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Dear Ash,

 

Thanks for the blog.

 

I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa but has 3 zeros?

 

How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is still not married.

 

Here are the details.

 

Male

24th May 1976

10.20 AM.

Khartoum, Sudan

EET -02.00

15N32

32E32

 

As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma 11 Cn 48

MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn 13 Ra 18 Li 59 Ke

18 Ar 59

 

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Dear Bala,

 

In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra and ve in krittika

too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they are in 1:7 so

having enmity.

 

This person might be " allergic " to authority.

 

In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa and conjoins

Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for regular checkups.

 

He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own business or

eventually do that.

 

This might fit in chart of non marital status.

 

His relationships might not last for long, even if he marries. So if

there is any chance of marriage it might be very delayed in life and

can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for companionship.

 

However I feel this person might not marry, he don't have blessings

either.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

, bala sosale

<bsosale wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

>

> Thanks for the blog.

>

> I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa but has 3 zeros?

>

> How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is still not married.

>

> Here are the details.

>

> Male

> 24th May 1976

> 10.20 AM.

> Khartoum, Sudan

> EET -02.00

> 15N32

> 32E32

>

> As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn 13

Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

>

> Thanks

> Bala

>

>

>

> Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

>

>

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Dear Ash,

 

You staed that:

 

" In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa and conjoins

Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for regular checkups "

 

Please clarify the following points.

 

1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju should be in Libra?

In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted by Sat & Mars.

 

2. How do we find the timing of the " cancer " to come out as disease?

 

3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the body? Is it related to

house, where Ju is situated?

 

Thanks and regards.

 

Sanjiva Sharma

 

trologyandtimingevents

<trologyandtimingevents > , " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Bala,

>

> In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra and ve in krittika

> too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they are in 1:7 so

> having enmity.

>

> This person might be " allergic " to authority.

>

> In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa and conjoins

> Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for regular checkups.

>

> He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own business or

> eventually do that.

>

> This might fit in chart of non marital status.

>

> His relationships might not last for long, even if he marries. So if

> there is any chance of marriage it might be very delayed in life and

> can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for companionship.

>

> However I feel this person might not marry, he don't have blessings

> either.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

>

>

> , bala sosale

> bsosale@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > Thanks for the blog.

> >

> > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa but has 3 zeros?

> >

> > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is still not married.

> >

> > Here are the details.

> >

> > Male

> > 24th May 1976

> > 10.20 AM.

> > Khartoum, Sudan

> > EET -02.00

> > 15N32

> > 32E32

> >

> > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn 13

> Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> >

> > Thanks

> > Bala

> >

> >

> >

> > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

> >

> >

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Dear Ash and Bala,

How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period from 10 Aug

2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve is karak for 4th

house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is 12th lord of B

for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.

Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.

The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highest power with 40

points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.

The 4th house is house of happiness also but this house is afflicted

due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma (2nd and 7th

lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some affliction of

his happiness during this period.

Can you please shed some light on this house ?

This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

, " Sanjiva Sharma "

<sanjiva_sharma wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Ash,

>

> You staed that:

>

> " In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa and

conjoins

> Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for regular

checkups "

>

> Please clarify the following points.

>

> 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju should be in

Libra?

> In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted by Sat &

Mars.

>

> 2. How do we find the timing of the " cancer " to come out as

disease?

>

> 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the body? Is it

related to

> house, where Ju is situated?

>

> Thanks and regards.

>

> Sanjiva Sharma

>

> trologyandtimingevents

> <trologyandtimingevents > , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bala,

> >

> > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra and ve in

krittika

> > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they are in 1:7 so

> > having enmity.

> >

> > This person might be " allergic " to authority.

> >

> > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa and

conjoins

> > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for regular

checkups.

> >

> > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own business or

> > eventually do that.

> >

> > This might fit in chart of non marital status.

> >

> > His relationships might not last for long, even if he marries. So

if

> > there is any chance of marriage it might be very delayed in life

and

> > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for companionship.

> >

> > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't have

blessings

> > either.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , bala sosale

> > bsosale@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > Thanks for the blog.

> > >

> > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa but has 3

zeros?

> > >

> > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is still not

married.

> > >

> > > Here are the details.

> > >

> > > Male

> > > 24th May 1976

> > > 10.20 AM.

> > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > EET -02.00

> > > 15N32

> > > 32E32

> > >

> > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn 13

> > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Bala

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

> > >

> > >

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Dear Ramesh,

 

You have really raised a good question which will help all of us.

 

I will look it into the chart again and send you reply soon.

 

May be others can try also? Harjeet?. I know Ash will reply.

 

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Dear Sanjiva,

Let this topic be for now, till we get an official lesson from Krushnaji.

Hints are given in some charts solved by Krushnaji in the archives. I

think, Sach or Prakash also pointed out someone having blood cancer

and if memory serves me well, there might be some other charts too

solved. Please go through them for now.

 

The purpose of me pointing that out was not to worry anyone, however

there are two types of cancers one is curable and other incurable.

With advances in medical science, if such things are diagonised early

there is good chance of such cancer being treated in timely fashion,

so that is why.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " Sanjiva Sharma "

<sanjiva_sharma wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Ash,

>

> You staed that:

>

> " In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa and conjoins

> Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for regular checkups "

>

> Please clarify the following points.

>

> 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju should be in

Libra?

> In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted by Sat & Mars.

>

> 2. How do we find the timing of the " cancer " to come out as disease?

>

> 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the body? Is it related to

> house, where Ju is situated?

>

> Thanks and regards.

>

> Sanjiva Sharma

>

> trologyandtimingevents

> <trologyandtimingevents > , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bala,

> >

> > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra and ve in krittika

> > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they are in 1:7 so

> > having enmity.

> >

> > This person might be " allergic " to authority.

> >

> > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa and conjoins

> > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for regular checkups.

> >

> > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own business or

> > eventually do that.

> >

> > This might fit in chart of non marital status.

> >

> > His relationships might not last for long, even if he marries. So if

> > there is any chance of marriage it might be very delayed in life and

> > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for companionship.

> >

> > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't have blessings

> > either.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , bala sosale

> > bsosale@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > Thanks for the blog.

> > >

> > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa but has 3 zeros?

> > >

> > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is still not married.

> > >

> > > Here are the details.

> > >

> > > Male

> > > 24th May 1976

> > > 10.20 AM.

> > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > EET -02.00

> > > 15N32

> > > 32E32

> > >

> > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn 13

> > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Bala

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

> > >

> > >

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Dear Rameshji/Balaji/Ashji,

i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th house and 2 in 12th

house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be obstacle or

wont get the desired results for the house where zereos are placed.

so the native might lack something related to 5th and 12th house which

might be associated with relationship and pleasures.

despite these other factors already discussed might not give native a

happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju antra).

 

Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my friend who is

unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might have more than 2 or

3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case of non-marital status.

i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which is his 6th

lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra of jupiter

with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due to some

circumstances for him and the family of the girl the things didnt work

out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and might deliver

result may be later on..? here is his data again if required :

27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu aspected by saturn.

ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.

 

thanks/regards

harjeet

harjeet

 

, " aarceemastro2002 "

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash and Bala,

> How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period from 10 Aug

> 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve is karak for 4th

> house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is 12th lord of B

> for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.

> Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.

> The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highest power with 40

> points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.

> The 4th house is house of happiness also but this house is afflicted

> due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma (2nd and 7th

> lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some affliction of

> his happiness during this period.

> Can you please shed some light on this house ?

> This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

> , " Sanjiva Sharma "

> <sanjiva_sharma@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Ash,

> >

> > You staed that:

> >

> > " In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa and

> conjoins

> > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for regular

> checkups "

> >

> > Please clarify the following points.

> >

> > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju should be in

> Libra?

> > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted by Sat &

> Mars.

> >

> > 2. How do we find the timing of the " cancer " to come out as

> disease?

> >

> > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the body? Is it

> related to

> > house, where Ju is situated?

> >

> > Thanks and regards.

> >

> > Sanjiva Sharma

> >

> > trologyandtimingevents

> > <trologyandtimingevents > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bala,

> > >

> > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra and ve in

> krittika

> > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they are in 1:7 so

> > > having enmity.

> > >

> > > This person might be " allergic " to authority.

> > >

> > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa and

> conjoins

> > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for regular

> checkups.

> > >

> > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own business or

> > > eventually do that.

> > >

> > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.

> > >

> > > His relationships might not last for long, even if he marries. So

> if

> > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very delayed in life

> and

> > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for companionship.

> > >

> > > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't have

> blessings

> > > either.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , bala sosale

> > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the blog.

> > > >

> > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa but has 3

> zeros?

> > > >

> > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is still not

> married.

> > > >

> > > > Here are the details.

> > > >

> > > > Male

> > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > EET -02.00

> > > > 15N32

> > > > 32E32

> > > >

> > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn 13

> > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Bala

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Harjeet,

Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know what happens in end

2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.

Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for all.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " harjeet bakshi "

<harjeet_bakshi wrote:

>

> Dear Rameshji/Balaji/Ashji,

> i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th house and 2 in 12th

> house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be obstacle or

> wont get the desired results for the house where zereos are placed.

> so the native might lack something related to 5th and 12th house which

> might be associated with relationship and pleasures.

> despite these other factors already discussed might not give native a

> happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju antra).

>

> Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my friend who is

> unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might have more than 2 or

> 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case of non-marital status.

> i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which is his 6th

> lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra of jupiter

> with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due to some

> circumstances for him and the family of the girl the things didnt work

> out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and might deliver

> result may be later on..? here is his data again if required :

> 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu aspected by saturn.

> ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.

>

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

> harjeet

>

> , " aarceemastro2002 "

> <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period from 10 Aug

> > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve is karak for 4th

> > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is 12th lord of B

> > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.

> > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.

> > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highest power with 40

> > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.

> > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this house is afflicted

> > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma (2nd and 7th

> > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some affliction of

> > his happiness during this period.

> > Can you please shed some light on this house ?

> > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> > , " Sanjiva Sharma "

> > <sanjiva_sharma@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Ash,

> > >

> > > You staed that:

> > >

> > > " In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa and

> > conjoins

> > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for regular

> > checkups "

> > >

> > > Please clarify the following points.

> > >

> > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju should be in

> > Libra?

> > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted by Sat &

> > Mars.

> > >

> > > 2. How do we find the timing of the " cancer " to come out as

> > disease?

> > >

> > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the body? Is it

> > related to

> > > house, where Ju is situated?

> > >

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > >

> > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > >

> > > trologyandtimingevents

> > > <trologyandtimingevents > , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bala,

> > > >

> > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra and ve in

> > krittika

> > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they are in 1:7 so

> > > > having enmity.

> > > >

> > > > This person might be " allergic " to authority.

> > > >

> > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa and

> > conjoins

> > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for regular

> > checkups.

> > > >

> > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own business or

> > > > eventually do that.

> > > >

> > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.

> > > >

> > > > His relationships might not last for long, even if he marries. So

> > if

> > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very delayed in life

> > and

> > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for companionship.

> > > >

> > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't have

> > blessings

> > > > either.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , bala sosale

> > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for the blog.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa but has 3

> > zeros?

> > > > >

> > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is still not

> > married.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here are the details.

> > > > >

> > > > > Male

> > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > 15N32

> > > > > 32E32

> > > > >

> > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn 13

> > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Bala

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Dear Ramesh,

 

Please look at my answers in CAPS under yours.

 

Dear Ash and Bala,

How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period from 10 Aug

2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve is karak for 4th

house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is 12th lord of B

for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.

Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.

The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highest power with 40

points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.

 

 

YOU ARE RIGHT. I STILL FEEL JUPITER WILL GIVE MOST OF HIS RESULTS

IN THE FIRST SECTOR OF THAT PERIOD. MAY BE SECOND SECTOR HE WILL

HAVE EFFECTS OF ME AS 12TH LORD. 12TH LORD MALEFIC EFFECTS WILL BE

MORE WHEN IT ASPECTS A, B AND C. THIS COULD BE MORE TRUE FOR JU AND MARS WHERE

IT ASPECTS 3 HOUSES. SINCE IT IS MERCURY SINCE IT IS ALREADY

IN A SO IT CANNOT ASPECT B OR C WHICH IS SAFE.

 

The 4th house is house of happiness also but this house is afflicted

due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma (2nd and 7th

lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some affliction of

his happiness during this period.

 

THE ABOVE COULD BE TRUE IN MARS ANTRA SINCE MARS HAS 2 ZEROS

IN 5TH AND 12TH WHICH HARJEET COVERED. SO HE WILL GET DEFICIENCY

IN THAT PERIOD. EVEN THOUGH JU IS SD TO MER IN NAVAMSA BUT SINCE

IT IS 6TH LORD IT LOOSES IT'S SD NATURE. HIS PREVIOUS ANTRA OF MARS

WAS BAD AND HE HAD TO MOVE AWAY FROM HIS HOME DURING THAT PERIOD

AND HIS 12 TH WAS AFFLICTED SO HE HAD LOTS OF PROBLEMS IN THE NEW

PLACE WHERE HE HAD A BREAK IN RELATIONSHIP AND AS WELL AS PARTNERSHIP IN A

COMPANY.

 

Hope I answered all of your question.

 

May be we should experiment on these things more than a mere timing of events.

This is just my thinking.

 

with that in my mind, please tell me what could have happened significantly to

that

native on the day I posted the chart. Others can also answer the same.

 

Thanks for listening,

 

Regards

Bala

 

 

 

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Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,

I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov 1973.

The native is still unmarried besides:-

1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.

2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination

3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9 combination.

4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.

7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.

 

The native should marry after completing 21 years of age i.e. after

Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?

Negative trends of the chart is as below.

1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.

2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in marriage.Moon

controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two malefics

retrograted Sa and Ke.

The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo and Ra.This may

be one of the reason for being unmarried.

3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in navamsa.

4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.

5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord) aspects his

seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.

Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity towards one

another.

6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus reducing

the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on 12th

house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housed for

marriage purpose.

7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10 relationship.Ju

comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these

relationship.

Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in detail ?

I think this relationship brings very important for this chart.

I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only last two

points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.

All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.It means

native should have marriage.

The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker. Sometimes he

remains without food due to more volume of work. He is hypocritic

also.

Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according to me it

seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being 6th lord.

I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagna and its

7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.

He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and conjunction

but he will dominate his spouse.

Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried ?

He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but it did not

happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.

He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did not happen.

He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD to Me LoE.

Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it aspects house

A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should have shown its

result.

May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

> Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know what happens in

end

> 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.

> Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for all.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " harjeet bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/Ashji,

> > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th house and 2 in

12th

> > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be obstacle

or

> > wont get the desired results for the house where zereos are

placed.

> > so the native might lack something related to 5th and 12th house

which

> > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.

> > despite these other factors already discussed might not give

native a

> > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju antra).

> >

> > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my friend

who is

> > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might have more than

2 or

> > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case of non-marital

status.

> > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which is his 6th

> > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra of jupiter

> > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due to some

> > circumstances for him and the family of the girl the things didnt

work

> > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and might deliver

> > result may be later on..? here is his data again if required :

> > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu aspected by

saturn.

> > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.

> >

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> > harjeet

> >

> > --- In

, " aarceemastro2002 "

> > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period from 10

Aug

> > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve is karak for

4th

> > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is 12th

lord of B

> > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.

> > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.

> > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highest power with

40

> > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.

> > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this house is

afflicted

> > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma (2nd

and 7th

> > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some

affliction of

> > > his happiness during this period.

> > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?

> > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > , " Sanjiva

Sharma "

> > > <sanjiva_sharma@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash,

> > > >

> > > > You staed that:

> > > >

> > > > " In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa and

> > > conjoins

> > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for regular

> > > checkups "

> > > >

> > > > Please clarify the following points.

> > > >

> > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju should

be in

> > > Libra?

> > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted by Sat

&

> > > Mars.

> > > >

> > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the " cancer " to come out as

> > > disease?

> > > >

> > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the body? Is it

> > > related to

> > > > house, where Ju is situated?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > >

> > > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > > >

> > > > trologyandtimingevents

> > > > <trologyandtimingevents > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > >

> > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra and ve in

> > > krittika

> > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they are in

1:7 so

> > > > > having enmity.

> > > > >

> > > > > This person might be " allergic " to authority.

> > > > >

> > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa

and

> > > conjoins

> > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for regular

> > > checkups.

> > > > >

> > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own

business or

> > > > > eventually do that.

> > > > >

> > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.

> > > > >

> > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even if he

marries. So

> > > if

> > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very delayed in

life

> > > and

> > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for companionship.

> > > > >

> > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't have

> > > blessings

> > > > > either.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , bala sosale

> > > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for the blog.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa but

has 3

> > > zeros?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is still not

> > > married.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here are the details.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Male

> > > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > > 15N32

> > > > > > 32E32

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn 13

> > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Bala

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Dear Rameshji,

the native is my friend, i dont know if he is hypocrite or not.

somewhere in some vedic astrology i studied that malefic in 4th house

deals with hypocricy.. i dont know much though. but he is there

most of the times for his friends. he doesnt cares about money matters

and even tips to waiters are lavish. he is lazy but very confident and

sometimes work only in case of emergency lol.. and gets things done

without effort(passing exam without studying, if he bats the score on

the board would be different, getting job easily.. he is oracle

consultant and getting paid good but i had to install oracle on his

computer). the difference in points in 10th house and 11th house in

rasi chart follows in his life. he is stubborn though again more

points in lagna > 30 i guess.

looking at his venus spoilt and jupiter lord of 6th in 4th house

despite having blessing is the case of unhappy marriage... so can

happen in jupiter antra being lord of 6th ?

thanks/regards

harjeet

 

 

, " aarceemastro2002 "

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,

> I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov 1973.

> The native is still unmarried besides:-

> 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.

> 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination

> 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9 combination.

> 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

> 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

> 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.

> 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.

>

> The native should marry after completing 21 years of age i.e. after

> Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?

> Negative trends of the chart is as below.

> 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.

> 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in marriage.Moon

> controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two malefics

> retrograted Sa and Ke.

> The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo and Ra.This may

> be one of the reason for being unmarried.

> 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in navamsa.

> 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.

> 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord) aspects his

> seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.

> Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity towards one

> another.

> 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus reducing

> the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on 12th

> house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housed for

> marriage purpose.

> 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10 relationship.Ju

> comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these

> relationship.

> Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in detail ?

> I think this relationship brings very important for this chart.

> I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only last two

> points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.

> All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.It means

> native should have marriage.

> The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker. Sometimes he

> remains without food due to more volume of work. He is hypocritic

> also.

> Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according to me it

> seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being 6th lord.

> I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagna and its

> 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.

> He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and conjunction

> but he will dominate his spouse.

> Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried ?

> He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but it did not

> happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.

> He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did not happen.

> He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD to Me LoE.

> Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it aspects house

> A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should have shown its

> result.

> May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know what happens in

> end

> > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.

> > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for all.

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > , " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/Ashji,

> > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th house and 2 in

> 12th

> > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be obstacle

> or

> > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereos are

> placed.

> > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and 12th house

> which

> > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.

> > > despite these other factors already discussed might not give

> native a

> > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju antra).

> > >

> > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my friend

> who is

> > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might have more than

> 2 or

> > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case of non-marital

> status.

> > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which is his 6th

> > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra of jupiter

> > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due to some

> > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl the things didnt

> work

> > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and might deliver

> > > result may be later on..? here is his data again if required :

> > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu aspected by

> saturn.

> > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.

> > >

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > --- In

> , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period from 10

> Aug

> > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve is karak for

> 4th

> > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is 12th

> lord of B

> > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.

> > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.

> > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highest power with

> 40

> > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.

> > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this house is

> afflicted

> > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma (2nd

> and 7th

> > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some

> affliction of

> > > > his happiness during this period.

> > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?

> > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > , " Sanjiva

> Sharma "

> > > > <sanjiva_sharma@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > You staed that:

> > > > >

> > > > > " In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa and

> > > > conjoins

> > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for regular

> > > > checkups "

> > > > >

> > > > > Please clarify the following points.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju should

> be in

> > > > Libra?

> > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted by Sat

> &

> > > > Mars.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the " cancer " to come out as

> > > > disease?

> > > > >

> > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the body? Is it

> > > > related to

> > > > > house, where Ju is situated?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > > > >

> > > > > trologyandtimingevents

> > > > > <trologyandtimingevents > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra and ve in

> > > > krittika

> > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they are in

> 1:7 so

> > > > > > having enmity.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This person might be " allergic " to authority.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa

> and

> > > > conjoins

> > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for regular

> > > > checkups.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own

> business or

> > > > > > eventually do that.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even if he

> marries. So

> > > > if

> > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very delayed in

> life

> > > > and

> > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for companionship.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't have

> > > > blessings

> > > > > > either.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , bala sosale

> > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa but

> has 3

> > > > zeros?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is still not

> > > > married.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here are the details.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > > > 15N32

> > > > > > > 32E32

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn 13

> > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > Bala

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Dear Ramesh,

Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinion and it

need not be right.

 

My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve when its

spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have atleast 3

strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.

 

Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can have such strong

relationships.

 

His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not have that

information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able to clarify

with dates and times of such.

 

Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt maritial

life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7th sight of

enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoilt and he

might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple relationships so no

doubt about that.

 

Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in 7th

hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry. That will

be due to his family status or intervention.

 

Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happiness in

maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result and moslty in 2nd

or 3rd sector.

 

Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn't given so

far, why will it give now going in future?

 

Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.

 

Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and that will also

become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and lets watch,

otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.

 

But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us posted

on the outcome.

 

Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give marriage

too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has said...

but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2nd or 3rd

sector... is what i feel...

 

I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it does not

matter.. but it does matter for our learning....

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " aarceemastro2002 "

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,

> I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov 1973.

> The native is still unmarried besides:-

> 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.

> 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination

> 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9 combination.

> 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

> 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

> 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.

> 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.

>

> The native should marry after completing 21 years of age i.e. after

> Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?

> Negative trends of the chart is as below.

> 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.

> 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in marriage.Moon

> controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two malefics

> retrograted Sa and Ke.

> The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo and Ra.This may

> be one of the reason for being unmarried.

> 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in navamsa.

> 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.

> 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord) aspects his

> seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.

> Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity towards one

> another.

> 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus reducing

> the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on 12th

> house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housed for

> marriage purpose.

> 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10 relationship.Ju

> comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these

> relationship.

> Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in detail ?

> I think this relationship brings very important for this chart.

> I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only last two

> points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.

> All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.It means

> native should have marriage.

> The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker. Sometimes he

> remains without food due to more volume of work. He is hypocritic

> also.

> Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according to me it

> seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being 6th lord.

> I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagna and its

> 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.

> He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and conjunction

> but he will dominate his spouse.

> Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried ?

> He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but it did not

> happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.

> He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did not happen.

> He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD to Me LoE.

> Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it aspects house

> A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should have shown its

> result.

> May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know what happens in

> end

> > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.

> > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for all.

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > , " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/Ashji,

> > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th house and 2 in

> 12th

> > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be obstacle

> or

> > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereos are

> placed.

> > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and 12th house

> which

> > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.

> > > despite these other factors already discussed might not give

> native a

> > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju antra).

> > >

> > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my friend

> who is

> > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might have more than

> 2 or

> > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case of non-marital

> status.

> > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which is his 6th

> > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra of jupiter

> > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due to some

> > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl the things didnt

> work

> > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and might deliver

> > > result may be later on..? here is his data again if required :

> > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu aspected by

> saturn.

> > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.

> > >

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > --- In

> , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period from 10

> Aug

> > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve is karak for

> 4th

> > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is 12th

> lord of B

> > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.

> > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.

> > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highest power with

> 40

> > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.

> > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this house is

> afflicted

> > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma (2nd

> and 7th

> > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some

> affliction of

> > > > his happiness during this period.

> > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?

> > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > , " Sanjiva

> Sharma "

> > > > <sanjiva_sharma@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > >

> > > > > You staed that:

> > > > >

> > > > > " In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa and

> > > > conjoins

> > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for regular

> > > > checkups "

> > > > >

> > > > > Please clarify the following points.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju should

> be in

> > > > Libra?

> > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted by Sat

> &

> > > > Mars.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the " cancer " to come out as

> > > > disease?

> > > > >

> > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the body? Is it

> > > > related to

> > > > > house, where Ju is situated?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > > > >

> > > > > trologyandtimingevents

> > > > > <trologyandtimingevents > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra and ve in

> > > > krittika

> > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they are in

> 1:7 so

> > > > > > having enmity.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This person might be " allergic " to authority.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa

> and

> > > > conjoins

> > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for regular

> > > > checkups.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own

> business or

> > > > > > eventually do that.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even if he

> marries. So

> > > > if

> > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very delayed in

> life

> > > > and

> > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for companionship.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't have

> > > > blessings

> > > > > > either.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , bala sosale

> > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa but

> has 3

> > > > zeros?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is still not

> > > > married.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here are the details.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > > > 15N32

> > > > > > > 32E32

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn 13

> > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > Bala

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Dear Ash!My Gurudev,

Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and techniques

In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, it can

delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.

But my one query remained pending.

I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10 relationship

with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other hand Ma

and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of

planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV points ?

Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be the role

of Ju in this context?

I think this time you will reply.

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Ramesh,

> Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinion and it

> need not be right.

>

> My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve when its

> spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have atleast 3

> strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.

>

> Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can have such

strong

> relationships.

>

> His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not have that

> information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able to clarify

> with dates and times of such.

>

> Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt

maritial

> life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7th sight

of

> enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoilt and he

> might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple relationships so

no

> doubt about that.

>

> Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in 7th

> hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry. That will

> be due to his family status or intervention.

>

> Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happiness in

> maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result and moslty in

2nd

> or 3rd sector.

>

> Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn't given so

> far, why will it give now going in future?

>

> Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.

>

> Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and that will

also

> become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and lets watch,

> otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.

>

> But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us

posted

> on the outcome.

>

> Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give marriage

> too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has said...

> but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2nd or 3rd

> sector... is what i feel...

>

> I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it does not

> matter.. but it does matter for our learning....

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " aarceemastro2002 "

> <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,

> > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov 1973.

> > The native is still unmarried besides:-

> > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.

> > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination

> > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9 combination.

> > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

> > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

> > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.

> > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.

> >

> > The native should marry after completing 21 years of age i.e.

after

> > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?

> > Negative trends of the chart is as below.

> > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.

> > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in

marriage.Moon

> > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two

malefics

> > retrograted Sa and Ke.

> > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo and Ra.This

may

> > be one of the reason for being unmarried.

> > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in

navamsa.

> > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.

> > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord) aspects

his

> > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.

> > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity towards

one

> > another.

> > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus

reducing

> > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on 12th

> > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housed for

> > marriage purpose.

> > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10 relationship.Ju

> > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these

> > relationship.

> > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in

detail ?

> > I think this relationship brings very important for this chart.

> > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only last two

> > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.

> > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.It means

> > native should have marriage.

> > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.

Sometimes he

> > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is hypocritic

> > also.

> > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according to me

it

> > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being 6th

lord.

> > I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagna and

its

> > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.

> > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and

conjunction

> > but he will dominate his spouse.

> > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried ?

> > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but it did

not

> > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.

> > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did not happen.

> > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD to Me LoE.

> > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it aspects

house

> > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should have shown

its

> > result.

> > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know what happens

in

> > end

> > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.

> > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for all.

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > , " harjeet

bakshi "

> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/Ashji,

> > > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th house and 2

in

> > 12th

> > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be

obstacle

> > or

> > > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereos are

> > placed.

> > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and 12th

house

> > which

> > > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.

> > > > despite these other factors already discussed might not give

> > native a

> > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju

antra).

> > > >

> > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my

friend

> > who is

> > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might have more

than

> > 2 or

> > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case of non-marital

> > status.

> > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which is his

6th

> > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra of

jupiter

> > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due to some

> > > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl the things

didnt

> > work

> > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and might

deliver

> > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again if required :

> > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu aspected by

> > saturn.

> > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.

> > > >

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period from

10

> > Aug

> > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve is karak

for

> > 4th

> > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is 12th

> > lord of B

> > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.

> > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.

> > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highest power

with

> > 40

> > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.

> > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this house is

> > afflicted

> > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma

(2nd

> > and 7th

> > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some

> > affliction of

> > > > > his happiness during this period.

> > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?

> > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > , " Sanjiva

> > Sharma "

> > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You staed that:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa

and

> > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for

regular

> > > > > checkups "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please clarify the following points.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju

should

> > be in

> > > > > Libra?

> > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted by

Sat

> > &

> > > > > Mars.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the " cancer " to come out

as

> > > > > disease?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the body?

Is it

> > > > > related to

> > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > > > > >

> > > > > > trologyandtimingevents

> > > > > >

<trologyandtimingevents > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra and

ve in

> > > > > krittika

> > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they are

in

> > 1:7 so

> > > > > > > having enmity.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This person might be " allergic " to authority.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by

Sa

> > and

> > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for

regular

> > > > > checkups.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own

> > business or

> > > > > > > eventually do that.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even if he

> > marries. So

> > > > > if

> > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very

delayed in

> > life

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for

companionship.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't

have

> > > > > blessings

> > > > > > > either.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , bala

sosale

> > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa

but

> > has 3

> > > > > zeros?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is still

not

> > > > > married.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here are the details.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > > > > 15N32

> > > > > > > > 32E32

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn 13

> > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > Bala

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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Dear Ramesh,

 

I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me

attempt it.

 

Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial

happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7 bindus.

Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst and it

becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.

 

Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so its

disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not LoD or

LoE for 12th as B.

 

Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju is not

1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is important as

it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with sperm count

etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the idea.

I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in deeper so

what to do....

 

Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same time

its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.

 

Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moon is

also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.

 

Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd

house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its

with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose Jupiter.

 

Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control over 6th

lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4 bindus.

 

Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the 1st

house results, i.e. quality.

 

Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and we get

say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other planets

with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets / lagna

are supporting Jupiter.

 

Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and they are

 

1) Lagna

2) Sun

3) Moon

4) Mars

5) Mercury

6) Jupiter,

7) Venus

 

So these all are supporting except Saturn.

 

Hope that helps,

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " aarceemastro2002 "

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Ash!My Gurudev,

> Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and techniques

> In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, it can

> delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.

> But my one query remained pending.

> I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10 relationship

> with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other hand Ma

> and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of

> planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV points ?

> Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be the role

> of Ju in this context?

> I think this time you will reply.

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

> , " ashsam73 "

> <ashsam73@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramesh,

> > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinion and it

> > need not be right.

> >

> > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve when its

> > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have atleast 3

> > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.

> >

> > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can have such

> strong

> > relationships.

> >

> > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not have that

> > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able to clarify

> > with dates and times of such.

> >

> > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt

> maritial

> > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7th sight

> of

> > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoilt and he

> > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple relationships so

> no

> > doubt about that.

> >

> > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in 7th

> > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry. That will

> > be due to his family status or intervention.

> >

> > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happiness in

> > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result and moslty in

> 2nd

> > or 3rd sector.

> >

> > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn't given so

> > far, why will it give now going in future?

> >

> > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.

> >

> > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and that will

> also

> > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and lets watch,

> > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.

> >

> > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us

> posted

> > on the outcome.

> >

> > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give marriage

> > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has said...

> > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2nd or 3rd

> > sector... is what i feel...

> >

> > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it does not

> > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,

> > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov 1973.

> > > The native is still unmarried besides:-

> > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.

> > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination

> > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9 combination.

> > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

> > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

> > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.

> > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.

> > >

> > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of age i.e.

> after

> > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?

> > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.

> > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.

> > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in

> marriage.Moon

> > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two

> malefics

> > > retrograted Sa and Ke.

> > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo and Ra.This

> may

> > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.

> > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in

> navamsa.

> > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.

> > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord) aspects

> his

> > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.

> > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity towards

> one

> > > another.

> > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus

> reducing

> > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on 12th

> > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housed for

> > > marriage purpose.

> > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10 relationship.Ju

> > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these

> > > relationship.

> > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in

> detail ?

> > > I think this relationship brings very important for this chart.

> > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only last two

> > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.

> > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.It means

> > > native should have marriage.

> > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.

> Sometimes he

> > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is hypocritic

> > > also.

> > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according to me

> it

> > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being 6th

> lord.

> > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagna and

> its

> > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.

> > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and

> conjunction

> > > but he will dominate his spouse.

> > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried ?

> > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but it did

> not

> > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.

> > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did not happen.

> > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD to Me LoE.

> > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it aspects

> house

> > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should have shown

> its

> > > result.

> > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know what happens

> in

> > > end

> > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.

> > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for all.

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > > , " harjeet

> bakshi "

> > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/Ashji,

> > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th house and 2

> in

> > > 12th

> > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be

> obstacle

> > > or

> > > > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereos are

> > > placed.

> > > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and 12th

> house

> > > which

> > > > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.

> > > > > despite these other factors already discussed might not give

> > > native a

> > > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju

> antra).

> > > > >

> > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my

> friend

> > > who is

> > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might have more

> than

> > > 2 or

> > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case of non-marital

> > > status.

> > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which is his

> 6th

> > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra of

> jupiter

> > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due to some

> > > > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl the things

> didnt

> > > work

> > > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and might

> deliver

> > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again if required :

> > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu aspected by

> > > saturn.

> > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period from

> 10

> > > Aug

> > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve is karak

> for

> > > 4th

> > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is 12th

> > > lord of B

> > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.

> > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.

> > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highest power

> with

> > > 40

> > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.

> > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this house is

> > > afflicted

> > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma

> (2nd

> > > and 7th

> > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some

> > > affliction of

> > > > > > his happiness during this period.

> > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?

> > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > , " Sanjiva

> > > Sharma "

> > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You staed that:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by Sa

> and

> > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for

> regular

> > > > > > checkups "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please clarify the following points.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju

> should

> > > be in

> > > > > > Libra?

> > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted by

> Sat

> > > &

> > > > > > Mars.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the " cancer " to come out

> as

> > > > > > disease?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the body?

> Is it

> > > > > > related to

> > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > trologyandtimingevents

> > > > > > >

> <trologyandtimingevents > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra and

> ve in

> > > > > > krittika

> > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they are

> in

> > > 1:7 so

> > > > > > > > having enmity.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This person might be " allergic " to authority.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by

> Sa

> > > and

> > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for

> regular

> > > > > > checkups.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own

> > > business or

> > > > > > > > eventually do that.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even if he

> > > marries. So

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very

> delayed in

> > > life

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for

> companionship.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't

> have

> > > > > > blessings

> > > > > > > > either.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , bala

> sosale

> > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa

> but

> > > has 3

> > > > > > zeros?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is still

> not

> > > > > > married.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Here are the details.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > > > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > > > > > 15N32

> > > > > > > > > 32E32

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn 13

> > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > Bala

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List

 

There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay of

marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus " , and marriage timing, dated

14 feb 2007

the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put to test

their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.

I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participated in

the discussion .

 

this is a link to one of the messages.

/message/14224

 

the details for the chart are , although i would like to point that once

this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken and

lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs to make

those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,

which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on this

with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can be of

help.

according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini ,

while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancer instead

of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr softwares

as well,

parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std time

zone.

while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time

zone as well.

 

Details

 

date: 24th may 1976 ,

place : khartoum sundan

time: 10:20

 

timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for the

year 1976 and also put DSt )

 

here are the sites for reference for correcting:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118 & syear=1970

http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi

 

Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart for study

from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and oter

characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.

 

Thanks once again

Swati

 

 

, " ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Ramesh,

>

> I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me

> attempt it.

>

> Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial

> happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7 bindus.

> Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst and it

> becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.

>

> Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so its

> disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not LoD or

> LoE for 12th as B.

>

> Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju is not

> 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is important as

> it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with sperm count

> etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the idea.

> I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in deeper so

> what to do....

>

> Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same time

> its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.

>

> Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moon is

> also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.

>

> Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd

> house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its

> with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose

Jupiter.

>

> Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control over 6th

> lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4 bindus.

>

> Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the 1st

> house results, i.e. quality.

>

> Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and we get

> say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other planets

> with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets / lagna

> are supporting Jupiter.

>

> Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and they are

>

> 1) Lagna

> 2) Sun

> 3) Moon

> 4) Mars

> 5) Mercury

> 6) Jupiter,

> 7) Venus

>

> So these all are supporting except Saturn.

>

> Hope that helps,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " aarceemastro2002 "

> aarceemastro2002@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,

> > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and techniques

> > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, it can

> > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.

> > But my one query remained pending.

> > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10

relationship

> > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other hand Ma

> > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of

> > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV points ?

> > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be the role

> > of Ju in this context?

> > I think this time you will reply.

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> > , " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinion and

it

> > > need not be right.

> > >

> > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve when its

> > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have atleast 3

> > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.

> > >

> > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can have such

> > strong

> > > relationships.

> > >

> > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not have

that

> > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able to clarify

> > > with dates and times of such.

> > >

> > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt

> > maritial

> > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7th

sight

> > of

> > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoilt and

he

> > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple relationships

so

> > no

> > > doubt about that.

> > >

> > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in 7th

> > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry. That

will

> > > be due to his family status or intervention.

> > >

> > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happiness in

> > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result and moslty in

> > 2nd

> > > or 3rd sector.

> > >

> > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn't given

so

> > > far, why will it give now going in future?

> > >

> > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.

> > >

> > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and that will

> > also

> > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and lets

watch,

> > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.

> > >

> > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us

> > posted

> > > on the outcome.

> > >

> > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give marriage

> > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has

said...

> > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2nd or

3rd

> > > sector... is what i feel...

> > >

> > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it does not

> > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > ,

" aarceemastro2002 "

> > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,

> > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov 1973.

> > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-

> > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.

> > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination

> > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9 combination.

> > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

> > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

> > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.

> > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.

> > > >

> > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of age i.e.

> > after

> > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?

> > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.

> > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.

> > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in

> > marriage.Moon

> > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two

> > malefics

> > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.

> > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo and Ra.This

> > may

> > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.

> > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in

> > navamsa.

> > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.

> > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord) aspects

> > his

> > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.

> > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity

towards

> > one

> > > > another.

> > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus

> > reducing

> > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on

12th

> > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housed for

> > > > marriage purpose.

> > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10

relationship.Ju

> > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these

> > > > relationship.

> > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in

> > detail ?

> > > > I think this relationship brings very important for this chart.

> > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only last

two

> > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.

> > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.It means

> > > > native should have marriage.

> > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.

> > Sometimes he

> > > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is

hypocritic

> > > > also.

> > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according to me

> > it

> > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being 6th

> > lord.

> > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagna and

> > its

> > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.

> > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and

> > conjunction

> > > > but he will dominate his spouse.

> > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried ?

> > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but it did

> > not

> > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.

> > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did not happen.

> > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD to Me

LoE.

> > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it aspects

> > house

> > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should have shown

> > its

> > > > result.

> > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know what

happens

> > in

> > > > end

> > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.

> > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for

all.

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > > , " harjeet

> > bakshi "

> > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/Ashji,

> > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th house and

2

> > in

> > > > 12th

> > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be

> > obstacle

> > > > or

> > > > > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereos are

> > > > placed.

> > > > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and 12th

> > house

> > > > which

> > > > > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.

> > > > > > despite these other factors already discussed might not give

> > > > native a

> > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju

> > antra).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my

> > friend

> > > > who is

> > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might have more

> > than

> > > > 2 or

> > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case of non-marital

> > > > status.

> > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which is his

> > 6th

> > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra of

> > jupiter

> > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due to some

> > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl the things

> > didnt

> > > > work

> > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and might

> > deliver

> > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again if required

:

> > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu aspected

by

> > > > saturn.

> > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > > , " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period

from

> > 10

> > > > Aug

> > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > > > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve is karak

> > for

> > > > 4th

> > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is

12th

> > > > lord of B

> > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.

> > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.

> > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highest power

> > with

> > > > 40

> > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.

> > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this house is

> > > > afflicted

> > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma

> > (2nd

> > > > and 7th

> > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some

> > > > affliction of

> > > > > > > his happiness during this period.

> > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?

> > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > , " Sanjiva

> > > > Sharma "

> > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You staed that:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by

Sa

> > and

> > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for

> > regular

> > > > > > > checkups "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please clarify the following points.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju

> > should

> > > > be in

> > > > > > > Libra?

> > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted

by

> > Sat

> > > > &

> > > > > > > Mars.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the " cancer " to come

out

> > as

> > > > > > > disease?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the body?

> > Is it

> > > > > > > related to

> > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > trologyandtimingevents

> > > > > > > >

> > <trologyandtimingevents , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra and

> > ve in

> > > > > > > krittika

> > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they are

> > in

> > > > 1:7 so

> > > > > > > > > having enmity.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This person might be " allergic " to authority.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by

> > Sa

> > > > and

> > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for

> > regular

> > > > > > > checkups.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own

> > > > business or

> > > > > > > > > eventually do that.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even if he

> > > > marries. So

> > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very

> > delayed in

> > > > life

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for

> > companionship.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't

> > have

> > > > > > > blessings

> > > > > > > > > either.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , bala

> > sosale

> > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa

> > but

> > > > has 3

> > > > > > > zeros?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is still

> > not

> > > > > > > married.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Here are the details.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > > > > > > 15N32

> > > > > > > > > > 32E32

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn 13

> > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > Bala

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail

beta.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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Dear

Swati,

 

Please

do not say wrong things .

 

I

want the truth. I want to know what

the truth of DST is in this case.

 

If

One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES as given in

astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.

 

So

what is the fact?

 

Can

someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum,

Sudan for 24th May 1976.

 

 

If

I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and with Daylight

savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum,

Sudan I am getting 3 hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.

 

When

I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.

 

So,

regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with proper data first and

the charts have been cast accurately.

 

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of designhologram

Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28

AM

To:

 

Subject:

Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3

zeros

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji

and List

 

There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay of

marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus " , and marriage timing, dated

14 feb 2007

the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put to test

their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.

I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participated in

the discussion .

 

this is a link to one of the messages.

/message/14224

 

the details for the chart are , although i would like to point that once

this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken and

lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs to make

those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,

which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on this

with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can be of

help.

according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini ,

while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancer instead

of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr softwares

as well,

parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std time

zone.

while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time

zone as well.

 

Details

 

date: 24th may 1976 ,

place : khartoum sundan

time: 10:20

 

timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for the

year 1976 and also put DSt )

 

here are the sites for reference for correcting:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118 & syear=1970

http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi

 

Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart for study

from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and oter

characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.

 

Thanks once again

Swati

 

,

" ashsam73 "

<ashsam73 wrote:

>

> Dear Ramesh,

>

> I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me

> attempt it.

>

> Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial

> happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7 bindus.

> Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst and it

> becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.

>

> Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so its

> disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not LoD or

> LoE for 12th as B.

>

> Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju is not

> 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is important as

> it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with sperm count

> etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the idea.

> I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in deeper so

> what to do....

>

> Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same time

> its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.

>

> Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moon is

> also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.

>

> Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd

> house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its

> with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose

Jupiter.

>

> Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control over 6th

> lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4 bindus.

>

> Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the 1st

> house results, i.e. quality.

>

> Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and we get

> say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other planets

> with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets / lagna

> are supporting Jupiter.

>

> Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and they are

>

> 1) Lagna

> 2) Sun

> 3) Moon

> 4) Mars

> 5) Mercury

> 6) Jupiter,

> 7) Venus

>

> So these all are supporting except Saturn.

>

> Hope that helps,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> ,

" aarceemastro2002 "

> aarceemastro2002@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,

> > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and techniques

> > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, it can

> > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.

> > But my one query remained pending.

> > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10

relationship

> > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other hand Ma

> > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of

> > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV points ?

> > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be the role

> > of Ju in this context?

> > I think this time you will reply.

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> > ,

" ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinion and

it

> > > need not be right.

> > >

> > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve when its

> > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have atleast

3

> > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.

> > >

> > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can have such

> > strong

> > > relationships.

> > >

> > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not have

that

> > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able to

clarify

> > > with dates and times of such.

> > >

> > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt

> > maritial

> > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7th

sight

> > of

> > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoilt and

he

> > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple relationships

so

> > no

> > > doubt about that.

> > >

> > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in

7th

> > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry. That

will

> > > be due to his family status or intervention.

> > >

> > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happiness in

> > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result and moslty

in

> > 2nd

> > > or 3rd sector.

> > >

> > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn't

given

so

> > > far, why will it give now going in future?

> > >

> > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.

> > >

> > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and that

will

> > also

> > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and lets

watch,

> > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.

> > >

> > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us

> > posted

> > > on the outcome.

> > >

> > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give marriage

> > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has

said...

> > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2nd or

3rd

> > > sector... is what i feel...

> > >

> > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it does not

> > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > ,

" aarceemastro2002 "

> > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,

> > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov

1973.

> > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-

> > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.

> > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination

> > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9

combination.

> > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

> > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10

combination.

> > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.

> > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.

> > > >

> > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of age

i.e.

> > after

> > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?

> > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.

> > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.

> > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in

> > marriage.Moon

> > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two

> > malefics

> > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.

> > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo and

Ra.This

> > may

> > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.

> > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in

> > navamsa.

> > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.

> > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord)

aspects

> > his

> > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.

> > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity

towards

> > one

> > > > another.

> > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus

> > reducing

> > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence

on

12th

> > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important

housed for

> > > > marriage purpose.

> > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10

relationship.Ju

> > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these

> > > > relationship.

> > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me

in

> > detail ?

> > > > I think this relationship brings very important for this

chart.

> > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only

last

two

> > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.

> > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in

WS.It means

> > > > native should have marriage.

> > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.

> > Sometimes he

> > > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is

hypocritic

> > > > also.

> > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according

to me

> > it

> > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being

6th

> > lord.

> > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagna

and

> > its

> > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.

> > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and

> > conjunction

> > > > but he will dominate his spouse.

> > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still

unmarried ?

> > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but

it did

> > not

> > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.

> > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did not

happen.

> > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD to

Me

LoE.

> > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it

aspects

> > house

> > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should have

shown

> > its

> > > > result.

> > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know

what

happens

> > in

> > > > end

> > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.

> > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience

for

all.

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

" harjeet

> > bakshi "

> > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/Ashji,

> > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th

house and

2

> > in

> > > > 12th

> > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there

would be

> > obstacle

> > > > or

> > > > > > wont get the desired results for the house where

zereos are

> > > > placed.

> > > > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th

and 12th

> > house

> > > > which

> > > > > > might be associated with relationship and

pleasures.

> > > > > > despite these other factors already discussed

might not give

> > > > native a

> > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might

be in Ju

> > antra).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a

chart of my

> > friend

> > > > who is

> > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might

have more

> > than

> > > > 2 or

> > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case of

non-marital

> > > > status.

> > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra

(which is his

> > 6th

> > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current

antra of

> > jupiter

> > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately

due to some

> > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl

the things

> > didnt

> > > > work

> > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra

and might

> > deliver

> > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again

if required

:

> > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and

rahu aspected

by

> > > > saturn.

> > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> > > > ,

" aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during

the period

from

> > 10

> > > > Aug

> > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > > > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve

MD.Ve is karak

> > for

> > > > 4th

> > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter.

Me who is

12th

> > > > lord of B

> > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is

in house A.

> > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5

bindus.

> > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with

highest power

> > with

> > > > 40

> > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju

in WS.

> > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but

this house is

> > > > afflicted

> > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic

sight of Ma

> > (2nd

> > > > and 7th

> > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence

there is some

> > > > affliction of

> > > > > > > his happiness during this period.

> > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house

?

> > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and

regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > ,

" Sanjiva

> > > > Sharma "

> > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You staed that:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " In this chart also Ju is in Libra

and its aspected by

Sa

> > and

> > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He

must go for

> > regular

> > > > > > > checkups "

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please clarify the following points.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it

necessary that Ju

> > should

> > > > be in

> > > > > > > Libra?

> > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju

should be afflicted

by

> > Sat

> > > > &

> > > > > > > Mars.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the

" cancer " to come

out

> > as

> > > > > > > disease?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which

part of the body?

> > Is it

> > > > > > > related to

> > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > trologyandtimingevents

> > > > > > > >

> > <trologyandtimingevents

, " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3

zeros, ju in Libra and

> > ve in

> > > > > > > krittika

> > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus

and that too they are

> > in

> > > > 1:7 so

> > > > > > > > > having enmity.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This person might be

" allergic " to authority.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra

and its aspected by

> > Sa

> > > > and

> > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to

cancer. He must go for

> > regular

> > > > > > > checkups.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might

want to do his own

> > > > business or

> > > > > > > > > eventually do that.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non

marital status.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > His relationships might not last

for long, even if he

> > > > marries. So

> > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it

might be very

> > delayed in

> > > > life

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and

that too for

> > companionship.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > However I feel this person might

not marry, he don't

> > have

> > > > > > > blessings

> > > > > > > > > either.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ,

bala

> > sosale

> > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is

no delay by Ju or Sa

> > but

> > > > has 3

> > > > > > > zeros?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in

this chart? He is still

> > not

> > > > > > > married.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Here are the details.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > > > > > > 15N32

> > > > > > > > > > 32E32

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18

Pi 48 Ma

> > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18

Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn 13

> > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > Bala

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the

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time zone is minus 2.  daylight savings was observed. lagna is 4:53:41 of karkaOn 5-Aug-08, at 9:10 AM, Ash's Corner wrote:Dear Swati, Please do not say wrong things . I want the truth.  I want to know what the truth of DST is in this case.  If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES as given in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini. So what is the fact? Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan for 24th May 1976.  If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and with Daylight savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I am getting 3 hours east of GMT and with daylight savings. When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16. So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with proper data first and the charts have been cast accurately.  Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca    On Behalf Of designhologramSent: Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AMTo:  Subject:  Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and ListThere was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay ofmarriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus", and marriage timing, dated14 feb 2007the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put to testtheir reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participated inthe discussion .this is a link to one of the messages./message/14224the details for the chart are , although i would like to point that oncethis study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken andlagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs to makethose changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on thiswith ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can be ofhelp.according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini ,while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancer insteadof earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr softwaresas well,parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std timezone.while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std timezone as well.Detailsdate: 24th may 1976 ,place : khartoum sundantime: 10:20timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for theyear 1976 and also put DSt )here are the sites for reference for correcting:http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118 & syear=1970http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgiHope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart for studyfrom there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and otercharacterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.Thanks once againSwati--- In  , "ashsam73"<ashsam73 wrote:>> Dear Ramesh,>> I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me> attempt it.>> Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial> happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7 bindus.> Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst and it> becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.>> Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so its> disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not LoD or> LoE for 12th as B.>> Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju is not> 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is important as> it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with sperm count> etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the idea.> I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in deeper so> what to do....>> Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same time> its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.>> Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moon is> also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.>> Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd> house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its> with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will opposeJupiter.>> Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control over 6th> lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4 bindus.>> Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the 1st> house results, i.e. quality.>> Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and we get> say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other planets> with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets / lagna> are supporting Jupiter.>> Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and they are>> 1) Lagna> 2) Sun> 3) Moon> 4) Mars> 5) Mercury> 6) Jupiter,> 7) Venus>> So these all are supporting except Saturn.>> Hope that helps,> Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca>>'>http://www.ashtro.ca>> --- In  , "aarceemastro2002"> aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> >> > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,> > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and techniques> > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, it can> > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.> > But my one query remained pending.> > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10relationship> > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other hand Ma> > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of> > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV points ?> > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be the role> > of Ju in this context?> > I think this time you will reply.> > Thanks and regards.> > Ramesh Mishra> > --- In  , "ashsam73"> > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ramesh,> > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinion andit> > > need not be right.> > >> > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve when its> > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have atleast 3> > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.> > >> > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can have such> > strong> > > relationships.> > >> > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not havethat> > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able to clarify> > > with dates and times of such.> > >> > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt> > maritial> > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7thsight> > of> > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoilt andhe> > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple relationshipsso> > no> > > doubt about that.> > >> > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in 7th> > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry. Thatwill> > > be due to his family status or intervention.> > >> > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happiness in> > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result and moslty in> > 2nd> > > or 3rd sector.> > >> > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn't givenso> > > far, why will it give now going in future?> > >> > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.> > >> > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and that will> > also> > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and letswatch,> > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.> > >> > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us> > posted> > > on the outcome.> > >> > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give marriage> > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet hassaid...> > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2nd or3rd> > > sector... is what i feel...> > >> > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it does not> > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....> > >> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > >> > > --- In  ,"aarceemastro2002"> > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,> > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov 1973.> > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-> > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.> > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination> > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9 combination.> > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.> > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.> > > >> > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of age i.e.> > after> > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?> > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.> > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.> > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in> > marriage.Moon> > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two> > malefics> > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.> > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo and Ra.This> > may> > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.> > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in> > navamsa.> > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.> > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord) aspects> > his> > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.> > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmitytowards> > one> > > > another.> > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus> > reducing> > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on12th> > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housed for> > > > marriage purpose.> > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10relationship.Ju> > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these> > > > relationship.> > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in> > detail ?> > > > I think this relationship brings very important for this chart.> > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only lasttwo> > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.> > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.It means> > > > native should have marriage.> > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.> > Sometimes he> > > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He ishypocritic> > > > also.> > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according to me> > it> > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being 6th> > lord.> > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagna and> > its> > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.> > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and> > conjunction> > > > but he will dominate his spouse.> > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried ?> > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but it did> > not> > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.> > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did not happen.> > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD to MeLoE.> > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it aspects> > house> > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should have shown> > its> > > > result.> > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?> > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > --- In  , "ashsam73"> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know whathappens> > in> > > > end> > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.> > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience forall.> > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > >> > > > > --- In  , "harjeet> > bakshi"> > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/Ashji,> > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th house and2> > in> > > > 12th> > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be> > obstacle> > > > or> > > > > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereos are> > > > placed.> > > > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and 12th> > house> > > > which> > > > > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.> > > > > > despite these other factors already discussed might not give> > > > native a> > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju> > antra).> > > > > >> > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my> > friend> > > > who is> > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might have more> > than> > > > 2 or> > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case of non-marital> > > > status.> > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which is his> > 6th> > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra of> > jupiter> > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due to some> > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl the things> > didnt> > > > work> > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and might> > deliver> > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again if required:> > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.> > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu aspectedby> > > > saturn.> > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.> > > > > >> > > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > harjeet> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In> > > >  , "aarceemastro2002"> > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,> > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the periodfrom> > 10> > > > Aug> > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?> > > > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve is karak> > for> > > > 4th> > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is12th> > > > lord of B> > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.> > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.> > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highest power> > with> > > > 40> > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.> > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this house is> > > > afflicted> > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma> > (2nd> > > > and 7th> > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some> > > > affliction of> > > > > > > his happiness during this period.> > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?> > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > --- In  , "Sanjiva> > > > Sharma"> > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > You staed that:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > "In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected bySa> > and> > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > regular> > > > > > > checkups"> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Please clarify the following points.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju> > should> > > > be in> > > > > > > Libra?> > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflictedby> > Sat> > > > & > > > > > > > Mars.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the "cancer " to comeout> > as> > > > > > > disease?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the body?> > Is it> > > > > > > related to> > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- In trologyandtimingevents > > > > > > > >> > <trologyandtimingevents  , "ashsam73"> > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra and> > ve in> > > > > > > krittika> > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they are> > in> > > > 1:7 so> > > > > > > > > having enmity.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > This person might be "allergic" to authority.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by> > Sa> > > > and> > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > regular> > > > > > > checkups.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own> > > > business or> > > > > > > > > eventually do that.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even if he> > > > marries. So> > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very> > delayed in> > > > life> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for> > companionship.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't> > have> > > > > > > blessings> > > > > > > > > either.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- In  , bala> > sosale> > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa> > but> > > > has 3> > > > > > > zeros?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is still> > not> > > > > > > married.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Here are the details.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Male> > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976> > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.> > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan> > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00> > > > > > > > > > 15N32> > > > > > > > > > 32E32> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma> > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn 13> > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > Bala> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mailbeta.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have beenremoved]> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

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Dear Ashji,

i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get to

proper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were not

coming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions about it.

So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail in the

forum.

 

Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KAS

without any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software and rely

more on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and see

some success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , since i

didnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just started

studying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, but

still i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.

So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, will put

DST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted to

inform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,

and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.

 

And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believing

that 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.

 

Thanks Swati

 

 

, " Ash's Corner "

<kas wrote:

>

> Dear Swati,

>

> Please do not say wrong things .

>

> I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in this

case.

>

> If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES as

given

> in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.

>

> So what is the fact?

>

> Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan for

24th

> May 1976.

>

>

> If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and with

Daylight

> savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I am

getting 3

> hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.

>

> When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.

>

> So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with proper

data

> first and the charts have been cast accurately.

>

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

> On Behalf Of

> designhologram

> Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM

>

> Re: Question on delay of Marriage

for a

> chart with 3 zeros

>

> Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List

>

> There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay of

> marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus " , and marriage timing, dated

> 14 feb 2007

> the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put to

test

> their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.

> I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participated

in

> the discussion .

>

> this is a link to one of the messages.

> /message/14224

>

> the details for the chart are , although i would like to point that

once

> this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken and

> lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs to

make

> those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,

> which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on this

> with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can be of

> help.

> according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini ,

> while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancer

instead

> of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr softwares

> as well,

> parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std time

> zone.

> while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time

> zone as well.

>

> Details

>

> date: 24th may 1976 ,

> place : khartoum sundan

> time: 10:20

>

> timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for the

> year 1976 and also put DSt )

>

> here are the sites for reference for correcting:

> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118

> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118 & syear=1970>

> & syear=1970

> http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi

>

> Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart for

study

> from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and oter

> characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.

>

> Thanks once again

> Swati

>

>

> <%40> , " ashsam73 "

> ashsam73@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramesh,

> >

> > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me

> > attempt it.

> >

> > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial

> > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7 bindus.

> > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst and

it

> > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.

> >

> > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so its

> > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not LoD

or

> > LoE for 12th as B.

> >

> > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju is

not

> > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is important as

> > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with sperm

count

> > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the idea.

> > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in deeper

so

> > what to do....

> >

> > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same time

> > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.

> >

> > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moon is

> > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.

> >

> > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd

> > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its

> > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose

> Jupiter.

> >

> > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control over

6th

> > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4 bindus.

> >

> > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the 1st

> > house results, i.e. quality.

> >

> > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and we

get

> > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other planets

> > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets / lagna

> > are supporting Jupiter.

> >

> > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and they

are

> >

> > 1) Lagna

> > 2) Sun

> > 3) Moon

> > 4) Mars

> > 5) Mercury

> > 6) Jupiter,

> > 7) Venus

> >

> > So these all are supporting except Saturn.

> >

> > Hope that helps,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> >

> <%40> ,

" aarceemastro2002 "

> > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,

> > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and techniques

> > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, it can

> > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.

> > > But my one query remained pending.

> > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10

> relationship

> > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other hand

Ma

> > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of

> > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV points

?

> > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be the

role

> > > of Ju in this context?

> > > I think this time you will reply.

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> <%40> , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinion and

> it

> > > > need not be right.

> > > >

> > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve when its

> > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have atleast

3

> > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.

> > > >

> > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can have such

> > > strong

> > > > relationships.

> > > >

> > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not have

> that

> > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able to

clarify

> > > > with dates and times of such.

> > > >

> > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt

> > > maritial

> > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7th

> sight

> > > of

> > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoilt and

> he

> > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple relationships

> so

> > > no

> > > > doubt about that.

> > > >

> > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in

7th

> > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry. That

> will

> > > > be due to his family status or intervention.

> > > >

> > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happiness in

> > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result and moslty

in

> > > 2nd

> > > > or 3rd sector.

> > > >

> > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn't

given

> so

> > > > far, why will it give now going in future?

> > > >

> > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.

> > > >

> > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and that

will

> > > also

> > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and lets

> watch,

> > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.

> > > >

> > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us

> > > posted

> > > > on the outcome.

> > > >

> > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give marriage

> > > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has

> said...

> > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2nd or

> 3rd

> > > > sector... is what i feel...

> > > >

> > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it does not

> > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > >

> <%40> ,

> " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,

> > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov

1973.

> > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-

> > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.

> > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination

> > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9

combination.

> > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

> > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

> > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.

> > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.

> > > > >

> > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of age i.e.

> > > after

> > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?

> > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.

> > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.

> > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in

> > > marriage.Moon

> > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two

> > > malefics

> > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.

> > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo and

Ra.This

> > > may

> > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.

> > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in

> > > navamsa.

> > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.

> > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord)

aspects

> > > his

> > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.

> > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity

> towards

> > > one

> > > > > another.

> > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus

> > > reducing

> > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on

> 12th

> > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housed

for

> > > > > marriage purpose.

> > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10

> relationship.Ju

> > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these

> > > > > relationship.

> > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in

> > > detail ?

> > > > > I think this relationship brings very important for this

chart.

> > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only last

> two

> > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.

> > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.It

means

> > > > > native should have marriage.

> > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.

> > > Sometimes he

> > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is

> hypocritic

> > > > > also.

> > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according to

me

> > > it

> > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being

6th

> > > lord.

> > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagna and

> > > its

> > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.

> > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and

> > > conjunction

> > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.

> > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried ?

> > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but it

did

> > > not

> > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.

> > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did not

happen.

> > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD to Me

> LoE.

> > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it aspects

> > > house

> > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should have

shown

> > > its

> > > > > result.

> > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> <%40> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know what

> happens

> > > in

> > > > > end

> > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.

> > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for

> all.

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> <%40> , " harjeet

> > > bakshi "

> > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/Ashji,

> > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th house

and

> 2

> > > in

> > > > > 12th

> > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be

> > > obstacle

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereos

are

> > > > > placed.

> > > > > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and 12th

> > > house

> > > > > which

> > > > > > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.

> > > > > > > despite these other factors already discussed might not

give

> > > > > native a

> > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju

> > > antra).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my

> > > friend

> > > > > who is

> > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might have

more

> > > than

> > > > > 2 or

> > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case of

non-marital

> > > > > status.

> > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which is

his

> > > 6th

> > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra of

> > > jupiter

> > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due to

some

> > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl the

things

> > > didnt

> > > > > work

> > > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and might

> > > deliver

> > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again if

required

> :

> > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu aspected

> by

> > > > > saturn.

> > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > >

> <%40> ,

" aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period

> from

> > > 10

> > > > > Aug

> > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > > > > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve is

karak

> > > for

> > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is

> 12th

> > > > > lord of B

> > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.

> > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.

> > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highest

power

> > > with

> > > > > 40

> > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.

> > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this house

is

> > > > > afflicted

> > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma

> > > (2nd

> > > > > and 7th

> > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some

> > > > > affliction of

> > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.

> > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?

> > > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > >

> <%40> , " Sanjiva

> > > > > Sharma "

> > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You staed that:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > " In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by

> Sa

> > > and

> > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for

> > > regular

> > > > > > > > checkups "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following points.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju

> > > should

> > > > > be in

> > > > > > > > Libra?

> > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted

> by

> > > Sat

> > > > > &

> > > > > > > > Mars.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the " cancer " to come

> out

> > > as

> > > > > > > > disease?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the

body?

> > > Is it

> > > > > > > > related to

> > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > trologyandtimingevents

> <trologyandtimingevents%40>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > <trologyandtimingevents

> <trologyandtimingevents%40> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra

and

> > > ve in

> > > > > > > > krittika

> > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they

are

> > > in

> > > > > 1:7 so

> > > > > > > > > > having enmity.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This person might be " allergic " to authority.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected

by

> > > Sa

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for

> > > regular

> > > > > > > > checkups.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own

> > > > > business or

> > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even if

he

> > > > > marries. So

> > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very

> > > delayed in

> > > > > life

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for

> > > companionship.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't

> > > have

> > > > > > > > blessings

> > > > > > > > > > either.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> <%40> , bala

> > > sosale

> > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa

> > > but

> > > > > has 3

> > > > > > > > zeros?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is

still

> > > not

> > > > > > > > married.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > > > > > > > 15N32

> > > > > > > > > > > 32E32

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn

13

> > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > Bala

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail

> beta.

> > > > > > > > > > >

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Dear

Swati,

 

You

still don’t get it. I don’t have any contention, I just want to get

correct facts.

 

1) Bala has given Lagna to be

at around 19 Deg or so, if memory serves me right.

2) You are getting 5 Cancer

3) From astro.com/atlas, the

time zone that is coming up is 3 hrs east and daylight savings time which takes

the lagna to 22 Gemini XX

4) JHL gives 2 hours East with

Standard Time

 

So

what is the real fact, that all I want to know.

 

I

have tired to show u how If I use astro.com/atlas is giving results I am

getting Gemini lagna.

 

Can

someone please check this and let us know what the real setting is for Khartum, Sudan on 24th May 1976?

 

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of designhologram

Tuesday August 5, 2008 3:00

PM

To:

 

Subject:

Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3

zeros

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ashji,

i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get to

proper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were not

coming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions about it.

So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail in the

forum.

 

Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KAS

without any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software and rely

more on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and see

some success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , since i

didnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just started

studying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, but

still i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.

So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, will put

DST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted to

inform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,

and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.

 

And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believing

that 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.

 

Thanks Swati

 

,

" Ash's Corner "

<kas wrote:

>

> Dear Swati,

>

> Please do not say wrong things .

>

> I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in this

case.

>

> If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES as

given

> in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.

>

> So what is the fact?

>

> Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan for

24th

> May 1976.

>

>

> If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and with

Daylight

> savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I am

getting 3

> hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.

>

> When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.

>

> So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with proper

data

> first and the charts have been cast accurately.

>

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

>

On Behalf Of

> designhologram

> Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM

>

> Re: Question on delay of Marriage

for a

> chart with 3 zeros

>

> Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List

>

> There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay of

> marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus " , and marriage timing, dated

> 14 feb 2007

> the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put to

test

> their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.

> I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participated

in

> the discussion .

>

> this is a link to one of the messages.

> /message/14224

>

> the details for the chart are , although i would like to point that

once

> this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken and

> lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs to

make

> those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,

> which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on this

> with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can be of

> help.

> according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini ,

> while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancer

instead

> of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr softwares

> as well,

> parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std time

> zone.

> while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time

> zone as well.

>

> Details

>

> date: 24th may 1976 ,

> place : khartoum sundan

> time: 10:20

>

> timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for the

> year 1976 and also put DSt )

>

> here are the sites for reference for correcting:

> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118

> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118 & syear=1970>

> & syear=1970

> http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi

>

> Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart for

study

> from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and oter

> characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.

>

> Thanks once again

> Swati

>

>

> <%40> ,

" ashsam73 "

> ashsam73@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramesh,

> >

> > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me

> > attempt it.

> >

> > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial

> > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7 bindus.

> > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst and

it

> > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.

> >

> > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so its

> > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not LoD

or

> > LoE for 12th as B.

> >

> > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju is

not

> > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is important as

> > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with sperm

count

> > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the idea.

> > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in deeper

so

> > what to do....

> >

> > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same time

> > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.

> >

> > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moon is

> > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.

> >

> > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd

> > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its

> > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose

> Jupiter.

> >

> > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control over

6th

> > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4 bindus.

> >

> > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the 1st

> > house results, i.e. quality.

> >

> > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and we

get

> > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other planets

> > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets / lagna

> > are supporting Jupiter.

> >

> > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and they

are

> >

> > 1) Lagna

> > 2) Sun

> > 3) Moon

> > 4) Mars

> > 5) Mercury

> > 6) Jupiter,

> > 7) Venus

> >

> > So these all are supporting except Saturn.

> >

> > Hope that helps,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> >

> <%40> ,

" aarceemastro2002 "

> > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,

> > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and

techniques

> > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, it

can

> > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.

> > > But my one query remained pending.

> > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10

> relationship

> > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other hand

Ma

> > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of

> > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV

points

?

> > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be the

role

> > > of Ju in this context?

> > > I think this time you will reply.

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> <%40> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinion

and

> it

> > > > need not be right.

> > > >

> > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve

when its

> > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have

atleast

3

> > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can

clarify.

> > > >

> > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can have

such

> > > strong

> > > > relationships.

> > > >

> > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not

have

> that

> > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able to

clarify

> > > > with dates and times of such.

> > > >

> > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will

spoilt

> > > maritial

> > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having

7th

> sight

> > > of

> > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its

spoilt and

> he

> > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple

relationships

> so

> > > no

> > > > doubt about that.

> > > >

> > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is

in

7th

> > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry.

That

> will

> > > > be due to his family status or intervention.

> > > >

> > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less

happiness in

> > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result and

moslty

in

> > > 2nd

> > > > or 3rd sector.

> > > >

> > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn't

given

> so

> > > > far, why will it give now going in future?

> > > >

> > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.

> > > >

> > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and

that

will

> > > also

> > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and

lets

> watch,

> > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.

> > > >

> > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep

us

> > > posted

> > > > on the outcome.

> > > >

> > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give

marriage

> > > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has

> said...

> > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end

2nd or

> 3rd

> > > > sector... is what i feel...

> > > >

> > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it does

not

> > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > >

> <%40> ,

> " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,

> > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27

Nov

1973.

> > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-

> > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.

> > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination

> > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9

combination.

> > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10

combination.

> > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10

combination.

> > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.

> > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.

> > > > >

> > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of

age i.e.

> > > after

> > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?

> > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.

> > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.

> > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in

> > > marriage.Moon

> > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates

two

> > > malefics

> > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.

> > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo

and

Ra.This

> > > may

> > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.

> > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra

only in

> > > navamsa.

> > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.

> > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th

lord)

aspects

> > > his

> > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.

> > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means

enmity

> towards

> > > one

> > > > > another.

> > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong

points.Thus

> > > reducing

> > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic

influence on

> 12th

> > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important

housed

for

> > > > > marriage purpose.

> > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10

> relationship.Ju

> > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand

these

> > > > > relationship.

> > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to

me in

> > > detail ?

> > > > > I think this relationship brings very important for

this

chart.

> > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found

only last

> two

> > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.

> > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in

WS.It

means

> > > > > native should have marriage.

> > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard

worker.

> > > Sometimes he

> > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is

> hypocritic

> > > > > also.

> > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But

according to

me

> > > it

> > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its

being

6th

> > > lord.

> > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between

lagna and

> > > its

> > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point

scale.

> > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and

> > > conjunction

> > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.

> > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still

unmarried ?

> > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE

but it

did

> > > not

> > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.

> > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did

not

happen.

> > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is

SD to Me

> LoE.

> > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it

aspects

> > > house

> > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should

have

shown

> > > its

> > > > > result.

> > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> <%40> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to

know what

> happens

> > > in

> > > > > end

> > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.

> > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning

experience for

> all.

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> <%40> , " harjeet

> > > bakshi "

> > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/Ashji,

> > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero

in 5th house

and

> 2

> > > in

> > > > > 12th

> > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that

there would be

> > > obstacle

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the house

where zereos

are

> > > > > placed.

> > > > > > > so the native might lack something related

to 5th and 12th

> > > house

> > > > > which

> > > > > > > might be associated with relationship and

pleasures.

> > > > > > > despite these other factors already

discussed might not

give

> > > > > native a

> > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he

marries(might be in Ju

> > > antra).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a

chart of my

> > > friend

> > > > > who is

> > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he

might have

more

> > > than

> > > > > 2 or

> > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case

of

non-marital

> > > > > status.

> > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra

(which is

his

> > > 6th

> > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in

current antra of

> > > jupiter

> > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but

unfortunately due to

some

> > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of the

girl the

things

> > > didnt

> > > > > work

> > > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju

antra and might

> > > deliver

> > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data

again if

required

> :

> > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon

and rahu aspected

> by

> > > > > saturn.

> > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > >

> <%40> ,

" aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main

during the period

> from

> > > 10

> > > > > Aug

> > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > > > > > > > The native is currently passing through

Ve MD.Ve is

karak

> > > for

> > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house

matter. Me who is

> 12th

> > > > > lord of B

> > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the

chart is in house A.

> > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5

bindus.

> > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B

with highest

power

> > > with

> > > > > 40

> > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for

Ju in WS.

> > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness

also but this house

is

> > > > > afflicted

> > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving

malefic sight of Ma

> > > (2nd

> > > > > and 7th

> > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju.

Hence there is some

> > > > > affliction of

> > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.

> > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this

house ?

> > > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and

regards.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > >

> <%40> , " Sanjiva

> > > > > Sharma "

> > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You staed that:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > " In this chart also Ju is in

Libra and its aspected by

> Sa

> > > and

> > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to

cancer. He must go for

> > > regular

> > > > > > > > checkups "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following

points.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it

necessary that Ju

> > > should

> > > > > be in

> > > > > > > > Libra?

> > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju

should be afflicted

> by

> > > Sat

> > > > > &

> > > > > > > > Mars.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of

the " cancer " to come

> out

> > > as

> > > > > > > > disease?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on

which part of the

body?

> > > Is it

> > > > > > > > related to

> > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > trologyandtimingevents

> <trologyandtimingevents%40>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > <trologyandtimingevents

> <trologyandtimingevents%40> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are

3 zeros, ju in Libra

and

> > > ve in

> > > > > > > > krittika

> > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this

Venus and that too they

are

> > > in

> > > > > 1:7 so

> > > > > > > > > > having enmity.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This person might be

" allergic " to authority.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in

Libra and its aspected

by

> > > Sa

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to

cancer. He must go for

> > > regular

> > > > > > > > checkups.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and

might want to do his own

> > > > > business or

> > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of

non marital status.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > His relationships might not

last for long, even if

he

> > > > > marries. So

> > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of

marriage it might be very

> > > delayed in

> > > > > life

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years

and that too for

> > > companionship.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > However I feel this person

might not marry, he don't

> > > have

> > > > > > > > blessings

> > > > > > > > > > either.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> <%40> , bala

> > > sosale

> > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where

there is no delay by Ju or Sa

> > > but

> > > > > has 3

> > > > > > > > zeros?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate

delay in this chart? He is

still

> > > not

> > > > > > > > married.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > > > > > > > 15N32

> > > > > > > > > > > 32E32

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39

Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar

18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn

13

> > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > Bala

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about

the all-new Mail

> beta.

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Hi Ash,Time Zone for Khartoum, Sudan is UTC +2 hours. For 1976, DST started on Sunday the 25th April 1976 at 00:00:00 hours, on which day the offset changed from UTC +2 hours to UTC +3 hours. It ended on Thursday the 14 October 1976 at 00:00:00 hours when the clock reverted to UTC +2 hours from UTC +3hours. You can check the link below:http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=118 & year=1976Hope I have been of help.RegardsSunil

 

--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ash's Corner <kas wrote:

Ash's Corner <kasRE: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:34 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Swati,

 

You still don¢t get it. I don¢t have any contention, I just want to get correct facts.

 

1) Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memory serves me right.

2) You are getting 5 Cancer

3) From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrs east and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX

4) JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time

 

So what is the real fact, that all I want to know.

 

I have tired to show u how If I use astro.com/atlas is giving results I am getting Gemini lagna.

 

Can someone please check this and let us know what the real setting is for Khartum, Sudan on 24th May 1976?

 

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

 

 

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of designhologramTuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com[astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros

 

 

 

 

Dear Ashji,i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get toproper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were notcoming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions about it.So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail in theforum.Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KASwithout any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software and relymore on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and seesome success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , since ididnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just startedstudying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, butstill i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, will

putDST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted toinform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believingthat 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.Thanks Swatiastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's Corner"<kas wrote:>> Dear Swati,>> Please do not say wrong things .>> I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in thiscase.>> If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES asgiven> in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.>> So what is the fact?>> Can someone please resolve this DST

business, for Khartum, Sudan for24th> May 1976.>>> If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and withDaylight> savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I amgetting 3> hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.>> When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.>> So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with properdata> first and the charts have been cast accurately.>>> Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca>> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of> designhologram> Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriagefor a> chart with 3 zeros>> Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List>> There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay of> marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus", and marriage timing, dated> 14 feb 2007> the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put totest> their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.> I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had

participatedin> the discussion .>> this is a link to one of the messages.> http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/ message/14224>> the details for the chart are , although i would like to point thatonce> this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken and> lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs tomake> those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,> which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on this> with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can be of> help.> according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini ,> while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancerinstead> of

earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr softwares> as well,> parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std time> zone.> while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time> zone as well.>> Details>> date: 24th may 1976 ,> place : khartoum sundan> time: 10:20>> timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for the> year 1976 and also put DSt )>> here are the sites for reference for correcting:> http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone. html?n=118> <http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone. html?n=118 & syear=1970>>

& syear=1970> http://www.astro. com/cgi/ade. cgi>> Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart forstudy> from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and oter> characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.>> Thanks once again> Swati>> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> ashsam73@ wrote:> >> > Dear Ramesh,> >> > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me> > attempt it.> >> > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial> > happiness. Here if u go

deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7 bindus.> > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst andit> > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.> >> > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so its> > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not LoDor> > LoE for 12th as B.> >> > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju isnot> > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is important as> > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with spermcount> > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the idea.> > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in deeperso> > what to do....> >> > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same

time> > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.> >> > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moon is> > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.> >> > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd> > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its> > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose> Jupiter.> >> > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control over6th> > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4 bindus.> >> > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the 1st> > house results, i.e. quality.> >> > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and weget> > say power of Ju = 7 means its

making such relation and other planets> > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets / lagna> > are supporting Jupiter.> >> > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and theyare> >> > 1) Lagna> > 2) Sun> > 3) Moon> > 4) Mars> > 5) Mercury> > 6) Jupiter,> > 7) Venus> >> > So these all are supporting except Saturn.> >> > Hope that helps,> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> >> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,"aarceemastro2002"> > aarceemastro2002@

wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,> > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and techniques> > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, it can> > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.> > > But my one query remained pending.> > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10> relationship> > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other handMa> > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of> > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV points?> > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be therole> > > of Ju in this context?> > > I think this time you will reply.> > > Thanks and regards.> > >

Ramesh Mishra> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinion and> it> > > > need not be right.> > > >> > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve when its> > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have atleast3> > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.> > > >> > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can have such> > > strong> > > > relationships.>

> > >> > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not have> that> > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able toclarify> > > > with dates and times of such.> > > >> > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt> > > maritial> > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7th> sight> > > of> > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoilt and> he> > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple relationships> so> > > no> > > > doubt about that.> > > >> > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in7th> > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might

marry. That> will> > > > be due to his family status or intervention.> > > >> > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happiness in> > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result and mosltyin> > > 2nd> > > > or 3rd sector.> > > >> > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn'tgiven> so> > > > far, why will it give now going in future?> > > >> > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.> > > >> > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and thatwill> > > also> > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and lets> watch,> > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.> >

> >> > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us> > > posted> > > > on the outcome.> > > >> > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give marriage> > > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has> said...> > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2nd or> 3rd> > > > sector... is what i feel...> > > >> > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it does not> > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....> > > >> > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > >> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,> "aarceemastro2002"> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,> > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov1973.> > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-> > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.> > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination> > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9combination.> > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > >

> 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.> > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.> > > > >> > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of age i.e.> > > after> > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?> > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.> > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.> > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in> > > marriage.Moon> > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two> > > malefics> > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.> > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo andRa.This> > > may> > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.> > > >

> 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in> > > navamsa.> > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.> > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord)aspects> > > his> > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.> > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity> towards> > > one> > > > > another.> > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus> > > reducing> > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on> 12th> > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housedfor> > > > > marriage purpose.> > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10> relationship.

Ju> > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these> > > > > relationship.> > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in> > > detail ?> > > > > I think this relationship brings very important for thischart.> > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only last> two> > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.> > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.Itmeans> > > > > native should have marriage.> > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.> > > Sometimes he> > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is> hypocritic> > > > > also.> > > > > Ash !

You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according tome> > > it> > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being6th> > > lord.> > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagna and> > > its> > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.> > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and> > > conjunction> > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.> > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried ?> > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but itdid> > > not> > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.> > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did nothappen.> > > >

> He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD to Me> LoE.> > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it aspects> > > house> > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should haveshown> > > its> > > > > result.> > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?> > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will

be curious to know what> happens> > > in> > > > > end> > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.> > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for> all.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > >> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "harjeet> > > bakshi"> > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/ Ashji,> > > > > > > i

think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th houseand> 2> > > in> > > > > 12th> > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be> > > obstacle> > > > > or> > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereosare> > > > > placed.> > > > > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and 12th> > > house> > > > > which> > > > > > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.> > > > > > > despite these other factors already discussed might notgive> > > > > native a> > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju> > > antra).> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my> > > friend> > > > > who is> > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might havemore> > > than> > > > > 2 or> > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case ofnon-marital> > > > > status.> > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which ishis> > > 6th> > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra of> > > jupiter> > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due tosome> > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl thethings> > > didnt> > > > > work> > >

> > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and might> > > deliver> > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again ifrequired> :> > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.> > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu aspected> by> > > > > saturn.> > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In> > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com>

<astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,"aarceemastro2002"> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,> > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period> from> > > 10> > > > > Aug> > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?> > > > > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve iskarak> > > for> > > > > 4th> > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is> 12th> > > > > lord of B> > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.> > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are

strong with 5 bindus.> > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highestpower> > > with> > > > > 40> > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.> > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this houseis> > > > > afflicted> > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma> > > (2nd> > > > > and 7th> > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some> > > > > affliction of> > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.> > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?> > > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and

regards.> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "Sanjiva> > > > > Sharma"> > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > You staed that:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by> Sa> > > and> > > > >

> > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > regular> > > > > > > > checkups"> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following points.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju> > > should> > > > > be in> > > > > > > > Libra?> > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted> by> > > Sat> > > > > & > > > > > > > > Mars.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the "cancer " to come>

out> > > as> > > > > > > > disease?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of thebody?> > > Is it> > > > > > > > related to> > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > trologyandtimingeve nts > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com>> > > > > > > >

>> > > <trologyandtimingeve nts > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libraand> > > ve in> > > > > > > > krittika> > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too theyare> > > in> > > > > 1:7 so> > > > > > > > > > having enmity.> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > This person might be "allergic" to authority.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspectedby> > > Sa> > > > > and> > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > regular> > > > > > > > checkups.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own> > > > > business or> > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital

status.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even ifhe> > > > > marries. So> > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very> > > delayed in> > > > > life> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for> > > companionship.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't> > > have> > > > > > > > blessings> > > > > > > > > > either.> > > > > > > > > >> > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , bala> > > sosale> > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa> > > but> > > > > has 3> > > > > > > > zeros?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He isstill> > > not> > > > > > > > married.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Male> > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976> > > > > > > > >

> > 10.20 AM.> > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan> > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00> > > > > > > > > > > 15N32> > > > > > > > > > > 32E32> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma> > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn13> > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > > Bala> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >

> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail> beta.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been> removed]> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

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I did yesterday.khartoum, sudan24 may 1976time zone -2daylight savings observed that day that year15N3632E32lagna for birthtime 10:20 am  is kark 4d53m41sOn 6-Aug-08, at 7:34 AM, Ash's Corner wrote:Dear Swati, You still don’t get it. I don’t have any contention, I just want to get correct facts. 1)    Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memory serves me right.2)    You are getting 5 Cancer3)    From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrs east and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX4)    JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time So what is the real fact, that all I want to know. I have tired to show u how If I use astro.com/atlas is giving results I am getting Gemini lagna. Can someone please check this and let us know what the real setting is for Khartum, Sudan on 24th May 1976?  Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca    On Behalf Of designhologramSent: Tuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PMTo:  Subject:  Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros Dear Ashji,i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get toproper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were notcoming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions about it.So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail in theforum.Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KASwithout any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software and relymore on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and seesome success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , since ididnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just startedstudying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, butstill i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, will putDST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted toinform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believingthat 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.Thanks Swati--- In  , "Ash's Corner"<kas wrote:>> Dear Swati,>> Please do not say wrong things .>> I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in thiscase.>> If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES asgiven> in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.>> So what is the fact?>> Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan for24th> May 1976.>>> If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and withDaylight> savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I amgetting 3> hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.>> When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.>> So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with properdata> first and the charts have been cast accurately.>>> Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca>>'>http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca>>   > On Behalf Of> designhologram> Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM> To:  > Re: Question on delay of Marriagefor a> chart with 3 zeros>> Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List>> There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay of> marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus", and marriage timing, dated> 14 feb 2007> the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put totest> their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.> I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participatedin> the discussion .>> this is a link to one of the messages.> /message/14224>> the details for the chart are , although i would like to point thatonce> this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken and> lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs tomake> those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,> which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on this> with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can be of> help.> according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini ,> while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancerinstead> of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr softwares> as well,> parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std time> zone.> while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time> zone as well.>> Details>> date: 24th may 1976 ,> place : khartoum sundan> time: 10:20>> timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for the> year 1976 and also put DSt )>> here are the sites for reference for correcting:> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118>'>http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118 & syear=1970>> & syear=1970> http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi>> Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart forstudy> from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and oter> characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.>> Thanks once again> Swati>> --- In  > <%40> , "ashsam73"> ashsam73@ wrote:> >> > Dear Ramesh,> >> > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me> > attempt it.> >> > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial> > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7 bindus.> > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst andit> > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.> >> > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so its> > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not LoDor> > LoE for 12th as B.> >> > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju isnot> > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is important as> > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with spermcount> > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the idea.> > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in deeperso> > what to do....> >> > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same time> > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.> >> > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moon is> > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.> >> > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd> > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its> > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose> Jupiter.> >> > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control over6th> > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4 bindus.> >> > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the 1st> > house results, i.e. quality.> >> > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and weget> > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other planets> > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets / lagna> > are supporting Jupiter.> >> > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and theyare> >> > 1) Lagna> > 2) Sun> > 3) Moon> > 4) Mars> > 5) Mercury> > 6) Jupiter,> > 7) Venus> >> > So these all are supporting except Saturn.> >> > Hope that helps,> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> >> > --- In  > <%40> ,"aarceemastro2002"> > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,> > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and techniques> > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, it can> > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.> > > But my one query remained pending.> > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10> relationship> > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other handMa> > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of> > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV points?> > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be therole> > > of Ju in this context?> > > I think this time you will reply.> > > Thanks and regards.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > > --- In  > <%40> , "ashsam73"> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinion and> it> > > > need not be right.> > > >> > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve when its> > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have atleast3> > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.> > > >> > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can have such> > > strong> > > > relationships.> > > >> > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not have> that> > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able toclarify> > > > with dates and times of such.> > > >> > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt> > > maritial> > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7th> sight> > > of> > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoilt and> he> > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple relationships> so> > > no> > > > doubt about that.> > > >> > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in7th> > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry. That> will> > > > be due to his family status or intervention.> > > >> > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happiness in> > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result and mosltyin> > > 2nd> > > > or 3rd sector.> > > >> > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn'tgiven> so> > > > far, why will it give now going in future?> > > >> > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.> > > >> > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and thatwill> > > also> > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and lets> watch,> > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.> > > >> > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us> > > posted> > > > on the outcome.> > > >> > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give marriage> > > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has> said...> > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2nd or> 3rd> > > > sector... is what i feel...> > > >> > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it does not> > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....> > > >> > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > >> > > > --- In  > <%40> ,> "aarceemastro2002"> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,> > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov1973.> > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-> > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.> > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination> > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9combination.> > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.> > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.> > > > >> > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of age i.e.> > > after> > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?> > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.> > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.> > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in> > > marriage.Moon> > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two> > > malefics> > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.> > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo andRa.This> > > may> > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.> > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in> > > navamsa.> > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.> > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord)aspects> > > his> > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.> > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity> towards> > > one> > > > > another.> > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus> > > reducing> > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on> 12th> > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housedfor> > > > > marriage purpose.> > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10> relationship.Ju> > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these> > > > > relationship.> > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in> > > detail ?> > > > > I think this relationship brings very important for thischart.> > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only last> two> > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.> > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.Itmeans> > > > > native should have marriage.> > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.> > > Sometimes he> > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is> hypocritic> > > > > also.> > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according tome> > > it> > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being6th> > > lord.> > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagna and> > > its> > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.> > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and> > > conjunction> > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.> > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried ?> > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but itdid> > > not> > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.> > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did nothappen.> > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD to Me> LoE.> > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it aspects> > > house> > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should haveshown> > > its> > > > > result.> > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?> > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > --- In  > <%40> , "ashsam73"> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know what> happens> > > in> > > > > end> > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.> > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for> all.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In  > <%40> , "harjeet> > > bakshi"> > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/Ashji,> > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th houseand> 2> > > in> > > > > 12th> > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be> > > obstacle> > > > > or> > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereosare> > > > > placed.> > > > > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and 12th> > > house> > > > > which> > > > > > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.> > > > > > > despite these other factors already discussed might notgive> > > > > native a> > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju> > > antra).> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my> > > friend> > > > > who is> > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might havemore> > > than> > > > > 2 or> > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case ofnon-marital> > > > > status.> > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which ishis> > > 6th> > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra of> > > jupiter> > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due tosome> > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl thethings> > > didnt> > > > > work> > > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and might> > > deliver> > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again ifrequired> :> > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.> > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu aspected> by> > > > > saturn.> > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In> > > > >  > <%40> ,"aarceemastro2002"> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,> > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period> from> > > 10> > > > > Aug> > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?> > > > > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve iskarak> > > for> > > > > 4th> > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is> 12th> > > > > lord of B> > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.> > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.> > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highestpower> > > with> > > > > 40> > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.> > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this houseis> > > > > afflicted> > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma> > > (2nd> > > > > and 7th> > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some> > > > > affliction of> > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.> > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?> > > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > --- In  > <%40> , "Sanjiva> > > > > Sharma"> > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > You staed that:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by> Sa> > > and> > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > regular> > > > > > > > checkups"> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following points.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju> > > should> > > > > be in> > > > > > > > Libra?> > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted> by> > > Sat> > > > > & > > > > > > > > Mars.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the "cancer " to come> out> > > as> > > > > > > > disease?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of thebody?> > > Is it> > > > > > > > related to> > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- In trologyandtimingevents > <trologyandtimingevents%40>> > > > > > > > >> > > <trologyandtimingevents > <trologyandtimingevents%40> , "ashsam73"> > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libraand> > > ve in> > > > > > > > krittika> > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too theyare> > > in> > > > > 1:7 so> > > > > > > > > > having enmity.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This person might be "allergic" to authority.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspectedby> > > Sa> > > > > and> > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > regular> > > > > > > > checkups.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own> > > > > business or> > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even ifhe> > > > > marries. So> > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very> > > delayed in> > > > > life> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for> > > companionship.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't> > > have> > > > > > > > blessings> > > > > > > > > > either.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --- In  > <%40> , bala> > > sosale> > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa> > > but> > > > > has 3> > > > > > > > zeros?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He isstill> > > not> > > > > > > > married.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Male> > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976> > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.> > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan> > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00> > > > > > > > > > > 15N32> > > > > > > > > > > 32E32> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma> > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn13> > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > > Bala> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail> beta.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been> removed]> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

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dear sunilas per all atlases i have access to it should be -2 time zone with dst so eedt and add -3 to get utOn 6-Aug-08, at 8:15 AM, Sunil Sharma wrote:Hi Ash,Time Zone for Khartoum, Sudan is UTC +2 hours. For 1976, DST started on Sunday the 25th April 1976 at 00:00:00 hours, on which day the offset changed from UTC +2 hours to UTC +3 hours. It ended on Thursday the 14 October 1976 at 00:00:00 hours when the clock reverted to UTC +2 hours from UTC +3hours. You can check the link below:http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=118 & year=1976Hope I have been of help.RegardsSunil --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas wrote:Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kasRE: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:34 AMDear Swati, You still don’t get it. I don’t have any contention, I just want to get correct facts. 1)    Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memory serves me right.2)    You are getting 5 Cancer3)    From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrs east and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX4)    JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time So what is the real fact, that all I want to know. I have tired to show u how If I use astro.com/atlas is giving results I am getting Gemini lagna. Can someone please check this and let us know what the real setting is for Khartum, Sudan on 24th May 1976?  Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca  astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of designhologramSent: Tuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PMTo: astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSubject: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros Dear Ashji,i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get toproper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were notcoming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions about it.So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail in theforum.Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KASwithout any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software and relymore on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and seesome success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , since ididnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just startedstudying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, butstill i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, will putDST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted toinform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believingthat 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.Thanks Swati--- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's Corner"<kas wrote:>> Dear Swati,>> Please do not say wrong things .>> I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in thiscase.>> If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES asgiven> in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.>> So what is the fact?>> Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan for24th> May 1976.>>> If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and withDaylight> savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I amgetting 3> hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.>> When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.>> So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with properdata> first and the charts have been cast accurately.>>> Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca>>  astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of> designhologram> Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM> To: astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriagefor a> chart with 3 zeros>> Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List>> There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay of> marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus", and marriage timing, dated> 14 feb 2007> the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put totest> their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.> I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participatedin> the discussion .>> this is a link to one of the messages.> http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/ message/14224>> the details for the chart are , although i would like to point thatonce> this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken and> lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs tomake> those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,> which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on this> with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can be of> help.> according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini ,> while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancerinstead> of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr softwares> as well,> parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std time> zone.> while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time> zone as well.>> Details>> date: 24th may 1976 ,> place : khartoum sundan> time: 10:20>> timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for the> year 1976 and also put DSt )>> here are the sites for reference for correcting:> http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone. html?n=118> <http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone. html?n=118 & syear=1970>> & syear=1970> http://www.astro. com/cgi/ade. cgi>> Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart forstudy> from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and oter> characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.>> Thanks once again> Swati>> --- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> ashsam73@ wrote:> >> > Dear Ramesh,> >> > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me> > attempt it.> >> > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial> > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7 bindus.> > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst andit> > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.> >> > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so its> > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not LoDor> > LoE for 12th as B.> >> > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju isnot> > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is important as> > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with spermcount> > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the idea.> > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in deeperso> > what to do....> >> > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same time> > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.> >> > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moon is> > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.> >> > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd> > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its> > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose> Jupiter.> >> > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control over6th> > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4 bindus.> >> > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the 1st> > house results, i.e. quality.> >> > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and weget> > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other planets> > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets / lagna> > are supporting Jupiter.> >> > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and theyare> >> > 1) Lagna> > 2) Sun> > 3) Moon> > 4) Mars> > 5) Mercury> > 6) Jupiter,> > 7) Venus> >> > So these all are supporting except Saturn.> >> > Hope that helps,> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> >> > --- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,"aarceemastro2002"> > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,> > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and techniques> > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, it can> > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.> > > But my one query remained pending.> > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10> relationship> > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other handMa> > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of> > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV points?> > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be therole> > > of Ju in this context?> > > I think this time you will reply.> > > Thanks and regards.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > > --- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinion and> it> > > > need not be right.> > > >> > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve when its> > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have atleast3> > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.> > > >> > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can have such> > > strong> > > > relationships.> > > >> > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not have> that> > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able toclarify> > > > with dates and times of such.> > > >> > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt> > > maritial> > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7th> sight> > > of> > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoilt and> he> > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple relationships> so> > > no> > > > doubt about that.> > > >> > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in7th> > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry. That> will> > > > be due to his family status or intervention.> > > >> > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happiness in> > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result and mosltyin> > > 2nd> > > > or 3rd sector.> > > >> > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn'tgiven> so> > > > far, why will it give now going in future?> > > >> > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.> > > >> > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and thatwill> > > also> > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and lets> watch,> > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.> > > >> > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us> > > posted> > > > on the outcome.> > > >> > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give marriage> > > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has> said...> > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2nd or> 3rd> > > > sector... is what i feel...> > > >> > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it does not> > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....> > > >> > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > >> > > > --- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,> "aarceemastro2002"> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,> > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov1973.> > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-> > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.> > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination> > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9combination.> > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.> > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.> > > > >> > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of age i.e.> > > after> > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?> > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.> > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.> > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in> > > marriage.Moon> > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two> > > malefics> > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.> > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo andRa.This> > > may> > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.> > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in> > > navamsa.> > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.> > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord)aspects> > > his> > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.> > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity> towards> > > one> > > > > another.> > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus> > > reducing> > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on> 12th> > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housedfor> > > > > marriage purpose.> > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10> relationship. Ju> > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these> > > > > relationship.> > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in> > > detail ?> > > > > I think this relationship brings very important for thischart.> > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only last> two> > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.> > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.Itmeans> > > > > native should have marriage.> > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.> > > Sometimes he> > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is> hypocritic> > > > > also.> > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according tome> > > it> > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being6th> > > lord.> > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagna and> > > its> > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.> > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and> > > conjunction> > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.> > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried ?> > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but itdid> > > not> > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.> > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did nothappen.> > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD to Me> LoE.> > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it aspects> > > house> > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should haveshown> > > its> > > > > result.> > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?> > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > --- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know what> happens> > > in> > > > > end> > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.> > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for> all.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "harjeet> > > bakshi"> > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/ Ashji,> > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th houseand> 2> > > in> > > > > 12th> > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be> > > obstacle> > > > > or> > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereosare> > > > > placed.> > > > > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and 12th> > > house> > > > > which> > > > > > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.> > > > > > > despite these other factors already discussed might notgive> > > > > native a> > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju> > > antra).> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my> > > friend> > > > > who is> > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might havemore> > > than> > > > > 2 or> > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case ofnon-marital> > > > > status.> > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which ishis> > > 6th> > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra of> > > jupiter> > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due tosome> > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl thethings> > > didnt> > > > > work> > > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and might> > > deliver> > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again ifrequired> :> > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.> > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu aspected> by> > > > > saturn.> > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In> > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,"aarceemastro2002"> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,> > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period> from> > > 10> > > > > Aug> > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?> > > > > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve iskarak> > > for> > > > > 4th> > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is> 12th> > > > > lord of B> > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.> > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.> > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highestpower> > > with> > > > > 40> > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.> > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this houseis> > > > > afflicted> > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma> > > (2nd> > > > > and 7th> > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some> > > > > affliction of> > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.> > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?> > > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > --- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "Sanjiva> > > > > Sharma"> > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > You staed that:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by> Sa> > > and> > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > regular> > > > > > > > checkups"> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following points.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju> > > should> > > > > be in> > > > > > > > Libra?> > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted> by> > > Sat> > > > > & > > > > > > > > Mars.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the "cancer " to come> out> > > as> > > > > > > > disease?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of thebody?> > > Is it> > > > > > > > related to> > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- In trologyandtimingeve nts > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com>> > > > > > > > >> > > <trologyandtimingeve nts > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libraand> > > ve in> > > > > > > > krittika> > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too theyare> > > in> > > > > 1:7 so> > > > > > > > > > having enmity.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This person might be "allergic" to authority.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspectedby> > > Sa> > > > > and> > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > regular> > > > > > > > checkups.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own> > > > > business or> > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even ifhe> > > > > marries. So> > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very> > > delayed in> > > > > life> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for> > > companionship.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't> > > have> > > > > > > > blessings> > > > > > > > > > either.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , bala> > > sosale> > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa> > > but> > > > > has 3> > > > > > > > zeros?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He isstill> > > not> > > > > > > > married.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Male> > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976> > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.> > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan> > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00> > > > > > > > > > > 15N32> > > > > > > > > > > 32E32> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma> > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn13> > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > > Bala> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail> beta.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been> removed]> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

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Hi Ash,Forgot to give you the co-ordinates. As per Google Earth these are:15N35 to 15N38 and 32E28 to 32E33 with Khartoum, Sudan quoted as 15 degrees 37 minutes 59.48 seconds North and 32 degrees 31 minutes 58.14 seconds longitude and latitude respectively.RegardsSunil--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ash's Corner <kas wrote:

Ash's Corner <kasRE: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:34 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Swati,

 

You still don¢t get it. I don¢t have any contention, I just want to get correct facts.

 

1) Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memory serves me right.

2) You are getting 5 Cancer

3) From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrs east and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX

4) JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time

 

So what is the real fact, that all I want to know.

 

I have tired to show u how If I use astro.com/atlas is giving results I am getting Gemini lagna.

 

Can someone please check this and let us know what the real setting is for Khartum, Sudan on 24th May 1976?

 

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

 

 

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of designhologramTuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com[astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros

 

 

 

 

Dear Ashji,i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get toproper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were notcoming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions about it.So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail in theforum.Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KASwithout any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software and relymore on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and seesome success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , since ididnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just startedstudying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, butstill i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, will

putDST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted toinform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believingthat 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.Thanks Swatiastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's Corner"<kas wrote:>> Dear Swati,>> Please do not say wrong things .>> I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in thiscase.>> If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES asgiven> in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.>> So what is the fact?>> Can someone please resolve this DST

business, for Khartum, Sudan for24th> May 1976.>>> If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and withDaylight> savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I amgetting 3> hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.>> When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.>> So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with properdata> first and the charts have been cast accurately.>>> Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca>> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of> designhologram> Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriagefor a> chart with 3 zeros>> Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List>> There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay of> marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus", and marriage timing, dated> 14 feb 2007> the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put totest> their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.> I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had

participatedin> the discussion .>> this is a link to one of the messages.> http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/ message/14224>> the details for the chart are , although i would like to point thatonce> this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken and> lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs tomake> those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,> which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on this> with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can be of> help.> according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini ,> while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancerinstead> of

earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr softwares> as well,> parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std time> zone.> while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time> zone as well.>> Details>> date: 24th may 1976 ,> place : khartoum sundan> time: 10:20>> timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for the> year 1976 and also put DSt )>> here are the sites for reference for correcting:> http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone. html?n=118> <http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone. html?n=118 & syear=1970>>

& syear=1970> http://www.astro. com/cgi/ade. cgi>> Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart forstudy> from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and oter> characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.>> Thanks once again> Swati>> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> ashsam73@ wrote:> >> > Dear Ramesh,> >> > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me> > attempt it.> >> > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial> > happiness. Here if u go

deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7 bindus.> > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst andit> > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.> >> > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so its> > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not LoDor> > LoE for 12th as B.> >> > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju isnot> > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is important as> > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with spermcount> > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the idea.> > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in deeperso> > what to do....> >> > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same

time> > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.> >> > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moon is> > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.> >> > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd> > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its> > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose> Jupiter.> >> > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control over6th> > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4 bindus.> >> > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the 1st> > house results, i.e. quality.> >> > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and weget> > say power of Ju = 7 means its

making such relation and other planets> > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets / lagna> > are supporting Jupiter.> >> > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and theyare> >> > 1) Lagna> > 2) Sun> > 3) Moon> > 4) Mars> > 5) Mercury> > 6) Jupiter,> > 7) Venus> >> > So these all are supporting except Saturn.> >> > Hope that helps,> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> >> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,"aarceemastro2002"> > aarceemastro2002@

wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,> > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and techniques> > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, it can> > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.> > > But my one query remained pending.> > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10> relationship> > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other handMa> > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of> > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV points?> > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be therole> > > of Ju in this context?> > > I think this time you will reply.> > > Thanks and regards.> > >

Ramesh Mishra> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinion and> it> > > > need not be right.> > > >> > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve when its> > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have atleast3> > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.> > > >> > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can have such> > > strong> > > > relationships.>

> > >> > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not have> that> > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able toclarify> > > > with dates and times of such.> > > >> > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt> > > maritial> > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7th> sight> > > of> > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoilt and> he> > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple relationships> so> > > no> > > > doubt about that.> > > >> > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in7th> > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might

marry. That> will> > > > be due to his family status or intervention.> > > >> > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happiness in> > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result and mosltyin> > > 2nd> > > > or 3rd sector.> > > >> > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn'tgiven> so> > > > far, why will it give now going in future?> > > >> > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.> > > >> > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and thatwill> > > also> > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and lets> watch,> > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.> >

> >> > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us> > > posted> > > > on the outcome.> > > >> > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give marriage> > > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has> said...> > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2nd or> 3rd> > > > sector... is what i feel...> > > >> > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it does not> > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....> > > >> > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > >> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,> "aarceemastro2002"> > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,> > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov1973.> > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-> > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.> > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination> > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9combination.> > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > >

> 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.> > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.> > > > >> > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of age i.e.> > > after> > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?> > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.> > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.> > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in> > > marriage.Moon> > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two> > > malefics> > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.> > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo andRa.This> > > may> > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.> > > >

> 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in> > > navamsa.> > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.> > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord)aspects> > > his> > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.> > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity> towards> > > one> > > > > another.> > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus> > > reducing> > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on> 12th> > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housedfor> > > > > marriage purpose.> > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10> relationship.

Ju> > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these> > > > > relationship.> > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in> > > detail ?> > > > > I think this relationship brings very important for thischart.> > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only last> two> > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.> > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.Itmeans> > > > > native should have marriage.> > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.> > > Sometimes he> > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is> hypocritic> > > > > also.> > > > > Ash !

You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according tome> > > it> > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being6th> > > lord.> > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagna and> > > its> > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.> > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and> > > conjunction> > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.> > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried ?> > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but itdid> > > not> > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.> > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did nothappen.> > > >

> He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD to Me> LoE.> > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it aspects> > > house> > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should haveshown> > > its> > > > > result.> > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?> > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will

be curious to know what> happens> > > in> > > > > end> > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.> > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for> all.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > >> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "harjeet> > > bakshi"> > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/ Ashji,> > > > > > > i

think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th houseand> 2> > > in> > > > > 12th> > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be> > > obstacle> > > > > or> > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereosare> > > > > placed.> > > > > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and 12th> > > house> > > > > which> > > > > > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.> > > > > > > despite these other factors already discussed might notgive> > > > > native a> > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju> > > antra).> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my> > > friend> > > > > who is> > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might havemore> > > than> > > > > 2 or> > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case ofnon-marital> > > > > status.> > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which ishis> > > 6th> > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra of> > > jupiter> > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due tosome> > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl thethings> > > didnt> > > > > work> > >

> > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and might> > > deliver> > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again ifrequired> :> > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.> > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu aspected> by> > > > > saturn.> > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In> > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com>

<astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,"aarceemastro2002"> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,> > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period> from> > > 10> > > > > Aug> > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?> > > > > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve iskarak> > > for> > > > > 4th> > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is> 12th> > > > > lord of B> > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.> > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are

strong with 5 bindus.> > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highestpower> > > with> > > > > 40> > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.> > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this houseis> > > > > afflicted> > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma> > > (2nd> > > > > and 7th> > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some> > > > > affliction of> > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.> > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?> > > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and

regards.> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "Sanjiva> > > > > Sharma"> > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > You staed that:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by> Sa> > > and> > > > >

> > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > regular> > > > > > > > checkups"> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following points.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju> > > should> > > > > be in> > > > > > > > Libra?> > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted> by> > > Sat> > > > > & > > > > > > > > Mars.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the "cancer " to come>

out> > > as> > > > > > > > disease?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of thebody?> > > Is it> > > > > > > > related to> > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > trologyandtimingeve nts > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com>> > > > > > > >

>> > > <trologyandtimingeve nts > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libraand> > > ve in> > > > > > > > krittika> > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too theyare> > > in> > > > > 1:7 so> > > > > > > > > > having enmity.> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > This person might be "allergic" to authority.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspectedby> > > Sa> > > > > and> > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > regular> > > > > > > > checkups.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own> > > > > business or> > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital

status.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even ifhe> > > > > marries. So> > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very> > > delayed in> > > > > life> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for> > > companionship.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't> > > have> > > > > > > > blessings> > > > > > > > > > either.> > > > > > > > > >> > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , bala> > > sosale> > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa> > > but> > > > > has 3> > > > > > > > zeros?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He isstill> > > not> > > > > > > > married.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Male> > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976> > > > > > > > >

> > 10.20 AM.> > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan> > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00> > > > > > > > > > > 15N32> > > > > > > > > > > 32E32> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma> > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn13> > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > > Bala> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >

> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail> beta.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been> removed]> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

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HI Blaine,Sorry, perhaps the right expression should be 'offset'? not time zone. I agree Time Zone should be -2 and -3 hours for astrological purposes.Sunil --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Blaine Watson <blainepw wrote:

Blaine Watson <blainepwRe: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 8:26 AM

 

 

dear sunil

 

as per all atlases i have access to it should be -2 time zone with dst so eedt and add -3 to get ut

 

 

 

On 6-Aug-08, at 8:15 AM, Sunil Sharma wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Ash,Time Zone for Khartoum, Sudan is UTC +2 hours. For 1976, DST started on Sunday the 25th April 1976 at 00:00:00 hours, on which day the offset changed from UTC +2 hours to UTC +3 hours. It ended on Thursday the 14 October 1976 at 00:00:00 hours when the clock reverted to UTC +2 hours from UTC +3hours. You can check the link below:http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/clockchange. html?n=118 & year=1976Hope I have been of help.RegardsSunil

 

--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas wrote:

Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kasRE: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zerosastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comWednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:34 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear Swati,

 

You still don¢t get it. I don¢t have any contention, I just want to get correct facts.

 

1) Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memory serves me right.

2) You are getting 5 Cancer

3) From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrs east and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX

4) JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time

 

So what is the real fact, that all I want to know.

 

I have tired to show u how If I use astro.com/atlas is giving results I am getting Gemini lagna.

 

Can someone please check this and let us know what the real setting is for Khartum, Sudan on 24th May 1976?

 

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

 

 

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of designhologramTuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com[astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on

delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros

 

 

 

 

Dear Ashji,i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get toproper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were notcoming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions about it.So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail in theforum.Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KASwithout any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software and relymore on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and seesome success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , since ididnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just startedstudying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, butstill i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, will

putDST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted toinform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believingthat 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.Thanks Swatiastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's Corner"<kas wrote:>> Dear Swati,>> Please do not say wrong things .>> I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in thiscase.>> If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES asgiven> in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.>> So what is the

fact?>> Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan for24th> May 1976.>>> If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and withDaylight> savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I amgetting 3> hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.>> When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.>> So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with properdata> first and the charts have been cast accurately.>>> Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca>> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of> designhologram> Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriagefor a> chart with 3 zeros>> Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List>> There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay of> marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus", and marriage timing, dated> 14 feb 2007> the native has gotten married on

19th April 2008, so one can put totest> their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.> I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participatedin> the discussion .>> this is a link to one of the messages.> http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/ message/14224>> the details for the chart are , although i would like to point thatonce> this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken and> lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs tomake> those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,> which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on this> with ashji, but we failed to

come to conclusion. So you all can be of> help.> according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini ,> while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancerinstead> of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr softwares> as well,> parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std time> zone.> while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time> zone as well.>> Details>> date: 24th may 1976 ,> place : khartoum sundan> time: 10:20>> timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for the> year 1976 and also put DSt )>> here are the sites for reference for correcting:> http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone. html?n=118> <http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone. html?n=118 & syear=1970>> & syear=1970> http://www.astro. com/cgi/ade. cgi>> Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart forstudy> from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and oter> characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.>> Thanks once again> Swati>> astrologyandtiminge vents@

s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> ashsam73@ wrote:> >> > Dear Ramesh,> >> > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me> > attempt it.> >> > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial> > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7 bindus.> > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst andit> > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.> >> > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so its> > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not LoDor> > LoE for 12th as B.> >> > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju

isnot> > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is important as> > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with spermcount> > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the idea.> > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in deeperso> > what to do....> >> > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same time> > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.> >> > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moon is> > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.> >> > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd> > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its> > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose>

Jupiter.> >> > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control over6th> > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4 bindus.> >> > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the 1st> > house results, i.e. quality.> >> > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and weget> > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other planets> > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets / lagna> > are supporting Jupiter.> >> > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and theyare> >> > 1) Lagna> > 2) Sun> > 3) Moon> > 4) Mars> > 5) Mercury> > 6) Jupiter,> > 7) Venus> >> > So these all are supporting except

Saturn.> >> > Hope that helps,> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> >> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,"aarceemastro2002"> > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,> > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and techniques> > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, it can> > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.> > > But my

one query remained pending.> > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10> relationship> > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other handMa> > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of> > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV points?> > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be therole> > > of Ju in this context?> > > I think this time you will reply.> > > Thanks and regards.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40.

com> , "ashsam73"> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinion and> it> > > > need not be right.> > > >> > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve when its> > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have atleast3> > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.> > > >> > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can have such> > > strong> > > > relationships.> > > >> > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not have> that> > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able toclarify> > > > with

dates and times of such.> > > >> > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt> > > maritial> > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7th> sight> > > of> > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoilt and> he> > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple relationships> so> > > no> > > > doubt about that.> > > >> > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in7th> > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry. That> will> > > > be due to his family status or intervention.> > > >> > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happiness in> > > > maritial

life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result and mosltyin> > > 2nd> > > > or 3rd sector.> > > >> > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn'tgiven> so> > > > far, why will it give now going in future?> > > >> > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.> > > >> > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and thatwill> > > also> > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and lets> watch,> > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.> > > >> > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us> > > posted> > > > on the outcome.> > > >> > > > Now, one thing to observe,

is that Ju is trying to give marriage> > > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has> said...> > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2nd or> 3rd> > > > sector... is what i feel...> > > >> > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it does not> > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....> > > >> > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > >> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,> "aarceemastro2002"> > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,> > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov1973.> > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-> > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.> > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination> > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9combination.> > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.> > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40

deg 21 <43.> > > > >> > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of age i.e.> > > after> > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?> > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.> > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.> > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in> > > marriage.Moon> > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two> > > malefics> > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.> > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo andRa.This> > > may> > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.> > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in> > > navamsa.> > > >

> 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.> > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord)aspects> > > his> > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.> > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity> towards> > > one> > > > > another.> > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus> > > reducing> > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on> 12th> > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housedfor> > > > > marriage purpose.> > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10> relationship. Ju> > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these> > > > >

relationship.> > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in> > > detail ?> > > > > I think this relationship brings very important for thischart.> > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only last> two> > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.> > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.Itmeans> > > > > native should have marriage.> > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.> > > Sometimes he> > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is> hypocritic> > > > > also.> > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according tome> > > it> > > > > seems that

he may not marry even in Ju because of its being6th> > > lord.> > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagna and> > > its> > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.> > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and> > > conjunction> > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.> > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried ?> > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but itdid> > > not> > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.> > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did nothappen.> > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD to Me> LoE.> > > > > Sometimes Ma

might not have given the event because it aspects> > > house> > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should haveshown> > > its> > > > > result.> > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?> > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to

know what> happens> > > in> > > > > end> > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.> > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for> all.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > >> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "harjeet> > > bakshi"> > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@ >

wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/ Ashji,> > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th houseand> 2> > > in> > > > > 12th> > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be> > > obstacle> > > > > or> > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereosare> > > > > placed.> > > > > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and 12th> > > house> > > > > which> > > > > > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.> > > > > > > despite these other factors already discussed might notgive> > > > > native a> >

> > > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju> > > antra).> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my> > > friend> > > > > who is> > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might havemore> > > than> > > > > 2 or> > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case ofnon-marital> > > > > status.> > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which ishis> > > 6th> > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra of> > > jupiter> > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due tosome> > > >

> > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl thethings> > > didnt> > > > > work> > > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and might> > > deliver> > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again ifrequired> :> > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.> > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu aspected> by> > > > > saturn.> > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In> > > >

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,"aarceemastro2002"> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,> > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period> from> > > 10> > > > > Aug> > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?> > > > > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve iskarak> > > for> > > > > 4th> > > > > > > > house and strong in

WS for 4th house matter. Me who is> 12th> > > > > lord of B> > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.> > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.> > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highestpower> > > with> > > > > 40> > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.> > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this houseis> > > > > afflicted> > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma> > > (2nd> > > > > and 7th> > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some> > > > > affliction

of> > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.> > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?> > > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "Sanjiva> > > > > Sharma"> > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > You staed that:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by> Sa> > > and> > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > regular> > > > > > > > checkups"> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following points.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju> > > should> > > > > be in> > > > > > > > Libra?> > >

> > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted> by> > > Sat> > > > > & > > > > > > > > Mars.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the "cancer " to come> out> > > as> > > > > > > > disease?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of thebody?> > > Is it> > > > > > > > related to> > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Sanjiva

Sharma> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > trologyandtimingeve nts > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com>> > > > > > > > >> > > <trologyandtimingeve nts > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,> >

> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libraand> > > ve in> > > > > > > > krittika> > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too theyare> > > in> > > > > 1:7 so> > > > > > > > > > having enmity.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This person might be "allergic" to authority.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspectedby> > > Sa> > > > > and> > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to

cancer. He must go for> > > regular> > > > > > > > checkups.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own> > > > > business or> > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even ifhe> > > > > marries. So> > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very> > > delayed in> > > > > life> > > > >

> > > and> > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for> > > companionship.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't> > > have> > > > > > > > blessings> > > > > > > > > > either.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , bala> > > sosale> > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa> > > but> > > > > has

3> > > > > > > > zeros?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He isstill> > > not> > > > > > > > married.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Male> > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976> > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.> > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan> > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00> > > > > > > > > > > 15N32> > > > > > > > > > >

32E32> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma> > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn13> > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > > Bala> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail> beta.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been> removed]> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

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