Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Hi Ash or Manu, I am trying to practically apply the principles given in the notes and have been confused. Until ofcourse I can practically apply them to my chart and know what they mean I think it would be hard for me to pick up the system. So I need your assistance and help in following a certain aspect of my chart so I can see what is the way to work through a particular chart. Consdering I want to see my marriage as to what period it will happen. I am trying to understand and (if Ive understood correctly) that one has to look at the 3,6,10th and 11th from the 7th house. So basically the upachaya from the 7th house and the planets or the lords of these houses. Then which ever is the strongest would yield the result provided this planet is not aspecting the signifactor houses. By the same token when I apply this to my chart (aries acedent) my 7th house is libra and hence so the 3rd to this is saggi (jupiter), 6th is piseas(again Jupiter) 10th cancer (moon) and 11th is leo (sun) but with jupiter situation in it with 5 bindus Now if I understand this system correctly, I turn to my workbook and click the Tab H7 in the excel file which apprently treats the 7th house as house B and gives the strengths of all the planets in which I see moon having the highest strength followed by jupiter, however jupiter aspects the 9th house with his 5th aspect which is the 3rd house from 7th (so a signifcator to the upachaya) hence that leaves moon to give the results. So does that mean I get married during moon dasa which does not make any sense since that would start in 2019 and I would be close to 40 years of age So can kindly someone walk me through the system on how to apply the rules in a step wise fashion rather than suggesting I turn to notes since I have and honestly a bit confused but would like to give this sytem an honest chance to learn and see its value and I need some practical feedback. P.S another point of confusion was when I was reading in the notes it said to study the matters of marrage to treat house 2 as house B or the main house and then see the upachayas from this house. I wonder which is right and which is wrong. So if someone can kindly guide it would be much appreciated. regards Amit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Another follow up to my pervious post. If I treat H2 as B for marriage, my 3rd is cancer (moon) 6th is (libra) 10 is cap and 11 is pices (jupiter) however looking at the strongest signifiactor amogest these which is venus (this is from the H2 tab in excel) again that period falls way beyond logical sense for my marriage. So that does not work either. , " planck12 " <planck12 wrote: > > Hi Ash or Manu, > I am trying to practically apply the principles given in the notes and > have been confused. Until ofcourse I can practically apply them to my > chart and know what they mean I think it would be hard for me to pick > up the system. > > So I need your assistance and help in following a certain aspect of my > chart so I can see what is the way to work through a particular chart. > > Consdering I want to see my marriage as to what period it will happen. > > I am trying to understand and (if Ive understood correctly) that one > has to look at the 3,6,10th and 11th from the 7th house. So basically > the upachaya from the 7th house and the planets or the lords of these > houses. Then which ever is the strongest would yield the result > provided this planet is not aspecting the signifactor houses. > > By the same token when I apply this to my chart (aries acedent) my 7th > house is libra and hence so the 3rd to this is saggi (jupiter), 6th is > piseas(again Jupiter) 10th cancer (moon) and 11th is leo (sun) but > with jupiter situation in it with 5 bindus > > Now if I understand this system correctly, I turn to my workbook and > click the Tab H7 in the excel file which apprently treats the 7th > house as house B and gives the strengths of all the planets in which I > see moon having the highest strength followed by jupiter, however > jupiter aspects the 9th house with his 5th aspect which is the 3rd > house from 7th (so a signifcator to the upachaya) hence that leaves > moon to give the results. > > So does that mean I get married during moon dasa which does not make > any sense since that would start in 2019 and I would be close to 40 > years of age > > So can kindly someone walk me through the system on how to apply the > rules in a step wise fashion rather than suggesting I turn to notes > since I have and honestly a bit confused but would like to give this > sytem an honest chance to learn and see its value and I need some > practical feedback. > > > P.S another point of confusion was when I was reading in the notes it > said to study the matters of marrage to treat house 2 as house B or > the main house and then see the upachayas from this house. > > I wonder which is right and which is wrong. > > So if someone can kindly guide it would be much appreciated. > > regards > Amit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Dear Amit, You are getting confused. I think you are trying to hurry up too much and mixing up things. I would suggest that you read the lessons again carefully and slowly. For marriage 7th house is considered as B, not 2nd house. 2nd house is karak for marriage. So, B is 7th, A will be 2nd, D will be 4th, E is 12th and C is 11th. 7th lesson shows how to construct WS for marriage and it is explained in much detail there. Please read that lesson carefully. You are taking B as 2nd for marriage and that is incorrect. Again, go slow and prefer not to start with your chart. I appreciate your effect and keep going. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " planck12 " <planck12 wrote: > > Another follow up to my pervious post. > > If I treat H2 as B for marriage, my 3rd is cancer (moon) 6th is > (libra) 10 is cap and 11 is pices (jupiter) > > however looking at the strongest signifiactor amogest these which is > venus (this is from the H2 tab in excel) again that period falls way > beyond logical sense for my marriage. > > So that does not work either. > > > > > , " planck12 " > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > Hi Ash or Manu, > > I am trying to practically apply the principles given in the notes and > > have been confused. Until ofcourse I can practically apply them to my > > chart and know what they mean I think it would be hard for me to pick > > up the system. > > > > So I need your assistance and help in following a certain aspect of my > > chart so I can see what is the way to work through a particular chart. > > > > Consdering I want to see my marriage as to what period it will happen. > > > > I am trying to understand and (if Ive understood correctly) that one > > has to look at the 3,6,10th and 11th from the 7th house. So basically > > the upachaya from the 7th house and the planets or the lords of these > > houses. Then which ever is the strongest would yield the result > > provided this planet is not aspecting the signifactor houses. > > > > By the same token when I apply this to my chart (aries acedent) my 7th > > house is libra and hence so the 3rd to this is saggi (jupiter), 6th is > > piseas(again Jupiter) 10th cancer (moon) and 11th is leo (sun) but > > with jupiter situation in it with 5 bindus > > > > Now if I understand this system correctly, I turn to my workbook and > > click the Tab H7 in the excel file which apprently treats the 7th > > house as house B and gives the strengths of all the planets in which I > > see moon having the highest strength followed by jupiter, however > > jupiter aspects the 9th house with his 5th aspect which is the 3rd > > house from 7th (so a signifcator to the upachaya) hence that leaves > > moon to give the results. > > > > So does that mean I get married during moon dasa which does not make > > any sense since that would start in 2019 and I would be close to 40 > > years of age > > > > So can kindly someone walk me through the system on how to apply the > > rules in a step wise fashion rather than suggesting I turn to notes > > since I have and honestly a bit confused but would like to give this > > sytem an honest chance to learn and see its value and I need some > > practical feedback. > > > > > > P.S another point of confusion was when I was reading in the notes it > > said to study the matters of marrage to treat house 2 as house B or > > the main house and then see the upachayas from this house. > > > > I wonder which is right and which is wrong. > > > > So if someone can kindly guide it would be much appreciated. > > > > regards > > Amit > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Dear Manu, As mentioned in my previous post I had also tried setting the 7th house as B. The reason I am trying to study my own chart is because thats the best way I can understand a system. I am quite well versed with the parashara and jaimin since IVe been practicing astrology since I was 10 years of age. However stumbling on this website I decided to see how accurate the krushana system was and hence needed to understand it. i feel only if I can understand my own chart and convience myself of its accuracy can I learn it. Also I am in the best position to judge my life and how it is heading hence if I analyze my own chart it will give me a better understanding of the system intially for me to learn it well. So coming back to your advice. 1. I placed my 7th house as B and computed the powers through the excel sheet. 2. Lord of D, E happen to by moon and jupiter. Now usually the lords of D and E as I take it will go to produce the results if they are poweful (Above 12 points in the chart) in my case moon has 22 point and jupiter has 20 points. However if I understand this system to any correctness it seems that jupiter would not give the results since its aspecting one of the significator houses in this case house 11 from lagna (which is C) using the upachaya method. Hence its moon bukti that would give me marriage. However the only problem I see with that is Id be 39 years old lol and I doubt that I would want to marry then apprently the free will of mine would not wait that long So I guess that does not leave too much scope in terms of lords of planets D & E I guess then I would have to fall back on the next line of reasoning which might be mercury and so on again pushing me in my mid 30s hence pretty much nothing for the next 10 years in marriage for me...... Suprisinly the true vedic astrology yields different results in terms of my marriage. I will state that later on once I can get a clear understanding of this system. I hope you will answer my query and guide me through the system since I definetely need some guidance in the way of words rather than me turning to books. Benjamin franklin once said " Tell me and I may forget, show me and I possibly would try to remeber, involve me and I will never forget " so I hope you see where I am coming from and would expect a sincere response from your end. Best regards Amit , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Amit, > > You are getting confused. I think you are trying to hurry up too much > and mixing up things. I would suggest that you read the lessons again > carefully and slowly. > > For marriage 7th house is considered as B, not 2nd house. 2nd house is > karak for marriage. So, B is 7th, A will be 2nd, D will be 4th, E is > 12th and C is 11th. 7th lesson shows how to construct WS for marriage > and it is explained in much detail there. Please read that lesson > carefully. > > You are taking B as 2nd for marriage and that is incorrect. > > Again, go slow and prefer not to start with your chart. > > I appreciate your effect and keep going. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > > , " planck12 " > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > Another follow up to my pervious post. > > > > If I treat H2 as B for marriage, my 3rd is cancer (moon) 6th is > > (libra) 10 is cap and 11 is pices (jupiter) > > > > however looking at the strongest signifiactor amogest these which is > > venus (this is from the H2 tab in excel) again that period falls way > > beyond logical sense for my marriage. > > > > So that does not work either. > > > > > > > > > > , " planck12 " > > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Ash or Manu, > > > I am trying to practically apply the principles given in the notes and > > > have been confused. Until ofcourse I can practically apply them to my > > > chart and know what they mean I think it would be hard for me to pick > > > up the system. > > > > > > So I need your assistance and help in following a certain aspect of my > > > chart so I can see what is the way to work through a particular > chart. > > > > > > Consdering I want to see my marriage as to what period it will > happen. > > > > > > I am trying to understand and (if Ive understood correctly) that one > > > has to look at the 3,6,10th and 11th from the 7th house. So basically > > > the upachaya from the 7th house and the planets or the lords of these > > > houses. Then which ever is the strongest would yield the result > > > provided this planet is not aspecting the signifactor houses. > > > > > > By the same token when I apply this to my chart (aries acedent) my 7th > > > house is libra and hence so the 3rd to this is saggi (jupiter), 6th is > > > piseas(again Jupiter) 10th cancer (moon) and 11th is leo (sun) but > > > with jupiter situation in it with 5 bindus > > > > > > Now if I understand this system correctly, I turn to my workbook and > > > click the Tab H7 in the excel file which apprently treats the 7th > > > house as house B and gives the strengths of all the planets in which I > > > see moon having the highest strength followed by jupiter, however > > > jupiter aspects the 9th house with his 5th aspect which is the 3rd > > > house from 7th (so a signifcator to the upachaya) hence that leaves > > > moon to give the results. > > > > > > So does that mean I get married during moon dasa which does not make > > > any sense since that would start in 2019 and I would be close to 40 > > > years of age > > > > > > So can kindly someone walk me through the system on how to apply the > > > rules in a step wise fashion rather than suggesting I turn to notes > > > since I have and honestly a bit confused but would like to give this > > > sytem an honest chance to learn and see its value and I need some > > > practical feedback. > > > > > > > > > P.S another point of confusion was when I was reading in the notes it > > > said to study the matters of marrage to treat house 2 as house B or > > > the main house and then see the upachayas from this house. > > > > > > I wonder which is right and which is wrong. > > > > > > So if someone can kindly guide it would be much appreciated. > > > > > > regards > > > Amit > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Dear Amit, Greetings. I know Manu will answer your question. Please check the following link (Compiled by Manoshi) /message/9837?threaded=1 & l\ =1 Using the rule in the link you can arrive at your marriage date. KAS always works and if you look at the archives you will see lots of analysis made by all the members. Hope this helps Regards Bala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Dear Amit, Ok...let me try to involve you. Please answer the following questions. 1. Do only LoD or LoE give events for House B or can there any other planet also that can give results in its antra? 2. Is Sa effecting A, B, C Houses by any means in your chart, be it from rasi/navamsa or by having any connection with house or lords of A, B, C? 3. In your WS, which planets will give benefic result for hs7 and which planets will give malefic result for hs7 in their antra? 4. What is the state of venus in your chart as regarding marriage. Distance from Sun, nakshatra of ve etc? 5. How many zeroes do you see in your chart and in which houses? Thanks & Regards, Manu , " planck12 " <planck12 wrote: > > Dear Manu, > As mentioned in my previous post I had also tried setting the 7th > house as B. > > The reason I am trying to study my own chart is because thats the best > way I can understand a system. I am quite well versed with the > parashara and jaimin since IVe been practicing astrology since I was > 10 years of age. However stumbling on this website I decided to see > how accurate the krushana system was and hence needed to understand > it. i feel only if I can understand my own chart and convience myself > of its accuracy can I learn it. Also I am in the best position to > judge my life and how it is heading hence if I analyze my own chart it > will give me a better understanding of the system intially for me to > learn it well. > > So coming back to your advice. > > 1. I placed my 7th house as B and computed the powers through the > excel sheet. > > 2. Lord of D, E happen to by moon and jupiter. > > Now usually the lords of D and E as I take it will go to produce the > results if they are poweful (Above 12 points in the chart) in my case > moon has 22 point and jupiter has 20 points. > > However if I understand this system to any correctness it seems that > jupiter would not give the results since its aspecting one of the > significator houses in this case house 11 from lagna (which is C) > using the upachaya method. Hence its moon bukti that would give me > marriage. > > However the only problem I see with that is Id be 39 years old lol > and I doubt that I would want to marry then apprently the free will of > mine would not wait that long > > So I guess that does not leave too much scope in terms of lords of > planets D & E I guess then I would have to fall back on the next line > of reasoning which might be mercury and so on again pushing me in my > mid 30s hence pretty much nothing for the next 10 years in marriage > for me...... > > Suprisinly the true vedic astrology yields different results in terms > of my marriage. I will state that later on once I can get a clear > understanding of this system. > > I hope you will answer my query and guide me through the system since > I definetely need some guidance in the way of words rather than me > turning to books. > > Benjamin franklin once said " Tell me and I may forget, show me and I > possibly would try to remeber, involve me and I will never forget " > > so I hope you see where I am coming from and would expect a sincere > response from your end. > > Best regards > Amit > > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > You are getting confused. I think you are trying to hurry up too much > > and mixing up things. I would suggest that you read the lessons again > > carefully and slowly. > > > > For marriage 7th house is considered as B, not 2nd house. 2nd house is > > karak for marriage. So, B is 7th, A will be 2nd, D will be 4th, E is > > 12th and C is 11th. 7th lesson shows how to construct WS for marriage > > and it is explained in much detail there. Please read that lesson > > carefully. > > > > You are taking B as 2nd for marriage and that is incorrect. > > > > Again, go slow and prefer not to start with your chart. > > > > I appreciate your effect and keep going. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > > > > > , " planck12 " > > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > > > Another follow up to my pervious post. > > > > > > If I treat H2 as B for marriage, my 3rd is cancer (moon) 6th is > > > (libra) 10 is cap and 11 is pices (jupiter) > > > > > > however looking at the strongest signifiactor amogest these which is > > > venus (this is from the H2 tab in excel) again that period falls way > > > beyond logical sense for my marriage. > > > > > > So that does not work either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " planck12 " > > > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Ash or Manu, > > > > I am trying to practically apply the principles given in the > notes and > > > > have been confused. Until ofcourse I can practically apply them > to my > > > > chart and know what they mean I think it would be hard for me to > pick > > > > up the system. > > > > > > > > So I need your assistance and help in following a certain aspect > of my > > > > chart so I can see what is the way to work through a particular > > chart. > > > > > > > > Consdering I want to see my marriage as to what period it will > > happen. > > > > > > > > I am trying to understand and (if Ive understood correctly) that one > > > > has to look at the 3,6,10th and 11th from the 7th house. So > basically > > > > the upachaya from the 7th house and the planets or the lords of > these > > > > houses. Then which ever is the strongest would yield the result > > > > provided this planet is not aspecting the signifactor houses. > > > > > > > > By the same token when I apply this to my chart (aries acedent) > my 7th > > > > house is libra and hence so the 3rd to this is saggi (jupiter), > 6th is > > > > piseas(again Jupiter) 10th cancer (moon) and 11th is leo (sun) but > > > > with jupiter situation in it with 5 bindus > > > > > > > > Now if I understand this system correctly, I turn to my workbook and > > > > click the Tab H7 in the excel file which apprently treats the 7th > > > > house as house B and gives the strengths of all the planets in > which I > > > > see moon having the highest strength followed by jupiter, however > > > > jupiter aspects the 9th house with his 5th aspect which is the 3rd > > > > house from 7th (so a signifcator to the upachaya) hence that leaves > > > > moon to give the results. > > > > > > > > So does that mean I get married during moon dasa which does not make > > > > any sense since that would start in 2019 and I would be close to 40 > > > > years of age > > > > > > > > So can kindly someone walk me through the system on how to apply the > > > > rules in a step wise fashion rather than suggesting I turn to notes > > > > since I have and honestly a bit confused but would like to give this > > > > sytem an honest chance to learn and see its value and I need some > > > > practical feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S another point of confusion was when I was reading in the > notes it > > > > said to study the matters of marrage to treat house 2 as house B or > > > > the main house and then see the upachayas from this house. > > > > > > > > I wonder which is right and which is wrong. > > > > > > > > So if someone can kindly guide it would be much appreciated. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Dear Amit, Please give your birth details. We can take up ur chart for discussion subject to the accuracy of birth time. Thanks. Ramesh Mishra planck12 <planck12 wrote: Hi Ash or Manu, I am trying to practically apply the principles given in the notes and have been confused. Until ofcourse I can practically apply them to my chart and know what they mean I think it would be hard for me to pick up the system. So I need your assistance and help in following a certain aspect of my chart so I can see what is the way to work through a particular chart. Consdering I want to see my marriage as to what period it will happen. I am trying to understand and (if Ive understood correctly) that one has to look at the 3,6,10th and 11th from the 7th house. So basically the upachaya from the 7th house and the planets or the lords of these houses. Then which ever is the strongest would yield the result provided this planet is not aspecting the signifactor houses. By the same token when I apply this to my chart (aries acedent) my 7th house is libra and hence so the 3rd to this is saggi (jupiter), 6th is piseas(again Jupiter) 10th cancer (moon) and 11th is leo (sun) but with jupiter situation in it with 5 bindus Now if I understand this system correctly, I turn to my workbook and click the Tab H7 in the excel file which apprently treats the 7th house as house B and gives the strengths of all the planets in which I see moon having the highest strength followed by jupiter, however jupiter aspects the 9th house with his 5th aspect which is the 3rd house from 7th (so a signifcator to the upachaya) hence that leaves moon to give the results. So does that mean I get married during moon dasa which does not make any sense since that would start in 2019 and I would be close to 40 years of age So can kindly someone walk me through the system on how to apply the rules in a step wise fashion rather than suggesting I turn to notes since I have and honestly a bit confused but would like to give this sytem an honest chance to learn and see its value and I need some practical feedback. P.S another point of confusion was when I was reading in the notes it said to study the matters of marrage to treat house 2 as house B or the main house and then see the upachayas from this house. I wonder which is right and which is wrong. So if someone can kindly guide it would be much appreciated. regards Amit Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Dear Ramesh, Thanks for your post. My details are 6 Aug 1980 12:04 am (just after midnite ) bombay. My acendent is aries. Actually I've been in troubled waters with my career and marriage. In terms of career, Im an engineer (rather a dual engineer with chemical and mechanical engineering degrees from a reputed university in canada). However my work involves me in electrical and apprently does not give me satisfaction or growth (something which we hear all too common in our astrology fourms) my resons for belief are ketu in 10th house. There have been views on the fact that my 10th house lord resides in 6th with my lagna lord mars which some folks have considered negative. But I however see it as positive. Simply because saturn gets powerful in navamasa in own house in kendra secondly. saturn does well in upachaya and is sitting along with lagna lord in the house or service. There is stuggle but I see growth along with it. Somehow it is just not materialising at this stage. However I wouldnt mind learning krushans system and see what it has in store for my delay in marriage (if that is going to happen) and my apprent lack of job satisfaction and proper job (since just like anyone else I would want to gain acceptance for my work and achieve a higher position based on my education) regards and will hope to hear your kind thoughts Amit , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Amit, > Please give your birth details. We can take up ur chart for discussion subject to the accuracy of birth time. Thanks. > Ramesh Mishra > > planck12 <planck12 wrote: > Hi Ash or Manu, > I am trying to practically apply the principles given in the notes and > have been confused. Until ofcourse I can practically apply them to my > chart and know what they mean I think it would be hard for me to pick > up the system. > > So I need your assistance and help in following a certain aspect of my > chart so I can see what is the way to work through a particular chart. > > Consdering I want to see my marriage as to what period it will happen. > > I am trying to understand and (if Ive understood correctly) that one > has to look at the 3,6,10th and 11th from the 7th house. So basically > the upachaya from the 7th house and the planets or the lords of these > houses. Then which ever is the strongest would yield the result > provided this planet is not aspecting the signifactor houses. > > By the same token when I apply this to my chart (aries acedent) my 7th > house is libra and hence so the 3rd to this is saggi (jupiter), 6th is > piseas(again Jupiter) 10th cancer (moon) and 11th is leo (sun) but > with jupiter situation in it with 5 bindus > > Now if I understand this system correctly, I turn to my workbook and > click the Tab H7 in the excel file which apprently treats the 7th > house as house B and gives the strengths of all the planets in which I > see moon having the highest strength followed by jupiter, however > jupiter aspects the 9th house with his 5th aspect which is the 3rd > house from 7th (so a signifcator to the upachaya) hence that leaves > moon to give the results. > > So does that mean I get married during moon dasa which does not make > any sense since that would start in 2019 and I would be close to 40 > years of age > > So can kindly someone walk me through the system on how to apply the > rules in a step wise fashion rather than suggesting I turn to notes > since I have and honestly a bit confused but would like to give this > sytem an honest chance to learn and see its value and I need some > practical feedback. > > P.S another point of confusion was when I was reading in the notes it > said to study the matters of marrage to treat house 2 as house B or > the main house and then see the upachayas from this house. > > I wonder which is right and which is wrong. > > So if someone can kindly guide it would be much appreciated. > > regards > Amit > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Hello Amit, I took your birth details as 06 Aug 1980, 00:03 AM at Bombay.If this is correct then I got Asc as 20 Ar 56. According to this chart your marriage is delayed by the aspect of Sa on Loa , LoB and LoC. However this delay is moderateed by the aspect of Ju on Sa in navamsa. When the delay was over you were running through Mo antara in Ra main.Thereefore Mo antara can not give the event. Next antara is that of Ma who is in 6th house and its SAV points are low for 7th house matter.Moreover Ma contributes zero in 5th house.Therefore Ma also can not furnish the event of marriage. Now come to Ju antara in Ju main. Ju is LoE for 7th as B.Ju is strong enough with 20 SAV points. Ju is also SD to Mo who has the strongest and highest SAV points with 22.Mo is also LoD for 7th house. I think Ju antara may come forward to give the marriage. Ju antara runs from 02 Jan 2008 to 19 Feb 2010. Since there is one zero , delay by Sa but delay is moderated by Ju so your marriagee may be performed in second sector of Ju antara which runs through Sep/2008 to Jun/2009. I do not know myself how far I am correct approaching your marriage date but our experts may correct us where ever I committed mistakes. Thanks and reegards. Ramesh Mishra planck12 <planck12 wrote: Hi Ash or Manu, I am trying to practically apply the principles given in the notes and have been confused. Until ofcourse I can practically apply them to my chart and know what they mean I think it would be hard for me to pick up the system. So I need your assistance and help in following a certain aspect of my chart so I can see what is the way to work through a particular chart. Consdering I want to see my marriage as to what period it will happen. I am trying to understand and (if Ive understood correctly) that one has to look at the 3,6,10th and 11th from the 7th house. So basically the upachaya from the 7th house and the planets or the lords of these houses. Then which ever is the strongest would yield the result provided this planet is not aspecting the signifactor houses. By the same token when I apply this to my chart (aries acedent) my 7th house is libra and hence so the 3rd to this is saggi (jupiter), 6th is piseas(again Jupiter) 10th cancer (moon) and 11th is leo (sun) but with jupiter situation in it with 5 bindus Now if I understand this system correctly, I turn to my workbook and click the Tab H7 in the excel file which apprently treats the 7th house as house B and gives the strengths of all the planets in which I see moon having the highest strength followed by jupiter, however jupiter aspects the 9th house with his 5th aspect which is the 3rd house from 7th (so a signifcator to the upachaya) hence that leaves moon to give the results. So does that mean I get married during moon dasa which does not make any sense since that would start in 2019 and I would be close to 40 years of age So can kindly someone walk me through the system on how to apply the rules in a step wise fashion rather than suggesting I turn to notes since I have and honestly a bit confused but would like to give this sytem an honest chance to learn and see its value and I need some practical feedback. P.S another point of confusion was when I was reading in the notes it said to study the matters of marrage to treat house 2 as house B or the main house and then see the upachayas from this house. I wonder which is right and which is wrong. So if someone can kindly guide it would be much appreciated. regards Amit Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Dear Ramesh, Thank you for taking the time to assess things atleast putting some sort of a picture to all the theortical knoweldge. I have a few question if you do not mind answer. 1. As I see it Juptier too aspects House C (11th) which is a sig house for marriage in the rashi chart would this not make it a problem to get married in jupiter sub. In-spite of it being powerful I recollect reading a rule in the notes stating that any planet aspecting the significator houses will not come foward to give the results? In this case Jupiter aspect sig house C loses power. 2. I do not understand what you mean by " When the delay was over you were running through Mo antara in Ra main " . How do we compute this delay in other words how does it fall in the rahu-moon time frame. 3. Can you explain who moon and jupiter are samdharmi. I believe both are in a 4-10 relationship however both jupiter and moon have 5 points so can jupiter act as SD to moon if so how? Thanks and will be hoping to hear from you. Once agani a nice logical approch. regards Amit , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Hello Amit, > I took your birth details as 06 Aug 1980, 00:03 AM at Bombay.If this is correct then I got Asc as 20 Ar 56. > According to this chart your marriage is delayed by the aspect of Sa on Loa , LoB and LoC. However this delay is moderateed by the aspect of Ju on Sa in navamsa. > When the delay was over you were running through Mo antara in Ra main.Thereefore Mo antara can not give the event. > Next antara is that of Ma who is in 6th house and its SAV points are low for 7th house matter.Moreover Ma contributes zero in 5th house.Therefore Ma also can not furnish the event of marriage. > Now come to Ju antara in Ju main. Ju is LoE for 7th as B.Ju is strong enough with 20 SAV points. Ju is also SD to Mo who has the strongest and highest SAV points with 22.Mo is also LoD for 7th house. > I think Ju antara may come forward to give the marriage. > Ju antara runs from 02 Jan 2008 to 19 Feb 2010. > Since there is one zero , delay by Sa but delay is moderated by Ju so your marriagee may be performed in second sector of Ju antara which runs through Sep/2008 to Jun/2009. > I do not know myself how far I am correct approaching your marriage date but our experts may correct us where ever I committed mistakes. > Thanks and reegards. > Ramesh Mishra > > > planck12 <planck12 wrote: > Hi Ash or Manu, > I am trying to practically apply the principles given in the notes and > have been confused. Until ofcourse I can practically apply them to my > chart and know what they mean I think it would be hard for me to pick > up the system. > > So I need your assistance and help in following a certain aspect of my > chart so I can see what is the way to work through a particular chart. > > Consdering I want to see my marriage as to what period it will happen. > > I am trying to understand and (if Ive understood correctly) that one > has to look at the 3,6,10th and 11th from the 7th house. So basically > the upachaya from the 7th house and the planets or the lords of these > houses. Then which ever is the strongest would yield the result > provided this planet is not aspecting the signifactor houses. > > By the same token when I apply this to my chart (aries acedent) my 7th > house is libra and hence so the 3rd to this is saggi (jupiter), 6th is > piseas(again Jupiter) 10th cancer (moon) and 11th is leo (sun) but > with jupiter situation in it with 5 bindus > > Now if I understand this system correctly, I turn to my workbook and > click the Tab H7 in the excel file which apprently treats the 7th > house as house B and gives the strengths of all the planets in which I > see moon having the highest strength followed by jupiter, however > jupiter aspects the 9th house with his 5th aspect which is the 3rd > house from 7th (so a signifcator to the upachaya) hence that leaves > moon to give the results. > > So does that mean I get married during moon dasa which does not make > any sense since that would start in 2019 and I would be close to 40 > years of age > > So can kindly someone walk me through the system on how to apply the > rules in a step wise fashion rather than suggesting I turn to notes > since I have and honestly a bit confused but would like to give this > sytem an honest chance to learn and see its value and I need some > practical feedback. > > P.S another point of confusion was when I was reading in the notes it > said to study the matters of marrage to treat house 2 as house B or > the main house and then see the upachayas from this house. > > I wonder which is right and which is wrong. > > So if someone can kindly guide it would be much appreciated. > > regards > Amit > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Dear Amit,Thanks for taking interest in KAS.Answers to your questions are given below.It may be wrong also because I am also a learner like you. 1.Jup is aspecting house C but it is LoD also therefore Ju can give its result whenever it gets chance. 2.Computaion of delay is given by one of our member in the previos mail.Kindly go through that link, it will clear your doubt. 3.Mo and Jup are in 4:10 relationship.Though they have equal points Ju becomes SD to Mo. I think this is clear to you. Ramesh Mishra , " planck12 " <planck12 wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > Thank you for taking the time to assess things atleast putting some > sort of a picture to all the theortical knoweldge. I have a few > question if you do not mind answer. > > 1. As I see it Juptier too aspects House C (11th) which is a sig > house for marriage in the rashi chart would this not make it a > problem to get married in jupiter sub. In-spite of it being powerful > I recollect reading a rule in the notes stating that any planet > aspecting the significator houses will not come foward to give the > results? In this case Jupiter aspect sig house C loses power. > > 2. I do not understand what you mean by " When the delay was over you > were running through Mo antara in Ra > main " . How do we compute this delay in other words how does it fall > in the rahu-moon time frame. > > 3. Can you explain who moon and jupiter are samdharmi. I believe both > are in a 4-10 relationship however both jupiter and moon have 5 > points so can jupiter act as SD to moon if so how? > > Thanks and will be hoping to hear from you. Once agani a nice logical > approch. > > regards > Amit > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Hello Amit, > > I took your birth details as 06 Aug 1980, 00:03 AM at Bombay.If > this is correct then I got Asc as 20 Ar 56. > > According to this chart your marriage is delayed by the aspect of > Sa on Loa , LoB and LoC. However this delay is moderateed by the > aspect of Ju on Sa in navamsa. > > When the delay was over you were running through Mo antara in Ra > main.Thereefore Mo antara can not give the event. > > Next antara is that of Ma who is in 6th house and its SAV points > are low for 7th house matter.Moreover Ma contributes zero in 5th > house.Therefore Ma also can not furnish the event of marriage. > > Now come to Ju antara in Ju main. Ju is LoE for 7th as B.Ju is > strong enough with 20 SAV points. Ju is also SD to Mo who has the > strongest and highest SAV points with 22.Mo is also LoD for 7th house. > > I think Ju antara may come forward to give the marriage. > > Ju antara runs from 02 Jan 2008 to 19 Feb 2010. > > Since there is one zero , delay by Sa but delay is moderated by > Ju so your marriagee may be performed in second sector of Ju antara > which runs through Sep/2008 to Jun/2009. > > I do not know myself how far I am correct approaching your > marriage date but our experts may correct us where ever I committed > mistakes. > > Thanks and reegards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > planck12 <planck12@> wrote: > > Hi Ash or Manu, > > I am trying to practically apply the principles given in the notes > and > > have been confused. Until ofcourse I can practically apply them to > my > > chart and know what they mean I think it would be hard for me to > pick > > up the system. > > > > So I need your assistance and help in following a certain aspect of > my > > chart so I can see what is the way to work through a particular > chart. > > > > Consdering I want to see my marriage as to what period it will > happen. > > > > I am trying to understand and (if Ive understood correctly) that one > > has to look at the 3,6,10th and 11th from the 7th house. So > basically > > the upachaya from the 7th house and the planets or the lords of > these > > houses. Then which ever is the strongest would yield the result > > provided this planet is not aspecting the signifactor houses. > > > > By the same token when I apply this to my chart (aries acedent) my > 7th > > house is libra and hence so the 3rd to this is saggi (jupiter), 6th > is > > piseas(again Jupiter) 10th cancer (moon) and 11th is leo (sun) but > > with jupiter situation in it with 5 bindus > > > > Now if I understand this system correctly, I turn to my workbook and > > click the Tab H7 in the excel file which apprently treats the 7th > > house as house B and gives the strengths of all the planets in > which I > > see moon having the highest strength followed by jupiter, however > > jupiter aspects the 9th house with his 5th aspect which is the 3rd > > house from 7th (so a signifcator to the upachaya) hence that leaves > > moon to give the results. > > > > So does that mean I get married during moon dasa which does not make > > any sense since that would start in 2019 and I would be close to 40 > > years of age > > > > So can kindly someone walk me through the system on how to apply the > > rules in a step wise fashion rather than suggesting I turn to notes > > since I have and honestly a bit confused but would like to give this > > sytem an honest chance to learn and see its value and I need some > > practical feedback. > > > > P.S another point of confusion was when I was reading in the notes > it > > said to study the matters of marrage to treat house 2 as house B or > > the main house and then see the upachayas from this house. > > > > I wonder which is right and which is wrong. > > > > So if someone can kindly guide it would be much appreciated. > > > > regards > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your > Messenger. 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Guest guest Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Dear Amit, When u read the lessons you may find that Lod and LoE always gives benefic results.In ur chart LoD is Mo and LoE is Ju. So Ju also may give result when its antara comes into play irrespecive of its aspect on any significant houses. Currently you are passing through Ma antara in Ra main. Ma is in 12th house from 7th as B. Ma is weak in WS for 7th house matter with 8 points only. Ma can not give result for 7th. Me is your 6th lord and occupy strongly house D thereby spoiling house D. When your Ju anara starts from 02 Jan 2008 your expenditures may shoot up compared to your savings or income. At present your income is high with less effort. Amit please tell me whether this is correct. Thanks and regard. Ramesh Mishra planck12 <planck12 wrote: Dear Manu, As mentioned in my previous post I had also tried setting the 7th house as B. The reason I am trying to study my own chart is because thats the best way I can understand a system. I am quite well versed with the parashara and jaimin since IVe been practicing astrology since I was 10 years of age. However stumbling on this website I decided to see how accurate the krushana system was and hence needed to understand it. i feel only if I can understand my own chart and convience myself of its accuracy can I learn it. Also I am in the best position to judge my life and how it is heading hence if I analyze my own chart it will give me a better understanding of the system intially for me to learn it well. So coming back to your advice. 1. I placed my 7th house as B and computed the powers through the excel sheet. 2. Lord of D, E happen to by moon and jupiter. Now usually the lords of D and E as I take it will go to produce the results if they are poweful (Above 12 points in the chart) in my case moon has 22 point and jupiter has 20 points. However if I understand this system to any correctness it seems that jupiter would not give the results since its aspecting one of the significator houses in this case house 11 from lagna (which is C) using the upachaya method. Hence its moon bukti that would give me marriage. However the only problem I see with that is Id be 39 years old lol and I doubt that I would want to marry then apprently the free will of mine would not wait that long So I guess that does not leave too much scope in terms of lords of planets D & E I guess then I would have to fall back on the next line of reasoning which might be mercury and so on again pushing me in my mid 30s hence pretty much nothing for the next 10 years in marriage for me...... Suprisinly the true vedic astrology yields different results in terms of my marriage. I will state that later on once I can get a clear understanding of this system. I hope you will answer my query and guide me through the system since I definetely need some guidance in the way of words rather than me turning to books. Benjamin franklin once said " Tell me and I may forget, show me and I possibly would try to remeber, involve me and I will never forget " so I hope you see where I am coming from and would expect a sincere response from your end. Best regards Amit , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Amit, > > You are getting confused. I think you are trying to hurry up too much > and mixing up things. I would suggest that you read the lessons again > carefully and slowly. > > For marriage 7th house is considered as B, not 2nd house. 2nd house is > karak for marriage. So, B is 7th, A will be 2nd, D will be 4th, E is > 12th and C is 11th. 7th lesson shows how to construct WS for marriage > and it is explained in much detail there. Please read that lesson > carefully. > > You are taking B as 2nd for marriage and that is incorrect. > > Again, go slow and prefer not to start with your chart. > > I appreciate your effect and keep going. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > > , " planck12 " > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > Another follow up to my pervious post. > > > > If I treat H2 as B for marriage, my 3rd is cancer (moon) 6th is > > (libra) 10 is cap and 11 is pices (jupiter) > > > > however looking at the strongest signifiactor amogest these which is > > venus (this is from the H2 tab in excel) again that period falls way > > beyond logical sense for my marriage. > > > > So that does not work either. > > > > > > > > > > , " planck12 " > > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Ash or Manu, > > > I am trying to practically apply the principles given in the notes and > > > have been confused. Until ofcourse I can practically apply them to my > > > chart and know what they mean I think it would be hard for me to pick > > > up the system. > > > > > > So I need your assistance and help in following a certain aspect of my > > > chart so I can see what is the way to work through a particular > chart. > > > > > > Consdering I want to see my marriage as to what period it will > happen. > > > > > > I am trying to understand and (if Ive understood correctly) that one > > > has to look at the 3,6,10th and 11th from the 7th house. So basically > > > the upachaya from the 7th house and the planets or the lords of these > > > houses. Then which ever is the strongest would yield the result > > > provided this planet is not aspecting the signifactor houses. > > > > > > By the same token when I apply this to my chart (aries acedent) my 7th > > > house is libra and hence so the 3rd to this is saggi (jupiter), 6th is > > > piseas(again Jupiter) 10th cancer (moon) and 11th is leo (sun) but > > > with jupiter situation in it with 5 bindus > > > > > > Now if I understand this system correctly, I turn to my workbook and > > > click the Tab H7 in the excel file which apprently treats the 7th > > > house as house B and gives the strengths of all the planets in which I > > > see moon having the highest strength followed by jupiter, however > > > jupiter aspects the 9th house with his 5th aspect which is the 3rd > > > house from 7th (so a signifcator to the upachaya) hence that leaves > > > moon to give the results. > > > > > > So does that mean I get married during moon dasa which does not make > > > any sense since that would start in 2019 and I would be close to 40 > > > years of age > > > > > > So can kindly someone walk me through the system on how to apply the > > > rules in a step wise fashion rather than suggesting I turn to notes > > > since I have and honestly a bit confused but would like to give this > > > sytem an honest chance to learn and see its value and I need some > > > practical feedback. > > > > > > > > > P.S another point of confusion was when I was reading in the notes it > > > said to study the matters of marrage to treat house 2 as house B or > > > the main house and then see the upachayas from this house. > > > > > > I wonder which is right and which is wrong. > > > > > > So if someone can kindly guide it would be much appreciated. > > > > > > regards > > > Amit > > > > > > Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Dear Ramesh and Amit, Please check sa's tr now and also the past 3 antras from i.e sun, moon and mars and check their power for 6th and 10th. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Amit, > When u read the lessons you may find that Lod and LoE always gives benefic results.In ur chart LoD is Mo and LoE is Ju. So Ju also may give result when its antara comes into play irrespecive of its aspect on any significant houses. > Currently you are passing through Ma antara in Ra main. Ma is in 12th house from 7th as B. Ma is weak in WS for 7th house matter with 8 points only. Ma can not give result for 7th. > Me is your 6th lord and occupy strongly house D thereby spoiling house D. > When your Ju anara starts from 02 Jan 2008 your expenditures may shoot up compared to your savings or income. > At present your income is high with less effort. > Amit please tell me whether this is correct. > Thanks and regard. > Ramesh Mishra > > planck12 <planck12 wrote: > Dear Manu, > As mentioned in my previous post I had also tried setting the 7th > house as B. > > The reason I am trying to study my own chart is because thats the best > way I can understand a system. I am quite well versed with the > parashara and jaimin since IVe been practicing astrology since I was > 10 years of age. However stumbling on this website I decided to see > how accurate the krushana system was and hence needed to understand > it. i feel only if I can understand my own chart and convience myself > of its accuracy can I learn it. Also I am in the best position to > judge my life and how it is heading hence if I analyze my own chart it > will give me a better understanding of the system intially for me to > learn it well. > > So coming back to your advice. > > 1. I placed my 7th house as B and computed the powers through the > excel sheet. > > 2. Lord of D, E happen to by moon and jupiter. > > Now usually the lords of D and E as I take it will go to produce the > results if they are poweful (Above 12 points in the chart) in my case > moon has 22 point and jupiter has 20 points. > > However if I understand this system to any correctness it seems that > jupiter would not give the results since its aspecting one of the > significator houses in this case house 11 from lagna (which is C) > using the upachaya method. Hence its moon bukti that would give me > marriage. > > However the only problem I see with that is Id be 39 years old lol > and I doubt that I would want to marry then apprently the free will of > mine would not wait that long > > So I guess that does not leave too much scope in terms of lords of > planets D & E I guess then I would have to fall back on the next line > of reasoning which might be mercury and so on again pushing me in my > mid 30s hence pretty much nothing for the next 10 years in marriage > for me...... > > Suprisinly the true vedic astrology yields different results in terms > of my marriage. I will state that later on once I can get a clear > understanding of this system. > > I hope you will answer my query and guide me through the system since > I definetely need some guidance in the way of words rather than me > turning to books. > > Benjamin franklin once said " Tell me and I may forget, show me and I > possibly would try to remeber, involve me and I will never forget " > > so I hope you see where I am coming from and would expect a sincere > response from your end. > > Best regards > Amit > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > You are getting confused. I think you are trying to hurry up too much > > and mixing up things. I would suggest that you read the lessons again > > carefully and slowly. > > > > For marriage 7th house is considered as B, not 2nd house. 2nd house is > > karak for marriage. So, B is 7th, A will be 2nd, D will be 4th, E is > > 12th and C is 11th. 7th lesson shows how to construct WS for marriage > > and it is explained in much detail there. Please read that lesson > > carefully. > > > > You are taking B as 2nd for marriage and that is incorrect. > > > > Again, go slow and prefer not to start with your chart. > > > > I appreciate your effect and keep going. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > > > > > , " planck12 " > > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > > > Another follow up to my pervious post. > > > > > > If I treat H2 as B for marriage, my 3rd is cancer (moon) 6th is > > > (libra) 10 is cap and 11 is pices (jupiter) > > > > > > however looking at the strongest signifiactor amogest these which is > > > venus (this is from the H2 tab in excel) again that period falls way > > > beyond logical sense for my marriage. > > > > > > So that does not work either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " planck12 " > > > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Ash or Manu, > > > > I am trying to practically apply the principles given in the > notes and > > > > have been confused. Until ofcourse I can practically apply them > to my > > > > chart and know what they mean I think it would be hard for me to > pick > > > > up the system. > > > > > > > > So I need your assistance and help in following a certain aspect > of my > > > > chart so I can see what is the way to work through a particular > > chart. > > > > > > > > Consdering I want to see my marriage as to what period it will > > happen. > > > > > > > > I am trying to understand and (if Ive understood correctly) that one > > > > has to look at the 3,6,10th and 11th from the 7th house. So > basically > > > > the upachaya from the 7th house and the planets or the lords of > these > > > > houses. Then which ever is the strongest would yield the result > > > > provided this planet is not aspecting the signifactor houses. > > > > > > > > By the same token when I apply this to my chart (aries acedent) > my 7th > > > > house is libra and hence so the 3rd to this is saggi (jupiter), > 6th is > > > > piseas(again Jupiter) 10th cancer (moon) and 11th is leo (sun) but > > > > with jupiter situation in it with 5 bindus > > > > > > > > Now if I understand this system correctly, I turn to my workbook and > > > > click the Tab H7 in the excel file which apprently treats the 7th > > > > house as house B and gives the strengths of all the planets in > which I > > > > see moon having the highest strength followed by jupiter, however > > > > jupiter aspects the 9th house with his 5th aspect which is the 3rd > > > > house from 7th (so a signifcator to the upachaya) hence that leaves > > > > moon to give the results. > > > > > > > > So does that mean I get married during moon dasa which does not make > > > > any sense since that would start in 2019 and I would be close to 40 > > > > years of age > > > > > > > > So can kindly someone walk me through the system on how to apply the > > > > rules in a step wise fashion rather than suggesting I turn to notes > > > > since I have and honestly a bit confused but would like to give this > > > > sytem an honest chance to learn and see its value and I need some > > > > practical feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S another point of confusion was when I was reading in the > notes it > > > > said to study the matters of marrage to treat house 2 as house B or > > > > the main house and then see the upachayas from this house. > > > > > > > > I wonder which is right and which is wrong. > > > > > > > > So if someone can kindly guide it would be much appreciated. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Dear Ramesh, I sort of understand certain things however still need to work myself on understanding all the relevent house systems. To answer your question about income and career. 1. At present I have been totally disatisfied with the job and boss. In fact I am running through a finanical crisis even at this stage and have for a long time. To clear that point, I have a huge finanical student loan that I am paying back after my gradutaion in engineering. Hence I am uable to save, pay for my rest, living expenses and my loan. So I am in a net debt (considering my loan payoff which is going to last for a while) perhaps its the trend in canada and north america where we pay for our eduction and incur student debt before we start to live life In-fact as of present nothing seems to be going to my liking, dissatisfaction in career, delay in marriage and finances are all over the hill. Hence I had made a posting in the fourm just last week and I am sure u must have read it " terrible finances and career " . So that is the state of affairs as of present. My ideal world just like anyone. Is to be rich, finanically secure and lead a normal comfortable life. I have been turning to astrology to seek answers rather as concentrte as possible weather I would be able to become rich get married and lead a comfortable life. So if you feel that Jupiter antra is going to bring more expenses than savings I think I am looking for another rough period that has existed for the last 8 years or so ever since I started my education. Let me know of your thoughts, also let me know how you look at finances and income (in traditional astrology its artha trikona houses) which is 2, 6, 11, 10 (for expenses its 12th) what about in this system. Also if I understood correctly if u see my 11th house it all planets excpet one have benefic points so wouldnt their antras bring good in its period for income and gain (considering 11th is considered for gain and income in this sytem) thanks Amit , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Ramesh and Amit, > Please check sa's tr now and also the past 3 antras from i.e sun, moon > and mars and check their power for 6th and 10th. > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amit, > > When u read the lessons you may find that Lod and LoE always gives > benefic results.In ur chart LoD is Mo and LoE is Ju. So Ju also may > give result when its antara comes into play irrespecive of its aspect > on any significant houses. > > Currently you are passing through Ma antara in Ra main. Ma is in > 12th house from 7th as B. Ma is weak in WS for 7th house matter with 8 > points only. Ma can not give result for 7th. > > Me is your 6th lord and occupy strongly house D thereby spoiling > house D. > > When your Ju anara starts from 02 Jan 2008 your expenditures may > shoot up compared to your savings or income. > > At present your income is high with less effort. > > Amit please tell me whether this is correct. > > Thanks and regard. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > planck12 <planck12@> wrote: > > Dear Manu, > > As mentioned in my previous post I had also tried setting the 7th > > house as B. > > > > The reason I am trying to study my own chart is because thats the best > > way I can understand a system. I am quite well versed with the > > parashara and jaimin since IVe been practicing astrology since I was > > 10 years of age. However stumbling on this website I decided to see > > how accurate the krushana system was and hence needed to understand > > it. i feel only if I can understand my own chart and convience myself > > of its accuracy can I learn it. Also I am in the best position to > > judge my life and how it is heading hence if I analyze my own chart it > > will give me a better understanding of the system intially for me to > > learn it well. > > > > So coming back to your advice. > > > > 1. I placed my 7th house as B and computed the powers through the > > excel sheet. > > > > 2. Lord of D, E happen to by moon and jupiter. > > > > Now usually the lords of D and E as I take it will go to produce the > > results if they are poweful (Above 12 points in the chart) in my case > > moon has 22 point and jupiter has 20 points. > > > > However if I understand this system to any correctness it seems that > > jupiter would not give the results since its aspecting one of the > > significator houses in this case house 11 from lagna (which is C) > > using the upachaya method. Hence its moon bukti that would give me > > marriage. > > > > However the only problem I see with that is Id be 39 years old lol > > and I doubt that I would want to marry then apprently the free will of > > mine would not wait that long > > > > So I guess that does not leave too much scope in terms of lords of > > planets D & E I guess then I would have to fall back on the next line > > of reasoning which might be mercury and so on again pushing me in my > > mid 30s hence pretty much nothing for the next 10 years in marriage > > for me...... > > > > Suprisinly the true vedic astrology yields different results in terms > > of my marriage. I will state that later on once I can get a clear > > understanding of this system. > > > > I hope you will answer my query and guide me through the system since > > I definetely need some guidance in the way of words rather than me > > turning to books. > > > > Benjamin franklin once said " Tell me and I may forget, show me and I > > possibly would try to remeber, involve me and I will never forget " > > > > so I hope you see where I am coming from and would expect a sincere > > response from your end. > > > > Best regards > > Amit > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > > > You are getting confused. I think you are trying to hurry up too much > > > and mixing up things. I would suggest that you read the lessons again > > > carefully and slowly. > > > > > > For marriage 7th house is considered as B, not 2nd house. 2nd house is > > > karak for marriage. So, B is 7th, A will be 2nd, D will be 4th, E is > > > 12th and C is 11th. 7th lesson shows how to construct WS for marriage > > > and it is explained in much detail there. Please read that lesson > > > carefully. > > > > > > You are taking B as 2nd for marriage and that is incorrect. > > > > > > Again, go slow and prefer not to start with your chart. > > > > > > I appreciate your effect and keep going. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > , " planck12 " > > > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Another follow up to my pervious post. > > > > > > > > If I treat H2 as B for marriage, my 3rd is cancer (moon) 6th is > > > > (libra) 10 is cap and 11 is pices (jupiter) > > > > > > > > however looking at the strongest signifiactor amogest these which is > > > > venus (this is from the H2 tab in excel) again that period falls way > > > > beyond logical sense for my marriage. > > > > > > > > So that does not work either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " planck12 " > > > > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ash or Manu, > > > > > I am trying to practically apply the principles given in the > > notes and > > > > > have been confused. Until ofcourse I can practically apply them > > to my > > > > > chart and know what they mean I think it would be hard for me to > > pick > > > > > up the system. > > > > > > > > > > So I need your assistance and help in following a certain aspect > > of my > > > > > chart so I can see what is the way to work through a particular > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > Consdering I want to see my marriage as to what period it will > > > happen. > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to understand and (if Ive understood correctly) > that one > > > > > has to look at the 3,6,10th and 11th from the 7th house. So > > basically > > > > > the upachaya from the 7th house and the planets or the lords of > > these > > > > > houses. Then which ever is the strongest would yield the result > > > > > provided this planet is not aspecting the signifactor houses. > > > > > > > > > > By the same token when I apply this to my chart (aries acedent) > > my 7th > > > > > house is libra and hence so the 3rd to this is saggi (jupiter), > > 6th is > > > > > piseas(again Jupiter) 10th cancer (moon) and 11th is leo (sun) but > > > > > with jupiter situation in it with 5 bindus > > > > > > > > > > Now if I understand this system correctly, I turn to my > workbook and > > > > > click the Tab H7 in the excel file which apprently treats the 7th > > > > > house as house B and gives the strengths of all the planets in > > which I > > > > > see moon having the highest strength followed by jupiter, however > > > > > jupiter aspects the 9th house with his 5th aspect which is the 3rd > > > > > house from 7th (so a signifcator to the upachaya) hence that > leaves > > > > > moon to give the results. > > > > > > > > > > So does that mean I get married during moon dasa which does > not make > > > > > any sense since that would start in 2019 and I would be close > to 40 > > > > > years of age > > > > > > > > > > So can kindly someone walk me through the system on how to > apply the > > > > > rules in a step wise fashion rather than suggesting I turn to > notes > > > > > since I have and honestly a bit confused but would like to > give this > > > > > sytem an honest chance to learn and see its value and I need some > > > > > practical feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S another point of confusion was when I was reading in the > > notes it > > > > > said to study the matters of marrage to treat house 2 as house > B or > > > > > the main house and then see the upachayas from this house. > > > > > > > > > > I wonder which is right and which is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > So if someone can kindly guide it would be much appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Dear Ash, The saturn is transiting in my 5th house with low bindus (16only) which makes sense. Also 5th house has one 0 contributed by mars and which shows difficulty. However I have been running into a difficult time with finances since the past 7 years or so, intially it was education where I had to take loan and pay of my eduction and now its paying back the loan I took, my rent, living expenses etc so there is no saving. This has been going no for a long time. I wanna save and be finanically secure in life. Having seen the 11th house (most planets in there attain benefic points) so does that mean income will be good. I am a bit suprised that the system does not cover the role of Maha dasa lord. Which would be the single most important change I would experiene when Rahu MD changes to jupiter. Your thoughts would be appreciated. regards Amit , " planck12 " <planck12 wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > I sort of understand certain things however still need to work myself > on understanding all the relevent house systems. > > To answer your question about income and career. > > 1. At present I have been totally disatisfied with the job and boss. > In fact I am running through a finanical crisis even at this stage > and have for a long time. > > To clear that point, I have a huge finanical student loan that I am > paying back after my gradutaion in engineering. Hence I am uable to > save, pay for my rest, living expenses and my loan. So I am in a net > debt (considering my loan payoff which is going to last for a while) > perhaps its the trend in canada and north america where we pay for > our eduction and incur student debt before we start to live life > > In-fact as of present nothing seems to be going to my liking, > dissatisfaction in career, delay in marriage and finances are all > over the hill. Hence I had made a posting in the fourm just last week > and I am sure u must have read it " terrible finances and career " . > > So that is the state of affairs as of present. > > My ideal world just like anyone. Is to be rich, finanically secure > and lead a normal comfortable life. I have been turning to astrology > to seek answers rather as concentrte as possible weather I would be > able to become rich get married and lead a comfortable life. > > So if you feel that Jupiter antra is going to bring more expenses > than savings I think I am looking for another rough period that has > existed for the last 8 years or so ever since I started my education. > > Let me know of your thoughts, also let me know how you look at > finances and income (in traditional astrology its artha trikona > houses) which is 2, 6, 11, 10 (for expenses its 12th) what about in > this system. > > Also if I understood correctly if u see my 11th house it all planets > excpet one have benefic points so wouldnt their antras bring good in > its period for income and gain (considering 11th is considered for > gain and income in this sytem) > > thanks > Amit > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh and Amit, > > Please check sa's tr now and also the past 3 antras from i.e sun, > moon > > and mars and check their power for 6th and 10th. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amit, > > > When u read the lessons you may find that Lod and LoE always > gives > > benefic results.In ur chart LoD is Mo and LoE is Ju. So Ju also may > > give result when its antara comes into play irrespecive of its > aspect > > on any significant houses. > > > Currently you are passing through Ma antara in Ra main. Ma is in > > 12th house from 7th as B. Ma is weak in WS for 7th house matter > with 8 > > points only. Ma can not give result for 7th. > > > Me is your 6th lord and occupy strongly house D thereby spoiling > > house D. > > > When your Ju anara starts from 02 Jan 2008 your expenditures may > > shoot up compared to your savings or income. > > > At present your income is high with less effort. > > > Amit please tell me whether this is correct. > > > Thanks and regard. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > planck12 <planck12@> wrote: > > > Dear Manu, > > > As mentioned in my previous post I had also tried setting the 7th > > > house as B. > > > > > > The reason I am trying to study my own chart is because thats the > best > > > way I can understand a system. I am quite well versed with the > > > parashara and jaimin since IVe been practicing astrology since I > was > > > 10 years of age. However stumbling on this website I decided to > see > > > how accurate the krushana system was and hence needed to > understand > > > it. i feel only if I can understand my own chart and convience > myself > > > of its accuracy can I learn it. Also I am in the best position to > > > judge my life and how it is heading hence if I analyze my own > chart it > > > will give me a better understanding of the system intially for me > to > > > learn it well. > > > > > > So coming back to your advice. > > > > > > 1. I placed my 7th house as B and computed the powers through the > > > excel sheet. > > > > > > 2. Lord of D, E happen to by moon and jupiter. > > > > > > Now usually the lords of D and E as I take it will go to produce > the > > > results if they are poweful (Above 12 points in the chart) in my > case > > > moon has 22 point and jupiter has 20 points. > > > > > > However if I understand this system to any correctness it seems > that > > > jupiter would not give the results since its aspecting one of the > > > significator houses in this case house 11 from lagna (which is C) > > > using the upachaya method. Hence its moon bukti that would give me > > > marriage. > > > > > > However the only problem I see with that is Id be 39 years old > lol > > > and I doubt that I would want to marry then apprently the free > will of > > > mine would not wait that long > > > > > > So I guess that does not leave too much scope in terms of lords of > > > planets D & E I guess then I would have to fall back on the next > line > > > of reasoning which might be mercury and so on again pushing me in > my > > > mid 30s hence pretty much nothing for the next 10 years in > marriage > > > for me...... > > > > > > Suprisinly the true vedic astrology yields different results in > terms > > > of my marriage. I will state that later on once I can get a clear > > > understanding of this system. > > > > > > I hope you will answer my query and guide me through the system > since > > > I definetely need some guidance in the way of words rather than me > > > turning to books. > > > > > > Benjamin franklin once said " Tell me and I may forget, show me > and I > > > possibly would try to remeber, involve me and I will never > forget " > > > > > > so I hope you see where I am coming from and would expect a > sincere > > > response from your end. > > > > > > Best regards > > > Amit > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > > > > > You are getting confused. I think you are trying to hurry up > too much > > > > and mixing up things. I would suggest that you read the lessons > again > > > > carefully and slowly. > > > > > > > > For marriage 7th house is considered as B, not 2nd house. 2nd > house is > > > > karak for marriage. So, B is 7th, A will be 2nd, D will be 4th, > E is > > > > 12th and C is 11th. 7th lesson shows how to construct WS for > marriage > > > > and it is explained in much detail there. Please read that > lesson > > > > carefully. > > > > > > > > You are taking B as 2nd for marriage and that is incorrect. > > > > > > > > Again, go slow and prefer not to start with your chart. > > > > > > > > I appreciate your effect and keep going. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " planck12 " > > > > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Another follow up to my pervious post. > > > > > > > > > > If I treat H2 as B for marriage, my 3rd is cancer (moon) 6th > is > > > > > (libra) 10 is cap and 11 is pices (jupiter) > > > > > > > > > > however looking at the strongest signifiactor amogest these > which is > > > > > venus (this is from the H2 tab in excel) again that period > falls way > > > > > beyond logical sense for my marriage. > > > > > > > > > > So that does not work either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " planck12 " > > > > > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ash or Manu, > > > > > > I am trying to practically apply the principles given in the > > > notes and > > > > > > have been confused. Until ofcourse I can practically apply > them > > > to my > > > > > > chart and know what they mean I think it would be hard for > me to > > > pick > > > > > > up the system. > > > > > > > > > > > > So I need your assistance and help in following a certain > aspect > > > of my > > > > > > chart so I can see what is the way to work through a > particular > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Consdering I want to see my marriage as to what period it > will > > > > happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to understand and (if Ive understood correctly) > > that one > > > > > > has to look at the 3,6,10th and 11th from the 7th house. So > > > basically > > > > > > the upachaya from the 7th house and the planets or the > lords of > > > these > > > > > > houses. Then which ever is the strongest would yield the > result > > > > > > provided this planet is not aspecting the signifactor > houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the same token when I apply this to my chart (aries > acedent) > > > my 7th > > > > > > house is libra and hence so the 3rd to this is saggi > (jupiter), > > > 6th is > > > > > > piseas(again Jupiter) 10th cancer (moon) and 11th is leo > (sun) but > > > > > > with jupiter situation in it with 5 bindus > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if I understand this system correctly, I turn to my > > workbook and > > > > > > click the Tab H7 in the excel file which apprently treats > the 7th > > > > > > house as house B and gives the strengths of all the planets > in > > > which I > > > > > > see moon having the highest strength followed by jupiter, > however > > > > > > jupiter aspects the 9th house with his 5th aspect which is > the 3rd > > > > > > house from 7th (so a signifcator to the upachaya) hence that > > leaves > > > > > > moon to give the results. > > > > > > > > > > > > So does that mean I get married during moon dasa which does > > not make > > > > > > any sense since that would start in 2019 and I would be > close > > to 40 > > > > > > years of age > > > > > > > > > > > > So can kindly someone walk me through the system on how to > > apply the > > > > > > rules in a step wise fashion rather than suggesting I turn > to > > notes > > > > > > since I have and honestly a bit confused but would like to > > give this > > > > > > sytem an honest chance to learn and see its value and I > need some > > > > > > practical feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S another point of confusion was when I was reading in the > > > notes it > > > > > > said to study the matters of marrage to treat house 2 as > house > > B or > > > > > > the main house and then see the upachayas from this house. > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder which is right and which is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > So if someone can kindly guide it would be much > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > Answers > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Dear Amit, Read the lessons. Its given. As per your surprise, who said MD is not taken into consideration in KAS? Your understanding of transit and what I was refering to is also not correct. Please go through the lessons. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca planck12 <planck12 wrote: Dear Ash, The saturn is transiting in my 5th house with low bindus (16only) which makes sense. Also 5th house has one 0 contributed by mars and which shows difficulty. However I have been running into a difficult time with finances since the past 7 years or so, intially it was education where I had to take loan and pay of my eduction and now its paying back the loan I took, my rent, living expenses etc so there is no saving. This has been going no for a long time. I wanna save and be finanically secure in life. Having seen the 11th house (most planets in there attain benefic points) so does that mean income will be good. I am a bit suprised that the system does not cover the role of Maha dasa lord. Which would be the single most important change I would experiene when Rahu MD changes to jupiter. Your thoughts would be appreciated. regards Amit , " planck12 " <planck12 wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > I sort of understand certain things however still need to work myself > on understanding all the relevent house systems. > > To answer your question about income and career. > > 1. At present I have been totally disatisfied with the job and boss. > In fact I am running through a finanical crisis even at this stage > and have for a long time. > > To clear that point, I have a huge finanical student loan that I am > paying back after my gradutaion in engineering. Hence I am uable to > save, pay for my rest, living expenses and my loan. So I am in a net > debt (considering my loan payoff which is going to last for a while) > perhaps its the trend in canada and north america where we pay for > our eduction and incur student debt before we start to live life > > In-fact as of present nothing seems to be going to my liking, > dissatisfaction in career, delay in marriage and finances are all > over the hill. Hence I had made a posting in the fourm just last week > and I am sure u must have read it " terrible finances and career " . > > So that is the state of affairs as of present. > > My ideal world just like anyone. Is to be rich, finanically secure > and lead a normal comfortable life. I have been turning to astrology > to seek answers rather as concentrte as possible weather I would be > able to become rich get married and lead a comfortable life. > > So if you feel that Jupiter antra is going to bring more expenses > than savings I think I am looking for another rough period that has > existed for the last 8 years or so ever since I started my education. > > Let me know of your thoughts, also let me know how you look at > finances and income (in traditional astrology its artha trikona > houses) which is 2, 6, 11, 10 (for expenses its 12th) what about in > this system. > > Also if I understood correctly if u see my 11th house it all planets > excpet one have benefic points so wouldnt their antras bring good in > its period for income and gain (considering 11th is considered for > gain and income in this sytem) > > thanks > Amit > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh and Amit, > > Please check sa's tr now and also the past 3 antras from i.e sun, > moon > > and mars and check their power for 6th and 10th. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amit, > > > When u read the lessons you may find that Lod and LoE always > gives > > benefic results.In ur chart LoD is Mo and LoE is Ju. So Ju also may > > give result when its antara comes into play irrespecive of its > aspect > > on any significant houses. > > > Currently you are passing through Ma antara in Ra main. Ma is in > > 12th house from 7th as B. Ma is weak in WS for 7th house matter > with 8 > > points only. Ma can not give result for 7th. > > > Me is your 6th lord and occupy strongly house D thereby spoiling > > house D. > > > When your Ju anara starts from 02 Jan 2008 your expenditures may > > shoot up compared to your savings or income. > > > At present your income is high with less effort. > > > Amit please tell me whether this is correct. > > > Thanks and regard. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > planck12 <planck12@> wrote: > > > Dear Manu, > > > As mentioned in my previous post I had also tried setting the 7th > > > house as B. > > > > > > The reason I am trying to study my own chart is because thats the > best > > > way I can understand a system. I am quite well versed with the > > > parashara and jaimin since IVe been practicing astrology since I > was > > > 10 years of age. However stumbling on this website I decided to > see > > > how accurate the krushana system was and hence needed to > understand > > > it. i feel only if I can understand my own chart and convience > myself > > > of its accuracy can I learn it. Also I am in the best position to > > > judge my life and how it is heading hence if I analyze my own > chart it > > > will give me a better understanding of the system intially for me > to > > > learn it well. > > > > > > So coming back to your advice. > > > > > > 1. I placed my 7th house as B and computed the powers through the > > > excel sheet. > > > > > > 2. Lord of D, E happen to by moon and jupiter. > > > > > > Now usually the lords of D and E as I take it will go to produce > the > > > results if they are poweful (Above 12 points in the chart) in my > case > > > moon has 22 point and jupiter has 20 points. > > > > > > However if I understand this system to any correctness it seems > that > > > jupiter would not give the results since its aspecting one of the > > > significator houses in this case house 11 from lagna (which is C) > > > using the upachaya method. Hence its moon bukti that would give me > > > marriage. > > > > > > However the only problem I see with that is Id be 39 years old > lol > > > and I doubt that I would want to marry then apprently the free > will of > > > mine would not wait that long > > > > > > So I guess that does not leave too much scope in terms of lords of > > > planets D & E I guess then I would have to fall back on the next > line > > > of reasoning which might be mercury and so on again pushing me in > my > > > mid 30s hence pretty much nothing for the next 10 years in > marriage > > > for me...... > > > > > > Suprisinly the true vedic astrology yields different results in > terms > > > of my marriage. I will state that later on once I can get a clear > > > understanding of this system. > > > > > > I hope you will answer my query and guide me through the system > since > > > I definetely need some guidance in the way of words rather than me > > > turning to books. > > > > > > Benjamin franklin once said " Tell me and I may forget, show me > and I > > > possibly would try to remeber, involve me and I will never > forget " > > > > > > so I hope you see where I am coming from and would expect a > sincere > > > response from your end. > > > > > > Best regards > > > Amit > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > > > > > You are getting confused. I think you are trying to hurry up > too much > > > > and mixing up things. I would suggest that you read the lessons > again > > > > carefully and slowly. > > > > > > > > For marriage 7th house is considered as B, not 2nd house. 2nd > house is > > > > karak for marriage. So, B is 7th, A will be 2nd, D will be 4th, > E is > > > > 12th and C is 11th. 7th lesson shows how to construct WS for > marriage > > > > and it is explained in much detail there. Please read that > lesson > > > > carefully. > > > > > > > > You are taking B as 2nd for marriage and that is incorrect. > > > > > > > > Again, go slow and prefer not to start with your chart. > > > > > > > > I appreciate your effect and keep going. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " planck12 " > > > > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Another follow up to my pervious post. > > > > > > > > > > If I treat H2 as B for marriage, my 3rd is cancer (moon) 6th > is > > > > > (libra) 10 is cap and 11 is pices (jupiter) > > > > > > > > > > however looking at the strongest signifiactor amogest these > which is > > > > > venus (this is from the H2 tab in excel) again that period > falls way > > > > > beyond logical sense for my marriage. > > > > > > > > > > So that does not work either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " planck12 " > > > > > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ash or Manu, > > > > > > I am trying to practically apply the principles given in the > > > notes and > > > > > > have been confused. Until ofcourse I can practically apply > them > > > to my > > > > > > chart and know what they mean I think it would be hard for > me to > > > pick > > > > > > up the system. > > > > > > > > > > > > So I need your assistance and help in following a certain > aspect > > > of my > > > > > > chart so I can see what is the way to work through a > particular > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Consdering I want to see my marriage as to what period it > will > > > > happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to understand and (if Ive understood correctly) > > that one > > > > > > has to look at the 3,6,10th and 11th from the 7th house. So > > > basically > > > > > > the upachaya from the 7th house and the planets or the > lords of > > > these > > > > > > houses. Then which ever is the strongest would yield the > result > > > > > > provided this planet is not aspecting the signifactor > houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > By the same token when I apply this to my chart (aries > acedent) > > > my 7th > > > > > > house is libra and hence so the 3rd to this is saggi > (jupiter), > > > 6th is > > > > > > piseas(again Jupiter) 10th cancer (moon) and 11th is leo > (sun) but > > > > > > with jupiter situation in it with 5 bindus > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if I understand this system correctly, I turn to my > > workbook and > > > > > > click the Tab H7 in the excel file which apprently treats > the 7th > > > > > > house as house B and gives the strengths of all the planets > in > > > which I > > > > > > see moon having the highest strength followed by jupiter, > however > > > > > > jupiter aspects the 9th house with his 5th aspect which is > the 3rd > > > > > > house from 7th (so a signifcator to the upachaya) hence that > > leaves > > > > > > moon to give the results. > > > > > > > > > > > > So does that mean I get married during moon dasa which does > > not make > > > > > > any sense since that would start in 2019 and I would be > close > > to 40 > > > > > > years of age > > > > > > > > > > > > So can kindly someone walk me through the system on how to > > apply the > > > > > > rules in a step wise fashion rather than suggesting I turn > to > > notes > > > > > > since I have and honestly a bit confused but would like to > > give this > > > > > > sytem an honest chance to learn and see its value and I > need some > > > > > > practical feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S another point of confusion was when I was reading in the > > > notes it > > > > > > said to study the matters of marrage to treat house 2 as > house > > B or > > > > > > the main house and then see the upachayas from this house. > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder which is right and which is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > So if someone can kindly guide it would be much > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > Answers > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 , Ash <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Ash, In terms of transit what I understood from reading the lessons was that as of present saturn is transitin in the 5th house and 5th house has one 0 as contributed by mars. As per checking the lord strength of sun,mars and moon for 6th and 10th they are weak with below 12 points. It would be much appreciated if you can direct me particularly towards the lesson you refer too so that Iknow what I am looking for. rather than spending time on incorrect pursuits. For instance can you refer me to the lesson which talks about Maha Dasa. I am not asking you to read my chart for me all I am trying to do is get the proper guidance with so much information floating around and rules confliting each other. Thanks regards Amit P.S By the same token again to my understanding the power of jupiter for 6th and 10th is also not strong to give benefic results. I wonder how Sujit came up with the prediction about things improving in july of 2008 when I would be running jupiter dasa. As again I learn from guidance rather than throwing me back to the notes. I have understand some but need correction. > Dear Amit, > Read the lessons. Its given. As per your surprise, who said MD is not taken into consideration in KAS? > Your understanding of transit and what I was refering to is also not correct. > Please go through the lessons. > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > planck12 <planck12 wrote: Dear Ash, > > The saturn is transiting in my 5th house with low bindus (16only) > which makes sense. Also 5th house has one 0 contributed by mars and > which shows difficulty. > > However I have been running into a difficult time with finances since > the past 7 years or so, intially it was education where I had to take > loan and pay of my eduction and now its paying back the loan I took, > my rent, living expenses etc so there is no saving. This has been > going no for a long time. > > I wanna save and be finanically secure in life. > > Having seen the 11th house (most planets in there attain benefic > points) so does that mean income will be good. > > I am a bit suprised that the system does not cover the role of Maha > dasa lord. Which would be the single most important change I would > experiene when Rahu MD changes to jupiter. > > Your thoughts would be appreciated. > > regards > Amit > > , " planck12 " > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > I sort of understand certain things however still need to work > myself > > on understanding all the relevent house systems. > > > > To answer your question about income and career. > > > > 1. At present I have been totally disatisfied with the job and > boss. > > In fact I am running through a finanical crisis even at this stage > > and have for a long time. > > > > To clear that point, I have a huge finanical student loan that I am > > paying back after my gradutaion in engineering. Hence I am uable to > > save, pay for my rest, living expenses and my loan. So I am in a > net > > debt (considering my loan payoff which is going to last for a > while) > > perhaps its the trend in canada and north america where we pay for > > our eduction and incur student debt before we start to live life > > > > In-fact as of present nothing seems to be going to my liking, > > dissatisfaction in career, delay in marriage and finances are all > > over the hill. Hence I had made a posting in the fourm just last > week > > and I am sure u must have read it " terrible finances and career " . > > > > So that is the state of affairs as of present. > > > > My ideal world just like anyone. Is to be rich, finanically > secure > > and lead a normal comfortable life. I have been turning to > astrology > > to seek answers rather as concentrte as possible weather I would be > > able to become rich get married and lead a comfortable life. > > > > So if you feel that Jupiter antra is going to bring more expenses > > than savings I think I am looking for another rough period that has > > existed for the last 8 years or so ever since I started my > education. > > > > Let me know of your thoughts, also let me know how you look at > > finances and income (in traditional astrology its artha trikona > > houses) which is 2, 6, 11, 10 (for expenses its 12th) what about in > > this system. > > > > Also if I understood correctly if u see my 11th house it all > planets > > excpet one have benefic points so wouldnt their antras bring good > in > > its period for income and gain (considering 11th is considered for > > gain and income in this sytem) > > > > thanks > > Amit > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh and Amit, > > > Please check sa's tr now and also the past 3 antras from i.e sun, > > moon > > > and mars and check their power for 6th and 10th. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > When u read the lessons you may find that Lod and LoE always > > gives > > > benefic results.In ur chart LoD is Mo and LoE is Ju. So Ju also > may > > > give result when its antara comes into play irrespecive of its > > aspect > > > on any significant houses. > > > > Currently you are passing through Ma antara in Ra main. Ma is > in > > > 12th house from 7th as B. Ma is weak in WS for 7th house matter > > with 8 > > > points only. Ma can not give result for 7th. > > > > Me is your 6th lord and occupy strongly house D thereby > spoiling > > > house D. > > > > When your Ju anara starts from 02 Jan 2008 your expenditures > may > > > shoot up compared to your savings or income. > > > > At present your income is high with less effort. > > > > Amit please tell me whether this is correct. > > > > Thanks and regard. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > planck12 <planck12@> wrote: > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > As mentioned in my previous post I had also tried setting the > 7th > > > > house as B. > > > > > > > > The reason I am trying to study my own chart is because thats > the > > best > > > > way I can understand a system. I am quite well versed with the > > > > parashara and jaimin since IVe been practicing astrology since > I > > was > > > > 10 years of age. However stumbling on this website I decided to > > see > > > > how accurate the krushana system was and hence needed to > > understand > > > > it. i feel only if I can understand my own chart and convience > > myself > > > > of its accuracy can I learn it. Also I am in the best position > to > > > > judge my life and how it is heading hence if I analyze my own > > chart it > > > > will give me a better understanding of the system intially for > me > > to > > > > learn it well. > > > > > > > > So coming back to your advice. > > > > > > > > 1. I placed my 7th house as B and computed the powers through > the > > > > excel sheet. > > > > > > > > 2. Lord of D, E happen to by moon and jupiter. > > > > > > > > Now usually the lords of D and E as I take it will go to > produce > > the > > > > results if they are poweful (Above 12 points in the chart) in > my > > case > > > > moon has 22 point and jupiter has 20 points. > > > > > > > > However if I understand this system to any correctness it seems > > that > > > > jupiter would not give the results since its aspecting one of > the > > > > significator houses in this case house 11 from lagna (which is > C) > > > > using the upachaya method. Hence its moon bukti that would give > me > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > However the only problem I see with that is Id be 39 years > old > > lol > > > > and I doubt that I would want to marry then apprently the free > > will of > > > > mine would not wait that long > > > > > > > > So I guess that does not leave too much scope in terms of lords > of > > > > planets D & E I guess then I would have to fall back on the > next > > line > > > > of reasoning which might be mercury and so on again pushing me > in > > my > > > > mid 30s hence pretty much nothing for the next 10 years in > > marriage > > > > for me...... > > > > > > > > Suprisinly the true vedic astrology yields different results in > > terms > > > > of my marriage. I will state that later on once I can get a > clear > > > > understanding of this system. > > > > > > > > I hope you will answer my query and guide me through the system > > since > > > > I definetely need some guidance in the way of words rather than > me > > > > turning to books. > > > > > > > > Benjamin franklin once said " Tell me and I may forget, show me > > and I > > > > possibly would try to remeber, involve me and I will never > > forget " > > > > > > > > so I hope you see where I am coming from and would expect a > > sincere > > > > response from your end. > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > > > > > > > You are getting confused. I think you are trying to hurry up > > too much > > > > > and mixing up things. I would suggest that you read the > lessons > > again > > > > > carefully and slowly. > > > > > > > > > > For marriage 7th house is considered as B, not 2nd house. 2nd > > house is > > > > > karak for marriage. So, B is 7th, A will be 2nd, D will be > 4th, > > E is > > > > > 12th and C is 11th. 7th lesson shows how to construct WS for > > marriage > > > > > and it is explained in much detail there. Please read that > > lesson > > > > > carefully. > > > > > > > > > > You are taking B as 2nd for marriage and that is incorrect. > > > > > > > > > > Again, go slow and prefer not to start with your chart. > > > > > > > > > > I appreciate your effect and keep going. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " planck12 " > > > > > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Another follow up to my pervious post. > > > > > > > > > > > > If I treat H2 as B for marriage, my 3rd is cancer (moon) > 6th > > is > > > > > > (libra) 10 is cap and 11 is pices (jupiter) > > > > > > > > > > > > however looking at the strongest signifiactor amogest these > > which is > > > > > > venus (this is from the H2 tab in excel) again that period > > falls way > > > > > > beyond logical sense for my marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > So that does not work either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " planck12 " > > > > > > <planck12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ash or Manu, > > > > > > > I am trying to practically apply the principles given in > the > > > > notes and > > > > > > > have been confused. Until ofcourse I can practically > apply > > them > > > > to my > > > > > > > chart and know what they mean I think it would be hard > for > > me to > > > > pick > > > > > > > up the system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I need your assistance and help in following a certain > > aspect > > > > of my > > > > > > > chart so I can see what is the way to work through a > > particular > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Consdering I want to see my marriage as to what period it > > will > > > > > happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am trying to understand and (if Ive understood > correctly) > > > that one > > > > > > > has to look at the 3,6,10th and 11th from the 7th house. > So > > > > basically > > > > > > > the upachaya from the 7th house and the planets or the > > lords of > > > > these > > > > > > > houses. Then which ever is the strongest would yield the > > result > > > > > > > provided this planet is not aspecting the signifactor > > houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the same token when I apply this to my chart (aries > > acedent) > > > > my 7th > > > > > > > house is libra and hence so the 3rd to this is saggi > > (jupiter), > > > > 6th is > > > > > > > piseas(again Jupiter) 10th cancer (moon) and 11th is leo > > (sun) but > > > > > > > with jupiter situation in it with 5 bindus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if I understand this system correctly, I turn to my > > > workbook and > > > > > > > click the Tab H7 in the excel file which apprently treats > > the 7th > > > > > > > house as house B and gives the strengths of all the > planets > > in > > > > which I > > > > > > > see moon having the highest strength followed by jupiter, > > however > > > > > > > jupiter aspects the 9th house with his 5th aspect which > is > > the 3rd > > > > > > > house from 7th (so a signifcator to the upachaya) hence > that > > > leaves > > > > > > > moon to give the results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So does that mean I get married during moon dasa which > does > > > not make > > > > > > > any sense since that would start in 2019 and I would be > > close > > > to 40 > > > > > > > years of age > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So can kindly someone walk me through the system on how to > > > apply the > > > > > > > rules in a step wise fashion rather than suggesting I > turn > > to > > > notes > > > > > > > since I have and honestly a bit confused but would like to > > > give this > > > > > > > sytem an honest chance to learn and see its value and I > > need some > > > > > > > practical feedback. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S another point of confusion was when I was reading in > the > > > > notes it > > > > > > > said to study the matters of marrage to treat house 2 as > > house > > > B or > > > > > > > the main house and then see the upachayas from this > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder which is right and which is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So if someone can kindly guide it would be much > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > > Answers > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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