Guest guest Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Hi, What is the significance of Transit Sa + Ju points in a sub-period ? Does the event take place only when Transit Sa+Ju is greater than 8 in a particular sub-period ? I have had all my previous job changes in Saturn's antara and the funny thing is that I have recently started Saturn's antara and I am looking out for one again. I did some analysis with my limited know how of the KAS as to why Saturn is trigerring my job changes. Saturn is LoD for 10th house (B) and SD to Sun (LoC) and is in Mars Navamsa (LoA and LoB). So Saturn is very potent to give 10th house results in its antara. How do I time the event further as to when can I expect some break ? Do I have to rely on Tr Sa+Ju points which are low right now but will improve in Oct/Nov. I am assuming that Sun's transit is finally used to time the event within 13 days but I am not sure on how to use the PDF sheet for the same. Any inputs will be appreciated. Regards, Sameer 27/7/76, 6:25am, India (76e46,30n44) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Dear Sameer, Ash, Let me try and explain it based on what I understand. Ash, kindly correct me if required. The points held by the planets in transit directly effect the karkatwa held by the planet. So, if a planet gets high points (>4) in transit, as LoA it has improved. If you check, ju and sa are LoA for 2, 3, 4, and 5th house of natural chart. Transit points of Sa and Ju being high enhances these houses since these planets are LoA for these houses. It shall give you good wealth status, courage, general happiness and good chances in shares etc. So in general we say that ju + Sa > 8 points gives sound financial position and less of worries. Also, sa and ju being slow moving planets, they leave a distinct mark on us because we remain under their influence (good or bad) for a longer period of time. Hence, their transit becomes important. Considering your chart, Sa and ju are also FK for 11th, 12th, 1st and 2nd. So income wise and pleasure wise also they will show good status when they transit houses with high points. Your observation of Sa antra always giving job change is completely in line with KAS. Sameer, 10th is considered for authority and 6th is considered for job. 12th to any house is loss (or rather read it as change) to house. So, 12th to 6th is 5th and that would be used for job changes. Ofcourse, we should also check 10th and 11th house status which are authority and income. Now, your Saturn is SD to ma and su. Ma is LoE, highest significator. Su is LoD, second highest significator for 5th house. Now, overall points of Sa are good for all houses except for 1st, 5th and 9th. Hence, the job changes that you going in for. In order to narrow down further, look at the PDF in your ke/sa period. In pdf terms the time periods of 4/14 - 4/27 and 5/11 to 5/14 look very promising, that is ma/ke and ma/su. Both ma and su have good strength in WS and ke is like ma only. I would not be surprised if previous job changes have happened during this time period. Also as per your chart, mo antra should be giving results similar to Sa antra. Is that correct? Hope this helps. Ash: Here, for non-marriage events, how do we select sector? Is the process similar. There is no zero is the chart, hence, 1st sector? Thanks & Regards, Manu , " sameer_sawhney " <ssawhney wrote: > > Hi, > > What is the significance of Transit Sa + Ju points in a sub-period ? > > Does the event take place only when Transit Sa+Ju is greater than 8 > in a particular sub-period ? > > I have had all my previous job changes in Saturn's antara and the > funny thing is that I have recently started Saturn's antara and I am > looking out for one again. > > I did some analysis with my limited know how of the KAS as to why > Saturn is trigerring my job changes. Saturn is LoD for 10th house (B) > and SD to Sun (LoC) and is in Mars Navamsa (LoA and LoB). > > So Saturn is very potent to give 10th house results in its antara. > > How do I time the event further as to when can I expect some break ? > Do I have to rely on Tr Sa+Ju points which are low right now but will > improve in Oct/Nov. > > I am assuming that Sun's transit is finally used to time the event > within 13 days but I am not sure on how to use the PDF sheet for the > same. > > Any inputs will be appreciated. > > > Regards, > Sameer > > 27/7/76, 6:25am, India (76e46,30n44) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Hi Manu, My Sa antara started in May'06 so earlier dates in the PDF dont hold good. Right now Sun and Ketu is running till 30th Aug and I was expecting some good news but it turned out to be negative. Some of the past dates are 15 Mar'99, 15 Sep'99 and 28 May'01 which fall in Sa antara but in different sectors. The only difference I see is that in all previous cases Tr Sa + Ju was greater than 8. Regards, Sameer , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Sameer, Ash, > > Let me try and explain it based on what I understand. Ash, kindly > correct me if required. > > The points held by the planets in transit directly effect the karkatwa > held by the planet. So, if a planet gets high points (>4) in transit, > as LoA it has improved. If you check, ju and sa are LoA for 2, 3, 4, > and 5th house of natural chart. Transit points of Sa and Ju being high > enhances these houses since these planets are LoA for these houses. It > shall give you good wealth status, courage, general happiness and good > chances in shares etc. So in general we say that ju + Sa > 8 points > gives sound financial position and less of worries. > > Also, sa and ju being slow moving planets, they leave a distinct mark > on us because we remain under their influence (good or bad) for a > longer period of time. Hence, their transit becomes important. > > Considering your chart, Sa and ju are also FK for 11th, 12th, 1st and > 2nd. So income wise and pleasure wise also they will show good status > when they transit houses with high points. > > Your observation of Sa antra always giving job change is completely in > line with KAS. Sameer, 10th is considered for authority and 6th is > considered for job. 12th to any house is loss (or rather read it as > change) to house. So, 12th to 6th is 5th and that would be used for > job changes. Ofcourse, we should also check 10th and 11th house status > which are authority and income. > > Now, your Saturn is SD to ma and su. Ma is LoE, highest significator. > Su is LoD, second highest significator for 5th house. Now, overall > points of Sa are good for all houses except for 1st, 5th and 9th. > Hence, the job changes that you going in for. In order to narrow down > further, look at the PDF in your ke/sa period. In pdf terms the time > periods of 4/14 - 4/27 and 5/11 to 5/14 look very promising, that is > ma/ke and ma/su. Both ma and su have good strength in WS and ke is > like ma only. I would not be surprised if previous job changes have > happened during this time period. Also as per your chart, mo antra > should be giving results similar to Sa antra. Is that correct? > > Hope this helps. > > Ash: Here, for non-marriage events, how do we select sector? Is the > process similar. There is no zero is the chart, hence, 1st sector? > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > > > , " sameer_sawhney " > <ssawhney@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > What is the significance of Transit Sa + Ju points in a sub- period ? > > > > Does the event take place only when Transit Sa+Ju is greater than 8 > > in a particular sub-period ? > > > > I have had all my previous job changes in Saturn's antara and the > > funny thing is that I have recently started Saturn's antara and I am > > looking out for one again. > > > > I did some analysis with my limited know how of the KAS as to why > > Saturn is trigerring my job changes. Saturn is LoD for 10th house (B) > > and SD to Sun (LoC) and is in Mars Navamsa (LoA and LoB). > > > > So Saturn is very potent to give 10th house results in its antara. > > > > How do I time the event further as to when can I expect some break ? > > Do I have to rely on Tr Sa+Ju points which are low right now but will > > improve in Oct/Nov. > > > > I am assuming that Sun's transit is finally used to time the event > > within 13 days but I am not sure on how to use the PDF sheet for the > > same. > > > > Any inputs will be appreciated. > > > > > > Regards, > > Sameer > > > > 27/7/76, 6:25am, India (76e46,30n44) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Dear Sameer, Please explain what u mean that the PDF's dont hold good? For all these jobs, the dates given here what are they? Are they the time these jobs were conceived ? or were they your start dates? Cheers !!! Ash , " sameer_sawhney " <ssawhney wrote: > > Hi Manu, > > My Sa antara started in May'06 so earlier dates in the PDF dont hold > good. Right now Sun and Ketu is running till 30th Aug and I was > expecting some good news but it turned out to be negative. > > Some of the past dates are 15 Mar'99, 15 Sep'99 and 28 May'01 which > fall in Sa antara but in different sectors. > > The only difference I see is that in all previous cases Tr Sa + Ju > was greater than 8. > > > Regards, > Sameer > > > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sameer, Ash, > > > > Let me try and explain it based on what I understand. Ash, kindly > > correct me if required. > > > > The points held by the planets in transit directly effect the > karkatwa > > held by the planet. So, if a planet gets high points (>4) in > transit, > > as LoA it has improved. If you check, ju and sa are LoA for 2, 3, 4, > > and 5th house of natural chart. Transit points of Sa and Ju being > high > > enhances these houses since these planets are LoA for these houses. > It > > shall give you good wealth status, courage, general happiness and > good > > chances in shares etc. So in general we say that ju + Sa > 8 points > > gives sound financial position and less of worries. > > > > Also, sa and ju being slow moving planets, they leave a distinct > mark > > on us because we remain under their influence (good or bad) for a > > longer period of time. Hence, their transit becomes important. > > > > Considering your chart, Sa and ju are also FK for 11th, 12th, 1st > and > > 2nd. So income wise and pleasure wise also they will show good > status > > when they transit houses with high points. > > > > Your observation of Sa antra always giving job change is completely > in > > line with KAS. Sameer, 10th is considered for authority and 6th is > > considered for job. 12th to any house is loss (or rather read it as > > change) to house. So, 12th to 6th is 5th and that would be used for > > job changes. Ofcourse, we should also check 10th and 11th house > status > > which are authority and income. > > > > Now, your Saturn is SD to ma and su. Ma is LoE, highest > significator. > > Su is LoD, second highest significator for 5th house. Now, overall > > points of Sa are good for all houses except for 1st, 5th and 9th. > > Hence, the job changes that you going in for. In order to narrow > down > > further, look at the PDF in your ke/sa period. In pdf terms the time > > periods of 4/14 - 4/27 and 5/11 to 5/14 look very promising, that is > > ma/ke and ma/su. Both ma and su have good strength in WS and ke is > > like ma only. I would not be surprised if previous job changes have > > happened during this time period. Also as per your chart, mo antra > > should be giving results similar to Sa antra. Is that correct? > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Ash: Here, for non-marriage events, how do we select sector? Is the > > process similar. There is no zero is the chart, hence, 1st sector? > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > , " sameer_sawhney " > > <ssawhney@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > What is the significance of Transit Sa + Ju points in a sub- > period ? > > > > > > Does the event take place only when Transit Sa+Ju is greater than > 8 > > > in a particular sub-period ? > > > > > > I have had all my previous job changes in Saturn's antara and the > > > funny thing is that I have recently started Saturn's antara and I > am > > > looking out for one again. > > > > > > I did some analysis with my limited know how of the KAS as to why > > > Saturn is trigerring my job changes. Saturn is LoD for 10th house > (B) > > > and SD to Sun (LoC) and is in Mars Navamsa (LoA and LoB). > > > > > > So Saturn is very potent to give 10th house results in its antara. > > > > > > How do I time the event further as to when can I expect some > break ? > > > Do I have to rely on Tr Sa+Ju points which are low right now but > will > > > improve in Oct/Nov. > > > > > > I am assuming that Sun's transit is finally used to time the > event > > > within 13 days but I am not sure on how to use the PDF sheet for > the > > > same. > > > > > > Any inputs will be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Sameer > > > > > > 27/7/76, 6:25am, India (76e46,30n44) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Dear Ash, I meant that dates in PDF before Sa antara started doesnt hold good as I was not looking out during that period. They are all start dates here. But the date of getting the actual job offer will be within a period of max one month from these dates. Regards, Sameer , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Sameer, > Please explain what u mean that the PDF's dont hold good? > > For all these jobs, the dates given here what are they? Are they > the time these jobs were conceived ? or were they your start dates? > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > , " sameer_sawhney " > <ssawhney@> wrote: > > > > Hi Manu, > > > > My Sa antara started in May'06 so earlier dates in the PDF dont > hold > > good. Right now Sun and Ketu is running till 30th Aug and I was > > expecting some good news but it turned out to be negative. > > > > Some of the past dates are 15 Mar'99, 15 Sep'99 and 28 May'01 > which > > fall in Sa antara but in different sectors. > > > > The only difference I see is that in all previous cases Tr Sa + Ju > > was greater than 8. > > > > > > Regards, > > Sameer > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sameer, Ash, > > > > > > Let me try and explain it based on what I understand. Ash, kindly > > > correct me if required. > > > > > > The points held by the planets in transit directly effect the > > karkatwa > > > held by the planet. So, if a planet gets high points (>4) in > > transit, > > > as LoA it has improved. If you check, ju and sa are LoA for 2, > 3, 4, > > > and 5th house of natural chart. Transit points of Sa and Ju > being > > high > > > enhances these houses since these planets are LoA for these > houses. > > It > > > shall give you good wealth status, courage, general happiness > and > > good > > > chances in shares etc. So in general we say that ju + Sa > 8 > points > > > gives sound financial position and less of worries. > > > > > > Also, sa and ju being slow moving planets, they leave a distinct > > mark > > > on us because we remain under their influence (good or bad) for a > > > longer period of time. Hence, their transit becomes important. > > > > > > Considering your chart, Sa and ju are also FK for 11th, 12th, > 1st > > and > > > 2nd. So income wise and pleasure wise also they will show good > > status > > > when they transit houses with high points. > > > > > > Your observation of Sa antra always giving job change is > completely > > in > > > line with KAS. Sameer, 10th is considered for authority and 6th > is > > > considered for job. 12th to any house is loss (or rather read it > as > > > change) to house. So, 12th to 6th is 5th and that would be used > for > > > job changes. Ofcourse, we should also check 10th and 11th house > > status > > > which are authority and income. > > > > > > Now, your Saturn is SD to ma and su. Ma is LoE, highest > > significator. > > > Su is LoD, second highest significator for 5th house. Now, > overall > > > points of Sa are good for all houses except for 1st, 5th and 9th. > > > Hence, the job changes that you going in for. In order to narrow > > down > > > further, look at the PDF in your ke/sa period. In pdf terms the > time > > > periods of 4/14 - 4/27 and 5/11 to 5/14 look very promising, > that is > > > ma/ke and ma/su. Both ma and su have good strength in WS and ke > is > > > like ma only. I would not be surprised if previous job changes > have > > > happened during this time period. Also as per your chart, mo > antra > > > should be giving results similar to Sa antra. Is that correct? > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > Ash: Here, for non-marriage events, how do we select sector? Is > the > > > process similar. There is no zero is the chart, hence, 1st > sector? > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " sameer_sawhney " > > > <ssawhney@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > What is the significance of Transit Sa + Ju points in a sub- > > period ? > > > > > > > > Does the event take place only when Transit Sa+Ju is greater > than > > 8 > > > > in a particular sub-period ? > > > > > > > > I have had all my previous job changes in Saturn's antara and > the > > > > funny thing is that I have recently started Saturn's antara > and I > > am > > > > looking out for one again. > > > > > > > > I did some analysis with my limited know how of the KAS as to > why > > > > Saturn is trigerring my job changes. Saturn is LoD for 10th > house > > (B) > > > > and SD to Sun (LoC) and is in Mars Navamsa (LoA and LoB). > > > > > > > > So Saturn is very potent to give 10th house results in its > antara. > > > > > > > > How do I time the event further as to when can I expect some > > break ? > > > > Do I have to rely on Tr Sa+Ju points which are low right now > but > > will > > > > improve in Oct/Nov. > > > > > > > > I am assuming that Sun's transit is finally used to time the > > event > > > > within 13 days but I am not sure on how to use the PDF sheet > for > > the > > > > same. > > > > > > > > Any inputs will be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > 27/7/76, 6:25am, India (76e46,30n44) > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Dear Sameer, We generally go by the conception theory. Even for child birth as per KAS, we do not time the child birth date, instead we time the conception of childbirth. So it becomes inmportant to identify the conception of the jobs. Start date can be anything. There can also be man made delays, such as someone negotiating to take a week or two off before starting a new job etc. Pleaes undestand the mail of Manu. He has given u good insight into sa and ju points, which incidentally are not used for timing of event. There is a lot of theory behind it.... however with practice u will start to see the power of that. Cheers !!! Ash , " sameer_sawhney " <ssawhney wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > I meant that dates in PDF before Sa antara started doesnt hold good > as I was not looking out during that period. > > They are all start dates here. But the date of getting the actual job > offer will be within a period of max one month from these dates. > > > Regards, > Sameer > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sameer, > > Please explain what u mean that the PDF's dont hold good? > > > > For all these jobs, the dates given here what are they? Are they > > the time these jobs were conceived ? or were they your start dates? > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- In , " sameer_sawhney " > > <ssawhney@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Manu, > > > > > > My Sa antara started in May'06 so earlier dates in the PDF dont > > hold > > > good. Right now Sun and Ketu is running till 30th Aug and I was > > > expecting some good news but it turned out to be negative. > > > > > > Some of the past dates are 15 Mar'99, 15 Sep'99 and 28 May'01 > > which > > > fall in Sa antara but in different sectors. > > > > > > The only difference I see is that in all previous cases Tr Sa + > Ju > > > was greater than 8. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sameer, Ash, > > > > > > > > Let me try and explain it based on what I understand. Ash, > kindly > > > > correct me if required. > > > > > > > > The points held by the planets in transit directly effect the > > > karkatwa > > > > held by the planet. So, if a planet gets high points (>4) in > > > transit, > > > > as LoA it has improved. If you check, ju and sa are LoA for 2, > > 3, 4, > > > > and 5th house of natural chart. Transit points of Sa and Ju > > being > > > high > > > > enhances these houses since these planets are LoA for these > > houses. > > > It > > > > shall give you good wealth status, courage, general happiness > > and > > > good > > > > chances in shares etc. So in general we say that ju + Sa > 8 > > points > > > > gives sound financial position and less of worries. > > > > > > > > Also, sa and ju being slow moving planets, they leave a > distinct > > > mark > > > > on us because we remain under their influence (good or bad) for > a > > > > longer period of time. Hence, their transit becomes important. > > > > > > > > Considering your chart, Sa and ju are also FK for 11th, 12th, > > 1st > > > and > > > > 2nd. So income wise and pleasure wise also they will show good > > > status > > > > when they transit houses with high points. > > > > > > > > Your observation of Sa antra always giving job change is > > completely > > > in > > > > line with KAS. Sameer, 10th is considered for authority and 6th > > is > > > > considered for job. 12th to any house is loss (or rather read > it > > as > > > > change) to house. So, 12th to 6th is 5th and that would be used > > for > > > > job changes. Ofcourse, we should also check 10th and 11th house > > > status > > > > which are authority and income. > > > > > > > > Now, your Saturn is SD to ma and su. Ma is LoE, highest > > > significator. > > > > Su is LoD, second highest significator for 5th house. Now, > > overall > > > > points of Sa are good for all houses except for 1st, 5th and > 9th. > > > > Hence, the job changes that you going in for. In order to > narrow > > > down > > > > further, look at the PDF in your ke/sa period. In pdf terms the > > time > > > > periods of 4/14 - 4/27 and 5/11 to 5/14 look very promising, > > that is > > > > ma/ke and ma/su. Both ma and su have good strength in WS and ke > > is > > > > like ma only. I would not be surprised if previous job changes > > have > > > > happened during this time period. Also as per your chart, mo > > antra > > > > should be giving results similar to Sa antra. Is that correct? > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > Ash: Here, for non-marriage events, how do we select sector? Is > > the > > > > process similar. There is no zero is the chart, hence, 1st > > sector? > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " sameer_sawhney " > > > > <ssawhney@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > What is the significance of Transit Sa + Ju points in a sub- > > > period ? > > > > > > > > > > Does the event take place only when Transit Sa+Ju is greater > > than > > > 8 > > > > > in a particular sub-period ? > > > > > > > > > > I have had all my previous job changes in Saturn's antara and > > the > > > > > funny thing is that I have recently started Saturn's antara > > and I > > > am > > > > > looking out for one again. > > > > > > > > > > I did some analysis with my limited know how of the KAS as to > > why > > > > > Saturn is trigerring my job changes. Saturn is LoD for 10th > > house > > > (B) > > > > > and SD to Sun (LoC) and is in Mars Navamsa (LoA and LoB). > > > > > > > > > > So Saturn is very potent to give 10th house results in its > > antara. > > > > > > > > > > How do I time the event further as to when can I expect some > > > break ? > > > > > Do I have to rely on Tr Sa+Ju points which are low right now > > but > > > will > > > > > improve in Oct/Nov. > > > > > > > > > > I am assuming that Sun's transit is finally used to time the > > > event > > > > > within 13 days but I am not sure on how to use the PDF sheet > > for > > > the > > > > > same. > > > > > > > > > > Any inputs will be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > 27/7/76, 6:25am, India (76e46,30n44) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Dear Ash, Is conception of job here equivalent to getting a new job offer or is it when you really start looking out for a change ? So as per KAS conception should happen when Sun transits a power significator planet's house or nakshatra in a right antara. We look at 5 th house for changes in job and so powerful significator for H5 in worksheet or their SD should be involved somehow. The reason I started this discussion was because its only the KAS where the same antara is trigerring off the similar results for me and thats awesome. Regards, Sameer , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Sameer, > We generally go by the conception theory. Even for child birth as > per KAS, we do not time the child birth date, instead we time the > conception of childbirth. > > So it becomes inmportant to identify the conception of the jobs. > Start date can be anything. There can also be man made delays, such > as someone negotiating to take a week or two off before starting a > new job etc. > > Pleaes undestand the mail of Manu. He has given u good insight into > sa and ju points, which incidentally are not used for timing of > event. There is a lot of theory behind it.... however with practice > u will start to see the power of that. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " sameer_sawhney " > <ssawhney@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > I meant that dates in PDF before Sa antara started doesnt hold > good > > as I was not looking out during that period. > > > > They are all start dates here. But the date of getting the actual > job > > offer will be within a period of max one month from these dates. > > > > > > Regards, > > Sameer > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sameer, > > > Please explain what u mean that the PDF's dont hold good? > > > > > > For all these jobs, the dates given here what are they? Are > they > > > the time these jobs were conceived ? or were they your start > dates? > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " sameer_sawhney " > > > <ssawhney@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Manu, > > > > > > > > My Sa antara started in May'06 so earlier dates in the PDF > dont > > > hold > > > > good. Right now Sun and Ketu is running till 30th Aug and I > was > > > > expecting some good news but it turned out to be negative. > > > > > > > > Some of the past dates are 15 Mar'99, 15 Sep'99 and 28 May'01 > > > which > > > > fall in Sa antara but in different sectors. > > > > > > > > The only difference I see is that in all previous cases Tr Sa > + > > Ju > > > > was greater than 8. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sameer, Ash, > > > > > > > > > > Let me try and explain it based on what I understand. Ash, > > kindly > > > > > correct me if required. > > > > > > > > > > The points held by the planets in transit directly effect > the > > > > karkatwa > > > > > held by the planet. So, if a planet gets high points (>4) in > > > > transit, > > > > > as LoA it has improved. If you check, ju and sa are LoA for > 2, > > > 3, 4, > > > > > and 5th house of natural chart. Transit points of Sa and Ju > > > being > > > > high > > > > > enhances these houses since these planets are LoA for these > > > houses. > > > > It > > > > > shall give you good wealth status, courage, general > happiness > > > and > > > > good > > > > > chances in shares etc. So in general we say that ju + Sa > 8 > > > points > > > > > gives sound financial position and less of worries. > > > > > > > > > > Also, sa and ju being slow moving planets, they leave a > > distinct > > > > mark > > > > > on us because we remain under their influence (good or bad) > for > > a > > > > > longer period of time. Hence, their transit becomes > important. > > > > > > > > > > Considering your chart, Sa and ju are also FK for 11th, > 12th, > > > 1st > > > > and > > > > > 2nd. So income wise and pleasure wise also they will show > good > > > > status > > > > > when they transit houses with high points. > > > > > > > > > > Your observation of Sa antra always giving job change is > > > completely > > > > in > > > > > line with KAS. Sameer, 10th is considered for authority and > 6th > > > is > > > > > considered for job. 12th to any house is loss (or rather > read > > it > > > as > > > > > change) to house. So, 12th to 6th is 5th and that would be > used > > > for > > > > > job changes. Ofcourse, we should also check 10th and 11th > house > > > > status > > > > > which are authority and income. > > > > > > > > > > Now, your Saturn is SD to ma and su. Ma is LoE, highest > > > > significator. > > > > > Su is LoD, second highest significator for 5th house. Now, > > > overall > > > > > points of Sa are good for all houses except for 1st, 5th and > > 9th. > > > > > Hence, the job changes that you going in for. In order to > > narrow > > > > down > > > > > further, look at the PDF in your ke/sa period. In pdf terms > the > > > time > > > > > periods of 4/14 - 4/27 and 5/11 to 5/14 look very promising, > > > that is > > > > > ma/ke and ma/su. Both ma and su have good strength in WS and > ke > > > is > > > > > like ma only. I would not be surprised if previous job > changes > > > have > > > > > happened during this time period. Also as per your chart, mo > > > antra > > > > > should be giving results similar to Sa antra. Is that > correct? > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > Ash: Here, for non-marriage events, how do we select sector? > Is > > > the > > > > > process similar. There is no zero is the chart, hence, 1st > > > sector? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " sameer_sawhney " > > > > > <ssawhney@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the significance of Transit Sa + Ju points in a > sub- > > > > period ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Does the event take place only when Transit Sa+Ju is > greater > > > than > > > > 8 > > > > > > in a particular sub-period ? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had all my previous job changes in Saturn's antara > and > > > the > > > > > > funny thing is that I have recently started Saturn's > antara > > > and I > > > > am > > > > > > looking out for one again. > > > > > > > > > > > > I did some analysis with my limited know how of the KAS as > to > > > why > > > > > > Saturn is trigerring my job changes. Saturn is LoD for > 10th > > > house > > > > (B) > > > > > > and SD to Sun (LoC) and is in Mars Navamsa (LoA and LoB). > > > > > > > > > > > > So Saturn is very potent to give 10th house results in its > > > antara. > > > > > > > > > > > > How do I time the event further as to when can I expect > some > > > > break ? > > > > > > Do I have to rely on Tr Sa+Ju points which are low right > now > > > but > > > > will > > > > > > improve in Oct/Nov. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am assuming that Sun's transit is finally used to time > the > > > > event > > > > > > within 13 days but I am not sure on how to use the PDF > sheet > > > for > > > > the > > > > > > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any inputs will be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > 27/7/76, 6:25am, India (76e46,30n44) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Dear Sameer, When you sign the letter of acceptance, means u got the job that is when the job is conceived. The start date can be anytime after that. There are so many things in your Sa antra and sa and ju points.... Cheers !!! Ash , " sameer_sawhney " <ssawhney wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Is conception of job here equivalent to getting a new job offer or is > it when you really start looking out for a change ? > > So as per KAS conception should happen when Sun transits a power > significator planet's house or nakshatra in a right antara. > > We look at 5 th house for changes in job and so powerful significator > for H5 in worksheet or their SD should be involved somehow. > > The reason I started this discussion was because its only the KAS > where the same antara is trigerring off the similar results for me > and thats awesome. > > > Regards, > Sameer > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sameer, > > We generally go by the conception theory. Even for child birth as > > per KAS, we do not time the child birth date, instead we time the > > conception of childbirth. > > > > So it becomes inmportant to identify the conception of the jobs. > > Start date can be anything. There can also be man made delays, > such > > as someone negotiating to take a week or two off before starting a > > new job etc. > > > > Pleaes undestand the mail of Manu. He has given u good insight > into > > sa and ju points, which incidentally are not used for timing of > > event. There is a lot of theory behind it.... however with > practice > > u will start to see the power of that. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > --- In , " sameer_sawhney " > > <ssawhney@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > I meant that dates in PDF before Sa antara started doesnt hold > > good > > > as I was not looking out during that period. > > > > > > They are all start dates here. But the date of getting the actual > > job > > > offer will be within a period of max one month from these dates. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Sameer > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sameer, > > > > Please explain what u mean that the PDF's dont hold good? > > > > > > > > For all these jobs, the dates given here what are they? Are > > they > > > > the time these jobs were conceived ? or were they your start > > dates? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " sameer_sawhney " > > > > <ssawhney@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Manu, > > > > > > > > > > My Sa antara started in May'06 so earlier dates in the PDF > > dont > > > > hold > > > > > good. Right now Sun and Ketu is running till 30th Aug and I > > was > > > > > expecting some good news but it turned out to be negative. > > > > > > > > > > Some of the past dates are 15 Mar'99, 15 Sep'99 and 28 May'01 > > > > which > > > > > fall in Sa antara but in different sectors. > > > > > > > > > > The only difference I see is that in all previous cases Tr Sa > > + > > > Ju > > > > > was greater than 8. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > Batura " > > > > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sameer, Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me try and explain it based on what I understand. Ash, > > > kindly > > > > > > correct me if required. > > > > > > > > > > > > The points held by the planets in transit directly effect > > the > > > > > karkatwa > > > > > > held by the planet. So, if a planet gets high points (>4) > in > > > > > transit, > > > > > > as LoA it has improved. If you check, ju and sa are LoA for > > 2, > > > > 3, 4, > > > > > > and 5th house of natural chart. Transit points of Sa and Ju > > > > being > > > > > high > > > > > > enhances these houses since these planets are LoA for these > > > > houses. > > > > > It > > > > > > shall give you good wealth status, courage, general > > happiness > > > > and > > > > > good > > > > > > chances in shares etc. So in general we say that ju + Sa > > 8 > > > > points > > > > > > gives sound financial position and less of worries. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, sa and ju being slow moving planets, they leave a > > > distinct > > > > > mark > > > > > > on us because we remain under their influence (good or bad) > > for > > > a > > > > > > longer period of time. Hence, their transit becomes > > important. > > > > > > > > > > > > Considering your chart, Sa and ju are also FK for 11th, > > 12th, > > > > 1st > > > > > and > > > > > > 2nd. So income wise and pleasure wise also they will show > > good > > > > > status > > > > > > when they transit houses with high points. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your observation of Sa antra always giving job change is > > > > completely > > > > > in > > > > > > line with KAS. Sameer, 10th is considered for authority and > > 6th > > > > is > > > > > > considered for job. 12th to any house is loss (or rather > > read > > > it > > > > as > > > > > > change) to house. So, 12th to 6th is 5th and that would be > > used > > > > for > > > > > > job changes. Ofcourse, we should also check 10th and 11th > > house > > > > > status > > > > > > which are authority and income. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, your Saturn is SD to ma and su. Ma is LoE, highest > > > > > significator. > > > > > > Su is LoD, second highest significator for 5th house. Now, > > > > overall > > > > > > points of Sa are good for all houses except for 1st, 5th > and > > > 9th. > > > > > > Hence, the job changes that you going in for. In order to > > > narrow > > > > > down > > > > > > further, look at the PDF in your ke/sa period. In pdf terms > > the > > > > time > > > > > > periods of 4/14 - 4/27 and 5/11 to 5/14 look very > promising, > > > > that is > > > > > > ma/ke and ma/su. Both ma and su have good strength in WS > and > > ke > > > > is > > > > > > like ma only. I would not be surprised if previous job > > changes > > > > have > > > > > > happened during this time period. Also as per your chart, > mo > > > > antra > > > > > > should be giving results similar to Sa antra. Is that > > correct? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash: Here, for non-marriage events, how do we select > sector? > > Is > > > > the > > > > > > process similar. There is no zero is the chart, hence, 1st > > > > sector? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " sameer_sawhney " > > > > > > <ssawhney@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the significance of Transit Sa + Ju points in a > > sub- > > > > > period ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does the event take place only when Transit Sa+Ju is > > greater > > > > than > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > in a particular sub-period ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had all my previous job changes in Saturn's antara > > and > > > > the > > > > > > > funny thing is that I have recently started Saturn's > > antara > > > > and I > > > > > am > > > > > > > looking out for one again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did some analysis with my limited know how of the KAS > as > > to > > > > why > > > > > > > Saturn is trigerring my job changes. Saturn is LoD for > > 10th > > > > house > > > > > (B) > > > > > > > and SD to Sun (LoC) and is in Mars Navamsa (LoA and LoB). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So Saturn is very potent to give 10th house results in > its > > > > antara. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do I time the event further as to when can I expect > > some > > > > > break ? > > > > > > > Do I have to rely on Tr Sa+Ju points which are low right > > now > > > > but > > > > > will > > > > > > > improve in Oct/Nov. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am assuming that Sun's transit is finally used to time > > the > > > > > event > > > > > > > within 13 days but I am not sure on how to use the PDF > > sheet > > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any inputs will be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27/7/76, 6:25am, India (76e46,30n44) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Thanks Ash. Yes I am expecting a lot of events in Sa antara, like birth of first Child, moving to a new home etc. , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Sameer, > > When you sign the letter of acceptance, means u got the job that is > when the job is conceived. The start date can be anytime after that. > > There are so many things in your Sa antra and sa and ju points.... > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " sameer_sawhney " > <ssawhney@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Is conception of job here equivalent to getting a new job offer or > is > > it when you really start looking out for a change ? > > > > So as per KAS conception should happen when Sun transits a power > > significator planet's house or nakshatra in a right antara. > > > > We look at 5 th house for changes in job and so powerful > significator > > for H5 in worksheet or their SD should be involved somehow. > > > > The reason I started this discussion was because its only the KAS > > where the same antara is trigerring off the similar results for me > > and thats awesome. > > > > > > Regards, > > Sameer > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sameer, > > > We generally go by the conception theory. Even for child birth > as > > > per KAS, we do not time the child birth date, instead we time > the > > > conception of childbirth. > > > > > > So it becomes inmportant to identify the conception of the > jobs. > > > Start date can be anything. There can also be man made delays, > > such > > > as someone negotiating to take a week or two off before starting > a > > > new job etc. > > > > > > Pleaes undestand the mail of Manu. He has given u good insight > > into > > > sa and ju points, which incidentally are not used for timing of > > > event. There is a lot of theory behind it.... however with > > practice > > > u will start to see the power of that. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > --- In > , " sameer_sawhney " > > > <ssawhney@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > I meant that dates in PDF before Sa antara started doesnt hold > > > good > > > > as I was not looking out during that period. > > > > > > > > They are all start dates here. But the date of getting the > actual > > > job > > > > offer will be within a period of max one month from these > dates. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sameer, > > > > > Please explain what u mean that the PDF's dont hold good? > > > > > > > > > > For all these jobs, the dates given here what are they? Are > > > they > > > > > the time these jobs were conceived ? or were they your start > > > dates? > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " sameer_sawhney " > > > > > <ssawhney@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > > My Sa antara started in May'06 so earlier dates in the PDF > > > dont > > > > > hold > > > > > > good. Right now Sun and Ketu is running till 30th Aug and > I > > > was > > > > > > expecting some good news but it turned out to be negative. > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the past dates are 15 Mar'99, 15 Sep'99 and 28 > May'01 > > > > > which > > > > > > fall in Sa antara but in different sectors. > > > > > > > > > > > > The only difference I see is that in all previous cases Tr > Sa > > > + > > > > Ju > > > > > > was greater than 8. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > Batura " > > > > > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sameer, Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me try and explain it based on what I understand. > Ash, > > > > kindly > > > > > > > correct me if required. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The points held by the planets in transit directly > effect > > > the > > > > > > karkatwa > > > > > > > held by the planet. So, if a planet gets high points > (>4) > > in > > > > > > transit, > > > > > > > as LoA it has improved. If you check, ju and sa are LoA > for > > > 2, > > > > > 3, 4, > > > > > > > and 5th house of natural chart. Transit points of Sa and > Ju > > > > > being > > > > > > high > > > > > > > enhances these houses since these planets are LoA for > these > > > > > houses. > > > > > > It > > > > > > > shall give you good wealth status, courage, general > > > happiness > > > > > and > > > > > > good > > > > > > > chances in shares etc. So in general we say that ju + Sa > > > > 8 > > > > > points > > > > > > > gives sound financial position and less of worries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, sa and ju being slow moving planets, they leave a > > > > distinct > > > > > > mark > > > > > > > on us because we remain under their influence (good or > bad) > > > for > > > > a > > > > > > > longer period of time. Hence, their transit becomes > > > important. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Considering your chart, Sa and ju are also FK for 11th, > > > 12th, > > > > > 1st > > > > > > and > > > > > > > 2nd. So income wise and pleasure wise also they will > show > > > good > > > > > > status > > > > > > > when they transit houses with high points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your observation of Sa antra always giving job change is > > > > > completely > > > > > > in > > > > > > > line with KAS. Sameer, 10th is considered for authority > and > > > 6th > > > > > is > > > > > > > considered for job. 12th to any house is loss (or rather > > > read > > > > it > > > > > as > > > > > > > change) to house. So, 12th to 6th is 5th and that would > be > > > used > > > > > for > > > > > > > job changes. Ofcourse, we should also check 10th and > 11th > > > house > > > > > > status > > > > > > > which are authority and income. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, your Saturn is SD to ma and su. Ma is LoE, highest > > > > > > significator. > > > > > > > Su is LoD, second highest significator for 5th house. > Now, > > > > > overall > > > > > > > points of Sa are good for all houses except for 1st, 5th > > and > > > > 9th. > > > > > > > Hence, the job changes that you going in for. In order > to > > > > narrow > > > > > > down > > > > > > > further, look at the PDF in your ke/sa period. In pdf > terms > > > the > > > > > time > > > > > > > periods of 4/14 - 4/27 and 5/11 to 5/14 look very > > promising, > > > > > that is > > > > > > > ma/ke and ma/su. Both ma and su have good strength in WS > > and > > > ke > > > > > is > > > > > > > like ma only. I would not be surprised if previous job > > > changes > > > > > have > > > > > > > happened during this time period. Also as per your > chart, > > mo > > > > > antra > > > > > > > should be giving results similar to Sa antra. Is that > > > correct? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash: Here, for non-marriage events, how do we select > > sector? > > > Is > > > > > the > > > > > > > process similar. There is no zero is the chart, hence, > 1st > > > > > sector? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " sameer_sawhney " > > > > > > > <ssawhney@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the significance of Transit Sa + Ju points in > a > > > sub- > > > > > > period ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does the event take place only when Transit Sa+Ju is > > > greater > > > > > than > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > in a particular sub-period ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had all my previous job changes in Saturn's > antara > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > > > funny thing is that I have recently started Saturn's > > > antara > > > > > and I > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > looking out for one again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did some analysis with my limited know how of the > KAS > > as > > > to > > > > > why > > > > > > > > Saturn is trigerring my job changes. Saturn is LoD for > > > 10th > > > > > house > > > > > > (B) > > > > > > > > and SD to Sun (LoC) and is in Mars Navamsa (LoA and > LoB). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So Saturn is very potent to give 10th house results in > > its > > > > > antara. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do I time the event further as to when can I > expect > > > some > > > > > > break ? > > > > > > > > Do I have to rely on Tr Sa+Ju points which are low > right > > > now > > > > > but > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > improve in Oct/Nov. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am assuming that Sun's transit is finally used to > time > > > the > > > > > > event > > > > > > > > within 13 days but I am not sure on how to use the PDF > > > sheet > > > > > for > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any inputs will be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Sameer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 27/7/76, 6:25am, India (76e46,30n44) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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