Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Dear all, While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher rank, i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope everybody will understand whose chart is this... DOB 11-08-1942 TOB 14.30PM LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in ascending order by Sun . But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. He came in power in 1998-1999. before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, drove him to such a power? His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has only 19 points in summary charts. Regards Anup Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Dear Anup, Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. Ramesh Mishra Anup <dalh_1 wrote: Dear all, While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher rank, i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope everybody will understand whose chart is this... DOB 11-08-1942 TOB 14.30PM LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in ascending order by Sun . But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. He came in power in 1998-1999. before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, drove him to such a power? His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has only 19 points in summary charts. Regards Anup Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Dear Ramesh ji, The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 Regards Anup ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Anup, Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. Ramesh Mishra Anup <dalh_1 wrote: Dear all, While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher rank, i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope everybody will understand whose chart is this... DOB 11-08-1942 TOB 14.30PM LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in ascending order by Sun . But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. He came in power in 1998-1999. before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, drove him to such a power? His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has only 19 points in summary charts. Regards Anup Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Dear Anup, Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given 11th Aug 1942? Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please verify. Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you comment on the same. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > Regards > Anup > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Anup, > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > Ramesh Mishra > > Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear all, > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher rank, > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > DOB 11-08-1942 > TOB 14.30PM > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in ascending order by Sun . > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. > He came in power in 1998-1999. > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, drove him to such a power? > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has only 19 points in summary charts. > > Regards > Anup > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Dear Ash, Yes, you are very much right ,This chart is of Parvez musharaf. And i want to say onething regarding this...This all data was given by his mother to a very dear person,and even the planetary placement was also told by her to this person, which seems 100% okay. She was worried abt his son that time. And after this i tallied those placements too. Regarding Birth time...yes, its very much right, as nobody can tell better than a mother. So i wld request you to plz tally the incident urself wheather in line? I CAN PROVIDE U MORE INFO IF U WANT ON THIS.... Sld i expect the answer to ma question now? Regards Anup ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Anup, Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given 11th Aug 1942? Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please verify. Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you comment on the same. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > Regards > Anup > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Anup, > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > Ramesh Mishra > > Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear all, > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher rank, > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > DOB 11-08-1942 > TOB 14.30PM > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in ascending order by Sun . > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. > He came in power in 1998-1999. > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, drove him to such a power? > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has only 19 points in summary charts. > > Regards > Anup > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Dear Anup, There is a law a special law which says that Malefics in 10th house is good. Here Ma is a natural malefic, lagna lord and lord of 6th house and its placed in 10th house with 3 bindus. Being lagna lord and being placed in 10th house and as natural malefic can give a person very good administrative abilities. DBCE points are in rising trend from sun and moon and this gives more daring and independent nature. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > Yes, you are very much right ,This chart is of Parvez musharaf. > And i want to say onething regarding this...This all data was given by his mother to a very dear person,and even the planetary placement was also told by her to this person, which seems 100% okay. > She was worried abt his son that time. > And after this i tallied those placements too. > Regarding Birth time...yes, its very much right, as nobody can tell better than a mother. > So i wld request you to plz tally the incident urself wheather in line? > I CAN PROVIDE U MORE INFO IF U WANT ON THIS.... > Sld i expect the answer to ma question now? > > Regards > Anup > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Anup, > Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? > > Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given > 11th Aug 1942? > > Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please verify. > > Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you comment > on the same. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > > Regards > > Anup > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher > rank, > > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio > is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the > country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope > everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > > > DOB 11-08-1942 > > TOB 14.30PM > > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total > 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in > ascending order by Sun . > > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. > > He came in power in 1998-1999. > > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, > drove him to such a power? > > > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has > only 19 points in summary charts. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Dear Ash, Thankyou very much for telling this special law.As its obvious ,DBCE points are in rising order from sun and moon, so these reflects administrative qualities of a native. I hope you will guide us more in deep about this chart, as its really hard to get a true chart of such person.No doubt,it is not a simple chart as it looks apparentaly from summary chart. Regards Anup ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Anup, There is a law a special law which says that Malefics in 10th house is good. Here Ma is a natural malefic, lagna lord and lord of 6th house and its placed in 10th house with 3 bindus. Being lagna lord and being placed in 10th house and as natural malefic can give a person very good administrative abilities. DBCE points are in rising trend from sun and moon and this gives more daring and independent nature. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > Yes, you are very much right ,This chart is of Parvez musharaf. > And i want to say onething regarding this...This all data was given by his mother to a very dear person,and even the planetary placement was also told by her to this person, which seems 100% okay. > She was worried abt his son that time. > And after this i tallied those placements too. > Regarding Birth time...yes, its very much right, as nobody can tell better than a mother. > So i wld request you to plz tally the incident urself wheather in line? > I CAN PROVIDE U MORE INFO IF U WANT ON THIS.... > Sld i expect the answer to ma question now? > > Regards > Anup > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Anup, > Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? > > Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given > 11th Aug 1942? > > Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please verify. > > Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you comment > on the same. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > > Regards > > Anup > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher > rank, > > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio > is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the > country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope > everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > > > DOB 11-08-1942 > > TOB 14.30PM > > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total > 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in > ascending order by Sun . > > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. > > He came in power in 1998-1999. > > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, > drove him to such a power? > > > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has > only 19 points in summary charts. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Dear Anup, Yes, in time I will go into details of the chart. One thing Anup, if one is given 2 charts or 5 charts and some of persons are world famous then how would one distinguish such charts? I think even Satish has asked this question. KAS portion that Krushnaji has given is for timing of events. Just check this chart, when the native got promotions. You can see that it is mostly in LoD or LoE for 10th. In childhood i.e early teens when he fell and faced with near death like situation and compare it with his assination attempt u will see the antra's as well. Its near Ju end and Sa start. Now, why a person reached such high level w.r.t status. We have talked about timing of event so, when one chart comes and one asks when will I get a job or when will I get authority, one can easily find that out isn't it with the WS and studying the position of planets. Now getting authority and becoming a president of a country is also a promotion but becoming a president of a country v/s becoming the president of a cooking association becomes the status and has got nothing to do with timing of event. Now, Ma in 10th with 3 bindus and Ma being in 10th from lagna as lagna lord, DBCE points rising, 12th lord in 9th means 9th house is enhanced, 6 sectors of Ju making him a politician / diplomatic. Now if time is rectified say by 15 mins then one gets 5 sectors of Ju and 3 of Mars and 1 of Sa showing daring, diplomacy as well as average intellegence. Mars also goes into atleast 6 of the D charts into 10th house. Anup, for timing of events our WS should match. So for him getting married, birth of child, promotions, period of worries etc all such things should match as per the WS. Then for status, that is a whole new world. How do you distinguish a chart of a beggar (asking alms can also be business) vs being a president of a country..... for that kind of lessons we will have to work hard and wait for Krushnaji to teach us that portion. For that we must first be able to time events and master the portion that is taught upto now. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > Thankyou very much for telling this special law.As its obvious ,DBCE points are in rising order from sun and moon, so these reflects administrative qualities of a native. > I hope you will guide us more in deep about this chart, as its really hard to get a true > chart of such person.No doubt,it is not a simple chart as it looks apparentaly from summary chart. > Regards > Anup > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Anup, > > There is a law a special law which says that Malefics in 10th house is > good. Here Ma is a natural malefic, lagna lord and lord of 6th house > and its placed in 10th house with 3 bindus. > > Being lagna lord and being placed in 10th house and as natural malefic > can give a person very good administrative abilities. > > DBCE points are in rising trend from sun and moon and this gives more > daring and independent nature. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > Yes, you are very much right ,This chart > is of Parvez musharaf. > > And i want to say onething regarding this...This all data was > given by his mother to a very dear person,and even the planetary > placement was also told by her to this person, which seems 100% okay. > > She was worried abt his son that time. > > And after this i tallied those placements too. > > Regarding Birth time...yes, its very much right, as nobody can > tell better than a mother. > > So i wld request you to plz tally the incident urself wheather in > line? > > I CAN PROVIDE U MORE INFO IF U WANT ON THIS.... > > Sld i expect the answer to ma question now? > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? > > > > Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given > > 11th Aug 1942? > > > > Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please verify. > > > > Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you comment > > on the same. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > > > > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher > > rank, > > > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio > > is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the > > country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > > > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope > > everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > > > > > DOB 11-08-1942 > > > TOB 14.30PM > > > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > > > > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total > > 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in > > ascending order by Sun . > > > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. > > > He came in power in 1998-1999. > > > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > > > > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, > > drove him to such a power? > > > > > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has > > only 19 points in summary charts. > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Dear Ash, Thanks for this law. I was trying to understand the reason why this is so but could not figure out. Is there any reasoning behind why this law works? Also Ash, by natural malefics you mean only sa and ma, or does that include Ra and Ke as well. The reason I ask is because I had read in one of the VA books that ke in 10th can cause setbacks in career. Thanks again. Regards, Manu , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > There is a law a special law which says that Malefics in 10th house is > good. Here Ma is a natural malefic, lagna lord and lord of 6th house > and its placed in 10th house with 3 bindus. > > Being lagna lord and being placed in 10th house and as natural malefic > can give a person very good administrative abilities. > > DBCE points are in rising trend from sun and moon and this gives more > daring and independent nature. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > Yes, you are very much right ,This chart > is of Parvez musharaf. > > And i want to say onething regarding this...This all data was > given by his mother to a very dear person,and even the planetary > placement was also told by her to this person, which seems 100% okay. > > She was worried abt his son that time. > > And after this i tallied those placements too. > > Regarding Birth time...yes, its very much right, as nobody can > tell better than a mother. > > So i wld request you to plz tally the incident urself wheather in > line? > > I CAN PROVIDE U MORE INFO IF U WANT ON THIS.... > > Sld i expect the answer to ma question now? > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? > > > > Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given > > 11th Aug 1942? > > > > Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please verify. > > > > Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you comment > > on the same. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > > > > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher > > rank, > > > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio > > is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the > > country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > > > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope > > everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > > > > > DOB 11-08-1942 > > > TOB 14.30PM > > > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > > > > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total > > 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in > > ascending order by Sun . > > > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. > > > He came in power in 1998-1999. > > > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > > > > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, > > drove him to such a power? > > > > > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has > > only 19 points in summary charts. > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Dear Manu, Malefics in 10th house is good, this is a static law given by Krushanji. Planets with less points is malefic so planets with less points in 10th house is good. It will enhance the personality of the native. Such a person will have an impressive personality. It also gives the native a good administrative abilities as well. This is a special result given by Krushanji and a static law. Here Mars is with 3 bindus and in 10th house so its a malefic and at that too a natural malefic so its results of personality, administrative ability are enhanced more. Its also 6th lord so such a person does not like being told what to do. DBCE points are in rising order and that too from sun and moon and the effect of that you know. Now this malefic planet in 10th house is mars and mars denotes fire, action, military etc. Also notice 10th lord is in 12th from own house. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for this law. I was trying to understand the reason why this is > so but could not figure out. Is there any reasoning behind why this > law works? Also Ash, by natural malefics you mean only sa and ma, or > does that include Ra and Ke as well. The reason I ask is because I had > read in one of the VA books that ke in 10th can cause setbacks in career. > > Thanks again. > > Regards, > Manu > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > There is a law a special law which says that Malefics in 10th house is > > good. Here Ma is a natural malefic, lagna lord and lord of 6th house > > and its placed in 10th house with 3 bindus. > > > > Being lagna lord and being placed in 10th house and as natural malefic > > can give a person very good administrative abilities. > > > > DBCE points are in rising trend from sun and moon and this gives more > > daring and independent nature. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > Yes, you are very much right ,This chart > > is of Parvez musharaf. > > > And i want to say onething regarding this...This all data was > > given by his mother to a very dear person,and even the planetary > > placement was also told by her to this person, which seems 100% okay. > > > She was worried abt his son that time. > > > And after this i tallied those placements too. > > > Regarding Birth time...yes, its very much right, as nobody can > > tell better than a mother. > > > So i wld request you to plz tally the incident urself wheather in > > line? > > > I CAN PROVIDE U MORE INFO IF U WANT ON THIS.... > > > Sld i expect the answer to ma question now? > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? > > > > > > Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given > > > 11th Aug 1942? > > > > > > Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please verify. > > > > > > Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you comment > > > on the same. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > > > > > > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher > > > rank, > > > > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio > > > is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the > > > country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > > > > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope > > > everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > > > > > > > DOB 11-08-1942 > > > > TOB 14.30PM > > > > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > > > > > > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total > > > 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in > > > ascending order by Sun . > > > > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. > > > > He came in power in 1998-1999. > > > > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > > > > > > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, > > > drove him to such a power? > > > > > > > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has > > > only 19 points in summary charts. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Dear Manu, Ra and Ketu in 10th house will be good for 5th and 1st house. Again, Ra and Ke represent 2 or 3 planets and if they represent weak planets w.r.t power then that might cause problem but that is not always so. Ra and Ke in 10th house means its in D for 1st so it might give one a good name during its antra. If at the same time say it is SD to 2nd lord then it might give worries, if its SD to another planet that is weak in WS then it will give one good results for 1st house and also he might have to face opposition. So blaming ra and ke without studying in detail might be accurate and with KAS we can go into detail and get a perfect understanding on how it will act. Infact in VA its also given that Ra in 10th can make someone like king or someone might reach a high post. Now assume 10th house is Virgo or Pisces and Ra is in 10th house so Ra will be eager to give authority as its LoD as well. Similarly say 10th house is taurus or sco and ra is placed in that then again similar result w.r.t timing. So during antra of Ra one might face rise in career and authorty at the same time it will also give good name and status. So in some parts of VA it might be written that Ra can take someone to great heights and in some cases it might be written that it can cause problems in career. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for this law. I was trying to understand the reason why this is > so but could not figure out. Is there any reasoning behind why this > law works? Also Ash, by natural malefics you mean only sa and ma, or > does that include Ra and Ke as well. The reason I ask is because I had > read in one of the VA books that ke in 10th can cause setbacks in career. > > Thanks again. > > Regards, > Manu > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > There is a law a special law which says that Malefics in 10th house is > > good. Here Ma is a natural malefic, lagna lord and lord of 6th house > > and its placed in 10th house with 3 bindus. > > > > Being lagna lord and being placed in 10th house and as natural malefic > > can give a person very good administrative abilities. > > > > DBCE points are in rising trend from sun and moon and this gives more > > daring and independent nature. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > Yes, you are very much right ,This chart > > is of Parvez musharaf. > > > And i want to say onething regarding this...This all data was > > given by his mother to a very dear person,and even the planetary > > placement was also told by her to this person, which seems 100% okay. > > > She was worried abt his son that time. > > > And after this i tallied those placements too. > > > Regarding Birth time...yes, its very much right, as nobody can > > tell better than a mother. > > > So i wld request you to plz tally the incident urself wheather in > > line? > > > I CAN PROVIDE U MORE INFO IF U WANT ON THIS.... > > > Sld i expect the answer to ma question now? > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? > > > > > > Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given > > > 11th Aug 1942? > > > > > > Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please verify. > > > > > > Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you comment > > > on the same. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > > > > > > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher > > > rank, > > > > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio > > > is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the > > > country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > > > > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope > > > everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > > > > > > > DOB 11-08-1942 > > > > TOB 14.30PM > > > > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > > > > > > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total > > > 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in > > > ascending order by Sun . > > > > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. > > > > He came in power in 1998-1999. > > > > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > > > > > > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, > > > drove him to such a power? > > > > > > > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has > > > only 19 points in summary charts. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Dear Ash, As you said, " Malefics in 10th house is good, this is a static law given by Krushanji. Planets with less points is malefic so planets with less points in 10th house is good. It will enhance the personality of the native. Such a person will have an impressive personality. It also gives the native a good administrative abilities as well. This is a special result given by Krushanji and a static law. " May I say few words, malefics in 10th housee is good. Is it for all malefics ? Or particulary for Ma and Su because Ma and Su attains its directional strength in 10th house so Ma and Su in 10th house is good but not Sa, Ra or Ke. Am I correct ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Manu, Malefics in 10th house is good, this is a static law given by Krushanji. Planets with less points is malefic so planets with less points in 10th house is good. It will enhance the personality of the native. Such a person will have an impressive personality. It also gives the native a good administrative abilities as well. This is a special result given by Krushanji and a static law. Here Mars is with 3 bindus and in 10th house so its a malefic and at that too a natural malefic so its results of personality, administrative ability are enhanced more. Its also 6th lord so such a person does not like being told what to do. DBCE points are in rising order and that too from sun and moon and the effect of that you know. Now this malefic planet in 10th house is mars and mars denotes fire, action, military etc. Also notice 10th lord is in 12th from own house. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for this law. I was trying to understand the reason why this is > so but could not figure out. Is there any reasoning behind why this > law works? Also Ash, by natural malefics you mean only sa and ma, or > does that include Ra and Ke as well. The reason I ask is because I had > read in one of the VA books that ke in 10th can cause setbacks in career. > > Thanks again. > > Regards, > Manu > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > There is a law a special law which says that Malefics in 10th house is > > good. Here Ma is a natural malefic, lagna lord and lord of 6th house > > and its placed in 10th house with 3 bindus. > > > > Being lagna lord and being placed in 10th house and as natural malefic > > can give a person very good administrative abilities. > > > > DBCE points are in rising trend from sun and moon and this gives more > > daring and independent nature. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > Yes, you are very much right ,This chart > > is of Parvez musharaf. > > > And i want to say onething regarding this...This all data was > > given by his mother to a very dear person,and even the planetary > > placement was also told by her to this person, which seems 100% okay. > > > She was worried abt his son that time. > > > And after this i tallied those placements too. > > > Regarding Birth time...yes, its very much right, as nobody can > > tell better than a mother. > > > So i wld request you to plz tally the incident urself wheather in > > line? > > > I CAN PROVIDE U MORE INFO IF U WANT ON THIS.... > > > Sld i expect the answer to ma question now? > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? > > > > > > Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given > > > 11th Aug 1942? > > > > > > Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please verify. > > > > > > Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you comment > > > on the same. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > > > > > > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher > > > rank, > > > > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio > > > is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the > > > country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > > > > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope > > > everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > > > > > > > DOB 11-08-1942 > > > > TOB 14.30PM > > > > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > > > > > > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total > > > 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in > > > ascending order by Sun . > > > > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. > > > > He came in power in 1998-1999. > > > > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > > > > > > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, > > > drove him to such a power? > > > > > > > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has > > > only 19 points in summary charts. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Dear Ash, Anup and all, I could get few eveents in respect of Musharraf from one of the site given by Ash. I think this may help us for reading and analysing chart for the purpose of practice.The events are as such. 1.Immigration to Pakistan in 1947-Me/Su 2.He spent his early years in Turkey from 1949 to 1956-Me/ Mo,Ma,Ra,Ju,Sa. 3.He failed twice in 1sr standard and thrice in 3r standard. 4.Graduated in 1958-Ke/Ke 5.He was in critical condition as a teenager after falling from a Mango tree 6.He entered the Pak Military Academy in 1961-Ke/Ma,Ra 7.He was commissioned in 1964-Ke/ Sa, Me 8.Promoted to the rank of Major on 15 Jan 1991 -Su / Ve 9.Promoted to the rank of Lt.General on 21 Oct 1995- Mo /Sa 10.Became Chie of Army Staff in 1999 -Mo / Ke, Ve 11.He became de-facto head of govt.on 12 Oct 1999- Mo / Ve 12.He declarad himself President on 20 Jun 2001- Ma/ Ma 13.Won the vote of confidence in the electoral college of Pakistan on 01 Jan 2004 -Ma / Sa 14. Escaped from the assassination attempt on 14 Dec 2003 and then 25 Dec 2003- Ma /Sa. Therefore we can take up each event one by one to learn and to verify the birth time also. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Anup <dalh_1 wrote: Dear Ash, Thankyou very much for telling this special law.As its obvious ,DBCE points are in rising order from sun and moon, so these reflects administrative qualities of a native. I hope you will guide us more in deep about this chart, as its really hard to get a true chart of such person.No doubt,it is not a simple chart as it looks apparentaly from summary chart. Regards Anup ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Anup, There is a law a special law which says that Malefics in 10th house is good. Here Ma is a natural malefic, lagna lord and lord of 6th house and its placed in 10th house with 3 bindus. Being lagna lord and being placed in 10th house and as natural malefic can give a person very good administrative abilities. DBCE points are in rising trend from sun and moon and this gives more daring and independent nature. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > Yes, you are very much right ,This chart is of Parvez musharaf. > And i want to say onething regarding this...This all data was given by his mother to a very dear person,and even the planetary placement was also told by her to this person, which seems 100% okay. > She was worried abt his son that time. > And after this i tallied those placements too. > Regarding Birth time...yes, its very much right, as nobody can tell better than a mother. > So i wld request you to plz tally the incident urself wheather in line? > I CAN PROVIDE U MORE INFO IF U WANT ON THIS.... > Sld i expect the answer to ma question now? > > Regards > Anup > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Anup, > Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? > > Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given > 11th Aug 1942? > > Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please verify. > > Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you comment > on the same. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > > Regards > > Anup > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher > rank, > > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio > is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the > country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope > everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > > > DOB 11-08-1942 > > TOB 14.30PM > > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total > 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in > ascending order by Sun . > > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. > > He came in power in 1998-1999. > > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, > drove him to such a power? > > > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has > only 19 points in summary charts. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Dear Ramesh, No you are not correct. As per KAS, malefics are planets with less than 4 bindus. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Ash, As you said, " Malefics in 10th house is good, this is a static law given by Krushanji. Planets with less points is malefic so planets with less points in 10th house is good. It will enhance the personality of the native. Such a person will have an impressive personality. It also gives the native a good administrative abilities as well. This is a special result given by Krushanji and a static law. " May I say few words, malefics in 10th housee is good. Is it for all malefics ? Or particulary for Ma and Su because Ma and Su attains its directional strength in 10th house so Ma and Su in 10th house is good but not Sa, Ra or Ke. Am I correct ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Manu, Malefics in 10th house is good, this is a static law given by Krushanji. Planets with less points is malefic so planets with less points in 10th house is good. It will enhance the personality of the native. Such a person will have an impressive personality. It also gives the native a good administrative abilities as well. This is a special result given by Krushanji and a static law. Here Mars is with 3 bindus and in 10th house so its a malefic and at that too a natural malefic so its results of personality, administrative ability are enhanced more. Its also 6th lord so such a person does not like being told what to do. DBCE points are in rising order and that too from sun and moon and the effect of that you know. Now this malefic planet in 10th house is mars and mars denotes fire, action, military etc. Also notice 10th lord is in 12th from own house. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for this law. I was trying to understand the reason why this is > so but could not figure out. Is there any reasoning behind why this > law works? Also Ash, by natural malefics you mean only sa and ma, or > does that include Ra and Ke as well. The reason I ask is because I had > read in one of the VA books that ke in 10th can cause setbacks in career. > > Thanks again. > > Regards, > Manu > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > There is a law a special law which says that Malefics in 10th house is > > good. Here Ma is a natural malefic, lagna lord and lord of 6th house > > and its placed in 10th house with 3 bindus. > > > > Being lagna lord and being placed in 10th house and as natural malefic > > can give a person very good administrative abilities. > > > > DBCE points are in rising trend from sun and moon and this gives more > > daring and independent nature. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > Yes, you are very much right ,This chart > > is of Parvez musharaf. > > > And i want to say onething regarding this...This all data was > > given by his mother to a very dear person,and even the planetary > > placement was also told by her to this person, which seems 100% okay. > > > She was worried abt his son that time. > > > And after this i tallied those placements too. > > > Regarding Birth time...yes, its very much right, as nobody can > > tell better than a mother. > > > So i wld request you to plz tally the incident urself wheather in > > line? > > > I CAN PROVIDE U MORE INFO IF U WANT ON THIS.... > > > Sld i expect the answer to ma question now? > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? > > > > > > Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given > > > 11th Aug 1942? > > > > > > Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please verify. > > > > > > Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you comment > > > on the same. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > > > > > > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher > > > rank, > > > > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio > > > is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the > > > country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > > > > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope > > > everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > > > > > > > DOB 11-08-1942 > > > > TOB 14.30PM > > > > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > > > > > > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total > > > 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in > > > ascending order by Sun . > > > > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. > > > > He came in power in 1998-1999. > > > > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > > > > > > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, > > > drove him to such a power? > > > > > > > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has > > > only 19 points in summary charts. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Dear Ash, Many thanxs for ur guidance.Some time , some new things come to us in such unique charts, like u said abt the static law for 10th house having malefic planets.But Ash, why these personalties mostly have average points for 10th and 11th houses. Doesnt 11th house reflect gains,income, desire fulfillment? And i think that 2 planets like Mars,Mer beside Rahu in 10th make this house very strong. Then 11th house sld have considerable points as compared to rest of the houses also in WS. As we are using krushna anyamsa, his mother told that Venus is in 8th house, where as using this anyamsa its in 9th obviously at 0CN51. Does this matters also that all the planets are in 4 houses like 7th 8th 9th and 10th in ascending orders manners, respectively . I have two more charts of powerful persons, though , not like mushy's chart but they got the power, administrative qualities in their respective countries. I shall try to send these one by one after this, to know more special qualities. Yes, WS only tell us about the timing of event and for quality, we have to go deeper inside, once we find the accurate chart.Your example of aquiring status for a president and for a president of a cooking association , explains the diffrence of quality of authority. I hope u will keep guiding us in the manner u r doing. Regards Anup ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Anup, Yes, in time I will go into details of the chart. One thing Anup, if one is given 2 charts or 5 charts and some of persons are world famous then how would one distinguish such charts? I think even Satish has asked this question. KAS portion that Krushnaji has given is for timing of events. Just check this chart, when the native got promotions. You can see that it is mostly in LoD or LoE for 10th. In childhood i.e early teens when he fell and faced with near death like situation and compare it with his assination attempt u will see the antra's as well. Its near Ju end and Sa start. Now, why a person reached such high level w.r.t status. We have talked about timing of event so, when one chart comes and one asks when will I get a job or when will I get authority, one can easily find that out isn't it with the WS and studying the position of planets. Now getting authority and becoming a president of a country is also a promotion but becoming a president of a country v/s becoming the president of a cooking association becomes the status and has got nothing to do with timing of event. Now, Ma in 10th with 3 bindus and Ma being in 10th from lagna as lagna lord, DBCE points rising, 12th lord in 9th means 9th house is enhanced, 6 sectors of Ju making him a politician / diplomatic. Now if time is rectified say by 15 mins then one gets 5 sectors of Ju and 3 of Mars and 1 of Sa showing daring, diplomacy as well as average intellegence. Mars also goes into atleast 6 of the D charts into 10th house. Anup, for timing of events our WS should match. So for him getting married, birth of child, promotions, period of worries etc all such things should match as per the WS. Then for status, that is a whole new world. How do you distinguish a chart of a beggar (asking alms can also be business) vs being a president of a country..... for that kind of lessons we will have to work hard and wait for Krushnaji to teach us that portion. For that we must first be able to time events and master the portion that is taught upto now. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > Thankyou very much for telling this special law.As its obvious ,DBCE points are in rising order from sun and moon, so these reflects administrative qualities of a native. > I hope you will guide us more in deep about this chart, as its really hard to get a true > chart of such person.No doubt,it is not a simple chart as it looks apparentaly from summary chart. > Regards > Anup > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Anup, > > There is a law a special law which says that Malefics in 10th house is > good. Here Ma is a natural malefic, lagna lord and lord of 6th house > and its placed in 10th house with 3 bindus. > > Being lagna lord and being placed in 10th house and as natural malefic > can give a person very good administrative abilities. > > DBCE points are in rising trend from sun and moon and this gives more > daring and independent nature. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > Yes, you are very much right ,This chart > is of Parvez musharaf. > > And i want to say onething regarding this...This all data was > given by his mother to a very dear person,and even the planetary > placement was also told by her to this person, which seems 100% okay. > > She was worried abt his son that time. > > And after this i tallied those placements too. > > Regarding Birth time...yes, its very much right, as nobody can > tell better than a mother. > > So i wld request you to plz tally the incident urself wheather in > line? > > I CAN PROVIDE U MORE INFO IF U WANT ON THIS.... > > Sld i expect the answer to ma question now? > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? > > > > Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given > > 11th Aug 1942? > > > > Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please verify. > > > > Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you comment > > on the same. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > > > > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher > > rank, > > > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio > > is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the > > country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > > > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope > > everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > > > > > DOB 11-08-1942 > > > TOB 14.30PM > > > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > > > > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total > > 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in > > ascending order by Sun . > > > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. > > > He came in power in 1998-1999. > > > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > > > > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, > > drove him to such a power? > > > > > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has > > only 19 points in summary charts. > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Dear Ash, I think you did not get my point. I asked do malefics Su and Ma in 10th house are good only or any malefics will be good. I specially mentioned Su and Ma because these two planets attain directional strength in 10th house so they shower good administrative skill. On the other hand other malefics (< 4 points) will not do this.This is as per my knowledge so I asked you. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Ash <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Ramesh, No you are not correct. As per KAS, malefics are planets with less than 4 bindus. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Ash, As you said, " Malefics in 10th house is good, this is a static law given by Krushanji. Planets with less points is malefic so planets with less points in 10th house is good. It will enhance the personality of the native. Such a person will have an impressive personality. It also gives the native a good administrative abilities as well. This is a special result given by Krushanji and a static law. " May I say few words, malefics in 10th housee is good. Is it for all malefics ? Or particulary for Ma and Su because Ma and Su attains its directional strength in 10th house so Ma and Su in 10th house is good but not Sa, Ra or Ke. Am I correct ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Manu, Malefics in 10th house is good, this is a static law given by Krushanji. Planets with less points is malefic so planets with less points in 10th house is good. It will enhance the personality of the native. Such a person will have an impressive personality. It also gives the native a good administrative abilities as well. This is a special result given by Krushanji and a static law. Here Mars is with 3 bindus and in 10th house so its a malefic and at that too a natural malefic so its results of personality, administrative ability are enhanced more. Its also 6th lord so such a person does not like being told what to do. DBCE points are in rising order and that too from sun and moon and the effect of that you know. Now this malefic planet in 10th house is mars and mars denotes fire, action, military etc. Also notice 10th lord is in 12th from own house. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for this law. I was trying to understand the reason why this is > so but could not figure out. Is there any reasoning behind why this > law works? Also Ash, by natural malefics you mean only sa and ma, or > does that include Ra and Ke as well. The reason I ask is because I had > read in one of the VA books that ke in 10th can cause setbacks in career. > > Thanks again. > > Regards, > Manu > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > There is a law a special law which says that Malefics in 10th house is > > good. Here Ma is a natural malefic, lagna lord and lord of 6th house > > and its placed in 10th house with 3 bindus. > > > > Being lagna lord and being placed in 10th house and as natural malefic > > can give a person very good administrative abilities. > > > > DBCE points are in rising trend from sun and moon and this gives more > > daring and independent nature. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > Yes, you are very much right ,This chart > > is of Parvez musharaf. > > > And i want to say onething regarding this...This all data was > > given by his mother to a very dear person,and even the planetary > > placement was also told by her to this person, which seems 100% okay. > > > She was worried abt his son that time. > > > And after this i tallied those placements too. > > > Regarding Birth time...yes, its very much right, as nobody can > > tell better than a mother. > > > So i wld request you to plz tally the incident urself wheather in > > line? > > > I CAN PROVIDE U MORE INFO IF U WANT ON THIS.... > > > Sld i expect the answer to ma question now? > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? > > > > > > Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given > > > 11th Aug 1942? > > > > > > Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please verify. > > > > > > Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you comment > > > on the same. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > > > > > > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher > > > rank, > > > > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio > > > is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the > > > country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > > > > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope > > > everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > > > > > > > DOB 11-08-1942 > > > > TOB 14.30PM > > > > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > > > > > > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total > > > 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in > > > ascending order by Sun . > > > > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. > > > > He came in power in 1998-1999. > > > > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > > > > > > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, > > > drove him to such a power? > > > > > > > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has > > > only 19 points in summary charts. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Dear Anup, SAV are relative points. It gives general indication. 30 points means its good. lagna and 7 planets are in total contributing more than 28 points means making the house benefic. WS is derived from SAV so that will give how life will unfold based on the WS. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > Many thanxs for ur guidance.Some time , some new things come to us in such unique charts, like u said abt the static law for 10th house having malefic planets.But Ash, why these personalties mostly have average points for 10th and 11th houses. > Doesnt 11th house reflect gains,income, desire fulfillment? > And i think that 2 planets like Mars,Mer beside Rahu in 10th make this house very strong. > Then 11th house sld have considerable points as compared to rest of the houses also in WS. > As we are using krushna anyamsa, his mother told that Venus is in 8th house, where as using this anyamsa its in 9th obviously at 0CN51. > Does this matters also that all the planets are in 4 houses like 7th 8th 9th and 10th > in ascending orders manners, respectively . > > I have two more charts of powerful persons, though , not like mushy's chart but they got the power, administrative qualities in their respective countries. > I shall try to send these one by one after this, to know more special qualities. > Yes, WS only tell us about the timing of event and for quality, we have to go deeper inside, once we find the accurate chart.Your example of aquiring status for a president and for a president of a cooking association , explains the diffrence of quality of authority. > I hope u will keep guiding us in the manner u r doing. > Regards > Anup > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Anup, > Yes, in time I will go into details of the chart. One thing Anup, if > one is given 2 charts or 5 charts and some of persons are world famous > then how would one distinguish such charts? > > I think even Satish has asked this question. KAS portion that > Krushnaji has given is for timing of events. > > Just check this chart, when the native got promotions. You can see > that it is mostly in LoD or LoE for 10th. > > In childhood i.e early teens when he fell and faced with near death > like situation and compare it with his assination attempt u will see > the antra's as well. Its near Ju end and Sa start. > > Now, why a person reached such high level w.r.t status. We have > talked about timing of event so, when one chart comes and one asks > when will I get a job or when will I get authority, one can easily > find that out isn't it with the WS and studying the position of > planets. Now getting authority and becoming a president of a country > is also a promotion but becoming a president of a country v/s becoming > the president of a cooking association becomes the status and has got > nothing to do with timing of event. > > Now, Ma in 10th with 3 bindus and Ma being in 10th from lagna as lagna > lord, DBCE points rising, 12th lord in 9th means 9th house is > enhanced, 6 sectors of Ju making him a politician / diplomatic. Now > if time is rectified say by 15 mins then one gets 5 sectors of Ju and > 3 of Mars and 1 of Sa showing daring, diplomacy as well as average > intellegence. Mars also goes into atleast 6 of the D charts into 10th > house. > > Anup, for timing of events our WS should match. So for him getting > married, birth of child, promotions, period of worries etc all such > things should match as per the WS. > > Then for status, that is a whole new world. How do you distinguish a > chart of a beggar (asking alms can also be business) vs being a > president of a country..... for that kind of lessons we will have to > work hard and wait for Krushnaji to teach us that portion. For that > we must first be able to time events and master the portion that is > taught upto now. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > Thankyou very much for telling this special > law.As its obvious ,DBCE points are in rising order from sun and moon, > so these reflects administrative qualities of a native. > > I hope you will guide us more in deep about this chart, as its > really hard to get a true > > chart of such person.No doubt,it is not a simple chart as it looks > apparentaly from summary chart. > > Regards > > Anup > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > > > There is a law a special law which says that Malefics in 10th house is > > good. Here Ma is a natural malefic, lagna lord and lord of 6th house > > and its placed in 10th house with 3 bindus. > > > > Being lagna lord and being placed in 10th house and as natural malefic > > can give a person very good administrative abilities. > > > > DBCE points are in rising trend from sun and moon and this gives more > > daring and independent nature. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > Yes, you are very much right ,This chart > > is of Parvez musharaf. > > > And i want to say onething regarding this...This all data was > > given by his mother to a very dear person,and even the planetary > > placement was also told by her to this person, which seems 100% okay. > > > She was worried abt his son that time. > > > And after this i tallied those placements too. > > > Regarding Birth time...yes, its very much right, as nobody can > > tell better than a mother. > > > So i wld request you to plz tally the incident urself wheather in > > line? > > > I CAN PROVIDE U MORE INFO IF U WANT ON THIS.... > > > Sld i expect the answer to ma question now? > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? > > > > > > Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given > > > 11th Aug 1942? > > > > > > Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please verify. > > > > > > Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you comment > > > on the same. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > > > > > > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher > > > rank, > > > > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio > > > is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the > > > country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > > > > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope > > > everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > > > > > > > DOB 11-08-1942 > > > > TOB 14.30PM > > > > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > > > > > > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total > > > 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in > > > ascending order by Sun . > > > > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. > > > > He came in power in 1998-1999. > > > > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > > > > > > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, > > > drove him to such a power? > > > > > > > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has > > > only 19 points in summary charts. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Dear Ramesh, No I understood you. This is for planets with less than 4 bindus in 10th house, irrespective if its Sun and Mars. If Sun and Mars had more than 4 bindus then the law is not applicable. I think this will clear confusion. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > I think you did not get my point. I asked do malefics Su and Ma in 10th house are good only or any malefics will be good. > I specially mentioned Su and Ma because these two planets attain directional strength in 10th house so they shower good administrative skill. > On the other hand other malefics (< 4 points) will not do this.This is as per my knowledge so I asked you. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Ash <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Ramesh, > > No you are not correct. > > As per KAS, malefics are planets with less than 4 bindus. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Ash, > As you said, > " Malefics in 10th house is good, this is a static law given by Krushanji. > > Planets with less points is malefic so planets with less points in > 10th house is good. It will enhance the personality of the native. > Such a person will have an impressive personality. It also gives the > native a good administrative abilities as well. This is a special > result given by Krushanji and a static law. " > May I say few words, malefics in 10th housee is good. Is it for all malefics ? > Or particulary for Ma and Su because Ma and Su attains its directional strength in 10th house so Ma and Su in 10th house is good but not Sa, Ra or Ke. > Am I correct ? > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Manu, > > Malefics in 10th house is good, this is a static law given by Krushanji. > > Planets with less points is malefic so planets with less points in > 10th house is good. It will enhance the personality of the native. > Such a person will have an impressive personality. It also gives the > native a good administrative abilities as well. This is a special > result given by Krushanji and a static law. > > Here Mars is with 3 bindus and in 10th house so its a malefic and at > that too a natural malefic so its results of personality, > administrative ability are enhanced more. Its also 6th lord so such a > person does not like being told what to do. DBCE points are in rising > order and that too from sun and moon and the effect of that you know. > > Now this malefic planet in 10th house is mars and mars denotes fire, > action, military etc. > > Also notice 10th lord is in 12th from own house. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Thanks for this law. I was trying to understand the reason why this is > > so but could not figure out. Is there any reasoning behind why this > > law works? Also Ash, by natural malefics you mean only sa and ma, or > > does that include Ra and Ke as well. The reason I ask is because I had > > read in one of the VA books that ke in 10th can cause setbacks in > career. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > Regards, > > Manu > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > > There is a law a special law which says that Malefics in 10th house is > > > good. Here Ma is a natural malefic, lagna lord and lord of 6th house > > > and its placed in 10th house with 3 bindus. > > > > > > Being lagna lord and being placed in 10th house and as natural malefic > > > can give a person very good administrative abilities. > > > > > > DBCE points are in rising trend from sun and moon and this gives more > > > daring and independent nature. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Yes, you are very much right ,This chart > > > is of Parvez musharaf. > > > > And i want to say onething regarding this...This all data was > > > given by his mother to a very dear person,and even the planetary > > > placement was also told by her to this person, which seems 100% okay. > > > > She was worried abt his son that time. > > > > And after this i tallied those placements too. > > > > Regarding Birth time...yes, its very much right, as nobody can > > > tell better than a mother. > > > > So i wld request you to plz tally the incident urself wheather in > > > line? > > > > I CAN PROVIDE U MORE INFO IF U WANT ON THIS.... > > > > Sld i expect the answer to ma question now? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? > > > > > > > > Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given > > > > 11th Aug 1942? > > > > > > > > Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please > verify. > > > > > > > > Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you > comment > > > > on the same. > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > > > > > > > > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of > higher > > > > rank, > > > > > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house > ratio > > > > is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the > > > > country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > > > > > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope > > > > everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > > > > > > > > > DOB 11-08-1942 > > > > > TOB 14.30PM > > > > > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > > > > > > > > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, > total > > > > 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by > Mars.DBCE in > > > > ascending order by Sun . > > > > > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a > country. > > > > > He came in power in 1998-1999. > > > > > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > > > > > > > > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, > > > > drove him to such a power? > > > > > > > > > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th > house has > > > > only 19 points in summary charts. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2007 Report Share Posted April 23, 2007 Dear ASH, Its always nice to learn smthing from you regarding any chart .. Sometimes, your few words work like a zip file , and when its unzipped, we can find so many new things, provided we sld know how to unzip this:) Anyway, i dnt want to ask abt native's chart and its possible events in Rahu>Jup period in 2011-2013. Any chart is a new experience for us here, having various colours of lessons. Regards Anup ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Anup, Yes, in time I will go into details of the chart. One thing Anup, if one is given 2 charts or 5 charts and some of persons are world famous then how would one distinguish such charts? I think even Satish has asked this question. KAS portion that Krushnaji has given is for timing of events. Just check this chart, when the native got promotions. You can see that it is mostly in LoD or LoE for 10th. In childhood i.e early teens when he fell and faced with near death like situation and compare it with his assination attempt u will see the antra's as well. Its near Ju end and Sa start. Now, why a person reached such high level w.r.t status. We have talked about timing of event so, when one chart comes and one asks when will I get a job or when will I get authority, one can easily find that out isn't it with the WS and studying the position of planets. Now getting authority and becoming a president of a country is also a promotion but becoming a president of a country v/s becoming the president of a cooking association becomes the status and has got nothing to do with timing of event. Now, Ma in 10th with 3 bindus and Ma being in 10th from lagna as lagna lord, DBCE points rising, 12th lord in 9th means 9th house is enhanced, 6 sectors of Ju making him a politician / diplomatic. Now if time is rectified say by 15 mins then one gets 5 sectors of Ju and 3 of Mars and 1 of Sa showing daring, diplomacy as well as average intellegence. Mars also goes into atleast 6 of the D charts into 10th house. Anup, for timing of events our WS should match. So for him getting married, birth of child, promotions, period of worries etc all such things should match as per the WS. Then for status, that is a whole new world. How do you distinguish a chart of a beggar (asking alms can also be business) vs being a president of a country..... for that kind of lessons we will have to work hard and wait for Krushnaji to teach us that portion. For that we must first be able to time events and master the portion that is taught upto now. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > Thankyou very much for telling this special law.As its obvious ,DBCE points are in rising order from sun and moon, so these reflects administrative qualities of a native. > I hope you will guide us more in deep about this chart, as its really hard to get a true > chart of such person.No doubt,it is not a simple chart as it looks apparentaly from summary chart. > Regards > Anup > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Anup, > > There is a law a special law which says that Malefics in 10th house is > good. Here Ma is a natural malefic, lagna lord and lord of 6th house > and its placed in 10th house with 3 bindus. > > Being lagna lord and being placed in 10th house and as natural malefic > can give a person very good administrative abilities. > > DBCE points are in rising trend from sun and moon and this gives more > daring and independent nature. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > Yes, you are very much right ,This chart > is of Parvez musharaf. > > And i want to say onething regarding this...This all data was > given by his mother to a very dear person,and even the planetary > placement was also told by her to this person, which seems 100% okay. > > She was worried abt his son that time. > > And after this i tallied those placements too. > > Regarding Birth time...yes, its very much right, as nobody can > tell better than a mother. > > So i wld request you to plz tally the incident urself wheather in > line? > > I CAN PROVIDE U MORE INFO IF U WANT ON THIS.... > > Sld i expect the answer to ma question now? > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? > > > > Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given > > 11th Aug 1942? > > > > Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please verify. > > > > Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you comment > > on the same. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > > > > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher > > rank, > > > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio > > is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the > > country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > > > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope > > everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > > > > > DOB 11-08-1942 > > > TOB 14.30PM > > > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > > > > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total > > 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in > > ascending order by Sun . > > > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. > > > He came in power in 1998-1999. > > > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > > > > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, > > drove him to such a power? > > > > > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has > > only 19 points in summary charts. > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Dear Ramesh, Ash, and all You have spent a lot of time finding these events and their respective antras as well.I hope,all members wld do efforts to varify tob.One thing is there that its not a one day job rather a lot of time required for this.Each event can tell us some specials hidden, as per KAS. Regards Anup ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Ash, Anup and all, I could get few eveents in respect of Musharraf from one of the site given by Ash. I think this may help us for reading and analysing chart for the purpose of practice.The events are as such. 1.Immigration to Pakistan in 1947-Me/Su 2.He spent his early years in Turkey from 1949 to 1956-Me/ Mo,Ma,Ra,Ju,Sa. 3.He failed twice in 1sr standard and thrice in 3r standard. 4.Graduated in 1958-Ke/Ke 5.He was in critical condition as a teenager after falling from a Mango tree 6.He entered the Pak Military Academy in 1961-Ke/Ma,Ra 7.He was commissioned in 1964-Ke/ Sa, Me 8.Promoted to the rank of Major on 15 Jan 1991 -Su / Ve 9.Promoted to the rank of Lt.General on 21 Oct 1995- Mo /Sa 10.Became Chie of Army Staff in 1999 -Mo / Ke, Ve 11.He became de-facto head of govt.on 12 Oct 1999- Mo / Ve 12.He declarad himself President on 20 Jun 2001- Ma/ Ma 13.Won the vote of confidence in the electoral college of Pakistan on 01 Jan 2004 -Ma / Sa 14. Escaped from the assassination attempt on 14 Dec 2003 and then 25 Dec 2003- Ma /Sa. Therefore we can take up each event one by one to learn and to verify the birth time also. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Anup <dalh_1 wrote: Dear Ash, Thankyou very much for telling this special law.As its obvious ,DBCE points are in rising order from sun and moon, so these reflects administrative qualities of a native. I hope you will guide us more in deep about this chart, as its really hard to get a true chart of such person.No doubt,it is not a simple chart as it looks apparentaly from summary chart. Regards Anup ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Anup, There is a law a special law which says that Malefics in 10th house is good. Here Ma is a natural malefic, lagna lord and lord of 6th house and its placed in 10th house with 3 bindus. Being lagna lord and being placed in 10th house and as natural malefic can give a person very good administrative abilities. DBCE points are in rising trend from sun and moon and this gives more daring and independent nature. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > Yes, you are very much right ,This chart is of Parvez musharaf. > And i want to say onething regarding this...This all data was given by his mother to a very dear person,and even the planetary placement was also told by her to this person, which seems 100% okay. > She was worried abt his son that time. > And after this i tallied those placements too. > Regarding Birth time...yes, its very much right, as nobody can tell better than a mother. > So i wld request you to plz tally the incident urself wheather in line? > I CAN PROVIDE U MORE INFO IF U WANT ON THIS.... > Sld i expect the answer to ma question now? > > Regards > Anup > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Anup, > Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? > > Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given > 11th Aug 1942? > > Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please verify. > > Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you comment > on the same. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > > Regards > > Anup > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher > rank, > > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio > is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the > country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope > everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > > > DOB 11-08-1942 > > TOB 14.30PM > > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total > 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in > ascending order by Sun . > > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. > > He came in power in 1998-1999. > > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, > drove him to such a power? > > > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has > only 19 points in summary charts. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Dear Anup and Ramesh, Add to the list, Marriage of Parvez Musharaf in 1968. I was not able to find out the month and date of that though. IF anyone has that add that to the list of events. Pay particular stress on studying Venus and Saturn in the times when he got power or was promoted. His Sa is LoE in House D for 10th and LoD is Venus and Sa and Ve are NSD as well. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, Ash, and all > You have spent a lot of time finding these events and their respective antras as well.I hope,all members wld do efforts to varify tob.One thing is there that its not a one day job rather a lot of time required for this.Each event can tell us some specials hidden, as per KAS. > > Regards > Anup > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Ash, Anup and all, > I could get few eveents in respect of Musharraf from one of the site given by Ash. > I think this may help us for reading and analysing chart for the purpose of practice.The events are as such. > 1.Immigration to Pakistan in 1947-Me/Su > 2.He spent his early years in Turkey from 1949 to 1956-Me/ Mo,Ma,Ra,Ju,Sa. > 3.He failed twice in 1sr standard and thrice in 3r standard. > 4.Graduated in 1958-Ke/Ke > 5.He was in critical condition as a teenager after falling from a Mango tree > 6.He entered the Pak Military Academy in 1961-Ke/Ma,Ra > 7.He was commissioned in 1964-Ke/ Sa, Me > 8.Promoted to the rank of Major on 15 Jan 1991 -Su / Ve > 9.Promoted to the rank of Lt.General on 21 Oct 1995- Mo /Sa > 10.Became Chie of Army Staff in 1999 -Mo / Ke, Ve > 11.He became de-facto head of govt.on 12 Oct 1999- Mo / Ve > 12.He declarad himself President on 20 Jun 2001- Ma/ Ma > 13.Won the vote of confidence in the electoral college of Pakistan on 01 Jan 2004 -Ma / Sa > 14. Escaped from the assassination attempt on 14 Dec 2003 and then 25 Dec 2003- Ma /Sa. > Therefore we can take up each event one by one to learn and to verify the birth time also. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Ash, > Thankyou very much for telling this special law.As its obvious ,DBCE points are in rising order from sun and moon, so these reflects administrative qualities of a native. > I hope you will guide us more in deep about this chart, as its really hard to get a true > chart of such person.No doubt,it is not a simple chart as it looks apparentaly from summary chart. > Regards > Anup > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Anup, > > There is a law a special law which says that Malefics in 10th house is > good. Here Ma is a natural malefic, lagna lord and lord of 6th house > and its placed in 10th house with 3 bindus. > > Being lagna lord and being placed in 10th house and as natural malefic > can give a person very good administrative abilities. > > DBCE points are in rising trend from sun and moon and this gives more > daring and independent nature. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > Yes, you are very much right ,This chart > is of Parvez musharaf. > > And i want to say onething regarding this...This all data was > given by his mother to a very dear person,and even the planetary > placement was also told by her to this person, which seems 100% okay. > > She was worried abt his son that time. > > And after this i tallied those placements too. > > Regarding Birth time...yes, its very much right, as nobody can > tell better than a mother. > > So i wld request you to plz tally the incident urself wheather in > line? > > I CAN PROVIDE U MORE INFO IF U WANT ON THIS.... > > Sld i expect the answer to ma question now? > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > Dear Anup, > > Is this the chart of Parvez Musharaf? > > > > Wikipedia gives the birth date as 11th Aug 1943 and you have given > > 11th Aug 1942? > > > > Maybe I am mistaken about who's chart this is, can you please verify. > > > > Also we need to know how authentic the birth time is. Can you comment > > on the same. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh ji, > > > > > > The dob of the native is 11th Aug1942 > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > > Birth date is 11th of Aug or 8th of Nov. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > > > While going thru few of the charts relating to the persons of higher > > rank, > > > i generally found that their respective 10th verus 11th house ratio > > is average( #30pts),And if this chart relates to some head of the > > country, even then..the apparently chart shows like this. > > > Here is such a chart , which i came to know recently.I hope > > everybody will understand whose chart is this... > > > > > > DOB 11-08-1942 > > > TOB 14.30PM > > > LAT 28N39 LONG 77E13 IST > > > > > > In divisional D-3,D-9,D-30 , Jup appears twice in each sector, total > > 6 times, Mars twice beside Sat once.One zero in 9house by Mars.DBCE in > > ascending order by Sun . > > > But he emerged as a very very powerful administrative of a country. > > > He came in power in 1998-1999. > > > before that he slowly emerged in the army to top rank. > > > > > > Can members help to analyse, whcih particular houses, as per KAS, > > drove him to such a power? > > > > > > His 6th (34pts) and 7th (39pts) houses are strong, but 9th house has > > only 19 points in summary charts. > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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