Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Dear Satish, For this verse, from your book, can you tell me what does the book read? Is there any sanskrit verse given in your book as well. From the internet hyperlink that I wrote these from, except translation into english nothing else was given. I want to see if originally was Saptamesh given and in course of time it became Astamesh or was it given as Saptamesh and someone translated that as Ashtamesh? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Laghu Parasarai says > > " 11. Mercury has less of this evil nature as compared to Venus; the > Moon has much less than that of Mercury. The same way the Sun and the > Moon are not evil being Asthmesh (lord of the 8th). " > > IN KAS WE SAY > > Mercury is more benefic than Venus for that you can see the total > bindus in lesson one. Mercury has been allocated 54 benefic points > and Venus has 52 benefic points. > > Moon hsa much less than that of Mercury it says, and if you check the > bindus allocated to Moon its only 49 bindus or benefic points so > compared to Mercury's 54, Moons is far less of 49. > > In KAS we say that Sun and Moon are not malefic as 6th lord or > saptemesh but in laghu parasari its given for Ashtemesh. > > 6th house is what we take as most malefic and infact from 8th house we > see death which is most auspicious event as per KAS and will happen in > highest power planet or LoD or LoE etc. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Laghu prarasarai says > > > > " 6. All the planets owning Trines, i.e. the 1st, 5th and 9th Houses > > by signs produce uniformly good results, whether they are benefics or > > malefics. If they own the Trick houses, i.e. the 3rd, 6th and 11th > > houses by signs, they are always disposed towards evil. " > > > > IN KAS WE STUDY IT AS FOLLOWS > > > > 1st 5th and 9th are good irrsepective the are owned by benefics or > > malefics as in all cases of 5th and 9th they will trigger 12th apart > > from other house too. > > > > Now only Me and Ju might own 9th and 6th. > > > > Ve and Ma might own 1st and 6th together so sco lagna or taurus lagna > > > > no planet can own 3rd and 5th or 11th and 9th. > > > > Now in KAS we would go into further detail using Ashtakavarga to judge > > more closely who will the planet behave more like. Krushanji has > > given that for Mars and Venus especially when owning 6th house one > > must study the same keenly. > > > > Now this part is not covered in the write up in laghu parasari or the > > expectation is that one must know these things as fundamentals of > > Astrology as its given or indicated in the first few verses. > > > > The same or similar thing with the next verse where they say about > > planets owning trine and 3-6-11 simultaneously. > > > > Now, take Saturn and aries lagna so Sa will own 10th and 11th house. > > So Sa is not necessarily bad for all events. For 10th house it will > > become B and A for 3rd house so it will give hard work it will become > > C for 6th and D for 1st and E for 5th. > > > > Similarly Sa owning 3rd and 4th house so again you can study using > > ABCDE theory and it need not be the case that Sa is bad or evil. Take > > Sco lagna and Sa in 4th house then as per VA its sasa mahapurush yog. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > While I have laghu parasarai open and a few mins will write a few more > > > verses explanation.... it might be useful for some other students. > > > > > > " 36. Rahu-Ketu, if posited in a Trine or Angle and are not related to > > > any other planet, give good results during their main ruling period > > > and in the sub-period of a Yoga Karaka. " > > > > > > AS PER KAS > > > > > > We are saying Ra and Ke located in House D and E are eager to give > > > results. > > > > > > Now when Ra/Ke is placed in 1st house then it will become eager to > > > give result for 4th and 8th. > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 4th house can give marriage and good income > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 7th house can give good authority and wealth > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 10th house can give good status reputation and good luck > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th or 9th will trigger 12th house of moksh and enjoyment and > > > right in this life time. > > > > > > Ra/ke in 9th house will trigger 12th and 4th so good enjoymenet and > > > knowledge and assets > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th will trigger 12th and 8th house so good inheritance/death > > > and enjoyment. > > > > > > Ofcouse when Ra is in 9th then Ke is in 3rd and when Ra is in 5th then > > > Ketu is in 11th so thereby triggering 2 more houses atleast. > > > > > > Then you can add the SD portion to it i.e .Ra and Ke are Sd to Sign > > > lord AND NAK LORD and give predictions or timing accordingly based on > > > the points and status of the planet they represent. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > 6th is that of serve, so in modern context we can take it as job. > > > > 10th house is House C and 1st is A. > > > > > > > > So 10th is next generation and 10th and 6th will have same nakshtra > > > lords. > > > > > > > > So for Job, 6th house and for authority which is next generation of > > > > 6th is from 10th house. > > > > > > > > Now, you have asked a detailed question, so when studying for > Job, we > > > > take help of WS and study whats going on in 11th, 10th, 6th, like > > that. > > > > > > > > So say, one person has a job but he or she might change jobs for a > > > > higher paying job then in that case WS will reflect the same so 11th > > > > house power would trigger or if he or she is leaving a job to get > > > > higher authority and income then 10th and 11th will play a role > along > > > > with 6th so like that. > > > > > > > > But 6th house is job and 10th is authority. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. I think I get the drift of the logic. Now > > > > > looking at job timing, do you look at 6th as B or 10th > > > > > as B? > > > > > > > > > > I can also see how 11th lord dasha can give malefic > > > > > results as it is eager to give results of the 6th > > > > > house, which has all the negative implications > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Good question. > > > > > > > > > > > > Take 6th house as B. We say 6th house is most > > > > > > malefic right. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now 3rd house becomes D and 11th house becomes E. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, depending on what you are finding or the > > > > > > context its being used > > > > > > it can be good or bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > So now why Laghu prarashari has used 3-6-11 only. > > > > > > So that is D - B - E. > > > > > > > > > > > > Both 3rd and 11th are eager to give result for 6th > > > > > > and this is upachya > > > > > > theory and 3rd and 11th have diffence i.e. 3rd > > > > > > creates chance for 6th > > > > > > and 11th is after event. > > > > > > > > > > > > Say you are studying job timing so 3rd and 11th are > > > > > > eager to giving > > > > > > timing of event, now 3rd is also parakram and can be > > > > > > interpreted as > > > > > > giving or success in interview so that is " pre " > > > > > > event of 6th making > > > > > > chance and 11th is income so that starts after job. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you understand what I am trying to say above > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 > > > > > > > lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I > > > > > > am > > > > > > > curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets > > > > > > residing > > > > > > > in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari > > > > > > > planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed > > > > > > most > > > > > > > malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > > > > > > > > house. When planets > > > > > > > > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > > > > > > > > house they rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > result of that > > > > > > > > house is enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > the most malefic > > > > > > > > house so 7th from that is the most benefic > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There has been some discussion that you can look > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > in the archives > > > > > > > > when some people have showed surprise as in > > > > > > > > traditional VA, 12th house > > > > > > > > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > > > > > > > > enhanced and in VA they > > > > > > > > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > 6th house so again VRY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > the same time > > > > > > > > enhances results of 3rd house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > SPK > > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > > > > > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > had solved a chart > > > > > > > > > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > all in 12th house > > > > > > > > > > so the house that they all rule, the results > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > those get enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Dear Satish, Ash, There is a typo below. Read it as: " I want to see if originally was Shashtesh given and in course of time it became Astamesh or was it given as Shashtesh and someone translated that as Ashtamesh? " Thanks & Regards, Manu , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Satish, > > For this verse, from your book, can you tell me what does the book > read? Is there any sanskrit verse given in your book as well. > > From the internet hyperlink that I wrote these from, except > translation into english nothing else was given. > > I want to see if originally was Saptamesh given and in course of time > it became Astamesh or was it given as Saptamesh and someone translated > that as Ashtamesh? > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Laghu Parasarai says > > > > " 11. Mercury has less of this evil nature as compared to Venus; the > > Moon has much less than that of Mercury. The same way the Sun and the > > Moon are not evil being Asthmesh (lord of the 8th). " > > > > IN KAS WE SAY > > > > Mercury is more benefic than Venus for that you can see the total > > bindus in lesson one. Mercury has been allocated 54 benefic points > > and Venus has 52 benefic points. > > > > Moon hsa much less than that of Mercury it says, and if you check the > > bindus allocated to Moon its only 49 bindus or benefic points so > > compared to Mercury's 54, Moons is far less of 49. > > > > In KAS we say that Sun and Moon are not malefic as 6th lord or > > saptemesh but in laghu parasari its given for Ashtemesh. > > > > 6th house is what we take as most malefic and infact from 8th house we > > see death which is most auspicious event as per KAS and will happen in > > highest power planet or LoD or LoE etc. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Laghu prarasarai says > > > > > > " 6. All the planets owning Trines, i.e. the 1st, 5th and 9th Houses > > > by signs produce uniformly good results, whether they are benefics or > > > malefics. If they own the Trick houses, i.e. the 3rd, 6th and 11th > > > houses by signs, they are always disposed towards evil. " > > > > > > IN KAS WE STUDY IT AS FOLLOWS > > > > > > 1st 5th and 9th are good irrsepective the are owned by benefics or > > > malefics as in all cases of 5th and 9th they will trigger 12th apart > > > from other house too. > > > > > > Now only Me and Ju might own 9th and 6th. > > > > > > Ve and Ma might own 1st and 6th together so sco lagna or taurus lagna > > > > > > no planet can own 3rd and 5th or 11th and 9th. > > > > > > Now in KAS we would go into further detail using Ashtakavarga to judge > > > more closely who will the planet behave more like. Krushanji has > > > given that for Mars and Venus especially when owning 6th house one > > > must study the same keenly. > > > > > > Now this part is not covered in the write up in laghu parasari or the > > > expectation is that one must know these things as fundamentals of > > > Astrology as its given or indicated in the first few verses. > > > > > > The same or similar thing with the next verse where they say about > > > planets owning trine and 3-6-11 simultaneously. > > > > > > Now, take Saturn and aries lagna so Sa will own 10th and 11th house. > > > So Sa is not necessarily bad for all events. For 10th house it will > > > become B and A for 3rd house so it will give hard work it will become > > > C for 6th and D for 1st and E for 5th. > > > > > > Similarly Sa owning 3rd and 4th house so again you can study using > > > ABCDE theory and it need not be the case that Sa is bad or evil. Take > > > Sco lagna and Sa in 4th house then as per VA its sasa mahapurush > yog. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > While I have laghu parasarai open and a few mins will write a > few more > > > > verses explanation.... it might be useful for some other students. > > > > > > > > " 36. Rahu-Ketu, if posited in a Trine or Angle and are not > related to > > > > any other planet, give good results during their main ruling period > > > > and in the sub-period of a Yoga Karaka. " > > > > > > > > AS PER KAS > > > > > > > > We are saying Ra and Ke located in House D and E are eager to give > > > > results. > > > > > > > > Now when Ra/Ke is placed in 1st house then it will become eager to > > > > give result for 4th and 8th. > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 4th house can give marriage and good income > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 7th house can give good authority and wealth > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 10th house can give good status reputation and good luck > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th or 9th will trigger 12th house of moksh and > enjoyment and > > > > right in this life time. > > > > > > > > Ra/ke in 9th house will trigger 12th and 4th so good enjoymenet and > > > > knowledge and assets > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th will trigger 12th and 8th house so good > inheritance/death > > > > and enjoyment. > > > > > > > > Ofcouse when Ra is in 9th then Ke is in 3rd and when Ra is in > 5th then > > > > Ketu is in 11th so thereby triggering 2 more houses atleast. > > > > > > > > Then you can add the SD portion to it i.e .Ra and Ke are Sd to Sign > > > > lord AND NAK LORD and give predictions or timing accordingly > based on > > > > the points and status of the planet they represent. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > 6th is that of serve, so in modern context we can take it as job. > > > > > 10th house is House C and 1st is A. > > > > > > > > > > So 10th is next generation and 10th and 6th will have same > nakshtra > > > > lords. > > > > > > > > > > So for Job, 6th house and for authority which is next > generation of > > > > > 6th is from 10th house. > > > > > > > > > > Now, you have asked a detailed question, so when studying for > > Job, we > > > > > take help of WS and study whats going on in 11th, 10th, 6th, like > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > So say, one person has a job but he or she might change jobs for a > > > > > higher paying job then in that case WS will reflect the same > so 11th > > > > > house power would trigger or if he or she is leaving a job to get > > > > > higher authority and income then 10th and 11th will play a role > > along > > > > > with 6th so like that. > > > > > > > > > > But 6th house is job and 10th is authority. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. I think I get the drift of the logic. Now > > > > > > looking at job timing, do you look at 6th as B or 10th > > > > > > as B? > > > > > > > > > > > > I can also see how 11th lord dasha can give malefic > > > > > > results as it is eager to give results of the 6th > > > > > > house, which has all the negative implications > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Good question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take 6th house as B. We say 6th house is most > > > > > > > malefic right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now 3rd house becomes D and 11th house becomes E. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, depending on what you are finding or the > > > > > > > context its being used > > > > > > > it can be good or bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So now why Laghu prarashari has used 3-6-11 only. > > > > > > > So that is D - B - E. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both 3rd and 11th are eager to give result for 6th > > > > > > > and this is upachya > > > > > > > theory and 3rd and 11th have diffence i.e. 3rd > > > > > > > creates chance for 6th > > > > > > > and 11th is after event. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Say you are studying job timing so 3rd and 11th are > > > > > > > eager to giving > > > > > > > timing of event, now 3rd is also parakram and can be > > > > > > > interpreted as > > > > > > > giving or success in interview so that is " pre " > > > > > > > event of 6th making > > > > > > > chance and 11th is income so that starts after job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you understand what I am trying to say above > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 > > > > > > > > lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets > > > > > > > residing > > > > > > > > in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari > > > > > > > > planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > > > > > > > > > house. When planets > > > > > > > > > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > > > > > > > > > house they rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > result of that > > > > > > > > > house is enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > the most malefic > > > > > > > > > house so 7th from that is the most benefic > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There has been some discussion that you can look > > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > > in the archives > > > > > > > > > when some people have showed surprise as in > > > > > > > > > traditional VA, 12th house > > > > > > > > > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > > > > > > > > > enhanced and in VA they > > > > > > > > > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > 6th house so again VRY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > the same time > > > > > > > > > enhances results of 3rd house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > SPK > > > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > > > > > > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > had solved a chart > > > > > > > > > > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > all in 12th house > > > > > > > > > > > so the house that they all rule, the results > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > those get enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and > > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > > > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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