Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Dear All, At current level of my understanding of KAS, I see that antara lord is involved in identifying the houses that will give results. But how about the involvment of MD lord? It is seems improbable that an antara lord will give the same results under any MD lord. What I mean to say is that Rahu/Sun results are unlikely to be very similar to Moon/Sun for example. Could someone shed some light on this issue? Thanks and regards, Pratap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Dear Pratap, Yes, for timing of the event we use only AD, but MD does play a role albeit a lesser role. MD is generally connected to the LoA or SD to LoA. MD period is too long to be considered for timing, but it gives a view of the main focus areas of life. Read the lessons dealing with blind chart analysis. You will get a better picture on how it is being used. Many past posts of Ash/Krushnaji have also dealt with this matter in detail. Many archived posts are there in files section. Download them and read through. Many questions will automatically get answered and you will also learn things for which you might not have questions at present. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " pkaneria " <pkaneria wrote: > > Dear All, > > At current level of my understanding of KAS, I see that antara lord is > involved in identifying the houses that will give results. But how > about the involvment of MD lord? It is seems improbable that an antara > lord will give the same results under any MD lord. What I mean to say > is that Rahu/Sun results are unlikely to be very similar to Moon/Sun > for example. > > Could someone shed some light on this issue? > > Thanks and regards, > > Pratap > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Dear Manu, Yes. I have started reading all the messages right from the beginning. But meanwhile I was looking at the time period of my speculation losses during the market crash. I was wiped out between nov 99 and mar 01 and I was running Rahu/Merc during this period. What I don't understand is that in view of the fact that Me has more than 12 points in all houses, why would I get such a drastic negative result! I am not able to come up with any explanation with my limited knowledge. Do you see anything? Regards, Pratap , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Pratap, > > Yes, for timing of the event we use only AD, but MD does play a role > albeit a lesser role. MD is generally connected to the LoA or SD to > LoA. MD period is too long to be considered for timing, but it gives a > view of the main focus areas of life. Read the lessons dealing with > blind chart analysis. You will get a better picture on how it is being > used. Many past posts of Ash/Krushnaji have also dealt with this > matter in detail. Many archived posts are there in files section. > Download them and read through. Many questions will automatically get > answered and you will also learn things for which you might not have > questions at present. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > > , " pkaneria " > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > At current level of my understanding of KAS, I see that antara lord is > > involved in identifying the houses that will give results. But how > > about the involvment of MD lord? It is seems improbable that an antara > > lord will give the same results under any MD lord. What I mean to say > > is that Rahu/Sun results are unlikely to be very similar to Moon/Sun > > for example. > > > > Could someone shed some light on this issue? > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > Pratap > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Dear Pratap, I would like to make you understand according to my limited knowledge and understanding. I may be wrong also but it is necessary for me to catch hold of KAS. Our senior members may come forward wherever I am wrong and correct me. As you asked about the role of MD, I am trying to put it out on my own way. As everybody knows role of MD is very important at par with antardasa. MD lord gives the karkatwa of houses for which it is karaka. Say in this chart Ra is placed in lagna so it is karaka for 6th house. Ra will give the karkakatwa of 6th house.If the karaka is weak then the native does not get the good result during the antara of houses for which main lord is karaka.Now Ra is also SD to Ju and Ju has lordship of 7th and 10th house therefore Ra becomes karaka of 3rd and 12th house also. Since Ju is with more than 4 bindus in 4th house so it becomes karaka of 9th house also. Therefore after composing we get that Ra will show the karakatwas of 3rd, 6th,9th and 12th house. Now during the main period of Ra the antara of Me was running from Nov 1999 thru Jun 2002. Me is strong in all houses but what is the status of Ra. Since Ra represents Ju, I found it from the WS that Ju is weak in 3rd, 4th, 6th, 8th and 12th house. Me is LoD/LoE for 4th, 7th, 8th and 11th house. Me is also SD to Su and Ju. Su is LoD for 6th house and LoE for 10th house and Su is strong in these two houses but Ju is weak in 6th house though strong in 10th house You might have experienced favourable result for 10th house matter. One more very important thing I missed to mention that if Main lord is unfavourable and antara lord is favourable then the native will get favourable result and secondly when main lord dasa is favourable and antara lord dasa is unfavourable means the native will experience unfavourable result. So the period of antara lord dominates. I think this is enough for you to understand.Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra pkaneria <pkaneria wrote: Dear Manu, Yes. I have started reading all the messages right from the beginning. But meanwhile I was looking at the time period of my speculation losses during the market crash. I was wiped out between nov 99 and mar 01 and I was running Rahu/Merc during this period. What I don't understand is that in view of the fact that Me has more than 12 points in all houses, why would I get such a drastic negative result! I am not able to come up with any explanation with my limited knowledge. Do you see anything? Regards, Pratap , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Pratap, > > Yes, for timing of the event we use only AD, but MD does play a role > albeit a lesser role. MD is generally connected to the LoA or SD to > LoA. MD period is too long to be considered for timing, but it gives a > view of the main focus areas of life. Read the lessons dealing with > blind chart analysis. You will get a better picture on how it is being > used. Many past posts of Ash/Krushnaji have also dealt with this > matter in detail. Many archived posts are there in files section. > Download them and read through. Many questions will automatically get > answered and you will also learn things for which you might not have > questions at present. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > > , " pkaneria " > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > At current level of my understanding of KAS, I see that antara lord is > > involved in identifying the houses that will give results. But how > > about the involvment of MD lord? It is seems improbable that an antara > > lord will give the same results under any MD lord. What I mean to say > > is that Rahu/Sun results are unlikely to be very similar to Moon/Sun > > for example. > > > > Could someone shed some light on this issue? > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > Pratap > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Dear Pratapji, Ok...I think here is one example of a situation that one cannot use rules in isolation. You need to see the complete chart. True that me have high points everywhere for all houses for me, but see whom is me acting like (samdharmi to). Here, me is placed in 6th house with the 6th lord ma. Me is also lord of 12th from B with B considered as 5th house. Interesting thing to note is that it is also SD to ju, which is LoE. So, me is eager but is malefic for 5th house results. So, higher the points, the worse the results will be. Also, check your status of 5th house. Lord of 5th and lord of 11th are ma and ve. There are in 2:12 placement from each other. Not very good for 5th house results. Speculation in Sa antra might give much better results. Also, check sa+ju during that period. You will see things becoming clear. Hope that helps. As an aside, have you changed many jobs in your life? Thanks & Regards, Manu , " pkaneria " <pkaneria wrote: > > Dear Manu, > > Yes. I have started reading all the messages right from the > beginning. But meanwhile I was looking at the time period of my > speculation losses during the market crash. I was wiped out between > nov 99 and mar 01 and I was running Rahu/Merc during this period. > What I don't understand is that in view of the fact that Me has more > than 12 points in all houses, why would I get such a drastic > negative result! I am not able to come up with any explanation with > my limited knowledge. Do you see anything? > > Regards, > > Pratap > > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > Yes, for timing of the event we use only AD, but MD does play a > role > > albeit a lesser role. MD is generally connected to the LoA or SD to > > LoA. MD period is too long to be considered for timing, but it > gives a > > view of the main focus areas of life. Read the lessons dealing with > > blind chart analysis. You will get a better picture on how it is > being > > used. Many past posts of Ash/Krushnaji have also dealt with this > > matter in detail. Many archived posts are there in files section. > > Download them and read through. Many questions will automatically > get > > answered and you will also learn things for which you might not > have > > questions at present. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > At current level of my understanding of KAS, I see that antara > lord is > > > involved in identifying the houses that will give results. But > how > > > about the involvment of MD lord? It is seems improbable that an > antara > > > lord will give the same results under any MD lord. What I mean > to say > > > is that Rahu/Sun results are unlikely to be very similar to > Moon/Sun > > > for example. > > > > > > Could someone shed some light on this issue? > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Dear Manu/Ramesh, First I like to confirm a couple of things that you have correctly identified. 1. Rahu/Saturn period was the best financially. Made fabulous speculation profits and job income was highest in my career. 2. Yes. I have had at least 10 to 12 jobs in my career. I will need time to fully comprehend the analysis you and Ramesh has presented. I sincerely want to thank both of you for taking time out to help me learn KAS. Regards, Pratap , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Pratapji, > > Ok...I think here is one example of a situation that one cannot use > rules in isolation. You need to see the complete chart. True that me > have high points everywhere for all houses for me, but see whom is me > acting like (samdharmi to). > > Here, me is placed in 6th house with the 6th lord ma. Me is also lord > of 12th from B with B considered as 5th house. Interesting thing to > note is that it is also SD to ju, which is LoE. So, me is eager but is > malefic for 5th house results. So, higher the points, the worse the > results will be. Also, check your status of 5th house. Lord of 5th and > lord of 11th are ma and ve. There are in 2:12 placement from each > other. Not very good for 5th house results. Speculation in Sa antra > might give much better results. > > Also, check sa+ju during that period. You will see things becoming clear. > > Hope that helps. > > As an aside, have you changed many jobs in your life? > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > , " pkaneria " > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > Yes. I have started reading all the messages right from the > > beginning. But meanwhile I was looking at the time period of my > > speculation losses during the market crash. I was wiped out between > > nov 99 and mar 01 and I was running Rahu/Merc during this period. > > What I don't understand is that in view of the fact that Me has more > > than 12 points in all houses, why would I get such a drastic > > negative result! I am not able to come up with any explanation with > > my limited knowledge. Do you see anything? > > > > Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > Yes, for timing of the event we use only AD, but MD does play a > > role > > > albeit a lesser role. MD is generally connected to the LoA or SD to > > > LoA. MD period is too long to be considered for timing, but it > > gives a > > > view of the main focus areas of life. Read the lessons dealing with > > > blind chart analysis. You will get a better picture on how it is > > being > > > used. Many past posts of Ash/Krushnaji have also dealt with this > > > matter in detail. Many archived posts are there in files section. > > > Download them and read through. Many questions will automatically > > get > > > answered and you will also learn things for which you might not > > have > > > questions at present. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > At current level of my understanding of KAS, I see that antara > > lord is > > > > involved in identifying the houses that will give results. But > > how > > > > about the involvment of MD lord? It is seems improbable that an > > antara > > > > lord will give the same results under any MD lord. What I mean > > to say > > > > is that Rahu/Sun results are unlikely to be very similar to > > Moon/Sun > > > > for example. > > > > > > > > Could someone shed some light on this issue? > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Dear Ramesh and Manu, Well done. Congratulations on your good attempts. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " pkaneria " <pkaneria wrote: > > Dear Manu/Ramesh, > > First I like to confirm a couple of things that you have correctly > identified. 1. Rahu/Saturn period was the best financially. Made > fabulous speculation profits and job income was highest in my > career. 2. Yes. I have had at least 10 to 12 jobs in my career. > > I will need time to fully comprehend the analysis you and Ramesh has > presented. I sincerely want to thank both of you for taking time out > to help me learn KAS. > > Regards, > > Pratap > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pratapji, > > > > Ok...I think here is one example of a situation that one cannot use > > rules in isolation. You need to see the complete chart. True that > me > > have high points everywhere for all houses for me, but see whom is > me > > acting like (samdharmi to). > > > > Here, me is placed in 6th house with the 6th lord ma. Me is also > lord > > of 12th from B with B considered as 5th house. Interesting thing to > > note is that it is also SD to ju, which is LoE. So, me is eager > but is > > malefic for 5th house results. So, higher the points, the worse the > > results will be. Also, check your status of 5th house. Lord of 5th > and > > lord of 11th are ma and ve. There are in 2:12 placement from each > > other. Not very good for 5th house results. Speculation in Sa antra > > might give much better results. > > > > Also, check sa+ju during that period. You will see things becoming > clear. > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > As an aside, have you changed many jobs in your life? > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > , " pkaneria " > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > Yes. I have started reading all the messages right from the > > > beginning. But meanwhile I was looking at the time period of my > > > speculation losses during the market crash. I was wiped out > between > > > nov 99 and mar 01 and I was running Rahu/Merc during this > period. > > > What I don't understand is that in view of the fact that Me has > more > > > than 12 points in all houses, why would I get such a drastic > > > negative result! I am not able to come up with any explanation > with > > > my limited knowledge. Do you see anything? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > Yes, for timing of the event we use only AD, but MD does play > a > > > role > > > > albeit a lesser role. MD is generally connected to the LoA or > SD to > > > > LoA. MD period is too long to be considered for timing, but it > > > gives a > > > > view of the main focus areas of life. Read the lessons dealing > with > > > > blind chart analysis. You will get a better picture on how it > is > > > being > > > > used. Many past posts of Ash/Krushnaji have also dealt with > this > > > > matter in detail. Many archived posts are there in files > section. > > > > Download them and read through. Many questions will > automatically > > > get > > > > answered and you will also learn things for which you might > not > > > have > > > > questions at present. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pkaneria " > > > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > At current level of my understanding of KAS, I see that > antara > > > lord is > > > > > involved in identifying the houses that will give results. > But > > > how > > > > > about the involvment of MD lord? It is seems improbable that > an > > > antara > > > > > lord will give the same results under any MD lord. What I > mean > > > to say > > > > > is that Rahu/Sun results are unlikely to be very similar to > > > Moon/Sun > > > > > for example. > > > > > > > > > > Could someone shed some light on this issue? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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