What if lord of 6th and lord of 12th together?

March 19, 2007

Dear members,

Here is a chart of a male

DOB 27thDEC1958

TOB 12.37PM

30N19 78E03 IST -5.30

The native was married in Feb1992 and was blessed with a baby

girl on

15Nov1993.But before dat, he left his wife on 5thNov1993.His

father

died in Feb2002.

In the WS, no doubt he was married in venus antra with low

points(6) and also

2nd and 5th house points are also low.So marriage life was not

in harmony,

lords of lagna and 7th house in conjuction in 9th house.

He left his wife in Mercury mahadasha and in Sun antra , which

undoubtely,

pointing to 2nd house in the natal chart

Sun is 6th lord.He was blessed with a child

in Moon antra which is strongest in WS and individually with 6

points also.

The point , which i dnt understand is that Sun

antra sld bless

with a child and not moon antra.Secondly, i was expecting him

back to his

wife in Moon antra 2005-2005 in Ketu MD, which is karkatva to

7th house.

But he didnt.Can member help to explain this?

Regards

Anup

Don't pick lemons.

See all the new 2007 cars at Autos.

March 19, 2007

Dear Anup,

I don't get any conjunction in 9th house, as you mention.

Instead I get conjunction of Sun Venus Saturn in the 9th house and the

lagna is Pisces.

Could you confirm the above.

On 19 Mar 2007 06:48:54 -0700, x y <dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear members,

> Here is a chart of a male

> DOB 27thDEC1958

> TOB 12.37PM

> 30N19 78E03 IST -5.30

> The native was married in Feb1992 and was blessed with a baby girl on

> 15Nov1993.But before dat, he left his wife on 5thNov1993.His father

> died in Feb2002.

> In the WS, no doubt he was married in venus antra with low points(6) and

> also

> 2nd and 5th house points are also low.So marriage life was not in harmony,

> lords of lagna and 7th house in conjuction in 9th house.

> He left his wife in Mercury mahadasha and in Sun antra , which undoubtely,

> pointing to 2nd house in the natal chart

> Sun is 6th lord.He was blessed with a child

> in Moon antra which is strongest in WS and individually with 6 points

> also.

> The point , which i dnt understand is that Sun antra sld bless

> with a child and not moon antra.Secondly, i was expecting him back to his

> wife in Moon antra 2005-2005 in Ketu MD, which is karkatva to 7th house.

> But he didnt.Can member help to explain this?

> Regards

> Anup

>

> Don't pick lemons.

> See all the new 2007 cars at Autos.

>

March 19, 2007

Dear Sudhir,

Plz correct TOB to 12.36M47SEC, and u will get eveything

clear..

the placements are as follows,

As 22 Pi 8 Revati Me Cp Su 12 Sg 38 Moola Ke Cn Mo

25 Ge 59 Punarvasu Ju Ta Ma 24 Ar 30 Bharani Ve Sc Me 20 Sc 30

Jyestha Me Cp Ju 0 Sc 42 Visakha Ju Cn Ve 23 Sg 45 P.Asadha Ve

Sc Sa 6 Sg 32 Moola Ke Ta Ra 25 Vi 55 Chitra Ma Le Ke 25 Pi 55

Revati Me Aq

Thanxs again

Anup

" S. T " <taurus.sudhir wrote:

Dear Anup,

I don't get any conjunction in 9th house, as you mention.

Instead I get conjunction of Sun Venus Saturn in the 9th house and the

lagna is Pisces.

Could you confirm the above.

On 19 Mar 2007 06:48:54 -0700, x y <dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear members,

> Here is a chart of a male

> DOB 27thDEC1958

> TOB 12.37PM

> 30N19 78E03 IST -5.30

> The native was married in Feb1992 and was blessed with a baby girl on

> 15Nov1993.But before dat, he left his wife on 5thNov1993.His father

> died in Feb2002.

> In the WS, no doubt he was married in venus antra with low points(6) and

> also

> 2nd and 5th house points are also low.So marriage life was not in harmony,

> lords of lagna and 7th house in conjuction in 9th house.

> He left his wife in Mercury mahadasha and in Sun antra , which undoubtely,

> pointing to 2nd house in the natal chart

> Sun is 6th lord.He was blessed with a child

> in Moon antra which is strongest in WS and individually with 6 points

> also.

> The point , which i dnt understand is that Sun antra sld bless

> with a child and not moon antra.Secondly, i was expecting him back to his

> wife in Moon antra 2005-2005 in Ketu MD, which is karkatva to 7th house.

> But he didnt.Can member help to explain this?

> Regards

> Anup

>

> Don't pick lemons.

> See all the new 2007 cars at Autos.

>

March 19, 2007

Dear Anup,

OK

The conjunction is in 10th house

Best wishes

Sudhir

On 3/20/07, Anup <dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Sudhir,

> Plz correct TOB to 12.36M47SEC, and u will get eveything clear..

> the placements are as follows,

>

> As 22 Pi 8 Revati Me Cp Su 12 Sg 38 Moola Ke Cn Mo 25 Ge 59 Punarvasu Ju

> Ta Ma 24 Ar 30 Bharani Ve Sc Me 20 Sc 30 Jyestha Me Cp Ju 0 Sc 42 Visakha Ju

> Cn Ve 23 Sg 45 P.Asadha Ve Sc Sa 6 Sg 32 Moola Ke Ta Ra 25 Vi 55 Chitra Ma

> Le Ke 25 Pi 55 Revati Me Aq

>

> Thanxs again

>

> Anup

>

" S. T " <taurus.sudhir <taurus.sudhir%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> Dear Anup,

> I don't get any conjunction in 9th house, as you mention.

> Instead I get conjunction of Sun Venus Saturn in the 9th house and the

> lagna is Pisces.

> Could you confirm the above.

>

> On 19 Mar 2007 06:48:54 -0700, x y <dalh_1 <dalh_1%40>>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear members,

> > Here is a chart of a male

> > DOB 27thDEC1958

> > TOB 12.37PM

> > 30N19 78E03 IST -5.30

> > The native was married in Feb1992 and was blessed with a baby girl on

> > 15Nov1993.But before dat, he left his wife on 5thNov1993.His father

> > died in Feb2002.

> > In the WS, no doubt he was married in venus antra with low points(6) and

> > also

> > 2nd and 5th house points are also low.So marriage life was not in

> harmony,

> > lords of lagna and 7th house in conjuction in 9th house.

> > He left his wife in Mercury mahadasha and in Sun antra , which

> undoubtely,

> > pointing to 2nd house in the natal chart

> > Sun is 6th lord.He was blessed with a child

> > in Moon antra which is strongest in WS and individually with 6 points

> > also.

> > The point , which i dnt understand is that Sun antra sld bless

> > with a child and not moon antra.Secondly, i was expecting him back to

> his

> > wife in Moon antra 2005-2005 in Ketu MD, which is karkatva to 7th house.

> > But he didnt.Can member help to explain this?

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >

> > Don't pick lemons.

> > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos.

> >

March 20, 2007

Dear Anup and Sudhir,

None of the event tallys with he timing.

For example marriage happened in the antara of Ve in Me main.

Though the chart indicates disharmony in marital life but blessings are

present in navamsa.

Su to Ve distance is < 43 Ve is influenced by Ma and Sa. But this affliction

is saved by Ju.

Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

Delay is present in the chart by Sa and Ju. Their delay was over on 07 Jan

1985 during Ju antara in Sa main.

Next MD/AD was that of Me-Me. Me is LoD placed in 9th house with a benefic

planet Ju. Me is also strong in WS with 17 points. Me antara comes first after

the end of delay.Me should give the event first.But it did not give.

In case of death of father , karak for father is Me and NK is Mo. Both these

planets will show the godd karkatwa of 9th house because they are strong in WS.

LoB is Ma, LoA is Me and LoC is Ju. Ju is weak in WS.

Ma is also 6th lord from 9th house of father and cast his malefic aspect on

the 9th, karak of father Me and 2nd and 5th lord Ju.

It seems that father might have died due to some accident or heart attack.

Karak for death of father is Sa. Sa is having 12 points for 4th and 4 points

for 11th in WS.

Sa is LoA for 4th and LoD for 2nd. But for father's death Ju is LoD and Ma

is LoE..The planet is not associated with these two planets.

So I could not understand how sa antara gave the death to his father.

OK now I am short of time.Please confirm the time of birth first.

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

Anup <dalh_1 wrote:

Dear Sudhir,

Plz correct TOB to 12.36M47SEC, and u will get eveything clear..

the placements are as follows,

As 22 Pi 8 Revati Me Cp Su 12 Sg 38 Moola Ke Cn Mo 25 Ge 59 Punarvasu Ju Ta Ma

24 Ar 30 Bharani Ve Sc Me 20 Sc 30 Jyestha Me Cp Ju 0 Sc 42 Visakha Ju Cn Ve 23

Sg 45 P.Asadha Ve Sc Sa 6 Sg 32 Moola Ke Ta Ra 25 Vi 55 Chitra Ma Le Ke 25 Pi 55

Revati Me Aq

Thanxs again

Anup

" S. T " <taurus.sudhir wrote:

Dear Anup,

I don't get any conjunction in 9th house, as you mention.

Instead I get conjunction of Sun Venus Saturn in the 9th house and the

lagna is Pisces.

Could you confirm the above.

On 19 Mar 2007 06:48:54 -0700, x y <dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear members,

> Here is a chart of a male

> DOB 27thDEC1958

> TOB 12.37PM

> 30N19 78E03 IST -5.30

> The native was married in Feb1992 and was blessed with a baby girl on

> 15Nov1993.But before dat, he left his wife on 5thNov1993.His father

> died in Feb2002.

> In the WS, no doubt he was married in venus antra with low points(6) and

> also

> 2nd and 5th house points are also low.So marriage life was not in harmony,

> lords of lagna and 7th house in conjuction in 9th house.

> He left his wife in Mercury mahadasha and in Sun antra , which undoubtely,

> pointing to 2nd house in the natal chart

> Sun is 6th lord.He was blessed with a child

> in Moon antra which is strongest in WS and individually with 6 points

> also.

> The point , which i dnt understand is that Sun antra sld bless

> with a child and not moon antra.Secondly, i was expecting him back to his

> wife in Moon antra 2005-2005 in Ketu MD, which is karkatva to 7th house.

> But he didnt.Can member help to explain this?

> Regards

> Anup

>

> Don't pick lemons.

> See all the new 2007 cars at Autos.

>

March 20, 2007

Dear Ramesh and Sudhir,

First of all, i thank you very much for taking

some time for this chart.

Specially Ramesh for giving his valid reasons on every

aspect of the native

incidents,Yes his father was was suffering from

paralysis, leading to death

due to clot in brain.I think Ramesh expalined nicely for

the father's death

which i overlooked, focusing on prior incidents like

child birth.

Well, i agree Sat antra possibly cant gave the

death to his father

As i been told, i conveyed and worked upon this chart

like you both did.

I be soon inquire abt the precise date and year of death

and wld convey you

soon.

Regards

Anup

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

Dear Anup and Sudhir,

None of the event tallys with he timing.

For example marriage happened in the antara of Ve in Me main.

Though the chart indicates disharmony in marital life but blessings are present

in navamsa.

Su to Ve distance is < 43 Ve is influenced by Ma and Sa. But this affliction is

saved by Ju.

Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

Delay is present in the chart by Sa and Ju. Their delay was over on 07 Jan 1985

during Ju antara in Sa main.

Next MD/AD was that of Me-Me. Me is LoD placed in 9th house with a benefic

planet Ju. Me is also strong in WS with 17 points. Me antara comes first after

the end of delay.Me should give the event first.But it did not give.

In case of death of father , karak for father is Me and NK is Mo. Both these

planets will show the godd karkatwa of 9th house because they are strong in WS.

LoB is Ma, LoA is Me and LoC is Ju. Ju is weak in WS.

Ma is also 6th lord from 9th house of father and cast his malefic aspect on the

9th, karak of father Me and 2nd and 5th lord Ju.

It seems that father might have died due to some accident or heart attack.

Karak for death of father is Sa. Sa is having 12 points for 4th and 4 points for

11th in WS.

Sa is LoA for 4th and LoD for 2nd. But for father's death Ju is LoD and Ma is

LoE..The planet is not associated with these two planets.

So I could not understand how sa antara gave the death to his father.

OK now I am short of time.Please confirm the time of birth first.

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

Anup <dalh_1 wrote:

Dear Sudhir,

Plz correct TOB to 12.36M47SEC, and u will get eveything clear..

the placements are as follows,

As 22 Pi 8 Revati Me Cp Su 12 Sg 38 Moola Ke Cn Mo 25 Ge 59 Punarvasu Ju Ta Ma

24 Ar 30 Bharani Ve Sc Me 20 Sc 30 Jyestha Me Cp Ju 0 Sc 42 Visakha Ju Cn Ve 23

Sg 45 P.Asadha Ve Sc Sa 6 Sg 32 Moola Ke Ta Ra 25 Vi 55 Chitra Ma Le Ke 25 Pi 55

Revati Me Aq

Thanxs again

Anup

" S. T " <taurus.sudhir wrote:

Dear Anup,

I don't get any conjunction in 9th house, as you mention.

Instead I get conjunction of Sun Venus Saturn in the 9th house and the

lagna is Pisces.

Could you confirm the above.

On 19 Mar 2007 06:48:54 -0700, x y <dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear members,

> Here is a chart of a male

> DOB 27thDEC1958

> TOB 12.37PM

> 30N19 78E03 IST -5.30

> The native was married in Feb1992 and was blessed with a baby girl on

> 15Nov1993.But before dat, he left his wife on 5thNov1993.His father

> died in Feb2002.

> In the WS, no doubt he was married in venus antra with low points(6) and

> also

> 2nd and 5th house points are also low.So marriage life was not in harmony,

> lords of lagna and 7th house in conjuction in 9th house.

> He left his wife in Mercury mahadasha and in Sun antra , which undoubtely,

> pointing to 2nd house in the natal chart

> Sun is 6th lord.He was blessed with a child

> in Moon antra which is strongest in WS and individually with 6 points

> also.

> The point , which i dnt understand is that Sun antra sld bless

> with a child and not moon antra.Secondly, i was expecting him back to his

> wife in Moon antra 2005-2005 in Ketu MD, which is karkatva to 7th house.

> But he didnt.Can member help to explain this?

> Regards

> Anup

>

> Don't pick lemons.

> See all the new 2007 cars at Autos.

>

March 20, 2007

Dear Anup,

I feel time of birth is OK.

Venus here has spoiled the home atmosphere, which made him leave home. Jupiter

could not give him job, which has led to frustration.

Only Mars can bring him home otherwise long separation is indicated. I also feel

he is not employed now.

I also have doubts on the longevity of this individual, may be he is not alive.

best wishes

Spirit.

Anup <dalh_1 wrote:

Dear Ramesh and Sudhir,

First of all, i thank you very much for taking some time for this chart.

Specially Ramesh for giving his valid reasons on every aspect of the native

incidents,Yes his father was was suffering from paralysis, leading to death

due to clot in brain.I think Ramesh expalined nicely for the father's death

which i overlooked, focusing on prior incidents like child birth.

Well, i agree Sat antra possibly cant gave the death to his father

As i been told, i conveyed and worked upon this chart like you both did.

I be soon inquire abt the precise date and year of death and wld convey you

soon.

Regards

Anup

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

Dear Anup and Sudhir,

None of the event tallys with he timing.

For example marriage happened in the antara of Ve in Me main.

Though the chart indicates disharmony in marital life but blessings are present

in navamsa.

Su to Ve distance is < 43 Ve is influenced by Ma and Sa. But this affliction is

saved by Ju.

Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

Delay is present in the chart by Sa and Ju. Their delay was over on 07 Jan 1985

during Ju antara in Sa main.

Next MD/AD was that of Me-Me. Me is LoD placed in 9th house with a benefic

planet Ju. Me is also strong in WS with 17 points. Me antara comes first after

the end of delay.Me should give the event first.But it did not give.

In case of death of father , karak for father is Me and NK is Mo. Both these

planets will show the godd karkatwa of 9th house because they are strong in WS.

LoB is Ma, LoA is Me and LoC is Ju. Ju is weak in WS.

Ma is also 6th lord from 9th house of father and cast his malefic aspect on the

9th, karak of father Me and 2nd and 5th lord Ju.

It seems that father might have died due to some accident or heart attack.

Karak for death of father is Sa. Sa is having 12 points for 4th and 4 points for

11th in WS.

Sa is LoA for 4th and LoD for 2nd. But for father's death Ju is LoD and Ma is

LoE..The planet is not associated with these two planets.

So I could not understand how sa antara gave the death to his father.

OK now I am short of time.Please confirm the time of birth first.

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

Anup <dalh_1 wrote:

Dear Sudhir,

Plz correct TOB to 12.36M47SEC, and u will get eveything clear..

the placements are as follows,

As 22 Pi 8 Revati Me Cp Su 12 Sg 38 Moola Ke Cn Mo 25 Ge 59 Punarvasu Ju Ta Ma

24 Ar 30 Bharani Ve Sc Me 20 Sc 30 Jyestha Me Cp Ju 0 Sc 42 Visakha Ju Cn Ve 23

Sg 45 P.Asadha Ve Sc Sa 6 Sg 32 Moola Ke Ta Ra 25 Vi 55 Chitra Ma Le Ke 25 Pi 55

Revati Me Aq

Thanxs again

Anup

" S. T " <taurus.sudhir wrote:

Dear Anup,

I don't get any conjunction in 9th house, as you mention.

Instead I get conjunction of Sun Venus Saturn in the 9th house and the

lagna is Pisces.

Could you confirm the above.

On 19 Mar 2007 06:48:54 -0700, x y <dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear members,

> Here is a chart of a male

> DOB 27thDEC1958

> TOB 12.37PM

> 30N19 78E03 IST -5.30

> The native was married in Feb1992 and was blessed with a baby girl on

> 15Nov1993.But before dat, he left his wife on 5thNov1993.His father

> died in Feb2002.

> In the WS, no doubt he was married in venus antra with low points(6) and

> also

> 2nd and 5th house points are also low.So marriage life was not in harmony,

> lords of lagna and 7th house in conjuction in 9th house.

> He left his wife in Mercury mahadasha and in Sun antra , which undoubtely,

> pointing to 2nd house in the natal chart

> Sun is 6th lord.He was blessed with a child

> in Moon antra which is strongest in WS and individually with 6 points

> also.

> The point , which i dnt understand is that Sun antra sld bless

> with a child and not moon antra.Secondly, i was expecting him back to his

> wife in Moon antra 2005-2005 in Ketu MD, which is karkatva to 7th house.

> But he didnt.Can member help to explain this?

> Regards

> Anup

>

> Don't pick lemons.

> See all the new 2007 cars at Autos.

>

March 21, 2007

Dear Spirit,

I appreciate you for working on this chart and gave your

opinion on this.

The native's financial position was not so good and he was

sent from his

home town to some distant place to assist his father's

business

in 1979-80 against his wishes.

His sister was married in last week of Nov1983.

Some times,we try to tally all the incidents and work

hard

and hard for the results desperately.Perhapes,We may be

wrong in

native's TOB, and try to finetune according to the

incidents to cover

all of them.Even then AD (Antra) hardly comes out with

any result

negative or positive.

We can say that AD difference means

correction of time

in minutes and not hours:)

I am trying my level best to know native's TOB

as correct as

possible from his parents if we are doubtful abt this.

Regards

Anup

" Spirit. M " <spirit.messenger wrote: