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Dear Harjeet,

 

Thanks you Harjeet for your kind words,

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " harjeet bakshi "

<harjeet_bakshi wrote:

>

> very good explanation and excellent for learning

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > I have posted a couple of new articles on my website. Kindly take a

> look.

> >

> > http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

>

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Dear Ash,

 

Nice articles, thanks.

 

One question on the article regarding death of the

native. What are combinations/salient points one looks

for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ?

Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You

mention 7th house, should one take that as house B.

 

Thanks.

 

Satish

--- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

 

> Dear Group,

>

> I have posted a couple of new articles on my

> website. Kindly take a look.

>

> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Satish,

 

My answers in CAPS.

 

 

, SPK

<aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

>

> Nice articles, thanks.

 

ASH : THANKS SATISH

 

>

> One question on the article regarding death of the

> native. What are combinations/salient points one looks

> for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ?

 

ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A VERY

SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. IT IS ALSO

VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC.

 

> Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You

> mention 7th house, should one take that as house B.

 

ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA.

 

ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH HOUSE

ARE CALLED AS MARAKA.

 

AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK.

SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS.

 

NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS

AND EVENTS.

 

FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE IS AN

ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT LEADS TO

DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART.

 

YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS WILL GET CLEAR.

 

>

> Thanks.

>

> Satish

 

CHEERS !!!

ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

> --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

>

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > I have posted a couple of new articles on my

> > website. Kindly take a look.

> >

> > http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Ash,

Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is very

commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been requesting you

from the very beginning.But still we the list members have been

waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter.

After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May be you might

have overlooked.

1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and not in

Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by Ma in

rasi.

Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members will

certainly get help from this analysis.

2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19. Perhaps

it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time version

3.1.1 was not in force.

2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and not as 02:45

AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event was not

givem ?

However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took place in the

same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second sector.

Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the margin.

Since the event was known thereafter, you might have adjusted the

birth time to bring the event in its third sector.

3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the natural death

or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps selecting

the MD lord ?

You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death owing to

other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death blindly,

sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we check up

7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter

commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into effect.

As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to

accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with that of 7th

house contrary to examining 6th house.

For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is like Me

and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me.

Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka sthaan of

8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the

selection of MD lord is difficult here.

Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this with 8th

house.

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Satish,

>

> My answers in CAPS.

>

>

> , SPK

> <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > Nice articles, thanks.

>

> ASH : THANKS SATISH

>

> >

> > One question on the article regarding death of the

> > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks

> > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ?

>

> ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A VERY

> SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. IT IS ALSO

> VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC.

>

> > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You

> > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B.

>

> ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA.

>

> ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH HOUSE

> ARE CALLED AS MARAKA.

>

> AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK.

> SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS.

>

> NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS

> AND EVENTS.

>

> FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE IS AN

> ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT LEADS TO

> DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART.

>

> YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS WILL GET

CLEAR.

>

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Satish

>

> CHEERS !!!

> ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my

> > > website. Kindly take a look.

> > >

> > > http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

____________________

______________

> > Looking for earth-friendly autos?

> > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center.

> > http://autos./green_center/

> >

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Dear Ramesh,

My replies in CAPS.

 

, " aarceemastro2002 "

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

> Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is very

> commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been requesting you

> from the very beginning.

 

ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.

 

But still we the list members have been

> waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter.

 

ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS ASKED

ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS TO SEE AND

TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE PROCESS

THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES ME TO

PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL TEACH OR GIVE

LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT. SOME OF

THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE FOLLOWING IT AND

OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION.

 

> After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May be you might

> have overlooked.

> 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and not in

> Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by Ma in

> rasi.

 

ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. I

HAVE MADE THE CHANGES.

 

> Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members will

> certainly get help from this analysis.

 

ASH : I HOPE SO.

 

> 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19. Perhaps

> it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time version

> 3.1.1 was not in force.

 

ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING 22:40:19. ITS 2

SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE

BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED.

 

> 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and not as 02:45

> AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event was not

> givem ?

> However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took place in the

> same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second sector.

> Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the margin.

> Since the event was known thereafter, you might have adjusted the

> birth time to bring the event in its third sector.

 

ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU CAN SEE THE

TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW NATIVE

IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ) WHO IS

A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD MENTIONED IF MEMORY

SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY. SO I WENT

ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK. YES, IN

THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL MAKE A BIG

DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE ACCEPT. SO

29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE OK.

HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION.

BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT THAT IS

OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY RANGE

WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN THAT.

 

SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT I KNEW

AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION.

 

IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE MUST BE A

SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME.

 

SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN ANY CASE,

I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR OBSERVATION.

 

> 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the natural death

> or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps selecting

> the MD lord ?

> You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death owing to

> other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death blindly,

> sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we check up

> 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter

> commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into effect.

> As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to

> accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with that of 7th

> house contrary to examining 6th house.

> For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is like Me

> and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me.

> Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka sthaan of

> 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the

> selection of MD lord is difficult here.

> Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this with 8th

> house.

 

ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS CLEAR. THE

ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME FRAME GIVEN

BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED.

 

I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN ALSO

SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE SELECTED.

VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE DEATH. SUN

IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING DEATH AND

THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED VENUS...

I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT.

 

WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE THING

BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME.

 

HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND UPTO HERE

EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ.

 

THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST POWER PLANET.

IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT COME UP

IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA.

 

AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS SYSTEM VERY

PRECICE.

 

I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE PICKED UP

SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ?

 

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

 

CHEERS !!!

ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Satish,

> >

> > My answers in CAPS.

> >

> >

> > , SPK

> > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > Nice articles, thanks.

> >

> > ASH : THANKS SATISH

> >

> > >

> > > One question on the article regarding death of the

> > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks

> > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ?

> >

> > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A VERY

> > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. IT IS ALSO

> > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC.

> >

> > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You

> > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B.

> >

> > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA.

> >

> > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH HOUSE

> > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA.

> >

> > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK.

> > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS.

> >

> > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS

> > AND EVENTS.

> >

> > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE IS AN

> > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT LEADS TO

> > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART.

> >

> > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS WILL GET

> CLEAR.

> >

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > > Satish

> >

> > CHEERS !!!

> > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Group,

> > > >

> > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my

> > > > website. Kindly take a look.

> > > >

> > > > http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> ____________________

> ______________

> > > Looking for earth-friendly autos?

> > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center.

> > > http://autos./green_center/

> > >

> >

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Dear Ash,

 

Greetings.

 

I just looked at the site and I am really impressed by your analysis.

Congrats for the

correct prediction on all the cases.

 

Thanks for being helpful on and off the list.

 

Regards

Bala

 

 

 

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Dear Bala,

Thank you for your kind words. I am just guiding, then the end it is

all your hard work and effort that is leading to your success.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, bala sosale

<bsosale wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

>

> Greetings.

>

> I just looked at the site and I am really impressed by your

analysis. Congrats for the

> correct prediction on all the cases.

>

> Thanks for being helpful on and off the list.

>

> Regards

> Bala

>

>

>

> Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business.

>

>

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Dear Ash,

When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do we get

even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing some

mistake anywhere ?

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Ramesh,

> My replies in CAPS.

>

> , " aarceemastro2002 "

> <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash,

> > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is

very

> > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been requesting

you

> > from the very beginning.

>

> ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.

>

> But still we the list members have been

> > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter.

>

> ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS ASKED

> ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS TO SEE

AND

> TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE

PROCESS

> THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES ME TO

> PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL TEACH OR

GIVE

> LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT. SOME

OF

> THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE FOLLOWING IT

AND

> OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION.

>

> > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May be you

might

> > have overlooked.

> > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and not in

> > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by Ma in

> > rasi.

>

> ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. I

> HAVE MADE THE CHANGES.

>

> > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members will

> > certainly get help from this analysis.

>

> ASH : I HOPE SO.

>

> > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19.

Perhaps

> > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time version

> > 3.1.1 was not in force.

>

> ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING 22:40:19.

ITS 2

> SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE

> BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED.

>

> > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and not as

02:45

> > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event was

not

> > givem ?

> > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took place in

the

> > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second sector.

> > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the

margin.

> > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have adjusted the

> > birth time to bring the event in its third sector.

>

> ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU CAN SEE

THE

> TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW NATIVE

> IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ) WHO

IS

> A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD MENTIONED IF

MEMORY

> SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY. SO I

WENT

> ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK. YES, IN

> THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL MAKE A

BIG

> DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE ACCEPT. SO

> 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE OK.

> HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION.

> BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT THAT IS

> OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY RANGE

> WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN

THAT.

>

> SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT I KNEW

> AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION.

>

> IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE MUST

BE A

> SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME.

>

> SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN ANY

CASE,

> I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR

OBSERVATION.

>

> > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the natural

death

> > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps

selecting

> > the MD lord ?

> > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death owing

to

> > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death

blindly,

> > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we

check up

> > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter

> > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into effect.

> > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to

> > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with that of

7th

> > house contrary to examining 6th house.

> > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is

like Me

> > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me.

> > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka sthaan

of

> > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the

> > selection of MD lord is difficult here.

> > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this with

8th

> > house.

>

> ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS CLEAR.

THE

> ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME FRAME

GIVEN

> BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED.

>

> I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN ALSO

> SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE SELECTED.

> VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE DEATH. SUN

> IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING DEATH AND

> THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED

VENUS...

> I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT.

>

> WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE THING

> BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME.

>

> HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND UPTO HERE

> EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ.

>

> THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST POWER

PLANET.

> IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT COME UP

> IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA.

>

> AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS SYSTEM

VERY

> PRECICE.

>

> I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE PICKED

UP

> SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ?

>

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

>

> CHEERS !!!

> ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

>

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Satish,

> > >

> > > My answers in CAPS.

> > >

> > >

> > > , SPK

> > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > Nice articles, thanks.

> > >

> > > ASH : THANKS SATISH

> > >

> > > >

> > > > One question on the article regarding death of the

> > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks

> > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ?

> > >

> > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A VERY

> > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. IT IS

ALSO

> > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC.

> > >

> > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You

> > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B.

> > >

> > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA.

> > >

> > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH

HOUSE

> > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA.

> > >

> > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS

KARAK.

> > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS.

> > >

> > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT

THINGS

> > > AND EVENTS.

> > >

> > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE

IS AN

> > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT

LEADS TO

> > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART.

> > >

> > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS WILL GET

> > CLEAR.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > >

> > > > Satish

> > >

> > > CHEERS !!!

> > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my

> > > > > website. Kindly take a look.

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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> > ______________

> > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos?

> > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green

Center.

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> > > >

> > >

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Dear Ramesh,

 

Good observation.

 

Ash, I also noticed that there is a difference of two arc sec from the

KAS version 3.1.1 and that mentioned in your article.

 

Ramesh, however, please also note that the value calculated in the KAS

program may deviate from actual KAY by a maximum of 2 arc second.

 

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

 

 

 

 

, " aarceemastro2002 "

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

> When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do we get

> even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing some

> mistake anywhere ?

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramesh,

> > My replies in CAPS.

> >

> > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash,

> > > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is

> very

> > > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been requesting

> you

> > > from the very beginning.

> >

> > ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.

> >

> > But still we the list members have been

> > > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter.

> >

> > ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS ASKED

> > ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS TO SEE

> AND

> > TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE

> PROCESS

> > THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES ME TO

> > PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL TEACH OR

> GIVE

> > LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT. SOME

> OF

> > THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE FOLLOWING IT

> AND

> > OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION.

> >

> > > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May be you

> might

> > > have overlooked.

> > > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and not in

> > > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by Ma in

> > > rasi.

> >

> > ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. I

> > HAVE MADE THE CHANGES.

> >

> > > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members will

> > > certainly get help from this analysis.

> >

> > ASH : I HOPE SO.

> >

> > > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19.

> Perhaps

> > > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time version

> > > 3.1.1 was not in force.

> >

> > ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING 22:40:19.

> ITS 2

> > SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE

> > BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED.

> >

> > > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and not as

> 02:45

> > > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event was

> not

> > > givem ?

> > > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took place in

> the

> > > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second sector.

> > > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the

> margin.

> > > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have adjusted the

> > > birth time to bring the event in its third sector.

> >

> > ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU CAN SEE

> THE

> > TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW NATIVE

> > IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ) WHO

> IS

> > A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD MENTIONED IF

> MEMORY

> > SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY. SO I

> WENT

> > ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK. YES, IN

> > THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL MAKE A

> BIG

> > DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE ACCEPT. SO

> > 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE OK.

> > HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION.

> > BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT THAT IS

> > OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY RANGE

> > WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN

> THAT.

> >

> > SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT I KNEW

> > AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION.

> >

> > IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE MUST

> BE A

> > SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME.

> >

> > SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN ANY

> CASE,

> > I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR

> OBSERVATION.

> >

> > > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the natural

> death

> > > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps

> selecting

> > > the MD lord ?

> > > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death owing

> to

> > > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death

> blindly,

> > > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we

> check up

> > > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter

> > > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into effect.

> > > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to

> > > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with that of

> 7th

> > > house contrary to examining 6th house.

> > > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is

> like Me

> > > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me.

> > > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka sthaan

> of

> > > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the

> > > selection of MD lord is difficult here.

> > > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this with

> 8th

> > > house.

> >

> > ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS CLEAR.

> THE

> > ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME FRAME

> GIVEN

> > BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED.

> >

> > I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN ALSO

> > SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE SELECTED.

> > VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE DEATH. SUN

> > IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING DEATH AND

> > THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED

> VENUS...

> > I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT.

> >

> > WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE THING

> > BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME.

> >

> > HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND UPTO HERE

> > EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ.

> >

> > THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST POWER

> PLANET.

> > IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT COME UP

> > IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA.

> >

> > AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS SYSTEM

> VERY

> > PRECICE.

> >

> > I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE PICKED

> UP

> > SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ?

> >

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > CHEERS !!!

> > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> >

> >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Satish,

> > > >

> > > > My answers in CAPS.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , SPK

> > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > Nice articles, thanks.

> > > >

> > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the

> > > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks

> > > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ?

> > > >

> > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A VERY

> > > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. IT IS

> ALSO

> > > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC.

> > > >

> > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You

> > > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B.

> > > >

> > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA.

> > > >

> > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH

> HOUSE

> > > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA.

> > > >

> > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS

> KARAK.

> > > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS.

> > > >

> > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT

> THINGS

> > > > AND EVENTS.

> > > >

> > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE

> IS AN

> > > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT

> LEADS TO

> > > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART.

> > > >

> > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS WILL GET

> > > CLEAR.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks.

> > > > >

> > > > > Satish

> > > >

> > > > CHEERS !!!

> > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my

> > > > > > website. Kindly take a look.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> ____________________

> > > ______________

> > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos?

> > > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green

> Center.

> > > > > http://autos./green_center/

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Manu,

Thanks for notice. I am not talking about manual calculation.Manually

it may be.Please understand my point. All the list members have

downloaded same version of KAS. When we cast the chart with same

version then there should not be any diff. even for a second in all

the data.

Thans and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura wrote:

>

> Dear Ramesh,

>

> Good observation.

>

> Ash, I also noticed that there is a difference of two arc sec from

the

> KAS version 3.1.1 and that mentioned in your article.

>

> Ramesh, however, please also note that the value calculated in the

KAS

> program may deviate from actual KAY by a maximum of 2 arc second.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

>

>

>

> , " aarceemastro2002 "

> <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash,

> > When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do we get

> > even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing some

> > mistake anywhere ?

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > My replies in CAPS.

> > >

> > > --- In

, " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is

> > very

> > > > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been

requesting

> > you

> > > > from the very beginning.

> > >

> > > ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.

> > >

> > > But still we the list members have been

> > > > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter.

> > >

> > > ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS

ASKED

> > > ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS TO

SEE

> > AND

> > > TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE

> > PROCESS

> > > THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES

ME TO

> > > PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL TEACH

OR

> > GIVE

> > > LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT.

SOME

> > OF

> > > THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE FOLLOWING

IT

> > AND

> > > OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION.

> > >

> > > > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May be

you

> > might

> > > > have overlooked.

> > > > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and

not in

> > > > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by

Ma in

> > > > rasi.

> > >

> > > ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT

OUT. I

> > > HAVE MADE THE CHANGES.

> > >

> > > > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members

will

> > > > certainly get help from this analysis.

> > >

> > > ASH : I HOPE SO.

> > >

> > > > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19.

> > Perhaps

> > > > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time

version

> > > > 3.1.1 was not in force.

> > >

> > > ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING

22:40:19.

> > ITS 2

> > > SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF

DIFFERENCE

> > > BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED.

> > >

> > > > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and not

as

> > 02:45

> > > > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event

was

> > not

> > > > givem ?

> > > > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took place

in

> > the

> > > > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second

sector.

> > > > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the

> > margin.

> > > > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have adjusted

the

> > > > birth time to bring the event in its third sector.

> > >

> > > ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU CAN

SEE

> > THE

> > > TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW

NATIVE

> > > IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ)

WHO

> > IS

> > > A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD MENTIONED IF

> > MEMORY

> > > SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY. SO

I

> > WENT

> > > ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK.

YES, IN

> > > THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL

MAKE A

> > BIG

> > > DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE ACCEPT.

SO

> > > 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE

OK.

> > > HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION.

> > > BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT

THAT IS

> > > OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY

RANGE

> > > WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE

CHOSEN

> > THAT.

> > >

> > > SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT I

KNEW

> > > AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION.

> > >

> > > IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE

MUST

> > BE A

> > > SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME.

> > >

> > > SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN

ANY

> > CASE,

> > > I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR

> > OBSERVATION.

> > >

> > > > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the

natural

> > death

> > > > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps

> > selecting

> > > > the MD lord ?

> > > > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death

owing

> > to

> > > > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death

> > blindly,

> > > > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we

> > check up

> > > > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter

> > > > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into

effect.

> > > > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to

> > > > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with that

of

> > 7th

> > > > house contrary to examining 6th house.

> > > > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is

> > like Me

> > > > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me.

> > > > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka

sthaan

> > of

> > > > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the

> > > > selection of MD lord is difficult here.

> > > > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this

with

> > 8th

> > > > house.

> > >

> > > ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS

CLEAR.

> > THE

> > > ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME

FRAME

> > GIVEN

> > > BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED.

> > >

> > > I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN

ALSO

> > > SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE

SELECTED.

> > > VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE

DEATH. SUN

> > > IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING

DEATH AND

> > > THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED

> > VENUS...

> > > I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT.

> > >

> > > WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE

THING

> > > BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME.

> > >

> > > HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND UPTO

HERE

> > > EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ.

> > >

> > > THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST POWER

> > PLANET.

> > > IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT

COME UP

> > > IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA.

> > >

> > > AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS

SYSTEM

> > VERY

> > > PRECICE.

> > >

> > > I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE

PICKED

> > UP

> > > SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ?

> > >

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > CHEERS !!!

> > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Satish,

> > > > >

> > > > > My answers in CAPS.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , SPK

> > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nice articles, thanks.

> > > > >

> > > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the

> > > > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks

> > > > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ?

> > > > >

> > > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A

VERY

> > > > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. IT

IS

> > ALSO

> > > > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You

> > > > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B.

> > > > >

> > > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA.

> > > > >

> > > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND

7TH

> > HOUSE

> > > > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA.

> > > > >

> > > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE

IS

> > KARAK.

> > > > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS.

> > > > >

> > > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2

DIFFERENT

> > THINGS

> > > > > AND EVENTS.

> > > > >

> > > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF

THERE

> > IS AN

> > > > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT

> > LEADS TO

> > > > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART.

> > > > >

> > > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS WILL

GET

> > > > CLEAR.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Satish

> > > > >

> > > > > CHEERS !!!

> > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my

> > > > > > > website. Kindly take a look.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> >

____________________

> > > > ______________

> > > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos?

> > > > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green

> > Center.

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Dear Manu,

I shall send you my copy of program to check why is this error

creeping in.

 

Ramesh, my program is different from KAS3.1.1 as I have added many

more things so something might be causing a slight error.

 

In any case, I shall take this offline and look into it.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura wrote:

>

> Dear Ramesh,

>

> Good observation.

>

> Ash, I also noticed that there is a difference of two arc sec from the

> KAS version 3.1.1 and that mentioned in your article.

>

> Ramesh, however, please also note that the value calculated in the KAS

> program may deviate from actual KAY by a maximum of 2 arc second.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

>

>

>

> , " aarceemastro2002 "

> <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash,

> > When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do we get

> > even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing some

> > mistake anywhere ?

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > My replies in CAPS.

> > >

> > > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is

> > very

> > > > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been requesting

> > you

> > > > from the very beginning.

> > >

> > > ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.

> > >

> > > But still we the list members have been

> > > > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter.

> > >

> > > ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS ASKED

> > > ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS TO SEE

> > AND

> > > TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE

> > PROCESS

> > > THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES ME TO

> > > PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL TEACH OR

> > GIVE

> > > LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT. SOME

> > OF

> > > THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE FOLLOWING IT

> > AND

> > > OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION.

> > >

> > > > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May be you

> > might

> > > > have overlooked.

> > > > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and not in

> > > > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by Ma in

> > > > rasi.

> > >

> > > ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. I

> > > HAVE MADE THE CHANGES.

> > >

> > > > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members will

> > > > certainly get help from this analysis.

> > >

> > > ASH : I HOPE SO.

> > >

> > > > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19.

> > Perhaps

> > > > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time version

> > > > 3.1.1 was not in force.

> > >

> > > ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING 22:40:19.

> > ITS 2

> > > SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE

> > > BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED.

> > >

> > > > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and not as

> > 02:45

> > > > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event was

> > not

> > > > givem ?

> > > > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took place in

> > the

> > > > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second sector.

> > > > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the

> > margin.

> > > > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have adjusted the

> > > > birth time to bring the event in its third sector.

> > >

> > > ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU CAN SEE

> > THE

> > > TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW NATIVE

> > > IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ) WHO

> > IS

> > > A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD MENTIONED IF

> > MEMORY

> > > SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY. SO I

> > WENT

> > > ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK. YES, IN

> > > THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL MAKE A

> > BIG

> > > DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE ACCEPT. SO

> > > 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE OK.

> > > HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION.

> > > BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT THAT IS

> > > OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY RANGE

> > > WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN

> > THAT.

> > >

> > > SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT I KNEW

> > > AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION.

> > >

> > > IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE MUST

> > BE A

> > > SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME.

> > >

> > > SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN ANY

> > CASE,

> > > I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR

> > OBSERVATION.

> > >

> > > > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the natural

> > death

> > > > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps

> > selecting

> > > > the MD lord ?

> > > > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death owing

> > to

> > > > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death

> > blindly,

> > > > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we

> > check up

> > > > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter

> > > > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into effect.

> > > > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to

> > > > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with that of

> > 7th

> > > > house contrary to examining 6th house.

> > > > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is

> > like Me

> > > > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me.

> > > > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka sthaan

> > of

> > > > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the

> > > > selection of MD lord is difficult here.

> > > > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this with

> > 8th

> > > > house.

> > >

> > > ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS CLEAR.

> > THE

> > > ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME FRAME

> > GIVEN

> > > BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED.

> > >

> > > I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN ALSO

> > > SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE SELECTED.

> > > VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE DEATH. SUN

> > > IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING DEATH AND

> > > THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED

> > VENUS...

> > > I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT.

> > >

> > > WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE THING

> > > BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME.

> > >

> > > HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND UPTO HERE

> > > EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ.

> > >

> > > THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST POWER

> > PLANET.

> > > IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT COME UP

> > > IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA.

> > >

> > > AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS SYSTEM

> > VERY

> > > PRECICE.

> > >

> > > I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE PICKED

> > UP

> > > SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ?

> > >

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > CHEERS !!!

> > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Satish,

> > > > >

> > > > > My answers in CAPS.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , SPK

> > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nice articles, thanks.

> > > > >

> > > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the

> > > > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks

> > > > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ?

> > > > >

> > > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A VERY

> > > > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. IT IS

> > ALSO

> > > > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You

> > > > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B.

> > > > >

> > > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA.

> > > > >

> > > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH

> > HOUSE

> > > > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA.

> > > > >

> > > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS

> > KARAK.

> > > > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS.

> > > > >

> > > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT

> > THINGS

> > > > > AND EVENTS.

> > > > >

> > > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE

> > IS AN

> > > > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT

> > LEADS TO

> > > > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART.

> > > > >

> > > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS WILL GET

> > > > CLEAR.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Satish

> > > > >

> > > > > CHEERS !!!

> > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my

> > > > > > > website. Kindly take a look.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > ____________________

> > > > ______________

> > > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos?

> > > > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green

> > Center.

> > > > > > http://autos./green_center/

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Resp Ashji,

the job article is very good for learning..... the breakdown analysis

is superb.. i mean sturn's aspect and pdf selection. one question sir,

say if there are zeroes in any chart, would that also push the sector

in job or purchase of house... or it deals only with marriage ?

thanks/regards

harjeet

 

 

, " Manu Batura "

<manubatura wrote:

>

> Dear Ramesh,

>

> Good observation.

>

> Ash, I also noticed that there is a difference of two arc sec from the

> KAS version 3.1.1 and that mentioned in your article.

>

> Ramesh, however, please also note that the value calculated in the KAS

> program may deviate from actual KAY by a maximum of 2 arc second.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

>

>

>

> , " aarceemastro2002 "

> <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash,

> > When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do we get

> > even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing some

> > mistake anywhere ?

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > My replies in CAPS.

> > >

> > > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is

> > very

> > > > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been requesting

> > you

> > > > from the very beginning.

> > >

> > > ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.

> > >

> > > But still we the list members have been

> > > > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter.

> > >

> > > ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS ASKED

> > > ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS TO SEE

> > AND

> > > TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE

> > PROCESS

> > > THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES ME TO

> > > PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL TEACH OR

> > GIVE

> > > LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT. SOME

> > OF

> > > THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE FOLLOWING IT

> > AND

> > > OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION.

> > >

> > > > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May be you

> > might

> > > > have overlooked.

> > > > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and not in

> > > > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by Ma in

> > > > rasi.

> > >

> > > ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. I

> > > HAVE MADE THE CHANGES.

> > >

> > > > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members will

> > > > certainly get help from this analysis.

> > >

> > > ASH : I HOPE SO.

> > >

> > > > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19.

> > Perhaps

> > > > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time version

> > > > 3.1.1 was not in force.

> > >

> > > ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING 22:40:19.

> > ITS 2

> > > SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE

> > > BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED.

> > >

> > > > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and not as

> > 02:45

> > > > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event was

> > not

> > > > givem ?

> > > > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took place in

> > the

> > > > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second sector.

> > > > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the

> > margin.

> > > > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have adjusted the

> > > > birth time to bring the event in its third sector.

> > >

> > > ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU CAN SEE

> > THE

> > > TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW NATIVE

> > > IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ) WHO

> > IS

> > > A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD MENTIONED IF

> > MEMORY

> > > SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY. SO I

> > WENT

> > > ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK. YES, IN

> > > THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL MAKE A

> > BIG

> > > DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE ACCEPT. SO

> > > 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE OK.

> > > HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION.

> > > BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT THAT IS

> > > OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY RANGE

> > > WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN

> > THAT.

> > >

> > > SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT I KNEW

> > > AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION.

> > >

> > > IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE MUST

> > BE A

> > > SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME.

> > >

> > > SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN ANY

> > CASE,

> > > I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR

> > OBSERVATION.

> > >

> > > > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the natural

> > death

> > > > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps

> > selecting

> > > > the MD lord ?

> > > > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death owing

> > to

> > > > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death

> > blindly,

> > > > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we

> > check up

> > > > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter

> > > > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into effect.

> > > > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to

> > > > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with that of

> > 7th

> > > > house contrary to examining 6th house.

> > > > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is

> > like Me

> > > > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me.

> > > > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka sthaan

> > of

> > > > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the

> > > > selection of MD lord is difficult here.

> > > > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this with

> > 8th

> > > > house.

> > >

> > > ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS CLEAR.

> > THE

> > > ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME FRAME

> > GIVEN

> > > BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED.

> > >

> > > I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN ALSO

> > > SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE SELECTED.

> > > VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE DEATH. SUN

> > > IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING DEATH AND

> > > THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED

> > VENUS...

> > > I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT.

> > >

> > > WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE THING

> > > BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME.

> > >

> > > HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND UPTO HERE

> > > EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ.

> > >

> > > THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST POWER

> > PLANET.

> > > IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT COME UP

> > > IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA.

> > >

> > > AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS SYSTEM

> > VERY

> > > PRECICE.

> > >

> > > I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE PICKED

> > UP

> > > SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ?

> > >

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > CHEERS !!!

> > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Satish,

> > > > >

> > > > > My answers in CAPS.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , SPK

> > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nice articles, thanks.

> > > > >

> > > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the

> > > > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks

> > > > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ?

> > > > >

> > > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A VERY

> > > > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. IT IS

> > ALSO

> > > > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You

> > > > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B.

> > > > >

> > > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA.

> > > > >

> > > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH

> > HOUSE

> > > > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA.

> > > > >

> > > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS

> > KARAK.

> > > > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS.

> > > > >

> > > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT

> > THINGS

> > > > > AND EVENTS.

> > > > >

> > > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE

> > IS AN

> > > > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT

> > LEADS TO

> > > > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART.

> > > > >

> > > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS WILL GET

> > > > CLEAR.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Satish

> > > > >

> > > > > CHEERS !!!

> > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my

> > > > > > > website. Kindly take a look.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > ____________________

> > > > ______________

> > > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos?

> > > > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green

> > Center.

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Dear Harjeet,

Yes, all things must be studied, together to get full idea.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " harjeet bakshi "

<harjeet_bakshi wrote:

>

> Resp Ashji,

> the job article is very good for learning..... the breakdown analysis

> is superb.. i mean sturn's aspect and pdf selection. one question sir,

> say if there are zeroes in any chart, would that also push the sector

> in job or purchase of house... or it deals only with marriage ?

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

>

> , " Manu Batura "

> <manubatura@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramesh,

> >

> > Good observation.

> >

> > Ash, I also noticed that there is a difference of two arc sec from the

> > KAS version 3.1.1 and that mentioned in your article.

> >

> > Ramesh, however, please also note that the value calculated in the KAS

> > program may deviate from actual KAY by a maximum of 2 arc second.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Manu

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash,

> > > When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do we get

> > > even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing some

> > > mistake anywhere ?

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > My replies in CAPS.

> > > >

> > > > ,

" aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is

> > > very

> > > > > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been requesting

> > > you

> > > > > from the very beginning.

> > > >

> > > > ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.

> > > >

> > > > But still we the list members have been

> > > > > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter.

> > > >

> > > > ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS

ASKED

> > > > ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS TO SEE

> > > AND

> > > > TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE

> > > PROCESS

> > > > THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES

ME TO

> > > > PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL TEACH OR

> > > GIVE

> > > > LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT.

SOME

> > > OF

> > > > THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE

FOLLOWING IT

> > > AND

> > > > OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION.

> > > >

> > > > > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May be you

> > > might

> > > > > have overlooked.

> > > > > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and

not in

> > > > > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by

Ma in

> > > > > rasi.

> > > >

> > > > ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT

OUT. I

> > > > HAVE MADE THE CHANGES.

> > > >

> > > > > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members will

> > > > > certainly get help from this analysis.

> > > >

> > > > ASH : I HOPE SO.

> > > >

> > > > > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19.

> > > Perhaps

> > > > > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time

version

> > > > > 3.1.1 was not in force.

> > > >

> > > > ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING 22:40:19.

> > > ITS 2

> > > > SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF

DIFFERENCE

> > > > BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED.

> > > >

> > > > > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and not as

> > > 02:45

> > > > > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event was

> > > not

> > > > > givem ?

> > > > > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took place in

> > > the

> > > > > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second sector.

> > > > > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the

> > > margin.

> > > > > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have

adjusted the

> > > > > birth time to bring the event in its third sector.

> > > >

> > > > ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU CAN SEE

> > > THE

> > > > TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW

NATIVE

> > > > IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ)

WHO

> > > IS

> > > > A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD MENTIONED IF

> > > MEMORY

> > > > SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY. SO I

> > > WENT

> > > > ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK.

YES, IN

> > > > THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL

MAKE A

> > > BIG

> > > > DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE ACCEPT. SO

> > > > 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE OK.

> > > > HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION.

> > > > BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT

THAT IS

> > > > OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY

RANGE

> > > > WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN

> > > THAT.

> > > >

> > > > SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT

I KNEW

> > > > AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION.

> > > >

> > > > IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE MUST

> > > BE A

> > > > SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME.

> > > >

> > > > SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN ANY

> > > CASE,

> > > > I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR

> > > OBSERVATION.

> > > >

> > > > > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the natural

> > > death

> > > > > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps

> > > selecting

> > > > > the MD lord ?

> > > > > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death

owing

> > > to

> > > > > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death

> > > blindly,

> > > > > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we

> > > check up

> > > > > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter

> > > > > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into effect.

> > > > > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to

> > > > > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with that of

> > > 7th

> > > > > house contrary to examining 6th house.

> > > > > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is

> > > like Me

> > > > > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me.

> > > > > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka sthaan

> > > of

> > > > > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the

> > > > > selection of MD lord is difficult here.

> > > > > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this with

> > > 8th

> > > > > house.

> > > >

> > > > ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS CLEAR.

> > > THE

> > > > ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME FRAME

> > > GIVEN

> > > > BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED.

> > > >

> > > > I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN ALSO

> > > > SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE

SELECTED.

> > > > VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE

DEATH. SUN

> > > > IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING

DEATH AND

> > > > THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED

> > > VENUS...

> > > > I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT.

> > > >

> > > > WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE THING

> > > > BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME.

> > > >

> > > > HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND UPTO HERE

> > > > EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ.

> > > >

> > > > THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST POWER

> > > PLANET.

> > > > IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT

COME UP

> > > > IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA.

> > > >

> > > > AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS SYSTEM

> > > VERY

> > > > PRECICE.

> > > >

> > > > I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE

PICKED

> > > UP

> > > > SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ?

> > > >

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > CHEERS !!!

> > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Satish,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My answers in CAPS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , SPK

> > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nice articles, thanks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the

> > > > > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks

> > > > > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A

VERY

> > > > > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH.

IT IS

> > > ALSO

> > > > > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You

> > > > > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH

> > > HOUSE

> > > > > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS

> > > KARAK.

> > > > > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT

> > > THINGS

> > > > > > AND EVENTS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE

> > > IS AN

> > > > > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT

> > > LEADS TO

> > > > > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS

WILL GET

> > > > > CLEAR.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Satish

> > > > > >

> > > > > > CHEERS !!!

> > > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my

> > > > > > > > website. Kindly take a look.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

____________________

> > > > > ______________

> > > > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos?

> > > > > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green

> > > Center.

> > > > > > > http://autos./green_center/

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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thanks.. so a person would 2 zeroes generally would be purchasing a

house or getting a job in third sector of antra ?

regards

harjeet

 

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

> Yes, all things must be studied, together to get full idea.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " harjeet bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > Resp Ashji,

> > the job article is very good for learning..... the breakdown analysis

> > is superb.. i mean sturn's aspect and pdf selection. one question sir,

> > say if there are zeroes in any chart, would that also push the sector

> > in job or purchase of house... or it deals only with marriage ?

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> >

> > , " Manu Batura "

> > <manubatura@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > >

> > > Good observation.

> > >

> > > Ash, I also noticed that there is a difference of two arc sec

from the

> > > KAS version 3.1.1 and that mentioned in your article.

> > >

> > > Ramesh, however, please also note that the value calculated in

the KAS

> > > program may deviate from actual KAY by a maximum of 2 arc second.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Manu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do we get

> > > > even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing some

> > > > mistake anywhere ?

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > My replies in CAPS.

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is

> > > > very

> > > > > > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been

requesting

> > > > you

> > > > > > from the very beginning.

> > > > >

> > > > > ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.

> > > > >

> > > > > But still we the list members have been

> > > > > > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter.

> > > > >

> > > > > ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS

> ASKED

> > > > > ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS

TO SEE

> > > > AND

> > > > > TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE

> > > > PROCESS

> > > > > THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES

> ME TO

> > > > > PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL

TEACH OR

> > > > GIVE

> > > > > LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT.

> SOME

> > > > OF

> > > > > THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE

> FOLLOWING IT

> > > > AND

> > > > > OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION.

> > > > >

> > > > > > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May

be you

> > > > might

> > > > > > have overlooked.

> > > > > > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and

> not in

> > > > > > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by

> Ma in

> > > > > > rasi.

> > > > >

> > > > > ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT

> OUT. I

> > > > > HAVE MADE THE CHANGES.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members

will

> > > > > > certainly get help from this analysis.

> > > > >

> > > > > ASH : I HOPE SO.

> > > > >

> > > > > > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19.

> > > > Perhaps

> > > > > > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time

> version

> > > > > > 3.1.1 was not in force.

> > > > >

> > > > > ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING

22:40:19.

> > > > ITS 2

> > > > > SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF

> DIFFERENCE

> > > > > BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED.

> > > > >

> > > > > > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and

not as

> > > > 02:45

> > > > > > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event

was

> > > > not

> > > > > > givem ?

> > > > > > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took

place in

> > > > the

> > > > > > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second

sector.

> > > > > > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the

> > > > margin.

> > > > > > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have

> adjusted the

> > > > > > birth time to bring the event in its third sector.

> > > > >

> > > > > ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU

CAN SEE

> > > > THE

> > > > > TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW

> NATIVE

> > > > > IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ)

> WHO

> > > > IS

> > > > > A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD MENTIONED IF

> > > > MEMORY

> > > > > SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY.

SO I

> > > > WENT

> > > > > ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK.

> YES, IN

> > > > > THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL

> MAKE A

> > > > BIG

> > > > > DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE

ACCEPT. SO

> > > > > 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE

OK.

> > > > > HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION.

> > > > > BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT

> THAT IS

> > > > > OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY

> RANGE

> > > > > WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE

CHOSEN

> > > > THAT.

> > > > >

> > > > > SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT

> I KNEW

> > > > > AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION.

> > > > >

> > > > > IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE

MUST

> > > > BE A

> > > > > SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME.

> > > > >

> > > > > SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN

ANY

> > > > CASE,

> > > > > I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR

> > > > OBSERVATION.

> > > > >

> > > > > > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the

natural

> > > > death

> > > > > > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps

> > > > selecting

> > > > > > the MD lord ?

> > > > > > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death

> owing

> > > > to

> > > > > > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death

> > > > blindly,

> > > > > > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we

> > > > check up

> > > > > > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter

> > > > > > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into

effect.

> > > > > > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to

> > > > > > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with

that of

> > > > 7th

> > > > > > house contrary to examining 6th house.

> > > > > > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is

> > > > like Me

> > > > > > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me.

> > > > > > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka

sthaan

> > > > of

> > > > > > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the

> > > > > > selection of MD lord is difficult here.

> > > > > > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this

with

> > > > 8th

> > > > > > house.

> > > > >

> > > > > ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS

CLEAR.

> > > > THE

> > > > > ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME

FRAME

> > > > GIVEN

> > > > > BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED.

> > > > >

> > > > > I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN

ALSO

> > > > > SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE

> SELECTED.

> > > > > VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE

> DEATH. SUN

> > > > > IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING

> DEATH AND

> > > > > THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED

> > > > VENUS...

> > > > > I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT.

> > > > >

> > > > > WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE

THING

> > > > > BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME.

> > > > >

> > > > > HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND

UPTO HERE

> > > > > EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ.

> > > > >

> > > > > THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST POWER

> > > > PLANET.

> > > > > IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT

> COME UP

> > > > > IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA.

> > > > >

> > > > > AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS

SYSTEM

> > > > VERY

> > > > > PRECICE.

> > > > >

> > > > > I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE

> PICKED

> > > > UP

> > > > > SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ?

> > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > CHEERS !!!

> > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Satish,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My answers in CAPS.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , SPK

> > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nice articles, thanks.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the

> > > > > > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks

> > > > > > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A

> VERY

> > > > > > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH.

> IT IS

> > > > ALSO

> > > > > > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You

> > > > > > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND

AND 7TH

> > > > HOUSE

> > > > > > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND

HOUSE IS

> > > > KARAK.

> > > > > > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2

DIFFERENT

> > > > THINGS

> > > > > > > AND EVENTS.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF

THERE

> > > > IS AN

> > > > > > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT

> > > > LEADS TO

> > > > > > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS

> WILL GET

> > > > > > CLEAR.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Satish

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > CHEERS !!!

> > > > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my

> > > > > > > > > website. Kindly take a look.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > >

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Dear Harjeet,

Hmm.. not so fast... study each and every angle... what if Jupiter is

aspecting a 0 causing planet.. or delay causing planet and ju is in

grip of sa or in libra then?

 

So all things must be taken into consideration, and that will vary

chart to chart...

 

What if the antra is that of delay causing planet then.. what if that

antra is running or that of SD, then ......

 

So all in all, Harjeet, study each chart and each antra from all

angles before coming to a final conclusion, and take your time. Study

it keenly.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " harjeet bakshi "

<harjeet_bakshi wrote:

>

> thanks.. so a person would 2 zeroes generally would be purchasing a

> house or getting a job in third sector of antra ?

> regards

> harjeet

>

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> > Yes, all things must be studied, together to get full idea.

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > , " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Resp Ashji,

> > > the job article is very good for learning..... the breakdown

analysis

> > > is superb.. i mean sturn's aspect and pdf selection. one

question sir,

> > > say if there are zeroes in any chart, would that also push the

sector

> > > in job or purchase of house... or it deals only with marriage ?

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Manu Batura "

> > > <manubatura@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > >

> > > > Good observation.

> > > >

> > > > Ash, I also noticed that there is a difference of two arc sec

> from the

> > > > KAS version 3.1.1 and that mentioned in your article.

> > > >

> > > > Ramesh, however, please also note that the value calculated in

> the KAS

> > > > program may deviate from actual KAY by a maximum of 2 arc second.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > Manu

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

" aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do

we get

> > > > > even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing

some

> > > > > mistake anywhere ?

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > My replies in CAPS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write

ups.It is

> > > > > very

> > > > > > > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been

> requesting

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > from the very beginning.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But still we the list members have been

> > > > > > > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet

Jupiter.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS

> > ASKED

> > > > > > ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS

> TO SEE

> > > > > AND

> > > > > > TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE

> > > > > PROCESS

> > > > > > THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES

> > ME TO

> > > > > > PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL

> TEACH OR

> > > > > GIVE

> > > > > > LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT.

> > SOME

> > > > > OF

> > > > > > THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE

> > FOLLOWING IT

> > > > > AND

> > > > > > OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May

> be you

> > > > > might

> > > > > > > have overlooked.

> > > > > > > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and

> > not in

> > > > > > > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by

> > Ma in

> > > > > > > rasi.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT

> > OUT. I

> > > > > > HAVE MADE THE CHANGES.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members

> will

> > > > > > > certainly get help from this analysis.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ASH : I HOPE SO.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19.

> > > > > Perhaps

> > > > > > > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time

> > version

> > > > > > > 3.1.1 was not in force.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING

> 22:40:19.

> > > > > ITS 2

> > > > > > SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF

> > DIFFERENCE

> > > > > > BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and

> not as

> > > > > 02:45

> > > > > > > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event

> was

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > givem ?

> > > > > > > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took

> place in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second

> sector.

> > > > > > > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes

in the

> > > > > margin.

> > > > > > > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have

> > adjusted the

> > > > > > > birth time to bring the event in its third sector.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU

> CAN SEE

> > > > > THE

> > > > > > TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW

> > NATIVE

> > > > > > IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ)

> > WHO

> > > > > IS

> > > > > > A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD

MENTIONED IF

> > > > > MEMORY

> > > > > > SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY.

> SO I

> > > > > WENT

> > > > > > ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK.

> > YES, IN

> > > > > > THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL

> > MAKE A

> > > > > BIG

> > > > > > DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE

> ACCEPT. SO

> > > > > > 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE

> OK.

> > > > > > HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION.

> > > > > > BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT

> > THAT IS

> > > > > > OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY

> > RANGE

> > > > > > WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE

> CHOSEN

> > > > > THAT.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT

> > I KNEW

> > > > > > AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE

> MUST

> > > > > BE A

> > > > > > SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN

> ANY

> > > > > CASE,

> > > > > > I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR

> > > > > OBSERVATION.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the

> natural

> > > > > death

> > > > > > > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps

> > > > > selecting

> > > > > > > the MD lord ?

> > > > > > > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death

> > owing

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death

> > > > > blindly,

> > > > > > > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for

accident we

> > > > > check up

> > > > > > > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and

thereafter

> > > > > > > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into

> effect.

> > > > > > > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not

due to

> > > > > > > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with

> that of

> > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > house contrary to examining 6th house.

> > > > > > > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak

sthaan.Ra is

> > > > > like Me

> > > > > > > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me.

> > > > > > > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka

> sthaan

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house.

But the

> > > > > > > selection of MD lord is difficult here.

> > > > > > > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this

> with

> > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS

> CLEAR.

> > > > > THE

> > > > > > ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME

> FRAME

> > > > > GIVEN

> > > > > > BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN

> ALSO

> > > > > > SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE

> > SELECTED.

> > > > > > VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE

> > DEATH. SUN

> > > > > > IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING

> > DEATH AND

> > > > > > THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED

> > > > > VENUS...

> > > > > > I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE

> THING

> > > > > > BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND

> UPTO HERE

> > > > > > EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST

POWER

> > > > > PLANET.

> > > > > > IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT

> > COME UP

> > > > > > IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS

> SYSTEM

> > > > > VERY

> > > > > > PRECICE.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE

> > PICKED

> > > > > UP

> > > > > > SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > CHEERS !!!

> > > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Satish,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My answers in CAPS.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , SPK

> > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nice articles, thanks.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the

> > > > > > > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks

> > > > > > > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A

> > VERY

> > > > > > > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH.

> > IT IS

> > > > > ALSO

> > > > > > > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You

> > > > > > > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS

KARAKTWA.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND

> AND 7TH

> > > > > HOUSE

> > > > > > > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND

> HOUSE IS

> > > > > KARAK.

> > > > > > > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2

> DIFFERENT

> > > > > THINGS

> > > > > > > > AND EVENTS.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF

> THERE

> > > > > IS AN

> > > > > > > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND

THAT

> > > > > LEADS TO

> > > > > > > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS

> > WILL GET

> > > > > > > CLEAR.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Satish

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > CHEERS !!!

> > > > > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my

> > > > > > > > > > website. Kindly take a look.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > >

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Resp Ashji,

thanks very much.

regards

harjeet

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

> Hmm.. not so fast... study each and every angle... what if Jupiter is

> aspecting a 0 causing planet.. or delay causing planet and ju is in

> grip of sa or in libra then?

>

> So all things must be taken into consideration, and that will vary

> chart to chart...

>

> What if the antra is that of delay causing planet then.. what if that

> antra is running or that of SD, then ......

>

> So all in all, Harjeet, study each chart and each antra from all

> angles before coming to a final conclusion, and take your time. Study

> it keenly.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " harjeet bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > thanks.. so a person would 2 zeroes generally would be purchasing a

> > house or getting a job in third sector of antra ?

> > regards

> > harjeet

> >

> >

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > Yes, all things must be studied, together to get full idea.

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > , " harjeet bakshi "

> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Resp Ashji,

> > > > the job article is very good for learning..... the breakdown

> analysis

> > > > is superb.. i mean sturn's aspect and pdf selection. one

> question sir,

> > > > say if there are zeroes in any chart, would that also push the

> sector

> > > > in job or purchase of house... or it deals only with marriage ?

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Manu Batura "

> > > > <manubatura@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > >

> > > > > Good observation.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash, I also noticed that there is a difference of two arc sec

> > from the

> > > > > KAS version 3.1.1 and that mentioned in your article.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ramesh, however, please also note that the value calculated in

> > the KAS

> > > > > program may deviate from actual KAY by a maximum of 2 arc

second.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > Manu

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do

> we get

> > > > > > even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing

> some

> > > > > > mistake anywhere ?

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > > My replies in CAPS.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

> > > " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write

> ups.It is

> > > > > > very

> > > > > > > > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been

> > requesting

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > from the very beginning.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But still we the list members have been

> > > > > > > > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet

> Jupiter.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI.

KRUSHNAJI HAS

> > > ASKED

> > > > > > > ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS

> > TO SEE

> > > > > > AND

> > > > > > > TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT

IS THE

> > > > > > PROCESS

> > > > > > > THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST

INVOLVES

> > > ME TO

> > > > > > > PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL

> > TEACH OR

> > > > > > GIVE

> > > > > > > LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY

BIT.

> > > SOME

> > > > > > OF

> > > > > > > THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE

> > > FOLLOWING IT

> > > > > > AND

> > > > > > > OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May

> > be you

> > > > > > might

> > > > > > > > have overlooked.

> > > > > > > > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and

> > > not in

> > > > > > > > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and

aspected by

> > > Ma in

> > > > > > > > rasi.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT

> > > OUT. I

> > > > > > > HAVE MADE THE CHANGES.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members

> > will

> > > > > > > > certainly get help from this analysis.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ASH : I HOPE SO.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as

22:40:19.

> > > > > > Perhaps

> > > > > > > > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time

> > > version

> > > > > > > > 3.1.1 was not in force.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING

> > 22:40:19.

> > > > > > ITS 2

> > > > > > > SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF

> > > DIFFERENCE

> > > > > > > BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and

> > not as

> > > > > > 02:45

> > > > > > > > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event

> > was

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > givem ?

> > > > > > > > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took

> > place in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second

> > sector.

> > > > > > > > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes

> in the

> > > > > > margin.

> > > > > > > > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have

> > > adjusted the

> > > > > > > > birth time to bring the event in its third sector.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU

> > CAN SEE

> > > > > > THE

> > > > > > > TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR.

NOW

> > > NATIVE

> > > > > > > IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT

(ANUJ)

> > > WHO

> > > > > > IS

> > > > > > > A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD

> MENTIONED IF

> > > > > > MEMORY

> > > > > > > SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY.

> > SO I

> > > > > > WENT

> > > > > > > ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK.

> > > YES, IN

> > > > > > > THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL

> > > MAKE A

> > > > > > BIG

> > > > > > > DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE

> > ACCEPT. SO

> > > > > > > 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE

> > OK.

> > > > > > > HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION.

> > > > > > > BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT

> > > THAT IS

> > > > > > > OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF

13 DAY

> > > RANGE

> > > > > > > WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE

> > CHOSEN

> > > > > > THAT.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE

EVENT

> > > I KNEW

> > > > > > > AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE

> > MUST

> > > > > > BE A

> > > > > > > SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN

> > ANY

> > > > > > CASE,

> > > > > > > I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER

YOUR

> > > > > > OBSERVATION.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the

> > natural

> > > > > > death

> > > > > > > > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it

helps

> > > > > > selecting

> > > > > > > > the MD lord ?

> > > > > > > > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death

> > > owing

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for

death

> > > > > > blindly,

> > > > > > > > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for

> accident we

> > > > > > check up

> > > > > > > > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and

> thereafter

> > > > > > > > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into

> > effect.

> > > > > > > > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not

> due to

> > > > > > > > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with

> > that of

> > > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > > house contrary to examining 6th house.

> > > > > > > > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak

> sthaan.Ra is

> > > > > > like Me

> > > > > > > > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me.

> > > > > > > > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka

> > sthaan

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house.

> But the

> > > > > > > > selection of MD lord is difficult here.

> > > > > > > > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this

> > with

> > > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS

> > CLEAR.

> > > > > > THE

> > > > > > > ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME

> > FRAME

> > > > > > GIVEN

> > > > > > > BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE

INVOLVED.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN

> > ALSO

> > > > > > > SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE

> > > SELECTED.

> > > > > > > VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE

> > > DEATH. SUN

> > > > > > > IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING

> > > DEATH AND

> > > > > > > THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE

SELECTED

> > > > > > VENUS...

> > > > > > > I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE

> > THING

> > > > > > > BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND

> > UPTO HERE

> > > > > > > EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST

> POWER

> > > > > > PLANET.

> > > > > > > IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT

> > > COME UP

> > > > > > > IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS

> > SYSTEM

> > > > > > VERY

> > > > > > > PRECICE.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE

> > > PICKED

> > > > > > UP

> > > > > > > SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU

RAMESH ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > CHEERS !!!

> > > > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Satish,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My answers in CAPS.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , SPK

> > > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nice articles, thanks.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the

> > > > > > > > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks

> > > > > > > > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST.

THIS IS A

> > > VERY

> > > > > > > > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH.

> > > IT IS

> > > > > > ALSO

> > > > > > > > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You

> > > > > > > > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS

> KARAKTWA.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND

> > AND 7TH

> > > > > > HOUSE

> > > > > > > > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND

> > HOUSE IS

> > > > > > KARAK.

> > > > > > > > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2

> > DIFFERENT

> > > > > > THINGS

> > > > > > > > > AND EVENTS.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF

> > THERE

> > > > > > IS AN

> > > > > > > > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND

> THAT

> > > > > > LEADS TO

> > > > > > > > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS

> > > WILL GET

> > > > > > > > CLEAR.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Satish

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > CHEERS !!!

> > > > > > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my

> > > > > > > > > > > website. Kindly take a look.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

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> > >

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