Guest guest Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Dear Group, I want to thank NS for putting this quiz up for the list members who have taken part zestfully. I showed this chart to Krushanji and asked him to time it and he came to Mercury antra and 2nd sector.... surprise surprise... lol... So, I asked Krushnaji, how come you came to Merucry antra. I asked him, I had picked Saturn antra in Venus MD, and he asked me how I selected Sa with ????????????????? So I told him, Sir, 1) There is full delay of Sa 2) Ju is with Sa so its moderating delay 3) So delay is getting over in antra of Sa i.e. after moderation and so Sa is delay causing and LoD so 1st sector. and Krushnaji goes.... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm (and I can see him pulling his hair)..... And that brings me to to the question that Satish posed and Ramesh was confused on how come so many chaps are taking Moderation of Delay ..... And so Krushnaji asked me... how come I got moderation of Delay...... So I told him... Sir... Ju is with Sa.............. (and then I can hear him going for a small walk... to calm him self lol)..... So, he told me.... how can this be.... what is the meaning of Samdharmi.... please think over it.... . Here Ju cannot check delay of Sa... Ju is with Sa and Sa is delay causing planet.... so here Ju will not be able to check the delay... and he told me.. I think I have given this somewhere in lesson or some mail.... So what Ramesh said is proper. Now, so that clarifies the point that Satish raised... and its this particular point... that I made a mistake in (only shows that I also must read lessons again), and I think even Manoshi took the same thing.... and both of us made mistake then. So, after that, Ramesh and well done, did not consider moderation effect and then... picked the strong pdf's after delay got over and infact came to a FEW DAYS DIFFERENCE from actual event. Kudos... Yes, Ramesh, in pressure of making the program I did not read your mail in great detail but I only saw Nov 2006 portion and did not see the pdf part that u selected which is right. 13 days tolleration we take and marriage also happens as per proper mahurat so once the time comes then if marriage is in India, you can select proper pdf based on mahurat also, but that is a different topic. If we are able to give certain strong probable dates its good. And you are right Sa-Su is strong and followed by Sa-Mo which is when marriage took place. So I would say that its an EXACT prediction so congratz. Ofcouse, today u are saying in your mail and it made me smile when u said... " oh ofcouse, after delay is over pick the strong pdf which was Sa-Su and marriage happens then " - made it sound so simple lol... Well.... exactly my friend.. when Tendulkar bats he makes batting look easy.. .lol.... but its not .... Then what Bala told about 2nd sector is also right. The only confusing part was the moderation of delay.. if we do not consider moderation, i think this would be straight forward, just as Ramesh said.. lol.... Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " aarceemastro2002 " <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear ALL, > Please amend to read Ve is LoE and not LoD as I mentioned in my > earlier posting.This was a typo.Thanks. > Ramesh Mishra > , " aarceemastro2002 " > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash and all members, > > Thanks to all of you. If you read my postings I said marriage might > > have happened when Sun transits over Cp rasi and uttarashadh nak. > > However it is sravan nak ruled by Moon so few days difference. > > But so many confusion arose while attempting this chart. > > Everone of you are telling Ju moderates the delay.But according to > > lesson 33,it is clearly mentioned that Ju cannot moderate the delay > > when he is with Sa in the same sign.Ju moderates delay only when he > > aspects Sa but Ju should not be in the sign of Sa,in the nak. of Sa > > and in the navamsa of Sa. > > So accepting this rule delay was over on 20 Oct 2006 when Me antara > > was running.No sooner delay was over the native got married just > > after 3 month. > > Is it not amazing ? That is why I had doubt whether the native is > > still unmarried.When NS informed that the native is married, we > have > > to choose the date from Me antara itself. > > One more question . Why PDF of Sat-Sun did not give marriage.Sun > gets > > more points than Mo in WS for 7th house. > > This all needs to be discussed and checked in more and more charts. > > As Bala pointed out that in most of the chart Me is found giving > > marriage in its second sector. > > Manoshi also pointed out that Me is aspecting house B, he should > have > > been discarded for the result of 7th house. > > I have to say on this point that Me is in Venus navamsa and Ve is > > LoD.Thus would not Me be SD to Ve? > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > -- In , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group and NS, > > > > > > Ramesh predicted Jan 2007 and native married in Feb 2007 so I say > > its > > > accurate. > > > > > > Bala also picked Mercury antra and 2nd sector. > > > > > > Harjeet of course got it right. > > > > > > > > > So, contratz to Ramesh, Bala and Harjeet all 3. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. Venus/Mercury > > period, > > > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF. > > > > > > > > Congratulations Harjeet! > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > , " harjeet > bakshi " > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's lagna > to > > > > change. > > > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th > > > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is > > recorded so > > > > > taking that into assumption ). > > > > > so full delay by saturn. > > > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too. > > > > > no delays. > > > > > no blessings. > > > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn. > > > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn > enetered > > leo > > > > and > > > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year. > > > > > so the native might marry second sector of current antra of > me > > which > > > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and h12. > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > harjeet > > > > > --- In > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in India - > > > > > > > > > > > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in > India > > to > > > > be > > > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent to > the > > > > > > government for recording? > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was born > > and > > > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class " > > economic > > > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the > > field, > > > > > > though - > > > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her community, > > girls > > > > can > > > > > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age > till > > 25 - > > > > 27 > > > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a administrative > > person > > > > in a > > > > > > > car dealership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. Satish, > you > > > > also > > > > > > try > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back > > ground, > > > > where > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > she located now means living and as per her community, > in > > > > what age > > > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can > identify > > what > > > > is > > > > > > > delayed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep > > > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep > > > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand the > > desh, > > > > kaal > > > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, where > the > > > > native > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a > > significant > > > > role. > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also for > > > > girls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations and > > > > choosing > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We are > also > > > > taking > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if delay of > > > > Saturn is > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to > find > > > > > > moderation > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly. > > > > > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age of 16 > > or 15 > > > > > > even > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not work to > > the > > > > > > exact. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind and > > > > applied > > > > > > > based > > > > > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where is > > Gita? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, and > try > > to > > > > solve > > > > > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, Ramesh, > > > > Bala. > > > > > > Only > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis / > > attempt, I > > > > will > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > out the answer sooner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your > quiz, > > and > > > > > > > realized > > > > > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn (to > see > > > > when > > > > > > > Saturn's > > > > > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I > > should be > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses, > > though. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > sharing the quiz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun > > > > transitted in > > > > > > > Cp > > > > > > > > > rasi > > > > > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, 78E02 > > > > (India). > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I have > seen > > the > > > > > > > English > > > > > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 > And that brings me to to the question that Satish posed and Ramesh was > confused on how come so many chaps are taking Moderation of Delay ..... > > And so Krushnaji asked me... how come I got moderation of Delay...... > So I told him... Sir... Ju is with Sa.............. (and then I can > hear him going for a small walk... to calm him self lol)..... Dear Ash and members, I read this nice conversation you had with Krushnaji. Thank you for sharing it. Regarding Ju and Sa delays and no-delays I have in front of me an interesting chart. I must confess that it is not an easy chart (at least for me) to analyse regarding marriage. If any of you would like to try, here it is: person is male; 2nd November 1960; 21:52; +1 CET; 18E24 and 45N18. Please try to find if this person is married. If yes, when he married? If not, why not. all the best, and congratulation to all of you who attemted and solve last quiz.... Dadhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Ash, You wrote that the delay got over during Saturn antardasha. How did you calculate it? Ramesh wrote that the delay got over when Saturn entered Leo on 19th Oct, 2006 - during Mercury antardasha. NS , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Group, > > I want to thank NS for putting this quiz up for the list members who > have taken part zestfully. > > I showed this chart to Krushanji and asked him to time it and he came > to Mercury antra and 2nd sector.... surprise surprise... lol... > > So, I asked Krushnaji, how come you came to Merucry antra. I asked > him, I had picked Saturn antra in Venus MD, and he asked me how I > selected Sa with ????????????????? > > So I told him, Sir, > > 1) There is full delay of Sa > 2) Ju is with Sa so its moderating delay > 3) So delay is getting over in antra of Sa i.e. after moderation and > so Sa is delay causing and LoD so 1st sector. > > and Krushnaji goes.... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm (and I can see him > pulling his hair)..... > > > And that brings me to to the question that Satish posed and Ramesh was > confused on how come so many chaps are taking Moderation of Delay ..... > > And so Krushnaji asked me... how come I got moderation of Delay...... > So I told him... Sir... Ju is with Sa.............. (and then I can > hear him going for a small walk... to calm him self lol)..... > > So, he told me.... how can this be.... what is the meaning of > Samdharmi.... please think over it.... . > > Here Ju cannot check delay of Sa... Ju is with Sa and Sa is delay > causing planet.... so here Ju will not be able to check the delay... > and he told me.. I think I have given this somewhere in lesson or some > mail.... So what Ramesh said is proper. > > Now, so that clarifies the point that Satish raised... and its this > particular point... that I made a mistake in (only shows that I also > must read lessons again), and I think even Manoshi took the same > thing.... and both of us made mistake then. > > So, after that, Ramesh and well done, did not consider moderation > effect and then... picked the strong pdf's after delay got over and > infact came to a FEW DAYS DIFFERENCE from actual event. Kudos... > > Yes, Ramesh, in pressure of making the program I did not read your > mail in great detail but I only saw Nov 2006 portion and did not see > the pdf part that u selected which is right. > > 13 days tolleration we take and marriage also happens as per proper > mahurat so once the time comes then if marriage is in India, you can > select proper pdf based on mahurat also, but that is a different topic. > > If we are able to give certain strong probable dates its good. And > you are right Sa-Su is strong and followed by Sa-Mo which is when > marriage took place. > > So I would say that its an EXACT prediction so congratz. > > Ofcouse, today u are saying in your mail and it made me smile when u > said... " oh ofcouse, after delay is over pick the strong pdf which was > Sa-Su and marriage happens then " - made it sound so simple lol... > > Well.... exactly my friend.. when Tendulkar bats he makes batting look > easy.. .lol.... but its not .... > > Then what Bala told about 2nd sector is also right. > > The only confusing part was the moderation of delay.. if we do not > consider moderation, i think this would be straight forward, just as > Ramesh said.. lol.... > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear ALL, > > Please amend to read Ve is LoE and not LoD as I mentioned in my > > earlier posting.This was a typo.Thanks. > > Ramesh Mishra > > --- In , " aarceemastro2002 " > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash and all members, > > > Thanks to all of you. If you read my postings I said marriage might > > > have happened when Sun transits over Cp rasi and uttarashadh nak. > > > However it is sravan nak ruled by Moon so few days difference. > > > But so many confusion arose while attempting this chart. > > > Everone of you are telling Ju moderates the delay.But according to > > > lesson 33,it is clearly mentioned that Ju cannot moderate the delay > > > when he is with Sa in the same sign.Ju moderates delay only when he > > > aspects Sa but Ju should not be in the sign of Sa,in the nak. of Sa > > > and in the navamsa of Sa. > > > So accepting this rule delay was over on 20 Oct 2006 when Me antara > > > was running.No sooner delay was over the native got married just > > > after 3 month. > > > Is it not amazing ? That is why I had doubt whether the native is > > > still unmarried.When NS informed that the native is married, we > > have > > > to choose the date from Me antara itself. > > > One more question . Why PDF of Sat-Sun did not give marriage.Sun > > gets > > > more points than Mo in WS for 7th house. > > > This all needs to be discussed and checked in more and more charts. > > > As Bala pointed out that in most of the chart Me is found giving > > > marriage in its second sector. > > > Manoshi also pointed out that Me is aspecting house B, he should > > have > > > been discarded for the result of 7th house. > > > I have to say on this point that Me is in Venus navamsa and Ve is > > > LoD.Thus would not Me be SD to Ve? > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > -- In , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group and NS, > > > > > > > > Ramesh predicted Jan 2007 and native married in Feb 2007 so I say > > > its > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > Bala also picked Mercury antra and 2nd sector. > > > > > > > > Harjeet of course got it right. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, contratz to Ramesh, Bala and Harjeet all 3. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. Venus/Mercury > > > period, > > > > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF. > > > > > > > > > > Congratulations Harjeet! > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet > > bakshi " > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's lagna > > to > > > > > change. > > > > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th > > > > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is > > > recorded so > > > > > > taking that into assumption ). > > > > > > so full delay by saturn. > > > > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too. > > > > > > no delays. > > > > > > no blessings. > > > > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn. > > > > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn > > enetered > > > leo > > > > > and > > > > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year. > > > > > > so the native might marry second sector of current antra of > > me > > > which > > > > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and h12. > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > --- In > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in India - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in > > India > > > to > > > > > be > > > > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent to > > the > > > > > > > government for recording? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was born > > > and > > > > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class " > > > economic > > > > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the > > > field, > > > > > > > though - > > > > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her community, > > > girls > > > > > can > > > > > > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age > > till > > > 25 - > > > > > 27 > > > > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a administrative > > > person > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > car dealership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. Satish, > > you > > > > > also > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back > > > ground, > > > > > where > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > she located now means living and as per her community, > > in > > > > > what age > > > > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can > > identify > > > what > > > > > is > > > > > > > > delayed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep > > > > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep > > > > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand the > > > desh, > > > > > kaal > > > > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, where > > the > > > > > native > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a > > > significant > > > > > role. > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also for > > > > > girls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations and > > > > > choosing > > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We are > > also > > > > > taking > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if delay of > > > > > Saturn is > > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to > > find > > > > > > > moderation > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly. > > > > > > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age of 16 > > > or 15 > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not work to > > > the > > > > > > > exact. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind and > > > > > applied > > > > > > > > based > > > > > > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where is > > > Gita? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, and > > try > > > to > > > > > solve > > > > > > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, Ramesh, > > > > > Bala. > > > > > > > Only > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis / > > > attempt, I > > > > > will > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > out the answer sooner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your > > quiz, > > > and > > > > > > > > realized > > > > > > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn (to > > see > > > > > when > > > > > > > > Saturn's > > > > > > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I > > > should be > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses, > > > though. > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > sharing the quiz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > > > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun > > > > > transitted in > > > > > > > > Cp > > > > > > > > > > rasi > > > > > > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara. > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, 78E02 > > > > > (India). > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I have > > seen > > > the > > > > > > > > English > > > > > > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Dear NS, I am talking about delay getting over and then moderation due to Ju and hence I selected Sa antra in Ve MD. Ramesh is right, if u do not consider moderation then delay of Sa gets over on 19th Oct 2006. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " nirvana_seeker3 " <nirvana_seeker3 wrote: > > Ash, > > You wrote that the delay got over during Saturn antardasha. How did > you calculate it? Ramesh wrote that the delay got over when Saturn > entered Leo on 19th Oct, 2006 - during Mercury antardasha. > > NS > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > I want to thank NS for putting this quiz up for the list members who > > have taken part zestfully. > > > > I showed this chart to Krushanji and asked him to time it and he > came > > to Mercury antra and 2nd sector.... surprise surprise... lol... > > > > So, I asked Krushnaji, how come you came to Merucry antra. I asked > > him, I had picked Saturn antra in Venus MD, and he asked me how I > > selected Sa with ????????????????? > > > > So I told him, Sir, > > > > 1) There is full delay of Sa > > 2) Ju is with Sa so its moderating delay > > 3) So delay is getting over in antra of Sa i.e. after moderation and > > so Sa is delay causing and LoD so 1st sector. > > > > and Krushnaji goes.... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm (and I can see > him > > pulling his hair)..... > > > > > > And that brings me to to the question that Satish posed and Ramesh > was > > confused on how come so many chaps are taking Moderation of > Delay ..... > > > > And so Krushnaji asked me... how come I got moderation of > Delay...... > > So I told him... Sir... Ju is with Sa.............. (and then I can > > hear him going for a small walk... to calm him self lol)..... > > > > So, he told me.... how can this be.... what is the meaning of > > Samdharmi.... please think over it.... . > > > > Here Ju cannot check delay of Sa... Ju is with Sa and Sa is delay > > causing planet.... so here Ju will not be able to check the delay... > > and he told me.. I think I have given this somewhere in lesson or > some > > mail.... So what Ramesh said is proper. > > > > Now, so that clarifies the point that Satish raised... and its this > > particular point... that I made a mistake in (only shows that I also > > must read lessons again), and I think even Manoshi took the same > > thing.... and both of us made mistake then. > > > > So, after that, Ramesh and well done, did not consider moderation > > effect and then... picked the strong pdf's after delay got over and > > infact came to a FEW DAYS DIFFERENCE from actual event. Kudos... > > > > Yes, Ramesh, in pressure of making the program I did not read your > > mail in great detail but I only saw Nov 2006 portion and did not see > > the pdf part that u selected which is right. > > > > 13 days tolleration we take and marriage also happens as per proper > > mahurat so once the time comes then if marriage is in India, you can > > select proper pdf based on mahurat also, but that is a different > topic. > > > > If we are able to give certain strong probable dates its good. And > > you are right Sa-Su is strong and followed by Sa-Mo which is when > > marriage took place. > > > > So I would say that its an EXACT prediction so congratz. > > > > Ofcouse, today u are saying in your mail and it made me smile when u > > said... " oh ofcouse, after delay is over pick the strong pdf which > was > > Sa-Su and marriage happens then " - made it sound so simple lol... > > > > Well.... exactly my friend.. when Tendulkar bats he makes batting > look > > easy.. .lol.... but its not .... > > > > Then what Bala told about 2nd sector is also right. > > > > The only confusing part was the moderation of delay.. if we do not > > consider moderation, i think this would be straight forward, just as > > Ramesh said.. lol.... > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear ALL, > > > Please amend to read Ve is LoE and not LoD as I mentioned in my > > > earlier posting.This was a typo.Thanks. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > --- In > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all members, > > > > Thanks to all of you. If you read my postings I said marriage > might > > > > have happened when Sun transits over Cp rasi and uttarashadh > nak. > > > > However it is sravan nak ruled by Moon so few days difference. > > > > But so many confusion arose while attempting this chart. > > > > Everone of you are telling Ju moderates the delay.But according > to > > > > lesson 33,it is clearly mentioned that Ju cannot moderate the > delay > > > > when he is with Sa in the same sign.Ju moderates delay only > when he > > > > aspects Sa but Ju should not be in the sign of Sa,in the nak. > of Sa > > > > and in the navamsa of Sa. > > > > So accepting this rule delay was over on 20 Oct 2006 when Me > antara > > > > was running.No sooner delay was over the native got married > just > > > > after 3 month. > > > > Is it not amazing ? That is why I had doubt whether the native > is > > > > still unmarried.When NS informed that the native is married, we > > > have > > > > to choose the date from Me antara itself. > > > > One more question . Why PDF of Sat-Sun did not give > marriage.Sun > > > gets > > > > more points than Mo in WS for 7th house. > > > > This all needs to be discussed and checked in more and more > charts. > > > > As Bala pointed out that in most of the chart Me is found > giving > > > > marriage in its second sector. > > > > Manoshi also pointed out that Me is aspecting house B, he > should > > > have > > > > been discarded for the result of 7th house. > > > > I have to say on this point that Me is in Venus navamsa and Ve > is > > > > LoD.Thus would not Me be SD to Ve? > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > -- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group and NS, > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh predicted Jan 2007 and native married in Feb 2007 so I > say > > > > its > > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > Bala also picked Mercury antra and 2nd sector. > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet of course got it right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, contratz to Ramesh, Bala and Harjeet all 3. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. > Venus/Mercury > > > > period, > > > > > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congratulations Harjeet! > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet > > > bakshi " > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's > lagna > > > to > > > > > > change. > > > > > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th > > > > > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is > > > > recorded so > > > > > > > taking that into assumption ). > > > > > > > so full delay by saturn. > > > > > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too. > > > > > > > no delays. > > > > > > > no blessings. > > > > > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn. > > > > > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn > > > enetered > > > > leo > > > > > > and > > > > > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year. > > > > > > > so the native might marry second sector of current antra > of > > > me > > > > which > > > > > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and > h12. > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in > India - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in > > > India > > > > to > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent > to > > > the > > > > > > > > government for recording? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was > born > > > > and > > > > > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class " > > > > economic > > > > > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the > > > > field, > > > > > > > > though - > > > > > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her > community, > > > > girls > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age > > > till > > > > 25 - > > > > > > 27 > > > > > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a > administrative > > > > person > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > car dealership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. > Satish, > > > you > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not > matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back > > > > ground, > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > she located now means living and as per her > community, > > > in > > > > > > what age > > > > > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can > > > identify > > > > what > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > delayed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand > the > > > > desh, > > > > > > kaal > > > > > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, > where > > > the > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a > > > > significant > > > > > > role. > > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also > for > > > > > > girls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations > and > > > > > > choosing > > > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We > are > > > also > > > > > > taking > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if > delay of > > > > > > Saturn is > > > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to > > > find > > > > > > > > moderation > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly. > > > > > > > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age > of 16 > > > > or 15 > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not > work to > > > > the > > > > > > > > exact. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind > and > > > > > > applied > > > > > > > > > based > > > > > > > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where > is > > > > Gita? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, > and > > > try > > > > to > > > > > > solve > > > > > > > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, > Ramesh, > > > > > > Bala. > > > > > > > > Only > > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis / > > > > attempt, I > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > out the answer sooner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your > > > quiz, > > > > and > > > > > > > > > realized > > > > > > > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn > (to > > > see > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > Saturn's > > > > > > > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I > > > > should be > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses, > > > > though. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > sharing the quiz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > > > > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun > > > > > > transitted in > > > > > > > > > Cp > > > > > > > > > > > rasi > > > > > > > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, > 78E02 > > > > > > (India). > > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I > have > > > seen > > > > the > > > > > > > > > English > > > > > > > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 The question then is - if the delay got over during Mercury antardasha, how come this same dasha gave marriage. Shouldn't the next antardasha give marriage? NS , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear NS, > I am talking about delay getting over and then moderation due to Ju > and hence I selected Sa antra in Ve MD. > Ramesh is right, if u do not consider moderation then delay of Sa > gets over on 19th Oct 2006. > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > Ash, > > > > You wrote that the delay got over during Saturn antardasha. How did > > you calculate it? Ramesh wrote that the delay got over when Saturn > > entered Leo on 19th Oct, 2006 - during Mercury antardasha. > > > > NS > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > I want to thank NS for putting this quiz up for the list members who > > > have taken part zestfully. > > > > > > I showed this chart to Krushanji and asked him to time it and he > > came > > > to Mercury antra and 2nd sector.... surprise surprise... lol... > > > > > > So, I asked Krushnaji, how come you came to Merucry antra. I asked > > > him, I had picked Saturn antra in Venus MD, and he asked me how I > > > selected Sa with ????????????????? > > > > > > So I told him, Sir, > > > > > > 1) There is full delay of Sa > > > 2) Ju is with Sa so its moderating delay > > > 3) So delay is getting over in antra of Sa i.e. after moderation and > > > so Sa is delay causing and LoD so 1st sector. > > > > > > and Krushnaji goes.... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm (and I can see > > him > > > pulling his hair)..... > > > > > > > > > And that brings me to to the question that Satish posed and Ramesh > > was > > > confused on how come so many chaps are taking Moderation of > > Delay ..... > > > > > > And so Krushnaji asked me... how come I got moderation of > > Delay...... > > > So I told him... Sir... Ju is with Sa.............. (and then I can > > > hear him going for a small walk... to calm him self lol)..... > > > > > > So, he told me.... how can this be.... what is the meaning of > > > Samdharmi.... please think over it.... . > > > > > > Here Ju cannot check delay of Sa... Ju is with Sa and Sa is delay > > > causing planet.... so here Ju will not be able to check the delay... > > > and he told me.. I think I have given this somewhere in lesson or > > some > > > mail.... So what Ramesh said is proper. > > > > > > Now, so that clarifies the point that Satish raised... and its this > > > particular point... that I made a mistake in (only shows that I also > > > must read lessons again), and I think even Manoshi took the same > > > thing.... and both of us made mistake then. > > > > > > So, after that, Ramesh and well done, did not consider moderation > > > effect and then... picked the strong pdf's after delay got over and > > > infact came to a FEW DAYS DIFFERENCE from actual event. Kudos... > > > > > > Yes, Ramesh, in pressure of making the program I did not read your > > > mail in great detail but I only saw Nov 2006 portion and did not see > > > the pdf part that u selected which is right. > > > > > > 13 days tolleration we take and marriage also happens as per proper > > > mahurat so once the time comes then if marriage is in India, you can > > > select proper pdf based on mahurat also, but that is a different > > topic. > > > > > > If we are able to give certain strong probable dates its good. And > > > you are right Sa-Su is strong and followed by Sa-Mo which is when > > > marriage took place. > > > > > > So I would say that its an EXACT prediction so congratz. > > > > > > Ofcouse, today u are saying in your mail and it made me smile when u > > > said... " oh ofcouse, after delay is over pick the strong pdf which > > was > > > Sa-Su and marriage happens then " - made it sound so simple lol... > > > > > > Well.... exactly my friend.. when Tendulkar bats he makes batting > > look > > > easy.. .lol.... but its not .... > > > > > > Then what Bala told about 2nd sector is also right. > > > > > > The only confusing part was the moderation of delay.. if we do not > > > consider moderation, i think this would be straight forward, just as > > > Ramesh said.. lol.... > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > --- In , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear ALL, > > > > Please amend to read Ve is LoE and not LoD as I mentioned in my > > > > earlier posting.This was a typo.Thanks. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > --- In > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all members, > > > > > Thanks to all of you. If you read my postings I said marriage > > might > > > > > have happened when Sun transits over Cp rasi and uttarashadh > > nak. > > > > > However it is sravan nak ruled by Moon so few days difference. > > > > > But so many confusion arose while attempting this chart. > > > > > Everone of you are telling Ju moderates the delay.But according > > to > > > > > lesson 33,it is clearly mentioned that Ju cannot moderate the > > delay > > > > > when he is with Sa in the same sign.Ju moderates delay only > > when he > > > > > aspects Sa but Ju should not be in the sign of Sa,in the nak. > > of Sa > > > > > and in the navamsa of Sa. > > > > > So accepting this rule delay was over on 20 Oct 2006 when Me > > antara > > > > > was running.No sooner delay was over the native got married > > just > > > > > after 3 month. > > > > > Is it not amazing ? That is why I had doubt whether the native > > is > > > > > still unmarried.When NS informed that the native is married, we > > > > have > > > > > to choose the date from Me antara itself. > > > > > One more question . Why PDF of Sat-Sun did not give > > marriage.Sun > > > > gets > > > > > more points than Mo in WS for 7th house. > > > > > This all needs to be discussed and checked in more and more > > charts. > > > > > As Bala pointed out that in most of the chart Me is found > > giving > > > > > marriage in its second sector. > > > > > Manoshi also pointed out that Me is aspecting house B, he > > should > > > > have > > > > > been discarded for the result of 7th house. > > > > > I have to say on this point that Me is in Venus navamsa and Ve > > is > > > > > LoD.Thus would not Me be SD to Ve? > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > -- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group and NS, > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh predicted Jan 2007 and native married in Feb 2007 so I > > say > > > > > its > > > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bala also picked Mercury antra and 2nd sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet of course got it right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, contratz to Ramesh, Bala and Harjeet all 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. > > Venus/Mercury > > > > > period, > > > > > > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congratulations Harjeet! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " harjeet > > > > bakshi " > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > > > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's > > lagna > > > > to > > > > > > > change. > > > > > > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th > > > > > > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is > > > > > recorded so > > > > > > > > taking that into assumption ). > > > > > > > > so full delay by saturn. > > > > > > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too. > > > > > > > > no delays. > > > > > > > > no blessings. > > > > > > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn. > > > > > > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn > > > > enetered > > > > > leo > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year. > > > > > > > > so the native might marry second sector of current antra > > of > > > > me > > > > > which > > > > > > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and > > h12. > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in > > India - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in > > > > India > > > > > to > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent > > to > > > > the > > > > > > > > > government for recording? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was > > born > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class " > > > > > economic > > > > > > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the > > > > > field, > > > > > > > > > though - > > > > > > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her > > community, > > > > > girls > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age > > > > till > > > > > 25 - > > > > > > > 27 > > > > > > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a > > administrative > > > > > person > > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > > car dealership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. > > Satish, > > > > you > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not > > matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back > > > > > ground, > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > she located now means living and as per her > > community, > > > > in > > > > > > > what age > > > > > > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can > > > > identify > > > > > what > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > delayed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand > > the > > > > > desh, > > > > > > > kaal > > > > > > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, > > where > > > > the > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a > > > > > significant > > > > > > > role. > > > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also > > for > > > > > > > girls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations > > and > > > > > > > choosing > > > > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We > > are > > > > also > > > > > > > taking > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if > > delay of > > > > > > > Saturn is > > > > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to > > > > find > > > > > > > > > moderation > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly. > > > > > > > > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age > > of 16 > > > > > or 15 > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not > > work to > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > exact. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind > > and > > > > > > > applied > > > > > > > > > > based > > > > > > > > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where > > is > > > > > Gita? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, > > and > > > > try > > > > > to > > > > > > > solve > > > > > > > > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, > > Ramesh, > > > > > > > Bala. > > > > > > > > > Only > > > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis / > > > > > attempt, I > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > > out the answer sooner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your > > > > quiz, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > realized > > > > > > > > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn > > (to > > > > see > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > Saturn's > > > > > > > > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I > > > > > should be > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses, > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > sharing the quiz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun > > > > > > > transitted in > > > > > > > > > > Cp > > > > > > > > > > > > rasi > > > > > > > > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, > > 78E02 > > > > > > > (India). > > > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I > > have > > > > seen > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > English > > > > > > > > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Dear NS, Refer to Bala's mail. He has already replied to this. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca nirvana_seeker3 <nirvana_seeker3 wrote: The question then is - if the delay got over during Mercury antardasha, how come this same dasha gave marriage. Shouldn't the next antardasha give marriage? NS , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear NS, > I am talking about delay getting over and then moderation due to Ju > and hence I selected Sa antra in Ve MD. > Ramesh is right, if u do not consider moderation then delay of Sa > gets over on 19th Oct 2006. > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > Ash, > > > > You wrote that the delay got over during Saturn antardasha. How did > > you calculate it? Ramesh wrote that the delay got over when Saturn > > entered Leo on 19th Oct, 2006 - during Mercury antardasha. > > > > NS > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > I want to thank NS for putting this quiz up for the list members who > > > have taken part zestfully. > > > > > > I showed this chart to Krushanji and asked him to time it and he > > came > > > to Mercury antra and 2nd sector.... surprise surprise... lol... > > > > > > So, I asked Krushnaji, how come you came to Merucry antra. I asked > > > him, I had picked Saturn antra in Venus MD, and he asked me how I > > > selected Sa with ????????????????? > > > > > > So I told him, Sir, > > > > > > 1) There is full delay of Sa > > > 2) Ju is with Sa so its moderating delay > > > 3) So delay is getting over in antra of Sa i.e. after moderation and > > > so Sa is delay causing and LoD so 1st sector. > > > > > > and Krushnaji goes.... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm (and I can see > > him > > > pulling his hair)..... > > > > > > > > > And that brings me to to the question that Satish posed and Ramesh > > was > > > confused on how come so many chaps are taking Moderation of > > Delay ..... > > > > > > And so Krushnaji asked me... how come I got moderation of > > Delay...... > > > So I told him... Sir... Ju is with Sa.............. (and then I can > > > hear him going for a small walk... to calm him self lol)..... > > > > > > So, he told me.... how can this be.... what is the meaning of > > > Samdharmi.... please think over it.... . > > > > > > Here Ju cannot check delay of Sa... Ju is with Sa and Sa is delay > > > causing planet.... so here Ju will not be able to check the delay... > > > and he told me.. I think I have given this somewhere in lesson or > > some > > > mail.... So what Ramesh said is proper. > > > > > > Now, so that clarifies the point that Satish raised... and its this > > > particular point... that I made a mistake in (only shows that I also > > > must read lessons again), and I think even Manoshi took the same > > > thing.... and both of us made mistake then. > > > > > > So, after that, Ramesh and well done, did not consider moderation > > > effect and then... picked the strong pdf's after delay got over and > > > infact came to a FEW DAYS DIFFERENCE from actual event. Kudos... > > > > > > Yes, Ramesh, in pressure of making the program I did not read your > > > mail in great detail but I only saw Nov 2006 portion and did not see > > > the pdf part that u selected which is right. > > > > > > 13 days tolleration we take and marriage also happens as per proper > > > mahurat so once the time comes then if marriage is in India, you can > > > select proper pdf based on mahurat also, but that is a different > > topic. > > > > > > If we are able to give certain strong probable dates its good. And > > > you are right Sa-Su is strong and followed by Sa-Mo which is when > > > marriage took place. > > > > > > So I would say that its an EXACT prediction so congratz. > > > > > > Ofcouse, today u are saying in your mail and it made me smile when u > > > said... " oh ofcouse, after delay is over pick the strong pdf which > > was > > > Sa-Su and marriage happens then " - made it sound so simple lol... > > > > > > Well.... exactly my friend.. when Tendulkar bats he makes batting > > look > > > easy.. .lol.... but its not .... > > > > > > Then what Bala told about 2nd sector is also right. > > > > > > The only confusing part was the moderation of delay.. if we do not > > > consider moderation, i think this would be straight forward, just as > > > Ramesh said.. lol.... > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > --- In , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear ALL, > > > > Please amend to read Ve is LoE and not LoD as I mentioned in my > > > > earlier posting.This was a typo.Thanks. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > --- In > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all members, > > > > > Thanks to all of you. If you read my postings I said marriage > > might > > > > > have happened when Sun transits over Cp rasi and uttarashadh > > nak. > > > > > However it is sravan nak ruled by Moon so few days difference. > > > > > But so many confusion arose while attempting this chart. > > > > > Everone of you are telling Ju moderates the delay.But according > > to > > > > > lesson 33,it is clearly mentioned that Ju cannot moderate the > > delay > > > > > when he is with Sa in the same sign.Ju moderates delay only > > when he > > > > > aspects Sa but Ju should not be in the sign of Sa,in the nak. > > of Sa > > > > > and in the navamsa of Sa. > > > > > So accepting this rule delay was over on 20 Oct 2006 when Me > > antara > > > > > was running.No sooner delay was over the native got married > > just > > > > > after 3 month. > > > > > Is it not amazing ? That is why I had doubt whether the native > > is > > > > > still unmarried.When NS informed that the native is married, we > > > > have > > > > > to choose the date from Me antara itself. > > > > > One more question . Why PDF of Sat-Sun did not give > > marriage.Sun > > > > gets > > > > > more points than Mo in WS for 7th house. > > > > > This all needs to be discussed and checked in more and more > > charts. > > > > > As Bala pointed out that in most of the chart Me is found > > giving > > > > > marriage in its second sector. > > > > > Manoshi also pointed out that Me is aspecting house B, he > > should > > > > have > > > > > been discarded for the result of 7th house. > > > > > I have to say on this point that Me is in Venus navamsa and Ve > > is > > > > > LoD.Thus would not Me be SD to Ve? > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > -- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group and NS, > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh predicted Jan 2007 and native married in Feb 2007 so I > > say > > > > > its > > > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bala also picked Mercury antra and 2nd sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet of course got it right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, contratz to Ramesh, Bala and Harjeet all 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This person got married on 5th February, 2007. > > Venus/Mercury > > > > > period, > > > > > > > second sector, saturn/moon PDF. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congratulations Harjeet! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " harjeet > > > > bakshi " > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > > > > > the lagna is 23sc47. on the edge for navamsa kundli's > > lagna > > > > to > > > > > > > change. > > > > > > > > so taking time 7:05 instead of 7:08 i get saturn in 5th > > > > > > > > navamsa.(generally the baby is born and then the time is > > > > > recorded so > > > > > > > > taking that into assumption ). > > > > > > > > so full delay by saturn. > > > > > > > > jupiter in rasi dealys too. > > > > > > > > no delays. > > > > > > > > no blessings. > > > > > > > > jupiter with saturn checks delay of saturn. > > > > > > > > delay of saturn and jupiter both got over when saturn > > > > enetered > > > > > leo > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > jupiter scorpio sometime last year. > > > > > > > > so the native might marry second sector of current antra > > of > > > > me > > > > > which > > > > > > > > is having 13 points for h7 and less than 12 for h5 and > > h12. > > > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > > > > > > harjeet > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For list members who live in India, or grew up in > > India - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How common is it for the official birth certificates in > > > > India > > > > > to > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > wrong? Do hospitals have birth records that are sent > > to > > > > the > > > > > > > > > government for recording? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This person lives in India (same town where she was > > born > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > raised). Belongs to a brahmin family, " middle class " > > > > > economic > > > > > > > > > > strata, has completed her Bachelors (I don't know the > > > > > field, > > > > > > > > > though - > > > > > > > > > > I assume economics, commerce etc.). In her > > community, > > > > > girls > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > generally get married anywhere between 18years of age > > > > till > > > > > 25 - > > > > > > > 27 > > > > > > > > > > years of age. She currently works as a > > administrative > > > > > person > > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > > car dealership. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > > > > Even Satish is working hard in learning KAS. > > Satish, > > > > you > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > try > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > attempt this quiz, right or wrong it does not > > matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS, please give this lady's education, family back > > > > > ground, > > > > > > > where > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > she located now means living and as per her > > community, > > > > in > > > > > > > what age > > > > > > > > > > > range do girls GENERALLY get married, so we can > > > > identify > > > > > what > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > delayed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My initial instincts was that its Sa antra and 1st > > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Ve 30-Aug thru 12-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su and Su 13-Sep thru 15-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me and Su 16-Sep thru 26-Sep > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As an additional note, its important to understand > > the > > > > > desh, > > > > > > > kaal > > > > > > > > > > > paatra principle of where the native is living, > > where > > > > the > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > brought up, the community (if in India) play a > > > > > significant > > > > > > > role. > > > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > > > > some communities, delayed marriage is 25 years also > > for > > > > > > > girls. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we are just going straight by our calculations > > and > > > > > > > choosing > > > > > > > > > 18 > > > > > > > > > > > years as the minimum legal age for marriage. We > > are > > > > also > > > > > > > taking > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > moderation 18 years as the base for example if > > delay of > > > > > > > Saturn is > > > > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > > > at 26 years of age and Jupiter moderates it then to > > > > find > > > > > > > > > moderation > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > take (26 + 18 [legal age]) / 2 = 22 years roughly. > > > > > > > > > > > In some communities, girls are married at the age > > of 16 > > > > > or 15 > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > in that case, our laws for moderation might not > > work to > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > exact. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So such things must be kept in the back of the mind > > and > > > > > > > applied > > > > > > > > > > based > > > > > > > > > > > on desh, kaal paatra principle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope, others also take part in this quiz. Where > > is > > > > > Gita? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those list members who are active on the list, > > and > > > > try > > > > > to > > > > > > > solve > > > > > > > > > > > > quizzes have posted their analyses - Manoshi, > > Ramesh, > > > > > > > Bala. > > > > > > > > > Only > > > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > left is Harjeet. If he/she post any analysis / > > > > > attempt, I > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > > out the answer sooner. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s. Manoshi, I went back to my analysis of your > > > > quiz, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > realized > > > > > > > > > > > > that I had mis-calculated the transit of Saturn > > (to > > > > see > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > Saturn's > > > > > > > > > > > > delay was over), and that made the difference. I > > > > > should be > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > careful in calculating these things. No excuses, > > > > > though. > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > sharing the quiz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " aarceemastro2002 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear NS, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did she marry in the month of Jan 2007 when Sun > > > > > > > transitted in > > > > > > > > > > Cp > > > > > > > > > > > > rasi > > > > > > > > > > > > > and uttarashadh nak.in the Me antara. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " nirvana_seeker3 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <nirvana_seeker3@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is another quiz - time the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Female, 8th December, 1980, 7:08AM, 30N19, > > 78E02 > > > > > > > (India). > > > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > > birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > details are from her birth certificate (I > > have > > > > seen > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > English > > > > > > > > > > > > > > translation of the birth certificate). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Answers will be posted in a week's time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Need Mail bonding? 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Guest guest Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 > And that brings me to to the question that Satish posed and Ramesh was > confused on how come so many chaps are taking Moderation of Delay ..... > > And so Krushnaji asked me... how come I got moderation of Delay...... > So I told him... Sir... Ju is with Sa.............. (and then I can > hear him going for a small walk... to calm him self lol)..... Dear Ash and members, I read this nice conversation you had with Krushnaji. Thank you for sharing it. Regarding Ju and Sa delays and no-delays I have in front of me an interesting chart. I must confess that it is not an easy chart (at least for me) to analyse regarding marriage. If any of you would like to try, here it is: person is male; 2nd November 1960; 21:52; +1 CET; 18E24 and 45N18. Please try to find if this person is married. If yes, when he married? If not, why not. all the best, and congratulation to all of you who attemted and solve last quiz.... Dadhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Dear Dadhi, Good to hear from you. Yes, this is a difficult chart. This person himself does not seem to be interested in maritial life. He also might have traveled aborad, and in the least he might have lived away from his father. This chart is special, as there is also a blessing in this chart however it is making this blessing with 6th lord who is Jupiter. Overall all points are less in this chart for 7th house. On top of that Jupiter is the 6th lord and its in 6th house and its malefically aspecting 2nd house and 7th lord, so this thing might depart the native from his spouse too. Again 7th lord is in 6th house and its with 6th lord. Venus is SD to Saturn. Me, who is LoE is SD to Ju who is 6th lord so again its disturbing that, Difference between lagna and 7th is also very high, 34 / 19 so difference of 15 points means about 45% approximately. Ve is also in jayeshta nakshtra. So, as per what I can judge is that this person is not interested in maritial relation at all. If he is married, then he might also live away from his wife or this marriage will be only in the name sake for society. This person also might be changing jobs often but he will have good name and good personality so he can impress people. He also might have a good built in physique and impressive personality. However, considering all these facts, and if blessing works he will marry and marriage it will be around 22 year to 23 year of age or in moon antra in Sun MD. Otherwise, if blessings do not work, then will not marry. Maritial harmony is not there in this chart. So if there is marriage it will be for name sake only. What are the facts? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Dadhi " <dadhi wrote: > > > > And that brings me to to the question that Satish posed and Ramesh was > > confused on how come so many chaps are taking Moderation of Delay ...... > > > > And so Krushnaji asked me... how come I got moderation of Delay...... > > So I told him... Sir... Ju is with Sa.............. (and then I can > > hear him going for a small walk... to calm him self lol)..... > > > Dear Ash and members, > > I read this nice conversation you had with Krushnaji. Thank you for sharing it. > > Regarding Ju and Sa delays and no-delays I have in front of me an interesting chart. > I must confess that it is not an easy chart (at least for me) to analyse regarding marriage. If any of you would like to try, here it is: > > person is male; 2nd November 1960; 21:52; +1 CET; 18E24 and 45N18. > > Please try to find if this person is married. If yes, when he married? If not, why not. > > all the best, and congratulation to all of you who attemted and solve last quiz.... > Dadhi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 > What are the facts? Dear Ash, Thank you for your valuable time. You are mostly right. He is not married, travels abroad, lives abroad etc. He is interested to get married, but not so much strenght of will (or desire) to do it. A kind of subconciouss fear as far as I can see. Everthing you said about physique and personality is true. > Otherwise, if blessings do not work, then will not marry. Maritial > harmony is not there in this chart. So if there is marriage it will > be for name sake only. Thanks for that observation. all the best, Dadhi --\ ---------- > Dear Dadhi, > Good to hear from you. Yes, this is a difficult chart. This person > himself does not seem to be interested in maritial life. He also > might have traveled aborad, and in the least he might have lived away > from his father. > > This chart is special, as there is also a blessing in this chart > however it is making this blessing with 6th lord who is Jupiter. > > Overall all points are less in this chart for 7th house. On top of > that Jupiter is the 6th lord and its in 6th house and its malefically > aspecting 2nd house and 7th lord, so this thing might depart the > native from his spouse too. Again 7th lord is in 6th house and its > with 6th lord. Venus is SD to Saturn. Me, who is LoE is SD to Ju who > is 6th lord so again its disturbing that, Difference between lagna and > 7th is also very high, 34 / 19 so difference of 15 points means about > 45% approximately. Ve is also in jayeshta nakshtra. > > So, as per what I can judge is that this person is not interested in > maritial relation at all. If he is married, then he might also live > away from his wife or this marriage will be only in the name sake for > society. This person also might be changing jobs often but he will > have good name and good personality so he can impress people. > > He also might have a good built in physique and impressive personality. > > However, considering all these facts, and if blessing works he will > marry and marriage it will be around 22 year to 23 year of age or in > moon antra in Sun MD. > > Otherwise, if blessings do not work, then will not marry. Maritial > harmony is not there in this chart. So if there is marriage it will > be for name sake only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 > What are the facts? Dear Ash, Thank you for your valuable time. You are mostly right. He is not married, travels abroad, lives abroad etc. He is interested to get married, but not so much strenght of will (or desire) to do it. A kind of subconciouss fear as far as I can see. Everthing you said about physique and personality is true. > Otherwise, if blessings do not work, then will not marry. Maritial > harmony is not there in this chart. So if there is marriage it will > be for name sake only. Thanks for that observation. all the best, Dadhi --\ ---------- > Dear Dadhi, > Good to hear from you. Yes, this is a difficult chart. This person > himself does not seem to be interested in maritial life. He also > might have traveled aborad, and in the least he might have lived away > from his father. > > This chart is special, as there is also a blessing in this chart > however it is making this blessing with 6th lord who is Jupiter. > > Overall all points are less in this chart for 7th house. On top of > that Jupiter is the 6th lord and its in 6th house and its malefically > aspecting 2nd house and 7th lord, so this thing might depart the > native from his spouse too. Again 7th lord is in 6th house and its > with 6th lord. Venus is SD to Saturn. Me, who is LoE is SD to Ju who > is 6th lord so again its disturbing that, Difference between lagna and > 7th is also very high, 34 / 19 so difference of 15 points means about > 45% approximately. Ve is also in jayeshta nakshtra. > > So, as per what I can judge is that this person is not interested in > maritial relation at all. If he is married, then he might also live > away from his wife or this marriage will be only in the name sake for > society. This person also might be changing jobs often but he will > have good name and good personality so he can impress people. > > He also might have a good built in physique and impressive personality. > > However, considering all these facts, and if blessing works he will > marry and marriage it will be around 22 year to 23 year of age or in > moon antra in Sun MD. > > Otherwise, if blessings do not work, then will not marry. Maritial > harmony is not there in this chart. So if there is marriage it will > be for name sake only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Resp Ashji, is there any other reason than the ones u stated for the native to live away from his spouse ?(venus in jayeshta, low points for 7th house in worksheet for all planets except venus, lord of 7th in 6th with 6th etc ) how did u guess he would have frequent job changes? thanks/regards harjeet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Dadhi, > Good to hear from you. Yes, this is a difficult chart. This person > himself does not seem to be interested in maritial life. He also > might have traveled aborad, and in the least he might have lived away > from his father. > > This chart is special, as there is also a blessing in this chart > however it is making this blessing with 6th lord who is Jupiter. > > Overall all points are less in this chart for 7th house. On top of > that Jupiter is the 6th lord and its in 6th house and its malefically > aspecting 2nd house and 7th lord, so this thing might depart the > native from his spouse too. Again 7th lord is in 6th house and its > with 6th lord. Venus is SD to Saturn. Me, who is LoE is SD to Ju who > is 6th lord so again its disturbing that, Difference between lagna and > 7th is also very high, 34 / 19 so difference of 15 points means about > 45% approximately. Ve is also in jayeshta nakshtra. > > So, as per what I can judge is that this person is not interested in > maritial relation at all. If he is married, then he might also live > away from his wife or this marriage will be only in the name sake for > society. This person also might be changing jobs often but he will > have good name and good personality so he can impress people. > > He also might have a good built in physique and impressive personality. > > However, considering all these facts, and if blessing works he will > marry and marriage it will be around 22 year to 23 year of age or in > moon antra in Sun MD. > > Otherwise, if blessings do not work, then will not marry. Maritial > harmony is not there in this chart. So if there is marriage it will > be for name sake only. > > What are the facts? > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > , " Dadhi " <dadhi@> > wrote: > > > > > > > And that brings me to to the question that Satish posed and Ramesh was > > > confused on how come so many chaps are taking Moderation of Delay > ..... > > > > > > And so Krushnaji asked me... how come I got moderation of Delay...... > > > So I told him... Sir... Ju is with Sa.............. (and then I can > > > hear him going for a small walk... to calm him self lol)..... > > > > > > Dear Ash and members, > > > > I read this nice conversation you had with Krushnaji. Thank you for > sharing it. > > > > Regarding Ju and Sa delays and no-delays I have in front of me an > interesting chart. > > I must confess that it is not an easy chart (at least for me) to > analyse regarding marriage. If any of you would like to try, here it is: > > > > person is male; 2nd November 1960; 21:52; +1 CET; 18E24 and 45N18. > > > > Please try to find if this person is married. If yes, when he > married? If not, why not. > > > > all the best, and congratulation to all of you who attemted and > solve last quiz.... > > Dadhi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Sir and about living abroad and travels too? thanks/regards harjeet , " Dadhi " <dadhi wrote: > > > > What are the facts? > > > Dear Ash, > > Thank you for your valuable time. You are mostly right. > He is not married, travels abroad, lives abroad etc. > He is interested to get married, but not so much strenght of will (or desire) to do it. > A kind of subconciouss fear as far as I can see. > Everthing you said about physique and personality is true. > > > > Otherwise, if blessings do not work, then will not marry. Maritial > > harmony is not there in this chart. So if there is marriage it will > > be for name sake only. > > > Thanks for that observation. > > all the best, > Dadhi > > > > --\ ---------- > > Dear Dadhi, > > Good to hear from you. Yes, this is a difficult chart. This person > > himself does not seem to be interested in maritial life. He also > > might have traveled aborad, and in the least he might have lived away > > from his father. > > > > This chart is special, as there is also a blessing in this chart > > however it is making this blessing with 6th lord who is Jupiter. > > > > Overall all points are less in this chart for 7th house. On top of > > that Jupiter is the 6th lord and its in 6th house and its malefically > > aspecting 2nd house and 7th lord, so this thing might depart the > > native from his spouse too. Again 7th lord is in 6th house and its > > with 6th lord. Venus is SD to Saturn. Me, who is LoE is SD to Ju who > > is 6th lord so again its disturbing that, Difference between lagna and > > 7th is also very high, 34 / 19 so difference of 15 points means about > > 45% approximately. Ve is also in jayeshta nakshtra. > > > > So, as per what I can judge is that this person is not interested in > > maritial relation at all. If he is married, then he might also live > > away from his wife or this marriage will be only in the name sake for > > society. This person also might be changing jobs often but he will > > have good name and good personality so he can impress people. > > > > He also might have a good built in physique and impressive personality. > > > > However, considering all these facts, and if blessing works he will > > marry and marriage it will be around 22 year to 23 year of age or in > > moon antra in Sun MD. > > > > Otherwise, if blessings do not work, then will not marry. Maritial > > harmony is not there in this chart. So if there is marriage it will > > be for name sake only. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Dear Ash,Dadhi and list members, Thanks Dadhi for bringing this type of chart before the forum.This chart is interesting and educative as well. I was also thinking that the native might be unmarried but in doubt so trying to find out the reason in depth.Meanwhile you disclosed the result. Though I do not have the chart in front of me ,I remember Cn lagna is rising. Ju is the 6th lord in 6th house with 7th lord SA. Ju is also 9th lord.Mo is in 10th house thus making 5:9 combination between lagna lord and 9th lord The native is blessed with father or Guru. I will not repeat what Ash has told but I want to ask that Ju being 9th lord of dharma aspecting lagna lord Mo should promise marriage. But alas! this Ju is in 6th house. In WS all planets for 7th house are below 12 except Ve,So one way I was thinking that native might have married in Ve antara of Su main. Ve is strong in 2nd and 5th house too. But question arises what will happen to the blessings. Lagna lord and its 7th lord are also in 5:9 combination.Rest others are in 6:8. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra , " Dadhi " <dadhi wrote: > > > > > What are the facts? > > > Dear Ash, > > Thank you for your valuable time. You are mostly right. > He is not married, travels abroad, lives abroad etc. > He is interested to get married, but not so much strenght of will (or desire) to do it. > A kind of subconciouss fear as far as I can see. > Everthing you said about physique and personality is true. > > > > Otherwise, if blessings do not work, then will not marry. Maritial > > harmony is not there in this chart. So if there is marriage it will > > be for name sake only. > > > Thanks for that observation. > > all the best, > Dadhi > > > > --\ ---------- > > Dear Dadhi, > > Good to hear from you. Yes, this is a difficult chart. This person > > himself does not seem to be interested in maritial life. He also > > might have traveled aborad, and in the least he might have lived away > > from his father. > > > > This chart is special, as there is also a blessing in this chart > > however it is making this blessing with 6th lord who is Jupiter. > > > > Overall all points are less in this chart for 7th house. On top of > > that Jupiter is the 6th lord and its in 6th house and its malefically > > aspecting 2nd house and 7th lord, so this thing might depart the > > native from his spouse too. Again 7th lord is in 6th house and its > > with 6th lord. Venus is SD to Saturn. Me, who is LoE is SD to Ju who > > is 6th lord so again its disturbing that, Difference between lagna and > > 7th is also very high, 34 / 19 so difference of 15 points means about > > 45% approximately. Ve is also in jayeshta nakshtra. > > > > So, as per what I can judge is that this person is not interested in > > maritial relation at all. If he is married, then he might also live > > away from his wife or this marriage will be only in the name sake for > > society. This person also might be changing jobs often but he will > > have good name and good personality so he can impress people. > > > > He also might have a good built in physique and impressive personality. > > > > However, considering all these facts, and if blessing works he will > > marry and marriage it will be around 22 year to 23 year of age or in > > moon antra in Sun MD. > > > > Otherwise, if blessings do not work, then will not marry. Maritial > > harmony is not there in this chart. So if there is marriage it will > > be for name sake only. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Hello, Ash also mentioned about " Blessing " . What is this blessing ? Is it lagna lord and 9th lord in 5:9 relationship or is this something else? Thanks Satish --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Ash,Dadhi and list members, > Thanks Dadhi for bringing this type of chart before > the forum.This > chart is interesting and educative as well. > I was also thinking that the native might be > unmarried but in doubt so > trying to find out the reason in depth.Meanwhile > you disclosed the > result. > Though I do not have the chart in front of me ,I > remember Cn lagna is > rising. > Ju is the 6th lord in 6th house with 7th lord SA. > Ju is also 9th lord.Mo is in 10th house thus making > 5:9 combination > between lagna lord and 9th lord The native is > blessed with father or Guru. > I will not repeat what Ash has told but I want to > ask that Ju being > 9th lord of dharma aspecting lagna lord Mo should > promise marriage. > But alas! this Ju is in 6th house. > In WS all planets for 7th house are below 12 except > Ve,So one way I > was thinking that native might have married in Ve > antara of Su main. > Ve is strong in 2nd and 5th house too. > But question arises what will happen to the > blessings. > Lagna lord and its 7th lord are also in 5:9 > combination.Rest others > are in 6:8. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > , > " Dadhi " <dadhi > wrote: > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Dear Satish, We havent got a full lesson on Blessings as yet, but yes, when lagna lord is in 5:9 with 9th lord then its a blessing. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Hello, > > Ash also mentioned about " Blessing " . What is this > blessing ? Is it lagna lord and 9th lord in 5:9 > relationship or is this something else? > > Thanks > > Satish > --- aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 > wrote: > > > Dear Ash,Dadhi and list members, > > Thanks Dadhi for bringing this type of chart before > > the forum.This > > chart is interesting and educative as well. > > I was also thinking that the native might be > > unmarried but in doubt so > > trying to find out the reason in depth.Meanwhile > > you disclosed the > > result. > > Though I do not have the chart in front of me ,I > > remember Cn lagna is > > rising. > > Ju is the 6th lord in 6th house with 7th lord SA. > > Ju is also 9th lord.Mo is in 10th house thus making > > 5:9 combination > > between lagna lord and 9th lord The native is > > blessed with father or Guru. > > I will not repeat what Ash has told but I want to > > ask that Ju being > > 9th lord of dharma aspecting lagna lord Mo should > > promise marriage. > > But alas! this Ju is in 6th house. > > In WS all planets for 7th house are below 12 except > > Ve,So one way I > > was thinking that native might have married in Ve > > antara of Su main. > > Ve is strong in 2nd and 5th house too. > > But question arises what will happen to the > > blessings. > > Lagna lord and its 7th lord are also in 5:9 > > combination.Rest others > > are in 6:8. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > , > > " Dadhi " <dadhi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Dear Dadhi and Harjeet, Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash _> http://www.ashtro.ca , " harjeet bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Sir and about living abroad and travels too? > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " Dadhi " <dadhi@> > wrote: > > > > > > > What are the facts? > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Thank you for your valuable time. You are mostly right. > > He is not married, travels abroad, lives abroad etc. > > He is interested to get married, but not so much strenght of will > (or desire) to do it. > > A kind of subconciouss fear as far as I can see. > > Everthing you said about physique and personality is true. > > > > > > > Otherwise, if blessings do not work, then will not marry. Maritial > > > harmony is not there in this chart. So if there is marriage it will > > > be for name sake only. > > > > > > Thanks for that observation. > > > > all the best, > > Dadhi > > > > > > > > > --\ ---------- > > > Dear Dadhi, > > > Good to hear from you. Yes, this is a difficult chart. This person > > > himself does not seem to be interested in maritial life. He also > > > might have traveled aborad, and in the least he might have lived away > > > from his father. > > > > > > This chart is special, as there is also a blessing in this chart > > > however it is making this blessing with 6th lord who is Jupiter. > > > > > > Overall all points are less in this chart for 7th house. On top of > > > that Jupiter is the 6th lord and its in 6th house and its malefically > > > aspecting 2nd house and 7th lord, so this thing might depart the > > > native from his spouse too. Again 7th lord is in 6th house and its > > > with 6th lord. Venus is SD to Saturn. Me, who is LoE is SD to Ju who > > > is 6th lord so again its disturbing that, Difference between lagna and > > > 7th is also very high, 34 / 19 so difference of 15 points means about > > > 45% approximately. Ve is also in jayeshta nakshtra. > > > > > > So, as per what I can judge is that this person is not interested in > > > maritial relation at all. If he is married, then he might also live > > > away from his wife or this marriage will be only in the name sake for > > > society. This person also might be changing jobs often but he will > > > have good name and good personality so he can impress people. > > > > > > He also might have a good built in physique and impressive > personality. > > > > > > However, considering all these facts, and if blessing works he will > > > marry and marriage it will be around 22 year to 23 year of age or in > > > moon antra in Sun MD. > > > > > > Otherwise, if blessings do not work, then will not marry. Maritial > > > harmony is not there in this chart. So if there is marriage it will > > > be for name sake only. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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