Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Dear Group, Francois seems busy or might be tied up in other things so I am giving the reply that I got on other list w.r.t our discussion in a summary manner. There after please read my mail given below. 1) The lady's chart in discussion died of a Massive Heart Attack after lung embolism. 2) She was kept in an artificial COMA for 2 days before she passed on. 3) She suffered from Diabetes for approx 20 years 4) For the last year she had to undergo Dialysis twice a week which had become more complicated towards the end. 5) She was morbidly obese and had eating disorder all her life. 6) She was courageous had a great sense of humor and down to earth sharpness and extremely generous. 7) She had ongoing conflict with her son 8) Deprived of affection and attention 9) She wanted to leave her body badly in the last month of her life. Please check my analysis given below as well. I am now even more happy with my rectification to get lagna at 0 Cn 03. What most of you overlooked was the t-13 or t+13 range. When you cast the chart and saw the dasha it was mars but if u study it carefully, you will notice that it can also be in Moon ending date + 13 day range as well. Granted both Mo and Ma can give death however I prefer to see it as Moon giving death and pdf of Ma-Ke (ketu in House D and Ma is LoD) becoming eager to furnish the timing of death. Also if you cast the daily points, you can see a surge DATE DAILY PTS. 7-Apr-07 192 8-Apr-07 192 9-Apr-07 201 10-Apr-07 201 So the points are in upward trend and going from RED to GREEN. So hopefully, next time all of you will carefully see the t+13 or t-13 range as well. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > Good question. Please re-study my mail carefully. I have given hints > in that. You have just overlooked a very basic point that we say in > our system at the same time something is striking you, why Moon has > not given the result. > > Yes, you can justify that Mars is LoD so it can give, but why you > think Moon has not given? > > Why do you think, I have rectified the time slightly? What are you > overlooking? > > But I am very happy, that you have questioned about Moon. > > Moon is LoE AND it has highest power and its placed in House E with 6 > bindus and its in shukla pax and its NSD to Mars who is LoE. > > So study this closely w.r.t timing. > > I am happy with your attempt. > > Now I will wait for Anup, Dadhi, Bala, Manu, Gita, Sindhu and others > to answer as well. > > If Francois can get other events as well, so many things can be checked. > > Ramesh, keep aside the MD and that portion, as we have not been taught. > > Yes, in one post that I was reading in the archives, Krushanji has > clearly mentioned that the antra of Death WILL BE 8TH HOUSE but MD can > be and that will show the karaktwa. > > Here for study purpose (keep aside how that is computed), Sun MD is > what caused death and Sun is SD to Me, Ma and Ju and Venus. > > Sun itself is 2nd lord and is linked to 3rd lord and and MA JU and VE. > So the reason of death you can find from that. > > Sun is in 4th house as well, so that might also be more prone for > Breathing problems, also in this chart its more prone for cancer, > Heart Attack. > > In any case, I did not want to go into so much detail so will stop > here and wait for Francois email to see if any such things happened. > That will be good study. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash and all, > > The death occured in the antara of Ma when Su was main lord. > > Su is 12th lord from 3rd house .LoB is Sa , LoA and LoC is Me for 8th. > > Sa is weak in 8th but strong in 3rd. Sa occupy lagna and combines > with Mo LoE for 8th. Sa aspects 3rd. > > Su is 12th lord for 3rd . Me LoA and LoC is very close to Ma LoD > in 4th house. > > Ju the 11th an upchaya lord from 8th joins this combination . > > Ju casts his malefic sight on 8th ( House A ) , 12TH (House C ) > and karak sthaan of 3rd. > > LoD Ma and LoE Mo both makes 4:10 relationship for the matter of 8th. > > Mo with 6 bindus is in 10th place from Ma with 3 bindus. So Ma is > culprit here and will go against his boss Mo. > > Mo has highest 20 points in WS as against Ma 13 points. So Ma > antara triggered as SD to Mo on 09 Apr 2007 when Su was transitting in > Pi and in the nak of Me. > > Me is LoA and LoC and Ju with strong 7 bindus was transitting in > House D for 8th. > > I would like to ask from the list members. > > When Mo antara was before Ma, then why Mo antara did not give the > event of death besides being the highest SAV points of 20 for 8th in WS ? > > But I could not understand why Su main gave death when the karak > for 8th is Me and he does not cast his aspect either on house A or B > or C.of 8th .? > > I think this points need more learning and clarification. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > This is the chart of the lady who has passed on. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > Is this chart of a lady whose sister died or, > > > the chart of sister who died ? > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > I came across this chart on another group. > > > > > > The lady's sister had died on 9th April 2007. > > > > > > The chart given was > > > > > > 17th Oct 1946 > > > 22:00 (was the birth time given, I rectified it to 21:55:50) > > > 52N27 > > > 13E19 > > > > > > Time zone of CET -01:00 > > > > > > Planet Degrees > > > As 0 Cn 3 > > > Su 1 Li 40 > > > Mo 5 Cn 41 > > > Ma 23 Li 42 > > > Me 22 Li 12 > > > Ju 12 Li 31 > > > Ve 8 Sc 20 > > > Sa 15 Cn 38 > > > Ra 21 Ta 55 > > > Ke 21 Sc 55 > > > > > > Please do not ask me any questions on this chart. > > > > > > If you all want you all can discuss our laws based on the hints > > > Krushnaji has given. > > > > > > Those who are interested can solve this chart using the laws of KAS > > > and you will know why I have posted this chart. > > > > > > Here a few things for your personal study. > > > > > > 1) Carefully study the antra based on our laws of KAS. > > > 2) Carefully note the pdf (keep in mind +/- 13 days range). > > > 3) Do you think death is possible with Gemini lagna. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Dear Group, Please read the following lines " Francois seems busy or might be tied up in other things so I am giving the reply that I got on other list w.r.t our discussion in a summary manner. " AS " Francois seems busy or might be tied up in other things so I am giving the reply that WAS POSTED ON OTHER LIST TO FANCOIS'S QUESTION WHICH HE HAD POSTED ON OTHER LIST w.r.t our discussion in a summary manner. " My apologies. The credit of asking the question must be given to Francois. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Group, > > Francois seems busy or might be tied up in other things so I am giving > the reply that I got on other list w.r.t our discussion in a summary > manner. > > There after please read my mail given below. > > > 1) The lady's chart in discussion died of a Massive Heart Attack after > lung embolism. > 2) She was kept in an artificial COMA for 2 days before she passed on. > 3) She suffered from Diabetes for approx 20 years > 4) For the last year she had to undergo Dialysis twice a week which > had become more complicated towards the end. > 5) She was morbidly obese and had eating disorder all her life. > 6) She was courageous had a great sense of humor and down to earth > sharpness and extremely generous. > 7) She had ongoing conflict with her son > 8) Deprived of affection and attention > 9) She wanted to leave her body badly in the last month of her life. > > > Please check my analysis given below as well. > > I am now even more happy with my rectification to get lagna at 0 Cn 03. > > What most of you overlooked was the t-13 or t+13 range. > > When you cast the chart and saw the dasha it was mars but if u study > it carefully, you will notice that it can also be in Moon ending date > + 13 day range as well. > > Granted both Mo and Ma can give death however I prefer to see it as > Moon giving death and pdf of Ma-Ke (ketu in House D and Ma is LoD) > becoming eager to furnish the timing of death. > > Also if you cast the daily points, you can see a surge > > DATE DAILY PTS. > 7-Apr-07 192 > 8-Apr-07 192 > 9-Apr-07 201 > 10-Apr-07 201 > > So the points are in upward trend and going from RED to GREEN. > > So hopefully, next time all of you will carefully see the t+13 or t-13 > range as well. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Good question. Please re-study my mail carefully. I have given hints > > in that. You have just overlooked a very basic point that we say in > > our system at the same time something is striking you, why Moon has > > not given the result. > > > > Yes, you can justify that Mars is LoD so it can give, but why you > > think Moon has not given? > > > > Why do you think, I have rectified the time slightly? What are you > > overlooking? > > > > But I am very happy, that you have questioned about Moon. > > > > Moon is LoE AND it has highest power and its placed in House E with 6 > > bindus and its in shukla pax and its NSD to Mars who is LoE. > > > > So study this closely w.r.t timing. > > > > I am happy with your attempt. > > > > Now I will wait for Anup, Dadhi, Bala, Manu, Gita, Sindhu and others > > to answer as well. > > > > If Francois can get other events as well, so many things can be > checked. > > > > Ramesh, keep aside the MD and that portion, as we have not been taught. > > > > Yes, in one post that I was reading in the archives, Krushanji has > > clearly mentioned that the antra of Death WILL BE 8TH HOUSE but MD can > > be and that will show the karaktwa. > > > > Here for study purpose (keep aside how that is computed), Sun MD is > > what caused death and Sun is SD to Me, Ma and Ju and Venus. > > > > Sun itself is 2nd lord and is linked to 3rd lord and and MA JU and VE. > > So the reason of death you can find from that. > > > > Sun is in 4th house as well, so that might also be more prone for > > Breathing problems, also in this chart its more prone for cancer, > > Heart Attack. > > > > In any case, I did not want to go into so much detail so will stop > > here and wait for Francois email to see if any such things happened. > > That will be good study. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash and all, > > > The death occured in the antara of Ma when Su was main lord. > > > Su is 12th lord from 3rd house .LoB is Sa , LoA and LoC is Me > for 8th. > > > Sa is weak in 8th but strong in 3rd. Sa occupy lagna and combines > > with Mo LoE for 8th. Sa aspects 3rd. > > > Su is 12th lord for 3rd . Me LoA and LoC is very close to Ma LoD > > in 4th house. > > > Ju the 11th an upchaya lord from 8th joins this combination . > > > Ju casts his malefic sight on 8th ( House A ) , 12TH (House C ) > > and karak sthaan of 3rd. > > > LoD Ma and LoE Mo both makes 4:10 relationship for the matter of > 8th. > > > Mo with 6 bindus is in 10th place from Ma with 3 bindus. So Ma is > > culprit here and will go against his boss Mo. > > > Mo has highest 20 points in WS as against Ma 13 points. So Ma > > antara triggered as SD to Mo on 09 Apr 2007 when Su was transitting in > > Pi and in the nak of Me. > > > Me is LoA and LoC and Ju with strong 7 bindus was transitting in > > House D for 8th. > > > I would like to ask from the list members. > > > When Mo antara was before Ma, then why Mo antara did not give the > > event of death besides being the highest SAV points of 20 for 8th in > WS ? > > > But I could not understand why Su main gave death when the karak > > for 8th is Me and he does not cast his aspect either on house A or B > > or C.of 8th .? > > > I think this points need more learning and clarification. > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > This is the chart of the lady who has passed on. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Is this chart of a lady whose sister died or, > > > > the chart of sister who died ? > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > I came across this chart on another group. > > > > > > > > The lady's sister had died on 9th April 2007. > > > > > > > > The chart given was > > > > > > > > 17th Oct 1946 > > > > 22:00 (was the birth time given, I rectified it to 21:55:50) > > > > 52N27 > > > > 13E19 > > > > > > > > Time zone of CET -01:00 > > > > > > > > Planet Degrees > > > > As 0 Cn 3 > > > > Su 1 Li 40 > > > > Mo 5 Cn 41 > > > > Ma 23 Li 42 > > > > Me 22 Li 12 > > > > Ju 12 Li 31 > > > > Ve 8 Sc 20 > > > > Sa 15 Cn 38 > > > > Ra 21 Ta 55 > > > > Ke 21 Sc 55 > > > > > > > > Please do not ask me any questions on this chart. > > > > > > > > If you all want you all can discuss our laws based on the hints > > > > Krushnaji has given. > > > > > > > > Those who are interested can solve this chart using the laws of KAS > > > > and you will know why I have posted this chart. > > > > > > > > Here a few things for your personal study. > > > > > > > > 1) Carefully study the antra based on our laws of KAS. > > > > 2) Carefully note the pdf (keep in mind +/- 13 days range). > > > > 3) Do you think death is possible with Gemini lagna. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Dear Ash, Thanxs for the detail.Yes i too, overlooked the t+13,t-13 , Moon giving death in its antra too:) like Mars. I think, i also go for Mars & Ketu becoming eager to furnish the death as per PDF. Small points matters a lot in such a chart. We sld study the incidents now in this chart given by you Thanxs Ash Regards Anup ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Group, Francois seems busy or might be tied up in other things so I am giving the reply that I got on other list w.r.t our discussion in a summary manner. There after please read my mail given below. 1) The lady's chart in discussion died of a Massive Heart Attack after lung embolism. 2) She was kept in an artificial COMA for 2 days before she passed on. 3) She suffered from Diabetes for approx 20 years 4) For the last year she had to undergo Dialysis twice a week which had become more complicated towards the end. 5) She was morbidly obese and had eating disorder all her life. 6) She was courageous had a great sense of humor and down to earth sharpness and extremely generous. 7) She had ongoing conflict with her son 8) Deprived of affection and attention 9) She wanted to leave her body badly in the last month of her life. Please check my analysis given below as well. I am now even more happy with my rectification to get lagna at 0 Cn 03. What most of you overlooked was the t-13 or t+13 range. When you cast the chart and saw the dasha it was mars but if u study it carefully, you will notice that it can also be in Moon ending date + 13 day range as well. Granted both Mo and Ma can give death however I prefer to see it as Moon giving death and pdf of Ma-Ke (ketu in House D and Ma is LoD) becoming eager to furnish the timing of death. Also if you cast the daily points, you can see a surge DATE DAILY PTS. 7-Apr-07 192 8-Apr-07 192 9-Apr-07 201 10-Apr-07 201 So the points are in upward trend and going from RED to GREEN. So hopefully, next time all of you will carefully see the t+13 or t-13 range as well. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > Good question. Please re-study my mail carefully. I have given hints > in that. You have just overlooked a very basic point that we say in > our system at the same time something is striking you, why Moon has > not given the result. > > Yes, you can justify that Mars is LoD so it can give, but why you > think Moon has not given? > > Why do you think, I have rectified the time slightly? What are you > overlooking? > > But I am very happy, that you have questioned about Moon. > > Moon is LoE AND it has highest power and its placed in House E with 6 > bindus and its in shukla pax and its NSD to Mars who is LoE. > > So study this closely w.r.t timing. > > I am happy with your attempt. > > Now I will wait for Anup, Dadhi, Bala, Manu, Gita, Sindhu and others > to answer as well. > > If Francois can get other events as well, so many things can be checked. > > Ramesh, keep aside the MD and that portion, as we have not been taught. > > Yes, in one post that I was reading in the archives, Krushanji has > clearly mentioned that the antra of Death WILL BE 8TH HOUSE but MD can > be and that will show the karaktwa. > > Here for study purpose (keep aside how that is computed), Sun MD is > what caused death and Sun is SD to Me, Ma and Ju and Venus. > > Sun itself is 2nd lord and is linked to 3rd lord and and MA JU and VE. > So the reason of death you can find from that. > > Sun is in 4th house as well, so that might also be more prone for > Breathing problems, also in this chart its more prone for cancer, > Heart Attack. > > In any case, I did not want to go into so much detail so will stop > here and wait for Francois email to see if any such things happened. > That will be good study. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash and all, > > The death occured in the antara of Ma when Su was main lord. > > Su is 12th lord from 3rd house .LoB is Sa , LoA and LoC is Me for 8th. > > Sa is weak in 8th but strong in 3rd. Sa occupy lagna and combines > with Mo LoE for 8th. Sa aspects 3rd. > > Su is 12th lord for 3rd . Me LoA and LoC is very close to Ma LoD > in 4th house. > > Ju the 11th an upchaya lord from 8th joins this combination . > > Ju casts his malefic sight on 8th ( House A ) , 12TH (House C ) > and karak sthaan of 3rd. > > LoD Ma and LoE Mo both makes 4:10 relationship for the matter of 8th. > > Mo with 6 bindus is in 10th place from Ma with 3 bindus. So Ma is > culprit here and will go against his boss Mo. > > Mo has highest 20 points in WS as against Ma 13 points. So Ma > antara triggered as SD to Mo on 09 Apr 2007 when Su was transitting in > Pi and in the nak of Me. > > Me is LoA and LoC and Ju with strong 7 bindus was transitting in > House D for 8th. > > I would like to ask from the list members. > > When Mo antara was before Ma, then why Mo antara did not give the > event of death besides being the highest SAV points of 20 for 8th in WS ? > > But I could not understand why Su main gave death when the karak > for 8th is Me and he does not cast his aspect either on house A or B > or C.of 8th .? > > I think this points need more learning and clarification. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > This is the chart of the lady who has passed on. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > Is this chart of a lady whose sister died or, > > > the chart of sister who died ? > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > I came across this chart on another group. > > > > > > The lady's sister had died on 9th April 2007. > > > > > > The chart given was > > > > > > 17th Oct 1946 > > > 22:00 (was the birth time given, I rectified it to 21:55:50) > > > 52N27 > > > 13E19 > > > > > > Time zone of CET -01:00 > > > > > > Planet Degrees > > > As 0 Cn 3 > > > Su 1 Li 40 > > > Mo 5 Cn 41 > > > Ma 23 Li 42 > > > Me 22 Li 12 > > > Ju 12 Li 31 > > > Ve 8 Sc 20 > > > Sa 15 Cn 38 > > > Ra 21 Ta 55 > > > Ke 21 Sc 55 > > > > > > Please do not ask me any questions on this chart. > > > > > > If you all want you all can discuss our laws based on the hints > > > Krushnaji has given. > > > > > > Those who are interested can solve this chart using the laws of KAS > > > and you will know why I have posted this chart. > > > > > > Here a few things for your personal study. > > > > > > 1) Carefully study the antra based on our laws of KAS. > > > 2) Carefully note the pdf (keep in mind +/- 13 days range). > > > 3) Do you think death is possible with Gemini lagna. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Dear Ash, I forget to write few words here that as death in KAS is treated as MOST auspicious event, As such, daily points are also in rising order as you mention 192,192,201, and 201. So death occured in daily points 201 which is more than 196 points, which are considered good. But how we can assess few things like... 1 She was deprived of affection and attention Is this due to that her 3rd and 4th house are weak? 2 She had conflict with her son 5th house having 20points in summary chart, and only Sun and Venus are eligible, having more than 12 points in 5th house. I know u have not allowed to ask any question but i hope like this we can learn more. regards ANUP ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Group, Francois seems busy or might be tied up in other things so I am giving the reply that I got on other list w.r.t our discussion in a summary manner. There after please read my mail given below. 1) The lady's chart in discussion died of a Massive Heart Attack after lung embolism. 2) She was kept in an artificial COMA for 2 days before she passed on. 3) She suffered from Diabetes for approx 20 years 4) For the last year she had to undergo Dialysis twice a week which had become more complicated towards the end. 5) She was morbidly obese and had eating disorder all her life. 6) She was courageous had a great sense of humor and down to earth sharpness and extremely generous. 7) She had ongoing conflict with her son 8) Deprived of affection and attention 9) She wanted to leave her body badly in the last month of her life. Please check my analysis given below as well. I am now even more happy with my rectification to get lagna at 0 Cn 03. What most of you overlooked was the t-13 or t+13 range. When you cast the chart and saw the dasha it was mars but if u study it carefully, you will notice that it can also be in Moon ending date + 13 day range as well. Granted both Mo and Ma can give death however I prefer to see it as Moon giving death and pdf of Ma-Ke (ketu in House D and Ma is LoD) becoming eager to furnish the timing of death. Also if you cast the daily points, you can see a surge DATE DAILY PTS. 7-Apr-07 192 8-Apr-07 192 9-Apr-07 201 10-Apr-07 201 So the points are in upward trend and going from RED to GREEN. So hopefully, next time all of you will carefully see the t+13 or t-13 range as well. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > Good question. Please re-study my mail carefully. I have given hints > in that. You have just overlooked a very basic point that we say in > our system at the same time something is striking you, why Moon has > not given the result. > > Yes, you can justify that Mars is LoD so it can give, but why you > think Moon has not given? > > Why do you think, I have rectified the time slightly? What are you > overlooking? > > But I am very happy, that you have questioned about Moon. > > Moon is LoE AND it has highest power and its placed in House E with 6 > bindus and its in shukla pax and its NSD to Mars who is LoE. > > So study this closely w.r.t timing. > > I am happy with your attempt. > > Now I will wait for Anup, Dadhi, Bala, Manu, Gita, Sindhu and others > to answer as well. > > If Francois can get other events as well, so many things can be checked. > > Ramesh, keep aside the MD and that portion, as we have not been taught. > > Yes, in one post that I was reading in the archives, Krushanji has > clearly mentioned that the antra of Death WILL BE 8TH HOUSE but MD can > be and that will show the karaktwa. > > Here for study purpose (keep aside how that is computed), Sun MD is > what caused death and Sun is SD to Me, Ma and Ju and Venus. > > Sun itself is 2nd lord and is linked to 3rd lord and and MA JU and VE. > So the reason of death you can find from that. > > Sun is in 4th house as well, so that might also be more prone for > Breathing problems, also in this chart its more prone for cancer, > Heart Attack. > > In any case, I did not want to go into so much detail so will stop > here and wait for Francois email to see if any such things happened. > That will be good study. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash and all, > > The death occured in the antara of Ma when Su was main lord. > > Su is 12th lord from 3rd house .LoB is Sa , LoA and LoC is Me for 8th. > > Sa is weak in 8th but strong in 3rd. Sa occupy lagna and combines > with Mo LoE for 8th. Sa aspects 3rd. > > Su is 12th lord for 3rd . Me LoA and LoC is very close to Ma LoD > in 4th house. > > Ju the 11th an upchaya lord from 8th joins this combination . > > Ju casts his malefic sight on 8th ( House A ) , 12TH (House C ) > and karak sthaan of 3rd. > > LoD Ma and LoE Mo both makes 4:10 relationship for the matter of 8th. > > Mo with 6 bindus is in 10th place from Ma with 3 bindus. So Ma is > culprit here and will go against his boss Mo. > > Mo has highest 20 points in WS as against Ma 13 points. So Ma > antara triggered as SD to Mo on 09 Apr 2007 when Su was transitting in > Pi and in the nak of Me. > > Me is LoA and LoC and Ju with strong 7 bindus was transitting in > House D for 8th. > > I would like to ask from the list members. > > When Mo antara was before Ma, then why Mo antara did not give the > event of death besides being the highest SAV points of 20 for 8th in WS ? > > But I could not understand why Su main gave death when the karak > for 8th is Me and he does not cast his aspect either on house A or B > or C.of 8th .? > > I think this points need more learning and clarification. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > This is the chart of the lady who has passed on. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > Is this chart of a lady whose sister died or, > > > the chart of sister who died ? > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > I came across this chart on another group. > > > > > > The lady's sister had died on 9th April 2007. > > > > > > The chart given was > > > > > > 17th Oct 1946 > > > 22:00 (was the birth time given, I rectified it to 21:55:50) > > > 52N27 > > > 13E19 > > > > > > Time zone of CET -01:00 > > > > > > Planet Degrees > > > As 0 Cn 3 > > > Su 1 Li 40 > > > Mo 5 Cn 41 > > > Ma 23 Li 42 > > > Me 22 Li 12 > > > Ju 12 Li 31 > > > Ve 8 Sc 20 > > > Sa 15 Cn 38 > > > Ra 21 Ta 55 > > > Ke 21 Sc 55 > > > > > > Please do not ask me any questions on this chart. > > > > > > If you all want you all can discuss our laws based on the hints > > > Krushnaji has given. > > > > > > Those who are interested can solve this chart using the laws of KAS > > > and you will know why I have posted this chart. > > > > > > Here a few things for your personal study. > > > > > > 1) Carefully study the antra based on our laws of KAS. > > > 2) Carefully note the pdf (keep in mind +/- 13 days range). > > > 3) Do you think death is possible with Gemini lagna. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Dear Ash, Thanxs for the detail.Yes i too, overlooked the t+13,t-13 , Moon giving death in its antra too:) like Mars. I think, i also go for Mars & Ketu becoming eager to furnish the death as per PDF. Small points matters a lot in such a chart. We sld study the incidents now in this chart given by you Thanxs Ash Regards anup ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Group, Francois seems busy or might be tied up in other things so I am giving the reply that I got on other list w.r.t our discussion in a summary manner. There after please read my mail given below. 1) The lady's chart in discussion died of a Massive Heart Attack after lung embolism. 2) She was kept in an artificial COMA for 2 days before she passed on. 3) She suffered from Diabetes for approx 20 years 4) For the last year she had to undergo Dialysis twice a week which had become more complicated towards the end. 5) She was morbidly obese and had eating disorder all her life. 6) She was courageous had a great sense of humor and down to earth sharpness and extremely generous. 7) She had ongoing conflict with her son 8) Deprived of affection and attention 9) She wanted to leave her body badly in the last month of her life. Please check my analysis given below as well. I am now even more happy with my rectification to get lagna at 0 Cn 03. What most of you overlooked was the t-13 or t+13 range. When you cast the chart and saw the dasha it was mars but if u study it carefully, you will notice that it can also be in Moon ending date + 13 day range as well. Granted both Mo and Ma can give death however I prefer to see it as Moon giving death and pdf of Ma-Ke (ketu in House D and Ma is LoD) becoming eager to furnish the timing of death. Also if you cast the daily points, you can see a surge DATE DAILY PTS. 7-Apr-07 192 8-Apr-07 192 9-Apr-07 201 10-Apr-07 201 So the points are in upward trend and going from RED to GREEN. So hopefully, next time all of you will carefully see the t+13 or t-13 range as well. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > Good question. Please re-study my mail carefully. I have given hints > in that. You have just overlooked a very basic point that we say in > our system at the same time something is striking you, why Moon has > not given the result. > > Yes, you can justify that Mars is LoD so it can give, but why you > think Moon has not given? > > Why do you think, I have rectified the time slightly? What are you > overlooking? > > But I am very happy, that you have questioned about Moon. > > Moon is LoE AND it has highest power and its placed in House E with 6 > bindus and its in shukla pax and its NSD to Mars who is LoE. > > So study this closely w.r.t timing. > > I am happy with your attempt. > > Now I will wait for Anup, Dadhi, Bala, Manu, Gita, Sindhu and others > to answer as well. > > If Francois can get other events as well, so many things can be checked. > > Ramesh, keep aside the MD and that portion, as we have not been taught. > > Yes, in one post that I was reading in the archives, Krushanji has > clearly mentioned that the antra of Death WILL BE 8TH HOUSE but MD can > be and that will show the karaktwa. > > Here for study purpose (keep aside how that is computed), Sun MD is > what caused death and Sun is SD to Me, Ma and Ju and Venus. > > Sun itself is 2nd lord and is linked to 3rd lord and and MA JU and VE. > So the reason of death you can find from that. > > Sun is in 4th house as well, so that might also be more prone for > Breathing problems, also in this chart its more prone for cancer, > Heart Attack. > > In any case, I did not want to go into so much detail so will stop > here and wait for Francois email to see if any such things happened. > That will be good study. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash and all, > > The death occured in the antara of Ma when Su was main lord. > > Su is 12th lord from 3rd house .LoB is Sa , LoA and LoC is Me for 8th. > > Sa is weak in 8th but strong in 3rd. Sa occupy lagna and combines > with Mo LoE for 8th. Sa aspects 3rd. > > Su is 12th lord for 3rd . Me LoA and LoC is very close to Ma LoD > in 4th house. > > Ju the 11th an upchaya lord from 8th joins this combination . > > Ju casts his malefic sight on 8th ( House A ) , 12TH (House C ) > and karak sthaan of 3rd. > > LoD Ma and LoE Mo both makes 4:10 relationship for the matter of 8th. > > Mo with 6 bindus is in 10th place from Ma with 3 bindus. So Ma is > culprit here and will go against his boss Mo. > > Mo has highest 20 points in WS as against Ma 13 points. So Ma > antara triggered as SD to Mo on 09 Apr 2007 when Su was transitting in > Pi and in the nak of Me. > > Me is LoA and LoC and Ju with strong 7 bindus was transitting in > House D for 8th. > > I would like to ask from the list members. > > When Mo antara was before Ma, then why Mo antara did not give the > event of death besides being the highest SAV points of 20 for 8th in WS ? > > But I could not understand why Su main gave death when the karak > for 8th is Me and he does not cast his aspect either on house A or B > or C.of 8th .? > > I think this points need more learning and clarification. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > This is the chart of the lady who has passed on. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > Is this chart of a lady whose sister died or, > > > the chart of sister who died ? > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > I came across this chart on another group. > > > > > > The lady's sister had died on 9th April 2007. > > > > > > The chart given was > > > > > > 17th Oct 1946 > > > 22:00 (was the birth time given, I rectified it to 21:55:50) > > > 52N27 > > > 13E19 > > > > > > Time zone of CET -01:00 > > > > > > Planet Degrees > > > As 0 Cn 3 > > > Su 1 Li 40 > > > Mo 5 Cn 41 > > > Ma 23 Li 42 > > > Me 22 Li 12 > > > Ju 12 Li 31 > > > Ve 8 Sc 20 > > > Sa 15 Cn 38 > > > Ra 21 Ta 55 > > > Ke 21 Sc 55 > > > > > > Please do not ask me any questions on this chart. > > > > > > If you all want you all can discuss our laws based on the hints > > > Krushnaji has given. > > > > > > Those who are interested can solve this chart using the laws of KAS > > > and you will know why I have posted this chart. > > > > > > Here a few things for your personal study. > > > > > > 1) Carefully study the antra based on our laws of KAS. > > > 2) Carefully note the pdf (keep in mind +/- 13 days range). > > > 3) Do you think death is possible with Gemini lagna. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Dear Anup, For such things, we should study the full chart and I don't feel good going into that and I think you can understand that. In any case, may her soul rest in peace. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > I forget to write few words here that as death in KAS is treated as MOST auspicious event, > As such, daily points are also in rising order as you mention 192,192,201, and 201. > So death occured in daily points 201 which is more than 196 points, which are considered good. > But how we can assess few things like... > 1 She was deprived of affection and attention > Is this due to that her 3rd and 4th house are weak? > 2 She had conflict with her son > > 5th house having 20points in summary chart, and only Sun and Venus are eligible, having more than 12 points in 5th house. > > I know u have not allowed to ask any question but i hope like this we can learn more. > regards > ANUP ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Group, > > Francois seems busy or might be tied up in other things so I am giving > the reply that I got on other list w.r.t our discussion in a summary > manner. > > There after please read my mail given below. > > 1) The lady's chart in discussion died of a Massive Heart Attack after > lung embolism. > 2) She was kept in an artificial COMA for 2 days before she passed on. > 3) She suffered from Diabetes for approx 20 years > 4) For the last year she had to undergo Dialysis twice a week which > had become more complicated towards the end. > 5) She was morbidly obese and had eating disorder all her life. > 6) She was courageous had a great sense of humor and down to earth > sharpness and extremely generous. > 7) She had ongoing conflict with her son > 8) Deprived of affection and attention > 9) She wanted to leave her body badly in the last month of her life. > > Please check my analysis given below as well. > > I am now even more happy with my rectification to get lagna at 0 Cn 03. > > What most of you overlooked was the t-13 or t+13 range. > > When you cast the chart and saw the dasha it was mars but if u study > it carefully, you will notice that it can also be in Moon ending date > + 13 day range as well. > > Granted both Mo and Ma can give death however I prefer to see it as > Moon giving death and pdf of Ma-Ke (ketu in House D and Ma is LoD) > becoming eager to furnish the timing of death. > > Also if you cast the daily points, you can see a surge > > DATE DAILY PTS. > 7-Apr-07 192 > 8-Apr-07 192 > 9-Apr-07 201 > 10-Apr-07 201 > > So the points are in upward trend and going from RED to GREEN. > > So hopefully, next time all of you will carefully see the t+13 or t-13 > range as well. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Good question. Please re-study my mail carefully. I have given hints > > in that. You have just overlooked a very basic point that we say in > > our system at the same time something is striking you, why Moon has > > not given the result. > > > > Yes, you can justify that Mars is LoD so it can give, but why you > > think Moon has not given? > > > > Why do you think, I have rectified the time slightly? What are you > > overlooking? > > > > But I am very happy, that you have questioned about Moon. > > > > Moon is LoE AND it has highest power and its placed in House E with 6 > > bindus and its in shukla pax and its NSD to Mars who is LoE. > > > > So study this closely w.r.t timing. > > > > I am happy with your attempt. > > > > Now I will wait for Anup, Dadhi, Bala, Manu, Gita, Sindhu and others > > to answer as well. > > > > If Francois can get other events as well, so many things can be > checked. > > > > Ramesh, keep aside the MD and that portion, as we have not been taught. > > > > Yes, in one post that I was reading in the archives, Krushanji has > > clearly mentioned that the antra of Death WILL BE 8TH HOUSE but MD can > > be and that will show the karaktwa. > > > > Here for study purpose (keep aside how that is computed), Sun MD is > > what caused death and Sun is SD to Me, Ma and Ju and Venus. > > > > Sun itself is 2nd lord and is linked to 3rd lord and and MA JU and VE. > > So the reason of death you can find from that. > > > > Sun is in 4th house as well, so that might also be more prone for > > Breathing problems, also in this chart its more prone for cancer, > > Heart Attack. > > > > In any case, I did not want to go into so much detail so will stop > > here and wait for Francois email to see if any such things happened. > > That will be good study. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash and all, > > > The death occured in the antara of Ma when Su was main lord. > > > Su is 12th lord from 3rd house .LoB is Sa , LoA and LoC is Me > for 8th. > > > Sa is weak in 8th but strong in 3rd. Sa occupy lagna and combines > > with Mo LoE for 8th. Sa aspects 3rd. > > > Su is 12th lord for 3rd . Me LoA and LoC is very close to Ma LoD > > in 4th house. > > > Ju the 11th an upchaya lord from 8th joins this combination . > > > Ju casts his malefic sight on 8th ( House A ) , 12TH (House C ) > > and karak sthaan of 3rd. > > > LoD Ma and LoE Mo both makes 4:10 relationship for the matter of > 8th. > > > Mo with 6 bindus is in 10th place from Ma with 3 bindus. So Ma is > > culprit here and will go against his boss Mo. > > > Mo has highest 20 points in WS as against Ma 13 points. So Ma > > antara triggered as SD to Mo on 09 Apr 2007 when Su was transitting in > > Pi and in the nak of Me. > > > Me is LoA and LoC and Ju with strong 7 bindus was transitting in > > House D for 8th. > > > I would like to ask from the list members. > > > When Mo antara was before Ma, then why Mo antara did not give the > > event of death besides being the highest SAV points of 20 for 8th in > WS ? > > > But I could not understand why Su main gave death when the karak > > for 8th is Me and he does not cast his aspect either on house A or B > > or C.of 8th .? > > > I think this points need more learning and clarification. > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > This is the chart of the lady who has passed on. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Is this chart of a lady whose sister died or, > > > > the chart of sister who died ? > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > I came across this chart on another group. > > > > > > > > The lady's sister had died on 9th April 2007. > > > > > > > > The chart given was > > > > > > > > 17th Oct 1946 > > > > 22:00 (was the birth time given, I rectified it to 21:55:50) > > > > 52N27 > > > > 13E19 > > > > > > > > Time zone of CET -01:00 > > > > > > > > Planet Degrees > > > > As 0 Cn 3 > > > > Su 1 Li 40 > > > > Mo 5 Cn 41 > > > > Ma 23 Li 42 > > > > Me 22 Li 12 > > > > Ju 12 Li 31 > > > > Ve 8 Sc 20 > > > > Sa 15 Cn 38 > > > > Ra 21 Ta 55 > > > > Ke 21 Sc 55 > > > > > > > > Please do not ask me any questions on this chart. > > > > > > > > If you all want you all can discuss our laws based on the hints > > > > Krushnaji has given. > > > > > > > > Those who are interested can solve this chart using the laws of KAS > > > > and you will know why I have posted this chart. > > > > > > > > Here a few things for your personal study. > > > > > > > > 1) Carefully study the antra based on our laws of KAS. > > > > 2) Carefully note the pdf (keep in mind +/- 13 days range). > > > > 3) Do you think death is possible with Gemini lagna. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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