Another Chart to Solve--Manu,Bala,Ramesh,Hatjeet,and All

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Here is the date of marriage:

 

24th Decemeber 2005

 

Marriage was held in lowest points.

 

I have not discussed the chart with Ash so may be Manu and Bala are

in a better position to explain the reason behind it.

 

According to me the reasons could be:

 

1)checking the 1:7 planet positions

(a) From Lagna- Mars:Venus=2:12 (bad)

(b) From Sun- Moon:Saturn=6:8 (bad)

© From Moon- jupiter:mercury=3:11 (not bad)

 

5th house points are all low, if that has anything to do with

marriage in low points.

 

About children, this lady had her first conception in November 2006

and she had a miscarriage in two months time. Conception happened as

soon as Venus antra started (LoD for 5th house) and venus has high

points for 11th house (conception).

 

Bala and Manu if you could explain more on this chart which could be

followed by Ash.

 

Thanks

Manoshi

 

 

 

, " harjeet bakshi "

<harjeet_bakshi wrote:

>

> Hi,

> i would like to attempt it too.

> the time if 00:44 if is 00:43 the lagna in navamsa changes and

saturn

> goes to the 5th house... aspecting A,B AND C for 7th house.

> jupiter is with venus the lord of B and A.

> so delay by both saturn and jupiter.

> jupiter is in libra in navamsa and aspects saturn cant check the

delay

> by saturn.

> there are 2 zereos in navamsa for house 4th and 7th ie D and B.

> jupiter is loE.

> the delay by saturn ends sometimes in 2002.

> that time jupiter is in 4th house...

> i would go for dealy of jupiter ending when it reaches the 7th house

> sometime in 2005 mid...

> mercury antra is going on which cant give marriage..

> next antra is of ketu which is samdhari to jupiter loE can give

> marriage...

> ketu is also in 12th house so in its antra would give the result for

> 8th house from there i.e. 7th..

> may be by the end of second sector or 3rd sector.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

>

>

> , " aarceemastro2002 "

> <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Manoshi, Bala, Nanu,

> > I knew my answer is wrong and it is hinted by Manoshi.

> > Marriage can not be in Su-Su.But this chart is showing love

marriage

> > because LoE Ju and LoA PLUS LoB Ve both are together in 3rd house

and

> > aspected malefically by Mo LoD.Since the aspect of LoD and LoE in

not

> > considered malefic,Mo being LoD might have given marriage.

> > On the other hand if you see the points of Lagna Lord Ma and its

7th

> > lord Ve then it is in 2/12 combination so 5 points. Mo/Sa is in

6/8

> > so 0 point and Me/Ju in 3/11 so 20 points.Therefore it comes out

> > total 25 points.It is showing unhappy married life.

> > Ve and Ju both are closely conjunct and they are in lagna in

libra

> > navamsa alongwith Su.

> > Antara of Su can not give marriage. Mo antara can not give

marriage

> > because it is spoiled due to association with 6th lord Me and so

Ma

> > also in navamsa.

> > Ra is in 6th house and represents Me.Since the marriage is

unhappy, I

> > came to the conclusion that marriage might happen in Ra antra of

Su

> > main.Ra antara runs from 31 Oct 2002 to 24 Sep 2004.The marriage

> > might be in 3rd sector which comes from 6 Jun 2003 to 24 Sep 2003.

> > Therefore it is concluded with the approximate date of marriage

might

> > be sometime between Jun/2003 and Sep/2003 in Su/Ra.

> > If this is also incorrect then I am myself helpless.

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > , " Manoshi

Chatterjee "

> > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh, Manu and Bala,

> > >

> > > I will post the answer on Tuesday. Please look into the chart

again

> > > and very closely. Though I myself was not able to solve the

chart,

> > > but later as Ash told me the EXACT antra, I was taken aback. I

> > still

> > > dont know exactly what Ash must have read in the chart to find

out

> > > the correct marriage time.

> > >

> > > None of you are correct yet. Please try again. Please read the

> > chart

> > > again closely before coming to any conclusion.

> > >

> > > All the best

> > >

> > > --Manoshi

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Manu Batura "

> > > <manubatura@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Didi,

> > > >

> > > > Interesting chart....thanks.

> > > >

> > > > Asc is 23ari02.

> > > >

> > > > Since, Ash has solved the chart, I am assuming the birth time

to

> > be

> > > > rectified.

> > > >

> > > > Following are some observations:

> > > >

> > > > 1. Sa aspects A, B, C in navamsa.

> > > > 2. Ju aspects Sa in navamsa but it is in lib.

> > > > 3. Ju also aspects B and with LoA in rasi.

> > > > 4. Sa delay till Aug 2002.

> > > > 5. I think delay will be over in me antra.

> > > > 6. Me weak for marriage.

> > > > 7. Next is ke, ke SD to Ju and Me. Ke will give marriage.

> > > > 8. First sector from may 2006 to june 2006 is what I think

should

> > be

> > > > the time for marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Shall wait for correct answer.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks again.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Manu

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee "

> > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi All,

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is a chart to solve for all of you. Time MARRIAGE for

the

> > > female

> > > > > native. I could not do it but Ash did it EXACT. Also, what

> > > prospects do

> > > > > you see for the child birth of the native?

> > > > >

> > > > > here are the details:

> > > > >

> > > > > Birth date: 28 July 1977

> > > > >

> > > > > Birth Time: 0 hours 44 Minutes

> > > > >

> > > > > Birth co-ordiantes:

> > > > >

> > > > > 10N31

> > > > > 76E13

> > > > >

> > > > > India

> > > > >

> > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

thanks for the post Manoshiji...

so its the lowest and 6th lord antra too... if i am not mistaken.

i would also like to know from Manu, Bala, Ashji or yourself that 2

zeroes in navamsa that too in 4th house D and 7th house B are someway

responsible too besides what you explained.. ?

yeah i had noticed that for the 5th house all the planets were weak in

the worksheet and for the 12th i guess only 2 planets were having 12

or above points...

this is very interesting post and would be keenly waiting on Ashji's

expertise on this chart.

thanks/regards

harjeet

 

, " Manoshi Chatterjee "

<khallopapa wrote:

>

> Here is the date of marriage:

>

> 24th Decemeber 2005

>

> Marriage was held in lowest points.

>

> I have not discussed the chart with Ash so may be Manu and Bala are

> in a better position to explain the reason behind it.

>

> According to me the reasons could be:

>

> 1)checking the 1:7 planet positions

> (a) From Lagna- Mars:Venus=2:12 (bad)

> (b) From Sun- Moon:Saturn=6:8 (bad)

> © From Moon- jupiter:mercury=3:11 (not bad)

>

> 5th house points are all low, if that has anything to do with

> marriage in low points.

>

> About children, this lady had her first conception in November 2006

> and she had a miscarriage in two months time. Conception happened as

> soon as Venus antra started (LoD for 5th house) and venus has high

> points for 11th house (conception).

>

> Bala and Manu if you could explain more on this chart which could be

> followed by Ash.

>

> Thanks

> Manoshi

>

>

>

> , " harjeet bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> > i would like to attempt it too.

> > the time if 00:44 if is 00:43 the lagna in navamsa changes and

> saturn

> > goes to the 5th house... aspecting A,B AND C for 7th house.

> > jupiter is with venus the lord of B and A.

> > so delay by both saturn and jupiter.

> > jupiter is in libra in navamsa and aspects saturn cant check the

> delay

> > by saturn.

> > there are 2 zereos in navamsa for house 4th and 7th ie D and B.

> > jupiter is loE.

> > the delay by saturn ends sometimes in 2002.

> > that time jupiter is in 4th house...

> > i would go for dealy of jupiter ending when it reaches the 7th house

> > sometime in 2005 mid...

> > mercury antra is going on which cant give marriage..

> > next antra is of ketu which is samdhari to jupiter loE can give

> > marriage...

> > ketu is also in 12th house so in its antra would give the result for

> > 8th house from there i.e. 7th..

> > may be by the end of second sector or 3rd sector.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> >

> >

> > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Manoshi, Bala, Nanu,

> > > I knew my answer is wrong and it is hinted by Manoshi.

> > > Marriage can not be in Su-Su.But this chart is showing love

> marriage

> > > because LoE Ju and LoA PLUS LoB Ve both are together in 3rd house

> and

> > > aspected malefically by Mo LoD.Since the aspect of LoD and LoE in

> not

> > > considered malefic,Mo being LoD might have given marriage.

> > > On the other hand if you see the points of Lagna Lord Ma and its

> 7th

> > > lord Ve then it is in 2/12 combination so 5 points. Mo/Sa is in

> 6/8

> > > so 0 point and Me/Ju in 3/11 so 20 points.Therefore it comes out

> > > total 25 points.It is showing unhappy married life.

> > > Ve and Ju both are closely conjunct and they are in lagna in

> libra

> > > navamsa alongwith Su.

> > > Antara of Su can not give marriage. Mo antara can not give

> marriage

> > > because it is spoiled due to association with 6th lord Me and so

> Ma

> > > also in navamsa.

> > > Ra is in 6th house and represents Me.Since the marriage is

> unhappy, I

> > > came to the conclusion that marriage might happen in Ra antra of

> Su

> > > main.Ra antara runs from 31 Oct 2002 to 24 Sep 2004.The marriage

> > > might be in 3rd sector which comes from 6 Jun 2003 to 24 Sep 2003.

> > > Therefore it is concluded with the approximate date of marriage

> might

> > > be sometime between Jun/2003 and Sep/2003 in Su/Ra.

> > > If this is also incorrect then I am myself helpless.

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > , " Manoshi

> Chatterjee "

> > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramesh, Manu and Bala,

> > > >

> > > > I will post the answer on Tuesday. Please look into the chart

> again

> > > > and very closely. Though I myself was not able to solve the

> chart,

> > > > but later as Ash told me the EXACT antra, I was taken aback. I

> > > still

> > > > dont know exactly what Ash must have read in the chart to find

> out

> > > > the correct marriage time.

> > > >

> > > > None of you are correct yet. Please try again. Please read the

> > > chart

> > > > again closely before coming to any conclusion.

> > > >

> > > > All the best

> > > >

> > > > --Manoshi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Manu Batura "

> > > > <manubatura@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Didi,

> > > > >

> > > > > Interesting chart....thanks.

> > > > >

> > > > > Asc is 23ari02.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since, Ash has solved the chart, I am assuming the birth time

> to

> > > be

> > > > > rectified.

> > > > >

> > > > > Following are some observations:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Sa aspects A, B, C in navamsa.

> > > > > 2. Ju aspects Sa in navamsa but it is in lib.

> > > > > 3. Ju also aspects B and with LoA in rasi.

> > > > > 4. Sa delay till Aug 2002.

> > > > > 5. I think delay will be over in me antra.

> > > > > 6. Me weak for marriage.

> > > > > 7. Next is ke, ke SD to Ju and Me. Ke will give marriage.

> > > > > 8. First sector from may 2006 to june 2006 is what I think

> should

> > > be

> > > > > the time for marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > Shall wait for correct answer.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks again.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Manu

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here is a chart to solve for all of you. Time MARRIAGE for

> the

> > > > female

> > > > > > native. I could not do it but Ash did it EXACT. Also, what

> > > > prospects do

> > > > > > you see for the child birth of the native?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > here are the details:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Birth date: 28 July 1977

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Birth Time: 0 hours 44 Minutes

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Birth co-ordiantes:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 10N31

> > > > > > 76E13

> > > > > >

> > > > > > India

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoshi, Manu, Bala, Ramesh, Harjeet and all list members,

 

The first thing to do is to identify the basic chart before dwelling

into timing of event.

 

So first study the overall make up of the chart.

 

Here you can see the following.

 

Lagna point is 36 so its showing an adamant, hot headed and egoistic

nature. Moon is in sign of Guru in Rasi and in a fixed sign in

navamsa i.e. Taurus its unccha rasi.

 

You can also see 3 sectors of Venus and 2 sectors of Guru i.e. lagna,

sun and moon in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa.

 

You can also see 6th lord is in 5th house (in 12th) so the status of

5th house, 5th lord is in 4th house so in 12th, for 3rd house, 12th

lord from 3rd is in 3rd and for 2nd house, its 12th lord i.e 1st lord

is in 2nd house.

 

You will also notice, Jupiter is in libra in this chart (in navamsa).

 

Now there is full delay due to Saturn and Jupiter both. Sa is at

25deg39 in Cancer. There after when Jupiter's delay is over when

Jupiter will touch 7th house. This happens

 

By the time delay is over its around 1st October 2005. So marriage

will happen after that.

 

That time Mercury antra is running.

 

Before that, we can see Ra and Ma are aspecting 5th house and 11th

hosue in Navamsa. Mostly all house points for 2nd, 5th, 12th and 11th

are all low. Ma and Ve are 2:12 (lagna and 7th), Me and Ju are in

3:11 (Mo and 7th) and from sun and 7th i.e. sa and mo are in 6:8,

Venus and 7th i.e. Jupiter and Mercury are in 3:11, so all these

things are showing adjustment and especially with such high points in

lagna one would have to do more adjusting and it would be even more

challenging.

 

If you also see the house average the total points are less than 84

for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, 10th and 12th. For 11th

house its 85 so barely 1 over average, and for 7th house its 99.

 

So overall happiness from each house is also less.

 

So overall the happiness is less or child birth is difficult.

 

So based on all points, its clear that this is a chart holds less

promise of a happy marital life and there will be more challenge and

adjustment.

 

So Mercury, being the lowest power planet and 6th lord would give

marriage, as per our law that unhappy marriages will happen in lowest

power planet.

 

I think all of you saw that the marriage was unhappy, and all of you

pointed this out in some form or the other in your mails. The only

mistake you all did was u did not go for lowest power planet. So this

chart is a very good chart for learning.

 

Now next is sector. There is full delay in this chart so 3rd sector

would give marriage. This marriage happened in the every end of 2nd

sector and if you consider 13 days difference when 3rd sector of

mercury starts it would be hardly 15 days difference.

 

This marriage happened in the pdf of Ju and Ketu i.e when Sun was

transitting the sign of Guru and nakshatra of Ketu.

 

Guru is the highest power planet and Ketu is in house so so is eager

to give and hence the marriage happened in the highest 2 power planet.

 

So we took Mercury as antra and then Ju and Ketu for pdf.

 

In any case, when I read all of your analysis, I was very happy, as

all of you were on the right track. All of you have pointed out this

is not a chart of a happy marriage and there seemed to be some problem.

 

In any case, more and more practice will get you all perfect.

 

Very good attempt, by all, and Manoshi thanks for sending this chart

to the list for practice.

 

Kudos to all of you. Well Done !!!

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

, " harjeet bakshi "

<harjeet_bakshi wrote:

>

> thanks for the post Manoshiji...

> so its the lowest and 6th lord antra too... if i am not mistaken.

> i would also like to know from Manu, Bala, Ashji or yourself that 2

> zeroes in navamsa that too in 4th house D and 7th house B are someway

> responsible too besides what you explained.. ?

> yeah i had noticed that for the 5th house all the planets were weak in

> the worksheet and for the 12th i guess only 2 planets were having 12

> or above points...

> this is very interesting post and would be keenly waiting on Ashji's

> expertise on this chart.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> , " Manoshi Chatterjee "

> <khallopapa@> wrote:

> >

> > Here is the date of marriage:

> >

> > 24th Decemeber 2005

> >

> > Marriage was held in lowest points.

> >

> > I have not discussed the chart with Ash so may be Manu and Bala are

> > in a better position to explain the reason behind it.

> >

> > According to me the reasons could be:

> >

> > 1)checking the 1:7 planet positions

> > (a) From Lagna- Mars:Venus=2:12 (bad)

> > (b) From Sun- Moon:Saturn=6:8 (bad)

> > © From Moon- jupiter:mercury=3:11 (not bad)

> >

> > 5th house points are all low, if that has anything to do with

> > marriage in low points.

> >

> > About children, this lady had her first conception in November 2006

> > and she had a miscarriage in two months time. Conception happened as

> > soon as Venus antra started (LoD for 5th house) and venus has high

> > points for 11th house (conception).

> >

> > Bala and Manu if you could explain more on this chart which could be

> > followed by Ash.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Manoshi

> >

> >

> >

> > , " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > > i would like to attempt it too.

> > > the time if 00:44 if is 00:43 the lagna in navamsa changes and

> > saturn

> > > goes to the 5th house... aspecting A,B AND C for 7th house.

> > > jupiter is with venus the lord of B and A.

> > > so delay by both saturn and jupiter.

> > > jupiter is in libra in navamsa and aspects saturn cant check the

> > delay

> > > by saturn.

> > > there are 2 zereos in navamsa for house 4th and 7th ie D and B.

> > > jupiter is loE.

> > > the delay by saturn ends sometimes in 2002.

> > > that time jupiter is in 4th house...

> > > i would go for dealy of jupiter ending when it reaches the 7th house

> > > sometime in 2005 mid...

> > > mercury antra is going on which cant give marriage..

> > > next antra is of ketu which is samdhari to jupiter loE can give

> > > marriage...

> > > ketu is also in 12th house so in its antra would give the result for

> > > 8th house from there i.e. 7th..

> > > may be by the end of second sector or 3rd sector.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Manoshi, Bala, Nanu,

> > > > I knew my answer is wrong and it is hinted by Manoshi.

> > > > Marriage can not be in Su-Su.But this chart is showing love

> > marriage

> > > > because LoE Ju and LoA PLUS LoB Ve both are together in 3rd house

> > and

> > > > aspected malefically by Mo LoD.Since the aspect of LoD and LoE in

> > not

> > > > considered malefic,Mo being LoD might have given marriage.

> > > > On the other hand if you see the points of Lagna Lord Ma and its

> > 7th

> > > > lord Ve then it is in 2/12 combination so 5 points. Mo/Sa is in

> > 6/8

> > > > so 0 point and Me/Ju in 3/11 so 20 points.Therefore it comes out

> > > > total 25 points.It is showing unhappy married life.

> > > > Ve and Ju both are closely conjunct and they are in lagna in

> > libra

> > > > navamsa alongwith Su.

> > > > Antara of Su can not give marriage. Mo antara can not give

> > marriage

> > > > because it is spoiled due to association with 6th lord Me and so

> > Ma

> > > > also in navamsa.

> > > > Ra is in 6th house and represents Me.Since the marriage is

> > unhappy, I

> > > > came to the conclusion that marriage might happen in Ra antra of

> > Su

> > > > main.Ra antara runs from 31 Oct 2002 to 24 Sep 2004.The marriage

> > > > might be in 3rd sector which comes from 6 Jun 2003 to 24 Sep 2003.

> > > > Therefore it is concluded with the approximate date of marriage

> > might

> > > > be sometime between Jun/2003 and Sep/2003 in Su/Ra.

> > > > If this is also incorrect then I am myself helpless.

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > , " Manoshi

> > Chatterjee "

> > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh, Manu and Bala,

> > > > >

> > > > > I will post the answer on Tuesday. Please look into the chart

> > again

> > > > > and very closely. Though I myself was not able to solve the

> > chart,

> > > > > but later as Ash told me the EXACT antra, I was taken aback. I

> > > > still

> > > > > dont know exactly what Ash must have read in the chart to find

> > out

> > > > > the correct marriage time.

> > > > >

> > > > > None of you are correct yet. Please try again. Please read the

> > > > chart

> > > > > again closely before coming to any conclusion.

> > > > >

> > > > > All the best

> > > > >

> > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Manu Batura "

> > > > > <manubatura@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Didi,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Interesting chart....thanks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Asc is 23ari02.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since, Ash has solved the chart, I am assuming the birth time

> > to

> > > > be

> > > > > > rectified.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Following are some observations:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Sa aspects A, B, C in navamsa.

> > > > > > 2. Ju aspects Sa in navamsa but it is in lib.

> > > > > > 3. Ju also aspects B and with LoA in rasi.

> > > > > > 4. Sa delay till Aug 2002.

> > > > > > 5. I think delay will be over in me antra.

> > > > > > 6. Me weak for marriage.

> > > > > > 7. Next is ke, ke SD to Ju and Me. Ke will give marriage.

> > > > > > 8. First sector from may 2006 to june 2006 is what I think

> > should

> > > > be

> > > > > > the time for marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Shall wait for correct answer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks again.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Manu

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here is a chart to solve for all of you. Time MARRIAGE for

> > the

> > > > > female

> > > > > > > native. I could not do it but Ash did it EXACT. Also, what

> > > > > prospects do

> > > > > > > you see for the child birth of the native?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > here are the details:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Birth date: 28 July 1977

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Birth Time: 0 hours 44 Minutes

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Birth co-ordiantes:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 10N31

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> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash and Manoshi,

Many many thanks for the explanation in detail.

According to my calculation the composite delay of Sa and Ju is over

on 24 Sep 2005.

At this time native was passing through Me antara in Su

main.Therefore Me antara should not give the event.But the event

happened in the same antara soon its first sector was over and

immediately in second sector the event took place.

I am curious to know that how could you judge the same antara inspite

of being Me with least point in SAV points ?

Though the reason is given by you in mail (DUE TO UNHAPPY MARRIED

LIFE).Still we came across many charts on the same forum that married

life is unhappy and marriage took place in >12 points in WS by

planets.

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Manoshi, Manu, Bala, Ramesh, Harjeet and all list members,

>

> The first thing to do is to identify the basic chart before dwelling

> into timing of event.

>

> So first study the overall make up of the chart.

>

> Here you can see the following.

>

> Lagna point is 36 so its showing an adamant, hot headed and egoistic

> nature. Moon is in sign of Guru in Rasi and in a fixed sign in

> navamsa i.e. Taurus its unccha rasi.

>

> You can also see 3 sectors of Venus and 2 sectors of Guru i.e.

lagna,

> sun and moon in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa.

>

> You can also see 6th lord is in 5th house (in 12th) so the status of

> 5th house, 5th lord is in 4th house so in 12th, for 3rd house, 12th

> lord from 3rd is in 3rd and for 2nd house, its 12th lord i.e 1st

lord

> is in 2nd house.

>

> You will also notice, Jupiter is in libra in this chart (in

navamsa).

>

> Now there is full delay due to Saturn and Jupiter both. Sa is at

> 25deg39 in Cancer. There after when Jupiter's delay is over when

> Jupiter will touch 7th house. This happens

>

> By the time delay is over its around 1st October 2005. So marriage

> will happen after that.

>

> That time Mercury antra is running.

>

> Before that, we can see Ra and Ma are aspecting 5th house and 11th

> hosue in Navamsa. Mostly all house points for 2nd, 5th, 12th and

11th

> are all low. Ma and Ve are 2:12 (lagna and 7th), Me and Ju are in

> 3:11 (Mo and 7th) and from sun and 7th i.e. sa and mo are in 6:8,

> Venus and 7th i.e. Jupiter and Mercury are in 3:11, so all these

> things are showing adjustment and especially with such high points

in

> lagna one would have to do more adjusting and it would be even more

> challenging.

>

> If you also see the house average the total points are less than 84

> for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, 10th and 12th. For 11th

> house its 85 so barely 1 over average, and for 7th house its 99.

>

> So overall happiness from each house is also less.

>

> So overall the happiness is less or child birth is difficult.

>

> So based on all points, its clear that this is a chart holds less

> promise of a happy marital life and there will be more challenge and

> adjustment.

>

> So Mercury, being the lowest power planet and 6th lord would give

> marriage, as per our law that unhappy marriages will happen in

lowest

> power planet.

>

> I think all of you saw that the marriage was unhappy, and all of you

> pointed this out in some form or the other in your mails. The only

> mistake you all did was u did not go for lowest power planet. So

this

> chart is a very good chart for learning.

>

> Now next is sector. There is full delay in this chart so 3rd sector

> would give marriage. This marriage happened in the every end of 2nd

> sector and if you consider 13 days difference when 3rd sector of

> mercury starts it would be hardly 15 days difference.

>

> This marriage happened in the pdf of Ju and Ketu i.e when Sun was

> transitting the sign of Guru and nakshatra of Ketu.

>

> Guru is the highest power planet and Ketu is in house so so is eager

> to give and hence the marriage happened in the highest 2 power

planet.

>

> So we took Mercury as antra and then Ju and Ketu for pdf.

>

> In any case, when I read all of your analysis, I was very happy, as

> all of you were on the right track. All of you have pointed out

this

> is not a chart of a happy marriage and there seemed to be some

problem.

>

> In any case, more and more practice will get you all perfect.

>

> Very good attempt, by all, and Manoshi thanks for sending this chart

> to the list for practice.

>

> Kudos to all of you. Well Done !!!

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

>

>

> , " harjeet bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > thanks for the post Manoshiji...

> > so its the lowest and 6th lord antra too... if i am not mistaken.

> > i would also like to know from Manu, Bala, Ashji or yourself that

2

> > zeroes in navamsa that too in 4th house D and 7th house B are

someway

> > responsible too besides what you explained.. ?

> > yeah i had noticed that for the 5th house all the planets were

weak in

> > the worksheet and for the 12th i guess only 2 planets were having

12

> > or above points...

> > this is very interesting post and would be keenly waiting on

Ashji's

> > expertise on this chart.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > , " Manoshi

Chatterjee "

> > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Here is the date of marriage:

> > >

> > > 24th Decemeber 2005

> > >

> > > Marriage was held in lowest points.

> > >

> > > I have not discussed the chart with Ash so may be Manu and Bala

are

> > > in a better position to explain the reason behind it.

> > >

> > > According to me the reasons could be:

> > >

> > > 1)checking the 1:7 planet positions

> > > (a) From Lagna- Mars:Venus=2:12 (bad)

> > > (b) From Sun- Moon:Saturn=6:8 (bad)

> > > © From Moon- jupiter:mercury=3:11 (not bad)

> > >

> > > 5th house points are all low, if that has anything to do with

> > > marriage in low points.

> > >

> > > About children, this lady had her first conception in November

2006

> > > and she had a miscarriage in two months time. Conception

happened as

> > > soon as Venus antra started (LoD for 5th house) and venus has

high

> > > points for 11th house (conception).

> > >

> > > Bala and Manu if you could explain more on this chart which

could be

> > > followed by Ash.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Manoshi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " harjeet

bakshi "

> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > i would like to attempt it too.

> > > > the time if 00:44 if is 00:43 the lagna in navamsa changes

and

> > > saturn

> > > > goes to the 5th house... aspecting A,B AND C for 7th house.

> > > > jupiter is with venus the lord of B and A.

> > > > so delay by both saturn and jupiter.

> > > > jupiter is in libra in navamsa and aspects saturn cant check

the

> > > delay

> > > > by saturn.

> > > > there are 2 zereos in navamsa for house 4th and 7th ie D and

B.

> > > > jupiter is loE.

> > > > the delay by saturn ends sometimes in 2002.

> > > > that time jupiter is in 4th house...

> > > > i would go for dealy of jupiter ending when it reaches the

7th house

> > > > sometime in 2005 mid...

> > > > mercury antra is going on which cant give marriage..

> > > > next antra is of ketu which is samdhari to jupiter loE can

give

> > > > marriage...

> > > > ketu is also in 12th house so in its antra would give the

result for

> > > > 8th house from there i.e. 7th..

> > > > may be by the end of second sector or 3rd sector.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

, " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Manoshi, Bala, Nanu,

> > > > > I knew my answer is wrong and it is hinted by Manoshi.

> > > > > Marriage can not be in Su-Su.But this chart is showing love

> > > marriage

> > > > > because LoE Ju and LoA PLUS LoB Ve both are together in 3rd

house

> > > and

> > > > > aspected malefically by Mo LoD.Since the aspect of LoD and

LoE in

> > > not

> > > > > considered malefic,Mo being LoD might have given marriage.

> > > > > On the other hand if you see the points of Lagna Lord Ma

and its

> > > 7th

> > > > > lord Ve then it is in 2/12 combination so 5 points. Mo/Sa

is in

> > > 6/8

> > > > > so 0 point and Me/Ju in 3/11 so 20 points.Therefore it

comes out

> > > > > total 25 points.It is showing unhappy married life.

> > > > > Ve and Ju both are closely conjunct and they are in lagna

in

> > > libra

> > > > > navamsa alongwith Su.

> > > > > Antara of Su can not give marriage. Mo antara can not give

> > > marriage

> > > > > because it is spoiled due to association with 6th lord Me

and so

> > > Ma

> > > > > also in navamsa.

> > > > > Ra is in 6th house and represents Me.Since the marriage is

> > > unhappy, I

> > > > > came to the conclusion that marriage might happen in Ra

antra of

> > > Su

> > > > > main.Ra antara runs from 31 Oct 2002 to 24 Sep 2004.The

marriage

> > > > > might be in 3rd sector which comes from 6 Jun 2003 to 24

Sep 2003.

> > > > > Therefore it is concluded with the approximate date of

marriage

> > > might

> > > > > be sometime between Jun/2003 and Sep/2003 in Su/Ra.

> > > > > If this is also incorrect then I am myself helpless.

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Manu and Bala,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will post the answer on Tuesday. Please look into the

chart

> > > again

> > > > > > and very closely. Though I myself was not able to solve

the

> > > chart,

> > > > > > but later as Ash told me the EXACT antra, I was taken

aback. I

> > > > > still

> > > > > > dont know exactly what Ash must have read in the chart to

find

> > > out

> > > > > > the correct marriage time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > None of you are correct yet. Please try again. Please

read the

> > > > > chart

> > > > > > again closely before coming to any conclusion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > All the best

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Manu

Batura "

> > > > > > <manubatura@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Didi,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Interesting chart....thanks.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Asc is 23ari02.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since, Ash has solved the chart, I am assuming the

birth time

> > > to

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > rectified.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Following are some observations:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Sa aspects A, B, C in navamsa.

> > > > > > > 2. Ju aspects Sa in navamsa but it is in lib.

> > > > > > > 3. Ju also aspects B and with LoA in rasi.

> > > > > > > 4. Sa delay till Aug 2002.

> > > > > > > 5. I think delay will be over in me antra.

> > > > > > > 6. Me weak for marriage.

> > > > > > > 7. Next is ke, ke SD to Ju and Me. Ke will give

marriage.

> > > > > > > 8. First sector from may 2006 to june 2006 is what I

think

> > > should

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > the time for marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Shall wait for correct answer.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks again.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Manu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

, " Manoshi

> > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here is a chart to solve for all of you. Time

MARRIAGE for

> > > the

> > > > > > female

> > > > > > > > native. I could not do it but Ash did it EXACT. Also,

what

> > > > > > prospects do

> > > > > > > > you see for the child birth of the native?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > here are the details:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Birth date: 28 July 1977

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Birth Time: 0 hours 44 Minutes

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Birth co-ordiantes:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 10N31

> > > > > > > > 76E13

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > India

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ashji can you pls elobrate on this, it would be very helpful for me to

understand :

" Moon is in sign of Guru in Rasi and in a fixed sign in

navamsa i.e. Taurus its unccha rasi.

 

You can also see 3 sectors of Venus and 2 sectors of Guru i.e. lagna,

sun and moon in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa. "

 

thanks/regards

harjeet

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Manoshi, Manu, Bala, Ramesh, Harjeet and all list members,

>

> The first thing to do is to identify the basic chart before dwelling

> into timing of event.

>

> So first study the overall make up of the chart.

>

> Here you can see the following.

>

> Lagna point is 36 so its showing an adamant, hot headed and egoistic

> nature. Moon is in sign of Guru in Rasi and in a fixed sign in

> navamsa i.e. Taurus its unccha rasi.

>

> You can also see 3 sectors of Venus and 2 sectors of Guru i.e. lagna,

> sun and moon in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa.

>

> You can also see 6th lord is in 5th house (in 12th) so the status of

> 5th house, 5th lord is in 4th house so in 12th, for 3rd house, 12th

> lord from 3rd is in 3rd and for 2nd house, its 12th lord i.e 1st lord

> is in 2nd house.

>

> You will also notice, Jupiter is in libra in this chart (in navamsa).

>

> Now there is full delay due to Saturn and Jupiter both. Sa is at

> 25deg39 in Cancer. There after when Jupiter's delay is over when

> Jupiter will touch 7th house. This happens

>

> By the time delay is over its around 1st October 2005. So marriage

> will happen after that.

>

> That time Mercury antra is running.

>

> Before that, we can see Ra and Ma are aspecting 5th house and 11th

> hosue in Navamsa. Mostly all house points for 2nd, 5th, 12th and 11th

> are all low. Ma and Ve are 2:12 (lagna and 7th), Me and Ju are in

> 3:11 (Mo and 7th) and from sun and 7th i.e. sa and mo are in 6:8,

> Venus and 7th i.e. Jupiter and Mercury are in 3:11, so all these

> things are showing adjustment and especially with such high points in

> lagna one would have to do more adjusting and it would be even more

> challenging.

>

> If you also see the house average the total points are less than 84

> for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, 10th and 12th. For 11th

> house its 85 so barely 1 over average, and for 7th house its 99.

>

> So overall happiness from each house is also less.

>

> So overall the happiness is less or child birth is difficult.

>

> So based on all points, its clear that this is a chart holds less

> promise of a happy marital life and there will be more challenge and

> adjustment.

>

> So Mercury, being the lowest power planet and 6th lord would give

> marriage, as per our law that unhappy marriages will happen in lowest

> power planet.

>

> I think all of you saw that the marriage was unhappy, and all of you

> pointed this out in some form or the other in your mails. The only

> mistake you all did was u did not go for lowest power planet. So this

> chart is a very good chart for learning.

>

> Now next is sector. There is full delay in this chart so 3rd sector

> would give marriage. This marriage happened in the every end of 2nd

> sector and if you consider 13 days difference when 3rd sector of

> mercury starts it would be hardly 15 days difference.

>

> This marriage happened in the pdf of Ju and Ketu i.e when Sun was

> transitting the sign of Guru and nakshatra of Ketu.

>

> Guru is the highest power planet and Ketu is in house so so is eager

> to give and hence the marriage happened in the highest 2 power planet.

>

> So we took Mercury as antra and then Ju and Ketu for pdf.

>

> In any case, when I read all of your analysis, I was very happy, as

> all of you were on the right track. All of you have pointed out this

> is not a chart of a happy marriage and there seemed to be some problem.

>

> In any case, more and more practice will get you all perfect.

>

> Very good attempt, by all, and Manoshi thanks for sending this chart

> to the list for practice.

>

> Kudos to all of you. Well Done !!!

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

>

>

> , " harjeet bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > thanks for the post Manoshiji...

> > so its the lowest and 6th lord antra too... if i am not mistaken.

> > i would also like to know from Manu, Bala, Ashji or yourself that 2

> > zeroes in navamsa that too in 4th house D and 7th house B are someway

> > responsible too besides what you explained.. ?

> > yeah i had noticed that for the 5th house all the planets were weak in

> > the worksheet and for the 12th i guess only 2 planets were having 12

> > or above points...

> > this is very interesting post and would be keenly waiting on Ashji's

> > expertise on this chart.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > , " Manoshi Chatterjee "

> > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Here is the date of marriage:

> > >

> > > 24th Decemeber 2005

> > >

> > > Marriage was held in lowest points.

> > >

> > > I have not discussed the chart with Ash so may be Manu and Bala are

> > > in a better position to explain the reason behind it.

> > >

> > > According to me the reasons could be:

> > >

> > > 1)checking the 1:7 planet positions

> > > (a) From Lagna- Mars:Venus=2:12 (bad)

> > > (b) From Sun- Moon:Saturn=6:8 (bad)

> > > © From Moon- jupiter:mercury=3:11 (not bad)

> > >

> > > 5th house points are all low, if that has anything to do with

> > > marriage in low points.

> > >

> > > About children, this lady had her first conception in November 2006

> > > and she had a miscarriage in two months time. Conception

happened as

> > > soon as Venus antra started (LoD for 5th house) and venus has high

> > > points for 11th house (conception).

> > >

> > > Bala and Manu if you could explain more on this chart which

could be

> > > followed by Ash.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Manoshi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " harjeet bakshi "

> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > i would like to attempt it too.

> > > > the time if 00:44 if is 00:43 the lagna in navamsa changes and

> > > saturn

> > > > goes to the 5th house... aspecting A,B AND C for 7th house.

> > > > jupiter is with venus the lord of B and A.

> > > > so delay by both saturn and jupiter.

> > > > jupiter is in libra in navamsa and aspects saturn cant check the

> > > delay

> > > > by saturn.

> > > > there are 2 zereos in navamsa for house 4th and 7th ie D and B.

> > > > jupiter is loE.

> > > > the delay by saturn ends sometimes in 2002.

> > > > that time jupiter is in 4th house...

> > > > i would go for dealy of jupiter ending when it reaches the 7th

house

> > > > sometime in 2005 mid...

> > > > mercury antra is going on which cant give marriage..

> > > > next antra is of ketu which is samdhari to jupiter loE can give

> > > > marriage...

> > > > ketu is also in 12th house so in its antra would give the

result for

> > > > 8th house from there i.e. 7th..

> > > > may be by the end of second sector or 3rd sector.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

" aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Manoshi, Bala, Nanu,

> > > > > I knew my answer is wrong and it is hinted by Manoshi.

> > > > > Marriage can not be in Su-Su.But this chart is showing love

> > > marriage

> > > > > because LoE Ju and LoA PLUS LoB Ve both are together in 3rd

house

> > > and

> > > > > aspected malefically by Mo LoD.Since the aspect of LoD and

LoE in

> > > not

> > > > > considered malefic,Mo being LoD might have given marriage.

> > > > > On the other hand if you see the points of Lagna Lord Ma and

its

> > > 7th

> > > > > lord Ve then it is in 2/12 combination so 5 points. Mo/Sa is in

> > > 6/8

> > > > > so 0 point and Me/Ju in 3/11 so 20 points.Therefore it comes

out

> > > > > total 25 points.It is showing unhappy married life.

> > > > > Ve and Ju both are closely conjunct and they are in lagna in

> > > libra

> > > > > navamsa alongwith Su.

> > > > > Antara of Su can not give marriage. Mo antara can not give

> > > marriage

> > > > > because it is spoiled due to association with 6th lord Me

and so

> > > Ma

> > > > > also in navamsa.

> > > > > Ra is in 6th house and represents Me.Since the marriage is

> > > unhappy, I

> > > > > came to the conclusion that marriage might happen in Ra

antra of

> > > Su

> > > > > main.Ra antara runs from 31 Oct 2002 to 24 Sep 2004.The

marriage

> > > > > might be in 3rd sector which comes from 6 Jun 2003 to 24 Sep

2003.

> > > > > Therefore it is concluded with the approximate date of marriage

> > > might

> > > > > be sometime between Jun/2003 and Sep/2003 in Su/Ra.

> > > > > If this is also incorrect then I am myself helpless.

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Manu and Bala,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will post the answer on Tuesday. Please look into the chart

> > > again

> > > > > > and very closely. Though I myself was not able to solve the

> > > chart,

> > > > > > but later as Ash told me the EXACT antra, I was taken

aback. I

> > > > > still

> > > > > > dont know exactly what Ash must have read in the chart to

find

> > > out

> > > > > > the correct marriage time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > None of you are correct yet. Please try again. Please read

the

> > > > > chart

> > > > > > again closely before coming to any conclusion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > All the best

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Manu

Batura "

> > > > > > <manubatura@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Didi,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Interesting chart....thanks.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Asc is 23ari02.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since, Ash has solved the chart, I am assuming the birth

time

> > > to

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > rectified.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Following are some observations:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Sa aspects A, B, C in navamsa.

> > > > > > > 2. Ju aspects Sa in navamsa but it is in lib.

> > > > > > > 3. Ju also aspects B and with LoA in rasi.

> > > > > > > 4. Sa delay till Aug 2002.

> > > > > > > 5. I think delay will be over in me antra.

> > > > > > > 6. Me weak for marriage.

> > > > > > > 7. Next is ke, ke SD to Ju and Me. Ke will give marriage.

> > > > > > > 8. First sector from may 2006 to june 2006 is what I think

> > > should

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > the time for marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Shall wait for correct answer.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks again.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Manu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here is a chart to solve for all of you. Time MARRIAGE

for

> > > the

> > > > > > female

> > > > > > > > native. I could not do it but Ash did it EXACT. Also,

what

> > > > > > prospects do

> > > > > > > > you see for the child birth of the native?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > here are the details:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Birth date: 28 July 1977

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Birth Time: 0 hours 44 Minutes

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Birth co-ordiantes:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 10N31

> > > > > > > > 76E13

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > India

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Ramesh,

There are certain things about this chart, that I do not want to spell out. To

answer your question about sector, say if more than 2/3rd or say more than half

sector if it would have been over, I might not have selected it. Here, the

delay was over itself before the 1st sector ended, and this chart has unhappy

marriage as per our system so lowest points will give the result.

 

Ramesh, I will narrate an experience I had. Some years back, I was solving a

chart, and I had selected the antra for marriage and I went wrong. So I gave

the degree of planets to Krushnaji and he solved the chart and he said that this

person will marry in such and such time, and I was so surprised, how did

krushanji pick the antra, sector and event the pdf. He had picked the lowest

power planet and I had gone for a highest power planet.

 

He had told me to think over it, and first to see if there was some problem in

the chart so then as per our law, it would happen in lowest points.

 

I had asked him the same question, that Ramesh, you had asked me, and he told me

that one has to practice more and more charts and you will start to get the feel

of it.

 

He said, that I had also seen such problems in that chart I was solving, and it

also matched our laws, so only thing that was missing was the practice and the

experience to gauge this.

 

So, I do not have any direct answer for you, except, solving more and more

charts and you will begin to see such things.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

Dear Ash and Manoshi,

Many many thanks for the explanation in detail.

According to my calculation the composite delay of Sa and Ju is over

on 24 Sep 2005.

At this time native was passing through Me antara in Su

main.Therefore Me antara should not give the event.But the event

happened in the same antara soon its first sector was over and

immediately in second sector the event took place.

I am curious to know that how could you judge the same antara inspite

of being Me with least point in SAV points ?

Though the reason is given by you in mail (DUE TO UNHAPPY MARRIED

LIFE).Still we came across many charts on the same forum that married

life is unhappy and marriage took place in >12 points in WS by

planets.

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Manoshi, Manu, Bala, Ramesh, Harjeet and all list members,

>

> The first thing to do is to identify the basic chart before dwelling

> into timing of event.

>

> So first study the overall make up of the chart.

>

> Here you can see the following.

>

> Lagna point is 36 so its showing an adamant, hot headed and egoistic

> nature. Moon is in sign of Guru in Rasi and in a fixed sign in

> navamsa i.e. Taurus its unccha rasi.

>

> You can also see 3 sectors of Venus and 2 sectors of Guru i.e.

lagna,

> sun and moon in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa.

>

> You can also see 6th lord is in 5th house (in 12th) so the status of

> 5th house, 5th lord is in 4th house so in 12th, for 3rd house, 12th

> lord from 3rd is in 3rd and for 2nd house, its 12th lord i.e 1st

lord

> is in 2nd house.

>

> You will also notice, Jupiter is in libra in this chart (in

navamsa).

>

> Now there is full delay due to Saturn and Jupiter both. Sa is at

> 25deg39 in Cancer. There after when Jupiter's delay is over when

> Jupiter will touch 7th house. This happens

>

> By the time delay is over its around 1st October 2005. So marriage

> will happen after that.

>

> That time Mercury antra is running.

>

> Before that, we can see Ra and Ma are aspecting 5th house and 11th

> hosue in Navamsa. Mostly all house points for 2nd, 5th, 12th and

11th

> are all low. Ma and Ve are 2:12 (lagna and 7th), Me and Ju are in

> 3:11 (Mo and 7th) and from sun and 7th i.e. sa and mo are in 6:8,

> Venus and 7th i.e. Jupiter and Mercury are in 3:11, so all these

> things are showing adjustment and especially with such high points

in

> lagna one would have to do more adjusting and it would be even more

> challenging.

>

> If you also see the house average the total points are less than 84

> for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, 10th and 12th. For 11th

> house its 85 so barely 1 over average, and for 7th house its 99.

>

> So overall happiness from each house is also less.

>

> So overall the happiness is less or child birth is difficult.

>

> So based on all points, its clear that this is a chart holds less

> promise of a happy marital life and there will be more challenge and

> adjustment.

>

> So Mercury, being the lowest power planet and 6th lord would give

> marriage, as per our law that unhappy marriages will happen in

lowest

> power planet.

>

> I think all of you saw that the marriage was unhappy, and all of you

> pointed this out in some form or the other in your mails. The only

> mistake you all did was u did not go for lowest power planet. So

this

> chart is a very good chart for learning.

>

> Now next is sector. There is full delay in this chart so 3rd sector

> would give marriage. This marriage happened in the every end of 2nd

> sector and if you consider 13 days difference when 3rd sector of

> mercury starts it would be hardly 15 days difference.

>

> This marriage happened in the pdf of Ju and Ketu i.e when Sun was

> transitting the sign of Guru and nakshatra of Ketu.

>

> Guru is the highest power planet and Ketu is in house so so is eager

> to give and hence the marriage happened in the highest 2 power

planet.

>

> So we took Mercury as antra and then Ju and Ketu for pdf.

>

> In any case, when I read all of your analysis, I was very happy, as

> all of you were on the right track. All of you have pointed out

this

> is not a chart of a happy marriage and there seemed to be some

problem.

>

> In any case, more and more practice will get you all perfect.

>

> Very good attempt, by all, and Manoshi thanks for sending this chart

> to the list for practice.

>

> Kudos to all of you. Well Done !!!

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

>

>

> , " harjeet bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > thanks for the post Manoshiji...

> > so its the lowest and 6th lord antra too... if i am not mistaken.

> > i would also like to know from Manu, Bala, Ashji or yourself that

2

> > zeroes in navamsa that too in 4th house D and 7th house B are

someway

> > responsible too besides what you explained.. ?

> > yeah i had noticed that for the 5th house all the planets were

weak in

> > the worksheet and for the 12th i guess only 2 planets were having

12

> > or above points...

> > this is very interesting post and would be keenly waiting on

Ashji's

> > expertise on this chart.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > , " Manoshi

Chatterjee "

> > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Here is the date of marriage:

> > >

> > > 24th Decemeber 2005

> > >

> > > Marriage was held in lowest points.

> > >

> > > I have not discussed the chart with Ash so may be Manu and Bala

are

> > > in a better position to explain the reason behind it.

> > >

> > > According to me the reasons could be:

> > >

> > > 1)checking the 1:7 planet positions

> > > (a) From Lagna- Mars:Venus=2:12 (bad)

> > > (b) From Sun- Moon:Saturn=6:8 (bad)

> > > © From Moon- jupiter:mercury=3:11 (not bad)

> > >

> > > 5th house points are all low, if that has anything to do with

> > > marriage in low points.

> > >

> > > About children, this lady had her first conception in November

2006

> > > and she had a miscarriage in two months time. Conception

happened as

> > > soon as Venus antra started (LoD for 5th house) and venus has

high

> > > points for 11th house (conception).

> > >

> > > Bala and Manu if you could explain more on this chart which

could be

> > > followed by Ash.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Manoshi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " harjeet

bakshi "

> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > i would like to attempt it too.

> > > > the time if 00:44 if is 00:43 the lagna in navamsa changes

and

> > > saturn

> > > > goes to the 5th house... aspecting A,B AND C for 7th house.

> > > > jupiter is with venus the lord of B and A.

> > > > so delay by both saturn and jupiter.

> > > > jupiter is in libra in navamsa and aspects saturn cant check

the

> > > delay

> > > > by saturn.

> > > > there are 2 zereos in navamsa for house 4th and 7th ie D and

B.

> > > > jupiter is loE.

> > > > the delay by saturn ends sometimes in 2002.

> > > > that time jupiter is in 4th house...

> > > > i would go for dealy of jupiter ending when it reaches the

7th house

> > > > sometime in 2005 mid...

> > > > mercury antra is going on which cant give marriage..

> > > > next antra is of ketu which is samdhari to jupiter loE can

give

> > > > marriage...

> > > > ketu is also in 12th house so in its antra would give the

result for

> > > > 8th house from there i.e. 7th..

> > > > may be by the end of second sector or 3rd sector.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

, " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Manoshi, Bala, Nanu,

> > > > > I knew my answer is wrong and it is hinted by Manoshi.

> > > > > Marriage can not be in Su-Su.But this chart is showing love

> > > marriage

> > > > > because LoE Ju and LoA PLUS LoB Ve both are together in 3rd

house

> > > and

> > > > > aspected malefically by Mo LoD.Since the aspect of LoD and

LoE in

> > > not

> > > > > considered malefic,Mo being LoD might have given marriage.

> > > > > On the other hand if you see the points of Lagna Lord Ma

and its

> > > 7th

> > > > > lord Ve then it is in 2/12 combination so 5 points. Mo/Sa

is in

> > > 6/8

> > > > > so 0 point and Me/Ju in 3/11 so 20 points.Therefore it

comes out

> > > > > total 25 points.It is showing unhappy married life.

> > > > > Ve and Ju both are closely conjunct and they are in lagna

in

> > > libra

> > > > > navamsa alongwith Su.

> > > > > Antara of Su can not give marriage. Mo antara can not give

> > > marriage

> > > > > because it is spoiled due to association with 6th lord Me

and so

> > > Ma

> > > > > also in navamsa.

> > > > > Ra is in 6th house and represents Me.Since the marriage is

> > > unhappy, I

> > > > > came to the conclusion that marriage might happen in Ra

antra of

> > > Su

> > > > > main.Ra antara runs from 31 Oct 2002 to 24 Sep 2004.The

marriage

> > > > > might be in 3rd sector which comes from 6 Jun 2003 to 24

Sep 2003.

> > > > > Therefore it is concluded with the approximate date of

marriage

> > > might

> > > > > be sometime between Jun/2003 and Sep/2003 in Su/Ra.

> > > > > If this is also incorrect then I am myself helpless.

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Manu and Bala,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will post the answer on Tuesday. Please look into the

chart

> > > again

> > > > > > and very closely. Though I myself was not able to solve

the

> > > chart,

> > > > > > but later as Ash told me the EXACT antra, I was taken

aback. I

> > > > > still

> > > > > > dont know exactly what Ash must have read in the chart to

find

> > > out

> > > > > > the correct marriage time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > None of you are correct yet. Please try again. Please

read the

> > > > > chart

> > > > > > again closely before coming to any conclusion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > All the best

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Manu

Batura "

> > > > > > <manubatura@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Didi,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Interesting chart....thanks.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Asc is 23ari02.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since, Ash has solved the chart, I am assuming the

birth time

> > > to

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > rectified.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Following are some observations:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Sa aspects A, B, C in navamsa.

> > > > > > > 2. Ju aspects Sa in navamsa but it is in lib.

> > > > > > > 3. Ju also aspects B and with LoA in rasi.

> > > > > > > 4. Sa delay till Aug 2002.

> > > > > > > 5. I think delay will be over in me antra.

> > > > > > > 6. Me weak for marriage.

> > > > > > > 7. Next is ke, ke SD to Ju and Me. Ke will give

marriage.

> > > > > > > 8. First sector from may 2006 to june 2006 is what I

think

> > > should

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > the time for marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Shall wait for correct answer.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks again.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Manu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

, " Manoshi

> > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here is a chart to solve for all of you. Time

MARRIAGE for

> > > the

> > > > > > female

> > > > > > > > native. I could not do it but Ash did it EXACT. Also,

what

> > > > > > prospects do

> > > > > > > > you see for the child birth of the native?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > here are the details:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Birth date: 28 July 1977

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Birth Time: 0 hours 44 Minutes

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Birth co-ordiantes:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 10N31

> > > > > > > > 76E13

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > India

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Harjeet,

This would be the VA portion.

 

Moon is in 9th house in sign of Sag which is ruled by Guru. Guru is friend is

Moon. So moon is in a friends house. Its also a dual sign and a fiery sign.

These are the properties of Sagittarius.

 

Sagittarius is also 9th house of kalpurush chart and in this case lagna is

aries.

 

Moon is the significator of mind or mana and happiness. Its in the sign of Sag

in this chart so it means its in 6th house (powerful upachaya sthan) so such

persons are fortunate, reason being, 4th house status is enhanced and 4th house

is karak for 9th house so it will make the results of 9th house enhanced and

felt better. MF for moon is 1 so its not less than 1 which would mean in enemy

or debilitation sign.

 

Moon in 9th house with MF of 1 is in House D for 12th house so during its antra

it will also be eager to give results for Pleasure and 12th house and also

happiness which is 4th house. So 2 of the 3 moksh trikon will be triggered in

Moon antra and the results will be good as MF of Moon is is 1.

 

So in short I said, Moon is in sag and in taurus navamsa, means again its in

unccha rasi in Navamsa.

 

Actually degree of Moon is 5sg30 so it means that Moon is in trishansa of Saturn

and navamsa of Venus and in dreshkon of Guru. So such a person might be

intellegent, and will do his or her work in an artistic way and will be more

ethical and dharmic and might not resort to wrong things.

 

 

Similarly you can check for Sun's degree and lagna degree and we can get the

idea of intelligence.

 

If you see Trishansa, you will see 2 sectors of Mercury and 1 of Saturn so

Mercury is intellegence and Saturn is Brilliance, so this native had good

intelligence, such a person can see things and pick them up and such persons try

to understand the depth of things so they can re-construct it using their

intelligence. Such persons also do things or their with artistic touch. The 2

sectors of Jupiter will make a persons believe more in dharam and might fear to

do wrong things and it maybe also due pressure of society etc.

 

I hope you get the idea.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:

Ashji can you pls elobrate on this, it would be very helpful for me to

understand :

" Moon is in sign of Guru in Rasi and in a fixed sign in

navamsa i.e. Taurus its unccha rasi.

 

You can also see 3 sectors of Venus and 2 sectors of Guru i.e. lagna,

sun and moon in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa. "

 

thanks/regards

harjeet

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Manoshi, Manu, Bala, Ramesh, Harjeet and all list members,

>

> The first thing to do is to identify the basic chart before dwelling

> into timing of event.

>

> So first study the overall make up of the chart.

>

> Here you can see the following.

>

> Lagna point is 36 so its showing an adamant, hot headed and egoistic

> nature. Moon is in sign of Guru in Rasi and in a fixed sign in

> navamsa i.e. Taurus its unccha rasi.

>

> You can also see 3 sectors of Venus and 2 sectors of Guru i.e. lagna,

> sun and moon in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa.

>

> You can also see 6th lord is in 5th house (in 12th) so the status of

> 5th house, 5th lord is in 4th house so in 12th, for 3rd house, 12th

> lord from 3rd is in 3rd and for 2nd house, its 12th lord i.e 1st lord

> is in 2nd house.

>

> You will also notice, Jupiter is in libra in this chart (in navamsa).

>

> Now there is full delay due to Saturn and Jupiter both. Sa is at

> 25deg39 in Cancer. There after when Jupiter's delay is over when

> Jupiter will touch 7th house. This happens

>

> By the time delay is over its around 1st October 2005. So marriage

> will happen after that.

>

> That time Mercury antra is running.

>

> Before that, we can see Ra and Ma are aspecting 5th house and 11th

> hosue in Navamsa. Mostly all house points for 2nd, 5th, 12th and 11th

> are all low. Ma and Ve are 2:12 (lagna and 7th), Me and Ju are in

> 3:11 (Mo and 7th) and from sun and 7th i.e. sa and mo are in 6:8,

> Venus and 7th i.e. Jupiter and Mercury are in 3:11, so all these

> things are showing adjustment and especially with such high points in

> lagna one would have to do more adjusting and it would be even more

> challenging.

>

> If you also see the house average the total points are less than 84

> for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, 10th and 12th. For 11th

> house its 85 so barely 1 over average, and for 7th house its 99.

>

> So overall happiness from each house is also less.

>

> So overall the happiness is less or child birth is difficult.

>

> So based on all points, its clear that this is a chart holds less

> promise of a happy marital life and there will be more challenge and

> adjustment.

>

> So Mercury, being the lowest power planet and 6th lord would give

> marriage, as per our law that unhappy marriages will happen in lowest

> power planet.

>

> I think all of you saw that the marriage was unhappy, and all of you

> pointed this out in some form or the other in your mails. The only

> mistake you all did was u did not go for lowest power planet. So this

> chart is a very good chart for learning.

>

> Now next is sector. There is full delay in this chart so 3rd sector

> would give marriage. This marriage happened in the every end of 2nd

> sector and if you consider 13 days difference when 3rd sector of

> mercury starts it would be hardly 15 days difference.

>

> This marriage happened in the pdf of Ju and Ketu i.e when Sun was

> transitting the sign of Guru and nakshatra of Ketu.

>

> Guru is the highest power planet and Ketu is in house so so is eager

> to give and hence the marriage happened in the highest 2 power planet.

>

> So we took Mercury as antra and then Ju and Ketu for pdf.

>

> In any case, when I read all of your analysis, I was very happy, as

> all of you were on the right track. All of you have pointed out this

> is not a chart of a happy marriage and there seemed to be some problem.

>

> In any case, more and more practice will get you all perfect.

>

> Very good attempt, by all, and Manoshi thanks for sending this chart

> to the list for practice.

>

> Kudos to all of you. Well Done !!!

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

>

>

> , " harjeet bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > thanks for the post Manoshiji...

> > so its the lowest and 6th lord antra too... if i am not mistaken.

> > i would also like to know from Manu, Bala, Ashji or yourself that 2

> > zeroes in navamsa that too in 4th house D and 7th house B are someway

> > responsible too besides what you explained.. ?

> > yeah i had noticed that for the 5th house all the planets were weak in

> > the worksheet and for the 12th i guess only 2 planets were having 12

> > or above points...

> > this is very interesting post and would be keenly waiting on Ashji's

> > expertise on this chart.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > , " Manoshi Chatterjee "

> > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Here is the date of marriage:

> > >

> > > 24th Decemeber 2005

> > >

> > > Marriage was held in lowest points.

> > >

> > > I have not discussed the chart with Ash so may be Manu and Bala are

> > > in a better position to explain the reason behind it.

> > >

> > > According to me the reasons could be:

> > >

> > > 1)checking the 1:7 planet positions

> > > (a) From Lagna- Mars:Venus=2:12 (bad)

> > > (b) From Sun- Moon:Saturn=6:8 (bad)

> > > © From Moon- jupiter:mercury=3:11 (not bad)

> > >

> > > 5th house points are all low, if that has anything to do with

> > > marriage in low points.

> > >

> > > About children, this lady had her first conception in November 2006

> > > and she had a miscarriage in two months time. Conception

happened as

> > > soon as Venus antra started (LoD for 5th house) and venus has high

> > > points for 11th house (conception).

> > >

> > > Bala and Manu if you could explain more on this chart which

could be

> > > followed by Ash.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Manoshi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " harjeet bakshi "

> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > > i would like to attempt it too.

> > > > the time if 00:44 if is 00:43 the lagna in navamsa changes and

> > > saturn

> > > > goes to the 5th house... aspecting A,B AND C for 7th house.

> > > > jupiter is with venus the lord of B and A.

> > > > so delay by both saturn and jupiter.

> > > > jupiter is in libra in navamsa and aspects saturn cant check the

> > > delay

> > > > by saturn.

> > > > there are 2 zereos in navamsa for house 4th and 7th ie D and B.

> > > > jupiter is loE.

> > > > the delay by saturn ends sometimes in 2002.

> > > > that time jupiter is in 4th house...

> > > > i would go for dealy of jupiter ending when it reaches the 7th

house

> > > > sometime in 2005 mid...

> > > > mercury antra is going on which cant give marriage..

> > > > next antra is of ketu which is samdhari to jupiter loE can give

> > > > marriage...

> > > > ketu is also in 12th house so in its antra would give the

result for

> > > > 8th house from there i.e. 7th..

> > > > may be by the end of second sector or 3rd sector.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

" aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Manoshi, Bala, Nanu,

> > > > > I knew my answer is wrong and it is hinted by Manoshi.

> > > > > Marriage can not be in Su-Su.But this chart is showing love

> > > marriage

> > > > > because LoE Ju and LoA PLUS LoB Ve both are together in 3rd

house

> > > and

> > > > > aspected malefically by Mo LoD.Since the aspect of LoD and

LoE in

> > > not

> > > > > considered malefic,Mo being LoD might have given marriage.

> > > > > On the other hand if you see the points of Lagna Lord Ma and

its

> > > 7th

> > > > > lord Ve then it is in 2/12 combination so 5 points. Mo/Sa is in

> > > 6/8

> > > > > so 0 point and Me/Ju in 3/11 so 20 points.Therefore it comes

out

> > > > > total 25 points.It is showing unhappy married life.

> > > > > Ve and Ju both are closely conjunct and they are in lagna in

> > > libra

> > > > > navamsa alongwith Su.

> > > > > Antara of Su can not give marriage. Mo antara can not give

> > > marriage

> > > > > because it is spoiled due to association with 6th lord Me

and so

> > > Ma

> > > > > also in navamsa.

> > > > > Ra is in 6th house and represents Me.Since the marriage is

> > > unhappy, I

> > > > > came to the conclusion that marriage might happen in Ra

antra of

> > > Su

> > > > > main.Ra antara runs from 31 Oct 2002 to 24 Sep 2004.The

marriage

> > > > > might be in 3rd sector which comes from 6 Jun 2003 to 24 Sep

2003.

> > > > > Therefore it is concluded with the approximate date of marriage

> > > might

> > > > > be sometime between Jun/2003 and Sep/2003 in Su/Ra.

> > > > > If this is also incorrect then I am myself helpless.

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Manu and Bala,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will post the answer on Tuesday. Please look into the chart

> > > again

> > > > > > and very closely. Though I myself was not able to solve the

> > > chart,

> > > > > > but later as Ash told me the EXACT antra, I was taken

aback. I

> > > > > still

> > > > > > dont know exactly what Ash must have read in the chart to

find

> > > out

> > > > > > the correct marriage time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > None of you are correct yet. Please try again. Please read

the

> > > > > chart

> > > > > > again closely before coming to any conclusion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > All the best

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Manu

Batura "

> > > > > > <manubatura@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Didi,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Interesting chart....thanks.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Asc is 23ari02.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since, Ash has solved the chart, I am assuming the birth

time

> > > to

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > rectified.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Following are some observations:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Sa aspects A, B, C in navamsa.

> > > > > > > 2. Ju aspects Sa in navamsa but it is in lib.

> > > > > > > 3. Ju also aspects B and with LoA in rasi.

> > > > > > > 4. Sa delay till Aug 2002.

> > > > > > > 5. I think delay will be over in me antra.

> > > > > > > 6. Me weak for marriage.

> > > > > > > 7. Next is ke, ke SD to Ju and Me. Ke will give marriage.

> > > > > > > 8. First sector from may 2006 to june 2006 is what I think

> > > should

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > the time for marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Shall wait for correct answer.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks again.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Manu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here is a chart to solve for all of you. Time MARRIAGE

for

> > > the

> > > > > > female

> > > > > > > > native. I could not do it but Ash did it EXACT. Also,

what

> > > > > > prospects do

> > > > > > > > you see for the child birth of the native?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > here are the details:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Birth date: 28 July 1977

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Birth Time: 0 hours 44 Minutes

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Birth co-ordiantes:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 10N31

> > > > > > > > 76E13

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > India

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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thanks very much Sir, i got the idea after reading this explanation...

but confused that how it affects or rather plays part in unhappy

marriage... as i thought the above scenario was the criteria of

unhappy marriage.

cause i thought that sun/moon/lagna in sectors of venus might affect

the marriage as person would be more sensual nature ?

 

the other question i have is that for men we see lord of sign where

venus is and the 7th from there and for women we see lord of sign

where mars is and 7th from there.... does it shows the sexual

behaviour of the person...

like say if the lords are in 5:9 then the person would be more active

and if its in 2:12 the person wont have interest or frigid kind?

i am sorry if i might have used any strong language or words here...

regards

harjeet

 

 

, Ash <ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

> This would be the VA portion.

>

> Moon is in 9th house in sign of Sag which is ruled by Guru. Guru is

friend is Moon. So moon is in a friends house. Its also a dual sign

and a fiery sign. These are the properties of Sagittarius.

>

> Sagittarius is also 9th house of kalpurush chart and in this case

lagna is aries.

>

> Moon is the significator of mind or mana and happiness. Its in the

sign of Sag in this chart so it means its in 6th house (powerful

upachaya sthan) so such persons are fortunate, reason being, 4th house

status is enhanced and 4th house is karak for 9th house so it will

make the results of 9th house enhanced and felt better. MF for moon

is 1 so its not less than 1 which would mean in enemy or debilitation

sign.

>

> Moon in 9th house with MF of 1 is in House D for 12th house so

during its antra it will also be eager to give results for Pleasure

and 12th house and also happiness which is 4th house. So 2 of the 3

moksh trikon will be triggered in Moon antra and the results will be

good as MF of Moon is is 1.

>

> So in short I said, Moon is in sag and in taurus navamsa, means

again its in unccha rasi in Navamsa.

>

> Actually degree of Moon is 5sg30 so it means that Moon is in

trishansa of Saturn and navamsa of Venus and in dreshkon of Guru. So

such a person might be intellegent, and will do his or her work in an

artistic way and will be more ethical and dharmic and might not resort

to wrong things.

>

>

> Similarly you can check for Sun's degree and lagna degree and we can

get the idea of intelligence.

>

> If you see Trishansa, you will see 2 sectors of Mercury and 1 of

Saturn so Mercury is intellegence and Saturn is Brilliance, so this

native had good intelligence, such a person can see things and pick

them up and such persons try to understand the depth of things so they

can re-construct it using their intelligence. Such persons also do

things or their with artistic touch. The 2 sectors of Jupiter will

make a persons believe more in dharam and might fear to do wrong

things and it maybe also due pressure of society etc.

>

> I hope you get the idea.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:

Ashji can you pls elobrate on this, it would be very helpful

for me to

> understand :

> " Moon is in sign of Guru in Rasi and in a fixed sign in

> navamsa i.e. Taurus its unccha rasi.

>

> You can also see 3 sectors of Venus and 2 sectors of Guru i.e. lagna,

> sun and moon in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa. "

>

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Manoshi, Manu, Bala, Ramesh, Harjeet and all list members,

> >

> > The first thing to do is to identify the basic chart before dwelling

> > into timing of event.

> >

> > So first study the overall make up of the chart.

> >

> > Here you can see the following.

> >

> > Lagna point is 36 so its showing an adamant, hot headed and egoistic

> > nature. Moon is in sign of Guru in Rasi and in a fixed sign in

> > navamsa i.e. Taurus its unccha rasi.

> >

> > You can also see 3 sectors of Venus and 2 sectors of Guru i.e. lagna,

> > sun and moon in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa.

> >

> > You can also see 6th lord is in 5th house (in 12th) so the status of

> > 5th house, 5th lord is in 4th house so in 12th, for 3rd house, 12th

> > lord from 3rd is in 3rd and for 2nd house, its 12th lord i.e 1st lord

> > is in 2nd house.

> >

> > You will also notice, Jupiter is in libra in this chart (in navamsa).

> >

> > Now there is full delay due to Saturn and Jupiter both. Sa is at

> > 25deg39 in Cancer. There after when Jupiter's delay is over when

> > Jupiter will touch 7th house. This happens

> >

> > By the time delay is over its around 1st October 2005. So marriage

> > will happen after that.

> >

> > That time Mercury antra is running.

> >

> > Before that, we can see Ra and Ma are aspecting 5th house and 11th

> > hosue in Navamsa. Mostly all house points for 2nd, 5th, 12th and

11th

> > are all low. Ma and Ve are 2:12 (lagna and 7th), Me and Ju are in

> > 3:11 (Mo and 7th) and from sun and 7th i.e. sa and mo are in 6:8,

> > Venus and 7th i.e. Jupiter and Mercury are in 3:11, so all these

> > things are showing adjustment and especially with such high points in

> > lagna one would have to do more adjusting and it would be even more

> > challenging.

> >

> > If you also see the house average the total points are less than 84

> > for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, 10th and 12th. For 11th

> > house its 85 so barely 1 over average, and for 7th house its 99.

> >

> > So overall happiness from each house is also less.

> >

> > So overall the happiness is less or child birth is difficult.

> >

> > So based on all points, its clear that this is a chart holds less

> > promise of a happy marital life and there will be more challenge and

> > adjustment.

> >

> > So Mercury, being the lowest power planet and 6th lord would give

> > marriage, as per our law that unhappy marriages will happen in lowest

> > power planet.

> >

> > I think all of you saw that the marriage was unhappy, and all of you

> > pointed this out in some form or the other in your mails. The only

> > mistake you all did was u did not go for lowest power planet. So

this

> > chart is a very good chart for learning.

> >

> > Now next is sector. There is full delay in this chart so 3rd sector

> > would give marriage. This marriage happened in the every end of 2nd

> > sector and if you consider 13 days difference when 3rd sector of

> > mercury starts it would be hardly 15 days difference.

> >

> > This marriage happened in the pdf of Ju and Ketu i.e when Sun was

> > transitting the sign of Guru and nakshatra of Ketu.

> >

> > Guru is the highest power planet and Ketu is in house so so is eager

> > to give and hence the marriage happened in the highest 2 power

planet.

> >

> > So we took Mercury as antra and then Ju and Ketu for pdf.

> >

> > In any case, when I read all of your analysis, I was very happy, as

> > all of you were on the right track. All of you have pointed out this

> > is not a chart of a happy marriage and there seemed to be some

problem.

> >

> > In any case, more and more practice will get you all perfect.

> >

> > Very good attempt, by all, and Manoshi thanks for sending this chart

> > to the list for practice.

> >

> > Kudos to all of you. Well Done !!!

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > thanks for the post Manoshiji...

> > > so its the lowest and 6th lord antra too... if i am not mistaken.

> > > i would also like to know from Manu, Bala, Ashji or yourself that 2

> > > zeroes in navamsa that too in 4th house D and 7th house B are

someway

> > > responsible too besides what you explained.. ?

> > > yeah i had noticed that for the 5th house all the planets were

weak in

> > > the worksheet and for the 12th i guess only 2 planets were

having 12

> > > or above points...

> > > this is very interesting post and would be keenly waiting on

Ashji's

> > > expertise on this chart.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > , " Manoshi

Chatterjee "

> > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Here is the date of marriage:

> > > >

> > > > 24th Decemeber 2005

> > > >

> > > > Marriage was held in lowest points.

> > > >

> > > > I have not discussed the chart with Ash so may be Manu and

Bala are

> > > > in a better position to explain the reason behind it.

> > > >

> > > > According to me the reasons could be:

> > > >

> > > > 1)checking the 1:7 planet positions

> > > > (a) From Lagna- Mars:Venus=2:12 (bad)

> > > > (b) From Sun- Moon:Saturn=6:8 (bad)

> > > > © From Moon- jupiter:mercury=3:11 (not bad)

> > > >

> > > > 5th house points are all low, if that has anything to do with

> > > > marriage in low points.

> > > >

> > > > About children, this lady had her first conception in

November 2006

> > > > and she had a miscarriage in two months time. Conception

> happened as

> > > > soon as Venus antra started (LoD for 5th house) and venus has

high

> > > > points for 11th house (conception).

> > > >

> > > > Bala and Manu if you could explain more on this chart which

> could be

> > > > followed by Ash.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Manoshi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " harjeet

bakshi "

> > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > > i would like to attempt it too.

> > > > > the time if 00:44 if is 00:43 the lagna in navamsa changes and

> > > > saturn

> > > > > goes to the 5th house... aspecting A,B AND C for 7th house.

> > > > > jupiter is with venus the lord of B and A.

> > > > > so delay by both saturn and jupiter.

> > > > > jupiter is in libra in navamsa and aspects saturn cant

check the

> > > > delay

> > > > > by saturn.

> > > > > there are 2 zereos in navamsa for house 4th and 7th ie D and B.

> > > > > jupiter is loE.

> > > > > the delay by saturn ends sometimes in 2002.

> > > > > that time jupiter is in 4th house...

> > > > > i would go for dealy of jupiter ending when it reaches the 7th

> house

> > > > > sometime in 2005 mid...

> > > > > mercury antra is going on which cant give marriage..

> > > > > next antra is of ketu which is samdhari to jupiter loE can give

> > > > > marriage...

> > > > > ketu is also in 12th house so in its antra would give the

> result for

> > > > > 8th house from there i.e. 7th..

> > > > > may be by the end of second sector or 3rd sector.

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Manoshi, Bala, Nanu,

> > > > > > I knew my answer is wrong and it is hinted by Manoshi.

> > > > > > Marriage can not be in Su-Su.But this chart is showing love

> > > > marriage

> > > > > > because LoE Ju and LoA PLUS LoB Ve both are together in 3rd

> house

> > > > and

> > > > > > aspected malefically by Mo LoD.Since the aspect of LoD and

> LoE in

> > > > not

> > > > > > considered malefic,Mo being LoD might have given marriage.

> > > > > > On the other hand if you see the points of Lagna Lord Ma and

> its

> > > > 7th

> > > > > > lord Ve then it is in 2/12 combination so 5 points. Mo/Sa

is in

> > > > 6/8

> > > > > > so 0 point and Me/Ju in 3/11 so 20 points.Therefore it comes

> out

> > > > > > total 25 points.It is showing unhappy married life.

> > > > > > Ve and Ju both are closely conjunct and they are in lagna in

> > > > libra

> > > > > > navamsa alongwith Su.

> > > > > > Antara of Su can not give marriage. Mo antara can not give

> > > > marriage

> > > > > > because it is spoiled due to association with 6th lord Me

> and so

> > > > Ma

> > > > > > also in navamsa.

> > > > > > Ra is in 6th house and represents Me.Since the marriage is

> > > > unhappy, I

> > > > > > came to the conclusion that marriage might happen in Ra

> antra of

> > > > Su

> > > > > > main.Ra antara runs from 31 Oct 2002 to 24 Sep 2004.The

> marriage

> > > > > > might be in 3rd sector which comes from 6 Jun 2003 to 24 Sep

> 2003.

> > > > > > Therefore it is concluded with the approximate date of

marriage

> > > > might

> > > > > > be sometime between Jun/2003 and Sep/2003 in Su/Ra.

> > > > > > If this is also incorrect then I am myself helpless.

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Manu and Bala,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will post the answer on Tuesday. Please look into the

chart

> > > > again

> > > > > > > and very closely. Though I myself was not able to solve

the

> > > > chart,

> > > > > > > but later as Ash told me the EXACT antra, I was taken

> aback. I

> > > > > > still

> > > > > > > dont know exactly what Ash must have read in the chart to

> find

> > > > out

> > > > > > > the correct marriage time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > None of you are correct yet. Please try again. Please read

> the

> > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > again closely before coming to any conclusion.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > All the best

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Manu

> Batura "

> > > > > > > <manubatura@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Didi,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Interesting chart....thanks.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Asc is 23ari02.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Since, Ash has solved the chart, I am assuming the birth

> time

> > > > to

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > rectified.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Following are some observations:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Sa aspects A, B, C in navamsa.

> > > > > > > > 2. Ju aspects Sa in navamsa but it is in lib.

> > > > > > > > 3. Ju also aspects B and with LoA in rasi.

> > > > > > > > 4. Sa delay till Aug 2002.

> > > > > > > > 5. I think delay will be over in me antra.

> > > > > > > > 6. Me weak for marriage.

> > > > > > > > 7. Next is ke, ke SD to Ju and Me. Ke will give marriage.

> > > > > > > > 8. First sector from may 2006 to june 2006 is what I

think

> > > > should

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > the time for marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Shall wait for correct answer.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks again.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Manu

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

" Manoshi

> > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Here is a chart to solve for all of you. Time MARRIAGE

> for

> > > > the

> > > > > > > female

> > > > > > > > > native. I could not do it but Ash did it EXACT. Also,

> what

> > > > > > > prospects do

> > > > > > > > > you see for the child birth of the native?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > here are the details:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Birth date: 28 July 1977

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Birth Time: 0 hours 44 Minutes

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Birth co-ordiantes:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 10N31

> > > > > > > > > 76E13

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > India

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

 

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Dear Harjeet,

This is just what I was thinking I wrote when I was studying the

chart. If I try to write everything and each degree of planet I am

seeing, I will go mad.... so I just typed that portion , when I was

studying this lady's mental make up and personality along with 36

bindus in lagna so everything is a cummulative effect.

 

So in her mind, this lady will not give up on marriage or leave her

husband easily.

 

Now unhappy marriage and all things are covered in my earlier post.

 

Please do not get confused. You asked about what I saw when I was

seeing Moon in sag, and moon in taurus a fixed sign in navamsa etc, so

i wrote a mail in that reference.

 

Please do not get confused.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " harjeet bakshi "

<harjeet_bakshi wrote:

>

> thanks very much Sir, i got the idea after reading this explanation...

> but confused that how it affects or rather plays part in unhappy

> marriage... as i thought the above scenario was the criteria of

> unhappy marriage.

> cause i thought that sun/moon/lagna in sectors of venus might affect

> the marriage as person would be more sensual nature ?

>

> the other question i have is that for men we see lord of sign where

> venus is and the 7th from there and for women we see lord of sign

> where mars is and 7th from there.... does it shows the sexual

> behaviour of the person...

> like say if the lords are in 5:9 then the person would be more active

> and if its in 2:12 the person wont have interest or frigid kind?

> i am sorry if i might have used any strong language or words here...

> regards

> harjeet

>

>

> , Ash <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> > This would be the VA portion.

> >

> > Moon is in 9th house in sign of Sag which is ruled by Guru. Guru is

> friend is Moon. So moon is in a friends house. Its also a dual sign

> and a fiery sign. These are the properties of Sagittarius.

> >

> > Sagittarius is also 9th house of kalpurush chart and in this case

> lagna is aries.

> >

> > Moon is the significator of mind or mana and happiness. Its in the

> sign of Sag in this chart so it means its in 6th house (powerful

> upachaya sthan) so such persons are fortunate, reason being, 4th house

> status is enhanced and 4th house is karak for 9th house so it will

> make the results of 9th house enhanced and felt better. MF for moon

> is 1 so its not less than 1 which would mean in enemy or debilitation

> sign.

> >

> > Moon in 9th house with MF of 1 is in House D for 12th house so

> during its antra it will also be eager to give results for Pleasure

> and 12th house and also happiness which is 4th house. So 2 of the 3

> moksh trikon will be triggered in Moon antra and the results will be

> good as MF of Moon is is 1.

> >

> > So in short I said, Moon is in sag and in taurus navamsa, means

> again its in unccha rasi in Navamsa.

> >

> > Actually degree of Moon is 5sg30 so it means that Moon is in

> trishansa of Saturn and navamsa of Venus and in dreshkon of Guru. So

> such a person might be intellegent, and will do his or her work in an

> artistic way and will be more ethical and dharmic and might not resort

> to wrong things.

> >

> >

> > Similarly you can check for Sun's degree and lagna degree and we can

> get the idea of intelligence.

> >

> > If you see Trishansa, you will see 2 sectors of Mercury and 1 of

> Saturn so Mercury is intellegence and Saturn is Brilliance, so this

> native had good intelligence, such a person can see things and pick

> them up and such persons try to understand the depth of things so they

> can re-construct it using their intelligence. Such persons also do

> things or their with artistic touch. The 2 sectors of Jupiter will

> make a persons believe more in dharam and might fear to do wrong

> things and it maybe also due pressure of society etc.

> >

> > I hope you get the idea.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> Ashji can you pls elobrate on this, it would be very helpful

> for me to

> > understand :

> > " Moon is in sign of Guru in Rasi and in a fixed sign in

> > navamsa i.e. Taurus its unccha rasi.

> >

> > You can also see 3 sectors of Venus and 2 sectors of Guru i.e. lagna,

> > sun and moon in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa. "

> >

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Manoshi, Manu, Bala, Ramesh, Harjeet and all list members,

> > >

> > > The first thing to do is to identify the basic chart before

dwelling

> > > into timing of event.

> > >

> > > So first study the overall make up of the chart.

> > >

> > > Here you can see the following.

> > >

> > > Lagna point is 36 so its showing an adamant, hot headed and

egoistic

> > > nature. Moon is in sign of Guru in Rasi and in a fixed sign in

> > > navamsa i.e. Taurus its unccha rasi.

> > >

> > > You can also see 3 sectors of Venus and 2 sectors of Guru i.e.

lagna,

> > > sun and moon in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa.

> > >

> > > You can also see 6th lord is in 5th house (in 12th) so the

status of

> > > 5th house, 5th lord is in 4th house so in 12th, for 3rd house, 12th

> > > lord from 3rd is in 3rd and for 2nd house, its 12th lord i.e

1st lord

> > > is in 2nd house.

> > >

> > > You will also notice, Jupiter is in libra in this chart (in

navamsa).

> > >

> > > Now there is full delay due to Saturn and Jupiter both. Sa is at

> > > 25deg39 in Cancer. There after when Jupiter's delay is over when

> > > Jupiter will touch 7th house. This happens

> > >

> > > By the time delay is over its around 1st October 2005. So marriage

> > > will happen after that.

> > >

> > > That time Mercury antra is running.

> > >

> > > Before that, we can see Ra and Ma are aspecting 5th house and 11th

> > > hosue in Navamsa. Mostly all house points for 2nd, 5th, 12th and

> 11th

> > > are all low. Ma and Ve are 2:12 (lagna and 7th), Me and Ju are in

> > > 3:11 (Mo and 7th) and from sun and 7th i.e. sa and mo are in 6:8,

> > > Venus and 7th i.e. Jupiter and Mercury are in 3:11, so all these

> > > things are showing adjustment and especially with such high

points in

> > > lagna one would have to do more adjusting and it would be even more

> > > challenging.

> > >

> > > If you also see the house average the total points are less than 84

> > > for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, 10th and 12th. For

11th

> > > house its 85 so barely 1 over average, and for 7th house its 99.

> > >

> > > So overall happiness from each house is also less.

> > >

> > > So overall the happiness is less or child birth is difficult.

> > >

> > > So based on all points, its clear that this is a chart holds less

> > > promise of a happy marital life and there will be more

challenge and

> > > adjustment.

> > >

> > > So Mercury, being the lowest power planet and 6th lord would give

> > > marriage, as per our law that unhappy marriages will happen in

lowest

> > > power planet.

> > >

> > > I think all of you saw that the marriage was unhappy, and all

of you

> > > pointed this out in some form or the other in your mails. The only

> > > mistake you all did was u did not go for lowest power planet. So

> this

> > > chart is a very good chart for learning.

> > >

> > > Now next is sector. There is full delay in this chart so 3rd

sector

> > > would give marriage. This marriage happened in the every end

of 2nd

> > > sector and if you consider 13 days difference when 3rd sector of

> > > mercury starts it would be hardly 15 days difference.

> > >

> > > This marriage happened in the pdf of Ju and Ketu i.e when Sun was

> > > transitting the sign of Guru and nakshatra of Ketu.

> > >

> > > Guru is the highest power planet and Ketu is in house so so is

eager

> > > to give and hence the marriage happened in the highest 2 power

> planet.

> > >

> > > So we took Mercury as antra and then Ju and Ketu for pdf.

> > >

> > > In any case, when I read all of your analysis, I was very happy, as

> > > all of you were on the right track. All of you have pointed

out this

> > > is not a chart of a happy marriage and there seemed to be some

> problem.

> > >

> > > In any case, more and more practice will get you all perfect.

> > >

> > > Very good attempt, by all, and Manoshi thanks for sending this

chart

> > > to the list for practice.

> > >

> > > Kudos to all of you. Well Done !!!

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " harjeet bakshi "

> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > thanks for the post Manoshiji...

> > > > so its the lowest and 6th lord antra too... if i am not mistaken.

> > > > i would also like to know from Manu, Bala, Ashji or yourself

that 2

> > > > zeroes in navamsa that too in 4th house D and 7th house B are

> someway

> > > > responsible too besides what you explained.. ?

> > > > yeah i had noticed that for the 5th house all the planets were

> weak in

> > > > the worksheet and for the 12th i guess only 2 planets were

> having 12

> > > > or above points...

> > > > this is very interesting post and would be keenly waiting on

> Ashji's

> > > > expertise on this chart.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > , " Manoshi

> Chatterjee "

> > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is the date of marriage:

> > > > >

> > > > > 24th Decemeber 2005

> > > > >

> > > > > Marriage was held in lowest points.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have not discussed the chart with Ash so may be Manu and

> Bala are

> > > > > in a better position to explain the reason behind it.

> > > > >

> > > > > According to me the reasons could be:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1)checking the 1:7 planet positions

> > > > > (a) From Lagna- Mars:Venus=2:12 (bad)

> > > > > (b) From Sun- Moon:Saturn=6:8 (bad)

> > > > > © From Moon- jupiter:mercury=3:11 (not bad)

> > > > >

> > > > > 5th house points are all low, if that has anything to do with

> > > > > marriage in low points.

> > > > >

> > > > > About children, this lady had her first conception in

> November 2006

> > > > > and she had a miscarriage in two months time. Conception

> > happened as

> > > > > soon as Venus antra started (LoD for 5th house) and venus has

> high

> > > > > points for 11th house (conception).

> > > > >

> > > > > Bala and Manu if you could explain more on this chart which

> > could be

> > > > > followed by Ash.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Manoshi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " harjeet

> bakshi "

> > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > i would like to attempt it too.

> > > > > > the time if 00:44 if is 00:43 the lagna in navamsa

changes and

> > > > > saturn

> > > > > > goes to the 5th house... aspecting A,B AND C for 7th house.

> > > > > > jupiter is with venus the lord of B and A.

> > > > > > so delay by both saturn and jupiter.

> > > > > > jupiter is in libra in navamsa and aspects saturn cant

> check the

> > > > > delay

> > > > > > by saturn.

> > > > > > there are 2 zereos in navamsa for house 4th and 7th ie D

and B.

> > > > > > jupiter is loE.

> > > > > > the delay by saturn ends sometimes in 2002.

> > > > > > that time jupiter is in 4th house...

> > > > > > i would go for dealy of jupiter ending when it reaches

the 7th

> > house

> > > > > > sometime in 2005 mid...

> > > > > > mercury antra is going on which cant give marriage..

> > > > > > next antra is of ketu which is samdhari to jupiter loE

can give

> > > > > > marriage...

> > > > > > ketu is also in 12th house so in its antra would give the

> > result for

> > > > > > 8th house from there i.e. 7th..

> > > > > > may be by the end of second sector or 3rd sector.

> > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, Bala, Nanu,

> > > > > > > I knew my answer is wrong and it is hinted by Manoshi.

> > > > > > > Marriage can not be in Su-Su.But this chart is showing

love

> > > > > marriage

> > > > > > > because LoE Ju and LoA PLUS LoB Ve both are together in 3rd

> > house

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > aspected malefically by Mo LoD.Since the aspect of LoD and

> > LoE in

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > considered malefic,Mo being LoD might have given marriage.

> > > > > > > On the other hand if you see the points of Lagna Lord

Ma and

> > its

> > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > lord Ve then it is in 2/12 combination so 5 points. Mo/Sa

> is in

> > > > > 6/8

> > > > > > > so 0 point and Me/Ju in 3/11 so 20 points.Therefore it

comes

> > out

> > > > > > > total 25 points.It is showing unhappy married life.

> > > > > > > Ve and Ju both are closely conjunct and they are in

lagna in

> > > > > libra

> > > > > > > navamsa alongwith Su.

> > > > > > > Antara of Su can not give marriage. Mo antara can not give

> > > > > marriage

> > > > > > > because it is spoiled due to association with 6th lord Me

> > and so

> > > > > Ma

> > > > > > > also in navamsa.

> > > > > > > Ra is in 6th house and represents Me.Since the marriage is

> > > > > unhappy, I

> > > > > > > came to the conclusion that marriage might happen in Ra

> > antra of

> > > > > Su

> > > > > > > main.Ra antara runs from 31 Oct 2002 to 24 Sep 2004.The

> > marriage

> > > > > > > might be in 3rd sector which comes from 6 Jun 2003 to

24 Sep

> > 2003.

> > > > > > > Therefore it is concluded with the approximate date of

> marriage

> > > > > might

> > > > > > > be sometime between Jun/2003 and Sep/2003 in Su/Ra.

> > > > > > > If this is also incorrect then I am myself helpless.

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Manu and Bala,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I will post the answer on Tuesday. Please look into the

> chart

> > > > > again

> > > > > > > > and very closely. Though I myself was not able to solve

> the

> > > > > chart,

> > > > > > > > but later as Ash told me the EXACT antra, I was taken

> > aback. I

> > > > > > > still

> > > > > > > > dont know exactly what Ash must have read in the chart to

> > find

> > > > > out

> > > > > > > > the correct marriage time.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > None of you are correct yet. Please try again. Please

read

> > the

> > > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > again closely before coming to any conclusion.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > All the best

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Manu

> > Batura "

> > > > > > > > <manubatura@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Didi,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Interesting chart....thanks.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Asc is 23ari02.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Since, Ash has solved the chart, I am assuming the

birth

> > time

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > rectified.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Following are some observations:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Sa aspects A, B, C in navamsa.

> > > > > > > > > 2. Ju aspects Sa in navamsa but it is in lib.

> > > > > > > > > 3. Ju also aspects B and with LoA in rasi.

> > > > > > > > > 4. Sa delay till Aug 2002.

> > > > > > > > > 5. I think delay will be over in me antra.

> > > > > > > > > 6. Me weak for marriage.

> > > > > > > > > 7. Next is ke, ke SD to Ju and Me. Ke will give

marriage.

> > > > > > > > > 8. First sector from may 2006 to june 2006 is what I

> think

> > > > > should

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > the time for marriage.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Shall wait for correct answer.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks again.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Manu

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ,

> " Manoshi

> > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Here is a chart to solve for all of you. Time

MARRIAGE

> > for

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > female

> > > > > > > > > > native. I could not do it but Ash did it EXACT. Also,

> > what

> > > > > > > > prospects do

> > > > > > > > > > you see for the child birth of the native?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > here are the details:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Birth date: 28 July 1977

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Birth Time: 0 hours 44 Minutes

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Birth co-ordiantes:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 10N31

> > > > > > > > > > 76E13

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > India

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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thanks again

regards

harjeet

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

> This is just what I was thinking I wrote when I was studying the

> chart. If I try to write everything and each degree of planet I am

> seeing, I will go mad.... so I just typed that portion , when I was

> studying this lady's mental make up and personality along with 36

> bindus in lagna so everything is a cummulative effect.

>

> So in her mind, this lady will not give up on marriage or leave her

> husband easily.

>

> Now unhappy marriage and all things are covered in my earlier post.

>

> Please do not get confused. You asked about what I saw when I was

> seeing Moon in sag, and moon in taurus a fixed sign in navamsa etc, so

> i wrote a mail in that reference.

>

> Please do not get confused.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " harjeet bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > thanks very much Sir, i got the idea after reading this explanation...

> > but confused that how it affects or rather plays part in unhappy

> > marriage... as i thought the above scenario was the criteria of

> > unhappy marriage.

> > cause i thought that sun/moon/lagna in sectors of venus might affect

> > the marriage as person would be more sensual nature ?

> >

> > the other question i have is that for men we see lord of sign where

> > venus is and the 7th from there and for women we see lord of sign

> > where mars is and 7th from there.... does it shows the sexual

> > behaviour of the person...

> > like say if the lords are in 5:9 then the person would be more active

> > and if its in 2:12 the person wont have interest or frigid kind?

> > i am sorry if i might have used any strong language or words here...

> > regards

> > harjeet

> >

> >

> > , Ash <ashsam73@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > This would be the VA portion.

> > >

> > > Moon is in 9th house in sign of Sag which is ruled by Guru. Guru is

> > friend is Moon. So moon is in a friends house. Its also a dual sign

> > and a fiery sign. These are the properties of Sagittarius.

> > >

> > > Sagittarius is also 9th house of kalpurush chart and in this case

> > lagna is aries.

> > >

> > > Moon is the significator of mind or mana and happiness. Its in the

> > sign of Sag in this chart so it means its in 6th house (powerful

> > upachaya sthan) so such persons are fortunate, reason being, 4th house

> > status is enhanced and 4th house is karak for 9th house so it will

> > make the results of 9th house enhanced and felt better. MF for moon

> > is 1 so its not less than 1 which would mean in enemy or debilitation

> > sign.

> > >

> > > Moon in 9th house with MF of 1 is in House D for 12th house so

> > during its antra it will also be eager to give results for Pleasure

> > and 12th house and also happiness which is 4th house. So 2 of the 3

> > moksh trikon will be triggered in Moon antra and the results will be

> > good as MF of Moon is is 1.

> > >

> > > So in short I said, Moon is in sag and in taurus navamsa, means

> > again its in unccha rasi in Navamsa.

> > >

> > > Actually degree of Moon is 5sg30 so it means that Moon is in

> > trishansa of Saturn and navamsa of Venus and in dreshkon of Guru. So

> > such a person might be intellegent, and will do his or her work in an

> > artistic way and will be more ethical and dharmic and might not resort

> > to wrong things.

> > >

> > >

> > > Similarly you can check for Sun's degree and lagna degree and we can

> > get the idea of intelligence.

> > >

> > > If you see Trishansa, you will see 2 sectors of Mercury and 1 of

> > Saturn so Mercury is intellegence and Saturn is Brilliance, so this

> > native had good intelligence, such a person can see things and pick

> > them up and such persons try to understand the depth of things so they

> > can re-construct it using their intelligence. Such persons also do

> > things or their with artistic touch. The 2 sectors of Jupiter will

> > make a persons believe more in dharam and might fear to do wrong

> > things and it maybe also due pressure of society etc.

> > >

> > > I hope you get the idea.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > Ashji can you pls elobrate on this, it would be very helpful

> > for me to

> > > understand :

> > > " Moon is in sign of Guru in Rasi and in a fixed sign in

> > > navamsa i.e. Taurus its unccha rasi.

> > >

> > > You can also see 3 sectors of Venus and 2 sectors of Guru i.e.

lagna,

> > > sun and moon in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa. "

> > >

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Manoshi, Manu, Bala, Ramesh, Harjeet and all list members,

> > > >

> > > > The first thing to do is to identify the basic chart before

> dwelling

> > > > into timing of event.

> > > >

> > > > So first study the overall make up of the chart.

> > > >

> > > > Here you can see the following.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna point is 36 so its showing an adamant, hot headed and

> egoistic

> > > > nature. Moon is in sign of Guru in Rasi and in a fixed sign in

> > > > navamsa i.e. Taurus its unccha rasi.

> > > >

> > > > You can also see 3 sectors of Venus and 2 sectors of Guru i.e.

> lagna,

> > > > sun and moon in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa.

> > > >

> > > > You can also see 6th lord is in 5th house (in 12th) so the

> status of

> > > > 5th house, 5th lord is in 4th house so in 12th, for 3rd

house, 12th

> > > > lord from 3rd is in 3rd and for 2nd house, its 12th lord i.e

> 1st lord

> > > > is in 2nd house.

> > > >

> > > > You will also notice, Jupiter is in libra in this chart (in

> navamsa).

> > > >

> > > > Now there is full delay due to Saturn and Jupiter both. Sa is at

> > > > 25deg39 in Cancer. There after when Jupiter's delay is over when

> > > > Jupiter will touch 7th house. This happens

> > > >

> > > > By the time delay is over its around 1st October 2005. So

marriage

> > > > will happen after that.

> > > >

> > > > That time Mercury antra is running.

> > > >

> > > > Before that, we can see Ra and Ma are aspecting 5th house and

11th

> > > > hosue in Navamsa. Mostly all house points for 2nd, 5th, 12th and

> > 11th

> > > > are all low. Ma and Ve are 2:12 (lagna and 7th), Me and Ju

are in

> > > > 3:11 (Mo and 7th) and from sun and 7th i.e. sa and mo are in 6:8,

> > > > Venus and 7th i.e. Jupiter and Mercury are in 3:11, so all these

> > > > things are showing adjustment and especially with such high

> points in

> > > > lagna one would have to do more adjusting and it would be

even more

> > > > challenging.

> > > >

> > > > If you also see the house average the total points are less

than 84

> > > > for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, 10th and 12th. For

> 11th

> > > > house its 85 so barely 1 over average, and for 7th house its 99.

> > > >

> > > > So overall happiness from each house is also less.

> > > >

> > > > So overall the happiness is less or child birth is difficult.

> > > >

> > > > So based on all points, its clear that this is a chart holds less

> > > > promise of a happy marital life and there will be more

> challenge and

> > > > adjustment.

> > > >

> > > > So Mercury, being the lowest power planet and 6th lord would give

> > > > marriage, as per our law that unhappy marriages will happen in

> lowest

> > > > power planet.

> > > >

> > > > I think all of you saw that the marriage was unhappy, and all

> of you

> > > > pointed this out in some form or the other in your mails.

The only

> > > > mistake you all did was u did not go for lowest power planet. So

> > this

> > > > chart is a very good chart for learning.

> > > >

> > > > Now next is sector. There is full delay in this chart so 3rd

> sector

> > > > would give marriage. This marriage happened in the every end

> of 2nd

> > > > sector and if you consider 13 days difference when 3rd sector of

> > > > mercury starts it would be hardly 15 days difference.

> > > >

> > > > This marriage happened in the pdf of Ju and Ketu i.e when Sun was

> > > > transitting the sign of Guru and nakshatra of Ketu.

> > > >

> > > > Guru is the highest power planet and Ketu is in house so so is

> eager

> > > > to give and hence the marriage happened in the highest 2 power

> > planet.

> > > >

> > > > So we took Mercury as antra and then Ju and Ketu for pdf.

> > > >

> > > > In any case, when I read all of your analysis, I was very

happy, as

> > > > all of you were on the right track. All of you have pointed

> out this

> > > > is not a chart of a happy marriage and there seemed to be some

> > problem.

> > > >

> > > > In any case, more and more practice will get you all perfect.

> > > >

> > > > Very good attempt, by all, and Manoshi thanks for sending this

> chart

> > > > to the list for practice.

> > > >

> > > > Kudos to all of you. Well Done !!!

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " harjeet bakshi "

> > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks for the post Manoshiji...

> > > > > so its the lowest and 6th lord antra too... if i am not

mistaken.

> > > > > i would also like to know from Manu, Bala, Ashji or yourself

> that 2

> > > > > zeroes in navamsa that too in 4th house D and 7th house B are

> > someway

> > > > > responsible too besides what you explained.. ?

> > > > > yeah i had noticed that for the 5th house all the planets were

> > weak in

> > > > > the worksheet and for the 12th i guess only 2 planets were

> > having 12

> > > > > or above points...

> > > > > this is very interesting post and would be keenly waiting on

> > Ashji's

> > > > > expertise on this chart.

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > Chatterjee "

> > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here is the date of marriage:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 24th Decemeber 2005

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Marriage was held in lowest points.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have not discussed the chart with Ash so may be Manu and

> > Bala are

> > > > > > in a better position to explain the reason behind it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > According to me the reasons could be:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1)checking the 1:7 planet positions

> > > > > > (a) From Lagna- Mars:Venus=2:12 (bad)

> > > > > > (b) From Sun- Moon:Saturn=6:8 (bad)

> > > > > > © From Moon- jupiter:mercury=3:11 (not bad)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5th house points are all low, if that has anything to do

with

> > > > > > marriage in low points.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > About children, this lady had her first conception in

> > November 2006

> > > > > > and she had a miscarriage in two months time. Conception

> > > happened as

> > > > > > soon as Venus antra started (LoD for 5th house) and venus has

> > high

> > > > > > points for 11th house (conception).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bala and Manu if you could explain more on this chart which

> > > could be

> > > > > > followed by Ash.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Manoshi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " harjeet

> > bakshi "

> > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > > i would like to attempt it too.

> > > > > > > the time if 00:44 if is 00:43 the lagna in navamsa

> changes and

> > > > > > saturn

> > > > > > > goes to the 5th house... aspecting A,B AND C for 7th house.

> > > > > > > jupiter is with venus the lord of B and A.

> > > > > > > so delay by both saturn and jupiter.

> > > > > > > jupiter is in libra in navamsa and aspects saturn cant

> > check the

> > > > > > delay

> > > > > > > by saturn.

> > > > > > > there are 2 zereos in navamsa for house 4th and 7th ie D

> and B.

> > > > > > > jupiter is loE.

> > > > > > > the delay by saturn ends sometimes in 2002.

> > > > > > > that time jupiter is in 4th house...

> > > > > > > i would go for dealy of jupiter ending when it reaches

> the 7th

> > > house

> > > > > > > sometime in 2005 mid...

> > > > > > > mercury antra is going on which cant give marriage..

> > > > > > > next antra is of ketu which is samdhari to jupiter loE

> can give

> > > > > > > marriage...

> > > > > > > ketu is also in 12th house so in its antra would give the

> > > result for

> > > > > > > 8th house from there i.e. 7th..

> > > > > > > may be by the end of second sector or 3rd sector.

> > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

> > > " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, Bala, Nanu,

> > > > > > > > I knew my answer is wrong and it is hinted by Manoshi.

> > > > > > > > Marriage can not be in Su-Su.But this chart is showing

> love

> > > > > > marriage

> > > > > > > > because LoE Ju and LoA PLUS LoB Ve both are together

in 3rd

> > > house

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > aspected malefically by Mo LoD.Since the aspect of

LoD and

> > > LoE in

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > considered malefic,Mo being LoD might have given

marriage.

> > > > > > > > On the other hand if you see the points of Lagna Lord

> Ma and

> > > its

> > > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > > lord Ve then it is in 2/12 combination so 5 points. Mo/Sa

> > is in

> > > > > > 6/8

> > > > > > > > so 0 point and Me/Ju in 3/11 so 20 points.Therefore it

> comes

> > > out

> > > > > > > > total 25 points.It is showing unhappy married life.

> > > > > > > > Ve and Ju both are closely conjunct and they are in

> lagna in

> > > > > > libra

> > > > > > > > navamsa alongwith Su.

> > > > > > > > Antara of Su can not give marriage. Mo antara can not

give

> > > > > > marriage

> > > > > > > > because it is spoiled due to association with 6th lord Me

> > > and so

> > > > > > Ma

> > > > > > > > also in navamsa.

> > > > > > > > Ra is in 6th house and represents Me.Since the

marriage is

> > > > > > unhappy, I

> > > > > > > > came to the conclusion that marriage might happen in Ra

> > > antra of

> > > > > > Su

> > > > > > > > main.Ra antara runs from 31 Oct 2002 to 24 Sep 2004.The

> > > marriage

> > > > > > > > might be in 3rd sector which comes from 6 Jun 2003 to

> 24 Sep

> > > 2003.

> > > > > > > > Therefore it is concluded with the approximate date of

> > marriage

> > > > > > might

> > > > > > > > be sometime between Jun/2003 and Sep/2003 in Su/Ra.

> > > > > > > > If this is also incorrect then I am myself helpless.

> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

" Manoshi

> > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Manu and Bala,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I will post the answer on Tuesday. Please look into the

> > chart

> > > > > > again

> > > > > > > > > and very closely. Though I myself was not able to solve

> > the

> > > > > > chart,

> > > > > > > > > but later as Ash told me the EXACT antra, I was taken

> > > aback. I

> > > > > > > > still

> > > > > > > > > dont know exactly what Ash must have read in the

chart to

> > > find

> > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > the correct marriage time.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > None of you are correct yet. Please try again. Please

> read

> > > the

> > > > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > > again closely before coming to any conclusion.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > All the best

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Manu

> > > Batura "

> > > > > > > > > <manubatura@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Didi,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Interesting chart....thanks.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Asc is 23ari02.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Since, Ash has solved the chart, I am assuming the

> birth

> > > time

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > rectified.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Following are some observations:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1. Sa aspects A, B, C in navamsa.

> > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju aspects Sa in navamsa but it is in lib.

> > > > > > > > > > 3. Ju also aspects B and with LoA in rasi.

> > > > > > > > > > 4. Sa delay till Aug 2002.

> > > > > > > > > > 5. I think delay will be over in me antra.

> > > > > > > > > > 6. Me weak for marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > 7. Next is ke, ke SD to Ju and Me. Ke will give

> marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > 8. First sector from may 2006 to june 2006 is what I

> > think

> > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > the time for marriage.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Shall wait for correct answer.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks again.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Manu

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ,

> > " Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Here is a chart to solve for all of you. Time

> MARRIAGE

> > > for

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > female

> > > > > > > > > > > native. I could not do it but Ash did it EXACT.

Also,

> > > what

> > > > > > > > > prospects do

> > > > > > > > > > > you see for the child birth of the native?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > here are the details:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Birth date: 28 July 1977

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Birth Time: 0 hours 44 Minutes

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Birth co-ordiantes:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 10N31

> > > > > > > > > > > 76E13

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > India

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Harjeet,

 

Sorry, I forgot to address this portion of your mail. You wrote

 

" > > the other question i have is that for men we see lord of sign where

> > venus is and the 7th from there and for women we see lord of sign

> > where mars is and 7th from there.... does it shows the sexual

> > behaviour of the person...

> > like say if the lords are in 5:9 then the person would be more active

> > and if its in 2:12 the person wont have interest or frigid kind?

> > i am sorry if i might have used any strong language or words here... "

 

 

ASH: FOR MALE WE CHECK FROM LAGNA, SUN, MOON AND VENUS, AND FOR

FEMALE CHART WE CHECK MARS IN ADDITION, MEANS WE CHECK FROM LAGNA,

SUN, MOON, VENUS AND MARS AND THEIR 7TH AND SEE THEIR RELATION.

 

IF THEY ARE IN 5:9 THEN ITS GOOD, MEANS IN HARMONY. IF IN 2:12 AND

6:8 THEN ITS NOT GOOD LIKE THAT.

 

CHEERS !!!

ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

---In , " harjeet bakshi "

<harjeet_bakshi wrote:

>

> thanks again

> regards

> harjeet

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> > This is just what I was thinking I wrote when I was studying the

> > chart. If I try to write everything and each degree of planet I am

> > seeing, I will go mad.... so I just typed that portion , when I was

> > studying this lady's mental make up and personality along with 36

> > bindus in lagna so everything is a cummulative effect.

> >

> > So in her mind, this lady will not give up on marriage or leave her

> > husband easily.

> >

> > Now unhappy marriage and all things are covered in my earlier post.

> >

> > Please do not get confused. You asked about what I saw when I was

> > seeing Moon in sag, and moon in taurus a fixed sign in navamsa etc, so

> > i wrote a mail in that reference.

> >

> > Please do not get confused.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > , " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > thanks very much Sir, i got the idea after reading this

explanation...

> > > but confused that how it affects or rather plays part in unhappy

> > > marriage... as i thought the above scenario was the criteria of

> > > unhappy marriage.

> > > cause i thought that sun/moon/lagna in sectors of venus might affect

> > > the marriage as person would be more sensual nature ?

> > >

> > > the other question i have is that for men we see lord of sign where

> > > venus is and the 7th from there and for women we see lord of sign

> > > where mars is and 7th from there.... does it shows the sexual

> > > behaviour of the person...

> > > like say if the lords are in 5:9 then the person would be more

active

> > > and if its in 2:12 the person wont have interest or frigid kind?

> > > i am sorry if i might have used any strong language or words

here...

> > > regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > >

> > > , Ash <ashsam73@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > This would be the VA portion.

> > > >

> > > > Moon is in 9th house in sign of Sag which is ruled by Guru.

Guru is

> > > friend is Moon. So moon is in a friends house. Its also a dual

sign

> > > and a fiery sign. These are the properties of Sagittarius.

> > > >

> > > > Sagittarius is also 9th house of kalpurush chart and in this case

> > > lagna is aries.

> > > >

> > > > Moon is the significator of mind or mana and happiness. Its

in the

> > > sign of Sag in this chart so it means its in 6th house (powerful

> > > upachaya sthan) so such persons are fortunate, reason being, 4th

house

> > > status is enhanced and 4th house is karak for 9th house so it will

> > > make the results of 9th house enhanced and felt better. MF for moon

> > > is 1 so its not less than 1 which would mean in enemy or

debilitation

> > > sign.

> > > >

> > > > Moon in 9th house with MF of 1 is in House D for 12th house so

> > > during its antra it will also be eager to give results for Pleasure

> > > and 12th house and also happiness which is 4th house. So 2 of the 3

> > > moksh trikon will be triggered in Moon antra and the results will be

> > > good as MF of Moon is is 1.

> > > >

> > > > So in short I said, Moon is in sag and in taurus navamsa, means

> > > again its in unccha rasi in Navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > Actually degree of Moon is 5sg30 so it means that Moon is in

> > > trishansa of Saturn and navamsa of Venus and in dreshkon of

Guru. So

> > > such a person might be intellegent, and will do his or her work

in an

> > > artistic way and will be more ethical and dharmic and might not

resort

> > > to wrong things.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Similarly you can check for Sun's degree and lagna degree and

we can

> > > get the idea of intelligence.

> > > >

> > > > If you see Trishansa, you will see 2 sectors of Mercury and 1 of

> > > Saturn so Mercury is intellegence and Saturn is Brilliance, so this

> > > native had good intelligence, such a person can see things and pick

> > > them up and such persons try to understand the depth of things

so they

> > > can re-construct it using their intelligence. Such persons also do

> > > things or their with artistic touch. The 2 sectors of Jupiter will

> > > make a persons believe more in dharam and might fear to do wrong

> > > things and it maybe also due pressure of society etc.

> > > >

> > > > I hope you get the idea.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > Ashji can you pls elobrate on this, it would be very helpful

> > > for me to

> > > > understand :

> > > > " Moon is in sign of Guru in Rasi and in a fixed sign in

> > > > navamsa i.e. Taurus its unccha rasi.

> > > >

> > > > You can also see 3 sectors of Venus and 2 sectors of Guru i.e.

> lagna,

> > > > sun and moon in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa. "

> > > >

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Manoshi, Manu, Bala, Ramesh, Harjeet and all list members,

> > > > >

> > > > > The first thing to do is to identify the basic chart before

> > dwelling

> > > > > into timing of event.

> > > > >

> > > > > So first study the overall make up of the chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here you can see the following.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna point is 36 so its showing an adamant, hot headed and

> > egoistic

> > > > > nature. Moon is in sign of Guru in Rasi and in a fixed

sign in

> > > > > navamsa i.e. Taurus its unccha rasi.

> > > > >

> > > > > You can also see 3 sectors of Venus and 2 sectors of Guru i.e.

> > lagna,

> > > > > sun and moon in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa.

> > > > >

> > > > > You can also see 6th lord is in 5th house (in 12th) so the

> > status of

> > > > > 5th house, 5th lord is in 4th house so in 12th, for 3rd

> house, 12th

> > > > > lord from 3rd is in 3rd and for 2nd house, its 12th lord i.e

> > 1st lord

> > > > > is in 2nd house.

> > > > >

> > > > > You will also notice, Jupiter is in libra in this chart (in

> > navamsa).

> > > > >

> > > > > Now there is full delay due to Saturn and Jupiter both. Sa

is at

> > > > > 25deg39 in Cancer. There after when Jupiter's delay is

over when

> > > > > Jupiter will touch 7th house. This happens

> > > > >

> > > > > By the time delay is over its around 1st October 2005. So

> marriage

> > > > > will happen after that.

> > > > >

> > > > > That time Mercury antra is running.

> > > > >

> > > > > Before that, we can see Ra and Ma are aspecting 5th house and

> 11th

> > > > > hosue in Navamsa. Mostly all house points for 2nd, 5th,

12th and

> > > 11th

> > > > > are all low. Ma and Ve are 2:12 (lagna and 7th), Me and Ju

> are in

> > > > > 3:11 (Mo and 7th) and from sun and 7th i.e. sa and mo are

in 6:8,

> > > > > Venus and 7th i.e. Jupiter and Mercury are in 3:11, so all

these

> > > > > things are showing adjustment and especially with such high

> > points in

> > > > > lagna one would have to do more adjusting and it would be

> even more

> > > > > challenging.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you also see the house average the total points are less

> than 84

> > > > > for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, 10th and 12th. For

> > 11th

> > > > > house its 85 so barely 1 over average, and for 7th house

its 99.

> > > > >

> > > > > So overall happiness from each house is also less.

> > > > >

> > > > > So overall the happiness is less or child birth is difficult.

> > > > >

> > > > > So based on all points, its clear that this is a chart

holds less

> > > > > promise of a happy marital life and there will be more

> > challenge and

> > > > > adjustment.

> > > > >

> > > > > So Mercury, being the lowest power planet and 6th lord

would give

> > > > > marriage, as per our law that unhappy marriages will happen in

> > lowest

> > > > > power planet.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think all of you saw that the marriage was unhappy, and all

> > of you

> > > > > pointed this out in some form or the other in your mails.

> The only

> > > > > mistake you all did was u did not go for lowest power

planet. So

> > > this

> > > > > chart is a very good chart for learning.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now next is sector. There is full delay in this chart so 3rd

> > sector

> > > > > would give marriage. This marriage happened in the every end

> > of 2nd

> > > > > sector and if you consider 13 days difference when 3rd

sector of

> > > > > mercury starts it would be hardly 15 days difference.

> > > > >

> > > > > This marriage happened in the pdf of Ju and Ketu i.e when

Sun was

> > > > > transitting the sign of Guru and nakshatra of Ketu.

> > > > >

> > > > > Guru is the highest power planet and Ketu is in house so so is

> > eager

> > > > > to give and hence the marriage happened in the highest 2 power

> > > planet.

> > > > >

> > > > > So we took Mercury as antra and then Ju and Ketu for pdf.

> > > > >

> > > > > In any case, when I read all of your analysis, I was very

> happy, as

> > > > > all of you were on the right track. All of you have pointed

> > out this

> > > > > is not a chart of a happy marriage and there seemed to be some

> > > problem.

> > > > >

> > > > > In any case, more and more practice will get you all perfect.

> > > > >

> > > > > Very good attempt, by all, and Manoshi thanks for sending this

> > chart

> > > > > to the list for practice.

> > > > >

> > > > > Kudos to all of you. Well Done !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " harjeet

bakshi "

> > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks for the post Manoshiji...

> > > > > > so its the lowest and 6th lord antra too... if i am not

> mistaken.

> > > > > > i would also like to know from Manu, Bala, Ashji or yourself

> > that 2

> > > > > > zeroes in navamsa that too in 4th house D and 7th house B are

> > > someway

> > > > > > responsible too besides what you explained.. ?

> > > > > > yeah i had noticed that for the 5th house all the planets

were

> > > weak in

> > > > > > the worksheet and for the 12th i guess only 2 planets were

> > > having 12

> > > > > > or above points...

> > > > > > this is very interesting post and would be keenly waiting on

> > > Ashji's

> > > > > > expertise on this chart.

> > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Manoshi

> > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here is the date of marriage:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 24th Decemeber 2005

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Marriage was held in lowest points.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have not discussed the chart with Ash so may be Manu and

> > > Bala are

> > > > > > > in a better position to explain the reason behind it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > According to me the reasons could be:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1)checking the 1:7 planet positions

> > > > > > > (a) From Lagna- Mars:Venus=2:12 (bad)

> > > > > > > (b) From Sun- Moon:Saturn=6:8 (bad)

> > > > > > > © From Moon- jupiter:mercury=3:11 (not bad)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5th house points are all low, if that has anything to do

> with

> > > > > > > marriage in low points.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > About children, this lady had her first conception in

> > > November 2006

> > > > > > > and she had a miscarriage in two months time. Conception

> > > > happened as

> > > > > > > soon as Venus antra started (LoD for 5th house) and

venus has

> > > high

> > > > > > > points for 11th house (conception).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bala and Manu if you could explain more on this chart which

> > > > could be

> > > > > > > followed by Ash.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > Manoshi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " harjeet

> > > bakshi "

> > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > > > i would like to attempt it too.

> > > > > > > > the time if 00:44 if is 00:43 the lagna in navamsa

> > changes and

> > > > > > > saturn

> > > > > > > > goes to the 5th house... aspecting A,B AND C for 7th

house.

> > > > > > > > jupiter is with venus the lord of B and A.

> > > > > > > > so delay by both saturn and jupiter.

> > > > > > > > jupiter is in libra in navamsa and aspects saturn cant

> > > check the

> > > > > > > delay

> > > > > > > > by saturn.

> > > > > > > > there are 2 zereos in navamsa for house 4th and 7th ie D

> > and B.

> > > > > > > > jupiter is loE.

> > > > > > > > the delay by saturn ends sometimes in 2002.

> > > > > > > > that time jupiter is in 4th house...

> > > > > > > > i would go for dealy of jupiter ending when it reaches

> > the 7th

> > > > house

> > > > > > > > sometime in 2005 mid...

> > > > > > > > mercury antra is going on which cant give marriage..

> > > > > > > > next antra is of ketu which is samdhari to jupiter loE

> > can give

> > > > > > > > marriage...

> > > > > > > > ketu is also in 12th house so in its antra would give the

> > > > result for

> > > > > > > > 8th house from there i.e. 7th..

> > > > > > > > may be by the end of second sector or 3rd sector.

> > > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

> > > > " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, Bala, Nanu,

> > > > > > > > > I knew my answer is wrong and it is hinted by Manoshi.

> > > > > > > > > Marriage can not be in Su-Su.But this chart is showing

> > love

> > > > > > > marriage

> > > > > > > > > because LoE Ju and LoA PLUS LoB Ve both are together

> in 3rd

> > > > house

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > aspected malefically by Mo LoD.Since the aspect of

> LoD and

> > > > LoE in

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > considered malefic,Mo being LoD might have given

> marriage.

> > > > > > > > > On the other hand if you see the points of Lagna Lord

> > Ma and

> > > > its

> > > > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > > > lord Ve then it is in 2/12 combination so 5 points.

Mo/Sa

> > > is in

> > > > > > > 6/8

> > > > > > > > > so 0 point and Me/Ju in 3/11 so 20 points.Therefore it

> > comes

> > > > out

> > > > > > > > > total 25 points.It is showing unhappy married life.

> > > > > > > > > Ve and Ju both are closely conjunct and they are in

> > lagna in

> > > > > > > libra

> > > > > > > > > navamsa alongwith Su.

> > > > > > > > > Antara of Su can not give marriage. Mo antara can not

> give

> > > > > > > marriage

> > > > > > > > > because it is spoiled due to association with 6th

lord Me

> > > > and so

> > > > > > > Ma

> > > > > > > > > also in navamsa.

> > > > > > > > > Ra is in 6th house and represents Me.Since the

> marriage is

> > > > > > > unhappy, I

> > > > > > > > > came to the conclusion that marriage might happen in Ra

> > > > antra of

> > > > > > > Su

> > > > > > > > > main.Ra antara runs from 31 Oct 2002 to 24 Sep 2004.The

> > > > marriage

> > > > > > > > > might be in 3rd sector which comes from 6 Jun 2003 to

> > 24 Sep

> > > > 2003.

> > > > > > > > > Therefore it is concluded with the approximate date of

> > > marriage

> > > > > > > might

> > > > > > > > > be sometime between Jun/2003 and Sep/2003 in Su/Ra.

> > > > > > > > > If this is also incorrect then I am myself helpless.

> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ,

> " Manoshi

> > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Manu and Bala,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I will post the answer on Tuesday. Please look

into the

> > > chart

> > > > > > > again

> > > > > > > > > > and very closely. Though I myself was not able to

solve

> > > the

> > > > > > > chart,

> > > > > > > > > > but later as Ash told me the EXACT antra, I was taken

> > > > aback. I

> > > > > > > > > still

> > > > > > > > > > dont know exactly what Ash must have read in the

> chart to

> > > > find

> > > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > > the correct marriage time.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > None of you are correct yet. Please try again. Please

> > read

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > > > again closely before coming to any conclusion.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > All the best

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ,

" Manu

> > > > Batura "

> > > > > > > > > > <manubatura@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Didi,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Interesting chart....thanks.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Asc is 23ari02.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Since, Ash has solved the chart, I am assuming the

> > birth

> > > > time

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > rectified.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Following are some observations:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 1. Sa aspects A, B, C in navamsa.

> > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju aspects Sa in navamsa but it is in lib.

> > > > > > > > > > > 3. Ju also aspects B and with LoA in rasi.

> > > > > > > > > > > 4. Sa delay till Aug 2002.

> > > > > > > > > > > 5. I think delay will be over in me antra.

> > > > > > > > > > > 6. Me weak for marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > > 7. Next is ke, ke SD to Ju and Me. Ke will give

> > marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > > 8. First sector from may 2006 to june 2006 is

what I

> > > think

> > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > the time for marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Shall wait for correct answer.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Manu

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ,

> > > " Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a chart to solve for all of you. Time

> > MARRIAGE

> > > > for

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > female

> > > > > > > > > > > > native. I could not do it but Ash did it EXACT.

> Also,

> > > > what

> > > > > > > > > > prospects do

> > > > > > > > > > > > you see for the child birth of the native?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > here are the details:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Birth date: 28 July 1977

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Birth Time: 0 hours 44 Minutes

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Birth co-ordiantes:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 10N31

> > > > > > > > > > > > 76E13

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > India

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Ash for explaining the details.

 

--Manoshi

 

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

> This is just what I was thinking I wrote when I was studying the

> chart. If I try to write everything and each degree of planet I am

> seeing, I will go mad.... so I just typed that portion , when I was

> studying this lady's mental make up and personality along with 36

> bindus in lagna so everything is a cummulative effect.

>

> So in her mind, this lady will not give up on marriage or leave her

> husband easily.

>

> Now unhappy marriage and all things are covered in my earlier post.

>

> Please do not get confused. You asked about what I saw when I was

> seeing Moon in sag, and moon in taurus a fixed sign in navamsa etc,

so

> i wrote a mail in that reference.

>

> Please do not get confused.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " harjeet bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > thanks very much Sir, i got the idea after reading this

explanation...

> > but confused that how it affects or rather plays part in unhappy

> > marriage... as i thought the above scenario was the criteria of

> > unhappy marriage.

> > cause i thought that sun/moon/lagna in sectors of venus might

affect

> > the marriage as person would be more sensual nature ?

> >

> > the other question i have is that for men we see lord of sign

where

> > venus is and the 7th from there and for women we see lord of sign

> > where mars is and 7th from there.... does it shows the sexual

> > behaviour of the person...

> > like say if the lords are in 5:9 then the person would be more

active

> > and if its in 2:12 the person wont have interest or frigid kind?

> > i am sorry if i might have used any strong language or words

here...

> > regards

> > harjeet

> >

> >

> > , Ash <ashsam73@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > This would be the VA portion.

> > >

> > > Moon is in 9th house in sign of Sag which is ruled by Guru.

Guru is

> > friend is Moon. So moon is in a friends house. Its also a dual

sign

> > and a fiery sign. These are the properties of Sagittarius.

> > >

> > > Sagittarius is also 9th house of kalpurush chart and in this

case

> > lagna is aries.

> > >

> > > Moon is the significator of mind or mana and happiness. Its in

the

> > sign of Sag in this chart so it means its in 6th house (powerful

> > upachaya sthan) so such persons are fortunate, reason being, 4th

house

> > status is enhanced and 4th house is karak for 9th house so it will

> > make the results of 9th house enhanced and felt better. MF for

moon

> > is 1 so its not less than 1 which would mean in enemy or

debilitation

> > sign.

> > >

> > > Moon in 9th house with MF of 1 is in House D for 12th house so

> > during its antra it will also be eager to give results for

Pleasure

> > and 12th house and also happiness which is 4th house. So 2 of

the 3

> > moksh trikon will be triggered in Moon antra and the results will

be

> > good as MF of Moon is is 1.

> > >

> > > So in short I said, Moon is in sag and in taurus navamsa, means

> > again its in unccha rasi in Navamsa.

> > >

> > > Actually degree of Moon is 5sg30 so it means that Moon is in

> > trishansa of Saturn and navamsa of Venus and in dreshkon of

Guru. So

> > such a person might be intellegent, and will do his or her work

in an

> > artistic way and will be more ethical and dharmic and might not

resort

> > to wrong things.

> > >

> > >

> > > Similarly you can check for Sun's degree and lagna degree and

we can

> > get the idea of intelligence.

> > >

> > > If you see Trishansa, you will see 2 sectors of Mercury and 1 of

> > Saturn so Mercury is intellegence and Saturn is Brilliance, so

this

> > native had good intelligence, such a person can see things and

pick

> > them up and such persons try to understand the depth of things so

they

> > can re-construct it using their intelligence. Such persons also

do

> > things or their with artistic touch. The 2 sectors of Jupiter

will

> > make a persons believe more in dharam and might fear to do wrong

> > things and it maybe also due pressure of society etc.

> > >

> > > I hope you get the idea.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > Ashji can you pls elobrate on this, it would be very

helpful

> > for me to

> > > understand :

> > > " Moon is in sign of Guru in Rasi and in a fixed sign in

> > > navamsa i.e. Taurus its unccha rasi.

> > >

> > > You can also see 3 sectors of Venus and 2 sectors of Guru i.e.

lagna,

> > > sun and moon in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa. "

> > >

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Manoshi, Manu, Bala, Ramesh, Harjeet and all list

members,

> > > >

> > > > The first thing to do is to identify the basic chart before

> dwelling

> > > > into timing of event.

> > > >

> > > > So first study the overall make up of the chart.

> > > >

> > > > Here you can see the following.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna point is 36 so its showing an adamant, hot headed and

> egoistic

> > > > nature. Moon is in sign of Guru in Rasi and in a fixed

sign in

> > > > navamsa i.e. Taurus its unccha rasi.

> > > >

> > > > You can also see 3 sectors of Venus and 2 sectors of Guru

i.e.

> lagna,

> > > > sun and moon in navamsa, dreshkon and trishansa.

> > > >

> > > > You can also see 6th lord is in 5th house (in 12th) so the

> status of

> > > > 5th house, 5th lord is in 4th house so in 12th, for 3rd

house, 12th

> > > > lord from 3rd is in 3rd and for 2nd house, its 12th lord i.e

> 1st lord

> > > > is in 2nd house.

> > > >

> > > > You will also notice, Jupiter is in libra in this chart (in

> navamsa).

> > > >

> > > > Now there is full delay due to Saturn and Jupiter both. Sa

is at

> > > > 25deg39 in Cancer. There after when Jupiter's delay is over

when

> > > > Jupiter will touch 7th house. This happens

> > > >

> > > > By the time delay is over its around 1st October 2005. So

marriage

> > > > will happen after that.

> > > >

> > > > That time Mercury antra is running.

> > > >

> > > > Before that, we can see Ra and Ma are aspecting 5th house

and 11th

> > > > hosue in Navamsa. Mostly all house points for 2nd, 5th,

12th and

> > 11th

> > > > are all low. Ma and Ve are 2:12 (lagna and 7th), Me and Ju

are in

> > > > 3:11 (Mo and 7th) and from sun and 7th i.e. sa and mo are in

6:8,

> > > > Venus and 7th i.e. Jupiter and Mercury are in 3:11, so all

these

> > > > things are showing adjustment and especially with such high

> points in

> > > > lagna one would have to do more adjusting and it would be

even more

> > > > challenging.

> > > >

> > > > If you also see the house average the total points are less

than 84

> > > > for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, 10th and 12th.

For

> 11th

> > > > house its 85 so barely 1 over average, and for 7th house its

99.

> > > >

> > > > So overall happiness from each house is also less.

> > > >

> > > > So overall the happiness is less or child birth is

difficult.

> > > >

> > > > So based on all points, its clear that this is a chart holds

less

> > > > promise of a happy marital life and there will be more

> challenge and

> > > > adjustment.

> > > >

> > > > So Mercury, being the lowest power planet and 6th lord would

give

> > > > marriage, as per our law that unhappy marriages will happen

in

> lowest

> > > > power planet.

> > > >

> > > > I think all of you saw that the marriage was unhappy, and all

> of you

> > > > pointed this out in some form or the other in your mails.

The only

> > > > mistake you all did was u did not go for lowest power

planet. So

> > this

> > > > chart is a very good chart for learning.

> > > >

> > > > Now next is sector. There is full delay in this chart so 3rd

> sector

> > > > would give marriage. This marriage happened in the every end

> of 2nd

> > > > sector and if you consider 13 days difference when 3rd

sector of

> > > > mercury starts it would be hardly 15 days difference.

> > > >

> > > > This marriage happened in the pdf of Ju and Ketu i.e when

Sun was

> > > > transitting the sign of Guru and nakshatra of Ketu.

> > > >

> > > > Guru is the highest power planet and Ketu is in house so so

is

> eager

> > > > to give and hence the marriage happened in the highest 2

power

> > planet.

> > > >

> > > > So we took Mercury as antra and then Ju and Ketu for pdf.

> > > >

> > > > In any case, when I read all of your analysis, I was very

happy, as

> > > > all of you were on the right track. All of you have pointed

> out this

> > > > is not a chart of a happy marriage and there seemed to be

some

> > problem.

> > > >

> > > > In any case, more and more practice will get you all

perfect.

> > > >

> > > > Very good attempt, by all, and Manoshi thanks for sending

this

> chart

> > > > to the list for practice.

> > > >

> > > > Kudos to all of you. Well Done !!!

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " harjeet

bakshi "

> > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks for the post Manoshiji...

> > > > > so its the lowest and 6th lord antra too... if i am not

mistaken.

> > > > > i would also like to know from Manu, Bala, Ashji or

yourself

> that 2

> > > > > zeroes in navamsa that too in 4th house D and 7th house B

are

> > someway

> > > > > responsible too besides what you explained.. ?

> > > > > yeah i had noticed that for the 5th house all the planets

were

> > weak in

> > > > > the worksheet and for the 12th i guess only 2 planets were

> > having 12

> > > > > or above points...

> > > > > this is very interesting post and would be keenly waiting

on

> > Ashji's

> > > > > expertise on this chart.

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Manoshi

> > Chatterjee "

> > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here is the date of marriage:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 24th Decemeber 2005

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Marriage was held in lowest points.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have not discussed the chart with Ash so may be Manu

and

> > Bala are

> > > > > > in a better position to explain the reason behind it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > According to me the reasons could be:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1)checking the 1:7 planet positions

> > > > > > (a) From Lagna- Mars:Venus=2:12 (bad)

> > > > > > (b) From Sun- Moon:Saturn=6:8 (bad)

> > > > > > © From Moon- jupiter:mercury=3:11 (not bad)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5th house points are all low, if that has anything to do

with

> > > > > > marriage in low points.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > About children, this lady had her first conception in

> > November 2006

> > > > > > and she had a miscarriage in two months time. Conception

> > > happened as

> > > > > > soon as Venus antra started (LoD for 5th house) and

venus has

> > high

> > > > > > points for 11th house (conception).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bala and Manu if you could explain more on this chart

which

> > > could be

> > > > > > followed by Ash.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Manoshi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " harjeet

> > bakshi "

> > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > > i would like to attempt it too.

> > > > > > > the time if 00:44 if is 00:43 the lagna in navamsa

> changes and

> > > > > > saturn

> > > > > > > goes to the 5th house... aspecting A,B AND C for 7th

house.

> > > > > > > jupiter is with venus the lord of B and A.

> > > > > > > so delay by both saturn and jupiter.

> > > > > > > jupiter is in libra in navamsa and aspects saturn cant

> > check the

> > > > > > delay

> > > > > > > by saturn.

> > > > > > > there are 2 zereos in navamsa for house 4th and 7th ie

D

> and B.

> > > > > > > jupiter is loE.

> > > > > > > the delay by saturn ends sometimes in 2002.

> > > > > > > that time jupiter is in 4th house...

> > > > > > > i would go for dealy of jupiter ending when it reaches

> the 7th

> > > house

> > > > > > > sometime in 2005 mid...

> > > > > > > mercury antra is going on which cant give marriage..

> > > > > > > next antra is of ketu which is samdhari to jupiter loE

> can give

> > > > > > > marriage...

> > > > > > > ketu is also in 12th house so in its antra would give

the

> > > result for

> > > > > > > 8th house from there i.e. 7th..

> > > > > > > may be by the end of second sector or 3rd sector.

> > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

> > > " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Manoshi, Bala, Nanu,

> > > > > > > > I knew my answer is wrong and it is hinted by

Manoshi.

> > > > > > > > Marriage can not be in Su-Su.But this chart is

showing

> love

> > > > > > marriage

> > > > > > > > because LoE Ju and LoA PLUS LoB Ve both are together

in 3rd

> > > house

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > aspected malefically by Mo LoD.Since the aspect of

LoD and

> > > LoE in

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > considered malefic,Mo being LoD might have given

marriage.

> > > > > > > > On the other hand if you see the points of Lagna Lord

> Ma and

> > > its

> > > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > > lord Ve then it is in 2/12 combination so 5 points.

Mo/Sa

> > is in

> > > > > > 6/8

> > > > > > > > so 0 point and Me/Ju in 3/11 so 20 points.Therefore

it

> comes

> > > out

> > > > > > > > total 25 points.It is showing unhappy married life.

> > > > > > > > Ve and Ju both are closely conjunct and they are in

> lagna in

> > > > > > libra

> > > > > > > > navamsa alongwith Su.

> > > > > > > > Antara of Su can not give marriage. Mo antara can

not give

> > > > > > marriage

> > > > > > > > because it is spoiled due to association with 6th

lord Me

> > > and so

> > > > > > Ma

> > > > > > > > also in navamsa.

> > > > > > > > Ra is in 6th house and represents Me.Since the

marriage is

> > > > > > unhappy, I

> > > > > > > > came to the conclusion that marriage might happen in

Ra

> > > antra of

> > > > > > Su

> > > > > > > > main.Ra antara runs from 31 Oct 2002 to 24 Sep

2004.The

> > > marriage

> > > > > > > > might be in 3rd sector which comes from 6 Jun 2003 to

> 24 Sep

> > > 2003.

> > > > > > > > Therefore it is concluded with the approximate date

of

> > marriage

> > > > > > might

> > > > > > > > be sometime between Jun/2003 and Sep/2003 in Su/Ra.

> > > > > > > > If this is also incorrect then I am myself helpless.

> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

, " Manoshi

> > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, Manu and Bala,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I will post the answer on Tuesday. Please look

into the

> > chart

> > > > > > again

> > > > > > > > > and very closely. Though I myself was not able to

solve

> > the

> > > > > > chart,

> > > > > > > > > but later as Ash told me the EXACT antra, I was

taken

> > > aback. I

> > > > > > > > still

> > > > > > > > > dont know exactly what Ash must have read in the

chart to

> > > find

> > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > > the correct marriage time.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > None of you are correct yet. Please try again.

Please

> read

> > > the

> > > > > > > > chart

> > > > > > > > > again closely before coming to any conclusion.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > All the best

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

, " Manu

> > > Batura "

> > > > > > > > > <manubatura@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Didi,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Interesting chart....thanks.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Asc is 23ari02.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Since, Ash has solved the chart, I am assuming

the

> birth

> > > time

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > rectified.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Following are some observations:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1. Sa aspects A, B, C in navamsa.

> > > > > > > > > > 2. Ju aspects Sa in navamsa but it is in lib.

> > > > > > > > > > 3. Ju also aspects B and with LoA in rasi.

> > > > > > > > > > 4. Sa delay till Aug 2002.

> > > > > > > > > > 5. I think delay will be over in me antra.

> > > > > > > > > > 6. Me weak for marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > 7. Next is ke, ke SD to Ju and Me. Ke will give

> marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > 8. First sector from may 2006 to june 2006 is

what I

> > think

> > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > the time for marriage.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Shall wait for correct answer.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks again.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Manu

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ,

> > " Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > Chatterjee "

> > > > > > > > > > <khallopapa@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hi All,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Here is a chart to solve for all of you. Time

> MARRIAGE

> > > for

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > female

> > > > > > > > > > > native. I could not do it but Ash did it

EXACT. Also,

> > > what

> > > > > > > > > prospects do

> > > > > > > > > > > you see for the child birth of the native?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > here are the details:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Birth date: 28 July 1977

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Birth Time: 0 hours 44 Minutes

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Birth co-ordiantes:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 10N31

> > > > > > > > > > > 76E13

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > India

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --Manoshi

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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