Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Dear Ramesh, you said " Mo is in house A therefore Mo can not give the event. " There is no law like that (as far as I know). A planet is unable to give marriage when it ASPECTS house, A, B or C given that it is not LoD or LoE. Placement of a particular planet in these houses do not withhold the event. --Manoshi , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > Yes in the grooms chart.. he is going thru rahu antra which is > samdhari to moon and venus. venus is LoE for 7th house while moon is > the strongest significator for 7th house and second highest for 5th > and 12th. also for the 5th house venus is the karak while moon is with > jupiter in rasi hence its samdhari of loD for children(5th house) and > also venus which is samdhari to rahu happens to be with sun in rasi > and navamsa and hence samdhari to sun which is loE for 5th house. > venus one of the samdhari of rahu is weak in points for 5th 7th and > 12th but moon the other samdhari is very strong significator. > may be somewhere in lesson or archive its given too that if marriage > happens in rahu antra its a chance of getting concieved in same antra too. > so as Ashji pointed out for marriage of the girl in ketu antra and > getting concieved in the same antra falls in line. > i hope Manoshi would let us know the fact after the events. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala, Manu, Harjeet and all, > > I checked up the chart of groom. His chart does not show delay by > Sa but delay is due to Jup.Jup delay is nullified because of the > presence of blessings. > > This chart has one zero in SAV by Ma in 2nd house. So marriage may > happen in second sector. > > Su to Ve distance is < 3 deg which is only 23 min behind the Su. > Ve is weak in this chart compared to female chart. > > From lagna, Su, Mo and 7th from them is Ma/Ve in 5/9, Me/Ju in 6/8 > combination. Therefore only 30 points is accumulated. > > When you calculate the timing ,it is a case of marriage in normal > age which is 21 years for male chart.That time native was passing > through Su antara in Su main. > > Next Mo antara will follow. Mo is in house A therefore Mo can not > give the event. > > Next is Ma antara. Ma is 6th lord and occupies strongly with 6 > bindus in house E with Sa LoD. Ma is weak in WS for 7th so Ma will not > give the event. > > Next comes Ra antara. Ra is SD to Ve LoE. Ve is also LoB and > aspects house A . But Ve being LoE will dominate. Ve is also weak in > WS for 7th. So its SD is eager to give the result. > > Since their marriage is fixed in Feb 2007, Ra antara may perform > marriage in second sector i.e. before 20 Feb 2007. > > This TOB seems to be correct. I checked up the chart with Sg lagna > also but that is not matching according to consequences. > > Since Manoshi told it is love marriage. This chart is showing love > marriage whereas I did not find the love marriage in girl's chart. May > be I could not find out. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa@> wrote: > > Dear Hajeet, NS, Ramesh, Manu, and all, > > > > The native is getting married in Feb 2007, got engaged last month. > > So Mercury is giving marriage. (Why 3rd sector? dont know) 12th and > > 5th house dont get activated. BUT it is a love marriage. The couple > > know each other from a long time. One thing which may be important > > to know is that both charts match very well according to KAS. So, > > may be the attraction overrides some laws. (I remember Krushna ji > > saying that once). Ash can throw some light on this more. > > > > Grooms birth details: > > > > June 14th 1984 > > 17:07 hours > > 77E12, 28N36 > > > > --Manoshi > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Didi, > > > > > > I would tend to support Harjeet's analysis. There is blessing in > > the > > > chart too. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > I dont find any delays due to saturn and jupiter. > > > > although lord of 12th from B (6th) apsects house B, house C, loC, > > > > loE... but also loA is swagrahi and also happens to be LoB in A. > > > > there is blessings... lord of 1st and 9th house in rasi are in > > > > navpancham in navamsa. > > > > there are no zereos in the chart. > > > > so it shouldnt be a chart of delayed marriage... > > > > native might have married in the antra of mercury starting oct- > > 18-2204 > > > > onwards.. as mercury is the loE and the second strongest > > significator. > > > > may be around 28 jan - 9 feb 2005? > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > Try to time this female's marriage. Is she married? or is it a > > > delayed > > > > > marriage case? > > > > > > > > > > here are the details: > > > > > > > > > > 24th august 1984 > > > > > > > > > > 10:20 AM > > > > > > > > > > 25N27 > > > > > > > > > > 81E51 > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version > 8. Get it NOW > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Dear Manoshi, Thanks for bringing it out as i too thought till now that a planet if its in A, B or C or aspects that house cant give the result. ofcourse if its loD or LoE or there is a samdhari for it, is an exception. thanks/regards Harjeet , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > you said " Mo is in house A therefore Mo can not > give the event. " There is no law like that (as far as I know). A > planet is unable to give marriage when it ASPECTS house, A, B or C > given that it is not LoD or LoE. Placement of a particular planet in > these houses do not withhold the event. > > --Manoshi > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > Yes in the grooms chart.. he is going thru rahu antra which is > > samdhari to moon and venus. venus is LoE for 7th house while moon > is > > the strongest significator for 7th house and second highest for 5th > > and 12th. also for the 5th house venus is the karak while moon is > with > > jupiter in rasi hence its samdhari of loD for children(5th house) > and > > also venus which is samdhari to rahu happens to be with sun in rasi > > and navamsa and hence samdhari to sun which is loE for 5th house. > > venus one of the samdhari of rahu is weak in points for 5th 7th and > > 12th but moon the other samdhari is very strong significator. > > may be somewhere in lesson or archive its given too that if > marriage > > happens in rahu antra its a chance of getting concieved in same > antra too. > > so as Ashji pointed out for marriage of the girl in ketu antra and > > getting concieved in the same antra falls in line. > > i hope Manoshi would let us know the fact after the events. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala, Manu, Harjeet and all, > > > I checked up the chart of groom. His chart does not show delay > by > > Sa but delay is due to Jup.Jup delay is nullified because of the > > presence of blessings. > > > This chart has one zero in SAV by Ma in 2nd house. So marriage > may > > happen in second sector. > > > Su to Ve distance is < 3 deg which is only 23 min behind the > Su. > > Ve is weak in this chart compared to female chart. > > > From lagna, Su, Mo and 7th from them is Ma/Ve in 5/9, Me/Ju in > 6/8 > > combination. Therefore only 30 points is accumulated. > > > When you calculate the timing ,it is a case of marriage in > normal > > age which is 21 years for male chart.That time native was passing > > through Su antara in Su main. > > > Next Mo antara will follow. Mo is in house A therefore Mo can > not > > give the event. > > > Next is Ma antara. Ma is 6th lord and occupies strongly with 6 > > bindus in house E with Sa LoD. Ma is weak in WS for 7th so Ma will > not > > give the event. > > > Next comes Ra antara. Ra is SD to Ve LoE. Ve is also LoB and > > aspects house A . But Ve being LoE will dominate. Ve is also weak > in > > WS for 7th. So its SD is eager to give the result. > > > Since their marriage is fixed in Feb 2007, Ra antara may > perform > > marriage in second sector i.e. before 20 Feb 2007. > > > This TOB seems to be correct. I checked up the chart with Sg > lagna > > also but that is not matching according to consequences. > > > Since Manoshi told it is love marriage. This chart is showing > love > > marriage whereas I did not find the love marriage in girl's chart. > May > > be I could not find out. > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > Dear Hajeet, NS, Ramesh, Manu, and all, > > > > > > The native is getting married in Feb 2007, got engaged last > month. > > > So Mercury is giving marriage. (Why 3rd sector? dont know) 12th > and > > > 5th house dont get activated. BUT it is a love marriage. The > couple > > > know each other from a long time. One thing which may be > important > > > to know is that both charts match very well according to KAS. > So, > > > may be the attraction overrides some laws. (I remember Krushna > ji > > > saying that once). Ash can throw some light on this more. > > > > > > Grooms birth details: > > > > > > June 14th 1984 > > > 17:07 hours > > > 77E12, 28N36 > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Didi, > > > > > > > > I would tend to support Harjeet's analysis. There is blessing > in > > > the > > > > chart too. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > I dont find any delays due to saturn and jupiter. > > > > > although lord of 12th from B (6th) apsects house B, house C, > loC, > > > > > loE... but also loA is swagrahi and also happens to be LoB > in A. > > > > > there is blessings... lord of 1st and 9th house in rasi are > in > > > > > navpancham in navamsa. > > > > > there are no zereos in the chart. > > > > > so it shouldnt be a chart of delayed marriage... > > > > > native might have married in the antra of mercury starting > oct- > > > 18-2204 > > > > > onwards.. as mercury is the loE and the second strongest > > > significator. > > > > > may be around 28 jan - 9 feb 2005? > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Try to time this female's marriage. Is she married? or is > it a > > > > delayed > > > > > > marriage case? > > > > > > > > > > > > here are the details: > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th august 1984 > > > > > > > > > > > > 10:20 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > 25N27 > > > > > > > > > > > > 81E51 > > > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > Version > > 8. Get it NOW > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Dear Harjeet, A slight correction and I thiknk thats what you meant. i.e If a planet aspecting house A,B or C IS SD TO A POWREFUL PLANET in that case, it can be deputed to give the result. So here it wont act on its own to give result, but it will act for the powerful planet for who it is representing. Similalry keep NSD in mind also. Say, for example, Ju is in 7th house and Ma is in 4th house with 3 bindus and Ju is with 6 bindus. So here Mars aspects House C and B=7 and Ju aspects House C. So, say in Mars MD starts in delay period, then in that case say delay period is on in mars antra and then rahu antra so when Ju antra comes then Ju can give result despite it aspects house C (ofcouse keeping all our laws in mind) and this is due to fact that its SD to powerful Mars who's antra is over, so Ju will act and step in for Mars and furnish the result. Ofcouse here assume Mars or Ju is not 6th lord, ju is not in libra etc etc etc. I hope that clarifies. Plantes in House A,B or C can give result, planets Aspecting A,B, C dont give result. Yes, for Ju and Mars u have to be more careful, when they are placed in House B. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Manoshi, > Thanks for bringing it out as i too thought till now that a planet if > its in A, B or C or aspects that house cant give the result. ofcourse > if its loD or LoE or there is a samdhari for it, is an exception. > thanks/regards > Harjeet > > , " Manoshi Chatterjee " > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > you said " Mo is in house A therefore Mo can not > > give the event. " There is no law like that (as far as I know). A > > planet is unable to give marriage when it ASPECTS house, A, B or C > > given that it is not LoD or LoE. Placement of a particular planet in > > these houses do not withhold the event. > > > > --Manoshi > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > Yes in the grooms chart.. he is going thru rahu antra which is > > > samdhari to moon and venus. venus is LoE for 7th house while moon > > is > > > the strongest significator for 7th house and second highest for 5th > > > and 12th. also for the 5th house venus is the karak while moon is > > with > > > jupiter in rasi hence its samdhari of loD for children(5th house) > > and > > > also venus which is samdhari to rahu happens to be with sun in rasi > > > and navamsa and hence samdhari to sun which is loE for 5th house. > > > venus one of the samdhari of rahu is weak in points for 5th 7th and > > > 12th but moon the other samdhari is very strong significator. > > > may be somewhere in lesson or archive its given too that if > > marriage > > > happens in rahu antra its a chance of getting concieved in same > > antra too. > > > so as Ashji pointed out for marriage of the girl in ketu antra and > > > getting concieved in the same antra falls in line. > > > i hope Manoshi would let us know the fact after the events. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala, Manu, Harjeet and all, > > > > I checked up the chart of groom. His chart does not show delay > > by > > > Sa but delay is due to Jup.Jup delay is nullified because of the > > > presence of blessings. > > > > This chart has one zero in SAV by Ma in 2nd house. So marriage > > may > > > happen in second sector. > > > > Su to Ve distance is < 3 deg which is only 23 min behind the > > Su. > > > Ve is weak in this chart compared to female chart. > > > > From lagna, Su, Mo and 7th from them is Ma/Ve in 5/9, Me/Ju in > > 6/8 > > > combination. Therefore only 30 points is accumulated. > > > > When you calculate the timing ,it is a case of marriage in > > normal > > > age which is 21 years for male chart.That time native was passing > > > through Su antara in Su main. > > > > Next Mo antara will follow. Mo is in house A therefore Mo can > > not > > > give the event. > > > > Next is Ma antara. Ma is 6th lord and occupies strongly with 6 > > > bindus in house E with Sa LoD. Ma is weak in WS for 7th so Ma will > > not > > > give the event. > > > > Next comes Ra antara. Ra is SD to Ve LoE. Ve is also LoB and > > > aspects house A . But Ve being LoE will dominate. Ve is also weak > > in > > > WS for 7th. So its SD is eager to give the result. > > > > Since their marriage is fixed in Feb 2007, Ra antara may > > perform > > > marriage in second sector i.e. before 20 Feb 2007. > > > > This TOB seems to be correct. I checked up the chart with Sg > > lagna > > > also but that is not matching according to consequences. > > > > Since Manoshi told it is love marriage. This chart is showing > > love > > > marriage whereas I did not find the love marriage in girl's chart. > > May > > > be I could not find out. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > Dear Hajeet, NS, Ramesh, Manu, and all, > > > > > > > > The native is getting married in Feb 2007, got engaged last > > month. > > > > So Mercury is giving marriage. (Why 3rd sector? dont know) 12th > > and > > > > 5th house dont get activated. BUT it is a love marriage. The > > couple > > > > know each other from a long time. One thing which may be > > important > > > > to know is that both charts match very well according to KAS. > > So, > > > > may be the attraction overrides some laws. (I remember Krushna > > ji > > > > saying that once). Ash can throw some light on this more. > > > > > > > > Grooms birth details: > > > > > > > > June 14th 1984 > > > > 17:07 hours > > > > 77E12, 28N36 > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Didi, > > > > > > > > > > I would tend to support Harjeet's analysis. There is blessing > > in > > > > the > > > > > chart too. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > I dont find any delays due to saturn and jupiter. > > > > > > although lord of 12th from B (6th) apsects house B, house C, > > loC, > > > > > > loE... but also loA is swagrahi and also happens to be LoB > > in A. > > > > > > there is blessings... lord of 1st and 9th house in rasi are > > in > > > > > > navpancham in navamsa. > > > > > > there are no zereos in the chart. > > > > > > so it shouldnt be a chart of delayed marriage... > > > > > > native might have married in the antra of mercury starting > > oct- > > > > 18-2204 > > > > > > onwards.. as mercury is the loE and the second strongest > > > > significator. > > > > > > may be around 28 jan - 9 feb 2005? > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > --- In , " Manoshi > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try to time this female's marriage. Is she married? or is > > it a > > > > > delayed > > > > > > > marriage case? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here are the details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th august 1984 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10:20 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25N27 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 81E51 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > > Version > > > 8. Get it NOW > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Thanks very much Ashji for the explanation. Now its clear that planets in A B or C can give result. exceptions like if its jupiter in B it would be aspecting C while mars in B would be aspecting A... similarly saturn in A wont give the result as it aspects C too unless they are samdhari to LoD or LoE or samdhari to powerful significator for that house.... One more question what if the planet which is samdhari to powerful significator or loD or LoE is weak in points in WS itself ? would it deliver the result ? if not should it have >= 12 points aleast? I hope i am not ambiguious. thanks/regards harjeet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > A slight correction and I thiknk thats what you meant. > > i.e If a planet aspecting house A,B or C IS SD TO A POWREFUL PLANET > in that case, it can be deputed to give the result. So here it wont > act on its own to give result, but it will act for the powerful > planet for who it is representing. Similalry keep NSD in mind > also. > > Say, for example, Ju is in 7th house and Ma is in 4th house with 3 > bindus and Ju is with 6 bindus. So here Mars aspects House C and > B=7 and Ju aspects House C. So, say in Mars MD starts in delay > period, then in that case say delay period is on in mars antra and > then rahu antra so when Ju antra comes then Ju can give result > despite it aspects house C (ofcouse keeping all our laws in mind) > and this is due to fact that its SD to powerful Mars who's antra is > over, so Ju will act and step in for Mars and furnish the result. > > Ofcouse here assume Mars or Ju is not 6th lord, ju is not in libra > etc etc etc. > > I hope that clarifies. > > Plantes in House A,B or C can give result, planets Aspecting A,B, C > dont give result. Yes, for Ju and Mars u have to be more careful, > when they are placed in House B. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > Thanks for bringing it out as i too thought till now that a planet > if > > its in A, B or C or aspects that house cant give the result. > ofcourse > > if its loD or LoE or there is a samdhari for it, is an exception. > > thanks/regards > > Harjeet > > > > , " Manoshi > Chatterjee " > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > you said " Mo is in house A therefore Mo can not > > > give the event. " There is no law like that (as far as I know). A > > > planet is unable to give marriage when it ASPECTS house, A, B or > C > > > given that it is not LoD or LoE. Placement of a particular > planet in > > > these houses do not withhold the event. > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > --- In > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Yes in the grooms chart.. he is going thru rahu antra which is > > > > samdhari to moon and venus. venus is LoE for 7th house while > moon > > > is > > > > the strongest significator for 7th house and second highest > for 5th > > > > and 12th. also for the 5th house venus is the karak while moon > is > > > with > > > > jupiter in rasi hence its samdhari of loD for children(5th > house) > > > and > > > > also venus which is samdhari to rahu happens to be with sun in > rasi > > > > and navamsa and hence samdhari to sun which is loE for 5th > house. > > > > venus one of the samdhari of rahu is weak in points for 5th > 7th and > > > > 12th but moon the other samdhari is very strong significator. > > > > may be somewhere in lesson or archive its given too that if > > > marriage > > > > happens in rahu antra its a chance of getting concieved in > same > > > antra too. > > > > so as Ashji pointed out for marriage of the girl in ketu antra > and > > > > getting concieved in the same antra falls in line. > > > > i hope Manoshi would let us know the fact after the events. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala, Manu, Harjeet and all, > > > > > I checked up the chart of groom. His chart does not show > delay > > > by > > > > Sa but delay is due to Jup.Jup delay is nullified because of > the > > > > presence of blessings. > > > > > This chart has one zero in SAV by Ma in 2nd house. So > marriage > > > may > > > > happen in second sector. > > > > > Su to Ve distance is < 3 deg which is only 23 min behind > the > > > Su. > > > > Ve is weak in this chart compared to female chart. > > > > > From lagna, Su, Mo and 7th from them is Ma/Ve in 5/9, > Me/Ju in > > > 6/8 > > > > combination. Therefore only 30 points is accumulated. > > > > > When you calculate the timing ,it is a case of marriage in > > > normal > > > > age which is 21 years for male chart.That time native was > passing > > > > through Su antara in Su main. > > > > > Next Mo antara will follow. Mo is in house A therefore Mo > can > > > not > > > > give the event. > > > > > Next is Ma antara. Ma is 6th lord and occupies strongly > with 6 > > > > bindus in house E with Sa LoD. Ma is weak in WS for 7th so Ma > will > > > not > > > > give the event. > > > > > Next comes Ra antara. Ra is SD to Ve LoE. Ve is also LoB > and > > > > aspects house A . But Ve being LoE will dominate. Ve is also > weak > > > in > > > > WS for 7th. So its SD is eager to give the result. > > > > > Since their marriage is fixed in Feb 2007, Ra antara may > > > perform > > > > marriage in second sector i.e. before 20 Feb 2007. > > > > > This TOB seems to be correct. I checked up the chart with > Sg > > > lagna > > > > also but that is not matching according to consequences. > > > > > Since Manoshi told it is love marriage. This chart is > showing > > > love > > > > marriage whereas I did not find the love marriage in girl's > chart. > > > May > > > > be I could not find out. > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Hajeet, NS, Ramesh, Manu, and all, > > > > > > > > > > The native is getting married in Feb 2007, got engaged last > > > month. > > > > > So Mercury is giving marriage. (Why 3rd sector? dont know) > 12th > > > and > > > > > 5th house dont get activated. BUT it is a love marriage. The > > > couple > > > > > know each other from a long time. One thing which may be > > > important > > > > > to know is that both charts match very well according to > KAS. > > > So, > > > > > may be the attraction overrides some laws. (I remember > Krushna > > > ji > > > > > saying that once). Ash can throw some light on this more. > > > > > > > > > > Grooms birth details: > > > > > > > > > > June 14th 1984 > > > > > 17:07 hours > > > > > 77E12, 28N36 > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > Batura " > > > > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Didi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would tend to support Harjeet's analysis. There is > blessing > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > chart too. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > > I dont find any delays due to saturn and jupiter. > > > > > > > although lord of 12th from B (6th) apsects house B, > house C, > > > loC, > > > > > > > loE... but also loA is swagrahi and also happens to be > LoB > > > in A. > > > > > > > there is blessings... lord of 1st and 9th house in rasi > are > > > in > > > > > > > navpancham in navamsa. > > > > > > > there are no zereos in the chart. > > > > > > > so it shouldnt be a chart of delayed marriage... > > > > > > > native might have married in the antra of mercury > starting > > > oct- > > > > > 18-2204 > > > > > > > onwards.. as mercury is the loE and the second strongest > > > > > significator. > > > > > > > may be around 28 jan - 9 feb 2005? > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > --- In > , " Manoshi > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try to time this female's marriage. Is she married? or > is > > > it a > > > > > > delayed > > > > > > > > marriage case? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here are the details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th august 1984 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10:20 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25N27 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 81E51 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers > India > > > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > > > Version > > > > 8. Get it NOW > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Dear Harjeet, If memory serves me right, I have written a long post on this same quetsion you have asked. I think someone had asked me that and I had explained it. Look it up, and post the link for others. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Thanks very much Ashji for the explanation. Now its clear that planets > in A B or C can give result. exceptions like if its jupiter in B it > would be aspecting C while mars in B would be aspecting A... similarly > saturn in A wont give the result as it aspects C too unless they are > samdhari to LoD or LoE or samdhari to powerful significator for that > house.... > > One more question what if the planet which is samdhari to powerful > significator or loD or LoE is weak in points in WS itself ? would it > deliver the result ? if not should it have >= 12 points aleast? > I hope i am not ambiguious. > > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > A slight correction and I thiknk thats what you meant. > > > > i.e If a planet aspecting house A,B or C IS SD TO A POWREFUL PLANET > > in that case, it can be deputed to give the result. So here it wont > > act on its own to give result, but it will act for the powerful > > planet for who it is representing. Similalry keep NSD in mind > > also. > > > > Say, for example, Ju is in 7th house and Ma is in 4th house with 3 > > bindus and Ju is with 6 bindus. So here Mars aspects House C and > > B=7 and Ju aspects House C. So, say in Mars MD starts in delay > > period, then in that case say delay period is on in mars antra and > > then rahu antra so when Ju antra comes then Ju can give result > > despite it aspects house C (ofcouse keeping all our laws in mind) > > and this is due to fact that its SD to powerful Mars who's antra is > > over, so Ju will act and step in for Mars and furnish the result. > > > > Ofcouse here assume Mars or Ju is not 6th lord, ju is not in libra > > etc etc etc. > > > > I hope that clarifies. > > > > Plantes in House A,B or C can give result, planets Aspecting A,B, C > > dont give result. Yes, for Ju and Mars u have to be more careful, > > when they are placed in House B. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > Thanks for bringing it out as i too thought till now that a planet > > if > > > its in A, B or C or aspects that house cant give the result. > > ofcourse > > > if its loD or LoE or there is a samdhari for it, is an exception. > > > thanks/regards > > > Harjeet > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > Chatterjee " > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > you said " Mo is in house A therefore Mo can not > > > > give the event. " There is no law like that (as far as I know). A > > > > planet is unable to give marriage when it ASPECTS house, A, B or > > C > > > > given that it is not LoD or LoE. Placement of a particular > > planet in > > > > these houses do not withhold the event. > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > Yes in the grooms chart.. he is going thru rahu antra which is > > > > > samdhari to moon and venus. venus is LoE for 7th house while > > moon > > > > is > > > > > the strongest significator for 7th house and second highest > > for 5th > > > > > and 12th. also for the 5th house venus is the karak while moon > > is > > > > with > > > > > jupiter in rasi hence its samdhari of loD for children(5th > > house) > > > > and > > > > > also venus which is samdhari to rahu happens to be with sun in > > rasi > > > > > and navamsa and hence samdhari to sun which is loE for 5th > > house. > > > > > venus one of the samdhari of rahu is weak in points for 5th > > 7th and > > > > > 12th but moon the other samdhari is very strong significator. > > > > > may be somewhere in lesson or archive its given too that if > > > > marriage > > > > > happens in rahu antra its a chance of getting concieved in > > same > > > > antra too. > > > > > so as Ashji pointed out for marriage of the girl in ketu antra > > and > > > > > getting concieved in the same antra falls in line. > > > > > i hope Manoshi would let us know the fact after the events. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala, Manu, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > I checked up the chart of groom. His chart does not show > > delay > > > > by > > > > > Sa but delay is due to Jup.Jup delay is nullified because of > > the > > > > > presence of blessings. > > > > > > This chart has one zero in SAV by Ma in 2nd house. So > > marriage > > > > may > > > > > happen in second sector. > > > > > > Su to Ve distance is < 3 deg which is only 23 min behind > > the > > > > Su. > > > > > Ve is weak in this chart compared to female chart. > > > > > > From lagna, Su, Mo and 7th from them is Ma/Ve in 5/9, > > Me/Ju in > > > > 6/8 > > > > > combination. Therefore only 30 points is accumulated. > > > > > > When you calculate the timing ,it is a case of marriage in > > > > normal > > > > > age which is 21 years for male chart.That time native was > > passing > > > > > through Su antara in Su main. > > > > > > Next Mo antara will follow. Mo is in house A therefore Mo > > can > > > > not > > > > > give the event. > > > > > > Next is Ma antara. Ma is 6th lord and occupies strongly > > with 6 > > > > > bindus in house E with Sa LoD. Ma is weak in WS for 7th so Ma > > will > > > > not > > > > > give the event. > > > > > > Next comes Ra antara. Ra is SD to Ve LoE. Ve is also LoB > > and > > > > > aspects house A . But Ve being LoE will dominate. Ve is also > > weak > > > > in > > > > > WS for 7th. So its SD is eager to give the result. > > > > > > Since their marriage is fixed in Feb 2007, Ra antara may > > > > perform > > > > > marriage in second sector i.e. before 20 Feb 2007. > > > > > > This TOB seems to be correct. I checked up the chart with > > Sg > > > > lagna > > > > > also but that is not matching according to consequences. > > > > > > Since Manoshi told it is love marriage. This chart is > > showing > > > > love > > > > > marriage whereas I did not find the love marriage in girl's > > chart. > > > > May > > > > > be I could not find out. > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Hajeet, NS, Ramesh, Manu, and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > The native is getting married in Feb 2007, got engaged last > > > > month. > > > > > > So Mercury is giving marriage. (Why 3rd sector? dont know) > > 12th > > > > and > > > > > > 5th house dont get activated. BUT it is a love marriage. The > > > > couple > > > > > > know each other from a long time. One thing which may be > > > > important > > > > > > to know is that both charts match very well according to > > KAS. > > > > So, > > > > > > may be the attraction overrides some laws. (I remember > > Krushna > > > > ji > > > > > > saying that once). Ash can throw some light on this more. > > > > > > > > > > > > Grooms birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > June 14th 1984 > > > > > > 17:07 hours > > > > > > 77E12, 28N36 > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > Batura " > > > > > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Didi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would tend to support Harjeet's analysis. There is > > blessing > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > chart too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > > > I dont find any delays due to saturn and jupiter. > > > > > > > > although lord of 12th from B (6th) apsects house B, > > house C, > > > > loC, > > > > > > > > loE... but also loA is swagrahi and also happens to be > > LoB > > > > in A. > > > > > > > > there is blessings... lord of 1st and 9th house in rasi > > are > > > > in > > > > > > > > navpancham in navamsa. > > > > > > > > there are no zereos in the chart. > > > > > > > > so it shouldnt be a chart of delayed marriage... > > > > > > > > native might have married in the antra of mercury > > starting > > > > oct- > > > > > > 18-2204 > > > > > > > > onwards.. as mercury is the loE and the second strongest > > > > > > significator. > > > > > > > > may be around 28 jan - 9 feb 2005? > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " Manoshi > > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try to time this female's marriage. Is she married? or > > is > > > > it a > > > > > > > delayed > > > > > > > > > marriage case? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here are the details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th august 1984 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10:20 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25N27 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 81E51 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers > > India > > > > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger > > > > Version > > > > > 8. Get it NOW > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 alright i would try to find it, thanks/regards harjeet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > If memory serves me right, I have written a long post on this same > quetsion you have asked. I think someone had asked me that and I > had explained it. > Look it up, and post the link for others. > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Thanks very much Ashji for the explanation. Now its clear that > planets > > in A B or C can give result. exceptions like if its jupiter in B it > > would be aspecting C while mars in B would be aspecting A... > similarly > > saturn in A wont give the result as it aspects C too unless they > are > > samdhari to LoD or LoE or samdhari to powerful significator for > that > > house.... > > > > One more question what if the planet which is samdhari to powerful > > significator or loD or LoE is weak in points in WS itself ? would > it > > deliver the result ? if not should it have >= 12 points aleast? > > I hope i am not ambiguious. > > > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > A slight correction and I thiknk thats what you meant. > > > > > > i.e If a planet aspecting house A,B or C IS SD TO A POWREFUL > PLANET > > > in that case, it can be deputed to give the result. So here it > wont > > > act on its own to give result, but it will act for the powerful > > > planet for who it is representing. Similalry keep NSD in mind > > > also. > > > > > > Say, for example, Ju is in 7th house and Ma is in 4th house with > 3 > > > bindus and Ju is with 6 bindus. So here Mars aspects House C > and > > > B=7 and Ju aspects House C. So, say in Mars MD starts in delay > > > period, then in that case say delay period is on in mars antra > and > > > then rahu antra so when Ju antra comes then Ju can give result > > > despite it aspects house C (ofcouse keeping all our laws in > mind) > > > and this is due to fact that its SD to powerful Mars who's antra > is > > > over, so Ju will act and step in for Mars and furnish the result. > > > > > > Ofcouse here assume Mars or Ju is not 6th lord, ju is not in > libra > > > etc etc etc. > > > > > > I hope that clarifies. > > > > > > Plantes in House A,B or C can give result, planets Aspecting > A,B, C > > > dont give result. Yes, for Ju and Mars u have to be more > careful, > > > when they are placed in House B. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > --- In > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > Thanks for bringing it out as i too thought till now that a > planet > > > if > > > > its in A, B or C or aspects that house cant give the result. > > > ofcourse > > > > if its loD or LoE or there is a samdhari for it, is an > exception. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > , " Manoshi > > > Chatterjee " > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > you said " Mo is in house A therefore Mo can not > > > > > give the event. " There is no law like that (as far as I > know). A > > > > > planet is unable to give marriage when it ASPECTS house, A, > B or > > > C > > > > > given that it is not LoD or LoE. Placement of a particular > > > planet in > > > > > these houses do not withhold the event. > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > Yes in the grooms chart.. he is going thru rahu antra > which is > > > > > > samdhari to moon and venus. venus is LoE for 7th house > while > > > moon > > > > > is > > > > > > the strongest significator for 7th house and second > highest > > > for 5th > > > > > > and 12th. also for the 5th house venus is the karak while > moon > > > is > > > > > with > > > > > > jupiter in rasi hence its samdhari of loD for children(5th > > > house) > > > > > and > > > > > > also venus which is samdhari to rahu happens to be with > sun in > > > rasi > > > > > > and navamsa and hence samdhari to sun which is loE for 5th > > > house. > > > > > > venus one of the samdhari of rahu is weak in points for > 5th > > > 7th and > > > > > > 12th but moon the other samdhari is very strong > significator. > > > > > > may be somewhere in lesson or archive its given too that > if > > > > > marriage > > > > > > happens in rahu antra its a chance of getting concieved in > > > same > > > > > antra too. > > > > > > so as Ashji pointed out for marriage of the girl in ketu > antra > > > and > > > > > > getting concieved in the same antra falls in line. > > > > > > i hope Manoshi would let us know the fact after the events. > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh > mishra > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manoshi, Bala, Manu, Harjeet and all, > > > > > > > I checked up the chart of groom. His chart does not > show > > > delay > > > > > by > > > > > > Sa but delay is due to Jup.Jup delay is nullified because > of > > > the > > > > > > presence of blessings. > > > > > > > This chart has one zero in SAV by Ma in 2nd house. So > > > marriage > > > > > may > > > > > > happen in second sector. > > > > > > > Su to Ve distance is < 3 deg which is only 23 min > behind > > > the > > > > > Su. > > > > > > Ve is weak in this chart compared to female chart. > > > > > > > From lagna, Su, Mo and 7th from them is Ma/Ve in 5/9, > > > Me/Ju in > > > > > 6/8 > > > > > > combination. Therefore only 30 points is accumulated. > > > > > > > When you calculate the timing ,it is a case of > marriage in > > > > > normal > > > > > > age which is 21 years for male chart.That time native was > > > passing > > > > > > through Su antara in Su main. > > > > > > > Next Mo antara will follow. Mo is in house A therefore > Mo > > > can > > > > > not > > > > > > give the event. > > > > > > > Next is Ma antara. Ma is 6th lord and occupies > strongly > > > with 6 > > > > > > bindus in house E with Sa LoD. Ma is weak in WS for 7th so > Ma > > > will > > > > > not > > > > > > give the event. > > > > > > > Next comes Ra antara. Ra is SD to Ve LoE. Ve is also > LoB > > > and > > > > > > aspects house A . But Ve being LoE will dominate. Ve is > also > > > weak > > > > > in > > > > > > WS for 7th. So its SD is eager to give the result. > > > > > > > Since their marriage is fixed in Feb 2007, Ra antara > may > > > > > perform > > > > > > marriage in second sector i.e. before 20 Feb 2007. > > > > > > > This TOB seems to be correct. I checked up the chart > with > > > Sg > > > > > lagna > > > > > > also but that is not matching according to consequences. > > > > > > > Since Manoshi told it is love marriage. This chart is > > > showing > > > > > love > > > > > > marriage whereas I did not find the love marriage in > girl's > > > chart. > > > > > May > > > > > > be I could not find out. > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Hajeet, NS, Ramesh, Manu, and all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The native is getting married in Feb 2007, got engaged > last > > > > > month. > > > > > > > So Mercury is giving marriage. (Why 3rd sector? dont > know) > > > 12th > > > > > and > > > > > > > 5th house dont get activated. BUT it is a love marriage. > The > > > > > couple > > > > > > > know each other from a long time. One thing which may be > > > > > important > > > > > > > to know is that both charts match very well according to > > > KAS. > > > > > So, > > > > > > > may be the attraction overrides some laws. (I remember > > > Krushna > > > > > ji > > > > > > > saying that once). Ash can throw some light on this more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grooms birth details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > June 14th 1984 > > > > > > > 17:07 hours > > > > > > > 77E12, 28N36 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > Batura " > > > > > > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Didi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would tend to support Harjeet's analysis. There is > > > blessing > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > chart too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, > > > > > > > > > I dont find any delays due to saturn and jupiter. > > > > > > > > > although lord of 12th from B (6th) apsects house B, > > > house C, > > > > > loC, > > > > > > > > > loE... but also loA is swagrahi and also happens to > be > > > LoB > > > > > in A. > > > > > > > > > there is blessings... lord of 1st and 9th house in > rasi > > > are > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > navpancham in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > there are no zereos in the chart. > > > > > > > > > so it shouldnt be a chart of delayed marriage... > > > > > > > > > native might have married in the antra of mercury > > > starting > > > > > oct- > > > > > > > 18-2204 > > > > > > > > > onwards.. as mercury is the loE and the second > strongest > > > > > > > significator. > > > > > > > > > may be around 28 jan - 9 feb 2005? > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " Manoshi > > > > > > > Chatterjee " > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try to time this female's marriage. Is she > married? or > > > is > > > > > it a > > > > > > > > delayed > > > > > > > > > > marriage case? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here are the details: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th august 1984 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10:20 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 25N27 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 81E51 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on - > Answers > > > India > > > > > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from > Messenger > > > > > Version > > > > > > 8. Get it NOW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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