Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Dear NS and all, Congrats Harjeet, Bala, Ramesh, Satish, and others getting the right answer on the marriage quiz. I overlooked the Jupiter delay, (careless mistake as usual :-P ). Ramesh, I have always taken moderation of delay when benifical Jupiter is with Saturn though you have pointed out a point in lesson 33, which I am thinking of now. Only one thing I am still confuded about is why Mercury gave marriage when it is aspecting 7th house. Say, we consider Mercury as a SD to Sun to give marriage but Sun is aspecting 7th too. Solving more charts of this type will make things more clear. I may not be able to participate too much in the group activities now onwards as I am getting busy in other things. But will visit the group whenever I get a chance. Thanks Manoshi -- In , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Congratz Harjeet ... well done laddy > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. Venus/Mercury period, > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF. > > > > Congratulations Harjeet! > > > > NS > > > > , " harjeet bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's lagna to > > change. > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is recorded so > > > taking that into assumption ). > > > so full delay by saturn. > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too. > > > no delays. > > > no blessings. > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn. > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn enetered leo > > and > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year. > > > so the native might marry second sector of current antra of me which > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and h12. > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > --- In , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in India - > > > > > > > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in India to > > be > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent to the > > > > government for recording? > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was born and > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class " economic > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the field, > > > > though - > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her community, girls > > can > > > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age till 25 - > > 27 > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a administrative person > > in a > > > > > car dealership. > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. Satish, you > > also > > > > try > > > > > to > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back ground, > > where > > > > is > > > > > > she located now means living and as per her community, in > > what age > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can identify what > > is > > > > > delayed. > > > > > > > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand the desh, > > kaal > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, where the > > native > > > > is > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a significant > > role. > > > > In > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also for > > girls. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations and > > choosing > > > > 18 > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We are also > > taking > > > > for > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if delay of > > Saturn is > > > > > over > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to find > > > > moderation > > > > > we > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly. > > > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age of 16 or 15 > > > > even > > > > > so > > > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not work to the > > > > exact. > > > > > > > > > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind and > > applied > > > > > based > > > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where is Gita? > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, and try to > > solve > > > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, Ramesh, > > Bala. > > > > Only > > > > > one > > > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis / attempt, I > > will > > > > > give > > > > > > > out the answer sooner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your quiz, and > > > > > realized > > > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn (to see > > when > > > > > Saturn's > > > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I should be > > > > more > > > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses, though. > > > > Thanks > > > > > for > > > > > > > sharing the quiz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun > > transitted in > > > > > Cp > > > > > > > rasi > > > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, 78E02 > > (India). > > > > > The > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I have seen the > > > > > English > > > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 May be Ash can help us in answering these questions, and the ones that I had. NS , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa wrote: > > Dear NS and all, > > Congrats Harjeet, Bala, Ramesh, Satish, and others getting the right > answer on the marriage quiz. I overlooked the Jupiter delay, > (careless mistake as usual :-P ). Ramesh, I have always taken > moderation of delay when benifical Jupiter is with Saturn though you > have pointed out a point in lesson 33, which I am thinking of now. > Only one thing I am still confuded about is why Mercury gave marriage > when it is aspecting 7th house. Say, we consider Mercury as a SD to > Sun to give marriage but Sun is aspecting 7th too. Solving more > charts of this type will make things more clear. > > I may not be able to participate too much in the group activities now > onwards as I am getting busy in other things. But will visit the > group whenever I get a chance. > > Thanks > Manoshi > > > -- In , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Congratz Harjeet ... well done laddy > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. Venus/Mercury > period, > > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF. > > > > > > Congratulations Harjeet! > > > > > > NS > > > > > > , " harjeet bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's lagna to > > > change. > > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th > > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is > recorded so > > > > taking that into assumption ). > > > > so full delay by saturn. > > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too. > > > > no delays. > > > > no blessings. > > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn. > > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn enetered > leo > > > and > > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year. > > > > so the native might marry second sector of current antra of me > which > > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and h12. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > --- In > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in India - > > > > > > > > > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in India > to > > > be > > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent to the > > > > > government for recording? > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was born > and > > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class " > economic > > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the > field, > > > > > though - > > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her community, > girls > > > can > > > > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age till > 25 - > > > 27 > > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a administrative > person > > > in a > > > > > > car dealership. > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. Satish, you > > > also > > > > > try > > > > > > to > > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back > ground, > > > where > > > > > is > > > > > > > she located now means living and as per her community, in > > > what age > > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can identify > what > > > is > > > > > > delayed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep > > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep > > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand the > desh, > > > kaal > > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, where the > > > native > > > > > is > > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a > significant > > > role. > > > > > In > > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also for > > > girls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations and > > > choosing > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We are also > > > taking > > > > > for > > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if delay of > > > Saturn is > > > > > > over > > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to find > > > > > moderation > > > > > > we > > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly. > > > > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age of 16 > or 15 > > > > > even > > > > > > so > > > > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not work to > the > > > > > exact. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind and > > > applied > > > > > > based > > > > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where is > Gita? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, and try > to > > > solve > > > > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, Ramesh, > > > Bala. > > > > > Only > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis / > attempt, I > > > will > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > out the answer sooner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your quiz, > and > > > > > > realized > > > > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn (to see > > > when > > > > > > Saturn's > > > > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I > should be > > > > > more > > > > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses, > though. > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > sharing the quiz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun > > > transitted in > > > > > > Cp > > > > > > > > rasi > > > > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara. > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, 78E02 > > > (India). > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I have seen > the > > > > > > English > > > > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Hi Manoshi, Mercury is aspecting House B. It is samadharmi to saturn as well being in Anuradha nakshatra. This is lower on the samadharmi relationships. Satish --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: > Dear NS and all, > > Congrats Harjeet, Bala, Ramesh, Satish, and others > getting the right > answer on the marriage quiz. I overlooked the > Jupiter delay, > (careless mistake as usual :-P ). Ramesh, I have > always taken > moderation of delay when benifical Jupiter is with > Saturn though you > have pointed out a point in lesson 33, which I am > thinking of now. > Only one thing I am still confuded about is why > Mercury gave marriage > when it is aspecting 7th house. Say, we consider > Mercury as a SD to > Sun to give marriage but Sun is aspecting 7th too. > Solving more > charts of this type will make things more clear. > > I may not be able to participate too much in the > group activities now > onwards as I am getting busy in other things. But > will visit the > group whenever I get a chance. > > Thanks > Manoshi > > > -- In , > " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Congratz Harjeet ... well done laddy > > > > , > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. > Venus/Mercury > period, > > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF. > > > > > > Congratulations Harjeet! > > > > > > NS > > > > > > , > " harjeet bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa > kundli's lagna to > > > change. > > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get > saturn in 5th > > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then > the time is > recorded so > > > > taking that into assumption ). > > > > so full delay by saturn. > > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too. > > > > no delays. > > > > no blessings. > > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn. > > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when > saturn enetered > leo > > > and > > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year. > > > > so the native might marry second sector of > current antra of me > which > > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 > for h5 and h12. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > --- In > , > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew > up in India - > > > > > > > > > > How common is it for the official birth > certificates in India > to > > > be > > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that > are sent to the > > > > > government for recording? > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > This person lives in India (same town > where she was born > and > > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, > " middle class " > economic > > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I > don't know the > field, > > > > > though - > > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In > her community, > girls > > > can > > > > > > generally get married anywhere between > 18years of age till > 25 - > > > 27 > > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a > administrative > person > > > in a > > > > > > car dealership. > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning > KAS. Satish, you > > > also > > > > > try > > > > > > to > > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it > does not matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, > family back > ground, > > > where > > > > > is > > > > > > > she located now means living and as per > her community, in > > > what age > > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so > we can identify > what > > > is > > > > > > delayed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa > antra and 1st > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep > > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep > > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to > understand the > desh, > > > kaal > > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is > living, where the > > > native > > > > > is > > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) > play a > significant > > > role. > > > > > In > > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 > years also for > > > girls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our > calculations and > > > choosing > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for > marriage. We are also > > > taking > > > > > for > > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for > example if delay of > > > Saturn is > > > > > > over > > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates > it then to find > > > > > moderation > > > > > > we > > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 > years roughly. > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. http://smallbusiness./r-index Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Dear Satish, No, planets do not become SD to their nakshatra lord. The law is that planets in the same nakshatra become SD so even if 2 planets go to different sign but the nakshtra is same they will become SD. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: Hi Manoshi, Mercury is aspecting House B. It is samadharmi to saturn as well being in Anuradha nakshatra. This is lower on the samadharmi relationships. Satish --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: > Dear NS and all, > > Congrats Harjeet, Bala, Ramesh, Satish, and others > getting the right > answer on the marriage quiz. I overlooked the > Jupiter delay, > (careless mistake as usual :-P ). Ramesh, I have > always taken > moderation of delay when benifical Jupiter is with > Saturn though you > have pointed out a point in lesson 33, which I am > thinking of now. > Only one thing I am still confuded about is why > Mercury gave marriage > when it is aspecting 7th house. Say, we consider > Mercury as a SD to > Sun to give marriage but Sun is aspecting 7th too. > Solving more > charts of this type will make things more clear. > > I may not be able to participate too much in the > group activities now > onwards as I am getting busy in other things. But > will visit the > group whenever I get a chance. > > Thanks > Manoshi > > > -- In , > " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Congratz Harjeet ... well done laddy > > > > , > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. > Venus/Mercury > period, > > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF. > > > > > > Congratulations Harjeet! > > > > > > NS > > > > > > , > " harjeet bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa > kundli's lagna to > > > change. > > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get > saturn in 5th > > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then > the time is > recorded so > > > > taking that into assumption ). > > > > so full delay by saturn. > > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too. > > > > no delays. > > > > no blessings. > > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn. > > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when > saturn enetered > leo > > > and > > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year. > > > > so the native might marry second sector of > current antra of me > which > > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 > for h5 and h12. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > --- In > , > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew > up in India - > > > > > > > > > > How common is it for the official birth > certificates in India > to > > > be > > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that > are sent to the > > > > > government for recording? > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > This person lives in India (same town > where she was born > and > > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, > " middle class " > economic > > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I > don't know the > field, > > > > > though - > > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In > her community, > girls > > > can > > > > > > generally get married anywhere between > 18years of age till > 25 - > > > 27 > > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a > administrative > person > > > in a > > > > > > car dealership. > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning > KAS. Satish, you > > > also > > > > > try > > > > > > to > > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it > does not matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, > family back > ground, > > > where > > > > > is > > > > > > > she located now means living and as per > her community, in > > > what age > > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so > we can identify > what > > > is > > > > > > delayed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa > antra and 1st > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep > > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep > > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to > understand the > desh, > > > kaal > > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is > living, where the > > > native > > > > > is > > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) > play a > significant > > > role. > > > > > In > > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 > years also for > > > girls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our > calculations and > > > choosing > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for > marriage. We are also > > > taking > > > > > for > > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for > example if delay of > > > Saturn is > > > > > > over > > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates > it then to find > > > > > moderation > > > > > > we > > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 > years roughly. > === message truncated === ________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. http://smallbusiness./r-index Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Search weather shortcut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Dear list, i didnt checked that mercury is aspecting 7th house... and i feel like laughing at myself. it might have given the result being samdhari to some significator. apologies. thanks/regards harjeet , Ash <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Satish, > No, planets do not become SD to their nakshatra lord. > > The law is that planets in the same nakshatra become SD so even if 2 planets go to different sign but the nakshtra is same they will become SD. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: Hi Manoshi, > > Mercury is aspecting House B. It is samadharmi to > saturn as well being in Anuradha nakshatra. This is > lower on the samadharmi relationships. > > Satish > --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: > > > Dear NS and all, > > > > Congrats Harjeet, Bala, Ramesh, Satish, and others > > getting the right > > answer on the marriage quiz. I overlooked the > > Jupiter delay, > > (careless mistake as usual :-P ). Ramesh, I have > > always taken > > moderation of delay when benifical Jupiter is with > > Saturn though you > > have pointed out a point in lesson 33, which I am > > thinking of now. > > Only one thing I am still confuded about is why > > Mercury gave marriage > > when it is aspecting 7th house. Say, we consider > > Mercury as a SD to > > Sun to give marriage but Sun is aspecting 7th too. > > Solving more > > charts of this type will make things more clear. > > > > I may not be able to participate too much in the > > group activities now > > onwards as I am getting busy in other things. But > > will visit the > > group whenever I get a chance. > > > > Thanks > > Manoshi > > > > > > -- In , > > " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Congratz Harjeet ... well done laddy > > > > > > , > > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. > > Venus/Mercury > > period, > > > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF. > > > > > > > > Congratulations Harjeet! > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > , > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa > > kundli's lagna to > > > > change. > > > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get > > saturn in 5th > > > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then > > the time is > > recorded so > > > > > taking that into assumption ). > > > > > so full delay by saturn. > > > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too. > > > > > no delays. > > > > > no blessings. > > > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn. > > > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when > > saturn enetered > > leo > > > > and > > > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year. > > > > > so the native might marry second sector of > > current antra of me > > which > > > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 > > for h5 and h12. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > --- In > > , > > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew > > up in India - > > > > > > > > > > > > How common is it for the official birth > > certificates in India > > to > > > > be > > > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that > > are sent to the > > > > > > government for recording? > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , > > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This person lives in India (same town > > where she was born > > and > > > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, > > " middle class " > > economic > > > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I > > don't know the > > field, > > > > > > though - > > > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In > > her community, > > girls > > > > can > > > > > > > generally get married anywhere between > > 18years of age till > > 25 - > > > > 27 > > > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a > > administrative > > person > > > > in a > > > > > > > car dealership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning > > KAS. Satish, you > > > > also > > > > > > try > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it > > does not matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, > > family back > > ground, > > > > where > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > she located now means living and as per > > her community, in > > > > what age > > > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so > > we can identify > > what > > > > is > > > > > > > delayed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa > > antra and 1st > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep > > > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep > > > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to > > understand the > > desh, > > > > kaal > > > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is > > living, where the > > > > native > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) > > play a > > significant > > > > role. > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 > > years also for > > > > girls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our > > calculations and > > > > choosing > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for > > marriage. We are also > > > > taking > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for > > example if delay of > > > > Saturn is > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates > > it then to find > > > > > > moderation > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 > > years roughly. > > > === message truncated === > > ________ > Want to start your own business? > Learn how on Small Business. > http://smallbusiness./r-index > > > > > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast > with the Search weather shortcut. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Dear Group, Please continue your discussions. I have received guidance on this chart from Krushanji. I will do a write up in detail on this chart, howerver for now I need to work on KAS program. In the mean time, if you can continue discussing you all might cover all points. Yes, I also made a careless mistake, in my assessment or some parameters and hence I went wrong. However some points for all of you to discuss. 1) The question asked my Satish is very potent and also my Manoshi which Ramesh has pointed out. 2) Why Mercury gave timing of event. Yes, it does aspect and Manoshi asked this question. So please discuss on this so that such concepts are grilled. 3) Bala gave a very good answer w.r.t sector and that was based on long research too, so think over that point too. 4) PDF portion is straight forward. However think over it too. 5) Jupiter's angle in this chart for our experience. 6) Focus or dwelve deeper into what is the essence of the meaning of Samdharmi. If I get a chance to take a break from my coding of KAS program I shall do a write up on this today otherwise give me some more time to compose my thoughts and write. In mean time please think over and discuss these points. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " harjeet bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear list, > i didnt checked that mercury is aspecting 7th house... and i feel like > laughing at myself. it might have given the result being samdhari to > some significator. > apologies. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , Ash <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Satish, > > No, planets do not become SD to their nakshatra lord. > > > > The law is that planets in the same nakshatra become SD so even if 2 > planets go to different sign but the nakshtra is same they will become SD. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > SPK <aquaris_rising@> wrote: Hi > Manoshi, > > > > Mercury is aspecting House B. It is samadharmi to > > saturn as well being in Anuradha nakshatra. This is > > lower on the samadharmi relationships. > > > > Satish > > --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > Dear NS and all, > > > > > > Congrats Harjeet, Bala, Ramesh, Satish, and others > > > getting the right > > > answer on the marriage quiz. I overlooked the > > > Jupiter delay, > > > (careless mistake as usual :-P ). Ramesh, I have > > > always taken > > > moderation of delay when benifical Jupiter is with > > > Saturn though you > > > have pointed out a point in lesson 33, which I am > > > thinking of now. > > > Only one thing I am still confuded about is why > > > Mercury gave marriage > > > when it is aspecting 7th house. Say, we consider > > > Mercury as a SD to > > > Sun to give marriage but Sun is aspecting 7th too. > > > Solving more > > > charts of this type will make things more clear. > > > > > > I may not be able to participate too much in the > > > group activities now > > > onwards as I am getting busy in other things. But > > > will visit the > > > group whenever I get a chance. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > -- In , > > > " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Congratz Harjeet ... well done laddy > > > > > > > > , > > > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. > > > Venus/Mercury > > > period, > > > > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF. > > > > > > > > > > Congratulations Harjeet! > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > , > > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa > > > kundli's lagna to > > > > > change. > > > > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get > > > saturn in 5th > > > > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then > > > the time is > > > recorded so > > > > > > taking that into assumption ). > > > > > > so full delay by saturn. > > > > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too. > > > > > > no delays. > > > > > > no blessings. > > > > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn. > > > > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when > > > saturn enetered > > > leo > > > > > and > > > > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year. > > > > > > so the native might marry second sector of > > > current antra of me > > > which > > > > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 > > > for h5 and h12. > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > --- In > > > , > > > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew > > > up in India - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How common is it for the official birth > > > certificates in India > > > to > > > > > be > > > > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that > > > are sent to the > > > > > > > government for recording? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , > > > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This person lives in India (same town > > > where she was born > > > and > > > > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, > > > " middle class " > > > economic > > > > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I > > > don't know the > > > field, > > > > > > > though - > > > > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In > > > her community, > > > girls > > > > > can > > > > > > > > generally get married anywhere between > > > 18years of age till > > > 25 - > > > > > 27 > > > > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a > > > administrative > > > person > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > car dealership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning > > > KAS. Satish, you > > > > > also > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it > > > does not matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, > > > family back > > > ground, > > > > > where > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > she located now means living and as per > > > her community, in > > > > > what age > > > > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so > > > we can identify > > > what > > > > > is > > > > > > > > delayed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa > > > antra and 1st > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep > > > > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep > > > > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to > > > understand the > > > desh, > > > > > kaal > > > > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is > > > living, where the > > > > > native > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) > > > play a > > > significant > > > > > role. > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 > > > years also for > > > > > girls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our > > > calculations and > > > > > choosing > > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for > > > marriage. We are also > > > > > taking > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for > > > example if delay of > > > > > Saturn is > > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates > > > it then to find > > > > > > > moderation > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 > > > years roughly. > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > ________ > > Want to start your own business? > > Learn how on Small Business. > > http://smallbusiness./r-index > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast > > with the Search weather shortcut. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Hi, As Ash has pointed out, Mercury is not samadharmi to saturn due to its occupying the nakshatra of saturn. A long time ago, I had a chance to meet Naredra Desai, he had mentioned that shani and budh have a similar special relationship like shani and shukra. Shani shukra is mutual i.e. they are best buddies. Shani and budh is a bit different. Mythologically Budh is younger brother of shani and shani is fond of budh. He wants to do the work but wants budh to get the credit. So he gives in the dhasha of budh which follows his own dasha. Budh does not give through shani but shani gives through budh. This is not in KAS lessons. But I would like Ash or Krushna to comment on this aspect of relationship between Shani and Budh. Thanks Satish --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: > Dear NS and all, > > Congrats Harjeet, Bala, Ramesh, Satish, and others > getting the right > answer on the marriage quiz. I overlooked the > Jupiter delay, > (careless mistake as usual :-P ). Ramesh, I have > always taken > moderation of delay when benifical Jupiter is with > Saturn though you > have pointed out a point in lesson 33, which I am > thinking of now. > Only one thing I am still confuded about is why > Mercury gave marriage > when it is aspecting 7th house. Say, we consider > Mercury as a SD to > Sun to give marriage but Sun is aspecting 7th too. > Solving more > charts of this type will make things more clear. > > I may not be able to participate too much in the > group activities now > onwards as I am getting busy in other things. But > will visit the > group whenever I get a chance. > > Thanks > Manoshi > > > -- In , > " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Congratz Harjeet ... well done laddy > > > > , > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. > Venus/Mercury > period, > > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF. > > > > > > Congratulations Harjeet! > > > > > > NS > > > > > > , > " harjeet bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa > kundli's lagna to > > > change. > > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get > saturn in 5th > > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then > the time is > recorded so > > > > taking that into assumption ). > > > > so full delay by saturn. > > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too. > > > > no delays. > > > > no blessings. > > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn. > > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when > saturn enetered > leo > > > and > > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year. > > > > so the native might marry second sector of > current antra of me > which > > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 > for h5 and h12. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > --- In > , > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew > up in India - > > > > > > > > > > How common is it for the official birth > certificates in India > to > > > be > > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that > are sent to the > > > > > government for recording? > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > This person lives in India (same town > where she was born > and > > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, > " middle class " > economic > > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I > don't know the > field, > > > > > though - > > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In > her community, > girls > > > can > > > > > > generally get married anywhere between > 18years of age till > 25 - > > > 27 > > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a > administrative > person > > > in a > > > > > > car dealership. > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning > KAS. Satish, you > > > also > > > > > try > > > > > > to > > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it > does not matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, > family back > ground, > > > where > > > > > is > > > > > > > she located now means living and as per > her community, in > > > what age > > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so > we can identify > what > > > is > > > > > > delayed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa > antra and 1st > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep > > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep > > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to > understand the > desh, > > > kaal > > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is > living, where the > > > native > > > > > is > > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) > play a > significant > > > role. > > > > > In > > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 > years also for > > > girls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our > calculations and > > > choosing > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for > marriage. We are also > > > taking > > > > > for > > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for > example if delay of > > > Saturn is > > > > > > over > > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates > it then to find > > > > > moderation > > > > > > we > > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 > years roughly. > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. http://new.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Hi, there are natural samdharis and functional samdharis and a lesson on it. about natural samdharis saturn is natural samdhari to venus because of 4:10 lordship. but if in horoscope saturn is opposite to venus they dont act as natural samdharis. because of this reason i guess jupiter and mercury aren't natural samdharis desipite having 4:10 lordship. i think according to vedic astrology... venus mercury and saturn along with rahu belong to same group headed by saturn while the other group includes sun moon jupiter headed by sun.somewhere i read even jupiter and sun would help each other out... as they are natural friends. i think we dont take that into account in KAS for samdharis... and shouldnt be confused for samdharis for this system. so here i guess u r talking about natural friends of mercury and saturn. samdharis in KAS would be for delivering for the other. so its for event that the samdharis would come forward and deliever the result. other members can correct me if i am wrong. thanks/regards harjeet , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Hi, > > As Ash has pointed out, Mercury is not samadharmi to > saturn due to its occupying the nakshatra of saturn. > > A long time ago, I had a chance to meet Naredra Desai, > he had mentioned that shani and budh have a similar > special relationship like shani and shukra. Shani > shukra is mutual i.e. they are best buddies. Shani and > budh is a bit different. Mythologically Budh is > younger brother of shani and shani is fond of budh. He > wants to do the work but wants budh to get the credit. > So he gives in the dhasha of budh which follows his > own dasha. Budh does not give through shani but shani > gives through budh. This is not in KAS lessons. But I > would like Ash or Krushna to comment on this aspect of > relationship between Shani and Budh. > > Thanks > > Satish > --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: > > > Dear NS and all, > > > > Congrats Harjeet, Bala, Ramesh, Satish, and others > > getting the right > > answer on the marriage quiz. I overlooked the > > Jupiter delay, > > (careless mistake as usual :-P ). Ramesh, I have > > always taken > > moderation of delay when benifical Jupiter is with > > Saturn though you > > have pointed out a point in lesson 33, which I am > > thinking of now. > > Only one thing I am still confuded about is why > > Mercury gave marriage > > when it is aspecting 7th house. Say, we consider > > Mercury as a SD to > > Sun to give marriage but Sun is aspecting 7th too. > > Solving more > > charts of this type will make things more clear. > > > > I may not be able to participate too much in the > > group activities now > > onwards as I am getting busy in other things. But > > will visit the > > group whenever I get a chance. > > > > Thanks > > Manoshi > > > > > > -- In , > > " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Congratz Harjeet ... well done laddy > > > > > > , > > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. > > Venus/Mercury > > period, > > > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF. > > > > > > > > Congratulations Harjeet! > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > , > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa > > kundli's lagna to > > > > change. > > > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get > > saturn in 5th > > > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then > > the time is > > recorded so > > > > > taking that into assumption ). > > > > > so full delay by saturn. > > > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too. > > > > > no delays. > > > > > no blessings. > > > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn. > > > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when > > saturn enetered > > leo > > > > and > > > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year. > > > > > so the native might marry second sector of > > current antra of me > > which > > > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 > > for h5 and h12. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > --- In > > , > > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew > > up in India - > > > > > > > > > > > > How common is it for the official birth > > certificates in India > > to > > > > be > > > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that > > are sent to the > > > > > > government for recording? > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , > > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This person lives in India (same town > > where she was born > > and > > > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, > > " middle class " > > economic > > > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I > > don't know the > > field, > > > > > > though - > > > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In > > her community, > > girls > > > > can > > > > > > > generally get married anywhere between > > 18years of age till > > 25 - > > > > 27 > > > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a > > administrative > > person > > > > in a > > > > > > > car dealership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning > > KAS. Satish, you > > > > also > > > > > > try > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it > > does not matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, > > family back > > ground, > > > > where > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > she located now means living and as per > > her community, in > > > > what age > > > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so > > we can identify > > what > > > > is > > > > > > > delayed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa > > antra and 1st > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep > > > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep > > > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to > > understand the > > desh, > > > > kaal > > > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is > > living, where the > > > > native > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) > > play a > > significant > > > > role. > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 > > years also for > > > > girls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our > > calculations and > > > > choosing > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for > > marriage. We are also > > > > taking > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for > > example if delay of > > > > Saturn is > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates > > it then to find > > > > > > moderation > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 > > years roughly. > > > === message truncated === > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Mail for Mobile. Get started. > http://mobile./mail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Dear Satish, Good question. We cannot say that Sa and Me are NSD, however they share a special relationship. Firstly, lets be clear why we say Sa and Ve are NSD. Taurus and Aquarius are in 4:10 (Kendras) AND Libra and Aquarius are in 5:9 (Trines). Taurus and Capricorn are in 5:9 (Trines) AND Libra and Capricorn are in 4:10 (Kendras) So Ve and Sa are considered NSD for each other. Also Ve and Sa are Yogakarak for each other's sign. Exception is that when Ve and Sa go into 1:7 means they have enimity and they will cease to act as NSD. So that way, this is considered in KAS. So for TIMING OF EVENT, if Venus is unable and Sa's antra comes and Ve is powerful for the event, then Sa can step in for it as NSD. Similarly, if for some reason Sa was unable to give result, and Ve's antra came so Ve will step in for Saturn and will furnish the timing Now coming to relationship between Saturn and Mercury and seeing this from KAS view point. Here they do share a special relationship however its not like Sa and Ve. From Gemini, Capricorn is 8th house from it. In KAS terminology it's Karak sthan. So if Status of Saturn is good, it means it will give better result or quality of result for Gemini. This u are already using unknowingly in KAS. Similarly, Virgo is 8th house from Aquarius, so here Mercury is acting like LoA or Karak for Aquarius. So here better the status of Mercury the better will be the result (quality) of Aquarius. So Sa and Me are karak sthan for each other's houses so they share a relationship that way. Saturn denotes brilliance and Mercury denotes intellegence. However, Saturn can't replace Mercury for timing of event just as Ve can replace Saturn or Saturn can replace Venus. So Me and Sa do share a relationship albiet its different form Ve and Sa. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Hi, > > As Ash has pointed out, Mercury is not samadharmi to > saturn due to its occupying the nakshatra of saturn. > > A long time ago, I had a chance to meet Naredra Desai, > he had mentioned that shani and budh have a similar > special relationship like shani and shukra. Shani > shukra is mutual i.e. they are best buddies. Shani and > budh is a bit different. Mythologically Budh is > younger brother of shani and shani is fond of budh. He > wants to do the work but wants budh to get the credit. > So he gives in the dhasha of budh which follows his > own dasha. Budh does not give through shani but shani > gives through budh. This is not in KAS lessons. But I > would like Ash or Krushna to comment on this aspect of > relationship between Shani and Budh. > > Thanks > > Satish > --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: > > > Dear NS and all, > > > > Congrats Harjeet, Bala, Ramesh, Satish, and others > > getting the right > > answer on the marriage quiz. I overlooked the > > Jupiter delay, > > (careless mistake as usual :-P ). Ramesh, I have > > always taken > > moderation of delay when benifical Jupiter is with > > Saturn though you > > have pointed out a point in lesson 33, which I am > > thinking of now. > > Only one thing I am still confuded about is why > > Mercury gave marriage > > when it is aspecting 7th house. Say, we consider > > Mercury as a SD to > > Sun to give marriage but Sun is aspecting 7th too. > > Solving more > > charts of this type will make things more clear. > > > > I may not be able to participate too much in the > > group activities now > > onwards as I am getting busy in other things. But > > will visit the > > group whenever I get a chance. > > > > Thanks > > Manoshi > > > > > > -- In , > > " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Congratz Harjeet ... well done laddy > > > > > > , > > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. > > Venus/Mercury > > period, > > > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF. > > > > > > > > Congratulations Harjeet! > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > , > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa > > kundli's lagna to > > > > change. > > > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get > > saturn in 5th > > > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then > > the time is > > recorded so > > > > > taking that into assumption ). > > > > > so full delay by saturn. > > > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too. > > > > > no delays. > > > > > no blessings. > > > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn. > > > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when > > saturn enetered > > leo > > > > and > > > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year. > > > > > so the native might marry second sector of > > current antra of me > > which > > > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 > > for h5 and h12. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > --- In > > , > > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew > > up in India - > > > > > > > > > > > > How common is it for the official birth > > certificates in India > > to > > > > be > > > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that > > are sent to the > > > > > > government for recording? > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , > > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This person lives in India (same town > > where she was born > > and > > > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, > > " middle class " > > economic > > > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I > > don't know the > > field, > > > > > > though - > > > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In > > her community, > > girls > > > > can > > > > > > > generally get married anywhere between > > 18years of age till > > 25 - > > > > 27 > > > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a > > administrative > > person > > > > in a > > > > > > > car dealership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning > > KAS. Satish, you > > > > also > > > > > > try > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it > > does not matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, > > family back > > ground, > > > > where > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > she located now means living and as per > > her community, in > > > > what age > > > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so > > we can identify > > what > > > > is > > > > > > > delayed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa > > antra and 1st > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep > > > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep > > > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to > > understand the > > desh, > > > > kaal > > > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is > > living, where the > > > > native > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) > > play a > > significant > > > > role. > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 > > years also for > > > > girls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our > > calculations and > > > > choosing > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for > > marriage. We are also > > > > taking > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for > > example if delay of > > > > Saturn is > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates > > it then to find > > > > > > moderation > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 > > years roughly. > > > === message truncated === > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Mail for Mobile. Get started. > http://mobile./mail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Dear Harjeet, Very nice mail. Yes, for NSD they must be 4:10 AND 5:9. So u can see the same for Leo lagna and Mars and Cancer lagna and Mars so Su and Ma and Ma and Mo become NSD. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " harjeet bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Hi, > there are natural samdharis and functional samdharis and a lesson on > it. about natural samdharis saturn is natural samdhari to venus > because of 4:10 lordship. but if in horoscope saturn is opposite to > venus they dont act as natural samdharis. because of this reason i > guess jupiter and mercury aren't natural samdharis desipite having > 4:10 lordship. > i think according to vedic astrology... venus mercury and saturn along > with rahu belong to same group headed by saturn while the other group > includes sun moon jupiter headed by sun.somewhere i read even jupiter > and sun would help each other out... as they are natural friends. i > think we dont take that into account in KAS for samdharis... and > shouldnt be confused for samdharis for this system. > so here i guess u r talking about natural friends of mercury and saturn. > samdharis in KAS would be for delivering for the other. > so its for event that the samdharis would come forward and deliever > the result. > other members can correct me if i am wrong. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > As Ash has pointed out, Mercury is not samadharmi to > > saturn due to its occupying the nakshatra of saturn. > > > > A long time ago, I had a chance to meet Naredra Desai, > > he had mentioned that shani and budh have a similar > > special relationship like shani and shukra. Shani > > shukra is mutual i.e. they are best buddies. Shani and > > budh is a bit different. Mythologically Budh is > > younger brother of shani and shani is fond of budh. He > > wants to do the work but wants budh to get the credit. > > So he gives in the dhasha of budh which follows his > > own dasha. Budh does not give through shani but shani > > gives through budh. This is not in KAS lessons. But I > > would like Ash or Krushna to comment on this aspect of > > relationship between Shani and Budh. > > > > Thanks > > > > Satish > > --- Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa@> wrote: > > > > > Dear NS and all, > > > > > > Congrats Harjeet, Bala, Ramesh, Satish, and others > > > getting the right > > > answer on the marriage quiz. I overlooked the > > > Jupiter delay, > > > (careless mistake as usual :-P ). Ramesh, I have > > > always taken > > > moderation of delay when benifical Jupiter is with > > > Saturn though you > > > have pointed out a point in lesson 33, which I am > > > thinking of now. > > > Only one thing I am still confuded about is why > > > Mercury gave marriage > > > when it is aspecting 7th house. Say, we consider > > > Mercury as a SD to > > > Sun to give marriage but Sun is aspecting 7th too. > > > Solving more > > > charts of this type will make things more clear. > > > > > > I may not be able to participate too much in the > > > group activities now > > > onwards as I am getting busy in other things. But > > > will visit the > > > group whenever I get a chance. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Manoshi > > > > > > > > > -- In , > > > " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Congratz Harjeet ... well done laddy > > > > > > > > , > > > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. > > > Venus/Mercury > > > period, > > > > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF. > > > > > > > > > > Congratulations Harjeet! > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > , > > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa > > > kundli's lagna to > > > > > change. > > > > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get > > > saturn in 5th > > > > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then > > > the time is > > > recorded so > > > > > > taking that into assumption ). > > > > > > so full delay by saturn. > > > > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too. > > > > > > no delays. > > > > > > no blessings. > > > > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn. > > > > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when > > > saturn enetered > > > leo > > > > > and > > > > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year. > > > > > > so the native might marry second sector of > > > current antra of me > > > which > > > > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 > > > for h5 and h12. > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > --- In > > > , > > > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew > > > up in India - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How common is it for the official birth > > > certificates in India > > > to > > > > > be > > > > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that > > > are sent to the > > > > > > > government for recording? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , > > > " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This person lives in India (same town > > > where she was born > > > and > > > > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, > > > " middle class " > > > economic > > > > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I > > > don't know the > > > field, > > > > > > > though - > > > > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In > > > her community, > > > girls > > > > > can > > > > > > > > generally get married anywhere between > > > 18years of age till > > > 25 - > > > > > 27 > > > > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a > > > administrative > > > person > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > car dealership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning > > > KAS. Satish, you > > > > > also > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it > > > does not matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, > > > family back > > > ground, > > > > > where > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > she located now means living and as per > > > her community, in > > > > > what age > > > > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so > > > we can identify > > > what > > > > > is > > > > > > > > delayed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa > > > antra and 1st > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep > > > > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep > > > > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to > > > understand the > > > desh, > > > > > kaal > > > > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is > > > living, where the > > > > > native > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) > > > play a > > > significant > > > > > role. > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 > > > years also for > > > > > girls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our > > > calculations and > > > > > choosing > > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for > > > marriage. We are also > > > > > taking > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for > > > example if delay of > > > > > Saturn is > > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates > > > it then to find > > > > > > > moderation > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 > > > years roughly. > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > > with Mail for Mobile. Get started. > > http://mobile./mail > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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