Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Dear Niklesh, For one, KAS is no different from what is perceived as VA today. Ashtakavarga is given by the Maharishes and many of them have had reference to this powerful tool in many of the classics that have been written down today. The portion of how to use upachaya houses and Ashtakvarga for timing of events has not been given anywhere or might have been list over time or kept with some families and protected such as Krushaji and his Guruji's and in their lineage. For basic of the very basic, no where we are using Sign in judging the strength of timing of event. Ashtakavarga is based on relative positioning of planets and the power of planet we are judging based on their relative positioning. So for timing of events, keep sign aside. So your basic query on neeech bhanga yog which in one scenario can also mean that if say Jupites is in unccha rasi or in cancer and its in 20 to 23deg20 in cancer then it goes into capricorn navamsa so what happens? There you are judging the POWER of a planet using sign. We do not do that in Ashtakavarga for TIMING OF EVENT. We do use sign, uncha neecha mt etc but for quality. One of the ways we would look at the above scenaio would be that Ju is in Cancer and say if Jupiter is 6th lord then its MULTIPLICATION FACTOR (Lessson 26) will be 1.4. That is one portion of it. Next is that say if its in lagna and cancer is lagna, then Ju will go into lagna and say if such a Guru has 5 bindus, then it will aspect 9th, 7th and 5th house with very malefic dristi and depart the persons represented by those house, not just make them sick or anyhting like that which is temporary but depart them. So father, wife and children. Similar is the phenemon in Lord Ram's chart. Yes, it will make the person a Mahapurush, but AT THE COST OF 9th, 7th and 5th. So we in KAS consider both sides of the coin. One is that its got more bindus and its in unncha rasi and with more bindus and MF is high so it makes one Mahapurush, people still take Lord Rams name today, howerver that was at a very high cost, which is the second side of the equation i.e .at the cost of his father dying, wife departing and children too. Good for 1 at the cost of 3. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > > 21.09.2006 > Dear Learned Members, > > Sub:More planets as exalted, in own sign, Mool-Trikon. > > The statement " More the planets in own sign or in Mool-Trikon or exalted - the lesser are the benifits to the native " , seems to be very true. I have also noticed the same while analyzing the charts. The overall effect was observed to be bad unless that native had some deblited planets also or some beneficial aspects. > > My query is : Is the effect as bad when the Planets have " Neech- Bhung Raj yog? > Does KAS theroy consider the 'Neech-Bhung Raj yog' factor? > > I am sorry that am not able to participate in the analysis as I still tend to mix the vedic astrological knowledge with the KAS theories, but never-the-less I am reading KAS a lot & trying to prepare for KAS based analyses. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 Ash wrote : > >Dear Jagdish and List Members, > > > > I have casted this chart, but Jagdish, I do not have enough time to go to the nitty gritty. You can time these events by taking help of list members to further your learnings. > > > > One thing, as per KAS we say that when more planets are in own sign, mool trikon, or uncha rasi or exalted, then the status of the entire chart goes down. That is given by Krushnaji in some lesson. I have personally experienced such things in several charts. > > > > In this chart, Ju is in Cancer, Me is in Virgo, Ve is in mooltrikon, Ra and Ke represent planets that are in unccha and mool trikon i.e Ju and Ve and Me, Sun is in Leo, the 10t house of this gentleman is 25 points only, lagna points are 35, Venus to sun distance is 46 and Venus is with Sa in rasi and Sa aspects both luminiaries, no blessings, 2 of the 3 arth trikon has less points in SAV, average intellegence, stubborn nature and egositic too, might have problem with male child or miscarriage etc. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > >upaoakcrest <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Respected Sir Ash Ji, Bakshi Ji and List Members > > > >Here i want to put a horoscope in front of you. The good thing about > >this person is that he has spent 52 years so we can learn a lot from > >his horoscope and life. > > > >His data is > > > >TOB 17:40 > >DOB 6 Sep 1954 > >POB Patna > >25 N 37 > >85 E 12 > > > >Facts about him > > > >1) Date of marriage June 30th, 1982 > >2 Father passed away Oct 26th, 1987 > >3) Mother passed away May 21, 2003 > >4) 2 children: 1 daughter 19 1/2 yrs and son 18yrs. > > > >Now i am coping and pasting his sentence(i have taken his permission > >for putting his data) > > > > " I need to know what's happening in my life nothing seems to be > >going right for last 10 -12 years. I am unable to keep a JOB / No > >Money / Lost everything I earned / Reputation in severe danger / no > >supports from anyone. Loosing my mind basically. > > > >When will I find a JOB " > > > >I checked his 11th house. It has only 28 points And his 6th house > >has 30 points. > > > >I will tell later on about his finanical condition. If time of birth > >is correct then this horoscope is very intereting for > >monetary/status point of view. > > > >Best Wishes > > > >Jagdish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 22.09.2006 Sub: Jupiter in Ascendant. Hello Leaned Members, Thanks to Ash for his reply and his scientific explanation, citing a very pertinent example of Lord Ram. It was almost like a class-room session. I agree with the theory that Jupiter in the Ascendant affects the 5th, 7th & 9th houses for the cause of 'separation' with the relatives who govern these 3 houses. I have some examples to share with the group. Case-1: Native born on 19-05-1961, 00:52 hrs, 030.43N, 076.47E. The Jupiter is in the ascendant in the Capricorn sign and has 6 points. This native had to live away from his father from a young age (not very very far, but in a different city). In the AD of Jupiter (MD of Mercury) he had to leave his family for professional reasons and is still staying away from his wife and two daughters. Case-2: Native born on 13-10-1963, 17:00 hrs, 26.53N, 75.50E. The Jupiter is in the ascendant in the Pieces sign and has 5 points. This lady had to live away from her husband as he had to go to other place for professional reasons. But her children are with her ( 2 daughters). Case-3: Native born on 24-07-1991, 06:55 hrs, 23.31N, 75.07E. The Jupiter is in the ascendant in the Cancer sign and has 3 points. This boy was ‘compelled’ by his parents to go to a different city for his school education at an early age of 12 years. But within couple of years his mother joined him in that city. But the boy is staying away from his father. In all the 3 cases cited above there is apparently no relationship problem of the native with the children, spouse and father but the native had to depart from parents/ spouse. The common factor is Jupiter in the ascendant due to which the native must have got departed away from parents / spouse. I believe that the separation is temporary and if & when a favorable AD comes, the natives might live again in unison. May be the 'Desh', 'Kaal', Paristhithi (circumstances) factor would play the role. Few questions for the group here: A. Is it necessary that the separation on account of Jupiter occurs in its MD or AD only? I believe that the departing can occur in the AD of other planets also giving a similar kind of effect. B. If there is a samdharmi planet along with Jupiter in the ascendant, would it also have similar effect on the 5th, 7th, 9th houses in its MD / AD, as far as ‘separation’ is concerned with the relatives who govern these 3 houses? Thanks once again to Ash, Regards, Nikhlesh Mathur On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 ashsam73 wrote : >Dear Niklesh, > >For one, KAS is no different from what is perceived as VA today. >Ashtakavarga is given by the Maharishes and many of them have had >reference to this powerful tool in many of the classics that have >been written down today. >The portion of how to use upachaya houses and Ashtakvarga for timing >of events has not been given anywhere or might have been list over >time or kept with some families and protected such as Krushaji and >his Guruji's and in their lineage. > >For basic of the very basic, no where we are using Sign in judging >the strength of timing of event. Ashtakavarga is based on relative >positioning of planets and the power of planet we are judging based >on their relative positioning. > >So for timing of events, keep sign aside. So your basic query on >neeech bhanga yog which in one scenario can also mean that if say >Jupites is in unccha rasi or in cancer and its in 20 to 23deg20 in >cancer then it goes into capricorn navamsa so what happens? There >you are judging the POWER of a planet using sign. We do not do that >in Ashtakavarga for TIMING OF EVENT. >We do use sign, uncha neecha mt etc but for quality. > >One of the ways we would look at the above scenaio would be that Ju >is in Cancer and say if Jupiter is 6th lord then its MULTIPLICATION >FACTOR (Lessson 26) will be 1.4. That is one portion of it. Next is >that say if its in lagna and cancer is lagna, then Ju will go into >lagna and say if such a Guru has 5 bindus, then it will aspect 9th, >7th and 5th house with very malefic dristi and depart the persons >represented by those house, not just make them sick or anyhting like >that which is temporary but depart them. So father, wife and >children. > >Similar is the phenemon in Lord Ram's chart. Yes, it will make the >person a Mahapurush, but AT THE COST OF 9th, 7th and 5th. > >So we in KAS consider both sides of the coin. One is that its got >more bindus and its in unncha rasi and with more bindus and MF is >high so it makes one Mahapurush, people still take Lord Rams name >today, howerver that was at a very high cost, which is the second >side of the equation i.e .at the cost of his father dying, wife >departing and children too. > >Good for 1 at the cost of 3. > >Cheers !!! >Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " nikhlesh mathur " ><nikhleshmathur wrote: > > > > > > 21.09.2006 > > Dear Learned Members, > > > > Sub:More planets as exalted, in own sign, Mool-Trikon. > > > > The statement " More the planets in own sign or in Mool-Trikon or >exalted - the lesser are the benifits to the native " , seems to be >very true. I have also noticed the same while analyzing the charts. >The overall effect was observed to be bad unless that native had >some deblited planets also or some beneficial aspects. > > > > My query is : Is the effect as bad when the Planets have " Neech- >Bhung Raj yog? > > Does KAS theroy consider the 'Neech-Bhung Raj yog' factor? > > > > I am sorry that am not able to participate in the analysis as I >still tend to mix the vedic astrological knowledge with the KAS >theories, but never-the-less I am reading KAS a lot & trying to >prepare for KAS based analyses. > > > > Regards, > > Nikhlesh Mathur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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