Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Dear Manoshi, Please read Pratap's mail carefully w.r.t his Sa periods. in 1997-98 it was very good finaicial period for him, he was not happy which is a different thing. In Ma/Sa he was in a consulting job with lots of down time. So during the discussion i had also asked u to segegrate timing of event from quality. Your second point w.r.t. children, all the power in 5th house is strong. Also check the chart of Pratap's wife. Don't you remember Krushnaji telling us that stopping child birth is in our hands. Ju antra might have given conception which is LoE. It might be good to study Pratap's wifes chart after making sure that the birth time is accurate. Then, there after you can confirm. Hope that helps, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: Dear Ash (and Pratap): I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do you mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good period. What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. 1979- 80 was financially bad you mean. ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the reasons in my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont ignore from where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I see, Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house lord, from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 points which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th house and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that Jupiter which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to make it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more income and less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of income and less loss, but it did not happen. 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it should... :- ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter?>> My only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected Mo/Mo and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon and Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong according to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are transited by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no conception occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not predict child birth during this period? If not then could you give some hints why? Thanking you for your time --Manoshi , " pkaneria " <pkaneria wrote: > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer these > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87-88 (sat+jup > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), 1997- 98 > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup more > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I think I > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went bankrupt > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year lease > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In 87-88, I > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock market. > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for giving > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work ever > and if you did you may have done well too. > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 which I > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to go to US. > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I did very > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined second job > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit this job I > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting (independent) in > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did consulting > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation completely and > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a mortgage > broker with not much success. > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for sometime? Yes. I > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov 84 and > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than marriage? > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you elaborate > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing I can > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very happy at > work and successful. And other very important thing is that I had > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like a hobby > to me. > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something else in > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in 1976 and > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went up all > the way to the top. > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? My > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails that it > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so just want > to > > confirm some events. > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > thanks > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > navamsa, > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in 7th > house, > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary aspected by > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests multiple > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is aspcting venus > in > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will not come > > out > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I would > have > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now tell > what > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be spoon > > feeding, > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will learn > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > relationships > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not present in > > this > > > chart. > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this will help > > ust > > > to learn. > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ashji, > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second marriage or > > > affair ? > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for person to get > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital affairs ? > > > > please guide. > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would wait for > > the > > > > > answer. > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still overlooking > > > something > > > > > that > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa closely > please. > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa but in > rasi > > i > > > > > dont > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D and venus > > in > > > B > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and not > > acting > > > as > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of jupiter > on > > > venus > > > > > in > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i understood that > > > jupiter > > > > > when > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out in > public. > > > Here > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn in rasi > > and > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola nakshatra.. and > in > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in public as > its > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter checks > > > venus > > > > > here > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then it means > > > jupiter > > > > > on > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of venus. I > > know > > > i > > > > > have > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for my > better > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both in rasi > and > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am learner. > > > Your > > > > > venus > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are aspected by > > saturn > > > and > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra marital > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given yet, i > may > > be > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the barometer of > > > character > > > > > for > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive Krushnaji > has > > > said > > > > > mars > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral character... > i > > > think > > > > > if > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter for male > > > (which > > > > > is in > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet but was > > > curious... > > > > > i > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > possibility.. > > > Ashji > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the beginning and > > > came > > > > > across > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > marriages. > > > In my > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am married > > > only > > > > > once > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always give > results > > or > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are conditions > > that > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the lession that > > are > > > > > present > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which gives > multiple > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving here for > > your > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by Saturn, > > and > > > > > also > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is conjunct with > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points on 7th > > > house > > > > > and > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th house. > I > > > think > > > > > it > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus is in > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More possibility > of > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then 33% that > of > > > total > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th are less > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 points > in > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Respected Sir Ash The biggest problem which i always face using any method of prediction is to understand and give the ranking to different combination. On one hand there is " Blessing " . On other hand there is combination where lord of house B is situated in 12th house from B. So if both things are working in a horoscope then which one is going to dominate ? Please explain a bit. Best Wishes Jagdish ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pratap, You might refer to the following mail to get further insight into KAS. /message/3294 Check out this gentlemans WS points. Mostly all points are high. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " pkaneria " <pkaneria wrote: > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash (and Pratap): > > > > I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. > > > > 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do you > > mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good period. > > What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. > 1979- > > 80 was financially bad you mean. > > > > Pratap... 1972 - I need to clarify. I had good job and was making > progress. But I was very ambitious and was fighting to get promoted > as Manager. During this time I gave ultimatum and when they would > not give me the promotion, I left the company for like 2 or 3 weeks. > Then I got the call and they accepted my demand and I went back. > This is what I meant by struggle. Again 1979-80, I was doing very > well in job but the business investment went sour, although I never > ran out of money due to good cash flow from job. A couple more > events for verification. I bought my first house on June 29, 1974. I > bought a bigger house on June 29, 1983 (plus or minus a couple of > days) where I still live. > > A side note. I was just looking at ranking of planets by h1, h2 etc. > I find that Sa is always at the top with as much as 50+ points. I > looked at the chart of one of my friend who is far more successful > and none of his points are over 30. This guy is a world renowned > architect, owns his own business and is a multi millionaire. What is > holding my Sa up? :; If I have to wait for Sa mahadasa, it will be > too late. Somehow I have always felt that my best time is yet to > come! On this coming oct 23, my Sa+Ju transit points are moving upto > 12 from 7. May be a lottery? > > > > > > > ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the reasons > in > > my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont ignore > from > > where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I see, > > Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house > lord, > > from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 points > > which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th > house > > and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that > Jupiter > > which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to make > > it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more income > and > > less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of income > and > > less loss, but it did not happen. > > > > 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it should... :- > > ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. > > > > 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter?>> My > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " > > > > ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected Mo/Mo > > and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon and > > Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong > according > > to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are > transited > > by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no > conception > > occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not > predict > > child birth during this period? If not then could you give some > > hints why? > > > > Thanking you for your time > > --Manoshi > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer these > > > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87-88 > > (sat+jup > > > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), > 1997- > > 98 > > > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup > more > > > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > > > > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I > think > > I > > > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went > > bankrupt > > > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year > lease > > > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In 87- > 88, > > I > > > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock > > market. > > > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for > > giving > > > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work > ever > > > and if you did you may have done well too. > > > > > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 which > I > > > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to go to > > US. > > > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I did > > very > > > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined second > > job > > > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit this > job > > I > > > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting (independent) > > in > > > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did > > consulting > > > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation completely > and > > > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a > > mortgage > > > broker with not much success. > > > > > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for sometime? > Yes. > > I > > > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov 84 > and > > > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than > > marriage? > > > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you > > elaborate > > > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing I > can > > > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very happy > at > > > work and successful. And other very important thing is that I > had > > > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > > > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like a > > hobby > > > to me. > > > > > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something else > > in > > > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in 1976 > and > > > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went up > > all > > > the way to the top. > > > > > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? My > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails > that > > it > > > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so just > > want > > > to > > > > confirm some events. > > > > > > > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > > > navamsa, > > > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in 7th > > > house, > > > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary aspected > by > > > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests > > multiple > > > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is aspcting > > venus > > > in > > > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will not > > come > > > > out > > > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I > would > > > have > > > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now > tell > > > what > > > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be spoon > > > > feeding, > > > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will learn > > > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > > > relationships > > > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not present > > in > > > > this > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this will > > help > > > > ust > > > > > to learn. > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ashji, > > > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second marriage > or > > > > > affair ? > > > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for person > to > > get > > > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital > > affairs ? > > > > > > please guide. > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would wait > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still overlooking > > > > > something > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa closely > > > please. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa but > in > > > rasi > > > > i > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D and > > venus > > > > in > > > > > B > > > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and not > > > > acting > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of > > jupiter > > > on > > > > > venus > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i understood > that > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out in > > > public. > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn in > > rasi > > > > and > > > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola nakshatra.. > and > > > in > > > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in public > as > > > its > > > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter > > checks > > > > > venus > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then it > > means > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of venus. > I > > > > know > > > > > i > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for my > > > better > > > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both in > rasi > > > and > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and > > regards. > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am > > learner. > > > > > Your > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are aspected > by > > > > saturn > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra marital > > > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given yet, > i > > > may > > > > be > > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the barometer of > > > > > character > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive > Krushnaji > > > has > > > > > said > > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral > > character... > > > i > > > > > think > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter for > > male > > > > > (which > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet but > was > > > > > curious... > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > > > possibility.. > > > > > Ashji > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the beginning > > and > > > > > came > > > > > > > across > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > > > marriages. > > > > > In my > > > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am > > married > > > > > only > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always give > > > results > > > > or > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are > > conditions > > > > that > > > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, > 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the lession > > that > > > > are > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which gives > > > multiple > > > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving here > for > > > > your > > > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by > > Saturn, > > > > and > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is conjunct > > with > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points on > > 7th > > > > > house > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th > > house. > > > I > > > > > think > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus is > in > > > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More > > possibility > > > of > > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then 33% > > that > > > of > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th are > > less > > > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 > points > > > in > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Respected Sir Ash Greetings Once i became very much interested in KAS. I liked it very much as it is so precise and mathematical. I started reading all the mails in the past. I was more impressed till i read message no 3294. I felt that the person is having very high points in 6th house. 6th house is house of status and its lord is in 5th from it. So everything is good regarding 6th house matter then why this person could not get any status in his life ? You said in your email while solving the puzzle that the person may be a government servant with high status but very little salary. And i still feel that you were right at that time. His lagna lord and 7th lord are in 12th house. So they both are in " high status " . I think that if Lagna-Lord is strong in someone's horoscope then it can save him from many problems in life. In this case, atleast this person should not be a beggar. One of the point in lessons is " whereever 12th lord sits it increases the status of that house. In this horoscope, 12th lord is in 11th house hence increasing the status but decreasin the status of 12th house. 11th lord is in 11th from it. 2nd lord is in 11th from 2nd house. 5th lord is in 4th from 5th house. 8th lord is in 2nd from 8th house.......so far no problem. Now if we focus only on income then except the fact that the person having 21 points in 11th house nothing is so bad which can make a person beggar ? Money is very important factor in life. If its not there then any house in the horoscope will not be helpful. So if he is still a beggar then most probably his wife might have left him along with kids. Definitely he will not be having friends. For being a beggar, there should be NO BLESSINGS AT ALL in the horoscope. Sir, for being a beggar a person MUST HAVE his all house SEVERLY AFFECTED. And i dont see this in his case. Is this person still beggar ? I seriously doubt........... Best Wishes Jagdish ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pratap, You might refer to the following mail to get further insight into KAS. /message/3294 Check out this gentlemans WS points. Mostly all points are high. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " pkaneria " <pkaneria wrote: > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash (and Pratap): > > > > I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. > > > > 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do you > > mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good period. > > What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. > 1979- > > 80 was financially bad you mean. > > > > Pratap... 1972 - I need to clarify. I had good job and was making > progress. But I was very ambitious and was fighting to get promoted > as Manager. During this time I gave ultimatum and when they would > not give me the promotion, I left the company for like 2 or 3 weeks. > Then I got the call and they accepted my demand and I went back. > This is what I meant by struggle. Again 1979-80, I was doing very > well in job but the business investment went sour, although I never > ran out of money due to good cash flow from job. A couple more > events for verification. I bought my first house on June 29, 1974. I > bought a bigger house on June 29, 1983 (plus or minus a couple of > days) where I still live. > > A side note. I was just looking at ranking of planets by h1, h2 etc. > I find that Sa is always at the top with as much as 50+ points. I > looked at the chart of one of my friend who is far more successful > and none of his points are over 30. This guy is a world renowned > architect, owns his own business and is a multi millionaire. What is > holding my Sa up? :; If I have to wait for Sa mahadasa, it will be > too late. Somehow I have always felt that my best time is yet to > come! On this coming oct 23, my Sa+Ju transit points are moving upto > 12 from 7. May be a lottery? > > > > > > > ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the reasons > in > > my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont ignore > from > > where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I see, > > Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house > lord, > > from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 points > > which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th > house > > and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that > Jupiter > > which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to make > > it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more income > and > > less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of income > and > > less loss, but it did not happen. > > > > 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it should... :- > > ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. > > > > 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter?>> My > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " > > > > ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected Mo/Mo > > and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon and > > Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong > according > > to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are > transited > > by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no > conception > > occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not > predict > > child birth during this period? If not then could you give some > > hints why? > > > > Thanking you for your time > > --Manoshi > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer these > > > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87-88 > > (sat+jup > > > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), > 1997- > > 98 > > > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup > more > > > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > > > > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I > think > > I > > > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went > > bankrupt > > > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year > lease > > > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In 87- > 88, > > I > > > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock > > market. > > > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for > > giving > > > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work > ever > > > and if you did you may have done well too. > > > > > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 which > I > > > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to go to > > US. > > > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I did > > very > > > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined second > > job > > > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit this > job > > I > > > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting (independent) > > in > > > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did > > consulting > > > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation completely > and > > > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a > > mortgage > > > broker with not much success. > > > > > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for sometime? > Yes. > > I > > > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov 84 > and > > > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than > > marriage? > > > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you > > elaborate > > > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing I > can > > > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very happy > at > > > work and successful. And other very important thing is that I > had > > > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > > > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like a > > hobby > > > to me. > > > > > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something else > > in > > > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in 1976 > and > > > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went up > > all > > > the way to the top. > > > > > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? My > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails > that > > it > > > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so just > > want > > > to > > > > confirm some events. > > > > > > > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > > > navamsa, > > > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in 7th > > > house, > > > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary aspected > by > > > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests > > multiple > > > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is aspcting > > venus > > > in > > > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will not > > come > > > > out > > > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I > would > > > have > > > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now > tell > > > what > > > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be spoon > > > > feeding, > > > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will learn > > > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > > > relationships > > > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not present > > in > > > > this > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this will > > help > > > > ust > > > > > to learn. > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ashji, > > > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second marriage > or > > > > > affair ? > > > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for person > to > > get > > > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital > > affairs ? > > > > > > please guide. > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would wait > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still overlooking > > > > > something > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa closely > > > please. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa but > in > > > rasi > > > > i > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D and > > venus > > > > in > > > > > B > > > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and not > > > > acting > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of > > jupiter > > > on > > > > > venus > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i understood > that > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out in > > > public. > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn in > > rasi > > > > and > > > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola nakshatra.. > and > > > in > > > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in public > as > > > its > > > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter > > checks > > > > > venus > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then it > > means > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of venus. > I > > > > know > > > > > i > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for my > > > better > > > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both in > rasi > > > and > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and > > regards. > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am > > learner. > > > > > Your > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are aspected > by > > > > saturn > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra marital > > > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given yet, > i > > > may > > > > be > > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the barometer of > > > > > character > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive > Krushnaji > > > has > > > > > said > > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral > > character... > > > i > > > > > think > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter for > > male > > > > > (which > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet but > was > > > > > curious... > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > > > possibility.. > > > > > Ashji > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the beginning > > and > > > > > came > > > > > > > across > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > > > marriages. > > > > > In my > > > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am > > married > > > > > only > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always give > > > results > > > > or > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are > > conditions > > > > that > > > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, > 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the lession > > that > > > > are > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which gives > > > multiple > > > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving here > for > > > > your > > > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by > > Saturn, > > > > and > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is conjunct > > with > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points on > > 7th > > > > > house > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th > > house. > > > I > > > > > think > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus is > in > > > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More > > possibility > > > of > > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then 33% > > that > > > of > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th are > > less > > > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 > points > > > in > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Although i should not use other than KAS here but still i feel that i should explain the situation from Arudha Lagna. Lagna lord in the horoscope of the beggar falls in 12th house. So AL is in 11th house. Usually the income of a person is seen from 11th or 2nd house of Arudha lagna. This person has 2 planets in 2nd house from AL and 3 planets in 11th house from AL. How this person can be a beggar ? Best Wishes Jagdish ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pratap, You might refer to the following mail to get further insight into KAS. /message/3294 Check out this gentlemans WS points. Mostly all points are high. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " pkaneria " <pkaneria wrote: > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash (and Pratap): > > > > I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. > > > > 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do you > > mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good period. > > What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. > 1979- > > 80 was financially bad you mean. > > > > Pratap... 1972 - I need to clarify. I had good job and was making > progress. But I was very ambitious and was fighting to get promoted > as Manager. During this time I gave ultimatum and when they would > not give me the promotion, I left the company for like 2 or 3 weeks. > Then I got the call and they accepted my demand and I went back. > This is what I meant by struggle. Again 1979-80, I was doing very > well in job but the business investment went sour, although I never > ran out of money due to good cash flow from job. A couple more > events for verification. I bought my first house on June 29, 1974. I > bought a bigger house on June 29, 1983 (plus or minus a couple of > days) where I still live. > > A side note. I was just looking at ranking of planets by h1, h2 etc. > I find that Sa is always at the top with as much as 50+ points. I > looked at the chart of one of my friend who is far more successful > and none of his points are over 30. This guy is a world renowned > architect, owns his own business and is a multi millionaire. What is > holding my Sa up? :; If I have to wait for Sa mahadasa, it will be > too late. Somehow I have always felt that my best time is yet to > come! On this coming oct 23, my Sa+Ju transit points are moving upto > 12 from 7. May be a lottery? > > > > > > > ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the reasons > in > > my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont ignore > from > > where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I see, > > Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house > lord, > > from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 points > > which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th > house > > and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that > Jupiter > > which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to make > > it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more income > and > > less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of income > and > > less loss, but it did not happen. > > > > 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it should... :- > > ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. > > > > 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter?>> My > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " > > > > ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected Mo/Mo > > and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon and > > Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong > according > > to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are > transited > > by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no > conception > > occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not > predict > > child birth during this period? If not then could you give some > > hints why? > > > > Thanking you for your time > > --Manoshi > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer these > > > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87-88 > > (sat+jup > > > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), > 1997- > > 98 > > > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup > more > > > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > > > > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I > think > > I > > > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went > > bankrupt > > > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year > lease > > > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In 87- > 88, > > I > > > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock > > market. > > > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for > > giving > > > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work > ever > > > and if you did you may have done well too. > > > > > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 which > I > > > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to go to > > US. > > > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I did > > very > > > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined second > > job > > > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit this > job > > I > > > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting (independent) > > in > > > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did > > consulting > > > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation completely > and > > > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a > > mortgage > > > broker with not much success. > > > > > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for sometime? > Yes. > > I > > > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov 84 > and > > > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than > > marriage? > > > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you > > elaborate > > > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing I > can > > > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very happy > at > > > work and successful. And other very important thing is that I > had > > > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > > > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like a > > hobby > > > to me. > > > > > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something else > > in > > > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in 1976 > and > > > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went up > > all > > > the way to the top. > > > > > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? My > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails > that > > it > > > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so just > > want > > > to > > > > confirm some events. > > > > > > > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > > > navamsa, > > > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in 7th > > > house, > > > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary aspected > by > > > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests > > multiple > > > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is aspcting > > venus > > > in > > > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will not > > come > > > > out > > > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I > would > > > have > > > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now > tell > > > what > > > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be spoon > > > > feeding, > > > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will learn > > > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > > > relationships > > > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not present > > in > > > > this > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this will > > help > > > > ust > > > > > to learn. > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ashji, > > > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second marriage > or > > > > > affair ? > > > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for person > to > > get > > > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital > > affairs ? > > > > > > please guide. > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would wait > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still overlooking > > > > > something > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa closely > > > please. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa but > in > > > rasi > > > > i > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D and > > venus > > > > in > > > > > B > > > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and not > > > > acting > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of > > jupiter > > > on > > > > > venus > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i understood > that > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out in > > > public. > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn in > > rasi > > > > and > > > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola nakshatra.. > and > > > in > > > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in public > as > > > its > > > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter > > checks > > > > > venus > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then it > > means > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of venus. > I > > > > know > > > > > i > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for my > > > better > > > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both in > rasi > > > and > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and > > regards. > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am > > learner. > > > > > Your > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are aspected > by > > > > saturn > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra marital > > > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given yet, > i > > > may > > > > be > > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the barometer of > > > > > character > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive > Krushnaji > > > has > > > > > said > > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral > > character... > > > i > > > > > think > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter for > > male > > > > > (which > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet but > was > > > > > curious... > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > > > possibility.. > > > > > Ashji > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the beginning > > and > > > > > came > > > > > > > across > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > > > marriages. > > > > > In my > > > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am > > married > > > > > only > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always give > > > results > > > > or > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are > > conditions > > > > that > > > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, > 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the lession > > that > > > > are > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which gives > > > multiple > > > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving here > for > > > > your > > > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by > > Saturn, > > > > and > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is conjunct > > with > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points on > > 7th > > > > > house > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th > > house. > > > I > > > > > think > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus is > in > > > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More > > possibility > > > of > > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then 33% > > that > > > of > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th are > > less > > > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 > points > > > in > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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