinions on this.

> > > >

> > > > Planet Degrees

> > > > As 14 Vi 43

> > > > Su 27 Aq 18

> > > > Mo 10 Ta 20

> > > > Ma 25 Sg 54

> > > > MeR 3 Pi 25

> > > > Ju 10 Cp 31

> > > > Ve 19 Aq 40

> > > > Sa 21 Ta 38

> > > > Ra 21 Sg 2

> > > > Ke 21 Ge 2

> > > >

> > > > Marriage timing:

> > > >

> > > > Saturn is causing delay and jupiter is aspecting saturn.

> Jupiter

> > > is in

> > > > Saturn sign so will it reduce dalay? lets s ee other

qualities

> of

> > > > jupiter too. It is in moon nakshatra, mars navamsa, aspected

> by

> > > 6th lord

> > > > saturn.

> > > >

> > > > She got married in 1994 november (if you take delay

> moderation

> > by

> > > > jupiter in consideration, marriage time is right). Yes

Ramesh,

> > it

> > > was a

> > > > love marriage...against her parents wishes (as people

said),

> > > though the

> > > > parents disagree that they were against it.

> > > >

> > > > child was born in 1996 june (saturn has high points for 11th

> > > house, 5th

> > > > house points are low indicating a girl child).

> > > >

> > > > separation in year 2000

> > > >

> > > > legal separation (divorce) in 2006 March

> > > >

> > > > Acquired property(house) in 2005 April (sun antra with high

> > points

> > > for

> > > > 4th)

> > > >

> > > > has done masters in personal management and also English.

She

> is

> > > > working. Is in India. First job sometime in 1996-97.

> > > >

> > > > How do we judge this chart?

> > > >

> > > > --Manoshi

> > > >

> > > > , ramesh

mishra

> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello Manoshi, Namaskar,

> > > > > The lagna of this native is rising with 14 Vi 43. The Su

to

> Ve

> > > > distance is OK < 43 deg but Ve is ahead of Su. Therefore Ve

is

> > > weak and

> > > > combust.

> > > > > NK and FK both is Ve who has gone to 6th house and

aspected

> by

> > > 6th

> > > > lord Sa,

> > > > > it seems that native is not interested in material

enjoyment.

> > > > > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Su in 8th

> house.

> > > > > Me/Ve 2/12 and 6/8 in navamsa, Me/Ju 3/11 and 5/9 . Su/Sa

> 4/10

> > > and

> > > > 2/12, Ma/Ve 3/11 and 5/9

> > > > > Ve has gone to the navamsa of Ju who is LoD for 7th

> > > > > There is full delay caused by Sa, though delay is

moderated

> by

> > > the

> > > > aspect of Ju on Sa it is cancelled due to presence of Ju in

Sa

> > > sign.

> > > > Therefore delay will be over when Sa enters aries sometime

in

> > Apr

> > > last

> > > > week of 1998. That time native was passing through Me antara

> in

> > Ra

> > > main

> > > > period .Next antara is followed by Ke. Ke is SD to Me and Me

> is

> > > weak for

> > > > 7th house hence elminated.Next comes the antara of Ve . Ve

is

> > 2nd

> > > lord

> > > > and aspected by Sa , so looses its quality. Therefore Ve

> antara

> > is

> > > also

> > > > eliminated. Su antara is running through 26 Jun 2004 till 20

> May

> > > 2005.

> > > > Sun is LoE and has 17 points for 7th house in WS. Su might

> have

> > > given

> > > > marriage in its third sector in between Feb/2005 to May/2005.

> > > > > Most probably in the month of Mar 2005 when Su was

> transiting

> > in

> > > > Pisces.

> > > > > I do not know what is the fact. Manoshi please guide me if

I

> > am

> > > wrong

> > > > anywhere.

> > > > > This chart is showing love marriage. I guess native might

> have

> > > gone

> > > > against the will of his/her father and married.

> > > > > The native has good relationship with his/her spouse and I

> do

> > > not find

> > > > any multiple relationship.

> > > > > There may be some insatisfactory relationship between them

> due

> > > to the

> > > > aspect of Sa on both the luminaries and karak Ve.

> > > > > I may be totally wrong also but the fact may be

highlighted

> by

> > > > Manoshi.

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee khallopapa@ wrote:

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > >

> > > > > I got this chart yesterday. I have to confirm the marriage

> > date

> > > yet.

> > > > > Chart seems to be right as I matched a few events. I want

to

> > > discuss

> > > > > about what you can predict about the married life, what

about

> > > > > multilple relationships/marriage, if anything can be seen

> from

> > > the

> > > > > chart. I would like to request Ash as well to give his

> inputs

> > for

> > > > > learning purpose.

> > > > >

> > > > > 10th March 1973

> > > > > 19:57

> > > > > Bombay

> > > > >

> > > > > I will post about what I could see and what I couldnt in a

> day

> > or

> > > > > two.

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks

> > > > > Manoshi

> > > > >

> > > > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers

India.

> > > > >

July 21, 2006

Dear Manoshi,

How did you come to a conclusion that high points in 11th and low

points in 5th gave a girl child?

I have never read or heard Krushanji say that low points in 5th

house would indicate girl.

The points in the WS indicate power. When the power is less it

means that particular house for that particular planet is weak so

there is less happiness or we say that there is not enough power for

event to happen. So here we talk of child birth so when points are

low it means that there is not enough power for the planet to

furnish the timing of event.

High points in 11th might give conception, means 11th house has good

power, so more power means event can take place.

For sex of the child, you must find the running age of the mother

and the conception time i.e with that you can find the nakshtra that

conception took place in. That should give u the data to identify

the sex of the child.

Unless, Krushnaji himself has told u personally that low points

would mean girl child, then you can please let us know.

Thanks,

Cheers !!!

Ash

, " Manoshi

Chatterjee " <khallopapa wrote:

>

> Dear All and Krushna ji,

>

> The lady is divorced...which I could not see from the chart. I

would

> like to have more opinions on this.

>

> Planet Degrees

> As 14 Vi 43

> Su 27 Aq 18

> Mo 10 Ta 20

> Ma 25 Sg 54

> MeR 3 Pi 25

> Ju 10 Cp 31

> Ve 19 Aq 40

> Sa 21 Ta 38

> Ra 21 Sg 2

> Ke 21 Ge 2

>

> Marriage timing:

>

> Saturn is causing delay and jupiter is aspecting saturn. Jupiter

is in

> Saturn sign so will it reduce dalay? lets s ee other qualities of

> jupiter too. It is in moon nakshatra, mars navamsa, aspected by

6th lord

> saturn.

>

> She got married in 1994 november (if you take delay moderation by

> jupiter in consideration, marriage time is right). Yes Ramesh, it

was a

> love marriage...against her parents wishes (as people said),

though the

> parents disagree that they were against it.

>

> child was born in 1996 june (saturn has high points for 11th

house, 5th

> house points are low indicating a girl child).

>

> separation in year 2000

>

> legal separation (divorce) in 2006 March

>

> Acquired property(house) in 2005 April (sun antra with high points

for

> 4th)

>

> has done masters in personal management and also English. She is

> working. Is in India. First job sometime in 1996-97.

>

> How do we judge this chart?

>

> --Manoshi

, ramesh mishra

> <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Manoshi, Namaskar,

> > The lagna of this native is rising with 14 Vi 43. The Su to Ve

> distance is OK < 43 deg but Ve is ahead of Su. Therefore Ve is

weak and

> combust.

> > NK and FK both is Ve who has gone to 6th house and aspected by

6th

> lord Sa,

> > it seems that native is not interested in material enjoyment.

> > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Su in 8th house.

> > Me/Ve 2/12 and 6/8 in navamsa, Me/Ju 3/11 and 5/9 . Su/Sa 4/10

and

> 2/12, Ma/Ve 3/11 and 5/9

> > Ve has gone to the navamsa of Ju who is LoD for 7th

> > There is full delay caused by Sa, though delay is moderated by

the

> aspect of Ju on Sa it is cancelled due to presence of Ju in Sa

sign.

> Therefore delay will be over when Sa enters aries sometime in Apr

last

> week of 1998. That time native was passing through Me antara in Ra

main

> period .Next antara is followed by Ke. Ke is SD to Me and Me is

weak for

> 7th house hence elminated.Next comes the antara of Ve . Ve is 2nd

lord

> and aspected by Sa , so looses its quality. Therefore Ve antara is

also

> eliminated. Su antara is running through 26 Jun 2004 till 20 May

2005.

> Sun is LoE and has 17 points for 7th house in WS. Su might have

given

> marriage in its third sector in between Feb/2005 to May/2005.

> > Most probably in the month of Mar 2005 when Su was transiting in

> Pisces.

> > I do not know what is the fact. Manoshi please guide me if I am

wrong

> anywhere.

> > This chart is showing love marriage. I guess native might have

gone

> against the will of his/her father and married.

> > The native has good relationship with his/her spouse and I do

not find

> any multiple relationship.

> > There may be some insatisfactory relationship between them due

to the

> aspect of Sa on both the luminaries and karak Ve.

> > I may be totally wrong also but the fact may be highlighted by

> Manoshi.

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > Manoshi Chatterjee khallopapa@ wrote:

> > Dear All,

> >

> > I got this chart yesterday. I have to confirm the marriage date

yet.

> > Chart seems to be right as I matched a few events. I want to

discuss

> > about what you can predict about the married life, what about

> > multilple relationships/marriage, if anything can be seen from

the

> > chart. I would like to request Ash as well to give his inputs for

> > learning purpose.

> >

> > 10th March 1973

> > 19:57

> > Bombay

> >

> > I will post about what I could see and what I couldnt in a day or

> > two.

> >

> > thanks

> > Manoshi

> >

> > Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

> >

July 21, 2006

Dear Ash,

one day whole talking Krushna ji had indicated about this. But I

dont know the depth of it, so I said (MAY indicate a girl child)

--Manoshi

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Manoshi,

> How did you come to a conclusion that high points in 11th and low

> points in 5th gave a girl child?

>

> I have never read or heard Krushanji say that low points in 5th

> house would indicate girl.

>

> The points in the WS indicate power. When the power is less it

> means that particular house for that particular planet is weak so

> there is less happiness or we say that there is not enough power

for

> event to happen. So here we talk of child birth so when points

are

> low it means that there is not enough power for the planet to

> furnish the timing of event.

>

> High points in 11th might give conception, means 11th house has

good

> power, so more power means event can take place.

>

> For sex of the child, you must find the running age of the mother

> and the conception time i.e with that you can find the nakshtra

that

> conception took place in. That should give u the data to identify

> the sex of the child.

>

> Unless, Krushnaji himself has told u personally that low points

> would mean girl child, then you can please let us know.

>

> Thanks,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash

>

> , " Manoshi

> Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All and Krushna ji,

> >

> > The lady is divorced...which I could not see from the chart. I

> would

> > like to have more opinions on this.

> >

> > Planet Degrees

> > As 14 Vi 43

> > Su 27 Aq 18

> > Mo 10 Ta 20

> > Ma 25 Sg 54

> > MeR 3 Pi 25

> > Ju 10 Cp 31

> > Ve 19 Aq 40

> > Sa 21 Ta 38

> > Ra 21 Sg 2

> > Ke 21 Ge 2

> >

> > Marriage timing:

> >

> > Saturn is causing delay and jupiter is aspecting saturn. Jupiter

> is in

> > Saturn sign so will it reduce dalay? lets s ee other qualities of

> > jupiter too. It is in moon nakshatra, mars navamsa, aspected by

> 6th lord

> > saturn.

> >

> > She got married in 1994 november (if you take delay moderation

by

> > jupiter in consideration, marriage time is right). Yes Ramesh,

it

> was a

> > love marriage...against her parents wishes (as people said),

> though the

> > parents disagree that they were against it.

> >

> > child was born in 1996 june (saturn has high points for 11th

> house, 5th

> > house points are low indicating a girl child).

> >

> > separation in year 2000

> >

> > legal separation (divorce) in 2006 March

> >

> > Acquired property(house) in 2005 April (sun antra with high

points

> for

> > 4th)

> >

> > has done masters in personal management and also English. She is

> > working. Is in India. First job sometime in 1996-97.

> >

> > How do we judge this chart?

> >

> > --Manoshi

> >

> > , ramesh mishra

> > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Manoshi, Namaskar,

> > > The lagna of this native is rising with 14 Vi 43. The Su to Ve

> > distance is OK < 43 deg but Ve is ahead of Su. Therefore Ve is

> weak and

> > combust.

> > > NK and FK both is Ve who has gone to 6th house and aspected by

> 6th

> > lord Sa,

> > > it seems that native is not interested in material enjoyment.

> > > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Su in 8th house.

> > > Me/Ve 2/12 and 6/8 in navamsa, Me/Ju 3/11 and 5/9 . Su/Sa 4/10

> and

> > 2/12, Ma/Ve 3/11 and 5/9

> > > Ve has gone to the navamsa of Ju who is LoD for 7th

> > > There is full delay caused by Sa, though delay is moderated by

> the

> > aspect of Ju on Sa it is cancelled due to presence of Ju in Sa

> sign.

> > Therefore delay will be over when Sa enters aries sometime in

Apr

> last

> > week of 1998. That time native was passing through Me antara in

Ra

> main

> > period .Next antara is followed by Ke. Ke is SD to Me and Me is

> weak for

> > 7th house hence elminated.Next comes the antara of Ve . Ve is

2nd

> lord

> > and aspected by Sa , so looses its quality. Therefore Ve antara

is

> also

> > eliminated. Su antara is running through 26 Jun 2004 till 20 May

> 2005.

> > Sun is LoE and has 17 points for 7th house in WS. Su might have

> given

> > marriage in its third sector in between Feb/2005 to May/2005.

> > > Most probably in the month of Mar 2005 when Su was transiting

in

> > Pisces.

> > > I do not know what is the fact. Manoshi please guide me if I

am

> wrong

> > anywhere.

> > > This chart is showing love marriage. I guess native might have

> gone

> > against the will of his/her father and married.

> > > The native has good relationship with his/her spouse and I do

> not find

> > any multiple relationship.

> > > There may be some insatisfactory relationship between them due

> to the

> > aspect of Sa on both the luminaries and karak Ve.

> > > I may be totally wrong also but the fact may be highlighted by

> > Manoshi.

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > Manoshi Chatterjee khallopapa@ wrote:

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > I got this chart yesterday. I have to confirm the marriage

date

> yet.

> > > Chart seems to be right as I matched a few events. I want to

> discuss

> > > about what you can predict about the married life, what about

> > > multilple relationships/marriage, if anything can be seen from

> the

> > > chart. I would like to request Ash as well to give his inputs

for

> > > learning purpose.

> > >

> > > 10th March 1973

> > > 19:57

> > > Bombay

> > >

> > > I will post about what I could see and what I couldnt in a day

or

> > > two.

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > Manoshi

> > >

> > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

> > >

July 21, 2006

Dear Ramesh,

I would study the chart more and give feedback. I am going very busy

now a days..so please wait for a day or two. I apologize for this

delay.

thanks

Manoshi

, ramesh mishra

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Hello Manoshi,

> May I bother to comment your analysis ? Please do not mind for

this. If you do not agree you may correct me with your replay.I

think this may be good for learning.

> You said marriage took place after considering the moderation of

delay. When you consider the moderation by Jup then the delay is

over in the month of Dec 1997. But marriage was much before this. I

think Ash is correct taking advantage of nullification of delay

caused due to lagna and 9th lord in navamsa in 5:9 combination. This

point I overlooked so I considered full delay. When the delay is

nullified then immediately Ju antara was following and Jup gave her

marriage.

> Next point is for the child birth. As you mentioned birth of a

child took place in Jun 1996 i.e. during Sa antara. It means she

might have conceive sometime in the month of Sep 1995 in Sa antara

itself. Ve is LoD and Sa is LoE for 12th house of conception. Sa

causes delay in conception . Sa has less point and Ve has strong

point for 12th house but Sa is NSD as well as SD for Ve, so

conception might be in this antara. Now for child birth Ve is LoD

and Me is LoE for 5th house .Sa ia LoB, Su is LoA and Ve is LoC.Sa

is in house C, Sa is himself LoB and Sa aspects LoA so full delay is

caused by Sa .Birth took place in Sa antara though SD of Ve and Ve

has highest point 42 for 5th house. I could not understand how Sa

gave birth of a child being delay causing planet.

> When you consider 11th house as B then Mo is LoB, Sa is himself

LoA, Ma is LoC all these houses or planet is aspected by Sa means

delay. LoD is Ma and LoE is Ju . For 11th all the planets are >12 in

WS. Sa is SD to Ju. Can Sa give birth of child. In marriage we do

not consider the reduction of delay by Ju so here also.

> For 12th house also Sa is playing same role . But difference is

here that Sa is LoE and SD to Ve so conception took place. Once

conception is achieved then birth has to take place. Ju is in 5th

with strong points and this is the saving grace.

> Now I am going out of time so more in next mail. You may correct

me if I am wrong anywhere.Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote:

> sorry Gita, I dont have the details of the husband. and

I dont think

> I could get it either.

>

> --Manoshi

>

> , " kaslearner "

> <kaslearner@> wrote:

> >

> > Manoshi,

> >

> > If possible, please post the birth details of the husband also.

> > Let's look at the compatibility.

> >

> > -Gita

> >

> > , " Manoshi

> > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Yes Ash. Congrats! but what if it's jupiter then could you

> please

> > > explain why would it reduce delay in female chart, why not

male?

> > >

> > > Do you find other events matching? like separation, divorce

etc.

> > and

> > > why? parents are pretty sure about the birth time though.

> > >

> > > looking forward to your response.

> > >

> > > --Manoshi

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Manoshi,

> > > >

> > > > I did say in my mail, that if the chart was female more

> chances

> > of

> > > > marriage in Ju antra which is the exact antra she got

married

> in.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

/message/12365

> > > >

> > > > Manoshi, here Ju is in capricorn so it can't check the delay

> of

> > > Sa.

> > > > However, in this case, I had selected Ju antra based on 2

> points

> > > one

> > > > that the chart was that of a female and secondly lagna and

> 9th

> > > lord

> > > > of navamsa are in 5:9 so there is blessing which might

reduce

> > > delay.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash

> > > >

> > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear All and Krushna ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > The lady is divorced...which I could not see from the

chart.

> I

> > > > would

> > > > > like to have more opinions on this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Planet Degrees

> > > > > As 14 Vi 43

> > > > > Su 27 Aq 18

> > > > > Mo 10 Ta 20

> > > > > Ma 25 Sg 54

> > > > > MeR 3 Pi 25

> > > > > Ju 10 Cp 31

> > > > > Ve 19 Aq 40

> > > > > Sa 21 Ta 38

> > > > > Ra 21 Sg 2

> > > > > Ke 21 Ge 2

> > > > >

> > > > > Marriage timing:

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturn is causing delay and jupiter is aspecting saturn.

> > Jupiter

> > > > is in

> > > > > Saturn sign so will it reduce dalay? lets s ee other

> qualities

> > of

> > > > > jupiter too. It is in moon nakshatra, mars navamsa,

aspected

> > by

> > > > 6th lord

> > > > > saturn.

> > > > >

> > > > > She got married in 1994 november (if you take delay

> > moderation

> > > by

> > > > > jupiter in consideration, marriage time is right). Yes

> Ramesh,

> > > it

> > > > was a

> > > > > love marriage...against her parents wishes (as people

> said),

> > > > though the

> > > > > parents disagree that they were against it.

> > > > >

> > > > > child was born in 1996 june (saturn has high points for

11th

> > > > house, 5th

> > > > > house points are low indicating a girl child).

> > > > >

> > > > > separation in year 2000

> > > > >

> > > > > legal separation (divorce) in 2006 March

> > > > >

> > > > > Acquired property(house) in 2005 April (sun antra with

high

> > > points

> > > > for

> > > > > 4th)

> > > > >

> > > > > has done masters in personal management and also English.

> She

> > is

> > > > > working. Is in India. First job sometime in 1996-97.

> > > > >

> > > > > How do we judge this chart?

> > > > >

> > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > >

> > > > > , ramesh

> mishra

> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello Manoshi, Namaskar,

> > > > > > The lagna of this native is rising with 14 Vi 43. The Su

> to

> > Ve

> > > > > distance is OK < 43 deg but Ve is ahead of Su. Therefore

Ve

> is

> > > > weak and

> > > > > combust.

> > > > > > NK and FK both is Ve who has gone to 6th house and

> aspected

> > by

> > > > 6th

> > > > > lord Sa,

> > > > > > it seems that native is not interested in material

> enjoyment.

> > > > > > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Su in 8th

> > house.

> > > > > > Me/Ve 2/12 and 6/8 in navamsa, Me/Ju 3/11 and 5/9 .

Su/Sa

> > 4/10

> > > > and

> > > > > 2/12, Ma/Ve 3/11 and 5/9

> > > > > > Ve has gone to the navamsa of Ju who is LoD for 7th

> > > > > > There is full delay caused by Sa, though delay is

> moderated

> > by

> > > > the

> > > > > aspect of Ju on Sa it is cancelled due to presence of Ju

in

> Sa

> > > > sign.

> > > > > Therefore delay will be over when Sa enters aries sometime

> in

> > > Apr

> > > > last

> > > > > week of 1998. That time native was passing through Me

antara

> > in

> > > Ra

> > > > main

> > > > > period .Next antara is followed by Ke. Ke is SD to Me and

Me

> > is

> > > > weak for

> > > > > 7th house hence elminated.Next comes the antara of Ve . Ve

> is

> > > 2nd

> > > > lord

> > > > > and aspected by Sa , so looses its quality. Therefore Ve

> > antara

> > > is

> > > > also

> > > > > eliminated. Su antara is running through 26 Jun 2004 till

20

> > May

> > > > 2005.

> > > > > Sun is LoE and has 17 points for 7th house in WS. Su might

> > have

> > > > given

> > > > > marriage in its third sector in between Feb/2005 to

May/2005.

> > > > > > Most probably in the month of Mar 2005 when Su was

> > transiting

> > > in

> > > > > Pisces.

> > > > > > I do not know what is the fact. Manoshi please guide me

if

> I

> > > am

> > > > wrong

> > > > > anywhere.

> > > > > > This chart is showing love marriage. I guess native

might

> > have

> > > > gone

> > > > > against the will of his/her father and married.

> > > > > > The native has good relationship with his/her spouse and

I

> > do

> > > > not find

> > > > > any multiple relationship.

> > > > > > There may be some insatisfactory relationship between

them

> > due

> > > > to the

> > > > > aspect of Sa on both the luminaries and karak Ve.

> > > > > > I may be totally wrong also but the fact may be

> highlighted

> > by

> > > > > Manoshi.

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee khallopapa@ wrote:

> > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I got this chart yesterday. I have to confirm the

marriage

> > > date

> > > > yet.

> > > > > > Chart seems to be right as I matched a few events. I

want

> to

> > > > discuss

> > > > > > about what you can predict about the married life, what

> about

> > > > > > multilple relationships/marriage, if anything can be

seen

> > from

> > > > the

> > > > > > chart. I would like to request Ash as well to give his

> > inputs

> > > for

> > > > > > learning purpose.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 10th March 1973

> > > > > > 19:57

> > > > > > Bombay

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will post about what I could see and what I couldnt in

a

> > day

> > > or

> > > > > > two.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > Manoshi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers

> India.

> > > > > >

July 22, 2006

Dear Ash, Manoshi, Gita and list members,

In my earlier mail I tried to verify the marriage date and birth of child. In

this I would like to see the conditions of separation and then legally divorced.

In case of separation I am taking 2nd house as B .Venus is the karak for 2nd

and this Ve is in the navamsa of Jup who is LoB for 7th and Ve is in 6th house

with Su. Ve is malefic in 6th house so it is malefic and spoiled being in the

sign of Sa and conjunct with Su in 6th house. Me is 12th lord for 2nd and

occupies house B for 7th. Me is powerful in 7th house and cast his malefic

aspect on lagna. It means something going to be adverse with the native. Me is

also weak for 2nd in WS. Therefore something adverse is going to happen with

native during Me antara. Ma is in 10th from Me and he casts a malefic aspect on

7th and Me as well. Me is also SD to Ma. Ma is in 7th house in navamsa..

Ve is LoA and LoB who is in house C for 2nd . Sa LoC is in house A and aspect

Ve.Therefore these planetary combinations fulfull the cause of separation. The

separation might have taken place in Me antara .As I told above that Me has <12

points for 2nd in WS Then the following antaras of Ke, Ve and Su followed who

are not in good conditions. Ke is SD to Me so he acts like Me.

For legal action Mo is LoE and for fructification of legally divorce or

permanent separation Mo is LoD.Therefore during Mo antara she got the legal

divorce.

If anything is wrong in my assessment please do correct me with adequate

explanation.Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra.