Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Dear Ash (and Pratap): I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do you mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good period. What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. 1979- 80 was financially bad you mean. ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the reasons in my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont ignore from where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I see, Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house lord, from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 points which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th house and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that Jupiter which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to make it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more income and less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of income and less loss, but it did not happen. 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it should... :- ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter?>> My only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected Mo/Mo and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon and Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong according to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are transited by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no conception occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not predict child birth during this period? If not then could you give some hints why? Thanking you for your time --Manoshi , " pkaneria " <pkaneria wrote: > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer these > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87-88 (sat+jup > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), 1997- 98 > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup more > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I think I > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went bankrupt > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year lease > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In 87-88, I > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock market. > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for giving > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work ever > and if you did you may have done well too. > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 which I > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to go to US. > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I did very > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined second job > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit this job I > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting (independent) in > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did consulting > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation completely and > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a mortgage > broker with not much success. > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for sometime? Yes. I > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov 84 and > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than marriage? > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you elaborate > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing I can > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very happy at > work and successful. And other very important thing is that I had > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like a hobby > to me. > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something else in > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in 1976 and > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went up all > the way to the top. > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? My > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails that it > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so just want > to > > confirm some events. > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > thanks > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > navamsa, > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in 7th > house, > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary aspected by > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests multiple > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is aspcting venus > in > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will not come > > out > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I would > have > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now tell > what > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be spoon > > feeding, > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will learn > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > relationships > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not present in > > this > > > chart. > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this will help > > ust > > > to learn. > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ashji, > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second marriage or > > > affair ? > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for person to get > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital affairs ? > > > > please guide. > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would wait for > > the > > > > > answer. > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still overlooking > > > something > > > > > that > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa closely > please. > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa but in > rasi > > i > > > > > dont > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D and venus > > in > > > B > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and not > > acting > > > as > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of jupiter > on > > > venus > > > > > in > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i understood that > > > jupiter > > > > > when > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out in > public. > > > Here > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn in rasi > > and > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola nakshatra.. and > in > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in public as > its > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter checks > > > venus > > > > > here > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then it means > > > jupiter > > > > > on > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of venus. I > > know > > > i > > > > > have > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for my > better > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both in rasi > and > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am learner. > > > Your > > > > > venus > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are aspected by > > saturn > > > and > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra marital > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given yet, i > may > > be > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the barometer of > > > character > > > > > for > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive Krushnaji > has > > > said > > > > > mars > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral character... > i > > > think > > > > > if > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter for male > > > (which > > > > > is in > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet but was > > > curious... > > > > > i > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > possibility.. > > > Ashji > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the beginning and > > > came > > > > > across > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > marriages. > > > In my > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am married > > > only > > > > > once > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always give > results > > or > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are conditions > > that > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the lession that > > are > > > > > present > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which gives > multiple > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving here for > > your > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by Saturn, > > and > > > > > also > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is conjunct with > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points on 7th > > > house > > > > > and > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th house. > I > > > think > > > > > it > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus is in > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More possibility > of > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then 33% that > of > > > total > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th are less > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 points > in > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa wrote: > > Dear Ash (and Pratap): > > I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. > > 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do you > mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good period. > What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. 1979- > 80 was financially bad you mean. Pratap... 1972 - I need to clarify. I had good job and was making progress. But I was very ambitious and was fighting to get promoted as Manager. During this time I gave ultimatum and when they would not give me the promotion, I left the company for like 2 or 3 weeks. Then I got the call and they accepted my demand and I went back. This is what I meant by struggle. Again 1979-80, I was doing very well in job but the business investment went sour, although I never ran out of money due to good cash flow from job. A couple more events for verification. I bought my first house on June 29, 1974. I bought a bigger house on June 29, 1983 (plus or minus a couple of days) where I still live. A side note. I was just looking at ranking of planets by h1, h2 etc. I find that Sa is always at the top with as much as 50+ points. I looked at the chart of one of my friend who is far more successful and none of his points are over 30. This guy is a world renowned architect, owns his own business and is a multi millionaire. What is holding my Sa up? :; If I have to wait for Sa mahadasa, it will be too late. Somehow I have always felt that my best time is yet to come! On this coming oct 23, my Sa+Ju transit points are moving upto 12 from 7. May be a lottery? > > ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the reasons in > my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont ignore from > where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I see, > Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house lord, > from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 points > which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th house > and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that Jupiter > which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to make > it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more income and > less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of income and > less loss, but it did not happen. > > 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it should... :- > ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. > > 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter?>> My > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " > > ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected Mo/Mo > and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon and > Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong according > to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are transited > by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no conception > occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not predict > child birth during this period? If not then could you give some > hints why? > > Thanking you for your time > --Manoshi > > > , " pkaneria " > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer these > > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87-88 > (sat+jup > > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), 1997- > 98 > > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup more > > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I think > I > > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went > bankrupt > > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year lease > > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In 87- 88, > I > > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock > market. > > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for > giving > > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work ever > > and if you did you may have done well too. > > > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 which I > > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to go to > US. > > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I did > very > > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined second > job > > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit this job > I > > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting (independent) > in > > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did > consulting > > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation completely and > > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a > mortgage > > broker with not much success. > > > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for sometime? Yes. > I > > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov 84 and > > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than > marriage? > > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you > elaborate > > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing I can > > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very happy at > > work and successful. And other very important thing is that I had > > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like a > hobby > > to me. > > > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something else > in > > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in 1976 and > > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went up > all > > the way to the top. > > > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? My > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails that > it > > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so just > want > > to > > > confirm some events. > > > > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > > > thanks > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > > navamsa, > > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in 7th > > house, > > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary aspected by > > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests > multiple > > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is aspcting > venus > > in > > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will not > come > > > out > > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I would > > have > > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now tell > > what > > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be spoon > > > feeding, > > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will learn > > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > > relationships > > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not present > in > > > this > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this will > help > > > ust > > > > to learn. > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ashji, > > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second marriage or > > > > affair ? > > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for person to > get > > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital > affairs ? > > > > > please guide. > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would wait > for > > > the > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still overlooking > > > > something > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa closely > > please. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa but in > > rasi > > > i > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D and > venus > > > in > > > > B > > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and not > > > acting > > > > as > > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of > jupiter > > on > > > > venus > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i understood that > > > > jupiter > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out in > > public. > > > > Here > > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn in > rasi > > > and > > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola nakshatra.. and > > in > > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in public as > > its > > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter > checks > > > > venus > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then it > means > > > > jupiter > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of venus. I > > > know > > > > i > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for my > > better > > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both in rasi > > and > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and > regards. > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am > learner. > > > > Your > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are aspected by > > > saturn > > > > and > > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra marital > > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given yet, i > > may > > > be > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the barometer of > > > > character > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive Krushnaji > > has > > > > said > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral > character... > > i > > > > think > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter for > male > > > > (which > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet but was > > > > curious... > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > > possibility.. > > > > Ashji > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the beginning > and > > > > came > > > > > > across > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > > marriages. > > > > In my > > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am > married > > > > only > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always give > > results > > > or > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are > conditions > > > that > > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the lession > that > > > are > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which gives > > multiple > > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving here for > > > your > > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by > Saturn, > > > and > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is conjunct > with > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points on > 7th > > > > house > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th > house. > > I > > > > think > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus is in > > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More > possibility > > of > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then 33% > that > > of > > > > total > > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th are > less > > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 points > > in > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Dear Manoshi, My apology about my daughter's dasa. She was born in Sep 71 which is Sun/Jupiter. I had used ist -5 instead of ist -5:30, by mistake which I found when trying to reconcile charts from Jhora and the worksheet. Regards, Pratap , " pkaneria " <pkaneria wrote: > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash (and Pratap): > > > > I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. > > > > 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do you > > mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good period. > > What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. > 1979- > > 80 was financially bad you mean. > > > > Pratap... 1972 - I need to clarify. I had good job and was making > progress. But I was very ambitious and was fighting to get promoted > as Manager. During this time I gave ultimatum and when they would > not give me the promotion, I left the company for like 2 or 3 weeks. > Then I got the call and they accepted my demand and I went back. > This is what I meant by struggle. Again 1979-80, I was doing very > well in job but the business investment went sour, although I never > ran out of money due to good cash flow from job. A couple more > events for verification. I bought my first house on June 29, 1974. I > bought a bigger house on June 29, 1983 (plus or minus a couple of > days) where I still live. > > A side note. I was just looking at ranking of planets by h1, h2 etc. > I find that Sa is always at the top with as much as 50+ points. I > looked at the chart of one of my friend who is far more successful > and none of his points are over 30. This guy is a world renowned > architect, owns his own business and is a multi millionaire. What is > holding my Sa up? :; If I have to wait for Sa mahadasa, it will be > too late. Somehow I have always felt that my best time is yet to > come! On this coming oct 23, my Sa+Ju transit points are moving upto > 12 from 7. May be a lottery? > > > > > > > ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the reasons > in > > my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont ignore > from > > where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I see, > > Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house > lord, > > from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 points > > which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th > house > > and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that > Jupiter > > which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to make > > it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more income > and > > less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of income > and > > less loss, but it did not happen. > > > > 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it should... :- > > ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. > > > > 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter?>> My > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " > > > > ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected Mo/Mo > > and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon and > > Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong > according > > to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are > transited > > by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no > conception > > occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not > predict > > child birth during this period? If not then could you give some > > hints why? > > > > Thanking you for your time > > --Manoshi > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer these > > > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87-88 > > (sat+jup > > > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), > 1997- > > 98 > > > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup > more > > > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > > > > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I > think > > I > > > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went > > bankrupt > > > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year > lease > > > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In 87- > 88, > > I > > > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock > > market. > > > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for > > giving > > > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work > ever > > > and if you did you may have done well too. > > > > > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 which > I > > > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to go to > > US. > > > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I did > > very > > > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined second > > job > > > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit this > job > > I > > > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting (independent) > > in > > > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did > > consulting > > > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation completely > and > > > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a > > mortgage > > > broker with not much success. > > > > > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for sometime? > Yes. > > I > > > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov 84 > and > > > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than > > marriage? > > > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you > > elaborate > > > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing I > can > > > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very happy > at > > > work and successful. And other very important thing is that I > had > > > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > > > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like a > > hobby > > > to me. > > > > > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something else > > in > > > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in 1976 > and > > > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went up > > all > > > the way to the top. > > > > > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? My > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails > that > > it > > > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so just > > want > > > to > > > > confirm some events. > > > > > > > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > > > navamsa, > > > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in 7th > > > house, > > > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary aspected > by > > > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests > > multiple > > > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is aspcting > > venus > > > in > > > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will not > > come > > > > out > > > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I > would > > > have > > > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now > tell > > > what > > > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be spoon > > > > feeding, > > > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will learn > > > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > > > relationships > > > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not present > > in > > > > this > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this will > > help > > > > ust > > > > > to learn. > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ashji, > > > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second marriage > or > > > > > affair ? > > > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for person > to > > get > > > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital > > affairs ? > > > > > > please guide. > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would wait > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still overlooking > > > > > something > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa closely > > > please. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa but > in > > > rasi > > > > i > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D and > > venus > > > > in > > > > > B > > > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and not > > > > acting > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of > > jupiter > > > on > > > > > venus > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i understood > that > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out in > > > public. > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn in > > rasi > > > > and > > > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola nakshatra.. > and > > > in > > > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in public > as > > > its > > > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter > > checks > > > > > venus > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then it > > means > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of venus. > I > > > > know > > > > > i > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for my > > > better > > > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both in > rasi > > > and > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and > > regards. > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am > > learner. > > > > > Your > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are aspected > by > > > > saturn > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra marital > > > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given yet, > i > > > may > > > > be > > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the barometer of > > > > > character > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive > Krushnaji > > > has > > > > > said > > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral > > character... > > > i > > > > > think > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter for > > male > > > > > (which > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet but > was > > > > > curious... > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > > > possibility.. > > > > > Ashji > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the beginning > > and > > > > > came > > > > > > > across > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > > > marriages. > > > > > In my > > > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am > > married > > > > > only > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always give > > > results > > > > or > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are > > conditions > > > > that > > > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, > 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the lession > > that > > > > are > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which gives > > > multiple > > > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving here > for > > > > your > > > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by > > Saturn, > > > > and > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is conjunct > > with > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points on > > 7th > > > > > house > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th > > house. > > > I > > > > > think > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus is > in > > > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More > > possibility > > > of > > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then 33% > > that > > > of > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th are > > less > > > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 > points > > > in > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 sa+ju shows circumstances. The atmosphere will be favourable but we must remember that antardasa comes first. So if the antra is say so- called bad, and transit points of Sa+Ju are high, atmosphere will be favourable, so the native will be optimistic and will not suffer mentally as much as he could have. --Manoshi , " pkaneria " <pkaneria wrote: > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash (and Pratap): > > > > I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. > > > > 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do you > > mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good period. > > What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. > 1979- > > 80 was financially bad you mean. > > > > Pratap... 1972 - I need to clarify. I had good job and was making > progress. But I was very ambitious and was fighting to get promoted > as Manager. During this time I gave ultimatum and when they would > not give me the promotion, I left the company for like 2 or 3 weeks. > Then I got the call and they accepted my demand and I went back. > This is what I meant by struggle. Again 1979-80, I was doing very > well in job but the business investment went sour, although I never > ran out of money due to good cash flow from job. A couple more > events for verification. I bought my first house on June 29, 1974. I > bought a bigger house on June 29, 1983 (plus or minus a couple of > days) where I still live. > > A side note. I was just looking at ranking of planets by h1, h2 etc. > I find that Sa is always at the top with as much as 50+ points. I > looked at the chart of one of my friend who is far more successful > and none of his points are over 30. This guy is a world renowned > architect, owns his own business and is a multi millionaire. What is > holding my Sa up? :; If I have to wait for Sa mahadasa, it will be > too late. Somehow I have always felt that my best time is yet to > come! On this coming oct 23, my Sa+Ju transit points are moving upto > 12 from 7. May be a lottery? > > > > > > > ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the reasons > in > > my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont ignore > from > > where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I see, > > Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house > lord, > > from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 points > > which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th > house > > and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that > Jupiter > > which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to make > > it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more income > and > > less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of income > and > > less loss, but it did not happen. > > > > 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it should... :- > > ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. > > > > 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter?>> My > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " > > > > ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected Mo/Mo > > and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon and > > Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong > according > > to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are > transited > > by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no > conception > > occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not > predict > > child birth during this period? If not then could you give some > > hints why? > > > > Thanking you for your time > > --Manoshi > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer these > > > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87-88 > > (sat+jup > > > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), > 1997- > > 98 > > > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup > more > > > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > > > > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I > think > > I > > > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went > > bankrupt > > > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year > lease > > > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In 87- > 88, > > I > > > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock > > market. > > > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for > > giving > > > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work > ever > > > and if you did you may have done well too. > > > > > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 which > I > > > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to go to > > US. > > > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I did > > very > > > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined second > > job > > > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit this > job > > I > > > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting (independent) > > in > > > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did > > consulting > > > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation completely > and > > > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a > > mortgage > > > broker with not much success. > > > > > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for sometime? > Yes. > > I > > > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov 84 > and > > > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than > > marriage? > > > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you > > elaborate > > > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing I > can > > > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very happy > at > > > work and successful. And other very important thing is that I > had > > > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > > > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like a > > hobby > > > to me. > > > > > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something else > > in > > > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in 1976 > and > > > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went up > > all > > > the way to the top. > > > > > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? My > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails > that > > it > > > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so just > > want > > > to > > > > confirm some events. > > > > > > > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > > > navamsa, > > > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in 7th > > > house, > > > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary aspected > by > > > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests > > multiple > > > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is aspcting > > venus > > > in > > > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will not > > come > > > > out > > > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I > would > > > have > > > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now > tell > > > what > > > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be spoon > > > > feeding, > > > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will learn > > > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > > > relationships > > > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not present > > in > > > > this > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this will > > help > > > > ust > > > > > to learn. > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ashji, > > > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second marriage > or > > > > > affair ? > > > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for person > to > > get > > > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital > > affairs ? > > > > > > please guide. > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would wait > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still overlooking > > > > > something > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa closely > > > please. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa but > in > > > rasi > > > > i > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D and > > venus > > > > in > > > > > B > > > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and not > > > > acting > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of > > jupiter > > > on > > > > > venus > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i understood > that > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out in > > > public. > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn in > > rasi > > > > and > > > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola nakshatra.. > and > > > in > > > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in public > as > > > its > > > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter > > checks > > > > > venus > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then it > > means > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of venus. > I > > > > know > > > > > i > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for my > > > better > > > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both in > rasi > > > and > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and > > regards. > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am > > learner. > > > > > Your > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are aspected > by > > > > saturn > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra marital > > > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given yet, > i > > > may > > > > be > > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the barometer of > > > > > character > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive > Krushnaji > > > has > > > > > said > > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral > > character... > > > i > > > > > think > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter for > > male > > > > > (which > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet but > was > > > > > curious... > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > > > possibility.. > > > > > Ashji > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the beginning > > and > > > > > came > > > > > > > across > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > > > marriages. > > > > > In my > > > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am > > married > > > > > only > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always give > > > results > > > > or > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are > > conditions > > > > that > > > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, > 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the lession > > that > > > > are > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which gives > > > multiple > > > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving here > for > > > > your > > > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by > > Saturn, > > > > and > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is conjunct > > with > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points on > > 7th > > > > > house > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th > > house. > > > I > > > > > think > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus is > in > > > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More > > possibility > > > of > > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then 33% > > that > > > of > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th are > > less > > > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 > points > > > in > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa wrote: > Dear Manoshi/Ashji, That's good point. I think same can be said when daily points are low ? i.e. daily points are low say like 180 and ju+sa are giving points like 10 or more what can be said ? it wont be as bad as it seems ? thanks/regards harjeet > sa+ju shows circumstances. The atmosphere will be favourable but we > must remember that antardasa comes first. So if the antra is say so- > called bad, and transit points of Sa+Ju are high, atmosphere will be > favourable, so the native will be optimistic and will not suffer > mentally as much as he could have. > > --Manoshi > > > , " pkaneria " > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash (and Pratap): > > > > > > I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. > > > > > > 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do > you > > > mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good > period. > > > What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. > > 1979- > > > 80 was financially bad you mean. > > > > > > > > Pratap... 1972 - I need to clarify. I had good job and was making > > progress. But I was very ambitious and was fighting to get > promoted > > as Manager. During this time I gave ultimatum and when they would > > not give me the promotion, I left the company for like 2 or 3 > weeks. > > Then I got the call and they accepted my demand and I went back. > > This is what I meant by struggle. Again 1979-80, I was doing very > > well in job but the business investment went sour, although I > never > > ran out of money due to good cash flow from job. A couple more > > events for verification. I bought my first house on June 29, 1974. > I > > bought a bigger house on June 29, 1983 (plus or minus a couple of > > days) where I still live. > > > > A side note. I was just looking at ranking of planets by h1, h2 > etc. > > I find that Sa is always at the top with as much as 50+ points. I > > looked at the chart of one of my friend who is far more successful > > and none of his points are over 30. This guy is a world renowned > > architect, owns his own business and is a multi millionaire. What > is > > holding my Sa up? :; If I have to wait for Sa mahadasa, it will > be > > too late. Somehow I have always felt that my best time is yet to > > come! On this coming oct 23, my Sa+Ju transit points are moving > upto > > 12 from 7. May be a lottery? > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the > reasons > > in > > > my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont ignore > > from > > > where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I > see, > > > Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house > > lord, > > > from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 points > > > which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th > > house > > > and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that > > Jupiter > > > which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to > make > > > it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more income > > and > > > less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of income > > and > > > less loss, but it did not happen. > > > > > > 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it > should... :- > > > ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. > > > > > > 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter?>> > My > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " > > > > > > ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected > Mo/Mo > > > and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon and > > > Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong > > according > > > to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are > > transited > > > by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no > > conception > > > occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not > > predict > > > child birth during this period? If not then could you give some > > > hints why? > > > > > > Thanking you for your time > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer > these > > > > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87-88 > > > (sat+jup > > > > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), > > 1997- > > > 98 > > > > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup > > more > > > > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > > > > > > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I > > think > > > I > > > > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went > > > bankrupt > > > > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year > > lease > > > > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In 87- > > 88, > > > I > > > > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock > > > market. > > > > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > > > > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for > > > giving > > > > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work > > ever > > > > and if you did you may have done well too. > > > > > > > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 > which > > I > > > > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to go > to > > > US. > > > > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I > did > > > very > > > > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined > second > > > job > > > > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit this > > job > > > I > > > > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting > (independent) > > > in > > > > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did > > > consulting > > > > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation completely > > and > > > > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a > > > mortgage > > > > broker with not much success. > > > > > > > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for sometime? > > Yes. > > > I > > > > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov 84 > > and > > > > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > > > > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than > > > marriage? > > > > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > > > > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you > > > elaborate > > > > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing I > > can > > > > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very > happy > > at > > > > work and successful. And other very important thing is that I > > had > > > > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > > > > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like a > > > hobby > > > > to me. > > > > > > > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something > else > > > in > > > > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in 1976 > > and > > > > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went > up > > > all > > > > the way to the top. > > > > > > > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? > My > > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > > > > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails > > that > > > it > > > > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so just > > > want > > > > to > > > > > confirm some events. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > > > > navamsa, > > > > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in > 7th > > > > house, > > > > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary > aspected > > by > > > > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests > > > multiple > > > > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is aspcting > > > venus > > > > in > > > > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will > not > > > come > > > > > out > > > > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I > > would > > > > have > > > > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now > > tell > > > > what > > > > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be spoon > > > > > feeding, > > > > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will > learn > > > > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > > > > relationships > > > > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not > present > > > in > > > > > this > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this > will > > > help > > > > > ust > > > > > > to learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ashji, > > > > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second marriage > > or > > > > > > affair ? > > > > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for person > > to > > > get > > > > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital > > > affairs ? > > > > > > > please guide. > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would > wait > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still > overlooking > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa > closely > > > > please. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa but > > in > > > > rasi > > > > > i > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D and > > > venus > > > > > in > > > > > > B > > > > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and > not > > > > > acting > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of > > > jupiter > > > > on > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i understood > > that > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out in > > > > public. > > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn > in > > > rasi > > > > > and > > > > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola nakshatra.. > > and > > > > in > > > > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in public > > as > > > > its > > > > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter > > > checks > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then it > > > means > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of > venus. > > I > > > > > know > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for my > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both in > > rasi > > > > and > > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and > > > regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am > > > learner. > > > > > > Your > > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are aspected > > by > > > > > saturn > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra marital > > > > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given > yet, > > i > > > > may > > > > > be > > > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the barometer > of > > > > > > character > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive > > Krushnaji > > > > has > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral > > > character... > > > > i > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter > for > > > male > > > > > > (which > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet but > > was > > > > > > curious... > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > > > > possibility.. > > > > > > Ashji > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the > beginning > > > and > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > across > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > > > > marriages. > > > > > > In my > > > > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am > > > married > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always give > > > > results > > > > > or > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are > > > conditions > > > > > that > > > > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, > > 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the lession > > > that > > > > > are > > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which gives > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving here > > for > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by > > > Saturn, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is > conjunct > > > with > > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points > on > > > 7th > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th > > > house. > > > > I > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus > is > > in > > > > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More > > > possibility > > > > of > > > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then 33% > > > that > > > > of > > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th > are > > > less > > > > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 > > points > > > > in > > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Dear Harjeet, In that case, even though there is not much support from planets, even though there is pain, the native will have a good mental outlook and will have courage to withstand it. That is what I understand. Also, if both sa+ju are low and daily points are also low then there are pressuers and the native may feel overburdened by the pressures etc. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > Dear Manoshi/Ashji, > That's good point. > I think same can be said when daily points are low ? > i.e. daily points are low say like 180 and ju+sa are giving points > like 10 or more what can be said ? > it wont be as bad as it seems ? > thanks/regards > harjeet > > > sa+ju shows circumstances. The atmosphere will be favourable but we > > must remember that antardasa comes first. So if the antra is say so- > > called bad, and transit points of Sa+Ju are high, atmosphere will be > > favourable, so the native will be optimistic and will not suffer > > mentally as much as he could have. > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash (and Pratap): > > > > > > > > I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. > > > > > > > > 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do > > you > > > > mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good > > period. > > > > What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. > > > 1979- > > > > 80 was financially bad you mean. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap... 1972 - I need to clarify. I had good job and was making > > > progress. But I was very ambitious and was fighting to get > > promoted > > > as Manager. During this time I gave ultimatum and when they would > > > not give me the promotion, I left the company for like 2 or 3 > > weeks. > > > Then I got the call and they accepted my demand and I went back. > > > This is what I meant by struggle. Again 1979-80, I was doing very > > > well in job but the business investment went sour, although I > > never > > > ran out of money due to good cash flow from job. A couple more > > > events for verification. I bought my first house on June 29, 1974. > > I > > > bought a bigger house on June 29, 1983 (plus or minus a couple of > > > days) where I still live. > > > > > > A side note. I was just looking at ranking of planets by h1, h2 > > etc. > > > I find that Sa is always at the top with as much as 50+ points. I > > > looked at the chart of one of my friend who is far more successful > > > and none of his points are over 30. This guy is a world renowned > > > architect, owns his own business and is a multi millionaire. What > > is > > > holding my Sa up? :; If I have to wait for Sa mahadasa, it will > > be > > > too late. Somehow I have always felt that my best time is yet to > > > come! On this coming oct 23, my Sa+Ju transit points are moving > > upto > > > 12 from 7. May be a lottery? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the > > reasons > > > in > > > > my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont ignore > > > from > > > > where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I > > see, > > > > Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house > > > lord, > > > > from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 points > > > > which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th > > > house > > > > and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that > > > Jupiter > > > > which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to > > make > > > > it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more income > > > and > > > > less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of income > > > and > > > > less loss, but it did not happen. > > > > > > > > 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it > > should... :- > > > > ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. > > > > > > > > 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter?>> > > My > > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " > > > > > > > > ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected > > Mo/Mo > > > > and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon and > > > > Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong > > > according > > > > to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are > > > transited > > > > by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no > > > conception > > > > occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not > > > predict > > > > child birth during this period? If not then could you give some > > > > hints why? > > > > > > > > Thanking you for your time > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer > > these > > > > > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87-88 > > > > (sat+jup > > > > > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), > > > 1997- > > > > 98 > > > > > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup > > > more > > > > > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > > > > > > > > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I > > > think > > > > I > > > > > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went > > > > bankrupt > > > > > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year > > > lease > > > > > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In 87- > > > 88, > > > > I > > > > > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock > > > > market. > > > > > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for > > > > giving > > > > > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work > > > ever > > > > > and if you did you may have done well too. > > > > > > > > > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 > > which > > > I > > > > > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to go > > to > > > > US. > > > > > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I > > did > > > > very > > > > > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined > > second > > > > job > > > > > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit this > > > job > > > > I > > > > > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting > > (independent) > > > > in > > > > > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did > > > > consulting > > > > > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation completely > > > and > > > > > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a > > > > mortgage > > > > > broker with not much success. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for sometime? > > > Yes. > > > > I > > > > > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov 84 > > > and > > > > > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than > > > > marriage? > > > > > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you > > > > elaborate > > > > > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing I > > > can > > > > > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very > > happy > > > at > > > > > work and successful. And other very important thing is that I > > > had > > > > > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > > > > > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like a > > > > hobby > > > > > to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something > > else > > > > in > > > > > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in 1976 > > > and > > > > > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went > > up > > > > all > > > > > the way to the top. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? > > My > > > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails > > > that > > > > it > > > > > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so just > > > > want > > > > > to > > > > > > confirm some events. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > > > > > navamsa, > > > > > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in > > 7th > > > > > house, > > > > > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary > > aspected > > > by > > > > > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests > > > > multiple > > > > > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is aspcting > > > > venus > > > > > in > > > > > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will > > not > > > > come > > > > > > out > > > > > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I > > > would > > > > > have > > > > > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now > > > tell > > > > > what > > > > > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be spoon > > > > > > feeding, > > > > > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will > > learn > > > > > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > > > > > relationships > > > > > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not > > present > > > > in > > > > > > this > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this > > will > > > > help > > > > > > ust > > > > > > > to learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ashji, > > > > > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second marriage > > > or > > > > > > > affair ? > > > > > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for person > > > to > > > > get > > > > > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital > > > > affairs ? > > > > > > > > please guide. > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would > > wait > > > > for > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still > > overlooking > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa > > closely > > > > > please. > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa but > > > in > > > > > rasi > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D and > > > > venus > > > > > > in > > > > > > > B > > > > > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and > > not > > > > > > acting > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of > > > > jupiter > > > > > on > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i understood > > > that > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out in > > > > > public. > > > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn > > in > > > > rasi > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola nakshatra.. > > > and > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in public > > > as > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter > > > > checks > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then it > > > > means > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of > > venus. > > > I > > > > > > know > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for my > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both in > > > rasi > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and > > > > regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am > > > > learner. > > > > > > > Your > > > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are aspected > > > by > > > > > > saturn > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra marital > > > > > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given > > yet, > > > i > > > > > may > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the barometer > > of > > > > > > > character > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive > > > Krushnaji > > > > > has > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral > > > > character... > > > > > i > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter > > for > > > > male > > > > > > > (which > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet but > > > was > > > > > > > curious... > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > > > > > possibility.. > > > > > > > Ashji > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the > > beginning > > > > and > > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > > across > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > In my > > > > > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am > > > > married > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always give > > > > > results > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are > > > > conditions > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, > > > 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the lession > > > > that > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which gives > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving here > > > for > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by > > > > Saturn, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is > > conjunct > > > > with > > > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points > > on > > > > 7th > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th > > > > house. > > > > > I > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus > > is > > > in > > > > > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More > > > > possibility > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then 33% > > > > that > > > > > of > > > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th > > are > > > > less > > > > > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 > > > points > > > > > in > > > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Thanks very much Manu, As in archives Jupiter and Saturn taking lordship of 9,10,11,12 houses and being karak of 2nd,3rd,4th and 5th houses are very prominent planets. Thanks/Regards Harjeet , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > > In that case, even though there is not much support from planets, even > though there is pain, the native will have a good mental outlook and > will have courage to withstand it. That is what I understand. Also, if > both sa+ju are low and daily points are also low then there are > pressuers and the native may feel overburdened by the pressures etc. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Manoshi/Ashji, > > That's good point. > > I think same can be said when daily points are low ? > > i.e. daily points are low say like 180 and ju+sa are giving points > > like 10 or more what can be said ? > > it wont be as bad as it seems ? > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > > sa+ju shows circumstances. The atmosphere will be favourable but we > > > must remember that antardasa comes first. So if the antra is say so- > > > called bad, and transit points of Sa+Ju are high, atmosphere will be > > > favourable, so the native will be optimistic and will not suffer > > > mentally as much as he could have. > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash (and Pratap): > > > > > > > > > > I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. > > > > > > > > > > 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do > > > you > > > > > mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good > > > period. > > > > > What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. > > > > 1979- > > > > > 80 was financially bad you mean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap... 1972 - I need to clarify. I had good job and was making > > > > progress. But I was very ambitious and was fighting to get > > > promoted > > > > as Manager. During this time I gave ultimatum and when they would > > > > not give me the promotion, I left the company for like 2 or 3 > > > weeks. > > > > Then I got the call and they accepted my demand and I went back. > > > > This is what I meant by struggle. Again 1979-80, I was doing very > > > > well in job but the business investment went sour, although I > > > never > > > > ran out of money due to good cash flow from job. A couple more > > > > events for verification. I bought my first house on June 29, 1974. > > > I > > > > bought a bigger house on June 29, 1983 (plus or minus a couple of > > > > days) where I still live. > > > > > > > > A side note. I was just looking at ranking of planets by h1, h2 > > > etc. > > > > I find that Sa is always at the top with as much as 50+ points. I > > > > looked at the chart of one of my friend who is far more successful > > > > and none of his points are over 30. This guy is a world renowned > > > > architect, owns his own business and is a multi millionaire. What > > > is > > > > holding my Sa up? :; If I have to wait for Sa mahadasa, it will > > > be > > > > too late. Somehow I have always felt that my best time is yet to > > > > come! On this coming oct 23, my Sa+Ju transit points are moving > > > upto > > > > 12 from 7. May be a lottery? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the > > > reasons > > > > in > > > > > my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont ignore > > > > from > > > > > where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I > > > see, > > > > > Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house > > > > lord, > > > > > from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 points > > > > > which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th > > > > house > > > > > and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that > > > > Jupiter > > > > > which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to > > > make > > > > > it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more income > > > > and > > > > > less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of income > > > > and > > > > > less loss, but it did not happen. > > > > > > > > > > 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it > > > should... :- > > > > > ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. > > > > > > > > > > 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter?>> > > > My > > > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " > > > > > > > > > > ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected > > > Mo/Mo > > > > > and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon and > > > > > Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong > > > > according > > > > > to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are > > > > transited > > > > > by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no > > > > conception > > > > > occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not > > > > predict > > > > > child birth during this period? If not then could you give some > > > > > hints why? > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you for your time > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer > > > these > > > > > > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87-88 > > > > > (sat+jup > > > > > > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), > > > > 1997- > > > > > 98 > > > > > > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup > > > > more > > > > > > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > > > > > > > > > > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I > > > > think > > > > > I > > > > > > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went > > > > > bankrupt > > > > > > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year > > > > lease > > > > > > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In 87- > > > > 88, > > > > > I > > > > > > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock > > > > > market. > > > > > > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for > > > > > giving > > > > > > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work > > > > ever > > > > > > and if you did you may have done well too. > > > > > > > > > > > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 > > > which > > > > I > > > > > > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to go > > > to > > > > > US. > > > > > > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I > > > did > > > > > very > > > > > > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined > > > second > > > > > job > > > > > > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit this > > > > job > > > > > I > > > > > > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting > > > (independent) > > > > > in > > > > > > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did > > > > > consulting > > > > > > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation completely > > > > and > > > > > > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a > > > > > mortgage > > > > > > broker with not much success. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for sometime? > > > > Yes. > > > > > I > > > > > > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov 84 > > > > and > > > > > > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than > > > > > marriage? > > > > > > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you > > > > > elaborate > > > > > > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing I > > > > can > > > > > > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very > > > happy > > > > at > > > > > > work and successful. And other very important thing is that I > > > > had > > > > > > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > > > > > > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like a > > > > > hobby > > > > > > to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something > > > else > > > > > in > > > > > > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in 1976 > > > > and > > > > > > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went > > > up > > > > > all > > > > > > the way to the top. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? > > > My > > > > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails > > > > that > > > > > it > > > > > > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so just > > > > > want > > > > > > to > > > > > > > confirm some events. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > > > > > > navamsa, > > > > > > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in > > > 7th > > > > > > house, > > > > > > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary > > > aspected > > > > by > > > > > > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is aspcting > > > > > venus > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will > > > not > > > > > come > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I > > > > would > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now > > > > tell > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be spoon > > > > > > > feeding, > > > > > > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will > > > learn > > > > > > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > > > > > > relationships > > > > > > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not > > > present > > > > > in > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this > > > will > > > > > help > > > > > > > ust > > > > > > > > to learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ashji, > > > > > > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second marriage > > > > or > > > > > > > > affair ? > > > > > > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for person > > > > to > > > > > get > > > > > > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > > > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital > > > > > affairs ? > > > > > > > > > please guide. > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would > > > wait > > > > > for > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still > > > overlooking > > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa > > > closely > > > > > > please. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa but > > > > in > > > > > > rasi > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D and > > > > > venus > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > B > > > > > > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and > > > not > > > > > > > acting > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i understood > > > > that > > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out in > > > > > > public. > > > > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn > > > in > > > > > rasi > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola nakshatra.. > > > > and > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in public > > > > as > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter > > > > > checks > > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then it > > > > > means > > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of > > > venus. > > > > I > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for my > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both in > > > > rasi > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and > > > > > regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am > > > > > learner. > > > > > > > > Your > > > > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are aspected > > > > by > > > > > > > saturn > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra marital > > > > > > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given > > > yet, > > > > i > > > > > > may > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the barometer > > > of > > > > > > > > character > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral > > > > > character... > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter > > > for > > > > > male > > > > > > > > (which > > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet but > > > > was > > > > > > > > curious... > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > > > > > > possibility.. > > > > > > > > Ashji > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the > > > beginning > > > > > and > > > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > > > across > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > In my > > > > > > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am > > > > > married > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always give > > > > > > results > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are > > > > > conditions > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, > > > > 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the lession > > > > > that > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which gives > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving here > > > > for > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by > > > > > Saturn, > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is > > > conjunct > > > > > with > > > > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points > > > on > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th > > > > > house. > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus > > > is > > > > in > > > > > > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More > > > > > possibility > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then 33% > > > > > that > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th > > > are > > > > > less > > > > > > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 > > > > points > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dear Pratap, You might refer to the following mail to get further insight into KAS. /message/3294 Check out this gentlemans WS points. Mostly all points are high. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " pkaneria " <pkaneria wrote: > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash (and Pratap): > > > > I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. > > > > 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do you > > mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good period. > > What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. > 1979- > > 80 was financially bad you mean. > > > > Pratap... 1972 - I need to clarify. I had good job and was making > progress. But I was very ambitious and was fighting to get promoted > as Manager. During this time I gave ultimatum and when they would > not give me the promotion, I left the company for like 2 or 3 weeks. > Then I got the call and they accepted my demand and I went back. > This is what I meant by struggle. Again 1979-80, I was doing very > well in job but the business investment went sour, although I never > ran out of money due to good cash flow from job. A couple more > events for verification. I bought my first house on June 29, 1974. I > bought a bigger house on June 29, 1983 (plus or minus a couple of > days) where I still live. > > A side note. I was just looking at ranking of planets by h1, h2 etc. > I find that Sa is always at the top with as much as 50+ points. I > looked at the chart of one of my friend who is far more successful > and none of his points are over 30. This guy is a world renowned > architect, owns his own business and is a multi millionaire. What is > holding my Sa up? :; If I have to wait for Sa mahadasa, it will be > too late. Somehow I have always felt that my best time is yet to > come! On this coming oct 23, my Sa+Ju transit points are moving upto > 12 from 7. May be a lottery? > > > > > > > ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the reasons > in > > my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont ignore > from > > where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I see, > > Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house > lord, > > from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 points > > which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th > house > > and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that > Jupiter > > which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to make > > it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more income > and > > less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of income > and > > less loss, but it did not happen. > > > > 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it should... :- > > ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. > > > > 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter?>> My > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " > > > > ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected Mo/Mo > > and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon and > > Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong > according > > to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are > transited > > by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no > conception > > occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not > predict > > child birth during this period? If not then could you give some > > hints why? > > > > Thanking you for your time > > --Manoshi > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer these > > > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87-88 > > (sat+jup > > > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), > 1997- > > 98 > > > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup > more > > > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > > > > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I > think > > I > > > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went > > bankrupt > > > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year > lease > > > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In 87- > 88, > > I > > > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock > > market. > > > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for > > giving > > > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work > ever > > > and if you did you may have done well too. > > > > > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 which > I > > > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to go to > > US. > > > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I did > > very > > > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined second > > job > > > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit this > job > > I > > > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting (independent) > > in > > > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did > > consulting > > > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation completely > and > > > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a > > mortgage > > > broker with not much success. > > > > > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for sometime? > Yes. > > I > > > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov 84 > and > > > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than > > marriage? > > > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you > > elaborate > > > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing I > can > > > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very happy > at > > > work and successful. And other very important thing is that I > had > > > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > > > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like a > > hobby > > > to me. > > > > > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something else > > in > > > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in 1976 > and > > > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went up > > all > > > the way to the top. > > > > > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? My > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails > that > > it > > > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so just > > want > > > to > > > > confirm some events. > > > > > > > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > > > navamsa, > > > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in 7th > > > house, > > > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary aspected > by > > > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests > > multiple > > > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is aspcting > > venus > > > in > > > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will not > > come > > > > out > > > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I > would > > > have > > > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now > tell > > > what > > > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be spoon > > > > feeding, > > > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will learn > > > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > > > relationships > > > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not present > > in > > > > this > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this will > > help > > > > ust > > > > > to learn. > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ashji, > > > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second marriage > or > > > > > affair ? > > > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for person > to > > get > > > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital > > affairs ? > > > > > > please guide. > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would wait > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still overlooking > > > > > something > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa closely > > > please. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa but > in > > > rasi > > > > i > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D and > > venus > > > > in > > > > > B > > > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and not > > > > acting > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of > > jupiter > > > on > > > > > venus > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i understood > that > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out in > > > public. > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn in > > rasi > > > > and > > > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola nakshatra.. > and > > > in > > > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in public > as > > > its > > > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter > > checks > > > > > venus > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then it > > means > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of venus. > I > > > > know > > > > > i > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for my > > > better > > > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both in > rasi > > > and > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and > > regards. > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am > > learner. > > > > > Your > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are aspected > by > > > > saturn > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra marital > > > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given yet, > i > > > may > > > > be > > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the barometer of > > > > > character > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive > Krushnaji > > > has > > > > > said > > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral > > character... > > > i > > > > > think > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter for > > male > > > > > (which > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet but > was > > > > > curious... > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > > > possibility.. > > > > > Ashji > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the beginning > > and > > > > > came > > > > > > > across > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > > > marriages. > > > > > In my > > > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am > > married > > > > > only > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always give > > > results > > > > or > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are > > conditions > > > > that > > > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, > 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the lession > > that > > > > are > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which gives > > > multiple > > > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving here > for > > > > your > > > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by > > Saturn, > > > > and > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is conjunct > > with > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points on > > 7th > > > > > house > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th > > house. > > > I > > > > > think > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus is > in > > > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More > > possibility > > > of > > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then 33% > > that > > > of > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th are > > less > > > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 > points > > > in > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dear Ash, Thanks. Read the post and thinking loud about 12th lord dictum. In my rasi chart, no planet is lord of 12th or 2nd house. In navamsa chart though, Sa, placed in 2nd house, is lord of 12th from it. Also Ju, placed in 12th house, is lord of 12th from it. So per navamsa, results of houses 1,2,11 and 12 are spoiled. Is this correct deduction? One question. In KAS, Rahu and Ketu are considered lords of which rasi? Regards, Pratap , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Pratap, > You might refer to the following mail to get further insight into > KAS. > > /message/3294 > > Check out this gentlemans WS points. Mostly all points are high. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " pkaneria " > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash (and Pratap): > > > > > > I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. > > > > > > 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do > you > > > mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good > period. > > > What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. > > 1979- > > > 80 was financially bad you mean. > > > > > > > > Pratap... 1972 - I need to clarify. I had good job and was making > > progress. But I was very ambitious and was fighting to get > promoted > > as Manager. During this time I gave ultimatum and when they would > > not give me the promotion, I left the company for like 2 or 3 > weeks. > > Then I got the call and they accepted my demand and I went back. > > This is what I meant by struggle. Again 1979-80, I was doing very > > well in job but the business investment went sour, although I > never > > ran out of money due to good cash flow from job. A couple more > > events for verification. I bought my first house on June 29, 1974. > I > > bought a bigger house on June 29, 1983 (plus or minus a couple of > > days) where I still live. > > > > A side note. I was just looking at ranking of planets by h1, h2 > etc. > > I find that Sa is always at the top with as much as 50+ points. I > > looked at the chart of one of my friend who is far more successful > > and none of his points are over 30. This guy is a world renowned > > architect, owns his own business and is a multi millionaire. What > is > > holding my Sa up? :; If I have to wait for Sa mahadasa, it will > be > > too late. Somehow I have always felt that my best time is yet to > > come! On this coming oct 23, my Sa+Ju transit points are moving > upto > > 12 from 7. May be a lottery? > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the > reasons > > in > > > my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont ignore > > from > > > where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I > see, > > > Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house > > lord, > > > from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 points > > > which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th > > house > > > and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that > > Jupiter > > > which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to > make > > > it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more income > > and > > > less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of income > > and > > > less loss, but it did not happen. > > > > > > 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it > should... :- > > > ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. > > > > > > 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter?>> > My > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " > > > > > > ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected > Mo/Mo > > > and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon and > > > Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong > > according > > > to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are > > transited > > > by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no > > conception > > > occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not > > predict > > > child birth during this period? If not then could you give some > > > hints why? > > > > > > Thanking you for your time > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer > these > > > > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87-88 > > > (sat+jup > > > > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), > > 1997- > > > 98 > > > > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup > > more > > > > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > > > > > > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I > > think > > > I > > > > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went > > > bankrupt > > > > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year > > lease > > > > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In 87- > > 88, > > > I > > > > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock > > > market. > > > > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > > > > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for > > > giving > > > > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work > > ever > > > > and if you did you may have done well too. > > > > > > > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 > which > > I > > > > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to go > to > > > US. > > > > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I > did > > > very > > > > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined > second > > > job > > > > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit this > > job > > > I > > > > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting > (independent) > > > in > > > > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did > > > consulting > > > > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation completely > > and > > > > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a > > > mortgage > > > > broker with not much success. > > > > > > > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for sometime? > > Yes. > > > I > > > > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov 84 > > and > > > > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > > > > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than > > > marriage? > > > > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > > > > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you > > > elaborate > > > > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing I > > can > > > > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very > happy > > at > > > > work and successful. And other very important thing is that I > > had > > > > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > > > > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like a > > > hobby > > > > to me. > > > > > > > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something > else > > > in > > > > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in 1976 > > and > > > > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went > up > > > all > > > > the way to the top. > > > > > > > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? > My > > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > > > > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails > > that > > > it > > > > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so just > > > want > > > > to > > > > > confirm some events. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > > > > navamsa, > > > > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in > 7th > > > > house, > > > > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary > aspected > > by > > > > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests > > > multiple > > > > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is aspcting > > > venus > > > > in > > > > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will > not > > > come > > > > > out > > > > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I > > would > > > > have > > > > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now > > tell > > > > what > > > > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be spoon > > > > > feeding, > > > > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will > learn > > > > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > > > > relationships > > > > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not > present > > > in > > > > > this > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this > will > > > help > > > > > ust > > > > > > to learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ashji, > > > > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second marriage > > or > > > > > > affair ? > > > > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for person > > to > > > get > > > > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital > > > affairs ? > > > > > > > please guide. > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would > wait > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still > overlooking > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa > closely > > > > please. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa but > > in > > > > rasi > > > > > i > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D and > > > venus > > > > > in > > > > > > B > > > > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and > not > > > > > acting > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of > > > jupiter > > > > on > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i understood > > that > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out in > > > > public. > > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn > in > > > rasi > > > > > and > > > > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola nakshatra.. > > and > > > > in > > > > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in public > > as > > > > its > > > > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter > > > checks > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then it > > > means > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of > venus. > > I > > > > > know > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for my > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both in > > rasi > > > > and > > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and > > > regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am > > > learner. > > > > > > Your > > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are aspected > > by > > > > > saturn > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra marital > > > > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given > yet, > > i > > > > may > > > > > be > > > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the barometer > of > > > > > > character > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive > > Krushnaji > > > > has > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral > > > character... > > > > i > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter > for > > > male > > > > > > (which > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet but > > was > > > > > > curious... > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > > > > possibility.. > > > > > > Ashji > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the > beginning > > > and > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > across > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > > > > marriages. > > > > > > In my > > > > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am > > > married > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always give > > > > results > > > > > or > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are > > > conditions > > > > > that > > > > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, > > 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the lession > > > that > > > > > are > > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which gives > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving here > > for > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by > > > Saturn, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is > conjunct > > > with > > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points > on > > > 7th > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th > > > house. > > > > I > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus > is > > in > > > > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More > > > possibility > > > > of > > > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then 33% > > > that > > > > of > > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th > are > > > less > > > > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 > > points > > > > in > > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dear Jagdish, Continue reading the archives and things will get clear. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Respected Sir Ash > > The biggest problem which i always face using any method of prediction is to understand and give the ranking to different combination. > > On one hand there is " Blessing " . On other hand there is combination where lord of house B is situated in 12th house from B. > > So if both things are working in a horoscope then which one is going to dominate ? > > Please explain a bit. > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > You might refer to the following mail to get further insight into > KAS. > > /message/3294 > > Check out this gentlemans WS points. Mostly all points are high. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " pkaneria " > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash (and Pratap): > > > > > > I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. > > > > > > 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do > you > > > mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good > period. > > > What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. > > 1979- > > > 80 was financially bad you mean. > > > > > > > > Pratap... 1972 - I need to clarify. I had good job and was making > > progress. But I was very ambitious and was fighting to get > promoted > > as Manager. During this time I gave ultimatum and when they would > > not give me the promotion, I left the company for like 2 or 3 > weeks. > > Then I got the call and they accepted my demand and I went back. > > This is what I meant by struggle. Again 1979-80, I was doing very > > well in job but the business investment went sour, although I > never > > ran out of money due to good cash flow from job. A couple more > > events for verification. I bought my first house on June 29, 1974. > I > > bought a bigger house on June 29, 1983 (plus or minus a couple of > > days) where I still live. > > > > A side note. I was just looking at ranking of planets by h1, h2 > etc. > > I find that Sa is always at the top with as much as 50+ points. I > > looked at the chart of one of my friend who is far more successful > > and none of his points are over 30. This guy is a world renowned > > architect, owns his own business and is a multi millionaire. What > is > > holding my Sa up? :; If I have to wait for Sa mahadasa, it will > be > > too late. Somehow I have always felt that my best time is yet to > > come! On this coming oct 23, my Sa+Ju transit points are moving > upto > > 12 from 7. May be a lottery? > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the > reasons > > in > > > my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont ignore > > from > > > where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I > see, > > > Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house > > lord, > > > from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 points > > > which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th > > house > > > and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that > > Jupiter > > > which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to > make > > > it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more income > > and > > > less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of income > > and > > > less loss, but it did not happen. > > > > > > 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it > should... :- > > > ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. > > > > > > 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter?>> > My > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " > > > > > > ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected > Mo/Mo > > > and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon and > > > Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong > > according > > > to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are > > transited > > > by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no > > conception > > > occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not > > predict > > > child birth during this period? If not then could you give some > > > hints why? > > > > > > Thanking you for your time > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer > these > > > > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87-88 > > > (sat+jup > > > > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), > > 1997- > > > 98 > > > > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup > > more > > > > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > > > > > > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I > > think > > > I > > > > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went > > > bankrupt > > > > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year > > lease > > > > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In 87- > > 88, > > > I > > > > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock > > > market. > > > > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > > > > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for > > > giving > > > > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work > > ever > > > > and if you did you may have done well too. > > > > > > > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 > which > > I > > > > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to go > to > > > US. > > > > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I > did > > > very > > > > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined > second > > > job > > > > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit this > > job > > > I > > > > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting > (independent) > > > in > > > > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did > > > consulting > > > > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation completely > > and > > > > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a > > > mortgage > > > > broker with not much success. > > > > > > > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for sometime? > > Yes. > > > I > > > > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov 84 > > and > > > > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > > > > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than > > > marriage? > > > > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > > > > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you > > > elaborate > > > > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing I > > can > > > > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very > happy > > at > > > > work and successful. And other very important thing is that I > > had > > > > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > > > > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like a > > > hobby > > > > to me. > > > > > > > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something > else > > > in > > > > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in 1976 > > and > > > > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went > up > > > all > > > > the way to the top. > > > > > > > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? > My > > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > > > > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails > > that > > > it > > > > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so just > > > want > > > > to > > > > > confirm some events. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > > > > navamsa, > > > > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in > 7th > > > > house, > > > > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary > aspected > > by > > > > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests > > > multiple > > > > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is aspcting > > > venus > > > > in > > > > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will > not > > > come > > > > > out > > > > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I > > would > > > > have > > > > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now > > tell > > > > what > > > > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be spoon > > > > > feeding, > > > > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will > learn > > > > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > > > > relationships > > > > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not > present > > > in > > > > > this > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this > will > > > help > > > > > ust > > > > > > to learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ashji, > > > > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second marriage > > or > > > > > > affair ? > > > > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for person > > to > > > get > > > > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital > > > affairs ? > > > > > > > please guide. > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would > wait > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still > overlooking > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa > closely > > > > please. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa but > > in > > > > rasi > > > > > i > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D and > > > venus > > > > > in > > > > > > B > > > > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and > not > > > > > acting > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of > > > jupiter > > > > on > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i understood > > that > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out in > > > > public. > > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn > in > > > rasi > > > > > and > > > > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola nakshatra.. > > and > > > > in > > > > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in public > > as > > > > its > > > > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter > > > checks > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then it > > > means > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of > venus. > > I > > > > > know > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for my > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both in > > rasi > > > > and > > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and > > > regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am > > > learner. > > > > > > Your > > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are aspected > > by > > > > > saturn > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra marital > > > > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given > yet, > > i > > > > may > > > > > be > > > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the barometer > of > > > > > > character > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive > > Krushnaji > > > > has > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral > > > character... > > > > i > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter > for > > > male > > > > > > (which > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet but > > was > > > > > > curious... > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > > > > possibility.. > > > > > > Ashji > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the > beginning > > > and > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > across > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > > > > marriages. > > > > > > In my > > > > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am > > > married > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always give > > > > results > > > > > or > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are > > > conditions > > > > > that > > > > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, > > 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the lession > > > that > > > > > are > > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which gives > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving here > > for > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by > > > Saturn, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is > conjunct > > > with > > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points > on > > > 7th > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th > > > house. > > > > I > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus > is > > in > > > > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More > > > possibility > > > > of > > > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then 33% > > > that > > > > of > > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th > are > > > less > > > > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 > > points > > > > in > > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dear Jagdish, I think if blessing is there in the chart then the person would do better in worst condition... he would be in deep waters but not drowning and would have something to hold upon. a)Lord of B in 12th from B or vice-versa reduces house B. b)when said about any planet in 12th house or lord of 12th in anyhouse increases the house... i think 11th and 1st are to be taken as exception... according to (a). More points in 10th compared to 11th means more hard-work and less money... i may be wrong but in most horoscopes i have seen 11th has 28 or more points while i observed 7th is the weakest... may be the distribution of points is with respect to lagna... from lagna 11th is uppachay and 7th is opposite .... may be i am wrong here.. As Ashji once pointed out in archives that where there is a bunch of planets the 11th house from there always has high points. So i personally feel 11th house having 21 points and difference is substantial. Thanks/Regards Harjeet , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Although i should not use other than KAS here but still i feel that i should explain the situation from Arudha Lagna. > > Lagna lord in the horoscope of the beggar falls in 12th house. So AL is in 11th house. Usually the income of a person is seen from 11th or 2nd house of Arudha lagna. > > This person has 2 planets in 2nd house from AL and 3 planets in 11th house from AL. > > How this person can be a beggar ? > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > You might refer to the following mail to get further insight into > KAS. > > /message/3294 > > Check out this gentlemans WS points. Mostly all points are high. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " pkaneria " > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash (and Pratap): > > > > > > I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. > > > > > > 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do > you > > > mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good > period. > > > What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. > > 1979- > > > 80 was financially bad you mean. > > > > > > > > Pratap... 1972 - I need to clarify. I had good job and was making > > progress. But I was very ambitious and was fighting to get > promoted > > as Manager. During this time I gave ultimatum and when they would > > not give me the promotion, I left the company for like 2 or 3 > weeks. > > Then I got the call and they accepted my demand and I went back. > > This is what I meant by struggle. Again 1979-80, I was doing very > > well in job but the business investment went sour, although I > never > > ran out of money due to good cash flow from job. A couple more > > events for verification. I bought my first house on June 29, 1974. > I > > bought a bigger house on June 29, 1983 (plus or minus a couple of > > days) where I still live. > > > > A side note. I was just looking at ranking of planets by h1, h2 > etc. > > I find that Sa is always at the top with as much as 50+ points. I > > looked at the chart of one of my friend who is far more successful > > and none of his points are over 30. This guy is a world renowned > > architect, owns his own business and is a multi millionaire. What > is > > holding my Sa up? :; If I have to wait for Sa mahadasa, it will > be > > too late. Somehow I have always felt that my best time is yet to > > come! On this coming oct 23, my Sa+Ju transit points are moving > upto > > 12 from 7. May be a lottery? > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the > reasons > > in > > > my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont ignore > > from > > > where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I > see, > > > Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house > > lord, > > > from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 points > > > which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th > > house > > > and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that > > Jupiter > > > which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to > make > > > it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more income > > and > > > less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of income > > and > > > less loss, but it did not happen. > > > > > > 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it > should... :- > > > ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. > > > > > > 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter?>> > My > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " > > > > > > ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected > Mo/Mo > > > and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon and > > > Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong > > according > > > to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are > > transited > > > by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no > > conception > > > occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not > > predict > > > child birth during this period? If not then could you give some > > > hints why? > > > > > > Thanking you for your time > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer > these > > > > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87-88 > > > (sat+jup > > > > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), > > 1997- > > > 98 > > > > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup > > more > > > > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > > > > > > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I > > think > > > I > > > > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went > > > bankrupt > > > > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year > > lease > > > > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In 87- > > 88, > > > I > > > > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock > > > market. > > > > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > > > > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for > > > giving > > > > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work > > ever > > > > and if you did you may have done well too. > > > > > > > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 > which > > I > > > > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to go > to > > > US. > > > > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I > did > > > very > > > > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined > second > > > job > > > > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit this > > job > > > I > > > > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting > (independent) > > > in > > > > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did > > > consulting > > > > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation completely > > and > > > > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a > > > mortgage > > > > broker with not much success. > > > > > > > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for sometime? > > Yes. > > > I > > > > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov 84 > > and > > > > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > > > > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than > > > marriage? > > > > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > > > > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you > > > elaborate > > > > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing I > > can > > > > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very > happy > > at > > > > work and successful. And other very important thing is that I > > had > > > > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > > > > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like a > > > hobby > > > > to me. > > > > > > > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something > else > > > in > > > > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in 1976 > > and > > > > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went > up > > > all > > > > the way to the top. > > > > > > > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? > My > > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > > > > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails > > that > > > it > > > > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so just > > > want > > > > to > > > > > confirm some events. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > > > > navamsa, > > > > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in > 7th > > > > house, > > > > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary > aspected > > by > > > > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests > > > multiple > > > > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is aspcting > > > venus > > > > in > > > > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will > not > > > come > > > > > out > > > > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I > > would > > > > have > > > > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now > > tell > > > > what > > > > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be spoon > > > > > feeding, > > > > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will > learn > > > > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > > > > relationships > > > > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not > present > > > in > > > > > this > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this > will > > > help > > > > > ust > > > > > > to learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ashji, > > > > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second marriage > > or > > > > > > affair ? > > > > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for person > > to > > > get > > > > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital > > > affairs ? > > > > > > > please guide. > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would > wait > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still > overlooking > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa > closely > > > > please. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa but > > in > > > > rasi > > > > > i > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D and > > > venus > > > > > in > > > > > > B > > > > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and > not > > > > > acting > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of > > > jupiter > > > > on > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i understood > > that > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out in > > > > public. > > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn > in > > > rasi > > > > > and > > > > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola nakshatra.. > > and > > > > in > > > > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in public > > as > > > > its > > > > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter > > > checks > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then it > > > means > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of > venus. > > I > > > > > know > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for my > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both in > > rasi > > > > and > > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and > > > regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am > > > learner. > > > > > > Your > > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are aspected > > by > > > > > saturn > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra marital > > > > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given > yet, > > i > > > > may > > > > > be > > > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the barometer > of > > > > > > character > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive > > Krushnaji > > > > has > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral > > > character... > > > > i > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter > for > > > male > > > > > > (which > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet but > > was > > > > > > curious... > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > > > > possibility.. > > > > > > Ashji > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the > beginning > > > and > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > across > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > > > > marriages. > > > > > > In my > > > > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am > > > married > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always give > > > > results > > > > > or > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are > > > conditions > > > > > that > > > > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, > > 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the lession > > > that > > > > > are > > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which gives > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving here > > for > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by > > > Saturn, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is > conjunct > > > with > > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points > on > > > 7th > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th > > > house. > > > > I > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus > is > > in > > > > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More > > > possibility > > > > of > > > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then 33% > > > that > > > > of > > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th > are > > > less > > > > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 > > points > > > > in > > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dear Jagdish, Please do not confuse members of this group who are here to learn KAS, by using other systems. If your understanding of a chart is not clear and using a technique that we do not use here, the query being posted here serves no meaning, except to confuse people. Krushnaji has given clear explanation and also that chart was taken to teach something specific. If you are not able to undrestand such things, using techniques not taught on the list, then u must study the system that u do not understand harder to see why such things happeneed, and not disturb the group. Thank you for your co-operation, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Although i should not use other than KAS here but still i feel that i should explain the situation from Arudha Lagna. > > Lagna lord in the horoscope of the beggar falls in 12th house. So AL is in 11th house. Usually the income of a person is seen from 11th or 2nd house of Arudha lagna. > > This person has 2 planets in 2nd house from AL and 3 planets in 11th house from AL. > > How this person can be a beggar ? > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > You might refer to the following mail to get further insight into > KAS. > > /message/3294 > > Check out this gentlemans WS points. Mostly all points are high. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " pkaneria " > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash (and Pratap): > > > > > > I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. > > > > > > 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do > you > > > mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good > period. > > > What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. > > 1979- > > > 80 was financially bad you mean. > > > > > > > > Pratap... 1972 - I need to clarify. I had good job and was making > > progress. But I was very ambitious and was fighting to get > promoted > > as Manager. During this time I gave ultimatum and when they would > > not give me the promotion, I left the company for like 2 or 3 > weeks. > > Then I got the call and they accepted my demand and I went back. > > This is what I meant by struggle. Again 1979-80, I was doing very > > well in job but the business investment went sour, although I > never > > ran out of money due to good cash flow from job. A couple more > > events for verification. I bought my first house on June 29, 1974. > I > > bought a bigger house on June 29, 1983 (plus or minus a couple of > > days) where I still live. > > > > A side note. I was just looking at ranking of planets by h1, h2 > etc. > > I find that Sa is always at the top with as much as 50+ points. I > > looked at the chart of one of my friend who is far more successful > > and none of his points are over 30. This guy is a world renowned > > architect, owns his own business and is a multi millionaire. What > is > > holding my Sa up? :; If I have to wait for Sa mahadasa, it will > be > > too late. Somehow I have always felt that my best time is yet to > > come! On this coming oct 23, my Sa+Ju transit points are moving > upto > > 12 from 7. May be a lottery? > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the > reasons > > in > > > my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont ignore > > from > > > where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I > see, > > > Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house > > lord, > > > from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 points > > > which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th > > house > > > and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that > > Jupiter > > > which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to > make > > > it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more income > > and > > > less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of income > > and > > > less loss, but it did not happen. > > > > > > 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it > should... :- > > > ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. > > > > > > 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter?>> > My > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " > > > > > > ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected > Mo/Mo > > > and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon and > > > Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong > > according > > > to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are > > transited > > > by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no > > conception > > > occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not > > predict > > > child birth during this period? If not then could you give some > > > hints why? > > > > > > Thanking you for your time > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer > these > > > > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87-88 > > > (sat+jup > > > > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), > > 1997- > > > 98 > > > > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup > > more > > > > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > > > > > > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I > > think > > > I > > > > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went > > > bankrupt > > > > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year > > lease > > > > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In 87- > > 88, > > > I > > > > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock > > > market. > > > > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > > > > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for > > > giving > > > > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work > > ever > > > > and if you did you may have done well too. > > > > > > > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 > which > > I > > > > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to go > to > > > US. > > > > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I > did > > > very > > > > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined > second > > > job > > > > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit this > > job > > > I > > > > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting > (independent) > > > in > > > > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did > > > consulting > > > > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation completely > > and > > > > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a > > > mortgage > > > > broker with not much success. > > > > > > > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for sometime? > > Yes. > > > I > > > > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov 84 > > and > > > > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > > > > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than > > > marriage? > > > > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > > > > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you > > > elaborate > > > > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing I > > can > > > > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very > happy > > at > > > > work and successful. And other very important thing is that I > > had > > > > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > > > > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like a > > > hobby > > > > to me. > > > > > > > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something > else > > > in > > > > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in 1976 > > and > > > > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went > up > > > all > > > > the way to the top. > > > > > > > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? > My > > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > > > > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails > > that > > > it > > > > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so just > > > want > > > > to > > > > > confirm some events. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > > > > navamsa, > > > > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in > 7th > > > > house, > > > > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary > aspected > > by > > > > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests > > > multiple > > > > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is aspcting > > > venus > > > > in > > > > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will > not > > > come > > > > > out > > > > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I > > would > > > > have > > > > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now > > tell > > > > what > > > > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be spoon > > > > > feeding, > > > > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will > learn > > > > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > > > > relationships > > > > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not > present > > > in > > > > > this > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this > will > > > help > > > > > ust > > > > > > to learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ashji, > > > > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second marriage > > or > > > > > > affair ? > > > > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for person > > to > > > get > > > > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital > > > affairs ? > > > > > > > please guide. > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would > wait > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still > overlooking > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa > closely > > > > please. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa but > > in > > > > rasi > > > > > i > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D and > > > venus > > > > > in > > > > > > B > > > > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and > not > > > > > acting > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of > > > jupiter > > > > on > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i understood > > that > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out in > > > > public. > > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn > in > > > rasi > > > > > and > > > > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola nakshatra.. > > and > > > > in > > > > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in public > > as > > > > its > > > > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter > > > checks > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then it > > > means > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of > venus. > > I > > > > > know > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for my > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both in > > rasi > > > > and > > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and > > > regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am > > > learner. > > > > > > Your > > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are aspected > > by > > > > > saturn > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra marital > > > > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given > yet, > > i > > > > may > > > > > be > > > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the barometer > of > > > > > > character > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive > > Krushnaji > > > > has > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral > > > character... > > > > i > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter > for > > > male > > > > > > (which > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet but > > was > > > > > > curious... > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > > > > possibility.. > > > > > > Ashji > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the > beginning > > > and > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > across > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > > > > marriages. > > > > > > In my > > > > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am > > > married > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always give > > > > results > > > > > or > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are > > > conditions > > > > > that > > > > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, > > 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the lession > > > that > > > > > are > > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which gives > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving here > > for > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by > > > Saturn, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is > conjunct > > > with > > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points > on > > > 7th > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th > > > house. > > > > I > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus > is > > in > > > > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More > > > possibility > > > > of > > > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then 33% > > > that > > > > of > > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th > are > > > less > > > > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 > > points > > > > in > > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dear Pratap, In your chart, most of the lord of most houses are in upachaya. We are using upachaya system, and infact KAS and timing of event is based on using upachaya. Please go through the lessons and try to read and understand the archives, especially the mails from Krushnaji. Things will get clear in time. Just keep at it. I had given that question to you, specifically, so that you can remove any misconception that u had where in u were relating very high points to the status. That is incorrect. Status is to be seen from Karaks. This has been given in some lessons or archives. Slowly, with practice, such things will get clear. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " pkaneria " <pkaneria wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks. Read the post and thinking loud about 12th lord dictum. In > my rasi chart, no planet is lord of 12th or 2nd house. In navamsa > chart though, Sa, placed in 2nd house, is lord of 12th from it. Also > Ju, placed in 12th house, is lord of 12th from it. So per navamsa, > results of houses 1,2,11 and 12 are spoiled. Is this correct > deduction? > > One question. In KAS, Rahu and Ketu are considered lords of which > rasi? > > Regards, > > Pratap > > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, > > You might refer to the following mail to get further insight into > > KAS. > > > > /message/3294 > > > > Check out this gentlemans WS points. Mostly all points are high. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , " pkaneria " > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash (and Pratap): > > > > > > > > I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. > > > > > > > > 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do > > you > > > > mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good > > period. > > > > What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. > > > 1979- > > > > 80 was financially bad you mean. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap... 1972 - I need to clarify. I had good job and was > making > > > progress. But I was very ambitious and was fighting to get > > promoted > > > as Manager. During this time I gave ultimatum and when they > would > > > not give me the promotion, I left the company for like 2 or 3 > > weeks. > > > Then I got the call and they accepted my demand and I went back. > > > This is what I meant by struggle. Again 1979-80, I was doing > very > > > well in job but the business investment went sour, although I > > never > > > ran out of money due to good cash flow from job. A couple more > > > events for verification. I bought my first house on June 29, > 1974. > > I > > > bought a bigger house on June 29, 1983 (plus or minus a couple > of > > > days) where I still live. > > > > > > A side note. I was just looking at ranking of planets by h1, h2 > > etc. > > > I find that Sa is always at the top with as much as 50+ points. > I > > > looked at the chart of one of my friend who is far more > successful > > > and none of his points are over 30. This guy is a world renowned > > > architect, owns his own business and is a multi millionaire. > What > > is > > > holding my Sa up? :; If I have to wait for Sa mahadasa, it > will > > be > > > too late. Somehow I have always felt that my best time is yet to > > > come! On this coming oct 23, my Sa+Ju transit points are moving > > upto > > > 12 from 7. May be a lottery? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the > > reasons > > > in > > > > my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont > ignore > > > from > > > > where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I > > see, > > > > Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house > > > lord, > > > > from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 > points > > > > which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th > > > house > > > > and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that > > > Jupiter > > > > which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to > > make > > > > it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more > income > > > and > > > > less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of > income > > > and > > > > less loss, but it did not happen. > > > > > > > > 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it > > should... :- > > > > ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. > > > > > > > > 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? >> > > My > > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " > > > > > > > > ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected > > Mo/Mo > > > > and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon > and > > > > Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong > > > according > > > > to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are > > > transited > > > > by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no > > > conception > > > > occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not > > > predict > > > > child birth during this period? If not then could you give > some > > > > hints why? > > > > > > > > Thanking you for your time > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer > > these > > > > > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87- 88 > > > > (sat+jup > > > > > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), > > > 1997- > > > > 98 > > > > > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup > > > more > > > > > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > > > > > > > > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I > > > think > > > > I > > > > > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went > > > > bankrupt > > > > > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year > > > lease > > > > > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In > 87- > > > 88, > > > > I > > > > > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock > > > > market. > > > > > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for > > > > giving > > > > > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work > > > ever > > > > > and if you did you may have done well too. > > > > > > > > > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 > > which > > > I > > > > > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to > go > > to > > > > US. > > > > > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I > > did > > > > very > > > > > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined > > second > > > > job > > > > > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit > this > > > job > > > > I > > > > > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting > > (independent) > > > > in > > > > > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did > > > > consulting > > > > > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation > completely > > > and > > > > > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a > > > > mortgage > > > > > broker with not much success. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for > sometime? > > > Yes. > > > > I > > > > > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov > 84 > > > and > > > > > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than > > > > marriage? > > > > > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you > > > > elaborate > > > > > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing > I > > > can > > > > > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very > > happy > > > at > > > > > work and successful. And other very important thing is that > I > > > had > > > > > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > > > > > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like > a > > > > hobby > > > > > to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something > > else > > > > in > > > > > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in > 1976 > > > and > > > > > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went > > up > > > > all > > > > > the way to the top. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and > moon/jupiter? > > My > > > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails > > > that > > > > it > > > > > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so > just > > > > want > > > > > to > > > > > > confirm some events. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > > > > > navamsa, > > > > > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in > > 7th > > > > > house, > > > > > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary > > aspected > > > by > > > > > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests > > > > multiple > > > > > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is > aspcting > > > > venus > > > > > in > > > > > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will > > not > > > > come > > > > > > out > > > > > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I > > > would > > > > > have > > > > > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now > > > tell > > > > > what > > > > > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be > spoon > > > > > > feeding, > > > > > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will > > learn > > > > > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > > > > > relationships > > > > > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not > > present > > > > in > > > > > > this > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this > > will > > > > help > > > > > > ust > > > > > > > to learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ashji, > > > > > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second > marriage > > > or > > > > > > > affair ? > > > > > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for > person > > > to > > > > get > > > > > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital > > > > affairs ? > > > > > > > > please guide. > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would > > wait > > > > for > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still > > overlooking > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa > > closely > > > > > please. > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa > but > > > in > > > > > rasi > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D > and > > > > venus > > > > > > in > > > > > > > B > > > > > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and > > not > > > > > > acting > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of > > > > jupiter > > > > > on > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i > understood > > > that > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out > in > > > > > public. > > > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn > > in > > > > rasi > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola > nakshatra.. > > > and > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in > public > > > as > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter > > > > checks > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then > it > > > > means > > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of > > venus. > > > I > > > > > > know > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for > my > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both > in > > > rasi > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and > > > > regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am > > > > learner. > > > > > > > Your > > > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are > aspected > > > by > > > > > > saturn > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra > marital > > > > > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given > > yet, > > > i > > > > > may > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the > barometer > > of > > > > > > > character > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive > > > Krushnaji > > > > > has > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral > > > > character... > > > > > i > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter > > for > > > > male > > > > > > > (which > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet > but > > > was > > > > > > > curious... > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > > > > > possibility.. > > > > > > > Ashji > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the > > beginning > > > > and > > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > > across > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > In my > > > > > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am > > > > married > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always > give > > > > > results > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are > > > > conditions > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, > 70E27, > > > 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the > lession > > > > that > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which > gives > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving > here > > > for > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by > > > > Saturn, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or > Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is > > conjunct > > > > with > > > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points > > on > > > > 7th > > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th > > > > house. > > > > > I > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus > > is > > > in > > > > > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More > > > > possibility > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then > 33% > > > > that > > > > > of > > > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th > > are > > > > less > > > > > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 > > > points > > > > > in > > > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dear Jagdish You wrote " > Sir, for being a beggar a person MUST HAVE his all house SEVERLY AFFECTED. And i dont see this in his case. > > Is this person still beggar ? I seriously doubt........... " What are u implying here? If you do not have faith in the teacher teaching us KAS, it is better you focus on learning some other system. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Respected Sir Ash > > Greetings > > Once i became very much interested in KAS. I liked it very much as it is so precise and mathematical. > > I started reading all the mails in the past. I was more impressed till i read message no 3294. > > I felt that the person is having very high points in 6th house. 6th house is house of status and its lord is in 5th from it. So everything is good regarding 6th house matter then why this person could not get any status in his life ? > > You said in your email while solving the puzzle that the person may be a government servant with high status but very little salary. And i still feel that you were right at that time. > > His lagna lord and 7th lord are in 12th house. So they both are in " high status " . I think that if Lagna-Lord is strong in someone's horoscope then it can save him from many problems in life. In this case, atleast this person should not be a beggar. > > One of the point in lessons is " whereever 12th lord sits it increases the status of that house. In this horoscope, 12th lord is in 11th house hence increasing the status but decreasin the status of 12th house. > > 11th lord is in 11th from it. 2nd lord is in 11th from 2nd house. 5th lord is in 4th from 5th house. 8th lord is in 2nd from 8th house.......so far no problem. > > Now if we focus only on income then except the fact that the person having 21 points in 11th house nothing is so bad which can make a person beggar ? > > > Money is very important factor in life. If its not there then any house in the horoscope will not be helpful. So if he is still a beggar then most probably his wife might have left him along with kids. Definitely he will not be having friends. For being a beggar, there should be NO BLESSINGS AT ALL in the horoscope. > > Sir, for being a beggar a person MUST HAVE his all house SEVERLY AFFECTED. And i dont see this in his case. > > Is this person still beggar ? I seriously doubt........... > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > You might refer to the following mail to get further insight into > KAS. > > /message/3294 > > Check out this gentlemans WS points. Mostly all points are high. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " pkaneria " > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash (and Pratap): > > > > > > I need guidance here. Give me hints where I have gone wrong. > > > > > > 1) PRATAP- when you say year 1972 was struggle period what do > you > > > mean? You must be seeing my points of saying it was a good > period. > > > What was missing? I hope you dont mind answering my questions. > > 1979- > > > 80 was financially bad you mean. > > > > > > > > Pratap... 1972 - I need to clarify. I had good job and was making > > progress. But I was very ambitious and was fighting to get > promoted > > as Manager. During this time I gave ultimatum and when they would > > not give me the promotion, I left the company for like 2 or 3 > weeks. > > Then I got the call and they accepted my demand and I went back. > > This is what I meant by struggle. Again 1979-80, I was doing very > > well in job but the business investment went sour, although I > never > > ran out of money due to good cash flow from job. A couple more > > events for verification. I bought my first house on June 29, 1974. > I > > bought a bigger house on June 29, 1983 (plus or minus a couple of > > days) where I still live. > > > > A side note. I was just looking at ranking of planets by h1, h2 > etc. > > I find that Sa is always at the top with as much as 50+ points. I > > looked at the chart of one of my friend who is far more successful > > and none of his points are over 30. This guy is a world renowned > > architect, owns his own business and is a multi millionaire. What > is > > holding my Sa up? :; If I have to wait for Sa mahadasa, it will > be > > too late. Somehow I have always felt that my best time is yet to > > come! On this coming oct 23, my Sa+Ju transit points are moving > upto > > 12 from 7. May be a lottery? > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH- Saturn sub-periods should be good as I have told the > reasons > > in > > > my previous mail. As during a discussion you said, " dont ignore > > from > > > where is a particular planet getting strength " . so here as I > see, > > > Saturn gets strength from Jupiter which is 7th and 10th house > > lord, > > > from mars (5 points) which is 6th lord, Venus is giving 6 points > > > which is 12th lord. so, will the happiness be destroyed as 6th > > house > > > and 12th house lords are making it strong. Please note that > > Jupiter > > > which is kendra lords is alloting maximum points to Saturn to > make > > > it strong. 1987-88 Pratap went through losses...why? more income > > and > > > less expenditure, 2nd house good points so the timing of income > > and > > > less loss, but it did not happen. > > > > > > 2) First job thing matches well. Almost exactly as it > should... :- > > > ) . Mars has always triggered the job area. > > > > > > 7) " Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter?>> > My > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. " > > > > > > ASH- How can we time the MD for child birth? I had selected > Mo/Mo > > > and Mo/Ju. Moon is SD to the FK Venus in this case and Moon and > > > Jupiter are LOD and LOE resp. . Mo and Jupiter are strong > > according > > > to the WS to give child too. There are no zeroes which are > > transited > > > by Saturn or Jupiter at that time either.(considering, no > > conception > > > occurred either during that mentioned period). Will you not > > predict > > > child birth during this period? If not then could you give some > > > hints why? > > > > > > Thanking you for your time > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > taking your chart as a study... Could you please answer > these > > > > > questons of mine for study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > 1)Tell about your saturn antras. Year 1972, 1979-80, 87-88 > > > (sat+jup > > > > > is less so not very happy mentally, pessimistic thoughts), > > 1997- > > > 98 > > > > > etc. how were these periods? Good points, MF high, sat+jup > > more > > > > than 8. Must have been very good periods. > > > > > > > > Job wise I was going thru a lot of struggle in 1972. 1980 I > > think > > > I > > > > had bought a franchise in partnership. The franchisor went > > > bankrupt > > > > before they delivered anything and I was stuck with a 8 year > > lease > > > > (my personal guarantee). Was very painful in many ways. In 87- > > 88, > > > I > > > > was consulting with a lot of downtime. Also losses in stock > > > market. > > > > 97-98 was the peak financially but not a happy period. > > > > > > > > > > 2)First job in 1965-67 or from 1968-69 sometime?(sorry for > > > giving > > > > > such a big range) Did you go for your own independent work > > ever > > > > and if you did you may have done well too. > > > > > > > > I did a job for 15 days (Bombay) in may be july/august 66 > which > > I > > > > quit because they wanted me to post a bond and I wanted to go > to > > > US. > > > > I started real first job (US) on Jan 27, 1969. Eventually I > did > > > very > > > > well in this job. This job ended on May 7, 1976. I joined > second > > > job > > > > on May 10, 1976. I did extremely well in this job. I quit this > > job > > > I > > > > think in March/April of 1985. I started consulting > (independent) > > > in > > > > I believe august 1985. Since then until March 2004, I did > > > consulting > > > > in IT. In sept 2004, I had to change my occupation completely > > and > > > > now I am a life insurance broker, a real estate agent and a > > > mortgage > > > > broker with not much success. > > > > > > > > > > 3) 1984-85 were you separated from your wife for sometime? > > Yes. > > > I > > > > went alone to India (to attend wedding of my cousin) in nov 84 > > and > > > > returned in feb 1985. I haven't been to India since. > > > > > > > > > > 4) 1984-85 any kind of attraction in your life other than > > > marriage? > > > > No. My focus has always been on making money. > > > > > > > > > > 5) how were your jupiter sub-periods jobwise? could you > > > elaborate > > > > on this? This would be too many time periods. But only thing I > > can > > > > say is that in whenever and wherever I worked, I was very > happy > > at > > > > work and successful. And other very important thing is that I > > had > > > > always tremendous relationships with my bosses. They really > > > > protected and promoted me (Good Guru?). Work was always like a > > > hobby > > > > to me. > > > > > > > > > > 6) Did you not work or leave your job for doing something > else > > > in > > > > > the year 1978-79 sometime? No. I started second job in 1976 > > and > > > > stayed with them till 1985. I started at the bottom and went > up > > > all > > > > the way to the top. > > > > > > > > > > 7) Were any children born in moon/moon or/and moon/jupiter? > My > > > > only daughter was born in sun/saturn. > > > > > > > > > > I am not timing the marriage, as I gathered from the mails > > that > > > it > > > > > was timed before and birth time is already rectified so just > > > want > > > > to > > > > > confirm some events. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you answer these for MY study purpose? > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the same questions as Harjeet. Venus with mars in > > > > navamsa, > > > > > > aspected by saturn in rasi, venus with ketu and moon in > 7th > > > > house, > > > > > > venus with low points aspected by saturn, Luminary > aspected > > by > > > > > > saturn and venus is moola nakshatra. This all suggests > > > multiple > > > > > > relationships (not marriage may be as Jupiter is aspcting > > > venus > > > > in > > > > > > navamsa, and also is in 10th from venus in rasi so will > not > > > come > > > > > out > > > > > > with the affairs in the society. Had I seen the chart I > > would > > > > have > > > > > > said this person is hiding facts...are you Pratap? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please not leave it on us to think Ash and now > > tell > > > > what > > > > > > is it that we are overlooking? Trust me this wont be spoon > > > > > feeding, > > > > > > we are giving our efforts and if you tell this we will > learn > > > > > > something new or relearn something which is important. > > > > > > > > > > > > one thing which I always see in separation/multiple > > > > relationships > > > > > > etc charts is sun-ven distance >43 deg, which is not > present > > > in > > > > > this > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Pratap for giving your chart for analysis, this > will > > > help > > > > > ust > > > > > > to learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > Check blessings. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ashji, > > > > > > > What has blessings to do with not having second marriage > > or > > > > > > affair ? > > > > > > > I thought blessings of guru or father is only for person > > to > > > get > > > > > > > married if there is denial or dealy in marriage. > > > > > > > does blessings deny second marriage ore extra marital > > > affairs ? > > > > > > > please guide. > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > > > > I couldnt find with my limited thoughts. I would > wait > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > > > > > > > > Good churning of thought. You are still > overlooking > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > can change so many things. Look at Navamsa > closely > > > > please. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Ashji, Rameshji, Pratapji, > > > > > > > > > > > I have some confusion if you can clear. > > > > > > > > > > > Here venus is aspected by jupiter in navamsa but > > in > > > > rasi > > > > > i > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > it. Jupiter here is with 6 points in house D and > > > venus > > > > > in > > > > > > B > > > > > > > > with 2 > > > > > > > > > > > points.. except for venus opposing jupiter and > not > > > > > acting > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > samdhari > > > > > > > > > > > i dont find any other connection of aspect of > > > jupiter > > > > on > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > > Again i may be wrong but as far as i understood > > that > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > aspects venus things happen but wont come out in > > > > public. > > > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > > > at venus with moon aspected by rahu and saturn > in > > > rasi > > > > > and > > > > > > > > situated > > > > > > > > > > > with mars in navamsa...also in moola nakshatra.. > > and > > > > in > > > > > > > > mutable > > > > > > > > > > sign. > > > > > > > > > > > person might have affair but dont come in public > > as > > > > its > > > > > > > > aspected by > > > > > > > > > > > jupiter. if any affair isnt there then jupiter > > > checks > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > keep it in control. if this is the case then it > > > means > > > > > > jupiter > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > aspect on venus can change the behaviour of > venus. > > I > > > > > know > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > stretched a simple thing too much but its for my > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > understanding... > > > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, Harjeet, Ash and list members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please notice the aspect of Jup on Ve.both in > > rasi > > > > and > > > > > > > > navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the saving grace.Thanks and > > > regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its interesting.. i am fascinated as i am > > > learner. > > > > > > Your > > > > > > > > venus > > > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > > > > mutable sign with moon and they are aspected > > by > > > > > saturn > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > rahu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in moola nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > there might be possibility of extra marital > > > > affair..? > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lesson on divisonal chart isnt given > yet, > > i > > > > may > > > > > be > > > > > > > > wrong > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > > out of curosity .... venus is the barometer > of > > > > > > character > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > male > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > mars for female. Somewhere in archive > > Krushnaji > > > > has > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > mars > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > trishamsa of Jupiter might give moral > > > character... > > > > i > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > > applies for venus in trishamsa of jupiter > for > > > male > > > > > > (which > > > > > > > > is in > > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > > case).. > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know lessons arent given for this yet but > > was > > > > > > curious... > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > intention to confuse anyone... just a > > > > possibility.. > > > > > > Ashji > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > Krushnaji > > > > > > > > > > > > > might guide better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu/Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was going thru messages from the > beginning > > > and > > > > > > came > > > > > > > > across > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lession about combinations for multiple > > > > marriages. > > > > > > In my > > > > > > > > > > chart, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have some of these combinations and I am > > > married > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > > for 38 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > years. Are these combinations always give > > > > results > > > > > or > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > indicate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a possibility? May be there are > > > conditions > > > > > that > > > > > > > > cancel > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yogas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata: Nov 18, 1944, 20:47, 70E27, > > 21N44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the combinations from the lession > > > that > > > > > are > > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > > in my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SOME COMBINATIONS FOR MULTIPLE MARRIAGES > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are some combinations which gives > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > marriages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of such combinations I am giving here > > for > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > references: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, Venus with less points, aspected by > > > Saturn, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > luminery ( in sign chart and or Navamansha) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is aspected by Saturn and is > conjunct > > > with > > > > > > Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Sight of Jupiter having more points > on > > > 7th > > > > > > house > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Seventh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord. More points of Jupiter more no. of > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter has 38 points and is lord of 7th > > > house. > > > > I > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting 7th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. In yog no 1, given above , if Venus > is > > in > > > > > > Krittika, > > > > > > > > > > Aradra, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeshtha, or Mul constellation, More > > > possibility > > > > of > > > > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > > > > marriages > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus is in Moola constellation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Points in Ascendant are more then 33% > > > that > > > > of > > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > > points in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house ( Sarvastak)and points in 7th > are > > > less > > > > > > then 25 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 27 points in ascendant and 19 > > points > > > > in > > > > > > 7th. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate some feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dear Harjeet Ji Thanks. I do admit that having 21 points in 11th house is a very prominent factor. I also do admit that 12th lord in 11th house is ruining the status of hosue B. I also do admit that " Dhan-Sthana " i.e. 2, 5, 8 and 11 does not have good points. But experience in life says that if a person is beggar then he will not have house, status, family, religion, siblings, wife will left or will go for prostitution, chances of dieing earlier and so on.... I mean to say for a " BEGGER " all 12 houses must be severly affected. All 12. And i am not able to see in this horoscope. My second thought is " Navmasha chart is as equal as Rasi chart " Now looking at Navmasha chart few things i can say... 1) Person is DIE-HARD... 38 points in 3rd house. 2) 12th lord is in 5th house increasing its status. 5th house is " Dhan-sthana " . 3) 6th house has 31 points in navmasha and hence showing the status. 4) 8th house has 30 points and 11th house has 29 points. Navmasha Kundli does not support for his being a beggar. Please explain, i want to learn this chart as its so UNIQUE. Best Wishes Jagdish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Respected Sir Ash ! I have full faith in KAS. But cant i ask questions which are in my mind ? Being " Beggar " or Being " Super-Rich " ,a person must have most of his house getting affected in good or bad manner. Say if 11th house is strong (person is having good income) then his 4th house (car, assets) should also be strong in normal human-being case. KAS also says that all houses are connected to eath other using Karka. Now in this specific case of " Beggar " , i feel that the person is a " Saint " like Kabir (not like Osho). Thats the only situation when his 6th house can be justified along with income. I guess you can understand me. Best Wishes Jagdish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dear Jagdish, I dont know about the time accuracy for the navamsa to be correct and as i am a learner so dont have much to say about that... personally i dont think many charts would have both rasi and navamsa supporting some particular matter... there would always be difference.. i am not saying he is beggar or not but if all 4 dhansthan are weak then how is he going to get money ? i am not trying to support anything blindly but i have my 11th house just 2 points less than my 10th house. 5th is less than 28. i have a masters degree in computer science but due to circumstances i have to work in a store... and put lot of effort to earn money. 30 sep 1974 / new delhi / around 10:40 am. i cant go and study navamsa(not having precise birth time) but in rasi kundli most seems to happen according to KAS. i know having just 2 points less in 11th than 10th means more hard work and less in 5th .... i couldnt earn much thru education... my personal experience comes out to be quite true. thanks/regards harjeet , " upaoakcrest " <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Dear Harjeet Ji > > Thanks. > > I do admit that having 21 points in 11th house is a very prominent > factor. > > I also do admit that 12th lord in 11th house is ruining the status > of hosue B. > > I also do admit that " Dhan-Sthana " i.e. 2, 5, 8 and 11 does not have > good points. > > But experience in life says that if a person is beggar then he will > not have house, status, family, religion, siblings, wife will left > or will go for prostitution, chances of dieing earlier and so on.... > > I mean to say for a " BEGGER " all 12 houses must be severly affected. > All 12. > > And i am not able to see in this horoscope. > > > My second thought is " Navmasha chart is as equal as Rasi chart " Now > looking at Navmasha chart few things i can say... > > 1) Person is DIE-HARD... 38 points in 3rd house. > 2) 12th lord is in 5th house increasing its status. 5th house > is " Dhan-sthana " . > 3) 6th house has 31 points in navmasha and hence showing the status. > 4) 8th house has 30 points and 11th house has 29 points. > > Navmasha Kundli does not support for his being a beggar. > > > Please explain, i want to learn this chart as its so UNIQUE. > > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Message Number 3600 Horoscope of Bill Gates is being discussed in the message. Kurshan Ji says " ....Yes there is one law which can say about the earning, but that is also relative. It is like this: From Lagna and Moon and Sun, if there is any natural benefic planet situated in 3,6,10th and 11th house, then the person earn and accumulate good money, If all natural benefics are in these houses then Much more money ( count less). Narural benefics are Jupiter, Venus, Mercury and Wanning Moon. Now in this chart From Moon : Jupiter is situated in 6th place. From Lagna : Mercury is in 3rd place From Sun : Moon is in 6th place, and Jupiter is in 11th place. So Jupiter, Mercury, and Moon are satisfying these conditions. ..... " Lets apply this rule to the beggar's horoscope... From Lagna, he has Ju in 11th and Me in 10. From Moon, he has Me in 11th house. From Sun, he has jupiter in 3rd house. So Ju and Me are satisfying the conditions. SO irrespective of horrible 11th house, Me and Ju must have saved him from being beggar ?????? Best Wishes Jagdish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Thats interesting Jagdish, I dont have the date/time of Bill Gates... can you please post points in 2,5,8,11 houses in the chart? thanks/regards harjeet , " upaoakcrest " <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Message Number 3600 > > Horoscope of Bill Gates is being discussed in the message. > > Kurshan Ji says > > > " ....Yes there is one law which can say about the earning, but that > is > also relative. It is like this: > From Lagna and Moon and Sun, if there is any natural benefic > planet situated in 3,6,10th and 11th house, then the person earn and > accumulate good money, If all natural benefics are in these houses > then Much more money ( count less). Narural benefics are Jupiter, > Venus, Mercury and Wanning Moon. Now in this chart > > From Moon : Jupiter is situated in 6th place. > From Lagna : Mercury is in 3rd place > From Sun : Moon is in 6th place, and Jupiter is in 11th place. > So Jupiter, Mercury, and Moon are satisfying these conditions. > .... " > > > Lets apply this rule to the beggar's horoscope... > > From Lagna, he has Ju in 11th and Me in 10. > From Moon, he has Me in 11th house. > From Sun, he has jupiter in 3rd house. > > So Ju and Me are satisfying the conditions. > > SO irrespective of horrible 11th house, Me and Ju must have saved > him from being beggar ?????? > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dear Friend Harjeet Either your horoscope is wrong or you are unnecessary worried. Please have a look on this chart. 3-Apr-1956 16-16 Lat 26 , 17 N Long 73, 4, E The person is very very rich. I got the birth details from other . In your case there is exchange of 11th and 12th lord. But rest in your horoscope is not so bad. Best Wishes Jagdish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dear Friend Harjeet If you read the archieve then you can find plenty of interesting horoscope. I hope this link will take you there /messages/3600 Best Wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dear Jagdish, Thanks very much Jagdish for the link... we all here want to learn something that makes sense to us... I get 37 points for 11th house and 26 points for 10th house for Bill Gates.. i didnt believe in the system before but some of my doubts are clear and other would be clear on practice, patience and more lessons that follow.. sometimes as stated in the archive the degree of planets holds importance too.. along with multiplication factor and other things.. u must be knowing as u have more knowledge than me... i personally like to check the horoscopes of the persons i know of.. i checked the 11th house points in most people who i know and it comes true that more points they have more income and less points they have less income.. if the 11th house isnt having more points... that means not many planets are supporting that house .... so it doesnt matter on the individual positioning of the planets. your views are welcome as its a learning process for me.. and i would definately learn from it too.. thanks/regards harjeet , " upaoakcrest " <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Dear Friend Harjeet > > If you read the archieve then you can find plenty of interesting > horoscope. > > I hope this link will take you there > > /messages/3600 > > Best Wishes > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 more points in 12th house for bill gates too... he is donating most of his money ?? , " upaoakcrest " <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Dear Friend Harjeet > > If you read the archieve then you can find plenty of interesting > horoscope. > > I hope this link will take you there > > /messages/3600 > > Best Wishes > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Dear Harjeet, You are doing great and making me learn as well. Just one point of clarification. You wrote, " if the 11th house isnt having more points... that means not many planets are supporting that house .... so it doesnt matter on the individual positioning of the planets. " Actually everything depends on the individual positioning of the planets, the whole system is based on that. the relative positioning of the planets and the lagna gives ashtakavarga bindus for each house. That is where we get the 11th house points. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Jagdish, > Thanks very much Jagdish for the link... > we all here want to learn something that makes sense to us... > I get 37 points for 11th house and 26 points for 10th house for Bill > Gates.. > i didnt believe in the system before but some of my doubts are clear > and other would be clear on practice, patience and more lessons that > follow.. sometimes as stated in the archive the degree of planets > holds importance too.. along with multiplication factor and other things.. > u must be knowing as u have more knowledge than me... > i personally like to check the horoscopes of the persons i know of.. > i checked the 11th house points in most people who i know and it > comes true that more points they have more income and less points they > have less income.. > if the 11th house isnt having more points... that means not many > planets are supporting that house .... so it doesnt matter on the > individual positioning of the planets. > your views are welcome as its a learning process for me.. and i would > definately learn from it too.. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > > , " upaoakcrest " > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friend Harjeet > > > > If you read the archieve then you can find plenty of interesting > > horoscope. > > > > I hope this link will take you there > > > > /messages/3600 > > > > Best Wishes > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Sir, I mean to say that a single planet doesnt have to say much i guess.. i m taking about the whole picture.. if a single planet supports 11th house but 6 planet doesnt ? it means have to consider all the planets that support and all that doesnt... like 4 support and 3 dont.. in this case much importance shouldnt be give to the criteria that jupiter is in uppachay or not... i hope i make sense.. or able to convey myself thanks/regards harjeet , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > > You are doing great and making me learn as well. Just one point of > clarification. You wrote, > > " if the 11th house isnt having more points... that means not many > planets are supporting that house .... so it doesnt matter on the > individual positioning of the planets. " > > Actually everything depends on the individual positioning of the > planets, the whole system is based on that. the relative positioning > of the planets and the lagna gives ashtakavarga bindus for each house. > That is where we get the 11th house points. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Jagdish, > > Thanks very much Jagdish for the link... > > we all here want to learn something that makes sense to us... > > I get 37 points for 11th house and 26 points for 10th house for Bill > > Gates.. > > i didnt believe in the system before but some of my doubts are clear > > and other would be clear on practice, patience and more lessons that > > follow.. sometimes as stated in the archive the degree of planets > > holds importance too.. along with multiplication factor and other > things.. > > u must be knowing as u have more knowledge than me... > > i personally like to check the horoscopes of the persons i know of.. > > i checked the 11th house points in most people who i know and it > > comes true that more points they have more income and less points they > > have less income.. > > if the 11th house isnt having more points... that means not many > > planets are supporting that house .... so it doesnt matter on the > > individual positioning of the planets. > > your views are welcome as its a learning process for me.. and i would > > definately learn from it too.. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > > > , " upaoakcrest " > > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friend Harjeet > > > > > > If you read the archieve then you can find plenty of interesting > > > horoscope. > > > > > > I hope this link will take you there > > > > > > /messages/3600 > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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