Guest guest Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Hi Ash, Ramesh, Anup,Manu and all others, Ash, Thank you very much for replying. I was caught up in a deadline and therefore could not attempt the charts you passed. Please keep them coming. About my question, I totally agree with your suggestion of searching past archives. I actually read up a discussion of a chart which you had solved, you thought that there was an early marriage and krushnaji had pointed a late marriage to you because all planets (ABCDE) were connected with the 6th lord either by sight or samdharmi. Samdharmi part I now understand, but then, I began to wonder that would the 6th lord really be that dangerous if it had neutral sight (4P) on these planets too? In addition it is also mentioned that it can give results one either side, then how do we determine which side? I could not find much answers on this. It is easier to find the results if the chart is not complex (rules like Ve in Krittika, Ju in libra, Sun to Ve >43) but slight complications are kinda difficult to solve, or I am just too slow, I apologize for that. A lot has been discussed by malefic sights or benefic sights but not much has been touched on neutral, that is why I thought I would ask. Thanks again, Sindhu --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Sindhu, > > Discuss the same with Ramesh, Manu, Anup and try to > get relevant mails > from the archives on Karaks. > > Krushanji has talked about it and also solved some > charts. > > Start a good discussion and take the lead Sindhu. > Don't worry, you > have good knowledge. > > Now try to assimilate it all together..... > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > (@Ottawa) > > , > Sindhu Iyer > <sindhu_iyer wrote: > > > > Hi Ash, > > > > Based on this example, the FK and NK Ve is > > afflicted with the 6th lord, would it matter, if > the > > 6th lord was with 4 points or neutral sight? Would > we > > consider them afflicted even then? > > > > > > As always look forward to your answer! > > > > Sindhu > > > > > > --- Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > > > > Dear ASH and Harjeet, > > > > > > In > Mercury > > > antra from she fell in love with a person who > was > > > her boss also.This was in2003.And after this in > 2007 > > > (Venus antra)she had fallen in love with a guy, > who > > > was very rich and they both visited south india > > > together.and on 9th march he left him and didnt > > > contact the female till now. > > > If FK and NK are both afflicted (here VENUS ) > to > > > such extent, can the result be so bad and native > is > > > still unmarried as she is 34 now? > > > Possibly even in sun antra, she wnt marry as > Sun > > > is SD to Jup only and for 5th as well as 12th > house > > > results, sun wont give any result.So she will be > > > 36plus in 2009 > > > Means till 2009, possibly she wld remain > > > unmarried. > > > ASH ji and seniors may perhaps guide,can any > > > coming antra will give marriage result? > > > Regards > > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Anup and Harjeet, > > > > > > Venus to sun = 46, Ve in jayestha, Ve is in sign > of > > > 6th lord in > > > Navamsa means SD to 6th lord. Ve is LoA and 9th > > > lord. > > > > > > When FK and NK is badly afflicted then results > of > > > House B are ??????? > > > > > > Study what has happened in ME antra w.r.t an > > > attachment and also now > > > in Ve antra. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash - http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , > > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > saturn in 5th house in navamsa. > > > > again in navamsa 7th lord is jupiter in 8th > > > aspecting 2nd house. > > > > so delay by both jupiter and saturn. > > > > distance between venus and sun. > > > > venus in jayeshta. > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting 12th house,4th house > and > > > 7th house. > > > > venus is also in navamsa of 6th lord saturn.. > > > > may be case of delayed marriage. > > > > current antra of venus strong for 5th and 12th > > > house... > > > > 7th lord in 5th house.. may give relationship > or > > > love marrige in the > > > > last sector of current antra.. but venus > samdhari > > > to saturn 6th lord > > > > might not deliver positive result. > > > > good chance in the antra of sun(loE) which > follows > > > next... the last > > > > sector. > > > > case of not a very happy married life. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > --- In > , > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > Here is a chart of a female.She is a > > > > civil engineer. > > > > > DOB 25-10-1973 > > > > > TOB 05.10AM > > > > > LAT 21N28 LONG 84E04 IST > > > > > Can we find out why so much delay occured of > > > this marriage ? > > > > > She is still unmarried. > > > > > Wld like to know, in which antra she wld > marry? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the > > > forecast > > > > > with the Search weather shortcut. > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > > > with the Search movie showtime shortcut. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Need Mail bonding? > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from > Answers users. > > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091 > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ TV dinner still cooling? Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV. http://tv./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Dear Sindhu, Namaskar, The 6th lord is always malefic irrespective of any number of point.Consider the point of 6th lord always eight minus the points. So its sight will always be malefic. I have read this in any lesson or from the archives. I do not remeber. The 6th lord in any house reduces the result of that house.. The 6th lord will reduce the result, even it has more points. If the LoD and LoE are SD to 6 th lord or if they are in the navamsa of 6th lord ,then the result of house B is even more reduced. This indicates that D and E lords are also affected by the 6th lord. The planet Su and Mo is exempted from the bad effects as 6th lord. I think your doubt should have been clear now.If you want anything more I am always at your service subject to the availability of time. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote: Hi Ash, Ramesh, Anup,Manu and all others, Ash, Thank you very much for replying. I was caught up in a deadline and therefore could not attempt the charts you passed. Please keep them coming. About my question, I totally agree with your suggestion of searching past archives. I actually read up a discussion of a chart which you had solved, you thought that there was an early marriage and krushnaji had pointed a late marriage to you because all planets (ABCDE) were connected with the 6th lord either by sight or samdharmi. Samdharmi part I now understand, but then, I began to wonder that would the 6th lord really be that dangerous if it had neutral sight (4P) on these planets too? In addition it is also mentioned that it can give results one either side, then how do we determine which side? I could not find much answers on this. It is easier to find the results if the chart is not complex (rules like Ve in Krittika, Ju in libra, Sun to Ve >43) but slight complications are kinda difficult to solve, or I am just too slow, I apologize for that. A lot has been discussed by malefic sights or benefic sights but not much has been touched on neutral, that is why I thought I would ask. Thanks again, Sindhu --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Sindhu, > > Discuss the same with Ramesh, Manu, Anup and try to > get relevant mails > from the archives on Karaks. > > Krushanji has talked about it and also solved some > charts. > > Start a good discussion and take the lead Sindhu. > Don't worry, you > have good knowledge. > > Now try to assimilate it all together..... > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > (@Ottawa) > > , > Sindhu Iyer > <sindhu_iyer wrote: > > > > Hi Ash, > > > > Based on this example, the FK and NK Ve is > > afflicted with the 6th lord, would it matter, if > the > > 6th lord was with 4 points or neutral sight? Would > we > > consider them afflicted even then? > > > > > > As always look forward to your answer! > > > > Sindhu > > > > > > --- Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > > > > Dear ASH and Harjeet, > > > > > > In > Mercury > > > antra from she fell in love with a person who > was > > > her boss also.This was in2003.And after this in > 2007 > > > (Venus antra)she had fallen in love with a guy, > who > > > was very rich and they both visited south india > > > together.and on 9th march he left him and didnt > > > contact the female till now. > > > If FK and NK are both afflicted (here VENUS ) > to > > > such extent, can the result be so bad and native > is > > > still unmarried as she is 34 now? > > > Possibly even in sun antra, she wnt marry as > Sun > > > is SD to Jup only and for 5th as well as 12th > house > > > results, sun wont give any result.So she will be > > > 36plus in 2009 > > > Means till 2009, possibly she wld remain > > > unmarried. > > > ASH ji and seniors may perhaps guide,can any > > > coming antra will give marriage result? > > > Regards > > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Anup and Harjeet, > > > > > > Venus to sun = 46, Ve in jayestha, Ve is in sign > of > > > 6th lord in > > > Navamsa means SD to 6th lord. Ve is LoA and 9th > > > lord. > > > > > > When FK and NK is badly afflicted then results > of > > > House B are ??????? > > > > > > Study what has happened in ME antra w.r.t an > > > attachment and also now > > > in Ve antra. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash - http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , > > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > saturn in 5th house in navamsa. > > > > again in navamsa 7th lord is jupiter in 8th > > > aspecting 2nd house. > > > > so delay by both jupiter and saturn. > > > > distance between venus and sun. > > > > venus in jayeshta. > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting 12th house,4th house > and > > > 7th house. > > > > venus is also in navamsa of 6th lord saturn.. > > > > may be case of delayed marriage. > > > > current antra of venus strong for 5th and 12th > > > house... > > > > 7th lord in 5th house.. may give relationship > or > > > love marrige in the > > > > last sector of current antra.. but venus > samdhari > > > to saturn 6th lord > > > > might not deliver positive result. > > > > good chance in the antra of sun(loE) which > follows > > > next... the last > > > > sector. > > > > case of not a very happy married life. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > --- In > , > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > Here is a chart of a female.She is a > > > > civil engineer. > > > > > DOB 25-10-1973 > > > > > TOB 05.10AM > > > > > LAT 21N28 LONG 84E04 IST > > > > > Can we find out why so much delay occured of > > > this marriage ? > > > > > She is still unmarried. > > > > > Wld like to know, in which antra she wld > marry? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the > > > forecast > > > > > with the Search weather shortcut. > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > > > with the Search movie showtime shortcut. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > Need Mail bonding? > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from > Answers users. > > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091 > > > > > ________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV. http://tv./ Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Dear Ramesh, Sindhu , I wld like to add that if any planet has been powerful due to the sight of 6th lord or being situated in 10th house from 6th lord with less points, then for good results, such planet should not be considered. Regards Anup ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Sindhu, Namaskar, The 6th lord is always malefic irrespective of any number of point.Consider the point of 6th lord always eight minus the points. So its sight will always be malefic. I have read this in any lesson or from the archives. I do not remeber. The 6th lord in any house reduces the result of that house.. The 6th lord will reduce the result, even it has more points. If the LoD and LoE are SD to 6 th lord or if they are in the navamsa of 6th lord ,then the result of house B is even more reduced. This indicates that D and E lords are also affected by the 6th lord. The planet Su and Mo is exempted from the bad effects as 6th lord. I think your doubt should have been clear now.If you want anything more I am always at your service subject to the availability of time. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote: Hi Ash, Ramesh, Anup,Manu and all others, Ash, Thank you very much for replying. I was caught up in a deadline and therefore could not attempt the charts you passed. Please keep them coming. About my question, I totally agree with your suggestion of searching past archives. I actually read up a discussion of a chart which you had solved, you thought that there was an early marriage and krushnaji had pointed a late marriage to you because all planets (ABCDE) were connected with the 6th lord either by sight or samdharmi. Samdharmi part I now understand, but then, I began to wonder that would the 6th lord really be that dangerous if it had neutral sight (4P) on these planets too? In addition it is also mentioned that it can give results one either side, then how do we determine which side? I could not find much answers on this. It is easier to find the results if the chart is not complex (rules like Ve in Krittika, Ju in libra, Sun to Ve >43) but slight complications are kinda difficult to solve, or I am just too slow, I apologize for that. A lot has been discussed by malefic sights or benefic sights but not much has been touched on neutral, that is why I thought I would ask. Thanks again, Sindhu --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Sindhu, > > Discuss the same with Ramesh, Manu, Anup and try to > get relevant mails > from the archives on Karaks. > > Krushanji has talked about it and also solved some > charts. > > Start a good discussion and take the lead Sindhu. > Don't worry, you > have good knowledge. > > Now try to assimilate it all together..... > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > (@Ottawa) > > , > Sindhu Iyer > <sindhu_iyer wrote: > > > > Hi Ash, > > > > Based on this example, the FK and NK Ve is > > afflicted with the 6th lord, would it matter, if > the > > 6th lord was with 4 points or neutral sight? Would > we > > consider them afflicted even then? > > > > > > As always look forward to your answer! > > > > Sindhu > > > > > > --- Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > > > > Dear ASH and Harjeet, > > > > > > In > Mercury > > > antra from she fell in love with a person who > was > > > her boss also.This was in2003.And after this in > 2007 > > > (Venus antra)she had fallen in love with a guy, > who > > > was very rich and they both visited south india > > > together.and on 9th march he left him and didnt > > > contact the female till now. > > > If FK and NK are both afflicted (here VENUS ) > to > > > such extent, can the result be so bad and native > is > > > still unmarried as she is 34 now? > > > Possibly even in sun antra, she wnt marry as > Sun > > > is SD to Jup only and for 5th as well as 12th > house > > > results, sun wont give any result.So she will be > > > 36plus in 2009 > > > Means till 2009, possibly she wld remain > > > unmarried. > > > ASH ji and seniors may perhaps guide,can any > > > coming antra will give marriage result? > > > Regards > > > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Anup and Harjeet, > > > > > > Venus to sun = 46, Ve in jayestha, Ve is in sign > of > > > 6th lord in > > > Navamsa means SD to 6th lord. Ve is LoA and 9th > > > lord. > > > > > > When FK and NK is badly afflicted then results > of > > > House B are ??????? > > > > > > Study what has happened in ME antra w.r.t an > > > attachment and also now > > > in Ve antra. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash - http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , > > > " harjeet bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > saturn in 5th house in navamsa. > > > > again in navamsa 7th lord is jupiter in 8th > > > aspecting 2nd house. > > > > so delay by both jupiter and saturn. > > > > distance between venus and sun. > > > > venus in jayeshta. > > > > 6th lord saturn aspecting 12th house,4th house > and > > > 7th house. > > > > venus is also in navamsa of 6th lord saturn.. > > > > may be case of delayed marriage. > > > > current antra of venus strong for 5th and 12th > > > house... > > > > 7th lord in 5th house.. may give relationship > or > > > love marrige in the > > > > last sector of current antra.. but venus > samdhari > > > to saturn 6th lord > > > > might not deliver positive result. > > > > good chance in the antra of sun(loE) which > follows > > > next... the last > > > > sector. > > > > case of not a very happy married life. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > --- In > , > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > Here is a chart of a female.She is a > > > > civil engineer. > > > > > DOB 25-10-1973 > > > > > TOB 05.10AM > > > > > LAT 21N28 LONG 84E04 IST > > > > > Can we find out why so much delay occured of > > > this marriage ? > > > > > She is still unmarried. > > > > > Wld like to know, in which antra she wld > marry? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the > > > forecast > > > > > with the Search weather shortcut. > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > > > with the Search movie showtime shortcut. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > Need Mail bonding? > > Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from > Answers users. > > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091 > > > > > ________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV. http://tv./ Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Dear Ash, I thought the worksheet did take off the points contributed by 6th lord. Is this so ? Satish --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Ramesh, Anup and Sindhu, > > Be careful here in judgement. > > Yes, Anup, you are right in your approach but u > forgot some important > point. > > Let me try to explain. > > Say, for example, 6th lord is aspecting benefically > and so are other 2 > planets. > > So in your final judgement, what you can do is take > off equal points > given by 6th lord so assume Sa is 6th lord and its > with 3 bindus so > its aspecting by +5. > > Ju is also aspecting with +5 and so is Mars with +5. > > So here 6th lord Sa, Ju and Ma all aspecting by +5. > Now, in the WS, > we are not adding the power of +5 of Sa but just > because 6th lord is > aspecting here others are also helping. > > Say total points of the planet came to say 20 so > here what u can do is > remove -5 (take off points 1 more time given by 6th > lord to offset it) > and then check if the total is still more than 12. > > So 20 - 5 = 15 so here net result is still good even > after we have > offseted the malefic results of 6th. So those 15 > points left are for > doing good so here in such case its ok to select the > planet. > > In another case say if total came to 15 and so here > if we take off -5 > additional 1 times the points of 6th so the total > pure good points > will become 10. So that is less than 12. So in > that case, we should > not consider as pure good points are only 10. > > This is all for quality , so here if the marriage is > Happy then it > wont happen in such a planet. > > I hope its clear now. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , > Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, Sindhu , > > > > I wld like > to add that if > any planet has been powerful due to the sight of 6th > lord or being > situated in 10th house from 6th lord with less > points, then for good > results, such planet should not be considered. > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Sindhu, Namaskar, > > The 6th lord is always malefic irrespective of any > number of > point.Consider the point of 6th lord always eight > minus the points. So > its sight will always be malefic. > > I have read this in any lesson or from the > archives. I do not remeber. > > > > The 6th lord in any house reduces the result of > that house.. > > > > The 6th lord will reduce the result, even it has > more points. > > > > If the LoD and LoE are SD to 6 th lord or if they > are in the navamsa > of 6th lord ,then the result of house B is even more > reduced. > > This indicates that D and E lords are also > affected by the 6th lord. > > > > The planet Su and Mo is exempted from the bad > effects as 6th lord. > > I think your doubt should have been clear now.If > you want anything > more I am always at your service subject to the > availability of time. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote: > > Hi Ash, Ramesh, Anup,Manu and all others, > > Ash, Thank you very much for replying. I was > caught > > up in a deadline and therefore could not attempt > the > > charts you passed. Please keep them coming. > > > > About my question, I totally agree with your > > suggestion of searching past archives. I actually > read > > up a discussion of a chart which you had solved, > you > > thought that there was an early marriage and > krushnaji > > had pointed a late marriage to you because all > planets > > (ABCDE) were connected with the 6th lord either by > > sight or samdharmi. Samdharmi part I now > understand, > > but then, I began to wonder that would the 6th > lord > > really be that dangerous if it had neutral sight > (4P) > > on these planets too? > > > > In addition it is also mentioned that it can give > > results one either side, then how do we determine > > which side? > > > > I could not find much answers on this. It is > easier to > > find the results if the chart is not complex > (rules > > like Ve in Krittika, Ju in libra, Sun to Ve >43) > but > > slight complications are kinda difficult to solve, > or > > I am just too slow, I apologize for that. A lot > has > > been discussed by malefic sights or benefic sights > but > > not much has been touched on neutral, that is why > I > > thought I would ask. > > > > Thanks again, > > Sindhu > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Sindhu, > > > > > > Discuss the same with Ramesh, Manu, Anup and try > to > > > get relevant mails > > > from the archives on Karaks. > > > > > > Krushanji has talked about it and also solved > some > > > charts. > > > > > > Start a good discussion and take the lead > Sindhu. > > > Don't worry, you > > > have good knowledge. > > > > > > Now try to assimilate it all together..... > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > (@Ottawa) > > > > > > , > > > Sindhu Iyer > > > <sindhu_iyer@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Ash, > > > > > > > > Based on this example, the FK and NK Ve is > > > > afflicted with the 6th lord, would it matter, > if > > > the > > > > 6th lord was with 4 points or neutral sight? > Would > > > we > > > > consider them afflicted even then? > > > > > > > > > > > > As always look forward to your answer! > > > > > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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