Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=118 & year=1976

On Behalf Of Sunil Sharma

Wednesday August 6, 2008

11:42 AM

To:

Re:

Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3

zeros

HI Blaine,

Sorry, perhaps the right expression should be 'offset'? not time zone. I

agree Time Zone should be -2 and -3 hours for astrological purposes.

Sunil

--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Blaine Watson <blainepw

wrote:

Blaine Watson <blainepw

Re: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for

a chart with 3 zeros

Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 8:26 AM

dear sunil

as per all

atlases i have access to it should be -2 time zone with dst so eedt and add

-3 to get ut

On

6-Aug-08, at 8:15 AM, Sunil Sharma wrote:

Hi Ash,

Time Zone for Khartoum, Sudan is UTC +2 hours. For 1976, DST started on

Sunday the 25th April 1976 at 00:00:00 hours, on which day the

offset changed from UTC +2 hours to UTC +3 hours. It ended on Thursday the

14 October 1976 at 00:00:00 hours when the clock reverted to UTC +2 hours

from UTC +3hours. You can check the link below:

http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/clockchange.

html?n=118 & year=1976

Hope I have been of help.

Regards

Sunil

--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas wrote:

Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas

RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriage

for a chart with 3 zeros

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:34 AM

Dear Swati,

You still don¢t get it. I

don¢t have any contention, I just want to get correct facts.

1) Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memory

serves me right.

2) You are getting 5 Cancer

3) From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrs

east and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX

4) JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time

So what is the real fact, that

all I want to know.

I have tired to show u how If

I use astro.com/atlas is giving results I am getting Gemini lagna.

Can someone please check this

and let us know what the real setting is for Khartum,

Sudan on 24th May

1976?

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.

ca

astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com [astrologyan

dtimingevents] On Behalf Of designhologram

Tuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PM

astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

[astrologyandtiming events] Re:

Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros

Dear

Ashji,

i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get to

proper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were not

coming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions about it.

So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail in the

forum.

Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KAS

without any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software and rely

more on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and see

some success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , since i

didnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just started

studying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, but

still i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.

So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, will put

DST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted to

inform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,

and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.

And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believing

that 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.

Thanks Swati

astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com, " Ash's Corner "

<kas wrote:

>

> Dear Swati,

>

> Please do not say wrong things .

>

> I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in this

case.

>

> If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES as

given

> in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.

>

> So what is the fact?

>

> Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan for

24th

> May 1976.

>

> If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and with

Daylight

> savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I am

getting 3

> hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.

>

> When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.

>

> So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with proper

data

> first and the charts have been cast accurately.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca

>

> astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf

Of

> designhologram

> Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM

> astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriage

for a

> chart with 3 zeros

>

> Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List

>

> There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay of

> marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus " , and marriage timing,

dated

> 14 feb 2007

> the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put to

test

> their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.

> I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participated

in

> the discussion .

>

> this is a link to one of the messages.

> http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/

message/14224

>

> the details for the chart are , although i would like to point that

once

> this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken and

> lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs to

make

> those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,

> which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on this

> with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can be of

> help.

> according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini ,

> while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancer

instead

> of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr softwares

> as well,

> parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std time

> zone.

> while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time

> zone as well.

>

> Details

>

> date: 24th may 1976 ,

> place : khartoum sundan

> time: 10:20

>

> timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for the

> year 1976 and also put DSt )

>

> here are the sites for reference for correcting:

> http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.

html?n=118

> <http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.

html?n=118 & syear=1970>

> & syear=1970

> http://www.astro.

com/cgi/ade. cgi

>

> Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart for

study

> from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and oter

> characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.

>

> Thanks once again

> Swati

>

> astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , " ashsam73 "

> ashsam73@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramesh,

> >

> > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me

> > attempt it.

> >

> > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial

> > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7

bindus.

> > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst

and

it

> > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.

> >

> > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so

its

> > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not

LoD

or

> > LoE for 12th as B.

> >

> > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju is

not

> > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is important

as

> > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with sperm

count

> > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the

idea.

> > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in

deeper

so

> > what to do....

> >

> > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same

time

> > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.

> >

> > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moon

is

> > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.

> >

> > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd

> > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its

> > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose

> Jupiter.

> >

> > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control

over

6th

> > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4

bindus.

> >

> > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the

1st

> > house results, i.e. quality.

> >

> > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and we

get

> > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other

planets

> > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets /

lagna

> > are supporting Jupiter.

> >

> > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and they

are

> >

> > 1) Lagna

> > 2) Sun

> > 3) Moon

> > 4) Mars

> > 5) Mercury

> > 6) Jupiter,

> > 7) Venus

> >

> > So these all are supporting except Saturn.

> >

> > Hope that helps,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> ,

" aarceemastro2002 "

> > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,

> > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and

techniques

> > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt,

it can

> > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very

correct.

> > > But my one query remained pending.

> > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10

> relationship

> > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other

hand

Ma

> > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement

of

> > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV

points

?

> > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be

the

role

> > > of Ju in this context?

> > > I think this time you will reply.

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my

opinion and

> it

> > > > need not be right.

> > > >

> > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve

when its

> > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have

atleast

3

> > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can

clarify.

> > > >

> > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can

have such

> > > strong

> > > > relationships.

> > > >

> > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do

not have

> that

> > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able

to

clarify

> > > > with dates and times of such.

> > > >

> > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will

spoilt

> > > maritial

> > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is

having 7th

> sight

> > > of

> > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its

spoilt and

> he

> > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple

relationships

> so

> > > no

> > > > doubt about that.

> > > >

> > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words

mars is in

7th

> > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might

marry. That

> will

> > > > be due to his family status or intervention.

> > > >

> > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less

happiness in

> > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result

and moslty

in

> > > 2nd

> > > > or 3rd sector.

> > > >

> > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it

hasn't

given

> so

> > > > far, why will it give now going in future?

> > > >

> > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.

> > > >

> > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and

that

will

> > > also

> > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over

and lets

> watch,

> > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.

> > > >

> > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will

keep us

> > > posted

> > > > on the outcome.

> > > >

> > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give

marriage

> > > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet

has

> said...

> > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to

end 2nd or

> 3rd

> > > > sector... is what i feel...

> > > >

> > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it

does not

> > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> ,

> " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,

> > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given

as 27 Nov

1973.

> > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-

> > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.

> > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination

> > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in

5:9

combination.

> > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10

combination.

> > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10

combination.

> > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and

navamsa.

> > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.

> > > > >

> > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years

of age i.e.

> > > after

> > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?

> > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.

> > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.

> > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not

interested in

> > > marriage.Moon

> > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house

accommodates two

> > > malefics

> > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.

> > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve,

Mo and

Ra.This

> > > may

> > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.

> > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by

Ra only in

> > > navamsa.

> > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.

> > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th

lord)

aspects

> > > his

> > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.

> > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means

enmity

> towards

> > > one

> > > > > another.

> > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong

points.Thus

> > > reducing

> > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic

influence on

> 12th

> > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very

important housed

for

> > > > > marriage purpose.

> > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10

> relationship. Ju

> > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to

understand these

> > > > > relationship.

> > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship

understand to me in

> > > detail ?

> > > > > I think this relationship brings very important

for this

chart.

> > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I

found only last

> two

> > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.

> > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12

points in WS.It

means

> > > > > native should have marriage.

> > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard

worker.

> > > Sometimes he

> > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work.

He is

> hypocritic

> > > > > also.

> > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But

according to

me

> > > it

> > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of

its being

6th

> > > lord.

> > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between

lagna and

> > > its

> > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point

scale.

> > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association

and

> > > conjunction

> > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.

> > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still

unmarried ?

> > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me

LoE but it

did

> > > not

> > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.

> > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It

did not

happen.

> > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma

is SD to Me

> LoE.

> > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event

because it aspects

> > > house

> > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he

should have

shown

> > > its

> > > > > result.

> > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members

?

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to

know what

> happens

> > > in

> > > > > end

> > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.

> > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning

experience for

> all.

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , " harjeet

> > > bakshi "

> > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/ Ashji,

> > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one

zero in 5th house

and

> 2

> > > in

> > > > > 12th

> > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that

there would be

> > > obstacle

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the

house where zereos

are

> > > > > placed.

> > > > > > > so the native might lack something

related to 5th and 12th

> > > house

> > > > > which

> > > > > > > might be associated with relationship

and pleasures.

> > > > > > > despite these other factors already

discussed might not

give

> > > > > native a

> > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he

marries(might be in Ju

> > > antra).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had

given a chart of my

> > > friend

> > > > > who is

> > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that

he might have

more

> > > than

> > > > > 2 or

> > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a

case of

non-marital

> > > > > status.

> > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju

antra (which is

his

> > > 6th

> > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage

in current antra of

> > > jupiter

> > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but

unfortunately due to

some

> > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of

the girl the

things

> > > didnt

> > > > > work

> > > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of

ju antra and might

> > > deliver

> > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his

data again if

required

> :

> > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with

moon and rahu aspected

> by

> > > > > saturn.

> > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> ,

" aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve

main during the period

> from

> > > 10

> > > > > Aug

> > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > > > > > > > The native is currently passing

through Ve MD.Ve is

karak

> > > for

> > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house

matter. Me who is

> 12th

> > > > > lord of B

> > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the

chart is in house A.

> > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong

with 5 bindus.

> > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th

as B with highest

power

> > > with

> > > > > 40

> > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points

for Ju in WS.

> > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness

also but this house

is

> > > > > afflicted

> > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving

malefic sight of Ma

> > > (2nd

> > > > > and 7th

> > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju.

Hence there is some

> > > > > affliction of

> > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.

> > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on

this house ?

> > > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks

and regards.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , " Sanjiva

> > > > > Sharma "

> > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You staed that:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > " In this chart also Ju is

in Libra and its aspected by

> Sa

> > > and

> > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to

cancer. He must go for

> > > regular

> > > > > > > > checkups "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following

points.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is

it necessary that Ju

> > > should

> > > > > be in

> > > > > > > > Libra?

> > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed

that Ju should be afflicted

> by

> > > Sat

> > > > > &

> > > > > > > > Mars.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing

of the " cancer " to come

> out

> > > as

> > > > > > > > disease?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer

on which part of the

body?

> > > Is it

> > > > > > > > related to

> > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > trologyandtimingeve

nts

> <trologyandti

mingevents% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > <trologyandtimingeve

nts

> <trologyandti

mingevents% 40. com> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there

are 3 zeros, ju in Libra

and

> > > ve in

> > > > > > > > krittika

> > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this

Venus and that too they

are

> > > in

> > > > > 1:7 so

> > > > > > > > > > having enmity.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This person might be

" allergic " to authority.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is

in Libra and its aspected

by

> > > Sa

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone

to cancer. He must go for

> > > regular

> > > > > > > > checkups.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent

and might want to do his own

> > > > > business or

> > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart

of non marital status.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > His relationships might

not last for long, even if

he

> > > > > marries. So

> > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of

marriage it might be very

> > > delayed in

> > > > > life

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40

years and that too for

> > > companionship.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > However I feel this

person might not marry, he don't

> > > have

> > > > > > > > blessings

> > > > > > > > > > either.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , bala

> > > sosale

> > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where

there is no delay by Ju or Sa

> > > but

> > > > > has 3

> > > > > > > > zeros?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate

delay in this chart? He is

still

> > > not

> > > > > > > > married.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Here are the

details.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > > > > > > > 15N32

> > > > > > > > > > > 32E32

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta

39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju

21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn

13

> > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > Bala

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ------------

--------- --------- ---

> > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving

about the all-new Mail

> beta.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions

of this message have been

> removed]

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this

message have been removed]

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 6, 2008

Dear

Sunil ji and Blaine ji,

This

is what is given in the

Sunday, April 25, 1976 at 1:00:00 AM1 hour+3 hoursCAST

Now,

when I Make time zone = BGT -03:00 and set the DST = YES, I am getting lagna at

22 Ge 16.

I

do the same for Toronto, Canada for Today

I

get

So

for

Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 3:00:00 AM 1 hour -4 hours EDT

So

for 6th August 6, 2008, 12:20,

43N40, 79W25, I enter

EDT

= +04:00 and DST = YES

I

get 0 Li 54 as Lagna.

Now

I enter the same in say other software, JHL, and I get exactly the same lagna.

What

am I overlooking, can someone guide?

Cheers !!!

<http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=118 & year=1976>

On Behalf Of Sunil Sharma

Wednesday August 6, 2008

11:42 AM

To:

Re:

Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3

zeros

HI Blaine,

Sorry, perhaps the right expression should be 'offset'? not time zone. I

agree Time Zone should be -2 and -3 hours for astrological purposes.

Sunil

--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Blaine Watson <blainepw

wrote:

Blaine Watson <blainepw

Re: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for

a chart with 3 zeros

Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 8:26 AM

dear sunil

as per all

atlases i have access to it should be -2 time zone with dst so eedt and add

-3 to get ut

On

6-Aug-08, at 8:15 AM, Sunil Sharma wrote:

Hi Ash,

Time Zone for Khartoum, Sudan is UTC +2 hours. For 1976, DST started on

Sunday the 25th April 1976 at 00:00:00 hours, on which day the

offset changed from UTC +2 hours to UTC +3 hours. It ended on Thursday the

14 October 1976 at 00:00:00 hours when the clock reverted to UTC +2 hours

from UTC +3hours. You can check the link below:

http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/clockchange.

html?n=118 & year=1976

Hope I have been of help.

Regards

Sunil

--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas wrote:

Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas

RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriage

for a chart with 3 zeros

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:34 AM

Dear Swati,

You still don¢t get it. I

don¢t have any contention, I just want to get correct facts.

1) Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memory

serves me right.

2) You are getting 5 Cancer

3) From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrs

east and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX

4) JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time

So what is the real fact, that

all I want to know.

I have tired to show u how If

I use astro.com/atlas is giving results I am getting Gemini lagna.

Can someone please check this

and let us know what the real setting is for Khartum,

Sudan on 24th May

1976?

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.

ca

astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com [astrologyan

dtimingevents] On Behalf Of designhologram

Tuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PM

astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

[astrologyandtiming events] Re:

Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros

Dear

Ashji,

i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get to

proper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were not

coming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions about it.

So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail in the

forum.

Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KAS

without any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software and rely

more on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and see

some success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , since i

didnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just started

studying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, but

still i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.

So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, will put

DST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted to

inform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,

and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.

And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believing

that 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.

Thanks Swati

astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com, " Ash's Corner "

<kas wrote:

>

> Dear Swati,

>

> Please do not say wrong things .

>

> I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in this

case.

>

> If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES as

given

> in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.

>

> So what is the fact?

>

> Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan for

24th

> May 1976.

>

> If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and with

Daylight

> savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I am

getting 3

> hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.

>

> When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.

>

> So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with proper

data

> first and the charts have been cast accurately.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca

>

> astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf

Of

> designhologram

> Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM

> astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriage

for a

> chart with 3 zeros

>

> Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List

>

> There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay of

> marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus " , and marriage timing,

dated

> 14 feb 2007

> the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put to

test

> their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.

> I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participated

in

> the discussion .

>

> this is a link to one of the messages.

> http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/

message/14224

>

> the details for the chart are , although i would like to point that

once

> this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken and

> lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs to

make

> those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,

> which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on this

> with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can be of

> help.

> according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini ,

> while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancer

instead

> of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr softwares

> as well,

> parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std time

> zone.

> while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time

> zone as well.

>

> Details

>

> date: 24th may 1976 ,

> place : khartoum sundan

> time: 10:20

>

> timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for the

> year 1976 and also put DSt )

>

> here are the sites for reference for correcting:

> http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.

html?n=118

> <http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.

html?n=118 & syear=1970>

> & syear=1970

> http://www.astro.

com/cgi/ade. cgi

>

> Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart for

study

> from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and oter

> characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.

>

> Thanks once again

> Swati

>

> astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , " ashsam73 "

> ashsam73@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramesh,

> >

> > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me

> > attempt it.

> >

> > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial

> > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7

bindus.

> > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst

and

it

> > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.

> >

> > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so

its

> > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not

LoD

or

> > LoE for 12th as B.

> >

> > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju is

not

> > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is important

as

> > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with sperm

count

> > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the

idea.

> > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in

deeper

so

> > what to do....

> >

> > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same

time

> > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.

> >

> > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moon

is

> > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.

> >

> > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd

> > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its

> > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose

> Jupiter.

> >

> > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control

over

6th

> > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4

bindus.

> >

> > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the

1st

> > house results, i.e. quality.

> >

> > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and we

get

> > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other

planets

> > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets /

lagna

> > are supporting Jupiter.

> >

> > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and they

are

> >

> > 1) Lagna

> > 2) Sun

> > 3) Moon

> > 4) Mars

> > 5) Mercury

> > 6) Jupiter,

> > 7) Venus

> >

> > So these all are supporting except Saturn.

> >

> > Hope that helps,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> ,

" aarceemastro2002 "

> > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,

> > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and

techniques

> > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt,

it can

> > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very

correct.

> > > But my one query remained pending.

> > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10

> relationship

> > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other

hand

Ma

> > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement

of

> > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV

points

?

> > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be

the

role

> > > of Ju in this context?

> > > I think this time you will reply.

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my

opinion and

> it

> > > > need not be right.

> > > >

> > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve

when its

> > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have

atleast

3

> > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can

clarify.

> > > >

> > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can

have such

> > > strong

> > > > relationships.

> > > >

> > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do

not have

> that

> > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able

to

clarify

> > > > with dates and times of such.

> > > >

> > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will

spoilt

> > > maritial

> > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is

having 7th

> sight

> > > of

> > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its

spoilt and

> he

> > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple

relationships

> so

> > > no

> > > > doubt about that.

> > > >

> > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words

mars is in

7th

> > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might

marry. That

> will

> > > > be due to his family status or intervention.

> > > >

> > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less

happiness in

> > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result

and moslty

in

> > > 2nd

> > > > or 3rd sector.

> > > >

> > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it

hasn't

given

> so

> > > > far, why will it give now going in future?

> > > >

> > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.

> > > >

> > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and

that

will

> > > also

> > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over

and lets

> watch,

> > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.

> > > >

> > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will

keep us

> > > posted

> > > > on the outcome.

> > > >

> > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give

marriage

> > > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet

has

> said...

> > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to

end 2nd or

> 3rd

> > > > sector... is what i feel...

> > > >

> > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it

does not

> > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> ,

> " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,

> > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given

as 27 Nov

1973.

> > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-

> > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.

> > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination

> > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in

5:9

combination.

> > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10

combination.

> > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10

combination.

> > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and

navamsa.

> > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.

> > > > >

> > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years

of age i.e.

> > > after

> > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?

> > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.

> > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.

> > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not

interested in

> > > marriage.Moon

> > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house

accommodates two

> > > malefics

> > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.

> > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve,

Mo and

Ra.This

> > > may

> > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.

> > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by

Ra only in

> > > navamsa.

> > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.

> > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th

lord)

aspects

> > > his

> > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.

> > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means

enmity

> towards

> > > one

> > > > > another.

> > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong

points.Thus

> > > reducing

> > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic

influence on

> 12th

> > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very

important housed

for

> > > > > marriage purpose.

> > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10

> relationship. Ju

> > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to

understand these

> > > > > relationship.

> > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship

understand to me in

> > > detail ?

> > > > > I think this relationship brings very important

for this

chart.

> > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I

found only last

> two

> > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.

> > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12

points in WS.It

means

> > > > > native should have marriage.

> > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard

worker.

> > > Sometimes he

> > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work.

He is

> hypocritic

> > > > > also.

> > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But

according to

me

> > > it

> > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of

its being

6th

> > > lord.

> > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between

lagna and

> > > its

> > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point

scale.

> > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association

and

> > > conjunction

> > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.

> > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still

unmarried ?

> > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me

LoE but it

did

> > > not

> > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.

> > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It

did not

happen.

> > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma

is SD to Me

> LoE.

> > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event

because it aspects

> > > house

> > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he

should have

shown

> > > its

> > > > > result.

> > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members

?

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to

know what

> happens

> > > in

> > > > > end

> > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.

> > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning

experience for

> all.

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , " harjeet

> > > bakshi "

> > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/ Ashji,

> > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one

zero in 5th house

and

> 2

> > > in

> > > > > 12th

> > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that

there would be

> > > obstacle

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the

house where zereos

are

> > > > > placed.

> > > > > > > so the native might lack something

related to 5th and 12th

> > > house

> > > > > which

> > > > > > > might be associated with relationship

and pleasures.

> > > > > > > despite these other factors already

discussed might not

give

> > > > > native a

> > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he

marries(might be in Ju

> > > antra).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had

given a chart of my

> > > friend

> > > > > who is

> > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that

he might have

more

> > > than

> > > > > 2 or

> > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a

case of

non-marital

> > > > > status.

> > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju

antra (which is

his

> > > 6th

> > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage

in current antra of

> > > jupiter

> > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but

unfortunately due to

some

> > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of

the girl the

things

> > > didnt

> > > > > work

> > > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of

ju antra and might

> > > deliver

> > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his

data again if

required

> :

> > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with

moon and rahu aspected

> by

> > > > > saturn.

> > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> ,

" aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve

main during the period

> from

> > > 10

> > > > > Aug

> > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > > > > > > > The native is currently passing

through Ve MD.Ve is

karak

> > > for

> > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house

matter. Me who is

> 12th

> > > > > lord of B

> > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the

chart is in house A.

> > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong

with 5 bindus.

> > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th

as B with highest

power

> > > with

> > > > > 40

> > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points

for Ju in WS.

> > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness

also but this house

is

> > > > > afflicted

> > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving

malefic sight of Ma

> > > (2nd

> > > > > and 7th

> > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju.

Hence there is some

> > > > > affliction of

> > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.

> > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on

this house ?

> > > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks

and regards.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , " Sanjiva

> > > > > Sharma "

> > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You staed that:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > " In this chart also Ju is

in Libra and its aspected by

> Sa

> > > and

> > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to

cancer. He must go for

> > > regular

> > > > > > > > checkups "

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following

points.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is

it necessary that Ju

> > > should

> > > > > be in

> > > > > > > > Libra?

> > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed

that Ju should be afflicted

> by

> > > Sat

> > > > > &

> > > > > > > > Mars.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing

of the " cancer " to come

> out

> > > as

> > > > > > > > disease?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer

on which part of the

body?

> > > Is it

> > > > > > > > related to

> > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > trologyandtimingeve

nts

> <trologyandti

mingevents% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > <trologyandtimingeve

nts

> <trologyandti

mingevents% 40. com> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there

are 3 zeros, ju in Libra

and

> > > ve in

> > > > > > > > krittika

> > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this

Venus and that too they

are

> > > in

> > > > > 1:7 so

> > > > > > > > > > having enmity.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This person might be

" allergic " to authority.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is

in Libra and its aspected

by

> > > Sa

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone

to cancer. He must go for

> > > regular

> > > > > > > > checkups.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent

and might want to do his own

> > > > > business or

> > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart

of non marital status.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > His relationships might

not last for long, even if

he

> > > > > marries. So

> > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of

marriage it might be very

> > > delayed in

> > > > > life

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40

years and that too for

> > > companionship.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > However I feel this

person might not marry, he don't

> > > have

> > > > > > > > blessings

> > > > > > > > > > either.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , bala

> > > sosale

> > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where

there is no delay by Ju or Sa

> > > but

> > > > > has 3

> > > > > > > > zeros?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate

delay in this chart? He is

still

> > > not

> > > > > > > > married.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Here are the

details.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > > > > > > > 15N32

> > > > > > > > > > > 32E32

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta

39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju

21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn

13

> > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > Bala

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ------------

--------- --------- ---

> > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving

about the all-new Mail

> beta.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions

of this message have been

> removed]

> > > > > > > > > > >

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August 6, 2008

i may be using a different ayanamsha than yours. sorry.On 6-Aug-08, at 9:31 AM, Ash's Corner wrote:Dear Sunil ji and Blaine ji, This is what is given in the http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=118 & year=1976 Sunday, April 25, 1976 at 1:00:00 AM1 hour+3 hoursCAST Now, when I Make time zone = BGT -03:00 and set the DST = YES, I am getting lagna at 22 Ge 16. I do the same for Toronto, Canada for Today I get So for Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 3:00:00 AM 1 hour -4 hours EDT So for 6th August 6, 2008, 12:20, 43N40, 79W25, I enter EDT = +04:00 and DST = YES I get 0 Li 54 as Lagna. Now I enter the same in say other software, JHL, and I get exactly the same lagna. What am I overlooking, can someone guide?Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Sunil SharmaSent: Wednesday August 6, 2008 11:42 AMTo: Subject: Re: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros HI Blaine,Sorry, perhaps the right expression should be 'offset'? not time zone. I agree Time Zone should be -2 and -3 hours for astrological purposes.Sunil --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Blaine Watson <blainepw > wrote:Blaine Watson <blainepw >Re: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 8:26 AMdear sunil as per all atlases i have access to it should be -2 time zone with dst so eedt and add -3 to get ut On 6-Aug-08, at 8:15 AM, Sunil Sharma wrote: Hi Ash,Time Zone for Khartoum, Sudan is UTC +2 hours. For 1976, DST started on Sunday the 25th April 1976 at 00:00:00 hours, on which day the offset changed from UTC +2 hours to UTC +3 hours. It ended on Thursday the 14 October 1976 at 00:00:00 hours when the clock reverted to UTC +2 hours from UTC +3hours. You can check the link below:http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/clockchange. html?n=118 & year=1976Hope I have been of help.RegardsSunil --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas wrote:Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kasRE: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zerosastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comWednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:34 AMDear Swati, You still don’t get it. I don’t have any contention, I just want to get correct facts. 1) Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memory serves me right.2) You are getting 5 Cancer3) From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrs east and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX4) JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time So what is the real fact, that all I want to know. I have tired to show u how If I use astro.com/atlas is giving results I am getting Gemini lagna. Can someone please check this and let us know what the real setting is for Khartum, Sudan on 24th May 1976? Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [] On Behalf Of designhologramSent: Tuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PMTo: astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comSubject: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros Dear Ashji,i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get toproper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were notcoming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions about it.So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail in theforum.Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KASwithout any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software and relymore on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and seesome success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , since ididnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just startedstudying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, butstill i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, will putDST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted toinform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believingthat 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.Thanks Swati--- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Ash's Corner"<kas wrote:>> Dear Swati,>> Please do not say wrong things .>> I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in thiscase.>> If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES asgiven> in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.>> So what is the fact?>> Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan for24th> May 1976.>>> If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and withDaylight> savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I amgetting 3> hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.>> When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.>> So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with properdata> first and the charts have been cast accurately.>>> Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca>> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] On Behalf Of> designhologram> Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM> To: astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriagefor a> chart with 3 zeros>> Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List>> There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay of> marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus", and marriage timing, dated> 14 feb 2007> the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put totest> their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.> I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participatedin> the discussion .>> this is a link to one of the messages.> http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/ message/14224>> the details for the chart are , although i would like to point thatonce> this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken and> lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs tomake> those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,> which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on this> with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can be of> help.> according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini ,> while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancerinstead> of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr softwares> as well,> parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std time> zone.> while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time> zone as well.>> Details>> date: 24th may 1976 ,> place : khartoum sundan> time: 10:20>> timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for the> year 1976 and also put DSt )>> here are the sites for reference for correcting:> http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone. html?n=118> <http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone. html?n=118 & syear=1970>> & syear=1970> http://www.astro. com/cgi/ade. cgi>> Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart forstudy> from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and oter> characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.>> Thanks once again> Swati>> --- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> ashsam73@ wrote:> >> > Dear Ramesh,> >> > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me> > attempt it.> >> > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial> > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7 bindus.> > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst andit> > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.> >> > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so its> > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not LoDor> > LoE for 12th as B.> >> > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju isnot> > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is important as> > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with spermcount> > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the idea.> > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in deeperso> > what to do....> >> > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same time> > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.> >> > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moon is> > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.> >> > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd> > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its> > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose> Jupiter.> >> > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control over6th> > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4 bindus.> >> > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the 1st> > house results, i.e. quality.> >> > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and weget> > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other planets> > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets / lagna> > are supporting Jupiter.> >> > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and theyare> >> > 1) Lagna> > 2) Sun> > 3) Moon> > 4) Mars> > 5) Mercury> > 6) Jupiter,> > 7) Venus> >> > So these all are supporting except Saturn.> >> > Hope that helps,> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> >> > --- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,"aarceemastro2002"> > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,> > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and techniques> > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, it can> > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.> > > But my one query remained pending.> > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10> relationship> > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other handMa> > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of> > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV points?> > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be therole> > > of Ju in this context?> > > I think this time you will reply.> > > Thanks and regards.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > > --- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinion and> it> > > > need not be right.> > > >> > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve when its> > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have atleast3> > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.> > > >> > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can have such> > > strong> > > > relationships.> > > >> > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not have> that> > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able toclarify> > > > with dates and times of such.> > > >> > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt> > > maritial> > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7th> sight> > > of> > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoilt and> he> > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple relationships> so> > > no> > > > doubt about that.> > > >> > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in7th> > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry. That> will> > > > be due to his family status or intervention.> > > >> > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happiness in> > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result and mosltyin> > > 2nd> > > > or 3rd sector.> > > >> > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn'tgiven> so> > > > far, why will it give now going in future?> > > >> > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.> > > >> > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and thatwill> > > also> > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and lets> watch,> > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.> > > >> > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us> > > posted> > > > on the outcome.> > > >> > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give marriage> > > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has> said...> > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2nd or> 3rd> > > > sector... is what i feel...> > > >> > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it does not> > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....> > > >> > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > >> > > > --- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,> "aarceemastro2002"> > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,> > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov1973.> > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-> > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.> > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination> > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9combination.> > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.> > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.> > > > >> > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of age i.e.> > > after> > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?> > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.> > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.> > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in> > > marriage.Moon> > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two> > > malefics> > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.> > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo andRa.This> > > may> > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.> > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in> > > navamsa.> > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.> > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord)aspects> > > his> > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.> > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity> towards> > > one> > > > > another.> > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus> > > reducing> > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on> 12th> > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housedfor> > > > > marriage purpose.> > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10> relationship. Ju> > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these> > > > > relationship.> > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in> > > detail ?> > > > > I think this relationship brings very important for thischart.> > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only last> two> > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.> > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.Itmeans> > > > > native should have marriage.> > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.> > > Sometimes he> > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is> hypocritic> > > > > also.> > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according tome> > > it> > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being6th> > > lord.> > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagna and> > > its> > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.> > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and> > > conjunction> > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.> > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried ?> > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but itdid> > > not> > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.> > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did nothappen.> > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD to Me> LoE.> > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it aspects> > > house> > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should haveshown> > > its> > > > > result.> > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?> > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > --- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know what> happens> > > in> > > > > end> > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.> > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for> all.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "harjeet> > > bakshi"> > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/ Ashji,> > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th houseand> 2> > > in> > > > > 12th> > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be> > > obstacle> > > > > or> > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereosare> > > > > placed.> > > > > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and 12th> > > house> > > > > which> > > > > > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.> > > > > > > despite these other factors already discussed might notgive> > > > > native a> > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju> > > antra).> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my> > > friend> > > > > who is> > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might havemore> > > than> > > > > 2 or> > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case ofnon-marital> > > > > status.> > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which ishis> > > 6th> > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra of> > > jupiter> > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due tosome> > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl thethings> > > didnt> > > > > work> > > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and might> > > deliver> > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again ifrequired> :> > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.> > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu aspected> by> > > > > saturn.> > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In> > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,"aarceemastro2002"> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,> > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period> from> > > 10> > > > > Aug> > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?> > > > > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve iskarak> > > for> > > > > 4th> > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is> 12th> > > > > lord of B> > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house A.> > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.> > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highestpower> > > with> > > > > 40> > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.> > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this houseis> > > > > afflicted> > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of Ma> > > (2nd> > > > > and 7th> > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is some> > > > > affliction of> > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.> > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?> > > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > --- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "Sanjiva> > > > > Sharma"> > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > You staed that:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected by> Sa> > > and> > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > regular> > > > > > > > checkups"> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following points.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju> > > should> > > > > be in> > > > > > > > Libra?> > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be afflicted> by> > > Sat> > > > > & > > > > > > > > Mars.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the "cancer " to come> out> > > as> > > > > > > > disease?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of thebody?> > > Is it> > > > > > > > related to> > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- In trologyandtimingeve nts > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com>> > > > > > > > >> > > <trologyandtimingeve nts > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libraand> > > ve in> > > > > > > > krittika> > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too theyare> > > in> > > > > 1:7 so> > > > > > > > > > having enmity.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This person might be "allergic" to authority.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspectedby> > > Sa> > > > > and> > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > regular> > > > > > > > checkups.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his own> > > > > business or> > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even ifhe> > > > > marries. So> > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very> > > delayed in> > > > > life> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for> > > companionship.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he don't> > > have> > > > > > > > blessings> > > > > > > > > > either.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , bala> > > sosale> > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or Sa> > > but> > > > > has 3> > > > > > > > zeros?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He isstill> > > not> > > > > > > > married.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Male> > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976> > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.> > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan> > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00> > > > > > > > > > > 15N32> > > > > > > > > > > 32E32> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma> > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6 Cn13> > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > > Bala> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail> beta.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been> removed]> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

August 6, 2008

Dear Ashji,

i wil just give a last try to explain you ,

essentially what ur doing is 1DST + 3 CAST = (-4 east of GMT)

essentially what needs to be DONE is 1DST +2 CAT ( central african

time) = 3 east of GMT or 3 CAST (Central African Saving Time )

EET time zone is being used now introduced in 2000 i guess , which is

different from CAT time zone system

So we get 5 degrees cancer in KAS or 4 degrees 53 min in cancer with

lahiri Ayanamsa.

hope this clears the air. We are all treading on same path to get

consumed by light of knowledge.

Thanks

Swati

, " Ash's Corner "

<kas wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil ji and Blaine ji,

>

> This is what is given in the

>

> Sunday, April 25, 1976 at 1:00:00 AM1 hour+3 hoursCAST

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> On Behalf Of Sunil

Sharma

> Wednesday August 6, 2008 11:42 AM

>

> Re: Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> for a chart with 3 zeros

>

> HI Blaine,

> Sorry, perhaps the right expression should be 'offset'? not time zone.

I

> agree Time Zone should be -2 and -3 hours for astrological purposes.

> Sunil

>

> --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Blaine Watson blainepw wrote:

> Blaine Watson blainepw

> Re: Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> for a chart with 3 zeros

>

> Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 8:26 AM

> dear sunil

>

> as per all atlases i have access to it should be -2 time zone with dst

so

> eedt and add -3 to get ut

>

> On 6-Aug-08, at 8:15 AM, Sunil Sharma wrote:

>

> Hi Ash,

> Time Zone for Khartoum, Sudan is UTC +2 hours. For 1976, DST started

on

> Sunday the 25th April 1976 at 00:00:00 hours, on which day the offset

> changed from UTC +2 hours to UTC +3 hours. It ended on Thursday the 14

> October 1976 at 00:00:00 hours when the clock reverted to UTC +2 hours

from

> UTC +3hours. You can check the link below:

> http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/clockchange.

>

> html?n=118 & year=1976

> Hope I have been of help.

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas wrote:

> Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas

> RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> for a chart with 3 zeros

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:34 AM

> Dear Swati,

>

> You still don?t get it. I don?t have any contention, I just want to

get

> correct facts.

>

> 1) Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memory

serves me

> right.

> 2) You are getting 5 Cancer

> 3) From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrs

east

> and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX

> 4) JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time

>

> So what is the real fact, that all I want to know.

>

> I have tired to show u how If I use astro.com/atlas is giving results

I am

> getting Gemini lagna.

>

> Can someone please check this and let us know what the real setting is

for

> Khartum, Sudan on 24th May 1976?

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan

> dtimingevents] On Behalf Of designhologram

> Tuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PM

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriage

for a

> chart with 3 zeros

>

> Dear Ashji,

> i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get to

> proper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were not

> coming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions about

it.

> So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail in

the

> forum.

>

> Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KAS

> without any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software and

rely

> more on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and see

> some success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , since

i

> didnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just started

> studying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, but

> still i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.

> So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, will

put

> DST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted to

> inform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,

> and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.

>

> And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believing

> that 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.

>

> Thanks Swati

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com,

> " Ash's Corner@ "

> kas@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Swati,

> >

> > Please do not say wrong things .

> >

> > I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in this

> case.

> >

> > If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES as

> given

> > in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.

> >

> > So what is the fact?

> >

> > Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan for

> 24th

> > May 1976.

> >

> > If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and with

> Daylight

> > savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I am

> getting 3

> > hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.

> >

> > When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.

> >

> > So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with proper

> data

> > first and the charts have been cast accurately.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> <%40> ] On Behalf Of

> > designhologram

> > Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> for a

> > chart with 3 zeros

> >

> > Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List

> >

> > There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay of

> > marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus " , and marriage timing, dated

> > 14 feb 2007

> > the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put to

> test

> > their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.

> > I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participated

> in

> > the discussion .

> >

> > this is a link to one of the messages.

> > http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/

> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118>

> message/14224

> >

> > the details for the chart are , although i would like to point that

> once

> > this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken

and

> > lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs to

> make

> > those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,

> > which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on

this

> > with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can be

of

> > help.

> > according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini

,

> > while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancer

> instead

> > of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr

softwares

> > as well,

> > parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std

time

> > zone.

> > while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time

> > zone as well.

> >

> > Details

> >

> > date: 24th may 1976 ,

> > place : khartoum sundan

> > time: 10:20

> >

> > timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for

the

> > year 1976 and also put DSt )

> >

> > here are the sites for reference for correcting:

> > http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.

html?n=118

> > <http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.

> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118 & syear=1970>

> html?n=118 & syear=1970>

> > & syear=1970

> > http://www.astro. <http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi> com/cgi/ade.

cgi

> >

> > Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart for

> study

> > from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and

oter

> > characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.

> >

> > Thanks once again

> > Swati

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , " ashsam73 "

> > ashsam73@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > >

> > > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me

> > > attempt it.

> > >

> > > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial

> > > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7

bindus.

> > > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst and

> it

> > > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.

> > >

> > > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so

its

> > > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not LoD

> or

> > > LoE for 12th as B.

> > >

> > > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju is

> not

> > > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is important

as

> > > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with sperm

> count

> > > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the

idea.

> > > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in deeper

> so

> > > what to do....

> > >

> > > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same

time

> > > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.

> > >

> > > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moon

is

> > > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.

> > >

> > > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd

> > > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its

> > > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose

> > Jupiter.

> > >

> > > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control over

> 6th

> > > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4

bindus.

> > >

> > > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the

1st

> > > house results, i.e. quality.

> > >

> > > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and we

> get

> > > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other

planets

> > > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets /

lagna

> > > are supporting Jupiter.

> > >

> > > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and they

> are

> > >

> > > 1) Lagna

> > > 2) Sun

> > > 3) Moon

> > > 4) Mars

> > > 5) Mercury

> > > 6) Jupiter,

> > > 7) Venus

> > >

> > > So these all are supporting except Saturn.

> > >

> > > Hope that helps,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

> " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,

> > > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and

techniques

> > > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, it

can

> > > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.

> > > > But my one query remained pending.

> > > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10

> > relationship

> > > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other hand

> Ma

> > > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of

> > > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV

points

> ?

> > > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be the

> role

> > > > of Ju in this context?

> > > > I think this time you will reply.

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinion

and

> > it

> > > > > need not be right.

> > > > >

> > > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve when

its

> > > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have

atleast

> 3

> > > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can have

such

> > > > strong

> > > > > relationships.

> > > > >

> > > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not have

> > that

> > > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able to

> clarify

> > > > > with dates and times of such.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt

> > > > maritial

> > > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7th

> > sight

> > > > of

> > > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoilt

and

> > he

> > > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple

relationships

> > so

> > > > no

> > > > > doubt about that.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in

> 7th

> > > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry. That

> > will

> > > > > be due to his family status or intervention.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happiness

in

> > > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result and

moslty

> in

> > > > 2nd

> > > > > or 3rd sector.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn't

> given

> > so

> > > > > far, why will it give now going in future?

> > > > >

> > > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.

> > > > >

> > > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and that

> will

> > > > also

> > > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and lets

> > watch,

> > > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.

> > > > >

> > > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us

> > > > posted

> > > > > on the outcome.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give

marriage

> > > > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has

> > said...

> > > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2nd

or

> > 3rd

> > > > > sector... is what i feel...

> > > > >

> > > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it does

not

> > > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

> > " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,

> > > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov

> 1973.

> > > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-

> > > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.

> > > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination

> > > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9

> combination.

> > > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

> > > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

> > > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.

> > > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of age

i.e.

> > > > after

> > > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?

> > > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.

> > > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.

> > > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in

> > > > marriage.Moon

> > > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two

> > > > malefics

> > > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.

> > > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo and

> Ra.This

> > > > may

> > > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.

> > > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in

> > > > navamsa.

> > > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.

> > > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord)

> aspects

> > > > his

> > > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.

> > > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity

> > towards

> > > > one

> > > > > > another.

> > > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus

> > > > reducing

> > > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on

> > 12th

> > > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housed

> for

> > > > > > marriage purpose.

> > > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10

> > relationship. Ju

> > > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these

> > > > > > relationship.

> > > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in

> > > > detail ?

> > > > > > I think this relationship brings very important for this

> chart.

> > > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only

last

> > two

> > > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.

> > > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.It

> means

> > > > > > native should have marriage.

> > > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.

> > > > Sometimes he

> > > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is

> > hypocritic

> > > > > > also.

> > > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according to

> me

> > > > it

> > > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being

> 6th

> > > > lord.

> > > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagna

and

> > > > its

> > > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.

> > > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and

> > > > conjunction

> > > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.

> > > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried

?

> > > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but it

> did

> > > > not

> > > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.

> > > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did not

> happen.

> > > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD to

Me

> > LoE.

> > > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it

aspects

> > > > house

> > > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should have

> shown

> > > > its

> > > > > > result.

> > > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know what

> > happens

> > > > in

> > > > > > end

> > > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.

> > > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for

> > all.

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , " harjeet

> > > > bakshi "

> > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/ Ashji,

> > > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th house

> and

> > 2

> > > > in

> > > > > > 12th

> > > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be

> > > > obstacle

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereos

> are

> > > > > > placed.

> > > > > > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and

12th

> > > > house

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.

> > > > > > > > despite these other factors already discussed might not

> give

> > > > > > native a

> > > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju

> > > > antra).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my

> > > > friend

> > > > > > who is

> > > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might have

> more

> > > > than

> > > > > > 2 or

> > > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case of

> non-marital

> > > > > > status.

> > > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which is

> his

> > > > 6th

> > > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra

of

> > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due to

> some

> > > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl the

> things

> > > > didnt

> > > > > > work

> > > > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and

might

> > > > deliver

> > > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again if

> required

> > :

> > > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> > > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu

aspected

> > by

> > > > > > saturn.

> > > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

> " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period

> > from

> > > > 10

> > > > > > Aug

> > > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > > > > > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve is

> karak

> > > > for

> > > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is

> > 12th

> > > > > > lord of B

> > > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house

A.

> > > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.

> > > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highest

> power

> > > > with

> > > > > > 40

> > > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.

> > > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this

house

> is

> > > > > > afflicted

> > > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of

Ma

> > > > (2nd

> > > > > > and 7th

> > > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is

some

> > > > > > affliction of

> > > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.

> > > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?

> > > > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , " Sanjiva

> > > > > > Sharma "

> > > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You staed that:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > " In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected

by

> > Sa

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for

> > > > regular

> > > > > > > > > checkups "

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following points.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju

> > > > should

> > > > > > be in

> > > > > > > > > Libra?

> > > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be

afflicted

> > by

> > > > Sat

> > > > > > &

> > > > > > > > > Mars.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the " cancer " to

come

> > out

> > > > as

> > > > > > > > > disease?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the

> body?

> > > > Is it

> > > > > > > > > related to

> > > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > trologyandtimingeve

> <trologyandtimingevents%40> nts (AT) (DOT)

com

> > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > <trologyandtimingeve

> <trologyandtimingevents%40> nts (AT) (DOT)

com

> > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra

> and

> > > > ve in

> > > > > > > > > krittika

> > > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they

> are

> > > > in

> > > > > > 1:7 so

> > > > > > > > > > > having enmity.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > This person might be " allergic " to authority.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected

> by

> > > > Sa

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for

> > > > regular

> > > > > > > > > checkups.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his

own

> > > > > > business or

> > > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even if

> he

> > > > > > marries. So

> > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very

> > > > delayed in

> > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for

> > > > companionship.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he

don't

> > > > have

> > > > > > > > > blessings

> > > > > > > > > > > either.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , bala

> > > > sosale

> > > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or

Sa

> > > > but

> > > > > > has 3

> > > > > > > > > zeros?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is

> still

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > > married.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > > > > > > > > 15N32

> > > > > > > > > > > > 32E32

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6

Cn

> 13

> > > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > Bala

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail

> > beta.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 6, 2008

Dear

Swati,

But

Astro.com/atlas is giving 3 hrs east and DST. So that is BGT -03:00 and DST set to yes

taking lagna to 22 Gemini xx

The

same way for Toronto, it is giving 4 hours west of GMT with DST.

I

am still not clear. If what u say

were true then astro.com/atlas should show 2 hrs east and DST.

Still

that 1 hour difference I am not clear on.

What

you are saying is to take 2 hours EET and DST and what I am saying and so is that

document to take 3 hours east and DST.

If

I enter EET -02:00 with DST = YES I get 5 Cn 47

If

I enter BGT -03:00 with DST = Yes I get 22 Ge 16.

The

astro.com/atlas tells me to take 3 hrs with DST and u are taking 2 hours with

DST.

Cheers !!!

<http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=118 & year=1976>

On Behalf Of designhologram

Wednesday August 6, 2008

4:14 PM

To:

Subject:

Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3

zeros

Dear Ashji,

i wil just give a last try to explain you ,

essentially what ur doing is 1DST + 3 CAST = (-4 east of GMT)

essentially what needs to be DONE is 1DST +2 CAT ( central african

time) = 3 east of GMT or 3 CAST (Central African Saving Time )

EET time zone is being used now introduced in 2000 i guess , which is

different from CAT time zone system

So we get 5 degrees cancer in KAS or 4 degrees 53 min in cancer with

lahiri Ayanamsa.

hope this clears the air. We are all treading on same path to get

consumed by light of knowledge.

Thanks

Swati

,

" Ash's Corner "

<kas wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil ji and Blaine ji,

>

> This is what is given in the

>

> Sunday, April 25, 1976 at 1:00:00 AM1 hour+3 hoursCAST

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

http://www.ashtro.ca

>

On Behalf Of Sunil

Sharma

> Wednesday August 6, 2008 11:42 AM

>

> Re: Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> for a chart with 3 zeros

>

> HI Blaine,

> Sorry, perhaps the right expression should be 'offset'? not time zone.

I

> agree Time Zone should be -2 and -3 hours for astrological purposes.

> Sunil

>

> --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Blaine Watson blainepw wrote:

> Blaine Watson blainepw

> Re: Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> for a chart with 3 zeros

>

> Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 8:26 AM

> dear sunil

>

> as per all atlases i have access to it should be -2 time zone with dst

so

> eedt and add -3 to get ut

>

> On 6-Aug-08, at 8:15 AM, Sunil Sharma wrote:

>

> Hi Ash,

> Time Zone for Khartoum, Sudan is UTC +2 hours. For 1976, DST started

on

> Sunday the 25th April 1976 at 00:00:00 hours, on which day the offset

> changed from UTC +2 hours to UTC +3 hours. It ended on Thursday the 14

> October 1976 at 00:00:00 hours when the clock reverted to UTC +2 hours

from

> UTC +3hours. You can check the link below:

> http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo

ck/clockchange.

>

> html?n=118 & year=1976

> Hope I have been of help.

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas wrote:

> Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas

> RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> for a chart with 3 zeros

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:34 AM

> Dear Swati,

>

> You still don?t get it. I don?t have any contention, I just want to

get

> correct facts.

>

> 1) Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memory

serves me

> right.

> 2) You are getting 5 Cancer

> 3) From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrs

east

> and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX

> 4) JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time

>

> So what is the real fact, that all I want to know.

>

> I have tired to show u how If I use astro.com/atlas is giving results

I am

> getting Gemini lagna.

>

> Can someone please check this and let us know what the real setting is

for

> Khartum, Sudan on 24th May 1976?

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

http://www.ashtro. ca

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan

> dtimingevents] On Behalf Of designhologram

> Tuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PM

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriage

for a

> chart with 3 zeros

>

> Dear Ashji,

> i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get to

> proper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were not

> coming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions about

it.

> So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail in

the

> forum.

>

> Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KAS

> without any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software and

rely

> more on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and see

> some success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , since

i

> didnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just started

> studying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, but

> still i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.

> So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, will

put

> DST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted to

> inform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,

> and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.

>

> And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believing

> that 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.

>

> Thanks Swati

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com,

> " Ash's Corner@ "

> kas@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Swati,

> >

> > Please do not say wrong things .

> >

> > I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in this

> case.

> >

> > If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES as

> given

> > in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.

> >

> > So what is the fact?

> >

> > Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan for

> 24th

> > May 1976.

> >

> > If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and with

> Daylight

> > savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I am

> getting 3

> > hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.

> >

> > When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.

> >

> > So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with proper

> data

> > first and the charts have been cast accurately.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

<http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> <%40> ] On Behalf Of

> > designhologram

> > Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> for a

> > chart with 3 zeros

> >

> > Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List

> >

> > There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay

of

> > marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus " , and marriage timing,

dated

> > 14 feb 2007

> > the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put to

> test

> > their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.

> > I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participated

> in

> > the discussion .

> >

> > this is a link to one of the messages.

> > http://groups. / group/astrologya

ndtimingevents/

> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118>

> message/14224

> >

> > the details for the chart are , although i would like to point that

> once

> > this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken

and

> > lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs to

> make

> > those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,

> > which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on

this

> > with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can be

of

> > help.

> > according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini

,

> > while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancer

> instead

> > of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr

softwares

> > as well,

> > parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std

time

> > zone.

> > while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time

> > zone as well.

> >

> > Details

> >

> > date: 24th may 1976 ,

> > place : khartoum sundan

> > time: 10:20

> >

> > timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for

the

> > year 1976 and also put DSt )

> >

> > here are the sites for reference for correcting:

> > http://www.timeandd

ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.

html?n=118

> > <http://www.timeandd

ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.

> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118 & syear=1970>

> html?n=118 & syear=1970>

> > & syear=1970

> > http://www.astro. <http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi>

com/cgi/ade.

cgi

> >

> > Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart for

> study

> > from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and

oter

> > characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.

> >

> > Thanks once again

> > Swati

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > ashsam73@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > >

> > > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let

me

> > > attempt it.

> > >

> > > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial

> > > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7

bindus.

> > > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst

and

> it

> > > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.

> > >

> > > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so

its

> > > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not

LoD

> or

> > > LoE for 12th as B.

> > >

> > > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju

is

> not

> > > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is

important

as

> > > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with sperm

> count

> > > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the

idea.

> > > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in

deeper

> so

> > > what to do....

> > >

> > > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same

time

> > > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.

> > >

> > > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight,

Moon

is

> > > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.

> > >

> > > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from

2nd

> > > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time

its

> > > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose

> > Jupiter.

> > >

> > > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control

over

> 6th

> > > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4

bindus.

> > >

> > > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the

1st

> > > house results, i.e. quality.

> > >

> > > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and

we

> get

> > > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other

planets

> > > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets /

lagna

> > > are supporting Jupiter.

> > >

> > > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and

they

> are

> > >

> > > 1) Lagna

> > > 2) Sun

> > > 3) Moon

> > > 4) Mars

> > > 5) Mercury

> > > 6) Jupiter,

> > > 7) Venus

> > >

> > > So these all are supporting except Saturn.

> > >

> > > Hope that helps,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

> " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,

> > > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and

techniques

> > > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt,

it

can

> > > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very

correct.

> > > > But my one query remained pending.

> > > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10

> > relationship

> > > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other

hand

> Ma

> > > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement

of

> > > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV

points

> ?

> > > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be

the

> role

> > > > of Ju in this context?

> > > > I think this time you will reply.

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my

opinion

and

> > it

> > > > > need not be right.

> > > > >

> > > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that

Ve when

its

> > > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must

have

atleast

> 3

> > > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can

clarify.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can

have

such

> > > > strong

> > > > > relationships.

> > > > >

> > > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do

not have

> > that

> > > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is

able to

> clarify

> > > > > with dates and times of such.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will

spoilt

> > > > maritial

> > > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is

having 7th

> > sight

> > > > of

> > > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its

spoilt

and

> > he

> > > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple

relationships

> > so

> > > > no

> > > > > doubt about that.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words

mars is in

> 7th

> > > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might

marry. That

> > will

> > > > > be due to his family status or intervention.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less

happiness

in

> > > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result

and

moslty

> in

> > > > 2nd

> > > > > or 3rd sector.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it

hasn't

> given

> > so

> > > > > far, why will it give now going in future?

> > > > >

> > > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will

learn.

> > > > >

> > > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power

and that

> will

> > > > also

> > > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over

and lets

> > watch,

> > > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.

> > > > >

> > > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will

keep us

> > > > posted

> > > > > on the outcome.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to

give

marriage

> > > > > too... so far its not been successful from what

Harjeet has

> > said...

> > > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to

end 2nd

or

> > 3rd

> > > > > sector... is what i feel...

> > > > >

> > > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it

does

not

> > > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.

ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

> > " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,

> > > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given

as 27 Nov

> 1973.

> > > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-

> > > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.

> > > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination

> > > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in

5:9

> combination.

> > > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10

combination.

> > > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10

combination.

> > > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and

navamsa.

> > > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years

of age

i.e.

> > > > after

> > > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?

> > > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.

> > > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.

> > > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not

interested in

> > > > marriage.Moon

> > > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates

two

> > > > malefics

> > > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.

> > > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve,

Mo and

> Ra.This

> > > > may

> > > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.

> > > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by

Ra only in

> > > > navamsa.

> > > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.

> > > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and

12th lord)

> aspects

> > > > his

> > > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.

> > > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7

means enmity

> > towards

> > > > one

> > > > > > another.

> > > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong

points.Thus

> > > > reducing

> > > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic

influence on

> > 12th

> > > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very

important housed

> for

> > > > > > marriage purpose.

> > > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10

> > relationship. Ju

> > > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to

understand these

> > > > > > relationship.

> > > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship

understand to me in

> > > > detail ?

> > > > > > I think this relationship brings very important

for this

> chart.

> > > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I

found only

last

> > two

> > > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the

marriage.

> > > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12

points in WS.It

> means

> > > > > > native should have marriage.

> > > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard

worker.

> > > > Sometimes he

> > > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work.

He is

> > hypocritic

> > > > > > also.

> > > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But

according to

> me

> > > > it

> > > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of

its being

> 6th

> > > > lord.

> > > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences

between lagna

and

> > > > its

> > > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point

scale.

> > > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets

association and

> > > > conjunction

> > > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.

> > > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is

still unmarried

?

> > > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me

LoE but it

> did

> > > > not

> > > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.

> > > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It

did not

> happen.

> > > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma

is SD to

Me

> > LoE.

> > > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event

because it

aspects

> > > > house

> > > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he

should have

> shown

> > > > its

> > > > > > result.

> > > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members

?

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious

to know what

> > happens

> > > > in

> > > > > > end

> > > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.

> > > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning

experience for

> > all.

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.

ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" harjeet

> > > > bakshi "

> > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/ Ashji,

> > > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one

zero in 5th house

> and

> > 2

> > > > in

> > > > > > 12th

> > > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson

that there would be

> > > > obstacle

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the

house where zereos

> are

> > > > > > placed.

> > > > > > > > so the native might lack something

related to 5th and

12th

> > > > house

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > might be associated with relationship

and pleasures.

> > > > > > > > despite these other factors already

discussed might not

> give

> > > > > > native a

> > > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he

marries(might be in Ju

> > > > antra).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had

given a chart of my

> > > > friend

> > > > > > who is

> > > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out

that he might have

> more

> > > > than

> > > > > > 2 or

> > > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a

case of

> non-marital

> > > > > > status.

> > > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in

Ju antra (which is

> his

> > > > 6th

> > > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage

in current antra

of

> > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but

unfortunately due to

> some

> > > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of

the girl the

> things

> > > > didnt

> > > > > > work

> > > > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of

ju antra and

might

> > > > deliver

> > > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his

data again if

> required

> > :

> > > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> > > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with

moon and rahu

aspected

> > by

> > > > > > saturn.

> > > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more

points.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

> " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve

main during the period

> > from

> > > > 10

> > > > > > Aug

> > > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > > > > > > > > The native is currently passing

through Ve MD.Ve is

> karak

> > > > for

> > > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th

house matter. Me who is

> > 12th

> > > > > > lord of B

> > > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the

chart is in house

A.

> > > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong

with 5 bindus.

> > > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th

as B with highest

> power

> > > > with

> > > > > > 40

> > > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19

points for Ju in WS.

> > > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of

happiness also but this

house

> is

> > > > > > afflicted

> > > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and

receiving malefic sight of

Ma

> > > > (2nd

> > > > > > and 7th

> > > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord

Ju. Hence there is

some

> > > > > > affliction of

> > > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.

> > > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on

this house ?

> > > > > > > > > This is for learning

purpose.Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" Sanjiva

> > > > > > Sharma "

> > > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You staed that:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > " In this chart also Ju

is in Libra and its aspected

by

> > Sa

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to

cancer. He must go for

> > > > regular

> > > > > > > > > checkups "

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following

points.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is

it necessary that Ju

> > > > should

> > > > > > be in

> > > > > > > > > Libra?

> > > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed

that Ju should be

afflicted

> > by

> > > > Sat

> > > > > > &

> > > > > > > > > Mars.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing

of the " cancer " to

come

> > out

> > > > as

> > > > > > > > > disease?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer

on which part of the

> body?

> > > > Is it

> > > > > > > > > related to

> > > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > trologyandtimingeve

> <trologyandtimingevents%40> nts (AT) (DOT)

com

> > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > <trologyandtimingeve

> <trologyandtimingevents%40> nts (AT) (DOT)

com

> > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there

are 3 zeros, ju in Libra

> and

> > > > ve in

> > > > > > > > > krittika

> > > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting

this Venus and that too they

> are

> > > > in

> > > > > > 1:7 so

> > > > > > > > > > > having enmity.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > This person might be

" allergic " to authority.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is

in Libra and its aspected

> by

> > > > Sa

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone

to cancer. He must go for

> > > > regular

> > > > > > > > > checkups.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent

and might want to do his

own

> > > > > > business or

> > > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart

of non marital status.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > His relationships might

not last for long, even if

> he

> > > > > > marries. So

> > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of

marriage it might be very

> > > > delayed in

> > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40

years and that too for

> > > > companionship.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > However I feel this

person might not marry, he

don't

> > > > have

> > > > > > > > > blessings

> > > > > > > > > > > either.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

astrologyandtiminge

> <%40> vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , bala

> > > > sosale

> > > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the

blog.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart

where there is no delay by Ju or

Sa

> > > > but

> > > > > > has 3

> > > > > > > > > zeros?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate

delay in this chart? He is

> still

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > > married.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the

details.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > > > > > > > > 15N32

> > > > > > > > > > > > 32E32

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10

Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju

21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6

Cn

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> > > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > Bala

> > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving

about the all-new Mail

> > beta.

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August 6, 2008

all the atlases i have access to take 2 hours east and dst so karka lagna. funny the confusion eh? does the astro.com atlas use the same ayanamsha as kas?On 6-Aug-08, at 1:33 PM, Ash's Corner wrote:Dear Swati, But Astro.com/atlas is giving 3 hrs east and DST. So that is BGT -03:00 and DST set to yes taking lagna to 22 Gemini xx The same way for Toronto, it is giving 4 hours west of GMT with DST. I am still not clear. If what u say were true then astro.com/atlas should show 2 hrs east and DST. Still that 1 hour difference I am not clear on. What you are saying is to take 2 hours EET and DST and what I am saying and so is that document to take 3 hours east and DST. If I enter EET -02:00 with DST = YES I get 5 Cn 47 If I enter BGT -03:00 with DST = Yes I get 22 Ge 16. The astro.com/atlas tells me to take 3 hrs with DST and u are taking 2 hours with DST. Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of designhologramSent: Wednesday August 6, 2008 4:14 PMTo: Subject: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros Dear Ashji,i wil just give a last try to explain you ,essentially what ur doing is 1DST + 3 CAST = (-4 east of GMT)essentially what needs to be DONE is 1DST +2 CAT ( central africantime) = 3 east of GMT or 3 CAST (Central African Saving Time )EET time zone is being used now introduced in 2000 i guess , which isdifferent from CAT time zone systemSo we get 5 degrees cancer in KAS or 4 degrees 53 min in cancer withlahiri Ayanamsa.hope this clears the air. We are all treading on same path to getconsumed by light of knowledge.ThanksSwati--- In , "Ash's Corner"<kas wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji and Blaine ji,>> This is what is given in the>>> Sunday, April 25, 1976 at 1:00:00 AM1 hour+3 hoursCAST>> Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca>> > On Behalf Of SunilSharma> Wednesday August 6, 2008 11:42 AM> To: > Re: Re: Question on delay ofMarriage> for a chart with 3 zeros>>> HI Blaine,> Sorry, perhaps the right expression should be 'offset'? not time zone.I> agree Time Zone should be -2 and -3 hours for astrological purposes.> Sunil>> --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Blaine Watson blainepw wrote:> Blaine Watson blainepw Re: Re: Question on delay ofMarriage> for a chart with 3 zeros> To: > Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 8:26 AM> dear sunil>> as per all atlases i have access to it should be -2 time zone with dstso> eedt and add -3 to get ut>>> On 6-Aug-08, at 8:15 AM, Sunil Sharma wrote:>>>>>> Hi Ash,> Time Zone for Khartoum, Sudan is UTC +2 hours. For 1976, DST startedon> Sunday the 25th April 1976 at 00:00:00 hours, on which day the offset> changed from UTC +2 hours to UTC +3 hours. It ended on Thursday the 14> October 1976 at 00:00:00 hours when the clock reverted to UTC +2 hoursfrom> UTC +3hours. You can check the link below:> http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/clockchange.><http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=118 & year=1976>> html?n=118 & year=1976> Hope I have been of help.> Regards> Sunil>>> --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas wrote:> Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay ofMarriage> for a chart with 3 zeros> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:34 AM> Dear Swati,>> You still don?t get it. I don?t have any contention, I just want toget> correct facts.>> 1) Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memoryserves me> right.> 2) You are getting 5 Cancer> 3) From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrseast> and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX> 4) JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time>> So what is the real fact, that all I want to know.>> I have tired to show u how If I use astro.com/atlas is giving resultsI am> getting Gemini lagna.>> Can someone please check this and let us know what the real setting isfor> Khartum, Sudan on 24th May 1976?>>> Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca>> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan> dtimingevents] On Behalf Of designhologram> Tuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PM> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriagefor a> chart with 3 zeros>> Dear Ashji,> i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get to> proper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were not> coming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions aboutit.> So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail inthe> forum.>> Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KAS> without any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software andrely> more on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and see> some success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , sincei> didnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just started> studying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, but> still i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.> So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, willput> DST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted to> inform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,> and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.>> And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believing> that 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.>> Thanks Swati>> astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents ,> "Ash's Corner@"> kas@ wrote:> >> > Dear Swati,> >> > Please do not say wrong things .> >> > I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in this> case.> >> > If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES as> given> > in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.> >> > So what is the fact?> >> > Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan for> 24th> > May 1976.> >> >> > If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and with> Daylight> > savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I am> getting 3> > hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.> >> > When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.> >> > So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with proper> data> > first and the charts have been cast accurately.> >> >> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> >> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <%40> ] On Behalf Of> > designhologram> > Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay ofMarriage> for a> > chart with 3 zeros> >> > Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List> >> > There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay of> > marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus", and marriage timing, dated> > 14 feb 2007> > the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put to> test> > their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.> > I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participated> in> > the discussion .> >> > this is a link to one of the messages.> > http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/> </message/14224>> message/14224> >> > the details for the chart are , although i would like to point that> once> > this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be takenand> > lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs to> make> > those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,> > which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion onthis> > with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can beof> > help.> > according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini,> > while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancer> instead> > of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othrsoftwares> > as well,> > parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to stdtime> > zone.> > while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time> > zone as well.> >> > Details> >> > date: 24th may 1976 ,> > place : khartoum sundan> > time: 10:20> >> > timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also forthe> > year 1976 and also put DSt )> >> > here are the sites for reference for correcting:> > http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118> html?n=118>'>http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118> html?n=118> > <http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118 & syear=1970>> html?n=118 & syear=1970>> > & syear=1970> > http://www.astro. <http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi> com/cgi/ade.cgi> >> > Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart for> study> > from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. andoter> > characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.> >> > Thanks once again> > Swati> >> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > ashsam73@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ramesh,> > >> > > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me> > > attempt it.> > >> > > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial> > > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7bindus.> > > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst and> it> > > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.> > >> > > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house soits> > > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not LoD> or> > > LoE for 12th as B.> > >> > > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju is> not> > > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is importantas> > > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with sperm> count> > > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get theidea.> > > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in deeper> so> > > what to do....> > >> > > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the sametime> > > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.> > >> > > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moonis> > > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.> > >> > > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd> > > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its> > > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose> > Jupiter.> > >> > > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control over> 6th> > > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4bindus.> > >> > > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the1st> > > house results, i.e. quality.> > >> > > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and we> get> > > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and otherplanets> > > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets /lagna> > > are supporting Jupiter.> > >> > > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and they> are> > >> > > 1) Lagna> > > 2) Sun> > > 3) Moon> > > 4) Mars> > > 5) Mercury> > > 6) Jupiter,> > > 7) Venus> > >> > > So these all are supporting except Saturn.> > >> > > Hope that helps,> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > >> > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,> "aarceemastro2002"> > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,> > > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles andtechniques> > > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, itcan> > > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.> > > > But my one query remained pending.> > > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10> > relationship> > > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other hand> Ma> > > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of> > > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAVpoints> ?> > > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be the> role> > > > of Ju in this context?> > > > I think this time you will reply.> > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinionand> > it> > > > > need not be right.> > > > >> > > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve whenits> > > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must haveatleast> 3> > > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.> > > > >> > > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can havesuch> > > > strong> > > > > relationships.> > > > >> > > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not have> > that> > > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able to> clarify> > > > > with dates and times of such.> > > > >> > > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt> > > > maritial> > > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7th> > sight> > > > of> > > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoiltand> > he> > > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiplerelationships> > so> > > > no> > > > > doubt about that.> > > > >> > > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in> 7th> > > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry. That> > will> > > > > be due to his family status or intervention.> > > > >> > > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happinessin> > > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result andmoslty> in> > > > 2nd> > > > > or 3rd sector.> > > > >> > > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn't> given> > so> > > > > far, why will it give now going in future?> > > > >> > > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.> > > > >> > > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and that> will> > > > also> > > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and lets> > watch,> > > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.> > > > >> > > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us> > > > posted> > > > > on the outcome.> > > > >> > > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to givemarriage> > > > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has> > said...> > > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2ndor> > 3rd> > > > > sector... is what i feel...> > > > >> > > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it doesnot> > > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....> > > > >> > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > > > >> > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,> > "aarceemastro2002"> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,> > > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov> 1973.> > > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-> > > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.> > > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination> > > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9> combination.> > > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.> > > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.> > > > > >> > > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of agei.e.> > > > after> > > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?> > > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.> > > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.> > > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in> > > > marriage.Moon> > > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two> > > > malefics> > > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.> > > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo and> Ra.This> > > > may> > > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.> > > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in> > > > navamsa.> > > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.> > > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord)> aspects> > > > his> > > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.> > > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity> > towards> > > > one> > > > > > another.> > > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus> > > > reducing> > > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on> > 12th> > > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housed> for> > > > > > marriage purpose.> > > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10> > relationship. Ju> > > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these> > > > > > relationship.> > > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in> > > > detail ?> > > > > > I think this relationship brings very important for this> chart.> > > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found onlylast> > two> > > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.> > > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.It> means> > > > > > native should have marriage.> > > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.> > > > Sometimes he> > > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is> > hypocritic> > > > > > also.> > > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according to> me> > > > it> > > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being> 6th> > > > lord.> > > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagnaand> > > > its> > > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.> > > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and> > > > conjunction> > > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.> > > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried?> > > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but it> did> > > > not> > > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.> > > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did not> happen.> > > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD toMe> > LoE.> > > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because itaspects> > > > house> > > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should have> shown> > > > its> > > > > > result.> > > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?> > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know what> > happens> > > > in> > > > > > end> > > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.> > > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for> > all.> > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "harjeet> > > > bakshi"> > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/ Ashji,> > > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th house> and> > 2> > > > in> > > > > > 12th> > > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be> > > > obstacle> > > > > > or> > > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereos> are> > > > > > placed.> > > > > > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and12th> > > > house> > > > > > which> > > > > > > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.> > > > > > > > despite these other factors already discussed might not> give> > > > > > native a> > > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju> > > > antra).> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my> > > > friend> > > > > > who is> > > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might have> more> > > > than> > > > > > 2 or> > > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case of> non-marital> > > > > > status.> > > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which is> his> > > > 6th> > > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antraof> > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due to> some> > > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl the> things> > > > didnt> > > > > > work> > > > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra andmight> > > > deliver> > > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again if> required> > :> > > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.> > > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahuaspected> > by> > > > > > saturn.> > > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,> "aarceemastro2002"> > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,> > > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period> > from> > > > 10> > > > > > Aug> > > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?> > > > > > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve is> karak> > > > for> > > > > > 4th> > > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is> > 12th> > > > > > lord of B> > > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in houseA.> > > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.> > > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highest> power> > > > with> > > > > > 40> > > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.> > > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but thishouse> is> > > > > > afflicted> > > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight ofMa> > > > (2nd> > > > > > and 7th> > > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there issome> > > > > > affliction of> > > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.> > > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?> > > > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "Sanjiva> > > > > > Sharma"> > > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > You staed that:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > "In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspectedby> > Sa> > > > and> > > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > > regular> > > > > > > > > checkups"> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following points.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju> > > > should> > > > > > be in> > > > > > > > > Libra?> > > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should beafflicted> > by> > > > Sat> > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > Mars.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the "cancer " tocome> > out> > > > as> > > > > > > > > disease?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the> body?> > > > Is it> > > > > > > > > related to> > > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > trologyandtimingeve> <trologyandtimingevents%40> nts > > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com>> > > > > > > > > >> > > > <trologyandtimingeve> <trologyandtimingevents%40> nts > > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra> and> > > > ve in> > > > > > > > > krittika> > > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they> are> > > > in> > > > > > 1:7 so> > > > > > > > > > > having enmity.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This person might be "allergic" to authority.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected> by> > > > Sa> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > > regular> > > > > > > > > checkups.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do hisown> > > > > > business or> > > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even if> he> > > > > > marries. So> > > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very> > > > delayed in> > > > > > life> > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for> > > > companionship.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, hedon't> > > > have> > > > > > > > > blessings> > > > > > > > > > > either.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca<http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , bala> > > > sosale> > > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju orSa> > > > but> > > > > > has 3> > > > > > > > > zeros?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is> still> > > > not> > > > > > > > > married.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Male> > > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976> > > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.> > > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan> > > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00> > > > > > > > > > > > 15N32> > > > > > > > > > > > 32E32> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma> > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6Cn> 13> > > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > > > Bala> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail> > beta.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been> > removed]> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have beenremoved]> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

August 6, 2008

Dear Ashji, > But Astro.com/atlas is giving 3 hrs east and DST. So that is BGT -03:00 and> DST set to yes taking lagna to 22 Gemini xxi dont rely on astro.com/atlas and i think its a recent site. But still i think it is giving right information. it never says to add DSt when u have already done 3 hrs east of GMT , DSt is written as connotation. at same cordinate on top it mentions h2e+dt =3he for convience witten it is DST added . if i type in todays date, u wil find EET written somewhere for khartoum. > The same way for Toronto, it is giving 4 hours west of GMT with DST.i dont have time to try the whole world. it is very simple. > > I am still not clear. If what u say were true then astro.com/atlas should> show 2 hrs east and DST. what i say is true and that is what ur favorite site mentions. > Still that 1 hour difference I am not clear on.> What you are saying is to take 2 hours EET and DST and what I am saying and> so is that document to take 3 hours east and DST.May be KAS software doesnt allow to make charts before 2000 for khartoum. As EET is a recent system. or one can apply logic and put manually the corrections. > If I enter EET-02:00 with DST = YES I get 5 Cn 47 i put these settings > If I enter BGT -03:00 with DST = Yes I get 22 Ge 16.u put these settings > The astro.com/atlas tells me to take 3 hrs with DST and u are taking 2 hours> with DST.2+1=3 > Cheers !!!Swazz> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > On Behalf Of> designhologram> Wednesday August 6, 2008 4:14 PM> > Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a> chart with 3 zeros> > Dear Ashji,> i wil just give a last try to explain you ,> essentially what ur doing is 1DST + 3 CAST = (-4 east of GMT)> > essentially what needs to be DONE is 1DST +2 CAT ( central african> time) = 3 east of GMT or 3 CAST (Central African Saving Time )> > EET time zone is being used now introduced in 2000 i guess , which is> different from CAT time zone system> So we get 5 degrees cancer in KAS or 4 degrees 53 min in cancer with> lahiri Ayanamsa.> > hope this clears the air. We are all treading on same path to get> consumed by light of knowledge.> Thanks> Swati> > > <%40> , "Ash's Corner@"> kas@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji and Blaine ji,> >> > This is what is given in the> >> >> > Sunday, April 25, 1976 at 1:00:00 AM1 hour+3 hoursCAST> >> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> >> > > <%40> > > [ > <%40> ] On Behalf Of Sunil> Sharma> > Wednesday August 6, 2008 11:42 AM> > > <%40> > > Re: Re: Question on delay of> Marriage> > for a chart with 3 zeros> >> >> > HI Blaine,> > Sorry, perhaps the right expression should be 'offset'? not time zone.> I> > agree Time Zone should be -2 and -3 hours for astrological purposes.> > Sunil> >> > --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Blaine Watson blainepw@ wrote:> > Blaine Watson blainepw@> > Re: Re: Question on delay of> Marriage> > for a chart with 3 zeros> > > <%40> > > Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 8:26 AM> > dear sunil> >> > as per all atlases i have access to it should be -2 time zone with dst> so> > eedt and add -3 to get ut> >> >> > On 6-Aug-08, at 8:15 AM, Sunil Sharma wrote:> >> >> >> >> >> > Hi Ash,> > Time Zone for Khartoum, Sudan is UTC +2 hours. For 1976, DST started> on> > Sunday the 25th April 1976 at 00:00:00 hours, on which day the offset> > changed from UTC +2 hours to UTC +3 hours. It ended on Thursday the 14> > October 1976 at 00:00:00 hours when the clock reverted to UTC +2 hours> from> > UTC +3hours. You can check the link below:> > http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/clockchange.> >> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=118> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=118 & year=1976>> & year=1976>> > html?n=118 & year=1976> > Hope I have been of help.> > Regards> > Sunil> >> >> > --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas@ wrote:> > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas@> > RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of> Marriage> > for a chart with 3 zeros> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:34 AM> > Dear Swati,> >> > You still don?t get it. I don?t have any contention, I just want to> get> > correct facts.> >> > 1) Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memory> serves me> > right.> > 2) You are getting 5 Cancer> > 3) From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrs> east> > and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX> > 4) JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time> >> > So what is the real fact, that all I want to know.> >> > I have tired to show u how If I use astro.com/atlas is giving results> I am> > getting Gemini lagna.> >> > Can someone please check this and let us know what the real setting is> for> > Khartum, Sudan on 24th May 1976?> >> >> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca> >> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan> > dtimingevents] On Behalf Of designhologram> > Tuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PM> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriage> for a> > chart with 3 zeros> >> > Dear Ashji,> > i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get to> > proper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were not> > coming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions about> it.> > So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail in> the> > forum.> >> > Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KAS> > without any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software and> rely> > more on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and see> > some success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , since> i> > didnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just started> > studying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, but> > still i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.> > So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, will> put> > DST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted to> > inform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,> > and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.> >> > And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believing> > that 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.> >> > Thanks Swati> >> > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents@> s.com,> > "Ash's Corner@"> > kas@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Swati,> > >> > > Please do not say wrong things .> > >> > > I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in this> > case.> > >> > > If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES as> > given> > > in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.> > >> > > So what is the fact?> > >> > > Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan for> > 24th> > > May 1976.> > >> > >> > > If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and with> > Daylight> > > savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I am> > getting 3> > > hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.> > >> > > When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.> > >> > > So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with proper> > data> > > first and the charts have been cast accurately.> > >> > >> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>> > http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > >> > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents@> s.com> > > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > <%40> ] On Behalf Of> > > designhologram> > > Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM> > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents@> s.com> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of> Marriage> > for a> > > chart with 3 zeros> > >> > > Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List> > >> > > There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay of> > > marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus", and marriage timing, dated> > > 14 feb 2007> > > the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put to> > test> > > their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.> > > I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participated> > in> > > the discussion .> > >> > > this is a link to one of the messages.> > > http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/> > </message/14224>> > message/14224> > >> > > the details for the chart are , although i would like to point that> > once> > > this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken> and> > > lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs to> > make> > > those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,> > > which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on> this> > > with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can be> of> > > help.> > > according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini> ,> > > while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancer> > instead> > > of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr> softwares> > > as well,> > > parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std> time> > > zone.> > > while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time> > > zone as well.> > >> > > Details> > >> > > date: 24th may 1976 ,> > > place : khartoum sundan> > > time: 10:20> > >> > > timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for> the> > > year 1976 and also put DSt )> > >> > > here are the sites for reference for correcting:> > > http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.> > <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118> > html?n=118> > > <http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.> > <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118 & syear=1970>> & syear=1970>> > html?n=118 & syear=1970>> > > & syear=1970> > > http://www.astro. <http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi> com/cgi/ade.> cgi> > >> > > Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart for> > study> > > from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and> oter> > > characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.> > >> > > Thanks once again> > > Swati> > >> > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents@> s.com> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > ashsam73@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > >> > > > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me> > > > attempt it.> > > >> > > > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial> > > > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7> bindus.> > > > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst and> > it> > > > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.> > > >> > > > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so> its> > > > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not LoD> > or> > > > LoE for 12th as B.> > > >> > > > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju is> > not> > > > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is important> as> > > > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with sperm> > count> > > > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the> idea.> > > > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in deeper> > so> > > > what to do....> > > >> > > > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same> time> > > > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.> > > >> > > > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moon> is> > > > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.> > > >> > > > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd> > > > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its> > > > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose> > > Jupiter.> > > >> > > > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control over> > 6th> > > > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4> bindus.> > > >> > > > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the> 1st> > > > house results, i.e. quality.> > > >> > > > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and we> > get> > > > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other> planets> > > > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets /> lagna> > > > are supporting Jupiter.> > > >> > > > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and they> > are> > > >> > > > 1) Lagna> > > > 2) Sun> > > > 3) Moon> > > > 4) Mars> > > > 5) Mercury> > > > 6) Jupiter,> > > > 7) Venus> > > >> > > > So these all are supporting except Saturn.> > > >> > > > Hope that helps,> > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > > >> > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents@> s.com> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,> > "aarceemastro2002"> > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,> > > > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and> techniques> > > > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, it> can> > > > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.> > > > > But my one query remained pending.> > > > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10> > > relationship> > > > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other hand> > Ma> > > > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of> > > > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV> points> > ?> > > > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be the> > role> > > > > of Ju in this context?> > > > > I think this time you will reply.> > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents@> s.com> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinion> and> > > it> > > > > > need not be right.> > > > > >> > > > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve when> its> > > > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have> atleast> > 3> > > > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can have> such> > > > > strong> > > > > > relationships.> > > > > >> > > > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not have> > > that> > > > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able to> > clarify> > > > > > with dates and times of such.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt> > > > > maritial> > > > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7th> > > sight> > > > > of> > > > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoilt> and> > > he> > > > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple> relationships> > > so> > > > > no> > > > > > doubt about that.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in> > 7th> > > > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry. That> > > will> > > > > > be due to his family status or intervention.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happiness> in> > > > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result and> moslty> > in> > > > > 2nd> > > > > > or 3rd sector.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn't> > given> > > so> > > > > > far, why will it give now going in future?> > > > > >> > > > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.> > > > > >> > > > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and that> > will> > > > > also> > > > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and lets> > > watch,> > > > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.> > > > > >> > > > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us> > > > > posted> > > > > > on the outcome.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give> marriage> > > > > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has> > > said...> > > > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2nd> or> > > 3rd> > > > > > sector... is what i feel...> > > > > >> > > > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it does> not> > > > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....> > > > > >> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > > > > >> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents@> s.com> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,> > > "aarceemastro2002"> > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,> > > > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov> > 1973.> > > > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-> > > > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.> > > > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination> > > > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9> > combination.> > > > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.> > > > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of age> i.e.> > > > > after> > > > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?> > > > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.> > > > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.> > > > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in> > > > > marriage.Moon> > > > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two> > > > > malefics> > > > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.> > > > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo and> > Ra.This> > > > > may> > > > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.> > > > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in> > > > > navamsa.> > > > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.> > > > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord)> > aspects> > > > > his> > > > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.> > > > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity> > > towards> > > > > one> > > > > > > another.> > > > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus> > > > > reducing> > > > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on> > > 12th> > > > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housed> > for> > > > > > > marriage purpose.> > > > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10> > > relationship. Ju> > > > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these> > > > > > > relationship.> > > > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in> > > > > detail ?> > > > > > > I think this relationship brings very important for this> > chart.> > > > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only> last> > > two> > > > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.> > > > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.It> > means> > > > > > > native should have marriage.> > > > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.> > > > > Sometimes he> > > > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is> > > hypocritic> > > > > > > also.> > > > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according to> > me> > > > > it> > > > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being> > 6th> > > > > lord.> > > > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagna> and> > > > > its> > > > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.> > > > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and> > > > > conjunction> > > > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.> > > > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried> ?> > > > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but it> > did> > > > > not> > > > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.> > > > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did not> > happen.> > > > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD to> Me> > > LoE.> > > > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it> aspects> > > > > house> > > > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should have> > shown> > > > > its> > > > > > > result.> > > > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents@> s.com> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know what> > > happens> > > > > in> > > > > > > end> > > > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.> > > > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for> > > all.> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents@> s.com> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "harjeet> > > > > bakshi"> > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/ Ashji,> > > > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th house> > and> > > 2> > > > > in> > > > > > > 12th> > > > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be> > > > > obstacle> > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereos> > are> > > > > > > placed.> > > > > > > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and> 12th> > > > > house> > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.> > > > > > > > > despite these other factors already discussed might not> > give> > > > > > > native a> > > > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju> > > > > antra).> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my> > > > > friend> > > > > > > who is> > > > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might have> > more> > > > > than> > > > > > > 2 or> > > > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case of> > non-marital> > > > > > > status.> > > > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which is> > his> > > > > 6th> > > > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antra> of> > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due to> > some> > > > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl the> > things> > > > > didnt> > > > > > > work> > > > > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and> might> > > > > deliver> > > > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again if> > required> > > :> > > > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.> > > > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu> aspected> > > by> > > > > > > saturn.> > > > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents@> s.com> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,> > "aarceemastro2002"> > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,> > > > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period> > > from> > > > > 10> > > > > > > Aug> > > > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?> > > > > > > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve is> > karak> > > > > for> > > > > > > 4th> > > > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is> > > 12th> > > > > > > lord of B> > > > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in house> A.> > > > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.> > > > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highest> > power> > > > > with> > > > > > > 40> > > > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.> > > > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this> house> > is> > > > > > > afflicted> > > > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight of> Ma> > > > > (2nd> > > > > > > and 7th> > > > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is> some> > > > > > > affliction of> > > > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.> > > > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?> > > > > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents@> s.com> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "Sanjiva> > > > > > > Sharma"> > > > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > You staed that:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > "In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected> by> > > Sa> > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > > > regular> > > > > > > > > > checkups"> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following points.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju> > > > > should> > > > > > > be in> > > > > > > > > > Libra?> > > > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be> afflicted> > > by> > > > > Sat> > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > Mars.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the "cancer " to> come> > > out> > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > disease?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the> > body?> > > > > Is it> > > > > > > > > > related to> > > > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > trologyandtimingeve> > <trologyandtimingevents%40> nts (AT) (DOT) > com> > > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > <trologyandtimingeve> > <trologyandtimingevents%40> nts (AT) (DOT) > com> > > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra> > and> > > > > ve in> > > > > > > > > > krittika> > > > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they> > are> > > > > in> > > > > > > 1:7 so> > > > > > > > > > > > having enmity.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This person might be "allergic" to authority.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected> > by> > > > > Sa> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > > > regular> > > > > > > > > > checkups.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do his> own> > > > > > > business or> > > > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even if> > he> > > > > > > marries. So> > > > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very> > > > > delayed in> > > > > > > life> > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for> > > > > companionship.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he> don't> > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > blessings> > > > > > > > > > > > either.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40> vents@> s.com> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , bala> > > > > sosale> > > > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju or> Sa> > > > > but> > > > > > > has 3> > > > > > > > > > zeros?> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is> > still> > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > married.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Male> > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976> > > > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.> > > > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan> > > > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00> > > > > > > > > > > > > 15N32> > > > > > > > > > > > > 32E32> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma> > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6> Cn> > 13> > > > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bala> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail> > > beta.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been> > > removed]> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been> removed]> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

August 6, 2008

Dear

Blanie ji,

No,

I am not talking of ayanamsa, but try to

go to this link and enter Khartum, Sudan and u will

see that it says to use 3 hrs east of GMT and Daylight Savings is in effect.

Do

the same for Toronto for today as DST is in effect and it will give u 4 hrs

west of GMT and with Daylight in effect (EDT 4:00 with DST)

That’s

where my confusion is.

Here

is the link... try it out....

On

another note, Krushnaji has always taught me to first be satisfied with the

data from my heart and for some reason, I am not sure of this so am having a

hard timing moving on.

If

someone can tell me that astro.com is wrong or if I am blatantly overlooking

something that is so elementary or rudimentary and its really like “Duh....... “

, I am willing to understand and accept it.

Cheers !!!

On Behalf Of Blaine Watson

Wednesday August 6, 2008

4:54 PM

To:

Re:

Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3

zeros

all the

atlases i have access to take 2 hours east and dst so karka lagna. funny the

confusion eh? does the astro.com atlas use the same ayanamsha as kas?

On 6-Aug-08, at 1:33 PM,

Ash's Corner wrote:

Dear Swati,

But Astro.com/atlas is giving 3 hrs east and DST. So that is BGT -03:00 and DST set to

yes taking lagna to 22 Gemini xx

The same way for Toronto, it is giving 4 hours west of GMT with DST.

I am still not clear. If

what u say were true then astro.com/atlas should show 2 hrs east and DST.

Still that 1 hour difference I am not clear on.

What you are saying is to take 2 hours EET and DST and what I am

saying and so is that document to take 3 hours east and DST.

If I enter EET -02:00 with DST = YES I get 5 Cn 47

If I enter BGT -03:00 with DST = Yes I get 22 Ge 16.

The astro.com/atlas tells me to take 3 hrs with DST and u are

taking 2 hours with DST.

Cheers !!!

<http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=118 & year=1976>

On

Behalf Of designhologram

Wednesday August 6, 2008 4:14 PM

Re:

Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros

Dear Ashji,

i wil just give a last try to explain you ,

essentially what ur doing is 1DST + 3 CAST = (-4 east of GMT)

essentially what needs to be DONE is 1DST +2 CAT ( central african

time) = 3 east of GMT or 3 CAST (Central African Saving Time )

EET time zone is being used now introduced in 2000 i guess , which is

different from CAT time zone system

So we get 5 degrees cancer in KAS or 4 degrees 53 min in cancer with

lahiri Ayanamsa.

hope this clears the air. We are all treading on same path to get

consumed by light of knowledge.

Thanks

Swati

,

" Ash's Corner "

<kas wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil ji and Blaine ji,

>

> This is what is given in the

>

> Sunday, April 25, 1976 at 1:00:00 AM1 hour+3 hoursCAST

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

On Behalf Of Sunil

Sharma

> Wednesday August 6, 2008 11:42 AM

>

> Re: Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> for a chart with 3 zeros

>

> HI Blaine,

> Sorry, perhaps the right expression should be 'offset'? not time zone.

I

> agree Time Zone should be -2 and -3 hours for astrological purposes.

> Sunil

>

> --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Blaine Watson blainepw wrote:

> Blaine Watson blainepw

> Re: Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> for a chart with 3 zeros

>

> Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 8:26 AM

> dear sunil

>

> as per all atlases i have access to it should be -2 time zone with dst

so

> eedt and add -3 to get ut

>

> On 6-Aug-08, at 8:15 AM, Sunil Sharma wrote:

>

> Hi Ash,

> Time Zone for Khartoum, Sudan is UTC +2 hours. For 1976, DST started

on

> Sunday the 25th April 1976 at 00:00:00 hours, on which day the offset

> changed from UTC +2 hours to UTC +3 hours. It ended on Thursday the 14

> October 1976 at 00:00:00 hours when the clock reverted to UTC +2 hours

from

> UTC +3hours. You can check the link below:

> http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/clockchange.

>

> html?n=118 & year=1976

> Hope I have been of help.

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas wrote:

> Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas

> RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> for a chart with 3 zeros

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:34 AM

> Dear Swati,

>

> You still don?t get it. I don?t have any contention, I just want to

get

> correct facts.

>

> 1) Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memory

serves me

> right.

> 2) You are getting 5 Cancer

> 3) From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrs

east

> and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX

> 4) JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time

>

> So what is the real fact, that all I want to know.

>

> I have tired to show u how If I use astro.com/atlas is giving results

I am

> getting Gemini lagna.

>

> Can someone please check this and let us know what the real setting is

for

> Khartum, Sudan on 24th May 1976?

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan

> dtimingevents] On Behalf Of designhologram

> Tuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PM

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriage

for a

> chart with 3 zeros

>

> Dear Ashji,

> i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get to

> proper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were not

> coming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions about

it.

> So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail in

the

> forum.

>

> Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KAS

> without any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software and

rely

> more on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and see

> some success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , since

i

> didnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just started

> studying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, but

> still i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.

> So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, will

put

> DST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted to

> inform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,

> and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.

>

> And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believing

> that 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.

>

> Thanks Swati

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com,

> " Ash's Corner@ "

> kas@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Swati,

> >

> > Please do not say wrong things .

> >

> > I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in this

> case.

> >

> > If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES as

> given

> > in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.

> >

> > So what is the fact?

> >

> > Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan for

> 24th

> > May 1976.

> >

> > If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and with

> Daylight

> > savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I am

> getting 3

> > hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.

> >

> > When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.

> >

> > So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with proper

> data

> > first and the charts have been cast accurately.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

ca/>

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > [astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <%40>

] On Behalf Of

> > designhologram

> > Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> for a

> > chart with 3 zeros

> >

> > Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List

> >

> > There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay

of

> > marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus " , and marriage timing,

dated

> > 14 feb 2007

> > the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put to

> test

> > their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.

> > I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participated

> in

> > the discussion .

> >

> > this is a link to one of the messages.

> > http://groups. / group/astrologya

ndtimingevents/

> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118>

> message/14224

> >

> > the details for the chart are , although i would like to point that

> once

> > this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken

and

> > lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs to

> make

> > those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,

> > which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on

this

> > with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can be

of

> > help.

> > according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini

,

> > while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancer

> instead

> > of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr

softwares

> > as well,

> > parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std

time

> > zone.

> > while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time

> > zone as well.

> >

> > Details

> >

> > date: 24th may 1976 ,

> > place : khartoum sundan

> > time: 10:20

> >

> > timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for

the

> > year 1976 and also put DSt )

> >

> > here are the sites for reference for correcting:

> > http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.

html?n=118

> > <http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.

> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118 & syear=1970>

> html?n=118 & syear=1970>

> > & syear=1970

> > http://www.astro. <http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi>

com/cgi/ade.

cgi

> >

> > Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart for

> study

> > from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and

oter

> > characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.

> >

> > Thanks once again

> > Swati

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , " ashsam73 "

> > ashsam73@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > >

> > > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let

me

> > > attempt it.

> > >

> > > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial

> > > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7

bindus.

> > > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst

and

> it

> > > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.

> > >

> > > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so

its

> > > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not

LoD

> or

> > > LoE for 12th as B.

> > >

> > > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju

is

> not

> > > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is

important

as

> > > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with sperm

> count

> > > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the

idea.

> > > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in

deeper

> so

> > > what to do....

> > >

> > > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same

time

> > > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.

> > >

> > > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight,

Moon

is

> > > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.

> > >

> > > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from

2nd

> > > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time

its

> > > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose

> > Jupiter.

> > >

> > > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control

over

> 6th

> > > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4

bindus.

> > >

> > > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the

1st

> > > house results, i.e. quality.

> > >

> > > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and

we

> get

> > > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other

planets

> > > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets /

lagna

> > > are supporting Jupiter.

> > >

> > > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and

they

> are

> > >

> > > 1) Lagna

> > > 2) Sun

> > > 3) Moon

> > > 4) Mars

> > > 5) Mercury

> > > 6) Jupiter,

> > > 7) Venus

> > >

> > > So these all are supporting except Saturn.

> > >

> > > Hope that helps,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> ,

> " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,

> > > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and

techniques

> > > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt,

it

can

> > > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.

> > > > But my one query remained pending.

> > > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10

> > relationship

> > > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other

hand

> Ma

> > > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement

of

> > > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV

points

> ?

> > > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be

the

> role

> > > > of Ju in this context?

> > > > I think this time you will reply.

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my

opinion

and

> > it

> > > > > need not be right.

> > > > >

> > > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that

Ve when

its

> > > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must

have

atleast

> 3

> > > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can

clarify.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can

have

such

> > > > strong

> > > > > relationships.

> > > > >

> > > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do

not have

> > that

> > > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is

able to

> clarify

> > > > > with dates and times of such.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will

spoilt

> > > > maritial

> > > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is

having 7th

> > sight

> > > > of

> > > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its

spoilt

and

> > he

> > > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple

relationships

> > so

> > > > no

> > > > > doubt about that.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words

mars is in

> 7th

> > > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might

marry. That

> > will

> > > > > be due to his family status or intervention.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less

happiness

in

> > > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result

and

moslty

> in

> > > > 2nd

> > > > > or 3rd sector.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it

hasn't

> given

> > so

> > > > > far, why will it give now going in future?

> > > > >

> > > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will

learn.

> > > > >

> > > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power

and that

> will

> > > > also

> > > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over

and lets

> > watch,

> > > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.

> > > > >

> > > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will

keep us

> > > > posted

> > > > > on the outcome.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to

give

marriage

> > > > > too... so far its not been successful from what

Harjeet has

> > said...

> > > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to

end 2nd

or

> > 3rd

> > > > > sector... is what i feel...

> > > > >

> > > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it

does

not

> > > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> ,

> > " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,

> > > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given

as 27 Nov

> 1973.

> > > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-

> > > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.

> > > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination

> > > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in

5:9

> combination.

> > > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10

combination.

> > > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10

combination.

> > > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and

navamsa.

> > > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years

of age

i.e.

> > > > after

> > > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?

> > > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.

> > > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.

> > > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not

interested in

> > > > marriage.Moon

> > > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house

accommodates two

> > > > malefics

> > > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.

> > > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve,

Mo and

> Ra.This

> > > > may

> > > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.

> > > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by

Ra only in

> > > > navamsa.

> > > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.

> > > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and

12th lord)

> aspects

> > > > his

> > > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.

> > > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7

means enmity

> > towards

> > > > one

> > > > > > another.

> > > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong

points.Thus

> > > > reducing

> > > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic

influence on

> > 12th

> > > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very

important housed

> for

> > > > > > marriage purpose.

> > > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10

> > relationship. Ju

> > > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to

understand these

> > > > > > relationship.

> > > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship

understand to me in

> > > > detail ?

> > > > > > I think this relationship brings very important

for this

> chart.

> > > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I

found only

last

> > two

> > > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the

marriage.

> > > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12

points in WS.It

> means

> > > > > > native should have marriage.

> > > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard

worker.

> > > > Sometimes he

> > > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work.

He is

> > hypocritic

> > > > > > also.

> > > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But

according to

> me

> > > > it

> > > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of

its being

> 6th

> > > > lord.

> > > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences

between lagna

and

> > > > its

> > > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point

scale.

> > > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets

association and

> > > > conjunction

> > > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.

> > > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is

still unmarried

?

> > > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me

LoE but it

> did

> > > > not

> > > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.

> > > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It

did not

> happen.

> > > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma

is SD to

Me

> > LoE.

> > > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event

because it

aspects

> > > > house

> > > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he

should have

> shown

> > > > its

> > > > > > result.

> > > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members

?

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious

to know what

> > happens

> > > > in

> > > > > > end

> > > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.

> > > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning

experience for

> > all.

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , " harjeet

> > > > bakshi "

> > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/ Ashji,

> > > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one

zero in 5th house

> and

> > 2

> > > > in

> > > > > > 12th

> > > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson

that there would be

> > > > obstacle

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the

house where zereos

> are

> > > > > > placed.

> > > > > > > > so the native might lack something

related to 5th and

12th

> > > > house

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > might be associated with relationship

and pleasures.

> > > > > > > > despite these other factors already

discussed might not

> give

> > > > > > native a

> > > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he

marries(might be in Ju

> > > > antra).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had

given a chart of my

> > > > friend

> > > > > > who is

> > > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out

that he might have

> more

> > > > than

> > > > > > 2 or

> > > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a

case of

> non-marital

> > > > > > status.

> > > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in

Ju antra (which is

> his

> > > > 6th

> > > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage

in current antra

of

> > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but

unfortunately due to

> some

> > > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of

the girl the

> things

> > > > didnt

> > > > > > work

> > > > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of

ju antra and

might

> > > > deliver

> > > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his

data again if

> required

> > :

> > > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> > > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with

moon and rahu

aspected

> > by

> > > > > > saturn.

> > > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more

points.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> ,

> " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve

main during the period

> > from

> > > > 10

> > > > > > Aug

> > > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > > > > > > > > The native is currently passing

through Ve MD.Ve is

> karak

> > > > for

> > > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th

house matter. Me who is

> > 12th

> > > > > > lord of B

> > > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the

chart is in house

A.

> > > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong

with 5 bindus.

> > > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th

as B with highest

> power

> > > > with

> > > > > > 40

> > > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19

points for Ju in WS.

> > > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of

happiness also but this

house

> is

> > > > > > afflicted

> > > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and

receiving malefic sight of

Ma

> > > > (2nd

> > > > > > and 7th

> > > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord

Ju. Hence there is

some

> > > > > > affliction of

> > > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.

> > > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on

this house ?

> > > > > > > > > This is for learning

purpose.Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , " Sanjiva

> > > > > > Sharma "

> > > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You staed that:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > " In this chart also Ju

is in Libra and its aspected

by

> > Sa

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to

cancer. He must go for

> > > > regular

> > > > > > > > > checkups "

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following

points.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is

it necessary that Ju

> > > > should

> > > > > > be in

> > > > > > > > > Libra?

> > > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed

that Ju should be

afflicted

> > by

> > > > Sat

> > > > > > &

> > > > > > > > > Mars.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing

of the " cancer " to

come

> > out

> > > > as

> > > > > > > > > disease?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer

on which part of the

> body?

> > > > Is it

> > > > > > > > > related to

> > > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > trologyandtimingeve

> <trologyandtimingevents%40>

nts (AT) (DOT)

com

> > <trologyandti mingevents%

40. com>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > <trologyandtimingeve

> <trologyandtimingevents%40>

nts (AT) (DOT)

com

> > <trologyandti mingevents%

40. com> , " ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there

are 3 zeros, ju in Libra

> and

> > > > ve in

> > > > > > > > > krittika

> > > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting

this Venus and that too they

> are

> > > > in

> > > > > > 1:7 so

> > > > > > > > > > > having enmity.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > This person might be

" allergic " to authority.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is

in Libra and its aspected

> by

> > > > Sa

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone

to cancer. He must go for

> > > > regular

> > > > > > > > > checkups.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent

and might want to do his

own

> > > > > > business or

> > > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart

of non marital status.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > His relationships might

not last for long, even if

> he

> > > > > > marries. So

> > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of

marriage it might be very

> > > > delayed in

> > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40

years and that too for

> > > > companionship.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > However I feel this

person might not marry, he

don't

> > > > have

> > > > > > > > > blessings

> > > > > > > > > > > either.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand

timingevents% 40. com> , bala

> > > > sosale

> > > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the

blog.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart

where there is no delay by Ju or

Sa

> > > > but

> > > > > > has 3

> > > > > > > > > zeros?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate

delay in this chart? He is

> still

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > > married.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the

details.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > > > > > > > > 15N32

> > > > > > > > > > > > 32E32

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10

Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju

21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6

Cn

> 13

> > > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > Bala

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------

--------- --------- ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving

about the all-new Mail

> > beta.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions

of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this

message have been

removed]

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 6, 2008

3 Hours including DST would normally mean 2 Hours in normal time.

========

- Ash's Corner

Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:00 PM

RE: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros

Dear Blanie ji,

No, I am not talking of ayanamsa, but try to go to this link and enter Khartum, Sudan and u will see that it says to use 3 hrs east of GMT and Daylight Savings is in effect.

Do the same for Toronto for today as DST is in effect and it will give u 4 hrs west of GMT and with Daylight in effect (EDT 4:00 with DST)

That’s where my confusion is.

Here is the link... try it out....

On another note, Krushnaji has always taught me to first be satisfied with the data from my heart and for some reason, I am not sure of this so am having a hard timing moving on.

If someone can tell me that astro.com is wrong or if I am blatantly overlooking something that is so elementary or rudimentary and its really like “Duh....... “ , I am willing to understand and accept it.

..

August 6, 2008

GJ software gives about 5* Cancer for Lagna...

========

- Sateesh Batas

Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:04 PM

Re: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros

3 Hours including DST would normally mean 2 Hours in normal time.

========

- Ash's Corner

Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:00 PM

RE: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros

Dear Blanie ji,

No, I am not talking of ayanamsa, but try to go to this link and enter Khartum, Sudan and u will see that it says to use 3 hrs east of GMT and Daylight Savings is in effect.

Do the same for Toronto for today as DST is in effect and it will give u 4 hrs west of GMT and with Daylight in effect (EDT 4:00 with DST)

That’s where my confusion is.

Here is the link... try it out....

On another note, Krushnaji has always taught me to first be satisfied with the data from my heart and for some reason, I am not sure of this so am having a hard timing moving on.

If someone can tell me that astro.com is wrong or if I am blatantly overlooking something that is so elementary or rudimentary and its really like “Duh....... “ , I am willing to understand and accept it.

..

August 6, 2008

Dear

Swati,

Your

wrote

“>

The same way for Toronto, it is giving 4 hours west of GMT with DST.

i dont

have time to try the whole world. it is very simple.”

If

you do not have the time, nor the patience, then, I shall not work on this

chart any more. J

Cheers !!!

> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=118

On Behalf Of designhologram

Wednesday August 6, 2008

4:55 PM

To:

Subject:

Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3

zeros

Dear Ashji,

> But Astro.com/atlas is giving 3 hrs east and DST. So that is BGT -03:00

and

> DST set to yes taking lagna to 22 Gemini xx

i dont rely on

astro.com/atlas and i think its a recent site. But still i think it is giving

right information. it never says to add DSt when u have already done 3 hrs east

of GMT , DSt is written as connotation. at same cordinate on top it

mentions h2e+dt =3he for convience witten it is DST added . if i type in todays

date, u wil find EET written somewhere for khartoum.

> The same way for Toronto, it is giving 4 hours west of GMT with DST.

i dont have time to try the

whole world. it is very simple.

>

> I am still not clear. If what u say were true then astro.com/atlas should

> show 2 hrs east and DST.

what i say is true and

that is what ur favorite site mentions.

> Still that 1 hour difference I am not clear on.

> What you are saying is to take 2 hours EET and DST and what I am saying

and

> so is that document to take 3 hours east and DST.

May be

KAS software doesnt allow to make charts before 2000 for khartoum. As EET is a

recent system. or one can apply logic and put manually the corrections.

> If I enter EET-02:00 with DST = YES I get 5 Cn 47

i put these settings

> If I enter BGT -03:00 with DST = Yes I get 22 Ge 16.

u put these settings

> The astro.com/atlas tells me to take 3 hrs with DST and u are taking 2 hours

> with DST.

2+1=3

> Cheers !!!

Swazz

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> On Behalf Of

> designhologram

> Wednesday August 6, 2008 4:14 PM

>

> Re: Question on delay of Marriage for

a

> chart with 3 zeros

>

> Dear Ashji,

> i wil just give a last try to explain you ,

> essentially what ur doing is 1DST + 3 CAST = (-4 east of GMT)

>

> essentially what needs to be DONE is 1DST +2 CAT ( central african

> time) = 3 east of GMT or 3 CAST (Central African Saving Time )

>

> EET time zone is being used now introduced in 2000 i guess , which is

> different from CAT time zone system

> So we get 5 degrees cancer in KAS or 4 degrees 53 min in cancer with

> lahiri Ayanamsa.

>

> hope this clears the air. We are all treading on same path to get

> consumed by light of knowledge.

> Thanks

> Swati

>

> <%40> , " Ash's

Corner@ "

> kas@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sunil ji and Blaine ji,

> >

> > This is what is given in the

> >

> > Sunday, April 25, 1976 at 1:00:00 AM1 hour+3 hoursCAST

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> <%40>

> > [

> <%40> ] On Behalf Of

Sunil

> Sharma

> > Wednesday August 6, 2008 11:42 AM

> >

> <%40>

> > Re: Re: Question on delay of

> Marriage

> > for a chart with 3 zeros

> >

> > HI Blaine,

> > Sorry, perhaps the right expression should be 'offset'? not time

zone.

> I

> > agree Time Zone should be -2 and -3 hours for astrological purposes.

> > Sunil

> >

> > --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Blaine Watson blainepw@ wrote:

> > Blaine Watson blainepw@

> > Re: Re: Question on delay of

> Marriage

> > for a chart with 3 zeros

> >

> <%40>

> > Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 8:26 AM

> > dear sunil

> >

> > as per all atlases i have access to it should be -2 time zone with

dst

> so

> > eedt and add -3 to get ut

> >

> > On 6-Aug-08, at 8:15 AM, Sunil Sharma wrote:

> >

> > Hi Ash,

> > Time Zone for Khartoum, Sudan is UTC +2 hours. For 1976, DST started

> on

> > Sunday the 25th April 1976 at 00:00:00 hours, on which day the offset

> > changed from UTC +2 hours to UTC +3 hours. It ended on Thursday the

14

> > October 1976 at 00:00:00 hours when the clock reverted to UTC +2

hours

> from

> > UTC +3hours. You can check the link below:

> > http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/clockchange.

> >

> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=118 & year=1976>

> & year=1976>

> > html?n=118 & year=1976

> > Hope I have been of help.

> > Regards

> > Sunil

> >

> > --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas@ wrote:

> > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas@

> > RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of

> Marriage

> > for a chart with 3 zeros

> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:34 AM

> > Dear Swati,

> >

> > You still don?t get it. I don?t have any contention, I just want to

> get

> > correct facts.

> >

> > 1) Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memory

> serves me

> > right.

> > 2) You are getting 5 Cancer

> > 3) From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrs

> east

> > and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX

> > 4) JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time

> >

> > So what is the real fact, that all I want to know.

> >

> > I have tired to show u how If I use astro.com/atlas is giving results

> I am

> > getting Gemini lagna.

> >

> > Can someone please check this and let us know what the real setting

is

> for

> > Khartum, Sudan on 24th May 1976?

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan

> > dtimingevents] On Behalf Of designhologram

> > Tuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PM

> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> for a

> > chart with 3 zeros

> >

> > Dear Ashji,

> > i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get

to

> > proper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were not

> > coming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions about

> it.

> > So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail in

> the

> > forum.

> >

> > Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KAS

> > without any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software and

> rely

> > more on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and

see

> > some success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , since

> i

> > didnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just started

> > studying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, but

> > still i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.

> > So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, will

> put

> > DST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted to

> > inform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,

> > and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.

> >

> > And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in

believing

> > that 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.

> >

> > Thanks Swati

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

vents@

> s.com,

> > " Ash's Corner@ "

> > kas@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Swati,

> > >

> > > Please do not say wrong things .

> > >

> > > I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in

this

> > case.

> > >

> > > If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to

YES as

> > given

> > > in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.

> > >

> > > So what is the fact?

> > >

> > > Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan

for

> > 24th

> > > May 1976.

> > >

> > > If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and

with

> > Daylight

> > > savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I

am

> > getting 3

> > > hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.

> > >

> > > When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.

> > >

> > > So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with

proper

> > data

> > > first and the charts have been cast accurately.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

ca/>

> > http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

vents@

> s.com

> > > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > <%40> ] On Behalf

Of

> > > designhologram

> > > Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

vents@

> s.com

> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of

> Marriage

> > for a

> > > chart with 3 zeros

> > >

> > > Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List

> > >

> > > There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for "

delay of

> > > marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus " , and marriage

timing, dated

> > > 14 feb 2007

> > > the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put

to

> > test

> > > their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around

january.

> > > I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had

participated

> > in

> > > the discussion .

> > >

> > > this is a link to one of the messages.

> > > http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/

> > </message/14224>

> > message/14224

> > >

> > > the details for the chart are , although i would like to point

that

> > once

> > > this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be

taken

> and

> > > lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs

to

> > make

> > > those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical

problem,

> > > which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on

> this

> > > with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can

be

> of

> > > help.

> > > according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees

gemini

> ,

> > > while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancer

> > instead

> > > of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr

> softwares

> > > as well,

> > > parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to

std

> time

> > > zone.

> > > while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std

time

> > > zone as well.

> > >

> > > Details

> > >

> > > date: 24th may 1976 ,

> > > place : khartoum sundan

> > > time: 10:20

> > >

> > > timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also

for

> the

> > > year 1976 and also put DSt )

> > >

> > > here are the sites for reference for correcting:

> > > http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.

> > <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118>

> html?n=118

> > > <http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.

> > <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118

> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118 & syear=1970>

> & syear=1970>

> > html?n=118 & syear=1970>

> > > & syear=1970

> > > http://www.astro. <http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi>

com/cgi/ade.

> cgi

> > >

> > > Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart

for

> > study

> > > from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse.

and

> oter

> > > characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.

> > >

> > > Thanks once again

> > > Swati

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

vents@

> s.com

> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > ashsam73@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > >

> > > > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case,

let me

> > > > attempt it.

> > > >

> > > > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils

maritial

> > > > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has

7

> bindus.

> > > > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is

worst and

> > it

> > > > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.

> > > >

> > > > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th

house so

> its

> > > > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is

not LoD

> > or

> > > > LoE for 12th as B.

> > > >

> > > > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also

Ju is

> > not

> > > > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is

important

> as

> > > > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with

sperm

> > count

> > > > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get

the

> idea.

> > > > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in

deeper

> > so

> > > > what to do....

> > > >

> > > > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same

> time

> > > > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.

> > > >

> > > > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy

sight, Moon

> is

> > > > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.

> > > >

> > > > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th

from 2nd

> > > > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same

time its

> > > > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will

oppose

> > > Jupiter.

> > > >

> > > > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its

control over

> > 6th

> > > > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4

> bindus.

> > > >

> > > > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing

the

> 1st

> > > > house results, i.e. quality.

> > > >

> > > > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered

and we

> > get

> > > > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and

other

> planets

> > > > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets

/

> lagna

> > > > are supporting Jupiter.

> > > >

> > > > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are

and they

> > are

> > > >

> > > > 1) Lagna

> > > > 2) Sun

> > > > 3) Moon

> > > > 4) Mars

> > > > 5) Mercury

> > > > 6) Jupiter,

> > > > 7) Venus

> > > >

> > > > So these all are supporting except Saturn.

> > > >

> > > > Hope that helps,

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40> vents@

> s.com

> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

> > " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,

> > > > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles

and

> techniques

> > > > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No

doubt, it

> can

> > > > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very

correct.

> > > > > But my one query remained pending.

> > > > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in

4:10

> > > relationship

> > > > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the

other hand

> > Ma

> > > > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of

placement of

> > > > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their

BAV

> points

> > ?

> > > > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What

would be the

> > role

> > > > > of Ju in this context?

> > > > > I think this time you will reply.

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

vents@

> s.com

> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave

my opinion

> and

> > > it

> > > > > > need not be right.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given

that Ve when

> its

> > > > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person

must have

> atleast

> > 3

> > > > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet

can clarify.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one

can have

> such

> > > > > strong

> > > > > > relationships.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till

I do not have

> > > that

> > > > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet

is able to

> > clarify

> > > > > > with dates and times of such.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it

will spoilt

> > > > > maritial

> > > > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa

is having 7th

> > > sight

> > > > > of

> > > > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely

its spoilt

> and

> > > he

> > > > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or

multiple

> relationships

> > > so

> > > > > no

> > > > > > doubt about that.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other

words mars is in

> > 7th

> > > > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he

might marry. That

> > > will

> > > > > > be due to his family status or intervention.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is

less happiness

> in

> > > > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give

result and

> moslty

> > in

> > > > > 2nd

> > > > > > or 3rd sector.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if

it hasn't

> > given

> > > so

> > > > > > far, why will it give now going in future?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will

learn.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst

power and that

> > will

> > > > > also

> > > > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get

over and lets

> > > watch,

> > > > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet

will keep us

> > > > > posted

> > > > > > on the outcome.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying

to give

> marriage

> > > > > > too... so far its not been successful from what

Harjeet has

> > > said...

> > > > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get

delayed to end 2nd

> or

> > > 3rd

> > > > > > sector... is what i feel...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or

wrong... it does

> not

> > > > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

vents@

> s.com

> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

> > > " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,

> > > > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is

given as 27 Nov

> > 1973.

> > > > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-

> > > > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.

> > > > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9

combination

> > > > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also

in 5:9

> > combination.

> > > > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10

combination.

> > > > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in

4:10 combination.

> > > > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and

navamsa.

> > > > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The native should marry after completing 21

years of age

> i.e.

> > > > > after

> > > > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?

> > > > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.

> > > > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.

> > > > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not

interested in

> > > > > marriage.Moon

> > > > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house

accommodates two

> > > > > malefics

> > > > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.

> > > > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects

of Ve, Mo and

> > Ra.This

> > > > > may

> > > > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.

> > > > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi

and by Ra only in

> > > > > navamsa.

> > > > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.

> > > > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord

and 12th lord)

> > aspects

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.

> > > > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7

means enmity

> > > towards

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > another.

> > > > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with

strong points.Thus

> > > > > reducing

> > > > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his

malefic influence on

> > > 12th

> > > > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very

important housed

> > for

> > > > > > > marriage purpose.

> > > > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in

4:10

> > > relationship. Ju

> > > > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to

understand these

> > > > > > > relationship.

> > > > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship

understand to me in

> > > > > detail ?

> > > > > > > I think this relationship brings very

important for this

> > chart.

> > > > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and

I found only

> last

> > > two

> > > > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the

marriage.

> > > > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12

points in WS.It

> > means

> > > > > > > native should have marriage.

> > > > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and

hard worker.

> > > > > Sometimes he

> > > > > > > remains without food due to more volume of

work. He is

> > > hypocritic

> > > > > > > also.

> > > > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju

antara.But according to

> > me

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju

because of its being

> > 6th

> > > > > lord.

> > > > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences

between lagna

> and

> > > > > its

> > > > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100

point scale.

> > > > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets

association and

> > > > > conjunction

> > > > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.

> > > > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is

still unmarried

> ?

> > > > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD

to Me LoE but it

> > did

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.

> > > > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su

main.It did not

> > happen.

> > > > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara

also.Ma is SD to

> Me

> > > LoE.

> > > > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event

because it

> aspects

> > > > > house

> > > > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B,

he should have

> > shown

> > > > > its

> > > > > > > result.

> > > > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow

members ?

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

vents@

> s.com

> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be

curious to know what

> > > happens

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > end

> > > > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your

friend.

> > > > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good

learning experience for

> > > all.

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

vents@

> s.com

> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" harjeet

> > > > > bakshi "

> > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/ Ashji,

> > > > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had

one zero in 5th house

> > and

> > > 2

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > 12th

> > > > > > > > > house. i think i read in the

lesson that there would be

> > > > > obstacle

> > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > wont get the desired results for

the house where zereos

> > are

> > > > > > > placed.

> > > > > > > > > so the native might lack something

related to 5th and

> 12th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > might be associated with

relationship and pleasures.

> > > > > > > > > despite these other factors

already discussed might not

> > give

> > > > > > > native a

> > > > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he

marries(might be in Ju

> > > > > antra).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i

had given a chart of my

> > > > > friend

> > > > > > > who is

> > > > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed

out that he might have

> > more

> > > > > than

> > > > > > > 2 or

> > > > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out

is a case of

> > non-marital

> > > > > > > status.

> > > > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur

in Ju antra (which is

> > his

> > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to

marriage in current antra

> of

> > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but

unfortunately due to

> > some

> > > > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family

of the girl the

> > things

> > > > > didnt

> > > > > > > work

> > > > > > > > > out. but still its the first

sector of ju antra and

> might

> > > > > deliver

> > > > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is

his data again if

> > required

> > > :

> > > > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> > > > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus

with moon and rahu

> aspected

> > > by

> > > > > > > saturn.

> > > > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with

more points.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

vents@

> s.com

> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

> > " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > > > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in

Ve main during the period

> > > from

> > > > > 10

> > > > > > > Aug

> > > > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > > > > > > > > > The native is currently

passing through Ve MD.Ve is

> > karak

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for

4th house matter. Me who is

> > > 12th

> > > > > > > lord of B

> > > > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord

of the chart is in house

> A.

> > > > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are

strong with 5 bindus.

> > > > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for

4th as B with highest

> > power

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > 40

> > > > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19

points for Ju in WS.

> > > > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of

happiness also but this

> house

> > is

> > > > > > > afflicted

> > > > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and

receiving malefic sight of

> Ma

> > > > > (2nd

> > > > > > > and 7th

> > > > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th

lord Ju. Hence there is

> some

> > > > > > > affliction of

> > > > > > > > > > his happiness during this

period.

> > > > > > > > > > Can you please shed some

light on this house ?

> > > > > > > > > > This is for learning

purpose.Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40> vents@

> s.com

> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" Sanjiva

> > > > > > > Sharma "

> > > > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@ >

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You staed that:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > " In this chart also

Ju is in Libra and its aspected

> by

> > > Sa

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone

to cancer. He must go for

> > > > > regular

> > > > > > > > > > checkups "

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Please clarify the

following points.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer

-prone, Is it necessary that Ju

> > > > > should

> > > > > > > be in

> > > > > > > > > > Libra?

> > > > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is

staed that Ju should be

> afflicted

> > > by

> > > > > Sat

> > > > > > > &

> > > > > > > > > > Mars.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the

timing of the " cancer " to

> come

> > > out

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > disease?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the

cancer on which part of the

> > body?

> > > > > Is it

> > > > > > > > > > related to

> > > > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is

situated?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

trologyandtimingeve

> > <trologyandtimingevents%40>

nts (AT) (DOT)

> com

> > > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > <trologyandtimingeve

> > <trologyandtimingevents%40>

nts (AT) (DOT)

> com

> > > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes

there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra

> > and

> > > > > ve in

> > > > > > > > > > krittika

> > > > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is

aspecting this Venus and that too they

> > are

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > 1:7 so

> > > > > > > > > > > > having enmity.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > This person might

be " allergic " to authority.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > In this chart also

Ju is in Libra and its aspected

> > by

> > > > > Sa

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also

prone to cancer. He must go for

> > > > > regular

> > > > > > > > > > checkups.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > He is quite

intelligent and might want to do his

> own

> > > > > > > business or

> > > > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > This might fit in

chart of non marital status.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > His relationships

might not last for long, even if

> > he

> > > > > > > marries. So

> > > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > > > there is any chance

of marriage it might be very

> > > > > delayed in

> > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or

40 years and that too for

> > > > > companionship.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > However I feel this

person might not marry, he

> don't

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > blessings

> > > > > > > > > > > > either.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.

ca

> <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40> vents@

> s.com

> > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

bala

> > > > > sosale

> > > > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the

blog.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart

where there is no delay by Ju or

> Sa

> > > > > but

> > > > > > > has 3

> > > > > > > > > > zeros?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > How do we

calculate delay in this chart? He is

> > still

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > married.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the

details.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum,

Sudan

> > > > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 15N32

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 32E32

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su

10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta

49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6

> Cn

> > 13

> > > > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18

Ar 59

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bala

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ash jithat woud be the right lagna, geminii, for the western horoscope which they are using. if i use the sidereal horoscope it comes to be kark so you are right. i think they are saying in astrodienst 3 hours east after using dst or 2 hours east plus dst. but i am just guessing here. every other sidereal atlas i have access to says 2 hours east plus dst and label it as eedtblaineOn 6-Aug-08, at 2:00 PM, Ash's Corner wrote:Dear Blanie ji, No, I am not talking of ayanamsa, but try to go to this link and enterKhartum, Sudan and u will see that it says to use 3 hrs east of GMT and Daylight Savings is in effect. Do the same for Toronto for today as DST is in effect and it will give u 4 hrs west of GMT and with Daylight in effect (EDT 4:00 with DST) That’s where my confusion is. Here is the link... try it out.... www.astro.com/atlas On another note, Krushnaji has always taught me to first be satisfied with the data from my heart and for some reason, I am not sure of this so am having a hard timing moving on. If someone can tell me that astro.com is wrong or if I am blatantly overlooking something that is so elementary or rudimentary and its really like “Duh....... “ , I am willing to understand and accept it. Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Blaine WatsonSent: Wednesday August 6, 2008 4:54 PMTo: Subject: Re: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros all the atlases i have access to take 2 hours east and dst so karka lagna. funny the confusion eh? does the astro.com atlas use the same ayanamsha as kas? On 6-Aug-08, at 1:33 PM, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote: Dear Swati, But Astro.com/atlas is giving 3 hrs east and DST. So that is BGT -03:00 and DST set to yes taking lagna to 22 Gemini xx The same way for Toronto, it is giving 4 hours west of GMT with DST. I am still not clear. If what u say were true then astro.com/atlas should show 2 hrs east and DST. Still that 1 hour difference I am not clear on. What you are saying is to take 2 hours EET and DST and what I am saying and so is that document to take 3 hours east and DST. If I enter EET -02:00 with DST = YES I get 5 Cn 47 If I enter BGT -03:00 with DST = Yes I get 22 Ge 16. The astro.com/atlas tells me to take 3 hrs with DST and u are taking 2 hours with DST. Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of designhologramSent: Wednesday August 6, 2008 4:14 PMTo: Subject: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros Dear Ashji,i wil just give a last try to explain you ,essentially what ur doing is 1DST + 3 CAST = (-4 east of GMT)essentially what needs to be DONE is 1DST +2 CAT ( central africantime) = 3 east of GMT or 3 CAST (Central African Saving Time )EET time zone is being used now introduced in 2000 i guess , which isdifferent from CAT time zone systemSo we get 5 degrees cancer in KAS or 4 degrees 53 min in cancer withlahiri Ayanamsa.hope this clears the air. We are all treading on same path to getconsumed by light of knowledge.ThanksSwati--- In , "Ash's Corner"<kas wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji and Blaine ji,>> This is what is given in the>>> Sunday, April 25, 1976 at 1:00:00 AM1 hour+3 hoursCAST>> Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca>> > On Behalf Of SunilSharma> Wednesday August 6, 2008 11:42 AM> To: > Re: Re: Question on delay ofMarriage> for a chart with 3 zeros>>> HI Blaine,> Sorry, perhaps the right expression should be 'offset'? not time zone.I> agree Time Zone should be -2 and -3 hours for astrological purposes.> Sunil>> --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Blaine Watson blainepw wrote:> Blaine Watson blainepw Re: Re: Question on delay ofMarriage> for a chart with 3 zeros> To: > Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 8:26 AM> dear sunil>> as per all atlases i have access to it should be -2 time zone with dstso> eedt and add -3 to get ut>>> On 6-Aug-08, at 8:15 AM, Sunil Sharma wrote:>>>>>> Hi Ash,> Time Zone for Khartoum, Sudan is UTC +2 hours. For 1976, DST startedon> Sunday the 25th April 1976 at 00:00:00 hours, on which day the offset> changed from UTC +2 hours to UTC +3 hours. It ended on Thursday the 14> October 1976 at 00:00:00 hours when the clock reverted to UTC +2 hoursfrom> UTC +3hours. You can check the link below:> http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/clockchange.><http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=118 & year=1976>> html?n=118 & year=1976> Hope I have been of help.> Regards> Sunil>>> --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas wrote:> Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay ofMarriage> for a chart with 3 zeros> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:34 AM> Dear Swati,>> You still don?t get it. I don?t have any contention, I just want toget> correct facts.>> 1) Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memoryserves me> right.> 2) You are getting 5 Cancer> 3) From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrseast> and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX> 4) JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time>> So what is the real fact, that all I want to know.>> I have tired to show u how If I use astro.com/atlas is giving resultsI am> getting Gemini lagna.>> Can someone please check this and let us know what the real setting isfor> Khartum, Sudan on 24th May 1976?>>> Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca>> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan> dtimingevents] On Behalf Of designhologram> Tuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PM> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriagefor a> chart with 3 zeros>> Dear Ashji,> i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get to> proper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were not> coming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions aboutit.> So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail inthe> forum.>> Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KAS> without any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software andrely> more on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and see> some success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , sincei> didnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just started> studying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, but> still i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.> So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, willput> DST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted to> inform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,> and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.>> And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believing> that 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.>> Thanks Swati>> astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents ,> "Ash's Corner@"> kas@ wrote:> >> > Dear Swati,> >> > Please do not say wrong things .> >> > I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in this> case.> >> > If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES as> given> > in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.> >> > So what is the fact?> >> > Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan for> 24th> > May 1976.> >> >> > If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and with> Daylight> > savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I am> getting 3> > hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.> >> > When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.> >> > So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with proper> data> > first and the charts have been cast accurately.> >> >> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> >> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <%40> ] On Behalf Of> > designhologram> > Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay ofMarriage> for a> > chart with 3 zeros> >> > Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List> >> > There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay of> > marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus", and marriage timing, dated> > 14 feb 2007> > the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put to> test> > their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.> > I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participated> in> > the discussion .> >> > this is a link to one of the messages.> > http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/> </message/14224>> message/14224> >> > the details for the chart are , although i would like to point that> once> > this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be takenand> > lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs to> make> > those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,> > which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion onthis> > with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can beof> > help.> > according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini,> > while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancer> instead> > of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othrsoftwares> > as well,> > parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to stdtime> > zone.> > while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time> > zone as well.> >> > Details> >> > date: 24th may 1976 ,> > place : khartoum sundan> > time: 10:20> >> > timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also forthe> > year 1976 and also put DSt )> >> > here are the sites for reference for correcting:> > http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118> html?n=118>'>http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118> html?n=118> > <http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118 & syear=1970>> html?n=118 & syear=1970>> > & syear=1970> > http://www.astro. <http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi> com/cgi/ade.cgi> >> > Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart for> study> > from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. andoter> > characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.> >> > Thanks once again> > Swati> >> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > ashsam73@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ramesh,> > >> > > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me> > > attempt it.> > >> > > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial> > > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7bindus.> > > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst and> it> > > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.> > >> > > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house soits> > > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not LoD> or> > > LoE for 12th as B.> > >> > > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju is> not> > > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is importantas> > > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with sperm> count> > > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get theidea.> > > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in deeper> so> > > what to do....> > >> > > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the sametime> > > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.> > >> > > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moonis> > > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.> > >> > > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd> > > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its> > > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose> > Jupiter.> > >> > > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control over> 6th> > > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4bindus.> > >> > > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the1st> > > house results, i.e. quality.> > >> > > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and we> get> > > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and otherplanets> > > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets /lagna> > > are supporting Jupiter.> > >> > > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and they> are> > >> > > 1) Lagna> > > 2) Sun> > > 3) Moon> > > 4) Mars> > > 5) Mercury> > > 6) Jupiter,> > > 7) Venus> > >> > > So these all are supporting except Saturn.> > >> > > Hope that helps,> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > >> > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,> "aarceemastro2002"> > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,> > > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles andtechniques> > > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, itcan> > > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.> > > > But my one query remained pending.> > > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10> > relationship> > > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other hand> Ma> > > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of> > > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAVpoints> ?> > > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be the> role> > > > of Ju in this context?> > > > I think this time you will reply.> > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinionand> > it> > > > > need not be right.> > > > >> > > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve whenits> > > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must haveatleast> 3> > > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.> > > > >> > > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can havesuch> > > > strong> > > > > relationships.> > > > >> > > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not have> > that> > > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able to> clarify> > > > > with dates and times of such.> > > > >> > > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt> > > > maritial> > > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7th> > sight> > > > of> > > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoiltand> > he> > > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiplerelationships> > so> > > > no> > > > > doubt about that.> > > > >> > > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in> 7th> > > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry. That> > will> > > > > be due to his family status or intervention.> > > > >> > > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happinessin> > > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result andmoslty> in> > > > 2nd> > > > > or 3rd sector.> > > > >> > > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn't> given> > so> > > > > far, why will it give now going in future?> > > > >> > > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.> > > > >> > > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and that> will> > > > also> > > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and lets> > watch,> > > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.> > > > >> > > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us> > > > posted> > > > > on the outcome.> > > > >> > > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to givemarriage> > > > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has> > said...> > > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2ndor> > 3rd> > > > > sector... is what i feel...> > > > >> > > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it doesnot> > > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....> > > > >> > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > > > >> > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,> > "aarceemastro2002"> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,> > > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov> 1973.> > > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-> > > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.> > > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination> > > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9> combination.> > > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.> > > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.> > > > > >> > > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of agei.e.> > > > after> > > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?> > > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.> > > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.> > > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in> > > > marriage.Moon> > > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two> > > > malefics> > > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.> > > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo and> Ra.This> > > > may> > > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.> > > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in> > > > navamsa.> > > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.> > > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord)> aspects> > > > his> > > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.> > > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity> > towards> > > > one> > > > > > another.> > > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus> > > > reducing> > > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on> > 12th> > > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housed> for> > > > > > marriage purpose.> > > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10> > relationship. Ju> > > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these> > > > > > relationship.> > > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in> > > > detail ?> > > > > > I think this relationship brings very important for this> chart.> > > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found onlylast> > two> > > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.> > > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.It> means> > > > > > native should have marriage.> > > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.> > > > Sometimes he> > > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is> > hypocritic> > > > > > also.> > > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according to> me> > > > it> > > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being> 6th> > > > lord.> > > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagnaand> > > > its> > > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.> > > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and> > > > conjunction> > > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.> > > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried?> > > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but it> did> > > > not> > > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.> > > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did not> happen.> > > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD toMe> > LoE.> > > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because itaspects> > > > house> > > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should have> shown> > > > its> > > > > > result.> > > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?> > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know what> > happens> > > > in> > > > > > end> > > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.> > > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for> > all.> > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "harjeet> > > > bakshi"> > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/ Ashji,> > > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th house> and> > 2> > > > in> > > > > > 12th> > > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be> > > > obstacle> > > > > > or> > > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereos> are> > > > > > placed.> > > > > > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and12th> > > > house> > > > > > which> > > > > > > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.> > > > > > > > despite these other factors already discussed might not> give> > > > > > native a> > > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju> > > > antra).> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my> > > > friend> > > > > > who is> > > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might have> more> > > > than> > > > > > 2 or> > > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case of> non-marital> > > > > > status.> > > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which is> his> > > > 6th> > > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antraof> > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due to> some> > > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl the> things> > > > didnt> > > > > > work> > > > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra andmight> > > > deliver> > > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again if> required> > :> > > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.> > > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahuaspected> > by> > > > > > saturn.> > > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,> "aarceemastro2002"> > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,> > > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period> > from> > > > 10> > > > > > Aug> > > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?> > > > > > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve is> karak> > > > for> > > > > > 4th> > > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is> > 12th> > > > > > lord of B> > > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in houseA.> > > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.> > > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highest> power> > > > with> > > > > > 40> > > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.> > > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but thishouse> is> > > > > > afflicted> > > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight ofMa> > > > (2nd> > > > > > and 7th> > > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there issome> > > > > > affliction of> > > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.> > > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?> > > > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "Sanjiva> > > > > > Sharma"> > > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > You staed that:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > "In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspectedby> > Sa> > > > and> > > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > > regular> > > > > > > > > checkups"> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following points.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju> > > > should> > > > > > be in> > > > > > > > > Libra?> > > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should beafflicted> > by> > > > Sat> > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > Mars.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the "cancer " tocome> > out> > > > as> > > > > > > > > disease?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the> body?> > > > Is it> > > > > > > > > related to> > > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > trologyandtimingeve> <trologyandtimingevents%40> nts > > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com>> > > > > > > > > >> > > > <trologyandtimingeve> <trologyandtimingevents%40> nts > > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra> and> > > > ve in> > > > > > > > > krittika> > > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they> are> > > > in> > > > > > 1:7 so> > > > > > > > > > > having enmity.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This person might be "allergic" to authority.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected> by> > > > Sa> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > > regular> > > > > > > > > checkups.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do hisown> > > > > > business or> > > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even if> he> > > > > > marries. So> > > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very> > > > delayed in> > > > > > life> > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for> > > > companionship.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, hedon't> > > > have> > > > > > > > > blessings> > > > > > > > > > > either.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca<http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , bala> > > > sosale> > > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju orSa> > > > but> > > > > > has 3> > > > > > > > > zeros?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is> still> > > > not> > > > > > > > > married.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Male> > > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976> > > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.> > > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan> > > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00> > > > > > > > > > > > 15N32> > > > > > > > > > > > 32E32> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma> > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6Cn> 13> > > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > > > Bala> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail> > beta.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been> > removed]> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have beenremoved]> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

August 6, 2008

Dear

Blanie ji,

Thanks

for your effort and your patience in helping me understand this “enigma” for

me. I guess some things come easy for

some people and for some it takes time and I am right now riding the “slow

coach “.

Patience

really is a virtue J

Cheers !!!

On Behalf Of Blaine Watson

Wednesday August 6, 2008

5:17 PM

Re:

Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3

zeros

ash ji

that woud be the right lagna,

geminii, for the western horoscope which they are using. if i use the

sidereal horoscope it comes to be kark so you are right. i think they are

saying in astrodienst 3 hours east after using dst or 2 hours east plus dst.

but i am just guessing here. every other sidereal atlas i have access to says 2

hours east plus dst and label it as eedt

blaine

On 6-Aug-08, at 2:00 PM,

Ash's Corner wrote:

Dear Blanie ji,

No, I am not talking of ayanamsa, but try to go to this link and enterKhartum, Sudan and u will see that it says to use 3 hrs

east of GMT and Daylight Savings is in effect.

Do the same for Toronto for today as DST is in effect and it will

give u 4 hrs west of GMT and with Daylight in effect (EDT 4:00 with DST)

That’s where my confusion is.

Here is the link... try it out....

On another note, Krushnaji has always taught me to first be satisfied

with the data from my heart and for some reason, I am not sure of this so am

having a hard timing moving on.

If someone can tell me that astro.com is wrong or if I am blatantly

overlooking something that is so elementary or rudimentary and its really like

“Duh....... “ , I am

willing to understand and accept it.

Cheers !!!

On

Behalf Of Blaine

Watson

Wednesday August 6, 2008 4:54 PM

Re: Re:

Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros

all the atlases i have access to take 2 hours east and dst so

karka lagna. funny the confusion eh? does the astro.com atlas use the same

ayanamsha as kas?

On 6-Aug-08, at 1:33 PM, Ash's Corner wrote:

Dear Swati,

But Astro.com/atlas is giving 3 hrs east and DST. So that is BGT -03:00 and DST set to

yes taking lagna to 22 Gemini xx

The same way for Toronto, it is giving 4 hours west of GMT with DST.

I am still not clear. If

what u say were true then astro.com/atlas should show 2 hrs east and DST.

Still that 1 hour difference I am not clear on.

What you are saying is to take 2 hours EET and DST and what I am

saying and so is that document to take 3 hours east and DST.

If I enter EET -02:00 with DST = YES I get 5 Cn 47

If I enter BGT -03:00 with DST = Yes I get 22 Ge 16.

The astro.com/atlas tells me to take 3 hrs with DST and u are

taking 2 hours with DST.

Cheers !!!

<http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=118 & year=1976>

On

Behalf Of designhologram

Wednesday August 6, 2008 4:14 PM

Re:

Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros

Dear Ashji,

i wil just give a last try to explain you ,

essentially what ur doing is 1DST + 3 CAST = (-4 east of GMT)

essentially what needs to be DONE is 1DST +2 CAT ( central african

time) = 3 east of GMT or 3 CAST (Central African Saving Time )

EET time zone is being used now introduced in 2000 i guess , which is

different from CAT time zone system

So we get 5 degrees cancer in KAS or 4 degrees 53 min in cancer with

lahiri Ayanamsa.

hope this clears the air. We are all treading on same path to get

consumed by light of knowledge.

Thanks

Swati

,

" Ash's Corner "

<kas wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil ji and Blaine ji,

>

> This is what is given in the

>

> Sunday, April 25, 1976 at 1:00:00 AM1 hour+3 hoursCAST

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

On Behalf Of Sunil

Sharma

> Wednesday August 6, 2008 11:42 AM

>

> Re: Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> for a chart with 3 zeros

>

> HI Blaine,

> Sorry, perhaps the right expression should be 'offset'? not time zone.

I

> agree Time Zone should be -2 and -3 hours for astrological purposes.

> Sunil

>

> --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Blaine Watson blainepw wrote:

> Blaine Watson blainepw

> Re: Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> for a chart with 3 zeros

>

> Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 8:26 AM

> dear sunil

>

> as per all atlases i have access to it should be -2 time zone with dst

so

> eedt and add -3 to get ut

>

> On 6-Aug-08, at 8:15 AM, Sunil Sharma wrote:

>

> Hi Ash,

> Time Zone for Khartoum, Sudan is UTC +2 hours. For 1976, DST started

on

> Sunday the 25th April 1976 at 00:00:00 hours, on which day the offset

> changed from UTC +2 hours to UTC +3 hours. It ended on Thursday the 14

> October 1976 at 00:00:00 hours when the clock reverted to UTC +2 hours

from

> UTC +3hours. You can check the link below:

> http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/clockchange.

>

> html?n=118 & year=1976

> Hope I have been of help.

> Regards

> Sunil

>

> --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas wrote:

> Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas

> RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> for a chart with 3 zeros

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:34 AM

> Dear Swati,

>

> You still don?t get it. I don?t have any contention, I just want to

get

> correct facts.

>

> 1) Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memory

serves me

> right.

> 2) You are getting 5 Cancer

> 3) From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrs

east

> and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX

> 4) JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time

>

> So what is the real fact, that all I want to know.

>

> I have tired to show u how If I use astro.com/atlas is giving results

I am

> getting Gemini lagna.

>

> Can someone please check this and let us know what the real setting is

for

> Khartum, Sudan on 24th May 1976?

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan

> dtimingevents] On Behalf Of designhologram

> Tuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PM

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriage

for a

> chart with 3 zeros

>

> Dear Ashji,

> i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get to

> proper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were not

> coming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions about

it.

> So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail in

the

> forum.

>

> Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KAS

> without any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software and

rely

> more on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and see

> some success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , since

i

> didnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just started

> studying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, but

> still i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.

> So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, will

put

> DST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted to

> inform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,

> and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.

>

> And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believing

> that 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.

>

> Thanks Swati

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com,

> " Ash's Corner@ "

> kas@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Swati,

> >

> > Please do not say wrong things .

> >

> > I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in this

> case.

> >

> > If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES as

> given

> > in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.

> >

> > So what is the fact?

> >

> > Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan for

> 24th

> > May 1976.

> >

> > If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and with

> Daylight

> > savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I am

> getting 3

> > hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.

> >

> > When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.

> >

> > So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with proper

> data

> > first and the charts have been cast accurately.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

ca/>

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > [astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

> <%40>

] On Behalf Of

> > designhologram

> > Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> for a

> > chart with 3 zeros

> >

> > Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List

> >

> > There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay

of

> > marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus " , and marriage timing,

dated

> > 14 feb 2007

> > the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put to

> test

> > their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.

> > I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participated

> in

> > the discussion .

> >

> > this is a link to one of the messages.

> > http://groups. / group/astrologya

ndtimingevents/

> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118>

> message/14224

> >

> > the details for the chart are , although i would like to point that

> once

> > this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be taken

and

> > lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs to

> make

> > those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,

> > which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on

this

> > with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can be

of

> > help.

> > according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini

,

> > while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancer

> instead

> > of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr

softwares

> > as well,

> > parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to std

time

> > zone.

> > while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time

> > zone as well.

> >

> > Details

> >

> > date: 24th may 1976 ,

> > place : khartoum sundan

> > time: 10:20

> >

> > timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also for

the

> > year 1976 and also put DSt )

> >

> > here are the sites for reference for correcting:

> > http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.

html?n=118

> > <http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.

> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118 & syear=1970>

> html?n=118 & syear=1970>

> > & syear=1970

> > http://www.astro. <http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi>

com/cgi/ade.

cgi

> >

> > Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart for

> study

> > from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. and

oter

> > characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.

> >

> > Thanks once again

> > Swati

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > ashsam73@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > >

> > > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let

me

> > > attempt it.

> > >

> > > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial

> > > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7

bindus.

> > > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst

and

> it

> > > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.

> > >

> > > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house so

its

> > > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not

LoD

> or

> > > LoE for 12th as B.

> > >

> > > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju

is

> not

> > > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is

important

as

> > > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with sperm

> count

> > > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the

idea.

> > > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in

deeper

> so

> > > what to do....

> > >

> > > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the same

time

> > > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.

> > >

> > > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight,

Moon

is

> > > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.

> > >

> > > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from

2nd

> > > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time

its

> > > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose

> > Jupiter.

> > >

> > > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control

over

> 6th

> > > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4

bindus.

> > >

> > > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the

1st

> > > house results, i.e. quality.

> > >

> > > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and

we

> get

> > > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other

planets

> > > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets /

lagna

> > > are supporting Jupiter.

> > >

> > > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and

they

> are

> > >

> > > 1) Lagna

> > > 2) Sun

> > > 3) Moon

> > > 4) Mars

> > > 5) Mercury

> > > 6) Jupiter,

> > > 7) Venus

> > >

> > > So these all are supporting except Saturn.

> > >

> > > Hope that helps,

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

> " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,

> > > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and

techniques

> > > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt,

it

can

> > > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very

correct.

> > > > But my one query remained pending.

> > > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10

> > relationship

> > > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other

hand

> Ma

> > > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement

of

> > > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV

points

> ?

> > > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be

the

> role

> > > > of Ju in this context?

> > > > I think this time you will reply.

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my

opinion

and

> > it

> > > > > need not be right.

> > > > >

> > > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that

Ve when

its

> > > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must

have

atleast

> 3

> > > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can

clarify.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can

have

such

> > > > strong

> > > > > relationships.

> > > > >

> > > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do

not have

> > that

> > > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is

able to

> clarify

> > > > > with dates and times of such.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will

spoilt

> > > > maritial

> > > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is

having 7th

> > sight

> > > > of

> > > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its

spoilt

and

> > he

> > > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple

relationships

> > so

> > > > no

> > > > > doubt about that.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words

mars is in

> 7th

> > > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might

marry. That

> > will

> > > > > be due to his family status or intervention.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less

happiness

in

> > > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result

and

moslty

> in

> > > > 2nd

> > > > > or 3rd sector.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it

hasn't

> given

> > so

> > > > > far, why will it give now going in future?

> > > > >

> > > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will

learn.

> > > > >

> > > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power

and that

> will

> > > > also

> > > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over

and lets

> > watch,

> > > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.

> > > > >

> > > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will

keep us

> > > > posted

> > > > > on the outcome.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to

give

marriage

> > > > > too... so far its not been successful from what

Harjeet has

> > said...

> > > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to

end 2nd

or

> > 3rd

> > > > > sector... is what i feel...

> > > > >

> > > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it

does

not

> > > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

> > " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,

> > > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given

as 27 Nov

> 1973.

> > > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-

> > > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.

> > > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination

> > > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in

5:9

> combination.

> > > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10

combination.

> > > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10

combination.

> > > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and

navamsa.

> > > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years

of age

i.e.

> > > > after

> > > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?

> > > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.

> > > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.

> > > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not

interested in

> > > > marriage.Moon

> > > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house

accommodates two

> > > > malefics

> > > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.

> > > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve,

Mo and

> Ra.This

> > > > may

> > > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.

> > > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by

Ra only in

> > > > navamsa.

> > > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.

> > > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and

12th lord)

> aspects

> > > > his

> > > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.

> > > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7

means enmity

> > towards

> > > > one

> > > > > > another.

> > > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong

points.Thus

> > > > reducing

> > > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic

influence on

> > 12th

> > > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very

important housed

> for

> > > > > > marriage purpose.

> > > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10

> > relationship. Ju

> > > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to

understand these

> > > > > > relationship.

> > > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship

understand to me in

> > > > detail ?

> > > > > > I think this relationship brings very important

for this

> chart.

> > > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I

found only

last

> > two

> > > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the

marriage.

> > > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12

points in WS.It

> means

> > > > > > native should have marriage.

> > > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard

worker.

> > > > Sometimes he

> > > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work.

He is

> > hypocritic

> > > > > > also.

> > > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But

according to

> me

> > > > it

> > > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of

its being

> 6th

> > > > lord.

> > > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences

between lagna

and

> > > > its

> > > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point

scale.

> > > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets

association and

> > > > conjunction

> > > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.

> > > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is

still unmarried

?

> > > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me

LoE but it

> did

> > > > not

> > > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.

> > > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It

did not

> happen.

> > > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma

is SD to

Me

> > LoE.

> > > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event

because it

aspects

> > > > house

> > > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he

should have

> shown

> > > > its

> > > > > > result.

> > > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members

?

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious

to know what

> > happens

> > > > in

> > > > > > end

> > > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.

> > > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning

experience for

> > all.

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" harjeet

> > > > bakshi "

> > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/ Ashji,

> > > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one

zero in 5th house

> and

> > 2

> > > > in

> > > > > > 12th

> > > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson

that there would be

> > > > obstacle

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the

house where zereos

> are

> > > > > > placed.

> > > > > > > > so the native might lack something

related to 5th and

12th

> > > > house

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > might be associated with relationship

and pleasures.

> > > > > > > > despite these other factors already

discussed might not

> give

> > > > > > native a

> > > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he

marries(might be in Ju

> > > > antra).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had

given a chart of my

> > > > friend

> > > > > > who is

> > > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out

that he might have

> more

> > > > than

> > > > > > 2 or

> > > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a

case of

> non-marital

> > > > > > status.

> > > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju

antra (which is

> his

> > > > 6th

> > > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage

in current antra

of

> > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but

unfortunately due to

> some

> > > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of

the girl the

> things

> > > > didnt

> > > > > > work

> > > > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of

ju antra and

might

> > > > deliver

> > > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his

data again if

> required

> > :

> > > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> > > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with

moon and rahu

aspected

> > by

> > > > > > saturn.

> > > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more

points.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

> " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve

main during the period

> > from

> > > > 10

> > > > > > Aug

> > > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > > > > > > > > The native is currently passing

through Ve MD.Ve is

> karak

> > > > for

> > > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th

house matter. Me who is

> > 12th

> > > > > > lord of B

> > > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the

chart is in house

A.

> > > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong

with 5 bindus.

> > > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th

as B with highest

> power

> > > > with

> > > > > > 40

> > > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19

points for Ju in WS.

> > > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of

happiness also but this

house

> is

> > > > > > afflicted

> > > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and

receiving malefic sight of

Ma

> > > > (2nd

> > > > > > and 7th

> > > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord

Ju. Hence there is

some

> > > > > > affliction of

> > > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.

> > > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on

this house ?

> > > > > > > > > This is for learning

purpose.Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" Sanjiva

> > > > > > Sharma "

> > > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You staed that:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > " In this chart also Ju

is in Libra and its aspected

by

> > Sa

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to

cancer. He must go for

> > > > regular

> > > > > > > > > checkups "

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following

points.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is

it necessary that Ju

> > > > should

> > > > > > be in

> > > > > > > > > Libra?

> > > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed

that Ju should be

afflicted

> > by

> > > > Sat

> > > > > > &

> > > > > > > > > Mars.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing

of the " cancer " to

come

> > out

> > > > as

> > > > > > > > > disease?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer

on which part of the

> body?

> > > > Is it

> > > > > > > > > related to

> > > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > trologyandtimingeve

> <trologyandtimingevents%40>

nts (AT) (DOT)

com

> > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > <trologyandtimingeve

> <trologyandtimingevents%40>

nts (AT) (DOT)

com

> > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there

are 3 zeros, ju in Libra

> and

> > > > ve in

> > > > > > > > > krittika

> > > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting

this Venus and that too they

> are

> > > > in

> > > > > > 1:7 so

> > > > > > > > > > > having enmity.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > This person might be

" allergic " to authority.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is

in Libra and its aspected

> by

> > > > Sa

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone

to cancer. He must go for

> > > > regular

> > > > > > > > > checkups.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent

and might want to do his

own

> > > > > > business or

> > > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart

of non marital status.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > His relationships might

not last for long, even if

> he

> > > > > > marries. So

> > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of

marriage it might be very

> > > > delayed in

> > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40

years and that too for

> > > > companionship.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > However I feel this

person might not marry, he

don't

> > > > have

> > > > > > > > > blessings

> > > > > > > > > > > either.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents@

s.com

> > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

bala

> > > > sosale

> > > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the

blog.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart

where there is no delay by Ju or

Sa

> > > > but

> > > > > > has 3

> > > > > > > > > zeros?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate

delay in this chart? He is

> still

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > > married.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the

details.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > > > > > > > > 15N32

> > > > > > > > > > > > 32E32

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10

Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju

21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6

Cn

> 13

> > > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > Bala

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------

--------- --------- ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving

about the all-new Mail

> > beta.

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of this message have been

> > removed]

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> >

>

August 6, 2008

Dear

Satish,

Thanks

for looking this up.

Cheers !!!

On Behalf Of Sateesh Batas

Wednesday August 6, 2008

5:11 PM

Re:

Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3

zeros

GJ

software gives about 5* Cancer for Lagna...

========

-----

Original Message -----

Sateesh Batas

Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:04 PM

Re: Re: Question on delay of

Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros

3

Hours including DST would normally mean 2 Hours in normal time.

========

-----

Original Message -----

Ash's Corner

Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:00 PM

RE: Re: Question on delay of

Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros

Dear Blanie ji,

No, I am not talking of ayanamsa, but try to go to this link

and enter Khartum, Sudan and u will see that it says

to use 3 hrs east of GMT and Daylight Savings is in effect.

Do the same for Toronto for today as DST is in effect and it will

give u 4 hrs west of GMT and with Daylight in effect (EDT 4:00 with DST)

That’s where my confusion is.

Here is the link... try it out....

> > <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=118

On another note, Krushnaji has always taught me to first be

satisfied with the data from my heart and for some reason, I am not sure of

this so am having a hard timing moving on.

If someone can tell me that astro.com is wrong or if I am blatantly

overlooking something that is so elementary or rudimentary and its really like

“Duh....... “ , I am willing to understand and accept it.

..

August 6, 2008

Actually It's "Sateesh" - can't stand being called Satish

:-)

========

- Ash's Corner

Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:27 PM

RE: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros

Dear Satish,

Thanks for looking this up.

..

August 6, 2008

Dear Ashji,

i took all the time and explained you in all possible ways. I said the

same thing what Blaine Ji was saying, but may be i could not use right

terminology. as i said i like ur command on the subject of KAS, this

was technical issue, i will always look forward to learning from you.

I said i dont want to look into toranto, since i was sure of what i was

saying ! Else i never give up! til get to bottom of things! and i

believe in healthy debate with elders and gurus also , if i have any

iota of doubt also or if i believe my point has some value even i was

not doing full justice. Gurus and teachers should not force things " sit

and listen.. they should say listen and let us spread light!

Cheers

Swati

, " Ash's Corner "

<kas wrote:

>

> Dear Swati,

>

> Your wrote

>

> " > The same way for Toronto, it is giving 4 hours west of GMT with

DST.

> i dont have time to try the whole world. it is very simple. "

>

> If you do not have the time, nor the patience, then, I shall not work

on

> this chart any more. :-)

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> On Behalf Of

> designhologram

> Wednesday August 6, 2008 4:55 PM

>

> Re: Question on delay of Marriage

for a

> chart with 3 zeros

>

> Dear Ashji,

>

> > But Astro.com/atlas is giving 3 hrs east and DST. So that is BGT

-03:00

> and

> > DST set to yes taking lagna to 22 Gemini xx

>

> i dont rely on astro.com/atlas and i think its a recent site. But

still i

> think it is giving right information. it never says to add DSt when u

have

> already done 3 hrs east of GMT , DSt is written as connotation. at

same

> cordinate on top it mentions h2e+dt =3he for convience witten it is

DST

> added . if i type in todays date, u wil find EET written somewhere for

> khartoum.

>

> > The same way for Toronto, it is giving 4 hours west of GMT with DST.

> i dont have time to try the whole world. it is very simple.

> >

> > I am still not clear. If what u say were true then astro.com/atlas

should

> > show 2 hrs east and DST.

> what i say is true and that is what ur favorite site mentions.

> > Still that 1 hour difference I am not clear on.

> > What you are saying is to take 2 hours EET and DST and what I am

saying

> and

> > so is that document to take 3 hours east and DST.

> May be KAS software doesnt allow to make charts before 2000 for

khartoum. As

> EET is a recent system. or one can apply logic and put manually the

> corrections.

> > If I enter EET-02:00 with DST = YES I get 5 Cn 47

> i put these settings

> > If I enter BGT -03:00 with DST = Yes I get 22 Ge 16.

> u put these settings

> > The astro.com/atlas tells me to take 3 hrs with DST and u are taking

2

> hours

> > with DST.

> 2+1=3

> > Cheers !!!

> Swazz

>

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > On Behalf Of

> > designhologram

> > Wednesday August 6, 2008 4:14 PM

> >

> > Re: Question on delay of

Marriage for

> a

> > chart with 3 zeros

> >

> > Dear Ashji,

> > i wil just give a last try to explain you ,

> > essentially what ur doing is 1DST + 3 CAST = (-4 east of GMT)

> >

> > essentially what needs to be DONE is 1DST +2 CAT ( central african

> > time) = 3 east of GMT or 3 CAST (Central African Saving Time )

> >

> > EET time zone is being used now introduced in 2000 i guess , which

is

> > different from CAT time zone system

> > So we get 5 degrees cancer in KAS or 4 degrees 53 min in cancer with

> > lahiri Ayanamsa.

> >

> > hope this clears the air. We are all treading on same path to get

> > consumed by light of knowledge.

> > Thanks

> > Swati

> >

> > <%40> , " Ash's

Corner@ "

> > kas@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sunil ji and Blaine ji,

> > >

> > > This is what is given in the

> > >

> > > Sunday, April 25, 1976 at 1:00:00 AM1 hour+3 hoursCAST

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > <%40>

> > > [

> > <%40> ] On Behalf Of

Sunil

> > Sharma

> > > Wednesday August 6, 2008 11:42 AM

> > >

> > <%40>

> > > Re: Re: Question on delay of

> > Marriage

> > > for a chart with 3 zeros

> > >

> > > HI Blaine,

> > > Sorry, perhaps the right expression should be 'offset'? not time

zone.

> > I

> > > agree Time Zone should be -2 and -3 hours for astrological

purposes.

> > > Sunil

> > >

> > > --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Blaine Watson blainepw@ wrote:

> > > Blaine Watson blainepw@

> > > Re: Re: Question on delay of

> > Marriage

> > > for a chart with 3 zeros

> > >

> > <%40>

> > > Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 8:26 AM

> > > dear sunil

> > >

> > > as per all atlases i have access to it should be -2 time zone with

dst

> > so

> > > eedt and add -3 to get ut

> > >

> > > On 6-Aug-08, at 8:15 AM, Sunil Sharma wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Ash,

> > > Time Zone for Khartoum, Sudan is UTC +2 hours. For 1976, DST

started

> > on

> > > Sunday the 25th April 1976 at 00:00:00 hours, on which day the

offset

> > > changed from UTC +2 hours to UTC +3 hours. It ended on Thursday

the 14

> > > October 1976 at 00:00:00 hours when the clock reverted to UTC +2

hours

> > from

> > > UTC +3hours. You can check the link below:

> > > http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/clockchange.

> > >

> >

<http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=118 & year=1976>

> > & year=1976>

> > > html?n=118 & year=1976

> > > Hope I have been of help.

> > > Regards

> > > Sunil

> > >

> > > --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas@ wrote:

> > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas@

> > > RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of

> > Marriage

> > > for a chart with 3 zeros

> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > > Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:34 AM

> > > Dear Swati,

> > >

> > > You still don?t get it. I don?t have any contention, I just want

to

> > get

> > > correct facts.

> > >

> > > 1) Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memory

> > serves me

> > > right.

> > > 2) You are getting 5 Cancer

> > > 3) From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrs

> > east

> > > and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX

> > > 4) JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time

> > >

> > > So what is the real fact, that all I want to know.

> > >

> > > I have tired to show u how If I use astro.com/atlas is giving

results

> > I am

> > > getting Gemini lagna.

> > >

> > > Can someone please check this and let us know what the real

setting is

> > for

> > > Khartum, Sudan on 24th May 1976?

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

[astrologyan

> > > dtimingevents] On Behalf Of designhologram

> > > Tuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PM

> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of

Marriage

> > for a

> > > chart with 3 zeros

> > >

> > > Dear Ashji,

> > > i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to

get to

> > > proper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were not

> > > coming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions

about

> > it.

> > > So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail

in

> > the

> > > forum.

> > >

> > > Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KAS

> > > without any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software and

> > rely

> > > more on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and

see

> > > some success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST ,

since

> > i

> > > didnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just

started

> > > studying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji,

but

> > > still i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.

> > > So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject,

will

> > put

> > > DST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted

to

> > > inform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study

,

> > > and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.

> > >

> > > And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in

believing

> > > that 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.

> > >

> > > Thanks Swati

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

vents@

> > s.com,

> > > " Ash's Corner@ "

> > > kas@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Swati,

> > > >

> > > > Please do not say wrong things .

> > > >

> > > > I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in

this

> > > case.

> > > >

> > > > If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to

YES as

> > > given

> > > > in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.

> > > >

> > > > So what is the fact?

> > > >

> > > > Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan

for

> > > 24th

> > > > May 1976.

> > > >

> > > > If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and

with

> > > Daylight

> > > > savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I

am

> > > getting 3

> > > > hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.

> > > >

> > > > When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.

> > > >

> > > > So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with

proper

> > > data

> > > > first and the charts have been cast accurately.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>

> > > http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

vents@

> > s.com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> > > <%40> ] On Behalf Of

> > > > designhologram

> > > > Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

vents@

> > s.com

> > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of

> > Marriage

> > > for a

> > > > chart with 3 zeros

> > > >

> > > > Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List

> > > >

> > > > There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay

of

> > > > marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus " , and marriage timing,

dated

> > > > 14 feb 2007

> > > > the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put

to

> > > test

> > > > their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around

january.

> > > > I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had

participated

> > > in

> > > > the discussion .

> > > >

> > > > this is a link to one of the messages.

> > > > http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/

> > >

</message/14224>

> > > message/14224

> > > >

> > > > the details for the chart are , although i would like to point

that

> > > once

> > > > this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be

taken

> > and

> > > > lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs

to

> > > make

> > > > those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical

problem,

> > > > which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion on

> > this

> > > > with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can

be

> > of

> > > > help.

> > > > according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees

gemini

> > ,

> > > > while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancer

> > > instead

> > > > of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othr

> > softwares

> > > > as well,

> > > > parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to

std

> > time

> > > > zone.

> > > > while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std

time

> > > > zone as well.

> > > >

> > > > Details

> > > >

> > > > date: 24th may 1976 ,

> > > > place : khartoum sundan

> > > > time: 10:20

> > > >

> > > > timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also

for

> > the

> > > > year 1976 and also put DSt )

> > > >

> > > > here are the sites for reference for correcting:

> > > > http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.

> > > <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118>

> > html?n=118

> > > > <http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.

> > > <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118

> >

<http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118 & syear=1970>

> > & syear=1970>

> > > html?n=118 & syear=1970>

> > > > & syear=1970

> > > > http://www.astro. <http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi>

com/cgi/ade.

> > cgi

> > > >

> > > > Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart

for

> > > study

> > > > from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse.

and

> > oter

> > > > characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks once again

> > > > Swati

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

vents@

> > s.com

> > > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > > ashsam73@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let

me

> > > > > attempt it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial

> > > > > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7

> > bindus.

> > > > > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst

and

> > > it

> > > > > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house

so

> > its

> > > > > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not

LoD

> > > or

> > > > > LoE for 12th as B.

> > > > >

> > > > > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju

is

> > > not

> > > > > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is

important

> > as

> > > > > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with

sperm

> > > count

> > > > > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get the

> > idea.

> > > > > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in

deeper

> > > so

> > > > > what to do....

> > > > >

> > > > > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the

same

> > time

> > > > > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight,

Moon

> > is

> > > > > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from

2nd

> > > > > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time

its

> > > > > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will

oppose

> > > > Jupiter.

> > > > >

> > > > > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control

over

> > > 6th

> > > > > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4

> > bindus.

> > > > >

> > > > > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing

the

> > 1st

> > > > > house results, i.e. quality.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and

we

> > > get

> > > > > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and other

> > planets

> > > > > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets /

> > lagna

> > > > > are supporting Jupiter.

> > > > >

> > > > > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and

they

> > > are

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Lagna

> > > > > 2) Sun

> > > > > 3) Moon

> > > > > 4) Mars

> > > > > 5) Mercury

> > > > > 6) Jupiter,

> > > > > 7) Venus

> > > > >

> > > > > So these all are supporting except Saturn.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope that helps,

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

vents@

> > s.com

> > > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

> > > " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,

> > > > > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles and

> > techniques

> > > > > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt,

it

> > can

> > > > > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very

correct.

> > > > > > But my one query remained pending.

> > > > > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10

> > > > relationship

> > > > > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other

hand

> > > Ma

> > > > > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement

of

> > > > > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAV

> > points

> > > ?

> > > > > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be

the

> > > role

> > > > > > of Ju in this context?

> > > > > > I think this time you will reply.

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

vents@

> > s.com

> > > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my

opinion

> > and

> > > > it

> > > > > > > need not be right.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve

when

> > its

> > > > > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must have

> > atleast

> > > 3

> > > > > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can

clarify.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can have

> > such

> > > > > > strong

> > > > > > > relationships.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not

have

> > > > that

> > > > > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able to

> > > clarify

> > > > > > > with dates and times of such.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will

spoilt

> > > > > > maritial

> > > > > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having

7th

> > > > sight

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its

spoilt

> > and

> > > > he

> > > > > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiple

> > relationships

> > > > so

> > > > > > no

> > > > > > > doubt about that.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars

is in

> > > 7th

> > > > > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry.

That

> > > > will

> > > > > > > be due to his family status or intervention.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less

happiness

> > in

> > > > > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result and

> > moslty

> > > in

> > > > > > 2nd

> > > > > > > or 3rd sector.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it

hasn't

> > > given

> > > > so

> > > > > > > far, why will it give now going in future?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and

that

> > > will

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and

lets

> > > > watch,

> > > > > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will

keep us

> > > > > > posted

> > > > > > > on the outcome.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to give

> > marriage

> > > > > > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet

has

> > > > said...

> > > > > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end

2nd

> > or

> > > > 3rd

> > > > > > > sector... is what i feel...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it

does

> > not

> > > > > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

vents@

> > s.com

> > > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

> > > > " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,

> > > > > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27

Nov

> > > 1973.

> > > > > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-

> > > > > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.

> > > > > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination

> > > > > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9

> > > combination.

> > > > > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.

> > > > > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10

combination.

> > > > > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.

> > > > > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of age

> > i.e.

> > > > > > after

> > > > > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?

> > > > > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.

> > > > > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.

> > > > > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in

> > > > > > marriage.Moon

> > > > > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates

two

> > > > > > malefics

> > > > > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.

> > > > > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo and

> > > Ra.This

> > > > > > may

> > > > > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.

> > > > > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only

in

> > > > > > navamsa.

> > > > > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.

> > > > > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord)

> > > aspects

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.

> > > > > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means

enmity

> > > > towards

> > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > another.

> > > > > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong

points.Thus

> > > > > > reducing

> > > > > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic

influence on

> > > > 12th

> > > > > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important

housed

> > > for

> > > > > > > > marriage purpose.

> > > > > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10

> > > > relationship. Ju

> > > > > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand

these

> > > > > > > > relationship.

> > > > > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to

me in

> > > > > > detail ?

> > > > > > > > I think this relationship brings very important for this

> > > chart.

> > > > > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found only

> > last

> > > > two

> > > > > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.

> > > > > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in

WS.It

> > > means

> > > > > > > > native should have marriage.

> > > > > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.

> > > > > > Sometimes he

> > > > > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is

> > > > hypocritic

> > > > > > > > also.

> > > > > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But

according to

> > > me

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its

being

> > > 6th

> > > > > > lord.

> > > > > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between

lagna

> > and

> > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.

> > > > > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and

> > > > > > conjunction

> > > > > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.

> > > > > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still

unmarried

> > ?

> > > > > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE

but it

> > > did

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.

> > > > > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did not

> > > happen.

> > > > > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD

to

> > Me

> > > > LoE.

> > > > > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because it

> > aspects

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should

have

> > > shown

> > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > result.

> > > > > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?

> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

vents@

> > s.com

> > > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know

what

> > > > happens

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > end

> > > > > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.

> > > > > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience

for

> > > > all.

> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

vents@

> > s.com

> > > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" harjeet

> > > > > > bakshi "

> > > > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/ Ashji,

> > > > > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th

house

> > > and

> > > > 2

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > 12th

> > > > > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would

be

> > > > > > obstacle

> > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the house where

zereos

> > > are

> > > > > > > > placed.

> > > > > > > > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th

and

> > 12th

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.

> > > > > > > > > > despite these other factors already discussed might

not

> > > give

> > > > > > > > native a

> > > > > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be

in Ju

> > > > > > antra).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart

of my

> > > > > > friend

> > > > > > > > who is

> > > > > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might

have

> > > more

> > > > > > than

> > > > > > > > 2 or

> > > > > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case of

> > > non-marital

> > > > > > > > status.

> > > > > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra

(which is

> > > his

> > > > > > 6th

> > > > > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current

antra

> > of

> > > > > > jupiter

> > > > > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due

to

> > > some

> > > > > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl the

> > > things

> > > > > > didnt

> > > > > > > > work

> > > > > > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra and

> > might

> > > > > > deliver

> > > > > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again if

> > > required

> > > > :

> > > > > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.

> > > > > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahu

> > aspected

> > > > by

> > > > > > > > saturn.

> > > > > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

vents@

> > s.com

> > > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

> > > " aarceemastro2002 "

> > > > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,

> > > > > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the

period

> > > > from

> > > > > > 10

> > > > > > > > Aug

> > > > > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?

> > > > > > > > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve

is

> > > karak

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me

who is

> > > > 12th

> > > > > > > > lord of B

> > > > > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in

house

> > A.

> > > > > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.

> > > > > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with

highest

> > > power

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > 40

> > > > > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.

> > > > > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but this

> > house

> > > is

> > > > > > > > afflicted

> > > > > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight

of

> > Ma

> > > > > > (2nd

> > > > > > > > and 7th

> > > > > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there is

> > some

> > > > > > > > affliction of

> > > > > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.

> > > > > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?

> > > > > > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

vents@

> > s.com

> > > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,

" Sanjiva

> > > > > > > > Sharma "

> > > > > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > You staed that:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > " In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its

aspected

> > by

> > > > Sa

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go

for

> > > > > > regular

> > > > > > > > > > > checkups "

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following points.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that

Ju

> > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > be in

> > > > > > > > > > > Libra?

> > > > > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should be

> > afflicted

> > > > by

> > > > > > Sat

> > > > > > > > &

> > > > > > > > > > > Mars.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the " cancer " to

> > come

> > > > out

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > disease?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of

the

> > > body?

> > > > > > Is it

> > > > > > > > > > > related to

> > > > > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > trologyandtimingeve

> > > <trologyandtimingevents%40> nts (AT) (DOT)

> > com

> > > > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > <trologyandtimingeve

> > > <trologyandtimingevents%40> nts (AT) (DOT)

> > com

> > > > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com> ,

" ashsam73 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in

Libra

> > > and

> > > > > > ve in

> > > > > > > > > > > krittika

> > > > > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too

they

> > > are

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > 1:7 so

> > > > > > > > > > > > > having enmity.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > This person might be " allergic " to authority.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its

aspected

> > > by

> > > > > > Sa

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > conjoins

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go

for

> > > > > > regular

> > > > > > > > > > > checkups.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do

his

> > own

> > > > > > > > business or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > His relationships might not last for long,

even if

> > > he

> > > > > > > > marries. So

> > > > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be

very

> > > > > > delayed in

> > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for

> > > > > > companionship.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, he

> > don't

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > > blessings

> > > > > > > > > > > > > either.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

vents@

> > s.com

> > > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , bala

> > > > > > sosale

> > > > > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju

or

> > Sa

> > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > has 3

> > > > > > > > > > > zeros?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He

is

> > > still

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > married.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Male

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15N32

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 32E32

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa

6

> > Cn

> > > 13

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bala

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new

Mail

> > > > beta.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 6, 2008

My

apologies for misspelling your name.

Cheers !!!

Per http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=118

On Behalf Of Sateesh Batas

Wednesday August 6, 2008

5:46 PM

To:

Re:

Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3

zeros

Actually

It's " Sateesh " - can't stand being called Satish

:-)

========

-----

Original Message -----

Ash's Corner

Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:27 PM

RE: Re: Question on delay of

Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros

Dear Satish,

Thanks for looking this up.

..

August 6, 2008

my pleasure. swati and sateesh were saying the same thing just in different ways. i hope we all got it right and are on the same page now.On 6-Aug-08, at 2:26 PM, Ash's Corner wrote:Dear Blanie ji, Thanks for your effort and your patience in helping me understand this “enigma” for me. I guess some things come easy for some people and for some it takes time and I am right now riding the “slow coach “. Patience really is a virtue JCheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Blaine WatsonSent: Wednesday August 6, 2008 5:17 PMTo: Subject: Re: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros ash ji that woud be the right lagna, geminii, for the western horoscope which they are using. if i use the sidereal horoscope it comes to be kark so you are right. i think they are saying in astrodienst 3 hours east after using dst or 2 hours east plus dst. but i am just guessing here. every other sidereal atlas i have access to says 2 hours east plus dst and label it as eedt blaine On 6-Aug-08, at 2:00 PM, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote: Dear Blanie ji, No, I am not talking of ayanamsa, but try to go to this link and enterKhartum, Sudan and u will see that it says to use 3 hrs east of GMT and Daylight Savings is in effect. Do the same for Toronto for today as DST is in effect and it will give u 4 hrs west of GMT and with Daylight in effect (EDT 4:00 with DST) That’s where my confusion is. Here is the link... try it out.... www.astro.com/atlas On another note, Krushnaji has always taught me to first be satisfied with the data from my heart and for some reason, I am not sure of this so am having a hard timing moving on. If someone can tell me that astro.com is wrong or if I am blatantly overlooking something that is so elementary or rudimentary and its really like “Duh....... “ , I am willing to understand and accept it. Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Blaine WatsonSent: Wednesday August 6, 2008 4:54 PMTo: Subject: Re: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros all the atlases i have access to take 2 hours east and dst so karka lagna. funny the confusion eh? does the astro.com atlas use the same ayanamsha as kas? On 6-Aug-08, at 1:33 PM, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote: Dear Swati, But Astro.com/atlas is giving 3 hrs east and DST. So that is BGT -03:00 and DST set to yes taking lagna to 22 Gemini xx The same way for Toronto, it is giving 4 hours west of GMT with DST. I am still not clear. If what u say were true then astro.com/atlas should show 2 hrs east and DST. Still that 1 hour difference I am not clear on. What you are saying is to take 2 hours EET and DST and what I am saying and so is that document to take 3 hours east and DST. If I enter EET -02:00 with DST = YES I get 5 Cn 47 If I enter BGT -03:00 with DST = Yes I get 22 Ge 16. The astro.com/atlas tells me to take 3 hrs with DST and u are taking 2 hours with DST. Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of designhologramSent: Wednesday August 6, 2008 4:14 PMTo: Subject: Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros Dear Ashji,i wil just give a last try to explain you ,essentially what ur doing is 1DST + 3 CAST = (-4 east of GMT)essentially what needs to be DONE is 1DST +2 CAT ( central africantime) = 3 east of GMT or 3 CAST (Central African Saving Time )EET time zone is being used now introduced in 2000 i guess , which isdifferent from CAT time zone systemSo we get 5 degrees cancer in KAS or 4 degrees 53 min in cancer withlahiri Ayanamsa.hope this clears the air. We are all treading on same path to getconsumed by light of knowledge.ThanksSwati--- In , "Ash's Corner"<kas wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji and Blaine ji,>> This is what is given in the>>> Sunday, April 25, 1976 at 1:00:00 AM1 hour+3 hoursCAST>> Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca>> > On Behalf Of SunilSharma> Wednesday August 6, 2008 11:42 AM> To: > Re: Re: Question on delay ofMarriage> for a chart with 3 zeros>>> HI Blaine,> Sorry, perhaps the right expression should be 'offset'? not time zone.I> agree Time Zone should be -2 and -3 hours for astrological purposes.> Sunil>> --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Blaine Watson blainepw wrote:> Blaine Watson blainepw Re: Re: Question on delay ofMarriage> for a chart with 3 zeros> To: > Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 8:26 AM> dear sunil>> as per all atlases i have access to it should be -2 time zone with dstso> eedt and add -3 to get ut>>> On 6-Aug-08, at 8:15 AM, Sunil Sharma wrote:>>>>>> Hi Ash,> Time Zone for Khartoum, Sudan is UTC +2 hours. For 1976, DST startedon> Sunday the 25th April 1976 at 00:00:00 hours, on which day the offset> changed from UTC +2 hours to UTC +3 hours. It ended on Thursday the 14> October 1976 at 00:00:00 hours when the clock reverted to UTC +2 hoursfrom> UTC +3hours. You can check the link below:> http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/clockchange.><http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=118 & year=1976>> html?n=118 & year=1976> Hope I have been of help.> Regards> Sunil>>> --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas wrote:> Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca kas RE: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay ofMarriage> for a chart with 3 zeros> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:34 AM> Dear Swati,>> You still don?t get it. I don?t have any contention, I just want toget> correct facts.>> 1) Bala has given Lagna to be at around 19 Deg or so, if memoryserves me> right.> 2) You are getting 5 Cancer> 3) From astro.com/atlas, the time zone that is coming up is 3 hrseast> and daylight savings time which takes the lagna to 22 Gemini XX> 4) JHL gives 2 hours East with Standard Time>> So what is the real fact, that all I want to know.>> I have tired to show u how If I use astro.com/atlas is giving resultsI am> getting Gemini lagna.>> Can someone please check this and let us know what the real setting isfor> Khartum, Sudan on 24th May 1976?>>> Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca>> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan> dtimingevents] On Behalf Of designhologram> Tuesday August 5, 2008 3:00 PM> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay of Marriagefor a> chart with 3 zeros>> Dear Ashji,> i really dont understand what did i say wrong? I also wanted to get to> proper lagna first before jumping into the study. We both were not> coming to any conclusion while we both had our own contentions aboutit.> So we decided to put it in the forum, and you had told me to mail inthe> forum.>> Besides i am just mere student who is still experimenting with KAS> without any guide , and no success , i hardly use KAS software andrely> more on parashara light or JHS which i find comfortable to use and see> some success rates. I hardly understood technicalities of DST , sincei> didnt get to study many foreign land charts when i had just started> studying Jyotish and had discussed posted that chart with Balaji, but> still i had made a note of it. i remember categorically.> So i consider people who are more knowledgeable in the subject, willput> DST , without mention by the questioner. Anyways i had only wanted to> inform you the marriage date so that it could be of help for study ,> and time devoted earlier by fellow list members.>> And still i believe myself , parashara , JHS may be wrong in believing> that 5 degrees Cancer is right .So i posted to group.>> Thanks Swati>> astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents ,> "Ash's Corner@"> kas@ wrote:> >> > Dear Swati,> >> > Please do not say wrong things .> >> > I want the truth. I want to know what the truth of DST is in this> case.> >> > If One sets the time zone to BGT -03:00 and DST option set to YES as> given> > in astro.com/atlas then the lagna becomes Gemini.> >> > So what is the fact?> >> > Can someone please resolve this DST business, for Khartum, Sudan for> 24th> > May 1976.> >> >> > If I check Astro.com for Toronto, I get 4 hrs west of GMT and with> Daylight> > savings time and if I enter the above date for Khartum, Sudan I am> getting 3> > hours east of GMT and with daylight savings.> >> > When I enter that in my program, I get lagna at 22 Gemini 16.> >> > So, regardless, I want to make sure that we are dealing with proper> data> > first and the charts have been cast accurately.> >> >> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> >> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> <%40> ] On Behalf Of> > designhologram> > Tuesday August 5, 2008 11:28 AM> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Question on delay ofMarriage> for a> > chart with 3 zeros> >> > Hello, Ashji, Balaji, Harjeetji, Rameshji, Sanjivji and List> >> > There was a discussion sometime prior in the forum for " delay of> > marriage for a chart with 3 zero bindus", and marriage timing, dated> > 14 feb 2007> > the native has gotten married on 19th April 2008, so one can put to> test> > their reasoning . it was an arranged marriage fixed around january.> > I think Ashji Harjeetji, Rameshji, Balaji, Sanjivji had participated> in> > the discussion .> >> > this is a link to one of the messages.> > http://groups. / group/astrologya ndtimingevents/> </message/14224>> message/14224> >> > the details for the chart are , although i would like to point that> once> > this study was taken , the DSt settings were forgotten to be takenand> > lagna was casted at 19 degrees 26 minutes cancer , so one needs to> make> > those changes and recast the chart. But here is a technical problem,> > which you all can come together and clear. i had a discussion onthis> > with ashji, but we failed to come to conclusion. So you all can beof> > help.> > according to Ashji the lagna would be rectified to 22 degrees gemini,> > while according to me it would be rectified to 5 degrees cancer> instead> > of earlier discussed 19 degrees cancer. we checked with othrsoftwares> > as well,> > parasara light does not change time zone but adds 1 hr DST to stdtime> > zone.> > while Ash is of view that we need to add DST and change the std time> > zone as well.> >> > Details> >> > date: 24th may 1976 ,> > place : khartoum sundan> > time: 10:20> >> > timezone : eet -2:00 ( here does one change the time zone also forthe> > year 1976 and also put DSt )> >> > here are the sites for reference for correcting:> > http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118> html?n=118>'>http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118> html?n=118> > <http://www.timeandd ate.com/worldclo ck/timezone.> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=118 & syear=1970>> html?n=118 & syear=1970>> > & syear=1970> > http://www.astro. <http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi> com/cgi/ade.cgi> >> > Hope you all wil help sort this information and take the chart for> study> > from there on. If need be will provide details of the spouse. andoter> > characterstics and event timings once we sort out the lagna.> >> > Thanks once again> > Swati> >> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > ashsam73@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ramesh,> > >> > > I am still not clear in your question Ramesh. In any case, let me> > > attempt it.> > >> > > Firstly, our law is that 6th lord in 4th house spoils maritial> > > happiness. Here if u go deeper u will see that Jupiter has 7bindus.> > > Its also given that particularly, Jupiter as 6th lord is worst and> it> > > becomes most cruel, so that itself is a very big thing.> > >> > > Now go deeprer and see the aspect. Ju is aspecting 12th house soits> > > disturbing a very important house for marriage. Jupiter is not LoD> or> > > LoE for 12th as B.> > >> > > Next case, Jupiter aspects 8th house malefically. Here also Ju is> not> > > 1st or 5th lord so it will spoil another house which is importantas> > > it denotes testicles or this might give some problems with sperm> count> > > etc etc etc. I am not going further deeper but u will get theidea.> > > I did not want to say such things Ramesh but u are going in deeper> so> > > what to do....> > >> > > Next see 10th house, its having enemity aspect, but at the sametime> > > its LoE for 10th so its aspect can't be taken as bad.> > >> > > Now, Jupiter is having 7th aspect to Moon means enemy sight, Moonis> > > also 10th lord but its LoE so it's aspect wont spoil Moon.> > >> > > Now, Mars is in 7th hosue and its in Aries so its in 6th from 2nd> > > house and in own house so MF is high for Ma. At the same time its> > > with 3 bindus so here its in 4th from Ju so here Ma will oppose> > Jupiter.> > >> > > Me has 6 bindus and Ju has 7 so here Me cant have its control over> 6th> > > lord so there wont be points transfer as Me has more than 4bindus.> > >> > > Me is also 12th lord and its in 1st house, so its enhancing the1st> > > house results, i.e. quality.> > >> > > Lastly, SAV, there all these things are already considered and we> get> > > say power of Ju = 7 means its making such relation and otherplanets> > > with Jupiter the way they are distributed thereby 7 planets /lagna> > > are supporting Jupiter.> > >> > > Then you can go into detail and find out who those 7 are and they> are> > >> > > 1) Lagna> > > 2) Sun> > > 3) Moon> > > 4) Mars> > > 5) Mercury> > > 6) Jupiter,> > > 7) Venus> > >> > > So these all are supporting except Saturn.> > >> > > Hope that helps,> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > >> > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,> "aarceemastro2002"> > > aarceemastro2002@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ash!My Gurudev,> > > > Whatever I learnt from you I apply those principles andtechniques> > > > In the chart Ju is 6th lord and occupy 4th house.No doubt, itcan> > > > delay and give marriage with less comfort.You are very correct.> > > > But my one query remained pending.> > > > I asked you Ju,Ma and Me these three planets are in 4:10> > relationship> > > > with one another.Ju comes in between Me and Ma.On the other hand> Ma> > > > and Me are in opposite sign.Owing to this type of placement of> > > > planets,how do we interpret it,taking account of their BAVpoints> ?> > > > Here Ju must have some important role to play.What would be the> role> > > > of Ju in this context?> > > > I think this time you will reply.> > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > Quite possible what you say is true. I just gave my opinionand> > it> > > > > need not be right.> > > > >> > > > > My reasoning was simple. Somewhere it was given that Ve whenits> > > > > spoilt also delays marriage. Here this person must haveatleast> 3> > > > > strong relationships / affairs, and this Harjeet can clarify.> > > > >> > > > > Now, after 21 or say even when one is younger one can havesuch> > > > strong> > > > > relationships.> > > > >> > > > > His 4th such relationship will be good. Now till I do not have> > that> > > > > information I can't say anything unless Harjeet is able to> clarify> > > > > with dates and times of such.> > > > >> > > > > Now 6th lord is in 4th house with 7 bindus so it will spoilt> > > > maritial> > > > > life, ve to sun distance is a lot 46 deg and Sa is having 7th> > sight> > > > of> > > > > enimity on Venus and also luminiary so definitely its spoiltand> > he> > > > > might even have extra maritial affairs or multiplerelationships> > so> > > > no> > > > > doubt about that.> > > > >> > > > > Now, 2nd lord is in 6th (upachya) or in other words mars is in> 7th> > > > > hosue and in 6th from 2nd house so I feel he might marry. That> > will> > > > > be due to his family status or intervention.> > > > >> > > > > Now question is of when, I feel that there is less happinessin> > > > > maritial life, so Ju being 6th lord will give result andmoslty> in> > > > 2nd> > > > > or 3rd sector.> > > > >> > > > > Now on the other hand what u say is also true, if it hasn't> given> > so> > > > > far, why will it give now going in future?> > > > >> > > > > Let us wait and watch, and that way we both will learn.> > > > >> > > > > Nexxt antra is of Saturn too, that is lowerst power and that> will> > > > also> > > > > become very eager to give, but let first Ju get over and lets> > watch,> > > > > otherwise, Sa 1st sector is also very keen.> > > > >> > > > > But let's wait and watch. I am very sure, Harjeet will keep us> > > > posted> > > > > on the outcome.> > > > >> > > > > Now, one thing to observe, is that Ju is trying to givemarriage> > > > > too... so far its not been successful from what Harjeet has> > said...> > > > > but Ju is in capricorn so things might get delayed to end 2ndor> > 3rd> > > > > sector... is what i feel...> > > > >> > > > > I am penning it down in any case, right or wrong... it doesnot> > > > > matter.. but it does matter for our learning....> > > > >> > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > > > >> > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,> > "aarceemastro2002"> > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ash,Harjeet and Bala,> > > > > > I am talking about the native whose DOB is given as 27 Nov> 1973.> > > > > > The native is still unmarried besides:-> > > > > > 1.Presence of blessings in navamsa.> > > > > > 2.Lagna lord and its 7th lord in 5:9 combination> > > > > > 3.Sunsign lord and 7th lord from him is also in 5:9> combination.> > > > > > 4.Moonsign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > > 5.Vensian sign lord and its 7th lord is in 4:10 combination.> > > > > > 6.No delay either by Sa or by Ju in rasi and navamsa.> > > > > > 7.Su to Ve distance is 40 deg 21 <43.> > > > > >> > > > > > The native should marry after completing 21 years of agei.e.> > > > after> > > > > > Ve-Me antara.But this is not the case.Why ?> > > > > > Negative trends of the chart is as below.> > > > > > 1.Ve is in nakshtra ruled by Su.> > > > > > 2.Mo is close to Ra.May be native is not interested in> > > > marriage.Moon> > > > > > controls the mind and 9th house.9th house accommodates two> > > > malefics> > > > > > retrograted Sa and Ke.> > > > > > The 9th house receives the malefic aspects of Ve, Mo and> Ra.This> > > > may> > > > > > be one of the reason for being unmarried.> > > > > > 3.NK Ve is afflicted by Ra and Sa in rasi and by Ra only in> > > > navamsa.> > > > > > 4.Sa casts his aspect on both luminraries.> > > > > > 5.A malefic in 7th house and Me (9th lord and 12th lord)> aspects> > > > his> > > > > > seventh sight to Ma and 7th house.> > > > > > Ma and Me who are FK and LoE also are in 1:7 means enmity> > towards> > > > one> > > > > > another.> > > > > > 6.Jup the 6th lord occupies house 4 with strong points.Thus> > > > reducing> > > > > > the result of 4th house and casting his malefic influence on> > 12th> > > > > > house too. 4th house and 12th house is very important housed> for> > > > > > marriage purpose.> > > > > > 7.Here Me and Ju is in 4:10, Ju and Ma is in 4:10> > relationship. Ju> > > > > > comes in between MA and Me. I am unable to understand these> > > > > > relationship.> > > > > > Can anyone of you make this relationship understand to me in> > > > detail ?> > > > > > I think this relationship brings very important for this> chart.> > > > > > I read the lesson of non marital status and I found onlylast> > two> > > > > > points which is insufficient to deny the marriage.> > > > > > All planets except Sa are strong with >12 points in WS.It> means> > > > > > native should have marriage.> > > > > > The native seems to be very intelligent and hard worker.> > > > Sometimes he> > > > > > remains without food due to more volume of work. He is> > hypocritic> > > > > > also.> > > > > > Ash ! You said he should marry in Ju antara.But according to> me> > > > it> > > > > > seems that he may not marry even in Ju because of its being> 6th> > > > lord.> > > > > > I agree SAV points has very much differences between lagnaand> > > > its> > > > > > 7th.But he gets more than 50 points in 100 point scale.> > > > > > He may be cheater by virtue of planets association and> > > > conjunction> > > > > > but he will dominate his spouse.> > > > > > Kindly tell us what are the facts that he is still unmarried?> > > > > > He could have married in Ra antara.Ra is SD to Me LoE but it> did> > > > not> > > > > > happen.Me has highest 21 points in WS.> > > > > > He could have married in Su antara of Su main.It did not> happen.> > > > > > He could have married in Mo and Ma antara also.Ma is SD toMe> > LoE.> > > > > > Sometimes Ma might not have given the event because itaspects> > > > house> > > > > > A but being SD to Me and occupying house B, he should have> shown> > > > its> > > > > > result.> > > > > > May I expect the comments from our fellow members ?> > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > > > Here Ju is in capricorn, I will be curious to know what> > happens> > > > in> > > > > > end> > > > > > > 2nd sector and 3rd sector for your friend.> > > > > > > Keep us posted. This will be good learning experience for> > all.> > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "harjeet> > > > bakshi"> > > > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Rameshji/Balaji/ Ashji,> > > > > > > > i think (not sure) the native had one zero in 5th house> and> > 2> > > > in> > > > > > 12th> > > > > > > > house. i think i read in the lesson that there would be> > > > obstacle> > > > > > or> > > > > > > > wont get the desired results for the house where zereos> are> > > > > > placed.> > > > > > > > so the native might lack something related to 5th and12th> > > > house> > > > > > which> > > > > > > > might be associated with relationship and pleasures.> > > > > > > > despite these other factors already discussed might not> give> > > > > > native a> > > > > > > > happy or long marriage even if he marries(might be in Ju> > > > antra).> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Rameshji/Ashji if you remember i had given a chart of my> > > > friend> > > > > > who is> > > > > > > > unmarried yet and Ashji pointed out that he might have> more> > > > than> > > > > > 2 or> > > > > > > > 3 affairs and Rameshji pointed out is a case of> non-marital> > > > > > status.> > > > > > > > i thought his marriage would occur in Ju antra (which is> his> > > > 6th> > > > > > > > lord)... he got very close to marriage in current antraof> > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > with a girl(arrange marriage) but unfortunately due to> some> > > > > > > > circumstances for him and the family of the girl the> things> > > > didnt> > > > > > work> > > > > > > > out. but still its the first sector of ju antra andmight> > > > deliver> > > > > > > > result may be later on..? here is his data again if> required> > :> > > > > > > > 27th nov 1973. 5:10 am. ahmedabad.> > > > > > > > here venus > 43 degrees. venus with moon and rahuaspected> > by> > > > > > saturn.> > > > > > > > ju lord of 6th in house D. with more points.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> ,> "aarceemastro2002"> > > > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash and Bala,> > > > > > > > > How will be his Ju antara in Ve main during the period> > from> > > > 10> > > > > > Aug> > > > > > > > > 2009 to 30 Jun 2010 ?> > > > > > > > > The native is currently passing through Ve MD.Ve is> karak> > > > for> > > > > > 4th> > > > > > > > > house and strong in WS for 4th house matter. Me who is> > 12th> > > > > > lord of B> > > > > > > > > for 4th house and 12th lord of the chart is in houseA.> > > > > > > > > Karak Ve and Me both are strong with 5 bindus.> > > > > > > > > The antara lord Ju is LoE for 4th as B with highest> power> > > > with> > > > > > 40> > > > > > > > > points and 11th house has 19 points for Ju in WS.> > > > > > > > > The 4th house is house of happiness also but thishouse> is> > > > > > afflicted> > > > > > > > > due to presence of Ra and receiving malefic sight ofMa> > > > (2nd> > > > > > and 7th> > > > > > > > > lord of 4th house) and 6th lord Ju. Hence there issome> > > > > > affliction of> > > > > > > > > his happiness during this period.> > > > > > > > > Can you please shed some light on this house ?> > > > > > > > > This is for learning purpose.Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , "Sanjiva> > > > > > Sharma"> > > > > > > > > <sanjiva_sharma@ > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > You staed that:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > "In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspectedby> > Sa> > > > and> > > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > > regular> > > > > > > > > checkups"> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Please clarify the following points.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 1.For to be cancer -prone, Is it necessary that Ju> > > > should> > > > > > be in> > > > > > > > > Libra?> > > > > > > > > > In the lesson, it is staed that Ju should beafflicted> > by> > > > Sat> > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > Mars.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 2. How do we find the timing of the "cancer " tocome> > out> > > > as> > > > > > > > > disease?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 3. How do we find the cancer on which part of the> body?> > > > Is it> > > > > > > > > related to> > > > > > > > > > house, where Ju is situated?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Sanjiva Sharma> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > trologyandtimingeve> <trologyandtimingevents%40> nts > > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com>> > > > > > > > > >> > > > <trologyandtimingeve> <trologyandtimingevents%40> nts > > <trologyandti mingevents% 40. com> , "ashsam73"> > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > In this chart, yes there are 3 zeros, ju in Libra> and> > > > ve in> > > > > > > > > krittika> > > > > > > > > > > too. Sa is aspecting this Venus and that too they> are> > > > in> > > > > > 1:7 so> > > > > > > > > > > having enmity.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This person might be "allergic" to authority.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > In this chart also Ju is in Libra and its aspected> by> > > > Sa> > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > conjoins> > > > > > > > > > > Mars so he is also prone to cancer. He must go for> > > > regular> > > > > > > > > checkups.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > He is quite intelligent and might want to do hisown> > > > > > business or> > > > > > > > > > > eventually do that.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > This might fit in chart of non marital status.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > His relationships might not last for long, even if> he> > > > > > marries. So> > > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > > there is any chance of marriage it might be very> > > > delayed in> > > > > > life> > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > can be after 36 or 40 years and that too for> > > > companionship.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > However I feel this person might not marry, hedon't> > > > have> > > > > > > > > blessings> > > > > > > > > > > either.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca<http://www.ashtro.ca/>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > <astrologyand timingevents% 40. com> , bala> > > > sosale> > > > > > > > > > > bsosale@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the blog.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I have a chart where there is no delay by Ju orSa> > > > but> > > > > > has 3> > > > > > > > > zeros?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay in this chart? He is> still> > > > not> > > > > > > > > married.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the details.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Male> > > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1976> > > > > > > > > > > > 10.20 AM.> > > > > > > > > > > > Khartoum, Sudan> > > > > > > > > > > > EET -02.00> > > > > > > > > > > > 15N32> > > > > > > > > > > > 32E32> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > As 19 Cn 26 Su 10 Ta 39 Mo 18 Pi 48 Ma> > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 48 MeR 4 Ta 49 Ju 21 Ar 18 Ve 3 Ta 55 Sa 6Cn> 13> > > > > > > > > > > Ra 18 Li 59 Ke 18 Ar 59> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > > > Bala> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail> > beta.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been> > removed]> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have beenremoved]> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

August 7, 2008

Namaste Ash

- for Khartum, Sudan

says

Standard time zone:

UTC/GMT +3 hours

No daylight saving time in 2008

For Toronto,

Canada http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=250

says

Standard time zone:

UTC/GMT -5 hours

Daylight saving time:

+1 hour

Current time zone offset:

UTC/GMT -4

hours

Hope this helps?

Best wishes …..

Jai Sita Ram

Ram

On Behalf Of Ash's Corner

06 August 2008 22:01

RE:

Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3

zeros

Dear Blanie ji,

No, I am not talking of ayanamsa, but try to go to this link

and enter Khartum,

Sudan and u

will see that it says to use 3 hrs east of GMT and Daylight Savings is in

effect.

Do the same for Toronto for today as DST is in effect and it will

give u 4 hrs west of GMT and with Daylight in effect (EDT 4:00 with DST)

That’s where my confusion is.

Here is the link... try it out....

On another note, Krushnaji has always taught me to first be

satisfied with the data from my heart and for some reason, I am not sure of

this so am having a hard timing moving on.

If someone can tell me that astro.com is wrong or if I am blatantly

overlooking something that is so elementary or rudimentary and its really like

“Duh....... “ , I am willing to understand and accept it.

Cheers !!!

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August 7, 2008

Dear

Ram ji,

Thank

u for your effort.

Cheers !!!

Per http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=118

On Behalf Of Ram Jaswal

Thursday August 7, 2008 3:26

PM

To:

RE:

Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3

zeros

Namaste Ash

- for Khartum, Sudan says

Standard

time zone:

UTC/GMT

+3 hours

No

daylight saving time in 2008

For Toronto, Canada http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=250

says

Standard

time zone:

UTC/GMT

-5 hours

Daylight

saving time:

+1

hour

Current

time zone offset:

UTC/GMT -4 hours

Hope this helps?

Best wishes …..

Jai Sita Ram

Ram

On Behalf Of Ash's Corner

06 August 2008 22:01

RE:

Re: Question on delay of Marriage for a chart with 3 zeros

Dear Blanie ji,

No, I am not talking of ayanamsa, but try to go to this link

and enter Khartum, Sudan and u will see that it says

to use 3 hrs east of GMT and Daylight Savings is in effect.

Do the same for Toronto for today as DST is in effect and it will

give u 4 hrs west of GMT and with Daylight in effect (EDT 4:00 with DST)

That’s where my confusion is.

Here is the link... try it out....

On another note, Krushnaji has always taught me to first be

satisfied with the data from my heart and for some reason, I am not sure of

this so am having a hard timing moving on.

If someone can tell me that astro.com is wrong or if I am blatantly

overlooking something that is so elementary or rudimentary and its really like

“Duh....... “ , I am willing to understand and accept it.

Cheers !!!