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This person got married on 5th February, 2007. Venus/Mercury period,

second sector, saturn/moon PDF.

 

Congratulations Harjeet!

 

NS

 

, " harjeet bakshi "

<harjeet_bakshi wrote:

>

> Dear NS,

> the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's lagna to

change.

> so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th

> navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is recorded so

> taking that into assumption :D).

> so full delay by saturn.

> jupiter in rasi dealys too.

> no delays.

> no blessings.

> jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn.

> delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn enetered leo

and

> jupiter scorpio sometime last year.

> so the native might marry second sector of current antra of me which

> is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and h12.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> >

> > For list members who live in India, or grew up in India -

> >

> > How common is it for the official birth certificates in India to

be

> > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent to the

> > government for recording?

> >

> > NS

> >

> > --- In

, " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > >

> > > This person lives in India (same town where she was born and

> > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class " economic

> > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the field,

> > though -

> > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her community, girls

can

> > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age till 25 -

27

> > > years of age. She currently works as a administrative person

in a

> > > car dealership.

> > >

> > > NS

> > >

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear List,

> > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. Satish, you

also

> > try

> > > to

> > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not matter.

> > > >

> > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back ground,

where

> > is

> > > > she located now means living and as per her community, in

what age

> > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can identify what

is

> > > delayed.

> > > >

> > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st sector.

> > > >

> > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep

> > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep

> > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > As an additional note, its important to understand the desh,

kaal

> > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, where the

native

> > is

> > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a significant

role.

> > In

> > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also for

girls.

> > > >

> > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations and

choosing

> > 18

> > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We are also

taking

> > for

> > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if delay of

Saturn is

> > > over

> > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to find

> > moderation

> > > we

> > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly.

> > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age of 16 or 15

> > even

> > > so

> > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not work to the

> > exact.

> > > >

> > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind and

applied

> > > based

> > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle.

> > > >

> > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where is Gita?

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

, " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, and try to

solve

> > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, Ramesh,

Bala.

> > Only

> > > one

> > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis / attempt, I

will

> > > give

> > > > > out the answer sooner.

> > > > >

> > > > > NS

> > > > >

> > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your quiz, and

> > > realized

> > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn (to see

when

> > > Saturn's

> > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I should be

> > more

> > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses, though.

> > Thanks

> > > for

> > > > > sharing the quiz.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear NS,

> > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun

transitted in

> > > Cp

> > > > > rasi

> > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara.

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > --- In

> > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > All,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, 78E02

(India).

> > > The

> > > > > birth

> > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I have seen the

> > > English

> > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Congratz Harjeet ... well done laddy

 

, " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3 wrote:

>

> This person got married on 5th February, 2007. Venus/Mercury period,

> second sector, saturn/moon PDF.

>

> Congratulations Harjeet!

>

> NS

>

> , " harjeet bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear NS,

> > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's lagna to

> change.

> > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th

> > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is recorded so

> > taking that into assumption :D).

> > so full delay by saturn.

> > jupiter in rasi dealys too.

> > no delays.

> > no blessings.

> > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn.

> > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn enetered leo

> and

> > jupiter scorpio sometime last year.

> > so the native might marry second sector of current antra of me which

> > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and h12.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > >

> > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in India -

> > >

> > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in India to

> be

> > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent to the

> > > government for recording?

> > >

> > > NS

> > >

> > > --- In

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was born and

> > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class " economic

> > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the field,

> > > though -

> > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her community, girls

> can

> > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age till 25 -

> 27

> > > > years of age. She currently works as a administrative person

> in a

> > > > car dealership.

> > > >

> > > > NS

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear List,

> > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. Satish, you

> also

> > > try

> > > > to

> > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not matter.

> > > > >

> > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back ground,

> where

> > > is

> > > > > she located now means living and as per her community, in

> what age

> > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can identify what

> is

> > > > delayed.

> > > > >

> > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st sector.

> > > > >

> > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep

> > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep

> > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand the desh,

> kaal

> > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, where the

> native

> > > is

> > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a significant

> role.

> > > In

> > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also for

> girls.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations and

> choosing

> > > 18

> > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We are also

> taking

> > > for

> > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if delay of

> Saturn is

> > > > over

> > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to find

> > > moderation

> > > > we

> > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly.

> > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age of 16 or 15

> > > even

> > > > so

> > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not work to the

> > > exact.

> > > > >

> > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind and

> applied

> > > > based

> > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle.

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where is Gita?

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, and try to

> solve

> > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, Ramesh,

> Bala.

> > > Only

> > > > one

> > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis / attempt, I

> will

> > > > give

> > > > > > out the answer sooner.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > NS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your quiz, and

> > > > realized

> > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn (to see

> when

> > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I should be

> > > more

> > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses, though.

> > > Thanks

> > > > for

> > > > > > sharing the quiz.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear NS,

> > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun

> transitted in

> > > > Cp

> > > > > > rasi

> > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara.

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > All,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, 78E02

> (India).

> > > > The

> > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I have seen the

> > > > English

> > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Group and NS,

 

Ramesh predicted Jan 2007 and native married in Feb 2007 so I say its

accurate.

 

Bala also picked Mercury antra and 2nd sector.

 

Harjeet of course got it right.

 

 

So, contratz to Ramesh, Bala and Harjeet all 3.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

, " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3 wrote:

>

> This person got married on 5th February, 2007. Venus/Mercury period,

> second sector, saturn/moon PDF.

>

> Congratulations Harjeet!

>

> NS

>

> , " harjeet bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear NS,

> > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's lagna to

> change.

> > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th

> > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is recorded so

> > taking that into assumption :D).

> > so full delay by saturn.

> > jupiter in rasi dealys too.

> > no delays.

> > no blessings.

> > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn.

> > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn enetered leo

> and

> > jupiter scorpio sometime last year.

> > so the native might marry second sector of current antra of me which

> > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and h12.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > >

> > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in India -

> > >

> > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in India to

> be

> > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent to the

> > > government for recording?

> > >

> > > NS

> > >

> > > --- In

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was born and

> > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class " economic

> > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the field,

> > > though -

> > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her community, girls

> can

> > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age till 25 -

> 27

> > > > years of age. She currently works as a administrative person

> in a

> > > > car dealership.

> > > >

> > > > NS

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear List,

> > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. Satish, you

> also

> > > try

> > > > to

> > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not matter.

> > > > >

> > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back ground,

> where

> > > is

> > > > > she located now means living and as per her community, in

> what age

> > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can identify what

> is

> > > > delayed.

> > > > >

> > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st sector.

> > > > >

> > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep

> > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep

> > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand the desh,

> kaal

> > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, where the

> native

> > > is

> > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a significant

> role.

> > > In

> > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also for

> girls.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations and

> choosing

> > > 18

> > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We are also

> taking

> > > for

> > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if delay of

> Saturn is

> > > > over

> > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to find

> > > moderation

> > > > we

> > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly.

> > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age of 16 or 15

> > > even

> > > > so

> > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not work to the

> > > exact.

> > > > >

> > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind and

> applied

> > > > based

> > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle.

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where is Gita?

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, and try to

> solve

> > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, Ramesh,

> Bala.

> > > Only

> > > > one

> > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis / attempt, I

> will

> > > > give

> > > > > > out the answer sooner.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > NS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your quiz, and

> > > > realized

> > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn (to see

> when

> > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I should be

> > > more

> > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses, though.

> > > Thanks

> > > > for

> > > > > > sharing the quiz.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear NS,

> > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun

> transitted in

> > > > Cp

> > > > > > rasi

> > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara.

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > All,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, 78E02

> (India).

> > > > The

> > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I have seen the

> > > > English

> > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Group and NS and Satish,

 

Yes, My appologies.

 

I just checked Satish's answer too. He has also picked that delay is

over after Nov 2006.

 

So Satish is also very close to answer. 3 months difference is

fantastic !!!

 

Well Done Satish,

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Group and NS,

>

> Ramesh predicted Jan 2007 and native married in Feb 2007 so I say its

> accurate.

>

> Bala also picked Mercury antra and 2nd sector.

>

> Harjeet of course got it right.

>

>

> So, contratz to Ramesh, Bala and Harjeet all 3.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> >

> > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. Venus/Mercury period,

> > second sector, saturn/moon PDF.

> >

> > Congratulations Harjeet!

> >

> > NS

> >

> > , " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear NS,

> > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's lagna to

> > change.

> > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th

> > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is recorded so

> > > taking that into assumption :D).

> > > so full delay by saturn.

> > > jupiter in rasi dealys too.

> > > no delays.

> > > no blessings.

> > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn.

> > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn enetered leo

> > and

> > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year.

> > > so the native might marry second sector of current antra of me which

> > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and h12.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in India -

> > > >

> > > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in India to

> > be

> > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent to the

> > > > government for recording?

> > > >

> > > > NS

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was born and

> > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class " economic

> > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the field,

> > > > though -

> > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her community, girls

> > can

> > > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age till 25 -

> > 27

> > > > > years of age. She currently works as a administrative person

> > in a

> > > > > car dealership.

> > > > >

> > > > > NS

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear List,

> > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. Satish, you

> > also

> > > > try

> > > > > to

> > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not matter.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back ground,

> > where

> > > > is

> > > > > > she located now means living and as per her community, in

> > what age

> > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can identify what

> > is

> > > > > delayed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st sector.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep

> > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep

> > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand the desh,

> > kaal

> > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, where the

> > native

> > > > is

> > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a significant

> > role.

> > > > In

> > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also for

> > girls.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations and

> > choosing

> > > > 18

> > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We are also

> > taking

> > > > for

> > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if delay of

> > Saturn is

> > > > > over

> > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to find

> > > > moderation

> > > > > we

> > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly.

> > > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age of 16 or 15

> > > > even

> > > > > so

> > > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not work to the

> > > > exact.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind and

> > applied

> > > > > based

> > > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where is Gita?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, and try to

> > solve

> > > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, Ramesh,

> > Bala.

> > > > Only

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis / attempt, I

> > will

> > > > > give

> > > > > > > out the answer sooner.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your quiz, and

> > > > > realized

> > > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn (to see

> > when

> > > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I should be

> > > > more

> > > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses, though.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > sharing the quiz.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear NS,

> > > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun

> > transitted in

> > > > > Cp

> > > > > > > rasi

> > > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara.

> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > All,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, 78E02

> > (India).

> > > > > The

> > > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I have seen the

> > > > > English

> > > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear NS,

Could you please go through Manoshi's reply to this quiz on the nature

of this lady, and give your feedback please.

Thanks,

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3 wrote:

>

> This person got married on 5th February, 2007. Venus/Mercury period,

> second sector, saturn/moon PDF.

>

> Congratulations Harjeet!

>

> NS

>

> , " harjeet bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear NS,

> > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's lagna to

> change.

> > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th

> > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is recorded so

> > taking that into assumption :D).

> > so full delay by saturn.

> > jupiter in rasi dealys too.

> > no delays.

> > no blessings.

> > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn.

> > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn enetered leo

> and

> > jupiter scorpio sometime last year.

> > so the native might marry second sector of current antra of me which

> > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and h12.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > >

> > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in India -

> > >

> > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in India to

> be

> > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent to the

> > > government for recording?

> > >

> > > NS

> > >

> > > --- In

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was born and

> > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class " economic

> > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the field,

> > > though -

> > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her community, girls

> can

> > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age till 25 -

> 27

> > > > years of age. She currently works as a administrative person

> in a

> > > > car dealership.

> > > >

> > > > NS

> > > >

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear List,

> > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. Satish, you

> also

> > > try

> > > > to

> > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not matter.

> > > > >

> > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back ground,

> where

> > > is

> > > > > she located now means living and as per her community, in

> what age

> > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can identify what

> is

> > > > delayed.

> > > > >

> > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st sector.

> > > > >

> > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep

> > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep

> > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand the desh,

> kaal

> > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, where the

> native

> > > is

> > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a significant

> role.

> > > In

> > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also for

> girls.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations and

> choosing

> > > 18

> > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We are also

> taking

> > > for

> > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if delay of

> Saturn is

> > > > over

> > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to find

> > > moderation

> > > > we

> > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly.

> > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age of 16 or 15

> > > even

> > > > so

> > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not work to the

> > > exact.

> > > > >

> > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind and

> applied

> > > > based

> > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle.

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where is Gita?

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, and try to

> solve

> > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, Ramesh,

> Bala.

> > > Only

> > > > one

> > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis / attempt, I

> will

> > > > give

> > > > > > out the answer sooner.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > NS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your quiz, and

> > > > realized

> > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn (to see

> when

> > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I should be

> > > more

> > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses, though.

> > > Thanks

> > > > for

> > > > > > sharing the quiz.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear NS,

> > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun

> transitted in

> > > > Cp

> > > > > > rasi

> > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara.

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > All,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, 78E02

> (India).

> > > > The

> > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I have seen the

> > > > English

> > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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This is what Manoshi wrote about this person -

 

" This girl may not be very happy internally and is definitely not a

spendthrift. An intelligent girl and is a straightforward, outspoken

person who is sometimes harsh/rude. May get obsessed with what she

wants to achieve or do at times. "

 

ALL VERY TRUE. Congratulations Manoshi.

 

NS

 

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear NS,

> Could you please go through Manoshi's reply to this quiz on the

nature

> of this lady, and give your feedback please.

> Thanks,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> >

> > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. Venus/Mercury

period,

> > second sector, saturn/moon PDF.

> >

> > Congratulations Harjeet!

> >

> > NS

> >

> > , " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear NS,

> > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's lagna to

> > change.

> > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th

> > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is

recorded so

> > > taking that into assumption :D).

> > > so full delay by saturn.

> > > jupiter in rasi dealys too.

> > > no delays.

> > > no blessings.

> > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn.

> > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn enetered

leo

> > and

> > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year.

> > > so the native might marry second sector of current antra of me

which

> > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and h12.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > > --- In

, " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in India -

> > > >

> > > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in India

to

> > be

> > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent to the

> > > > government for recording?

> > > >

> > > > NS

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was born

and

> > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class "

economic

> > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the

field,

> > > > though -

> > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her community,

girls

> > can

> > > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age till

25 -

> > 27

> > > > > years of age. She currently works as a administrative

person

> > in a

> > > > > car dealership.

> > > > >

> > > > > NS

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear List,

> > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. Satish, you

> > also

> > > > try

> > > > > to

> > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not matter.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back

ground,

> > where

> > > > is

> > > > > > she located now means living and as per her community, in

> > what age

> > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can identify

what

> > is

> > > > > delayed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st

sector.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep

> > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep

> > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand the

desh,

> > kaal

> > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, where the

> > native

> > > > is

> > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a

significant

> > role.

> > > > In

> > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also for

> > girls.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations and

> > choosing

> > > > 18

> > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We are also

> > taking

> > > > for

> > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if delay of

> > Saturn is

> > > > > over

> > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to find

> > > > moderation

> > > > > we

> > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly.

> > > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age of 16

or 15

> > > > even

> > > > > so

> > > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not work to

the

> > > > exact.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind and

> > applied

> > > > > based

> > > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where is

Gita?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, and try

to

> > solve

> > > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, Ramesh,

> > Bala.

> > > > Only

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis /

attempt, I

> > will

> > > > > give

> > > > > > > out the answer sooner.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your quiz,

and

> > > > > realized

> > > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn (to see

> > when

> > > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I

should be

> > > > more

> > > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses,

though.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > sharing the quiz.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > >

, " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear NS,

> > > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun

> > transitted in

> > > > > Cp

> > > > > > > rasi

> > > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara.

> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > All,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, 78E02

> > (India).

> > > > > The

> > > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I have seen

the

> > > > > English

> > > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear NS and Manoshi,

 

Congratz Manoshi, well done.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

, " nirvana_seeker3 "

<nirvana_seeker3 wrote:

>

> This is what Manoshi wrote about this person -

>

> " This girl may not be very happy internally and is definitely not a

> spendthrift. An intelligent girl and is a straightforward, outspoken

> person who is sometimes harsh/rude. May get obsessed with what she

> wants to achieve or do at times. "

>

> ALL VERY TRUE. Congratulations Manoshi.

>

> NS

>

>

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear NS,

> > Could you please go through Manoshi's reply to this quiz on the

> nature

> > of this lady, and give your feedback please.

> > Thanks,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > >

> > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. Venus/Mercury

> period,

> > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF.

> > >

> > > Congratulations Harjeet!

> > >

> > > NS

> > >

> > > , " harjeet bakshi "

> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear NS,

> > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's lagna to

> > > change.

> > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th

> > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is

> recorded so

> > > > taking that into assumption :D).

> > > > so full delay by saturn.

> > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too.

> > > > no delays.

> > > > no blessings.

> > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn.

> > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn enetered

> leo

> > > and

> > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year.

> > > > so the native might marry second sector of current antra of me

> which

> > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and h12.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > > --- In

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in India -

> > > > >

> > > > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in India

> to

> > > be

> > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent to the

> > > > > government for recording?

> > > > >

> > > > > NS

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was born

> and

> > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class "

> economic

> > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the

> field,

> > > > > though -

> > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her community,

> girls

> > > can

> > > > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age till

> 25 -

> > > 27

> > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a administrative

> person

> > > in a

> > > > > > car dealership.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > NS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear List,

> > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. Satish, you

> > > also

> > > > > try

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not matter.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back

> ground,

> > > where

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > she located now means living and as per her community, in

> > > what age

> > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can identify

> what

> > > is

> > > > > > delayed.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st

> sector.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep

> > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep

> > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand the

> desh,

> > > kaal

> > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, where the

> > > native

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a

> significant

> > > role.

> > > > > In

> > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also for

> > > girls.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations and

> > > choosing

> > > > > 18

> > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We are also

> > > taking

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if delay of

> > > Saturn is

> > > > > > over

> > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to find

> > > > > moderation

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly.

> > > > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age of 16

> or 15

> > > > > even

> > > > > > so

> > > > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not work to

> the

> > > > > exact.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind and

> > > applied

> > > > > > based

> > > > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where is

> Gita?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, and try

> to

> > > solve

> > > > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, Ramesh,

> > > Bala.

> > > > > Only

> > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis /

> attempt, I

> > > will

> > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > out the answer sooner.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your quiz,

> and

> > > > > > realized

> > > > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn (to see

> > > when

> > > > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I

> should be

> > > > > more

> > > > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses,

> though.

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > sharing the quiz.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > >

> , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear NS,

> > > > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun

> > > transitted in

> > > > > > Cp

> > > > > > > > rasi

> > > > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara.

> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > All,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, 78E02

> > > (India).

> > > > > > The

> > > > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I have seen

> the

> > > > > > English

> > > > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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thanks Ashji/NS

regards

harjeet

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Group and NS,

>

> Ramesh predicted Jan 2007 and native married in Feb 2007 so I say its

> accurate.

>

> Bala also picked Mercury antra and 2nd sector.

>

> Harjeet of course got it right.

>

>

> So, contratz to Ramesh, Bala and Harjeet all 3.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> >

> > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. Venus/Mercury period,

> > second sector, saturn/moon PDF.

> >

> > Congratulations Harjeet!

> >

> > NS

> >

> > , " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear NS,

> > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's lagna to

> > change.

> > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th

> > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is recorded so

> > > taking that into assumption :D).

> > > so full delay by saturn.

> > > jupiter in rasi dealys too.

> > > no delays.

> > > no blessings.

> > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn.

> > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn enetered leo

> > and

> > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year.

> > > so the native might marry second sector of current antra of me which

> > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and h12.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in India -

> > > >

> > > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in India to

> > be

> > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent to the

> > > > government for recording?

> > > >

> > > > NS

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was born and

> > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class " economic

> > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the field,

> > > > though -

> > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her community, girls

> > can

> > > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age till 25 -

> > 27

> > > > > years of age. She currently works as a administrative person

> > in a

> > > > > car dealership.

> > > > >

> > > > > NS

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear List,

> > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. Satish, you

> > also

> > > > try

> > > > > to

> > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not matter.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back ground,

> > where

> > > > is

> > > > > > she located now means living and as per her community, in

> > what age

> > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can identify what

> > is

> > > > > delayed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st sector.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep

> > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep

> > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand the desh,

> > kaal

> > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, where the

> > native

> > > > is

> > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a significant

> > role.

> > > > In

> > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also for

> > girls.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations and

> > choosing

> > > > 18

> > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We are also

> > taking

> > > > for

> > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if delay of

> > Saturn is

> > > > > over

> > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to find

> > > > moderation

> > > > > we

> > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly.

> > > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age of 16 or 15

> > > > even

> > > > > so

> > > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not work to the

> > > > exact.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind and

> > applied

> > > > > based

> > > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where is Gita?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, and try to

> > solve

> > > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, Ramesh,

> > Bala.

> > > > Only

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis / attempt, I

> > will

> > > > > give

> > > > > > > out the answer sooner.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your quiz, and

> > > > > realized

> > > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn (to see

> > when

> > > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I should be

> > > > more

> > > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses, though.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > sharing the quiz.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear NS,

> > > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun

> > transitted in

> > > > > Cp

> > > > > > > rasi

> > > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara.

> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > All,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, 78E02

> > (India).

> > > > > The

> > > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I have seen the

> > > > > English

> > > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Ash and all members,

Thanks to all of you. If you read my postings I said marriage might

have happened when Sun transits over Cp rasi and uttarashadh nak.

However it is sravan nak ruled by Moon so few days difference.

But so many confusion arose while attempting this chart.

Everone of you are telling Ju moderates the delay.But according to

lesson 33,it is clearly mentioned that Ju cannot moderate the delay

when he is with Sa in the same sign.Ju moderates delay only when he

aspects Sa but Ju should not be in the sign of Sa,in the nak. of Sa

and in the navamsa of Sa.

So accepting this rule delay was over on 20 Oct 2006 when Me antara

was running.No sooner delay was over the native got married just

after 3 month.

Is it not amazing ? That is why I had doubt whether the native is

still unmarried.When NS informed that the native is married, we have

to choose the date from Me antara itself.

One more question . Why PDF of Sat-Sun did not give marriage.Sun gets

more points than Mo in WS for 7th house.

This all needs to be discussed and checked in more and more charts.

As Bala pointed out that in most of the chart Me is found giving

marriage in its second sector.

Manoshi also pointed out that Me is aspecting house B, he should have

been discarded for the result of 7th house.

I have to say on this point that Me is in Venus navamsa and Ve is

LoD.Thus would not Me be SD to Ve?

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

-- In , " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Group and NS,

>

> Ramesh predicted Jan 2007 and native married in Feb 2007 so I say

its

> accurate.

>

> Bala also picked Mercury antra and 2nd sector.

>

> Harjeet of course got it right.

>

>

> So, contratz to Ramesh, Bala and Harjeet all 3.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> >

> > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. Venus/Mercury

period,

> > second sector, saturn/moon PDF.

> >

> > Congratulations Harjeet!

> >

> > NS

> >

> > , " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear NS,

> > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's lagna to

> > change.

> > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th

> > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is

recorded so

> > > taking that into assumption :D).

> > > so full delay by saturn.

> > > jupiter in rasi dealys too.

> > > no delays.

> > > no blessings.

> > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn.

> > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn enetered

leo

> > and

> > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year.

> > > so the native might marry second sector of current antra of me

which

> > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and h12.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > > --- In

, " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in India -

> > > >

> > > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in India

to

> > be

> > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent to the

> > > > government for recording?

> > > >

> > > > NS

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was born

and

> > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class "

economic

> > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the

field,

> > > > though -

> > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her community,

girls

> > can

> > > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age till

25 -

> > 27

> > > > > years of age. She currently works as a administrative

person

> > in a

> > > > > car dealership.

> > > > >

> > > > > NS

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear List,

> > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. Satish, you

> > also

> > > > try

> > > > > to

> > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not matter.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back

ground,

> > where

> > > > is

> > > > > > she located now means living and as per her community, in

> > what age

> > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can identify

what

> > is

> > > > > delayed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st

sector.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep

> > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep

> > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand the

desh,

> > kaal

> > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, where the

> > native

> > > > is

> > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a

significant

> > role.

> > > > In

> > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also for

> > girls.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations and

> > choosing

> > > > 18

> > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We are also

> > taking

> > > > for

> > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if delay of

> > Saturn is

> > > > > over

> > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to find

> > > > moderation

> > > > > we

> > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly.

> > > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age of 16

or 15

> > > > even

> > > > > so

> > > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not work to

the

> > > > exact.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind and

> > applied

> > > > > based

> > > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where is

Gita?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, and try

to

> > solve

> > > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, Ramesh,

> > Bala.

> > > > Only

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis /

attempt, I

> > will

> > > > > give

> > > > > > > out the answer sooner.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your quiz,

and

> > > > > realized

> > > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn (to see

> > when

> > > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I

should be

> > > > more

> > > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses,

though.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > sharing the quiz.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > >

, " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear NS,

> > > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun

> > transitted in

> > > > > Cp

> > > > > > > rasi

> > > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara.

> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > All,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, 78E02

> > (India).

> > > > > The

> > > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I have seen

the

> > > > > English

> > > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Ash and all members,

Thanks to all of you. If you read my postings I said marriage might

have happened when Sun transits over Cp rasi and uttarashadh nak.

However it is sravan nak ruled by Moon so few days difference.

But so many confusion arose while attempting this chart.

Everone of you are telling Ju moderates the delay.But according to

lesson 33,it is clearly mentioned that Ju cannot moderate the delay

when he is with Sa in the same sign.Ju moderates delay only when he

aspects Sa but Ju should not be in the sign of Sa,in the nak. of Sa

and in the navamsa of Sa.

So accepting this rule delay was over on 20 Oct 2006 when Me antara

was running.No sooner delay was over the native got married just

after 3 month.

Is it not amazing ? That is why I had doubt whether the native is

still unmarried.When NS informed that the native is married, we have

to choose the date from Me antara itself.

One more question . Why PDF of Sat-Sun did not give marriage.Sun gets

more points than Mo in WS for 7th house.

This all needs to be discussed and checked in more and more charts.

As Bala pointed out that in most of the chart Me is found giving

marriage in its second sector.

Manoshi also pointed out that Me is aspecting house B, he should have

been discarded for the result of 7th house.

I have to say on this point that Me is in Venus navamsa and Ve is

LoD.Thus would not Me be SD to Ve?

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

-- In , " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Group and NS,

>

> Ramesh predicted Jan 2007 and native married in Feb 2007 so I say

its

> accurate.

>

> Bala also picked Mercury antra and 2nd sector.

>

> Harjeet of course got it right.

>

>

> So, contratz to Ramesh, Bala and Harjeet all 3.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> >

> > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. Venus/Mercury

period,

> > second sector, saturn/moon PDF.

> >

> > Congratulations Harjeet!

> >

> > NS

> >

> > , " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear NS,

> > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's lagna to

> > change.

> > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th

> > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is

recorded so

> > > taking that into assumption :D).

> > > so full delay by saturn.

> > > jupiter in rasi dealys too.

> > > no delays.

> > > no blessings.

> > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn.

> > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn enetered

leo

> > and

> > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year.

> > > so the native might marry second sector of current antra of me

which

> > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and h12.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > > --- In

, " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in India -

> > > >

> > > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in India

to

> > be

> > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent to the

> > > > government for recording?

> > > >

> > > > NS

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was born

and

> > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class "

economic

> > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the

field,

> > > > though -

> > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her community,

girls

> > can

> > > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age till

25 -

> > 27

> > > > > years of age. She currently works as a administrative

person

> > in a

> > > > > car dealership.

> > > > >

> > > > > NS

> > > > >

> > > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear List,

> > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. Satish, you

> > also

> > > > try

> > > > > to

> > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not matter.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back

ground,

> > where

> > > > is

> > > > > > she located now means living and as per her community, in

> > what age

> > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can identify

what

> > is

> > > > > delayed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st

sector.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep

> > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep

> > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand the

desh,

> > kaal

> > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, where the

> > native

> > > > is

> > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a

significant

> > role.

> > > > In

> > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also for

> > girls.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations and

> > choosing

> > > > 18

> > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We are also

> > taking

> > > > for

> > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if delay of

> > Saturn is

> > > > > over

> > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to find

> > > > moderation

> > > > > we

> > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly.

> > > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age of 16

or 15

> > > > even

> > > > > so

> > > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not work to

the

> > > > exact.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind and

> > applied

> > > > > based

> > > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where is

Gita?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, and try

to

> > solve

> > > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, Ramesh,

> > Bala.

> > > > Only

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis /

attempt, I

> > will

> > > > > give

> > > > > > > out the answer sooner.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your quiz,

and

> > > > > realized

> > > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn (to see

> > when

> > > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I

should be

> > > > more

> > > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses,

though.

> > > > Thanks

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > sharing the quiz.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > >

, " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear NS,

> > > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun

> > transitted in

> > > > > Cp

> > > > > > > rasi

> > > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara.

> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > All,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, 78E02

> > (India).

> > > > > The

> > > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I have seen

the

> > > > > English

> > > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Any opinion on why the antra, when Saturn delay got over, gave

marriage. Shouldn't it be the next antra that give marriage.

 

NS

 

, " aarceemastro2002 "

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash and all members,

> Thanks to all of you. If you read my postings I said marriage might

> have happened when Sun transits over Cp rasi and uttarashadh nak.

> However it is sravan nak ruled by Moon so few days difference.

> But so many confusion arose while attempting this chart.

> Everone of you are telling Ju moderates the delay.But according to

> lesson 33,it is clearly mentioned that Ju cannot moderate the delay

> when he is with Sa in the same sign.Ju moderates delay only when he

> aspects Sa but Ju should not be in the sign of Sa,in the nak. of Sa

> and in the navamsa of Sa.

> So accepting this rule delay was over on 20 Oct 2006 when Me antara

> was running.No sooner delay was over the native got married just

> after 3 month.

> Is it not amazing ? That is why I had doubt whether the native is

> still unmarried.When NS informed that the native is married, we

have

> to choose the date from Me antara itself.

> One more question . Why PDF of Sat-Sun did not give marriage.Sun

gets

> more points than Mo in WS for 7th house.

> This all needs to be discussed and checked in more and more charts.

> As Bala pointed out that in most of the chart Me is found giving

> marriage in its second sector.

> Manoshi also pointed out that Me is aspecting house B, he should

have

> been discarded for the result of 7th house.

> I have to say on this point that Me is in Venus navamsa and Ve is

> LoD.Thus would not Me be SD to Ve?

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

> -- In , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Group and NS,

> >

> > Ramesh predicted Jan 2007 and native married in Feb 2007 so I say

> its

> > accurate.

> >

> > Bala also picked Mercury antra and 2nd sector.

> >

> > Harjeet of course got it right.

> >

> >

> > So, contratz to Ramesh, Bala and Harjeet all 3.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> >

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > >

> > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. Venus/Mercury

> period,

> > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF.

> > >

> > > Congratulations Harjeet!

> > >

> > > NS

> > >

> > > , " harjeet

bakshi "

> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear NS,

> > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's lagna

to

> > > change.

> > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th

> > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is

> recorded so

> > > > taking that into assumption :D).

> > > > so full delay by saturn.

> > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too.

> > > > no delays.

> > > > no blessings.

> > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn.

> > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn

enetered

> leo

> > > and

> > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year.

> > > > so the native might marry second sector of current antra of

me

> which

> > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and h12.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > > --- In

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in India -

> > > > >

> > > > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in

India

> to

> > > be

> > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent to

the

> > > > > government for recording?

> > > > >

> > > > > NS

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was born

> and

> > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class "

> economic

> > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the

> field,

> > > > > though -

> > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her community,

> girls

> > > can

> > > > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age

till

> 25 -

> > > 27

> > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a administrative

> person

> > > in a

> > > > > > car dealership.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > NS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear List,

> > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. Satish,

you

> > > also

> > > > > try

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not matter.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back

> ground,

> > > where

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > she located now means living and as per her community,

in

> > > what age

> > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can

identify

> what

> > > is

> > > > > > delayed.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st

> sector.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep

> > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep

> > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand the

> desh,

> > > kaal

> > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, where

the

> > > native

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a

> significant

> > > role.

> > > > > In

> > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also for

> > > girls.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations and

> > > choosing

> > > > > 18

> > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We are

also

> > > taking

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if delay of

> > > Saturn is

> > > > > > over

> > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to

find

> > > > > moderation

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly.

> > > > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age of 16

> or 15

> > > > > even

> > > > > > so

> > > > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not work to

> the

> > > > > exact.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind and

> > > applied

> > > > > > based

> > > > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where is

> Gita?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, and

try

> to

> > > solve

> > > > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, Ramesh,

> > > Bala.

> > > > > Only

> > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis /

> attempt, I

> > > will

> > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > out the answer sooner.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your

quiz,

> and

> > > > > > realized

> > > > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn (to

see

> > > when

> > > > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I

> should be

> > > > > more

> > > > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses,

> though.

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > sharing the quiz.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > >

> , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear NS,

> > > > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun

> > > transitted in

> > > > > > Cp

> > > > > > > > rasi

> > > > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara.

> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > >

, " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > All,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, 78E02

> > > (India).

> > > > > > The

> > > > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I have

seen

> the

> > > > > > English

> > > > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear ALL,

Please amend to read Ve is LoE and not LoD as I mentioned in my

earlier posting.This was a typo.Thanks.

Ramesh Mishra

, " aarceemastro2002 "

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash and all members,

> Thanks to all of you. If you read my postings I said marriage might

> have happened when Sun transits over Cp rasi and uttarashadh nak.

> However it is sravan nak ruled by Moon so few days difference.

> But so many confusion arose while attempting this chart.

> Everone of you are telling Ju moderates the delay.But according to

> lesson 33,it is clearly mentioned that Ju cannot moderate the delay

> when he is with Sa in the same sign.Ju moderates delay only when he

> aspects Sa but Ju should not be in the sign of Sa,in the nak. of Sa

> and in the navamsa of Sa.

> So accepting this rule delay was over on 20 Oct 2006 when Me antara

> was running.No sooner delay was over the native got married just

> after 3 month.

> Is it not amazing ? That is why I had doubt whether the native is

> still unmarried.When NS informed that the native is married, we

have

> to choose the date from Me antara itself.

> One more question . Why PDF of Sat-Sun did not give marriage.Sun

gets

> more points than Mo in WS for 7th house.

> This all needs to be discussed and checked in more and more charts.

> As Bala pointed out that in most of the chart Me is found giving

> marriage in its second sector.

> Manoshi also pointed out that Me is aspecting house B, he should

have

> been discarded for the result of 7th house.

> I have to say on this point that Me is in Venus navamsa and Ve is

> LoD.Thus would not Me be SD to Ve?

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

> -- In , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Group and NS,

> >

> > Ramesh predicted Jan 2007 and native married in Feb 2007 so I say

> its

> > accurate.

> >

> > Bala also picked Mercury antra and 2nd sector.

> >

> > Harjeet of course got it right.

> >

> >

> > So, contratz to Ramesh, Bala and Harjeet all 3.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> >

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > >

> > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. Venus/Mercury

> period,

> > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF.

> > >

> > > Congratulations Harjeet!

> > >

> > > NS

> > >

> > > , " harjeet

bakshi "

> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear NS,

> > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's lagna

to

> > > change.

> > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th

> > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is

> recorded so

> > > > taking that into assumption :D).

> > > > so full delay by saturn.

> > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too.

> > > > no delays.

> > > > no blessings.

> > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn.

> > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn

enetered

> leo

> > > and

> > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year.

> > > > so the native might marry second sector of current antra of

me

> which

> > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and h12.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > > --- In

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in India -

> > > > >

> > > > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in

India

> to

> > > be

> > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent to

the

> > > > > government for recording?

> > > > >

> > > > > NS

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was born

> and

> > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class "

> economic

> > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the

> field,

> > > > > though -

> > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her community,

> girls

> > > can

> > > > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age

till

> 25 -

> > > 27

> > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a administrative

> person

> > > in a

> > > > > > car dealership.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > NS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

, " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear List,

> > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. Satish,

you

> > > also

> > > > > try

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not matter.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back

> ground,

> > > where

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > she located now means living and as per her community,

in

> > > what age

> > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can

identify

> what

> > > is

> > > > > > delayed.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st

> sector.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep

> > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep

> > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand the

> desh,

> > > kaal

> > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, where

the

> > > native

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a

> significant

> > > role.

> > > > > In

> > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also for

> > > girls.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations and

> > > choosing

> > > > > 18

> > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We are

also

> > > taking

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if delay of

> > > Saturn is

> > > > > > over

> > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to

find

> > > > > moderation

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly.

> > > > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age of 16

> or 15

> > > > > even

> > > > > > so

> > > > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not work to

> the

> > > > > exact.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind and

> > > applied

> > > > > > based

> > > > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where is

> Gita?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, and

try

> to

> > > solve

> > > > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, Ramesh,

> > > Bala.

> > > > > Only

> > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis /

> attempt, I

> > > will

> > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > out the answer sooner.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your

quiz,

> and

> > > > > > realized

> > > > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn (to

see

> > > when

> > > > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I

> should be

> > > > > more

> > > > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses,

> though.

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > sharing the quiz.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > >

> , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear NS,

> > > > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun

> > > transitted in

> > > > > > Cp

> > > > > > > > rasi

> > > > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara.

> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > >

, " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > All,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, 78E02

> > > (India).

> > > > > > The

> > > > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I have

seen

> the

> > > > > > English

> > > > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

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Dear Ramesh and Groupies,

 

Yes, Ramesh is correct. Ramesh, Mercury is SD to Venus who is LoE.

In addition its SD to Sun who has highest power for 7th house of 20.

Its also SD to Ju who has good power in 12th house and 2nd house. Me

is also SD to Mo who has good power for 7th and 12th.

 

Now, as per our law, if strong significator aspects house abc itself

cant give but its also given that a planet can act as SD for a strong

significator if that planet is unable to give result for some reason

or the other.

 

Sun aspects House B, so Sun can't give result. Being SD to LoE has

also made it eager. Sun's antra is over in Delay period and so is

Moon's antra. Even Venus's antra is over.

 

So when delay is over, its in Mercury antra and Mercury itself is

aspecting 7th house or House B, so itself can't give, but it can come

forward for Sun or Venus as they were unable to give result, and now

Mercury's chance came so it can be deputed and will give the timing of

event.

 

Yes, if Mercury was not SD to any strong planet of LoD or LoE then it

would not have given the result, as it aspects House B. So itself

cant give nor it can't be deputed by any strong planet as no one is

the SD to Me.

 

So please keep this in mind.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " aarceemastro2002 "

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear ALL,

> Please amend to read Ve is LoE and not LoD as I mentioned in my

> earlier posting.This was a typo.Thanks.

> Ramesh Mishra

> , " aarceemastro2002 "

> <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash and all members,

> > Thanks to all of you. If you read my postings I said marriage might

> > have happened when Sun transits over Cp rasi and uttarashadh nak.

> > However it is sravan nak ruled by Moon so few days difference.

> > But so many confusion arose while attempting this chart.

> > Everone of you are telling Ju moderates the delay.But according to

> > lesson 33,it is clearly mentioned that Ju cannot moderate the delay

> > when he is with Sa in the same sign.Ju moderates delay only when he

> > aspects Sa but Ju should not be in the sign of Sa,in the nak. of Sa

> > and in the navamsa of Sa.

> > So accepting this rule delay was over on 20 Oct 2006 when Me antara

> > was running.No sooner delay was over the native got married just

> > after 3 month.

> > Is it not amazing ? That is why I had doubt whether the native is

> > still unmarried.When NS informed that the native is married, we

> have

> > to choose the date from Me antara itself.

> > One more question . Why PDF of Sat-Sun did not give marriage.Sun

> gets

> > more points than Mo in WS for 7th house.

> > This all needs to be discussed and checked in more and more charts.

> > As Bala pointed out that in most of the chart Me is found giving

> > marriage in its second sector.

> > Manoshi also pointed out that Me is aspecting house B, he should

> have

> > been discarded for the result of 7th house.

> > I have to say on this point that Me is in Venus navamsa and Ve is

> > LoD.Thus would not Me be SD to Ve?

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> > -- In , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Group and NS,

> > >

> > > Ramesh predicted Jan 2007 and native married in Feb 2007 so I say

> > its

> > > accurate.

> > >

> > > Bala also picked Mercury antra and 2nd sector.

> > >

> > > Harjeet of course got it right.

> > >

> > >

> > > So, contratz to Ramesh, Bala and Harjeet all 3.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > >

> > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. Venus/Mercury

> > period,

> > > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF.

> > > >

> > > > Congratulations Harjeet!

> > > >

> > > > NS

> > > >

> > > > , " harjeet

> bakshi "

> > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear NS,

> > > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's lagna

> to

> > > > change.

> > > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th

> > > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is

> > recorded so

> > > > > taking that into assumption :D).

> > > > > so full delay by saturn.

> > > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too.

> > > > > no delays.

> > > > > no blessings.

> > > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn.

> > > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn

> enetered

> > leo

> > > > and

> > > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year.

> > > > > so the native might marry second sector of current antra of

> me

> > which

> > > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and h12.

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > > --- In

> > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in India -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in

> India

> > to

> > > > be

> > > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent to

> the

> > > > > > government for recording?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > NS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was born

> > and

> > > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class "

> > economic

> > > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the

> > field,

> > > > > > though -

> > > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her community,

> > girls

> > > > can

> > > > > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age

> till

> > 25 -

> > > > 27

> > > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a administrative

> > person

> > > > in a

> > > > > > > car dealership.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear List,

> > > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. Satish,

> you

> > > > also

> > > > > > try

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not matter.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back

> > ground,

> > > > where

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > she located now means living and as per her community,

> in

> > > > what age

> > > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can

> identify

> > what

> > > > is

> > > > > > > delayed.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st

> > sector.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep

> > > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep

> > > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand the

> > desh,

> > > > kaal

> > > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, where

> the

> > > > native

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a

> > significant

> > > > role.

> > > > > > In

> > > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also for

> > > > girls.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations and

> > > > choosing

> > > > > > 18

> > > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We are

> also

> > > > taking

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if delay of

> > > > Saturn is

> > > > > > > over

> > > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to

> find

> > > > > > moderation

> > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly.

> > > > > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age of 16

> > or 15

> > > > > > even

> > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not work to

> > the

> > > > > > exact.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind and

> > > > applied

> > > > > > > based

> > > > > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where is

> > Gita?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, and

> try

> > to

> > > > solve

> > > > > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, Ramesh,

> > > > Bala.

> > > > > > Only

> > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis /

> > attempt, I

> > > > will

> > > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > out the answer sooner.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your

> quiz,

> > and

> > > > > > > realized

> > > > > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn (to

> see

> > > > when

> > > > > > > Saturn's

> > > > > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I

> > should be

> > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses,

> > though.

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > sharing the quiz.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > >

> > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear NS,

> > > > > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun

> > > > transitted in

> > > > > > > Cp

> > > > > > > > > rasi

> > > > > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara.

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > >

> , " nirvana_seeker3 "

> > > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > All,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, 78E02

> > > > (India).

> > > > > > > The

> > > > > > > > > birth

> > > > > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I have

> seen

> > the

> > > > > > > English

> > > > > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > NS

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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