Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Dear Group, I have posted a couple of new articles on my website. Kindly take a look. http://www.ashtro.ca Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 very good explanation and excellent for learning thanks/regards harjeet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Group, > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my website. Kindly take a look. > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Dear Harjeet, Thanks you Harjeet for your kind words, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " harjeet bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > very good explanation and excellent for learning > thanks/regards > harjeet > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my website. Kindly take a > look. > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Dear Ash, Nice articles, thanks. One question on the article regarding death of the native. What are combinations/salient points one looks for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ? Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You mention 7th house, should one take that as house B. Thanks. Satish --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Group, > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my > website. Kindly take a look. > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > ______________________________\ ____ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Dear Satish, My answers in CAPS. , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Nice articles, thanks. ASH : THANKS SATISH > > One question on the article regarding death of the > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ? ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. IT IS ALSO VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC. > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B. ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA. ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH HOUSE ARE CALLED AS MARAKA. AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK. SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS. NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS AND EVENTS. FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE IS AN ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT LEADS TO DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART. YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS WILL GET CLEAR. > > Thanks. > > Satish CHEERS !!! ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Group, > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my > > website. Kindly take a look. > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > http://autos./green_center/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Dear Ash, Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is very commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been requesting you from the very beginning.But still we the list members have been waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter. After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May be you might have overlooked. 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and not in Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by Ma in rasi. Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members will certainly get help from this analysis. 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19. Perhaps it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time version 3.1.1 was not in force. 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and not as 02:45 AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event was not givem ? However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took place in the same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second sector. Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the margin. Since the event was known thereafter, you might have adjusted the birth time to bring the event in its third sector. 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the natural death or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps selecting the MD lord ? You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death owing to other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death blindly, sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we check up 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into effect. As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with that of 7th house contrary to examining 6th house. For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is like Me and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me. Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka sthaan of 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the selection of MD lord is difficult here. Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this with 8th house. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Satish, > > My answers in CAPS. > > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Nice articles, thanks. > > ASH : THANKS SATISH > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ? > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A VERY > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. IT IS ALSO > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC. > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B. > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA. > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH HOUSE > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA. > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK. > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS. > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS > AND EVENTS. > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE IS AN > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT LEADS TO > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART. > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS WILL GET CLEAR. > > > > > Thanks. > > > > Satish > > CHEERS !!! > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my > > > website. Kindly take a look. > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Dear Ramesh, My replies in CAPS. , " aarceemastro2002 " <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is very > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been requesting you > from the very beginning. ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. But still we the list members have been > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter. ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS ASKED ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS TO SEE AND TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE PROCESS THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES ME TO PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL TEACH OR GIVE LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT. SOME OF THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE FOLLOWING IT AND OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION. > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May be you might > have overlooked. > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and not in > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by Ma in > rasi. ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. I HAVE MADE THE CHANGES. > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members will > certainly get help from this analysis. ASH : I HOPE SO. > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19. Perhaps > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time version > 3.1.1 was not in force. ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING 22:40:19. ITS 2 SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED. > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and not as 02:45 > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event was not > givem ? > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took place in the > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second sector. > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the margin. > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have adjusted the > birth time to bring the event in its third sector. ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU CAN SEE THE TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW NATIVE IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ) WHO IS A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD MENTIONED IF MEMORY SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY. SO I WENT ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK. YES, IN THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE ACCEPT. SO 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE OK. HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION. BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT THAT IS OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY RANGE WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN THAT. SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT I KNEW AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION. IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE MUST BE A SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME. SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN ANY CASE, I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR OBSERVATION. > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the natural death > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps selecting > the MD lord ? > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death owing to > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death blindly, > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we check up > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into effect. > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with that of 7th > house contrary to examining 6th house. > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is like Me > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me. > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka sthaan of > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the > selection of MD lord is difficult here. > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this with 8th > house. ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS CLEAR. THE ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME FRAME GIVEN BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED. I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN ALSO SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE SELECTED. VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE DEATH. SUN IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING DEATH AND THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED VENUS... I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT. WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE THING BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME. HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND UPTO HERE EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ. THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST POWER PLANET. IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT COME UP IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA. AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS SYSTEM VERY PRECICE. I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE PICKED UP SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ? > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra CHEERS !!! ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > My answers in CAPS. > > > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Nice articles, thanks. > > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH > > > > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ? > > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A VERY > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. IT IS ALSO > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC. > > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B. > > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA. > > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH HOUSE > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA. > > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK. > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS. > > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS > > AND EVENTS. > > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE IS AN > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT LEADS TO > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART. > > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS WILL GET > CLEAR. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Satish > > > > CHEERS !!! > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my > > > > website. Kindly take a look. > > > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > ______________ > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Dear Ash, Greetings. I just looked at the site and I am really impressed by your analysis. Congrats for the correct prediction on all the cases. Thanks for being helpful on and off the list. Regards Bala Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Dear Bala, Thank you for your kind words. I am just guiding, then the end it is all your hard work and effort that is leading to your success. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , bala sosale <bsosale wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Greetings. > > I just looked at the site and I am really impressed by your analysis. Congrats for the > correct prediction on all the cases. > > Thanks for being helpful on and off the list. > > Regards > Bala > > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Dear Ash, When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do we get even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing some mistake anywhere ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > My replies in CAPS. > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is very > > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been requesting you > > from the very beginning. > > ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. > > But still we the list members have been > > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter. > > ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS ASKED > ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS TO SEE AND > TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE PROCESS > THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES ME TO > PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL TEACH OR GIVE > LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT. SOME OF > THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE FOLLOWING IT AND > OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION. > > > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May be you might > > have overlooked. > > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and not in > > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by Ma in > > rasi. > > ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. I > HAVE MADE THE CHANGES. > > > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members will > > certainly get help from this analysis. > > ASH : I HOPE SO. > > > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19. Perhaps > > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time version > > 3.1.1 was not in force. > > ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING 22:40:19. ITS 2 > SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE > BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED. > > > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and not as 02:45 > > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event was not > > givem ? > > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took place in the > > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second sector. > > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the margin. > > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have adjusted the > > birth time to bring the event in its third sector. > > ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU CAN SEE THE > TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW NATIVE > IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ) WHO IS > A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD MENTIONED IF MEMORY > SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY. SO I WENT > ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK. YES, IN > THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL MAKE A BIG > DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE ACCEPT. SO > 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE OK. > HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION. > BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT THAT IS > OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY RANGE > WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN THAT. > > SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT I KNEW > AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION. > > IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE MUST BE A > SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME. > > SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN ANY CASE, > I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR OBSERVATION. > > > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the natural death > > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps selecting > > the MD lord ? > > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death owing to > > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death blindly, > > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we check up > > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter > > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into effect. > > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to > > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with that of 7th > > house contrary to examining 6th house. > > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is like Me > > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me. > > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka sthaan of > > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the > > selection of MD lord is difficult here. > > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this with 8th > > house. > > ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS CLEAR. THE > ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME FRAME GIVEN > BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED. > > I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN ALSO > SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE SELECTED. > VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE DEATH. SUN > IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING DEATH AND > THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED VENUS... > I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT. > > WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE THING > BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME. > > HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND UPTO HERE > EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ. > > THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST POWER PLANET. > IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT COME UP > IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA. > > AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS SYSTEM VERY > PRECICE. > > I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE PICKED UP > SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ? > > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > CHEERS !!! > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > My answers in CAPS. > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > Nice articles, thanks. > > > > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH > > > > > > > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the > > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks > > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ? > > > > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A VERY > > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. IT IS ALSO > > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC. > > > > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You > > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B. > > > > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA. > > > > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH HOUSE > > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA. > > > > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK. > > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS. > > > > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS > > > AND EVENTS. > > > > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE IS AN > > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT LEADS TO > > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART. > > > > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS WILL GET > > CLEAR. > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > CHEERS !!! > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my > > > > > website. Kindly take a look. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > ______________ > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > > > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Dear Ramesh, Good observation. Ash, I also noticed that there is a difference of two arc sec from the KAS version 3.1.1 and that mentioned in your article. Ramesh, however, please also note that the value calculated in the KAS program may deviate from actual KAY by a maximum of 2 arc second. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " aarceemastro2002 " <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do we get > even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing some > mistake anywhere ? > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > My replies in CAPS. > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is > very > > > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been requesting > you > > > from the very beginning. > > > > ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. > > > > But still we the list members have been > > > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter. > > > > ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS ASKED > > ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS TO SEE > AND > > TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE > PROCESS > > THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES ME TO > > PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL TEACH OR > GIVE > > LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT. SOME > OF > > THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE FOLLOWING IT > AND > > OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION. > > > > > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May be you > might > > > have overlooked. > > > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and not in > > > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by Ma in > > > rasi. > > > > ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. I > > HAVE MADE THE CHANGES. > > > > > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members will > > > certainly get help from this analysis. > > > > ASH : I HOPE SO. > > > > > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19. > Perhaps > > > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time version > > > 3.1.1 was not in force. > > > > ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING 22:40:19. > ITS 2 > > SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE > > BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED. > > > > > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and not as > 02:45 > > > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event was > not > > > givem ? > > > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took place in > the > > > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second sector. > > > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the > margin. > > > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have adjusted the > > > birth time to bring the event in its third sector. > > > > ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU CAN SEE > THE > > TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW NATIVE > > IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ) WHO > IS > > A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD MENTIONED IF > MEMORY > > SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY. SO I > WENT > > ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK. YES, IN > > THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL MAKE A > BIG > > DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE ACCEPT. SO > > 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE OK. > > HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION. > > BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT THAT IS > > OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY RANGE > > WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN > THAT. > > > > SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT I KNEW > > AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION. > > > > IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE MUST > BE A > > SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME. > > > > SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN ANY > CASE, > > I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR > OBSERVATION. > > > > > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the natural > death > > > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps > selecting > > > the MD lord ? > > > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death owing > to > > > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death > blindly, > > > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we > check up > > > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter > > > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into effect. > > > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to > > > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with that of > 7th > > > house contrary to examining 6th house. > > > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is > like Me > > > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me. > > > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka sthaan > of > > > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the > > > selection of MD lord is difficult here. > > > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this with > 8th > > > house. > > > > ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS CLEAR. > THE > > ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME FRAME > GIVEN > > BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED. > > > > I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN ALSO > > SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE SELECTED. > > VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE DEATH. SUN > > IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING DEATH AND > > THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED > VENUS... > > I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT. > > > > WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE THING > > BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME. > > > > HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND UPTO HERE > > EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ. > > > > THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST POWER > PLANET. > > IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT COME UP > > IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA. > > > > AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS SYSTEM > VERY > > PRECICE. > > > > I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE PICKED > UP > > SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ? > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > CHEERS !!! > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > My answers in CAPS. > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > Nice articles, thanks. > > > > > > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the > > > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks > > > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ? > > > > > > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A VERY > > > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. IT IS > ALSO > > > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC. > > > > > > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You > > > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B. > > > > > > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA. > > > > > > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH > HOUSE > > > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA. > > > > > > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS > KARAK. > > > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS. > > > > > > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT > THINGS > > > > AND EVENTS. > > > > > > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE > IS AN > > > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT > LEADS TO > > > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART. > > > > > > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS WILL GET > > > CLEAR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > CHEERS !!! > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my > > > > > > website. Kindly take a look. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > > ______________ > > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green > Center. > > > > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Dear Manu, Thanks for notice. I am not talking about manual calculation.Manually it may be.Please understand my point. All the list members have downloaded same version of KAS. When we cast the chart with same version then there should not be any diff. even for a second in all the data. Thans and regards. Ramesh Mishra , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > Good observation. > > Ash, I also noticed that there is a difference of two arc sec from the > KAS version 3.1.1 and that mentioned in your article. > > Ramesh, however, please also note that the value calculated in the KAS > program may deviate from actual KAY by a maximum of 2 arc second. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do we get > > even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing some > > mistake anywhere ? > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > My replies in CAPS. > > > > > > --- In , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is > > very > > > > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been requesting > > you > > > > from the very beginning. > > > > > > ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. > > > > > > But still we the list members have been > > > > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter. > > > > > > ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS ASKED > > > ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS TO SEE > > AND > > > TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE > > PROCESS > > > THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES ME TO > > > PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL TEACH OR > > GIVE > > > LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT. SOME > > OF > > > THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE FOLLOWING IT > > AND > > > OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION. > > > > > > > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May be you > > might > > > > have overlooked. > > > > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and not in > > > > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by Ma in > > > > rasi. > > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. I > > > HAVE MADE THE CHANGES. > > > > > > > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members will > > > > certainly get help from this analysis. > > > > > > ASH : I HOPE SO. > > > > > > > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19. > > Perhaps > > > > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time version > > > > 3.1.1 was not in force. > > > > > > ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING 22:40:19. > > ITS 2 > > > SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE > > > BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED. > > > > > > > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and not as > > 02:45 > > > > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event was > > not > > > > givem ? > > > > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took place in > > the > > > > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second sector. > > > > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the > > margin. > > > > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have adjusted the > > > > birth time to bring the event in its third sector. > > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU CAN SEE > > THE > > > TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW NATIVE > > > IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ) WHO > > IS > > > A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD MENTIONED IF > > MEMORY > > > SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY. SO I > > WENT > > > ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK. YES, IN > > > THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL MAKE A > > BIG > > > DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE ACCEPT. SO > > > 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE OK. > > > HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION. > > > BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT THAT IS > > > OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY RANGE > > > WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN > > THAT. > > > > > > SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT I KNEW > > > AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION. > > > > > > IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE MUST > > BE A > > > SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME. > > > > > > SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN ANY > > CASE, > > > I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR > > OBSERVATION. > > > > > > > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the natural > > death > > > > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps > > selecting > > > > the MD lord ? > > > > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death owing > > to > > > > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death > > blindly, > > > > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we > > check up > > > > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter > > > > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into effect. > > > > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to > > > > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with that of > > 7th > > > > house contrary to examining 6th house. > > > > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is > > like Me > > > > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me. > > > > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka sthaan > > of > > > > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the > > > > selection of MD lord is difficult here. > > > > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this with > > 8th > > > > house. > > > > > > ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS CLEAR. > > THE > > > ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME FRAME > > GIVEN > > > BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED. > > > > > > I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN ALSO > > > SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE SELECTED. > > > VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE DEATH. SUN > > > IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING DEATH AND > > > THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED > > VENUS... > > > I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT. > > > > > > WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE THING > > > BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME. > > > > > > HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND UPTO HERE > > > EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ. > > > > > > THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST POWER > > PLANET. > > > IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT COME UP > > > IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA. > > > > > > AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS SYSTEM > > VERY > > > PRECICE. > > > > > > I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE PICKED > > UP > > > SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ? > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > CHEERS !!! > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > My answers in CAPS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice articles, thanks. > > > > > > > > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the > > > > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks > > > > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ? > > > > > > > > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A VERY > > > > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. IT IS > > ALSO > > > > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC. > > > > > > > > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You > > > > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B. > > > > > > > > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA. > > > > > > > > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH > > HOUSE > > > > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA. > > > > > > > > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS > > KARAK. > > > > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS. > > > > > > > > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT > > THINGS > > > > > AND EVENTS. > > > > > > > > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE > > IS AN > > > > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT > > LEADS TO > > > > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART. > > > > > > > > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS WILL GET > > > > CLEAR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > CHEERS !!! > > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my > > > > > > > website. Kindly take a look. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > > > ______________ > > > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > > > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green > > Center. > > > > > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Dear Manu, I shall send you my copy of program to check why is this error creeping in. Ramesh, my program is different from KAS3.1.1 as I have added many more things so something might be causing a slight error. In any case, I shall take this offline and look into it. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > Good observation. > > Ash, I also noticed that there is a difference of two arc sec from the > KAS version 3.1.1 and that mentioned in your article. > > Ramesh, however, please also note that the value calculated in the KAS > program may deviate from actual KAY by a maximum of 2 arc second. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do we get > > even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing some > > mistake anywhere ? > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > My replies in CAPS. > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is > > very > > > > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been requesting > > you > > > > from the very beginning. > > > > > > ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. > > > > > > But still we the list members have been > > > > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter. > > > > > > ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS ASKED > > > ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS TO SEE > > AND > > > TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE > > PROCESS > > > THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES ME TO > > > PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL TEACH OR > > GIVE > > > LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT. SOME > > OF > > > THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE FOLLOWING IT > > AND > > > OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION. > > > > > > > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May be you > > might > > > > have overlooked. > > > > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and not in > > > > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by Ma in > > > > rasi. > > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. I > > > HAVE MADE THE CHANGES. > > > > > > > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members will > > > > certainly get help from this analysis. > > > > > > ASH : I HOPE SO. > > > > > > > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19. > > Perhaps > > > > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time version > > > > 3.1.1 was not in force. > > > > > > ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING 22:40:19. > > ITS 2 > > > SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE > > > BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED. > > > > > > > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and not as > > 02:45 > > > > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event was > > not > > > > givem ? > > > > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took place in > > the > > > > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second sector. > > > > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the > > margin. > > > > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have adjusted the > > > > birth time to bring the event in its third sector. > > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU CAN SEE > > THE > > > TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW NATIVE > > > IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ) WHO > > IS > > > A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD MENTIONED IF > > MEMORY > > > SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY. SO I > > WENT > > > ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK. YES, IN > > > THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL MAKE A > > BIG > > > DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE ACCEPT. SO > > > 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE OK. > > > HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION. > > > BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT THAT IS > > > OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY RANGE > > > WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN > > THAT. > > > > > > SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT I KNEW > > > AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION. > > > > > > IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE MUST > > BE A > > > SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME. > > > > > > SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN ANY > > CASE, > > > I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR > > OBSERVATION. > > > > > > > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the natural > > death > > > > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps > > selecting > > > > the MD lord ? > > > > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death owing > > to > > > > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death > > blindly, > > > > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we > > check up > > > > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter > > > > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into effect. > > > > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to > > > > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with that of > > 7th > > > > house contrary to examining 6th house. > > > > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is > > like Me > > > > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me. > > > > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka sthaan > > of > > > > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the > > > > selection of MD lord is difficult here. > > > > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this with > > 8th > > > > house. > > > > > > ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS CLEAR. > > THE > > > ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME FRAME > > GIVEN > > > BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED. > > > > > > I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN ALSO > > > SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE SELECTED. > > > VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE DEATH. SUN > > > IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING DEATH AND > > > THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED > > VENUS... > > > I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT. > > > > > > WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE THING > > > BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME. > > > > > > HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND UPTO HERE > > > EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ. > > > > > > THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST POWER > > PLANET. > > > IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT COME UP > > > IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA. > > > > > > AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS SYSTEM > > VERY > > > PRECICE. > > > > > > I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE PICKED > > UP > > > SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ? > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > CHEERS !!! > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > My answers in CAPS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice articles, thanks. > > > > > > > > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the > > > > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks > > > > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ? > > > > > > > > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A VERY > > > > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. IT IS > > ALSO > > > > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC. > > > > > > > > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You > > > > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B. > > > > > > > > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA. > > > > > > > > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH > > HOUSE > > > > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA. > > > > > > > > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS > > KARAK. > > > > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS. > > > > > > > > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT > > THINGS > > > > > AND EVENTS. > > > > > > > > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE > > IS AN > > > > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT > > LEADS TO > > > > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART. > > > > > > > > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS WILL GET > > > > CLEAR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > CHEERS !!! > > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my > > > > > > > website. Kindly take a look. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > > > ______________ > > > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > > > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green > > Center. > > > > > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Resp Ashji, the job article is very good for learning..... the breakdown analysis is superb.. i mean sturn's aspect and pdf selection. one question sir, say if there are zeroes in any chart, would that also push the sector in job or purchase of house... or it deals only with marriage ? thanks/regards harjeet , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > Good observation. > > Ash, I also noticed that there is a difference of two arc sec from the > KAS version 3.1.1 and that mentioned in your article. > > Ramesh, however, please also note that the value calculated in the KAS > program may deviate from actual KAY by a maximum of 2 arc second. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do we get > > even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing some > > mistake anywhere ? > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > My replies in CAPS. > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is > > very > > > > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been requesting > > you > > > > from the very beginning. > > > > > > ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. > > > > > > But still we the list members have been > > > > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter. > > > > > > ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS ASKED > > > ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS TO SEE > > AND > > > TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE > > PROCESS > > > THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES ME TO > > > PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL TEACH OR > > GIVE > > > LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT. SOME > > OF > > > THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE FOLLOWING IT > > AND > > > OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION. > > > > > > > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May be you > > might > > > > have overlooked. > > > > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and not in > > > > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by Ma in > > > > rasi. > > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. I > > > HAVE MADE THE CHANGES. > > > > > > > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members will > > > > certainly get help from this analysis. > > > > > > ASH : I HOPE SO. > > > > > > > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19. > > Perhaps > > > > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time version > > > > 3.1.1 was not in force. > > > > > > ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING 22:40:19. > > ITS 2 > > > SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE > > > BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED. > > > > > > > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and not as > > 02:45 > > > > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event was > > not > > > > givem ? > > > > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took place in > > the > > > > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second sector. > > > > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the > > margin. > > > > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have adjusted the > > > > birth time to bring the event in its third sector. > > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU CAN SEE > > THE > > > TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW NATIVE > > > IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ) WHO > > IS > > > A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD MENTIONED IF > > MEMORY > > > SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY. SO I > > WENT > > > ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK. YES, IN > > > THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL MAKE A > > BIG > > > DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE ACCEPT. SO > > > 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE OK. > > > HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION. > > > BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT THAT IS > > > OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY RANGE > > > WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN > > THAT. > > > > > > SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT I KNEW > > > AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION. > > > > > > IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE MUST > > BE A > > > SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME. > > > > > > SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN ANY > > CASE, > > > I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR > > OBSERVATION. > > > > > > > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the natural > > death > > > > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps > > selecting > > > > the MD lord ? > > > > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death owing > > to > > > > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death > > blindly, > > > > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we > > check up > > > > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter > > > > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into effect. > > > > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to > > > > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with that of > > 7th > > > > house contrary to examining 6th house. > > > > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is > > like Me > > > > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me. > > > > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka sthaan > > of > > > > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the > > > > selection of MD lord is difficult here. > > > > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this with > > 8th > > > > house. > > > > > > ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS CLEAR. > > THE > > > ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME FRAME > > GIVEN > > > BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED. > > > > > > I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN ALSO > > > SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE SELECTED. > > > VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE DEATH. SUN > > > IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING DEATH AND > > > THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED > > VENUS... > > > I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT. > > > > > > WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE THING > > > BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME. > > > > > > HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND UPTO HERE > > > EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ. > > > > > > THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST POWER > > PLANET. > > > IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT COME UP > > > IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA. > > > > > > AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS SYSTEM > > VERY > > > PRECICE. > > > > > > I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE PICKED > > UP > > > SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ? > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > CHEERS !!! > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > My answers in CAPS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice articles, thanks. > > > > > > > > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the > > > > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks > > > > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ? > > > > > > > > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A VERY > > > > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. IT IS > > ALSO > > > > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC. > > > > > > > > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You > > > > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B. > > > > > > > > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA. > > > > > > > > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH > > HOUSE > > > > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA. > > > > > > > > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS > > KARAK. > > > > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS. > > > > > > > > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT > > THINGS > > > > > AND EVENTS. > > > > > > > > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE > > IS AN > > > > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT > > LEADS TO > > > > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART. > > > > > > > > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS WILL GET > > > > CLEAR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > CHEERS !!! > > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my > > > > > > > website. Kindly take a look. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > > > ______________ > > > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > > > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green > > Center. > > > > > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Dear Harjeet, Yes, all things must be studied, together to get full idea. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " harjeet bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Resp Ashji, > the job article is very good for learning..... the breakdown analysis > is superb.. i mean sturn's aspect and pdf selection. one question sir, > say if there are zeroes in any chart, would that also push the sector > in job or purchase of house... or it deals only with marriage ? > thanks/regards > harjeet > > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Good observation. > > > > Ash, I also noticed that there is a difference of two arc sec from the > > KAS version 3.1.1 and that mentioned in your article. > > > > Ramesh, however, please also note that the value calculated in the KAS > > program may deviate from actual KAY by a maximum of 2 arc second. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do we get > > > even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing some > > > mistake anywhere ? > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > My replies in CAPS. > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is > > > very > > > > > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been requesting > > > you > > > > > from the very beginning. > > > > > > > > ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. > > > > > > > > But still we the list members have been > > > > > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter. > > > > > > > > ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS ASKED > > > > ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS TO SEE > > > AND > > > > TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE > > > PROCESS > > > > THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES ME TO > > > > PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL TEACH OR > > > GIVE > > > > LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT. SOME > > > OF > > > > THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE FOLLOWING IT > > > AND > > > > OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION. > > > > > > > > > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May be you > > > might > > > > > have overlooked. > > > > > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and not in > > > > > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by Ma in > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. I > > > > HAVE MADE THE CHANGES. > > > > > > > > > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members will > > > > > certainly get help from this analysis. > > > > > > > > ASH : I HOPE SO. > > > > > > > > > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19. > > > Perhaps > > > > > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time version > > > > > 3.1.1 was not in force. > > > > > > > > ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING 22:40:19. > > > ITS 2 > > > > SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE > > > > BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED. > > > > > > > > > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and not as > > > 02:45 > > > > > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event was > > > not > > > > > givem ? > > > > > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took place in > > > the > > > > > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second sector. > > > > > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the > > > margin. > > > > > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have adjusted the > > > > > birth time to bring the event in its third sector. > > > > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU CAN SEE > > > THE > > > > TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW NATIVE > > > > IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ) WHO > > > IS > > > > A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD MENTIONED IF > > > MEMORY > > > > SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY. SO I > > > WENT > > > > ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK. YES, IN > > > > THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL MAKE A > > > BIG > > > > DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE ACCEPT. SO > > > > 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE OK. > > > > HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION. > > > > BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT THAT IS > > > > OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY RANGE > > > > WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN > > > THAT. > > > > > > > > SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT I KNEW > > > > AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION. > > > > > > > > IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE MUST > > > BE A > > > > SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME. > > > > > > > > SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN ANY > > > CASE, > > > > I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR > > > OBSERVATION. > > > > > > > > > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the natural > > > death > > > > > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps > > > selecting > > > > > the MD lord ? > > > > > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death owing > > > to > > > > > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death > > > blindly, > > > > > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we > > > check up > > > > > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter > > > > > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into effect. > > > > > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to > > > > > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with that of > > > 7th > > > > > house contrary to examining 6th house. > > > > > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is > > > like Me > > > > > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me. > > > > > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka sthaan > > > of > > > > > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the > > > > > selection of MD lord is difficult here. > > > > > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this with > > > 8th > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS CLEAR. > > > THE > > > > ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME FRAME > > > GIVEN > > > > BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED. > > > > > > > > I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN ALSO > > > > SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE SELECTED. > > > > VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE DEATH. SUN > > > > IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING DEATH AND > > > > THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED > > > VENUS... > > > > I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT. > > > > > > > > WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE THING > > > > BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME. > > > > > > > > HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND UPTO HERE > > > > EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ. > > > > > > > > THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST POWER > > > PLANET. > > > > IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT COME UP > > > > IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA. > > > > > > > > AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS SYSTEM > > > VERY > > > > PRECICE. > > > > > > > > I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE PICKED > > > UP > > > > SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ? > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > CHEERS !!! > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > My answers in CAPS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice articles, thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the > > > > > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks > > > > > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ? > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A VERY > > > > > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. IT IS > > > ALSO > > > > > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You > > > > > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B. > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA. > > > > > > > > > > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH > > > HOUSE > > > > > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA. > > > > > > > > > > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS > > > KARAK. > > > > > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT > > > THINGS > > > > > > AND EVENTS. > > > > > > > > > > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE > > > IS AN > > > > > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT > > > LEADS TO > > > > > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART. > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS WILL GET > > > > > CLEAR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > CHEERS !!! > > > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my > > > > > > > > website. Kindly take a look. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > > > > ______________ > > > > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > > > > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green > > > Center. > > > > > > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 thanks.. so a person would 2 zeroes generally would be purchasing a house or getting a job in third sector of antra ? regards harjeet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > Yes, all things must be studied, together to get full idea. > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Resp Ashji, > > the job article is very good for learning..... the breakdown analysis > > is superb.. i mean sturn's aspect and pdf selection. one question sir, > > say if there are zeroes in any chart, would that also push the sector > > in job or purchase of house... or it deals only with marriage ? > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > Good observation. > > > > > > Ash, I also noticed that there is a difference of two arc sec from the > > > KAS version 3.1.1 and that mentioned in your article. > > > > > > Ramesh, however, please also note that the value calculated in the KAS > > > program may deviate from actual KAY by a maximum of 2 arc second. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do we get > > > > even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing some > > > > mistake anywhere ? > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > My replies in CAPS. > > > > > > > > > > , > " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is > > > > very > > > > > > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been requesting > > > > you > > > > > > from the very beginning. > > > > > > > > > > ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. > > > > > > > > > > But still we the list members have been > > > > > > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS > ASKED > > > > > ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS TO SEE > > > > AND > > > > > TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE > > > > PROCESS > > > > > THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES > ME TO > > > > > PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL TEACH OR > > > > GIVE > > > > > LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT. > SOME > > > > OF > > > > > THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE > FOLLOWING IT > > > > AND > > > > > OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION. > > > > > > > > > > > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May be you > > > > might > > > > > > have overlooked. > > > > > > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and > not in > > > > > > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by > Ma in > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT > OUT. I > > > > > HAVE MADE THE CHANGES. > > > > > > > > > > > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members will > > > > > > certainly get help from this analysis. > > > > > > > > > > ASH : I HOPE SO. > > > > > > > > > > > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19. > > > > Perhaps > > > > > > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time > version > > > > > > 3.1.1 was not in force. > > > > > > > > > > ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING 22:40:19. > > > > ITS 2 > > > > > SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF > DIFFERENCE > > > > > BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED. > > > > > > > > > > > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and not as > > > > 02:45 > > > > > > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event was > > > > not > > > > > > givem ? > > > > > > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took place in > > > > the > > > > > > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second sector. > > > > > > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the > > > > margin. > > > > > > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have > adjusted the > > > > > > birth time to bring the event in its third sector. > > > > > > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU CAN SEE > > > > THE > > > > > TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW > NATIVE > > > > > IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ) > WHO > > > > IS > > > > > A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD MENTIONED IF > > > > MEMORY > > > > > SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY. SO I > > > > WENT > > > > > ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK. > YES, IN > > > > > THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL > MAKE A > > > > BIG > > > > > DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE ACCEPT. SO > > > > > 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE OK. > > > > > HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION. > > > > > BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT > THAT IS > > > > > OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY > RANGE > > > > > WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN > > > > THAT. > > > > > > > > > > SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT > I KNEW > > > > > AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION. > > > > > > > > > > IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE MUST > > > > BE A > > > > > SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME. > > > > > > > > > > SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN ANY > > > > CASE, > > > > > I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR > > > > OBSERVATION. > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the natural > > > > death > > > > > > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps > > > > selecting > > > > > > the MD lord ? > > > > > > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death > owing > > > > to > > > > > > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death > > > > blindly, > > > > > > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we > > > > check up > > > > > > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter > > > > > > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into effect. > > > > > > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to > > > > > > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with that of > > > > 7th > > > > > > house contrary to examining 6th house. > > > > > > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is > > > > like Me > > > > > > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me. > > > > > > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka sthaan > > > > of > > > > > > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the > > > > > > selection of MD lord is difficult here. > > > > > > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this with > > > > 8th > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS CLEAR. > > > > THE > > > > > ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME FRAME > > > > GIVEN > > > > > BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED. > > > > > > > > > > I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN ALSO > > > > > SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE > SELECTED. > > > > > VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE > DEATH. SUN > > > > > IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING > DEATH AND > > > > > THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED > > > > VENUS... > > > > > I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT. > > > > > > > > > > WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE THING > > > > > BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME. > > > > > > > > > > HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND UPTO HERE > > > > > EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ. > > > > > > > > > > THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST POWER > > > > PLANET. > > > > > IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT > COME UP > > > > > IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA. > > > > > > > > > > AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS SYSTEM > > > > VERY > > > > > PRECICE. > > > > > > > > > > I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE > PICKED > > > > UP > > > > > SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ? > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > CHEERS !!! > > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My answers in CAPS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice articles, thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the > > > > > > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks > > > > > > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A > VERY > > > > > > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. > IT IS > > > > ALSO > > > > > > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You > > > > > > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND AND 7TH > > > > HOUSE > > > > > > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND HOUSE IS > > > > KARAK. > > > > > > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 DIFFERENT > > > > THINGS > > > > > > > AND EVENTS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF THERE > > > > IS AN > > > > > > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT > > > > LEADS TO > > > > > > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS > WILL GET > > > > > > CLEAR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CHEERS !!! > > > > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my > > > > > > > > > website. Kindly take a look. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > > > > > ______________ > > > > > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > > > > > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green > > > > Center. > > > > > > > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Dear Harjeet, Hmm.. not so fast... study each and every angle... what if Jupiter is aspecting a 0 causing planet.. or delay causing planet and ju is in grip of sa or in libra then? So all things must be taken into consideration, and that will vary chart to chart... What if the antra is that of delay causing planet then.. what if that antra is running or that of SD, then ...... So all in all, Harjeet, study each chart and each antra from all angles before coming to a final conclusion, and take your time. Study it keenly. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " harjeet bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > thanks.. so a person would 2 zeroes generally would be purchasing a > house or getting a job in third sector of antra ? > regards > harjeet > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > Yes, all things must be studied, together to get full idea. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , " harjeet bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Resp Ashji, > > > the job article is very good for learning..... the breakdown analysis > > > is superb.. i mean sturn's aspect and pdf selection. one question sir, > > > say if there are zeroes in any chart, would that also push the sector > > > in job or purchase of house... or it deals only with marriage ? > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > Good observation. > > > > > > > > Ash, I also noticed that there is a difference of two arc sec > from the > > > > KAS version 3.1.1 and that mentioned in your article. > > > > > > > > Ramesh, however, please also note that the value calculated in > the KAS > > > > program may deviate from actual KAY by a maximum of 2 arc second. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do we get > > > > > even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing some > > > > > mistake anywhere ? > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > My replies in CAPS. > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write ups.It is > > > > > very > > > > > > > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been > requesting > > > > > you > > > > > > > from the very beginning. > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. > > > > > > > > > > > > But still we the list members have been > > > > > > > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS > > ASKED > > > > > > ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS > TO SEE > > > > > AND > > > > > > TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE > > > > > PROCESS > > > > > > THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES > > ME TO > > > > > > PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL > TEACH OR > > > > > GIVE > > > > > > LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT. > > SOME > > > > > OF > > > > > > THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE > > FOLLOWING IT > > > > > AND > > > > > > OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION. > > > > > > > > > > > > > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May > be you > > > > > might > > > > > > > have overlooked. > > > > > > > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and > > not in > > > > > > > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by > > Ma in > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT > > OUT. I > > > > > > HAVE MADE THE CHANGES. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members > will > > > > > > > certainly get help from this analysis. > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : I HOPE SO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19. > > > > > Perhaps > > > > > > > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time > > version > > > > > > > 3.1.1 was not in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING > 22:40:19. > > > > > ITS 2 > > > > > > SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF > > DIFFERENCE > > > > > > BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and > not as > > > > > 02:45 > > > > > > > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event > was > > > > > not > > > > > > > givem ? > > > > > > > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took > place in > > > > > the > > > > > > > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second > sector. > > > > > > > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes in the > > > > > margin. > > > > > > > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have > > adjusted the > > > > > > > birth time to bring the event in its third sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU > CAN SEE > > > > > THE > > > > > > TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW > > NATIVE > > > > > > IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ) > > WHO > > > > > IS > > > > > > A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD MENTIONED IF > > > > > MEMORY > > > > > > SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY. > SO I > > > > > WENT > > > > > > ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK. > > YES, IN > > > > > > THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL > > MAKE A > > > > > BIG > > > > > > DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE > ACCEPT. SO > > > > > > 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE > OK. > > > > > > HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION. > > > > > > BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT > > THAT IS > > > > > > OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY > > RANGE > > > > > > WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE > CHOSEN > > > > > THAT. > > > > > > > > > > > > SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT > > I KNEW > > > > > > AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION. > > > > > > > > > > > > IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE > MUST > > > > > BE A > > > > > > SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME. > > > > > > > > > > > > SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN > ANY > > > > > CASE, > > > > > > I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR > > > > > OBSERVATION. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the > natural > > > > > death > > > > > > > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps > > > > > selecting > > > > > > > the MD lord ? > > > > > > > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death > > owing > > > > > to > > > > > > > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death > > > > > blindly, > > > > > > > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for accident we > > > > > check up > > > > > > > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and thereafter > > > > > > > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into > effect. > > > > > > > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not due to > > > > > > > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with > that of > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > house contrary to examining 6th house. > > > > > > > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak sthaan.Ra is > > > > > like Me > > > > > > > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me. > > > > > > > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka > sthaan > > > > > of > > > > > > > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. But the > > > > > > > selection of MD lord is difficult here. > > > > > > > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this > with > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS > CLEAR. > > > > > THE > > > > > > ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME > FRAME > > > > > GIVEN > > > > > > BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED. > > > > > > > > > > > > I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN > ALSO > > > > > > SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE > > SELECTED. > > > > > > VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE > > DEATH. SUN > > > > > > IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING > > DEATH AND > > > > > > THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED > > > > > VENUS... > > > > > > I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT. > > > > > > > > > > > > WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE > THING > > > > > > BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME. > > > > > > > > > > > > HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND > UPTO HERE > > > > > > EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ. > > > > > > > > > > > > THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST POWER > > > > > PLANET. > > > > > > IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT > > COME UP > > > > > > IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA. > > > > > > > > > > > > AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS > SYSTEM > > > > > VERY > > > > > > PRECICE. > > > > > > > > > > > > I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE > > PICKED > > > > > UP > > > > > > SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > CHEERS !!! > > > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My answers in CAPS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice articles, thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the > > > > > > > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks > > > > > > > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A > > VERY > > > > > > > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. > > IT IS > > > > > ALSO > > > > > > > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You > > > > > > > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS KARAKTWA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND > AND 7TH > > > > > HOUSE > > > > > > > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND > HOUSE IS > > > > > KARAK. > > > > > > > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 > DIFFERENT > > > > > THINGS > > > > > > > > AND EVENTS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF > THERE > > > > > IS AN > > > > > > > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND THAT > > > > > LEADS TO > > > > > > > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS > > WILL GET > > > > > > > CLEAR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CHEERS !!! > > > > > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my > > > > > > > > > > website. Kindly take a look. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > > > > > > ______________ > > > > > > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > > > > > > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green > > > > > Center. > > > > > > > > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Resp Ashji, thanks very much. regards harjeet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > Hmm.. not so fast... study each and every angle... what if Jupiter is > aspecting a 0 causing planet.. or delay causing planet and ju is in > grip of sa or in libra then? > > So all things must be taken into consideration, and that will vary > chart to chart... > > What if the antra is that of delay causing planet then.. what if that > antra is running or that of SD, then ...... > > So all in all, Harjeet, study each chart and each antra from all > angles before coming to a final conclusion, and take your time. Study > it keenly. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > thanks.. so a person would 2 zeroes generally would be purchasing a > > house or getting a job in third sector of antra ? > > regards > > harjeet > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > Yes, all things must be studied, together to get full idea. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , " harjeet bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Resp Ashji, > > > > the job article is very good for learning..... the breakdown > analysis > > > > is superb.. i mean sturn's aspect and pdf selection. one > question sir, > > > > say if there are zeroes in any chart, would that also push the > sector > > > > in job or purchase of house... or it deals only with marriage ? > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > Good observation. > > > > > > > > > > Ash, I also noticed that there is a difference of two arc sec > > from the > > > > > KAS version 3.1.1 and that mentioned in your article. > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh, however, please also note that the value calculated in > > the KAS > > > > > program may deviate from actual KAY by a maximum of 2 arc second. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > When we have same KAS program and same versiom,then why do > we get > > > > > > even a diff.of 2 seconds in KAY.It should not be.Am I doing > some > > > > > > mistake anywhere ? > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > My replies in CAPS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > Congratulations and many many thanks for your write > ups.It is > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > commendable and appreciable.This is what I had been > > requesting > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > from the very beginning. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : THANK YOU RAMESH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But still we the list members have been > > > > > > > > waiting to see the articles in respect of the planet > Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : NO, THAT LESSON WILL COME FROM KRUSHNAJI. KRUSHNAJI HAS > > > ASKED > > > > > > > ME TO FIRST PREPARE MYSELF BY SOLVING MORE AND MORE CHARTS > > TO SEE > > > > > > AND > > > > > > > TO STUDY GURU AND DELAY CAUSED BY IT SLOWLY. SO, THAT IS THE > > > > > > PROCESS > > > > > > > THAT I AM FOLLOWING AS PER HIS TEACHING, WHICH FIRST INVOLVES > > > ME TO > > > > > > > PRACTICE FIRST. WHEN HE FEELS THAT I AM READY, HE WILL > > TEACH OR > > > > > > GIVE > > > > > > > LESSON. TILL THEN I MUST FOLLOW HIS TEACHING AND DO MY BIT. > > > SOME > > > > > > OF > > > > > > > THE GUIDE LINES ARE ALREADY GIVEN AND YOU AND ALL ARE > > > FOLLOWING IT > > > > > > AND > > > > > > > OBSERVING IT. SO THE CLASS IN IN PROPER DIRECTION. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After reading your both the articles, I found a typo.May > > be you > > > > > > might > > > > > > > > have overlooked. > > > > > > > > 1.In the marriage chart, Mo is in the Moola Nak. of Ke and > > > not in > > > > > > > > Mrigshira.However Mo conjoins Ma in navamsa and aspected by > > > Ma in > > > > > > > > rasi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT WAS AN TYPO, AND THAN YOU FOR POINTING THAT > > > OUT. I > > > > > > > HAVE MADE THE CHANGES. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Overall detailed explanation is marvellous and the members > > will > > > > > > > > certainly get help from this analysis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : I HOPE SO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.In death chart I got KAY as 22:40:21 and not as 22:40:19. > > > > > > Perhaps > > > > > > > > it may be due to different KAS version. I think that time > > > version > > > > > > > > 3.1.1 was not in force. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : I RE-CASTED THE CHART IN MY WS AND I AM GETTING > > 22:40:19. > > > > > > ITS 2 > > > > > > > SECONDS DIFFERENCE SO IT SHOULD NOT MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF > > > DIFFERENCE > > > > > > > BUT THIS IS DULY NOTED. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.The time of birth was given by author as 02:38 AM and > > not as > > > > > > 02:45 > > > > > > > > AM. Why did you rectify the birth time once the past event > > was > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > givem ? > > > > > > > > However taking birth time as 02:38 Am the eveent took > > place in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > same MD and same antara with the same sector i.e. second > > sector. > > > > > > > > Of course with 2:45 AM the time of second sector comes > in the > > > > > > margin. > > > > > > > > Since the event was known thereafter, you might have > > > adjusted the > > > > > > > > birth time to bring the event in its third sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WHEN I SOLVED THE PUZZLE YOU > > CAN SEE > > > > > > THE > > > > > > > TIME DIFFERENCE. THE EVENT SHOULD HAPPEN IN 3RD SECTOR. NOW > > > NATIVE > > > > > > > IS BORN IN VENUS MD. HERE THERE WERE 2 THINGS. BHARAT (ANUJ) > > > WHO > > > > > > IS > > > > > > > A VERY GOOD ASTROLOGER GAVE THIS CHART AND HE HAD > MENTIONED IF > > > > > > MEMORY > > > > > > > SERVE ME WELL THAT THIS TIME WAS RECORDED QUITE ACCURATELY. > > SO I > > > > > > WENT > > > > > > > ON THAT ASSUMPTION THAT THE TIME WILL BE IN THE BALL PARK. > > > YES, IN > > > > > > > THIS CASE PARTICULARLY A VERY SMALL DIFFERENCE IN TIME WILL > > > MAKE A > > > > > > BIG > > > > > > > DIFFERENCE. NOW, 13 DAYS DIFFERENCE IS THERE WHICH WE > > ACCEPT. SO > > > > > > > 29TH SEPT + 13 = 12TH OCT START OF 2ND SECTOR SHOULD ALSO BE > > OK. > > > > > > > HOWEVER, I RECTIFIED THE TIME AS IN A SOLUTION. > > > > > > > BHARAT HAS POINTED OUT THAT I WAS A BIT OFF IN MY TIMING BUT > > > THAT IS > > > > > > > OK, IF THE TIME GIVEN WOULD BE EVEN A BIT MORE, THEN IF 13 DAY > > > RANGE > > > > > > > WOULD FALL, THE SUN'S PDF WOULD BE EXACT AND I WOULD HAVE > > CHOSEN > > > > > > THAT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SO ALL IN ALL, I HAVE RECTIFIED THE TIMING BASED ON THE EVENT > > > I KNEW > > > > > > > AFTER AND AS A SOLUTION. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IF U DO NOTICE KEENLY, SUNS PDF IS FALLING IS EXACT SO THERE > > MUST > > > > > > BE A > > > > > > > SLIGHT CHANGE IN TIME. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SO, WHEN I WAS GIVING THE SOLUTION I RECTIFIED THE TIME. IN > > ANY > > > > > > CASE, > > > > > > > I HAVE MODIFIED THE DOCUMENT TO REFLECT THE SAME AS PER YOUR > > > > > > OBSERVATION. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Please let us know that how did you discriminate the > > natural > > > > > > death > > > > > > > > or death due to some illness or accident ? Because it helps > > > > > > selecting > > > > > > > > the MD lord ? > > > > > > > > You say karaka of 8th house gives natural death. But death > > > owing > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > other than natural we have to analyse the reason for death > > > > > > blindly, > > > > > > > > sometimes the event does not take place. Say for > accident we > > > > > > check up > > > > > > > > 7th house or for illness we check up 6th house and > thereafter > > > > > > > > commuting this with that of 8th house, may not come into > > effect. > > > > > > > > As per this chart the death was due to illness and not > due to > > > > > > > > accident. But you compared the event of 8th house with > > that of > > > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > house contrary to examining 6th house. > > > > > > > > For 6th house the karak is Me and Ra is in karak > sthaan.Ra is > > > > > > like Me > > > > > > > > and Su. You have mentioned Su is SD to Me. > > > > > > > > Me the 6th house karak is strong in 3rd house the karaka > > sthaan > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > 8th house.Both the planet Ma and Me are in 3rd house. > But the > > > > > > > > selection of MD lord is difficult here. > > > > > > > > Hope you will help us selecting the MD lord combining this > > with > > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : 7TH HOUSE IS ACCIDENT, 8TH HOUSE IS DEATH. THIS IS > > CLEAR. > > > > > > THE > > > > > > > ILLNESS WAS CAUSED DUE TO A MOSQUITO BITE. NOW.. THE TIME > > FRAME > > > > > > GIVEN > > > > > > > BY BHARAT WAS FROM 1990 TO 2000 SO IN THAT 2 MD WERE INVOLVED. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I THINK IF YOU USE THE BASICS TAUGHT UPTO NOW, I THINK U CAN > > ALSO > > > > > > > SELECT THE PROPER ANTRA. ONLY MD IN THIS CASE WAS TO BE > > > SELECTED. > > > > > > > VENUS HAS NO RELATION TO 3RD HOUSE, SO IT WILL NOT CAUSE > > > DEATH. SUN > > > > > > > IS LINKED TO VENUS AND MERCURY SO ITS MORE PRONE TO GIVING > > > DEATH AND > > > > > > > THAT MIGHT BE AS A RESULT DUE TO ACCIDENT SO I HAVE SELECTED > > > > > > VENUS... > > > > > > > I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WHAT U ARE ASKING IS FOR SELECTION OF PROPER MD DOING WHOLE > > THING > > > > > > > BLINDLY, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR PROPER TIME. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HERE I HAVE ONLY USED THE BASICS TO SOLVE THIS CHART AND > > UPTO HERE > > > > > > > EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT. SO I TOOK PART IN THE QUIZ. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THE MAIN THING IS THAT DEATH HAPPEND IN ANTRA OF HIGHEST > POWER > > > > > > PLANET. > > > > > > > IF U SOLVE THIS CHART USING ANY OTHER AYANMSA, IT MIGHT NOT > > > COME UP > > > > > > > IN SATURN ANTAR DASHA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AS PER KAS, THE POINTS CANNOT BE MANIPULATED, MAKING THIS > > SYSTEM > > > > > > VERY > > > > > > > PRECICE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I THINK, IF U ALSO HAD A CHOICE OF 2 MAHADASHA U WOULD HAVE > > > PICKED > > > > > > UP > > > > > > > SUN CONSIDERING UPTO NOW WHAT IS TAUGHT, WOULDN'T YOU RAMESH ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CHEERS !!! > > > > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My answers in CAPS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice articles, thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH : THANKS SATISH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One question on the article regarding death of the > > > > > > > > > > native. What are combinations/salient points one looks > > > > > > > > > > for in the chart for accidental or unnatural death ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH: DEATH TOPIC HAS NOT BEEN COVERED ON LIST. THIS IS A > > > VERY > > > > > > > > > SPECIAL TOPIC AND WHEN KRUSHANJI SEES FIT HE WILL TEACH. > > > IT IS > > > > > > ALSO > > > > > > > > > VERY SENSITIVE TOPIC. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like we have combinations for venus for marraige. You > > > > > > > > > > mention 7th house, should one take that as house B. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASH: FOR DEATH, HOUSE B IS 8TH HOUSE. MD SHOWS > KARAKTWA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ACTUALLY IF U STUDY, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY IN VA, 2ND > > AND 7TH > > > > > > HOUSE > > > > > > > > > ARE CALLED AS MARAKA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AS PER KAS, WE STUDY ACCIDENT FROM 7TH HOUSE AND 2ND > > HOUSE IS > > > > > > KARAK. > > > > > > > > > SO IT IS VERY PRECISE AS PER KAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOW, ACCIDENT IS NOT THE SAME AS DEATH THESE ARE 2 > > DIFFERENT > > > > > > THINGS > > > > > > > > > AND EVENTS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FOR DEATH 8TH HOUSE IS B SO KARAK IS 3RD HOUSE. SO IF > > THERE > > > > > > IS AN > > > > > > > > > ACCIDENT SO 2ND HOUSE IS KARAK AND 7TH HOUSE IS B AND > THAT > > > > > > LEADS TO > > > > > > > > > DEATH THEN 8TH HOUSE MUST PLAY A PART. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU CAN CHECK IN MANY CHARTS OVER TIME AND SUCH THINGS > > > WILL GET > > > > > > > > CLEAR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CHEERS !!! > > > > > > > > > ASH -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have posted a couple of new articles on my > > > > > > > > > > > website. Kindly take a look. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > > > > > > > > ______________ > > > > > > > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > > > > > > > > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' > Green > > > > > > Center. > > > > > > > > > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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