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, " surya "

<dattapr2000 wrote:

>

> People often misunderstand that Dvaita is relationship between God &

> an ordinary human being. Such relationship is only the creator-

> created relationship. In Dvaita, Madhva says that the relationship

> between God and the soul is the relationship of Master-servant.

> Madhva Himself kept in the position of the servant of God. Every

> human being cannot claim such position of Madhva, without reaching

> that state by spiritual effort (Correct Spiritual Knowledge –

> Theoretical Devotion – Service).

>

> You must know that practical service to God alone can give any

> divine fruit. Correct spiritual knowledge & theoretical devotion are

> only like water & fertilizer for service-plant, which alone can

> yield fruit. Through such selfless sacrifice of service in terms of

> sacrifice of work & fruit of work, you will be selected as servant

> by God provided your service does not aspire any fruit including

> fruit of becoming human incarnation. Now you have entered inner

> circle of God & this is 1st step called as Dvaita.

>

> If you see Hanuman, He straightly jumped from the knowledge to the

> service and never expressed His love on God through songs and tears

> as per Valmiki Ramayana. Some plants yield fruits just with supply

> of water without fertilizer. Therefore, sometimes knowledge and

> service are sufficient without the intermediate theoretical

> devotion. But here the soil acts as a hidden fertilizer. Similarly,

> the theoretical devotion of Hanuman was kept hidden in the mind

> only. Hence this intermediate state exists in a hidden way in such

> cases.

>

> Now one of the closest servants, excels other servants in service

> and becomes the Son of God and sits on the right side of God as told

> by Jesus. Ramanuja also says that one of the most fortunate devotees

> sits on the lap of Lord Narayana and talks with Him and this is

> exactly coinciding with the above point of Bible. This is the second

> state of Vishishtaadvaita. Now such Son of God comes down to the

> earth with a gross body (as usual like any other human being) and

> God enters him and pervades all over the soul and body.

>

> Now, this Son of God is the human incarnation and is treated as God

> by the devotees for hearing the knowledge and serving the God. This

> Son of God gets the credit of all the wonderful works done by God,

> who is hidden in him. This is the third & final state of Advaita.

> God entered the devotee, stays for his lifetime and exits at the

> end. The entry of God is mentioned in the Veda (Tadevanupravishat…).

> The exit of God is mentioned in the Bible, when Jesus cried

> stating `Oh! God! Why did You leave me?'

>

> At the lotus feet of datta swami

> Surya

>

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