Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Dear Group, Krushnaji has explained this chart to Manu and Myself in great detail. Please hang in there for Manu is write a detailed post explaining the chart. Stay tuned ! Cheers !!! Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Dear Group, Ash and I had a detailed discussion with Krushnaji on this chart. Details of the native are: Sex: Female Date of Birth: 9 Oct 1957 Time of Birth: 6:24am (given), 6:27:17am (rectified by krushnaji) Place of Birth: Bangalore Latitude: 12N59 Longitude: 77E35 Zone: IST 5.5 (East of GMT) DST: No Both Ash and I were amazed (as is usually the case) when Krushnaji had a brief look at the chart and indicated Ke antra for marriage. He also hinted that we need to rectify the birth time to 6:27:17am. Now, although with the rectified birth time, ve/ke only starts in July 1990, he indicated that June timeframe may have given the marriage due to +/- 13 days offset. And moreoever, on the negative side due to blessings. Marriage is a 5th, 7th and 12th house affair and if we see the WS, all the planets except ve are too low for 12th house. Also, Ve/Ve antra happened too early in life. Moreover, due to Sa sectors the native is quite brilliant and might have more interest in studies. She is also loved by her father (see relative placement of 1st and 9th) and hence must have got freedom to study. Now, ke antra is like ve and ma. Both ve and ma are good for 7th house, while ve is good for all 5th, 7th and 12th houses so must have given marriage. Now, even with the rectified time, sa is in 5th house in navamsa hence there is full delay with no moderation due to jupiter and no ju delay. Sa delay ends on 29 Sep 1982. Here 2 sectors of jupiter remain after delay and ju is not delay causing and it's antra is in delay period, hence will not give the event although Ju is LoD for 7th house. Next is sa and me antra. Both are weak for 5th, 7th, 12th house triplet hence disqualified. Ke is SD to ve and ma. Ve is strong for all 5th, 7th and 12th house hence will give the event. Here Ash and I had a couple of questions viz: Q1. Ve to su distance is 43 and ve is with sa and sa aspects moon too, so why we chose highest points? Shouldn't marriage be unhappy? Answer: Marriage is unhappy that is fine, but it is not showing quarrel or dispute. Also if we add the points for marriage it is 30 and the chart has blessings too which does not show divorce. Hence, we chose high points. Here the key in the chart is that the delays can also be due to the power of the planets in the WS, not just due to sa, ju or zeroes in the chart. Q2: Here Sa is delay causing, so why first sector gave event? Answer: Sa is delay causing, but ve is NSD to sa and powerful for 5th, 7th and 12th. Hence, the marriage happened as soon as the powerful antra started. There was another important clarification that Krushnaji provided regarding Sa delay: For Sa delay we consider the transit of Saturn into the previous sign as the end of delay. For example in this case, Sa is in scorpio sign so we consider the delay of Saturn to be till Sa completes one round and crosses from vir to lib. However, in some cases Sa after crossing becomes retro and may move back from lib to vir. In such cases when Sa becomes retro, we consider the case when Sa crosses from vir to lib the second time. That means the crossing should be full and final. This is a little different from what all of us have been using for sa delay. --\ -- Sindhu, can you please provide the following details for this chart: 1. Sex of native's child. 2. What was the reason that her husband had her shut down the business. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Group, > > Krushnaji has explained this chart to Manu and Myself in great detail. > > Please hang in there for Manu is write a detailed post explaining the > chart. > > Stay tuned ! > > Cheers !!! > Ash > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Dear Group, Manu a good summary. Yes If I may add a point. For why Ketu's first sector gave marriage, Krushnaji had explained that one must study psychology as well. When marriage is so much delayed then at that time, our laws might have to be understood with respect to psychology. So here after so much delay, then when a person is ready mentally at that time marriage can happen. Here, Sa and Me could not give marriage due to having low power so once Ketu antra came, and the native was ready so it gave the result pronto. So that is also an important thing. Manu has highlighted the important point about delay caused by Saturn is that Saturn must be fully into a sign (means it should not retro and go back into the previous sign) so that entry point must be taken when Saturn is full and final into the sign as delay getting over date. Yes, also one more point which is that there is a blessing in this chart albeit its weakened due to 6th lord but still, that might also cause the native not to break this marriage. So there is no divorce indicated, there is also a child so marriage will not happen in lowest power planet. So here Ketu is more like Venus so it will give once it gets chance. Sa and Me cannot give and Ju period cant give as most of it has passed or at that time the native might not be interested in marriage due to her interest in growing business. Thanks Sindhu for bringing up this chart and thanks to Krushanji for clarifying this for us. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear Group, > > Ash and I had a detailed discussion with Krushnaji on > this chart. > > Details of the native are: > Sex: Female > Date of Birth: 9 Oct 1957 > Time of Birth: 6:24am (given), 6:27:17am (rectified by > krushnaji) > Place of Birth: Bangalore > Latitude: 12N59 > Longitude: 77E35 > Zone: IST 5.5 (East of GMT) > DST: No > > Both Ash and I were amazed (as is usually the > case) when Krushnaji had a brief look at the chart and > indicated Ke antra for marriage. He also hinted that > we need to rectify the birth time to 6:27:17am. > > Now, although with the rectified birth time, ve/ke > only starts in July 1990, he indicated that June > timeframe may have given the marriage due to +/- 13 days offset. And > moreoever, on the negative side due to blessings. > > Marriage is a 5th, 7th and 12th house affair and if we > see the WS, all the planets except ve are too low for > 12th house. Also, Ve/Ve antra happened too early in > life. Moreover, due to Sa sectors the native is quite > brilliant and might have more interest in studies. She > is also loved by her father (see relative placement of > 1st and 9th) and hence must have got freedom to study. > Now, ke antra is like ve and ma. Both ve and ma are > good for 7th house, while ve is good for all 5th, 7th > and 12th houses so must have given marriage. > > Now, even with the rectified time, sa is in 5th house > in navamsa hence there is full delay with no > moderation due to jupiter and no ju delay. Sa delay > ends on 29 Sep 1982. Here 2 sectors of jupiter remain > after delay and ju is not delay causing and it's antra > is in delay period, hence will not give the event > although Ju is LoD for 7th house. > > Next is sa and me antra. Both are weak for 5th, 7th, > 12th house triplet hence disqualified. Ke is SD to ve > and ma. Ve is strong for all 5th, 7th and 12th house > hence will give the event. > > Here Ash and I had a couple of questions viz: > > Q1. Ve to su distance is 43 and ve is with sa and sa > aspects moon too, so why we chose highest points? > Shouldn't marriage be unhappy? > Answer: Marriage is unhappy that is fine, but it is > not showing quarrel or dispute. Also if we add the > points for marriage it is 30 and the chart has > blessings too which does not show divorce. Hence, we > chose high points. > > Here the key in the chart is that the delays can also > be due to the power of the planets in the WS, not just > due to sa, ju or zeroes in the chart. > > Q2: Here Sa is delay causing, so why first sector gave > event? > Answer: Sa is delay causing, but ve is NSD to sa and > powerful for 5th, 7th and 12th. Hence, the marriage > happened as soon as the powerful antra started. > > There was another important clarification that > Krushnaji provided regarding Sa delay: > > For Sa delay we consider the transit of Saturn into > the previous sign as the end of delay. For example in > this case, Sa is in scorpio sign so we consider the > delay of Saturn to be till Sa completes one round and > crosses from vir to lib. However, in some cases Sa > after crossing becomes retro and may move back from > lib to vir. In such cases when Sa becomes retro, we > consider the case when Sa crosses from vir to lib the > second time. That means the crossing should be full > and final. > > This is a little different from what all of us have > been using for sa delay. > > --\ -- > > Sindhu, can you please provide the following details > for this chart: > 1. Sex of native's child. > 2. What was the reason that her husband had her shut down the > business. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > Krushnaji has explained this chart to Manu and Myself in great detail. > > > > Please hang in there for Manu is write a detailed post explaining the > > chart. > > > > Stay tuned ! > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Dear Group, Manu, thanks for such a nice explanation. I guess I now understand why 5th,7th and 12th houses now stand important. As for the questions you asked. 1]Her first and only kid is a boy. 2]I managed to ask her about her business, she says she still does not exactly know why, but her husband made sure she could not devote any time to it and as a result it suffered and had to be closed down. Not sure if that helps. Regards, Sindhu --- Manu Batura <manubatura wrote: > Dear Group, > > Ash and I had a detailed discussion with Krushnaji > on > this chart. > > Details of the native are: > Sex: Female > Date of Birth: 9 Oct 1957 > Time of Birth: 6:24am (given), 6:27:17am (rectified > by > krushnaji) > Place of Birth: Bangalore > Latitude: 12N59 > Longitude: 77E35 > Zone: IST 5.5 (East of GMT) > DST: No > > Both Ash and I were amazed (as is usually the > case) when Krushnaji had a brief look at the chart > and > indicated Ke antra for marriage. He also hinted that > we need to rectify the birth time to 6:27:17am. > > Now, although with the rectified birth time, ve/ke > only starts in July 1990, he indicated that June > timeframe may have given the marriage due to +/- 13 > days offset. And > moreoever, on the negative side due to blessings. > > Marriage is a 5th, 7th and 12th house affair and if > we > see the WS, all the planets except ve are too low > for > 12th house. Also, Ve/Ve antra happened too early in > life. Moreover, due to Sa sectors the native is > quite > brilliant and might have more interest in studies. > She > is also loved by her father (see relative placement > of > 1st and 9th) and hence must have got freedom to > study. > Now, ke antra is like ve and ma. Both ve and ma are > good for 7th house, while ve is good for all 5th, > 7th > and 12th houses so must have given marriage. > > Now, even with the rectified time, sa is in 5th > house > in navamsa hence there is full delay with no > moderation due to jupiter and no ju delay. Sa delay > ends on 29 Sep 1982. Here 2 sectors of jupiter > remain > after delay and ju is not delay causing and it's > antra > is in delay period, hence will not give the event > although Ju is LoD for 7th house. > > Next is sa and me antra. Both are weak for 5th, 7th, > 12th house triplet hence disqualified. Ke is SD to > ve > and ma. Ve is strong for all 5th, 7th and 12th house > hence will give the event. > > Here Ash and I had a couple of questions viz: > > Q1. Ve to su distance is 43 and ve is with sa and sa > aspects moon too, so why we chose highest points? > Shouldn't marriage be unhappy? > Answer: Marriage is unhappy that is fine, but it is > not showing quarrel or dispute. Also if we add the > points for marriage it is 30 and the chart has > blessings too which does not show divorce. Hence, we > chose high points. > > Here the key in the chart is that the delays can > also > be due to the power of the planets in the WS, not > just > due to sa, ju or zeroes in the chart. > > Q2: Here Sa is delay causing, so why first sector > gave > event? > Answer: Sa is delay causing, but ve is NSD to sa and > powerful for 5th, 7th and 12th. Hence, the marriage > happened as soon as the powerful antra started. > > There was another important clarification that > Krushnaji provided regarding Sa delay: > > For Sa delay we consider the transit of Saturn into > the previous sign as the end of delay. For example > in > this case, Sa is in scorpio sign so we consider the > delay of Saturn to be till Sa completes one round > and > crosses from vir to lib. However, in some cases Sa > after crossing becomes retro and may move back from > lib to vir. In such cases when Sa becomes retro, we > consider the case when Sa crosses from vir to lib > the > second time. That means the crossing should be full > and final. > > This is a little different from what all of us have > been using for sa delay. > > --\ -- > > Sindhu, can you please provide the following details > for this chart: > 1. Sex of native's child. > 2. What was the reason that her husband had her shut > down the > business. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > , > " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > Krushnaji has explained this chart to Manu and > Myself in great detail. > > > > Please hang in there for Manu is write a detailed > post explaining the > > chart. > > > > Stay tuned ! > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Our Guru Shri Krushna Ji,Ash,Manu and group, Pranaam, This explanation is very nice and convincing through all points.I thank Manu for detailed explanation. If you read my earlier posting you may find that it was a hard task for me to come to the right conclusion. Because myself was not satisfied with the Me antara also.This was the reason I mentioned that I travelled throughout from Sa antara in Ve through Su antara in Su main. I tried to rectify the birth time also but I was always approaching before 06:24 AM. I never thought of cross the given time. However we all learn something new from our guru ji. Once again I thank Satish to bring the chart for this kind. It is our badluck that we miss our guruji on line just opposite to those earlier days. I thank Ash and Manu also for contacting Krushna ji and giving the nice write up to the forum thereafter. Regards. Ramesh Mishra --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Group, > > Manu a good summary. Yes If I may add a point. > > For why Ketu's first sector gave marriage, Krushnaji > had explained > that one must study psychology as well. When > marriage is so much > delayed then at that time, our laws might have to be > understood with > respect to psychology. So here after so much delay, > then when a > person is ready mentally at that time marriage can > happen. > > Here, Sa and Me could not give marriage due to > having low power so > once Ketu antra came, and the native was ready so > it gave the result > pronto. > > So that is also an important thing. > > Manu has highlighted the important point about delay > caused by Saturn > is that Saturn must be fully into a sign (means it > should not retro > and go back into the previous sign) so that entry > point must be taken > when Saturn is full and final into the sign as delay > getting over date. > > > Yes, also one more point which is that there is a > blessing in this > chart albeit its weakened due to 6th lord but still, > that might also > cause the native not to break this marriage. So > there is no divorce > indicated, there is also a child so marriage will > not happen in lowest > power planet. So here Ketu is more like Venus so it > will give once it > gets chance. Sa and Me cannot give and Ju period > cant give as most of > it has passed or at that time the native might not > be interested in > marriage due to her interest in growing business. > > Thanks Sindhu for bringing up this chart and thanks > to Krushanji for > clarifying this for us. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , > " Manu Batura " > <manubatura wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > Ash and I had a detailed discussion with Krushnaji > on > > this chart. > > > > Details of the native are: > > Sex: Female > > Date of Birth: 9 Oct 1957 > > Time of Birth: 6:24am (given), 6:27:17am > (rectified by > > krushnaji) > > Place of Birth: Bangalore > > Latitude: 12N59 > > Longitude: 77E35 > > Zone: IST 5.5 (East of GMT) > > DST: No > > > > Both Ash and I were amazed (as is usually the > > case) when Krushnaji had a brief look at the chart > and > > indicated Ke antra for marriage. He also hinted > that > > we need to rectify the birth time to 6:27:17am. > > > > Now, although with the rectified birth time, ve/ke > > only starts in July 1990, he indicated that June > > timeframe may have given the marriage due to +/- > 13 days offset. And > > moreoever, on the negative side due to blessings. > > > > Marriage is a 5th, 7th and 12th house affair and > if we > > see the WS, all the planets except ve are too low > for > > 12th house. Also, Ve/Ve antra happened too early > in > > life. Moreover, due to Sa sectors the native is > quite > > brilliant and might have more interest in studies. > She > > is also loved by her father (see relative > placement of > > 1st and 9th) and hence must have got freedom to > study. > > Now, ke antra is like ve and ma. Both ve and ma > are > > good for 7th house, while ve is good for all 5th, > 7th > > and 12th houses so must have given marriage. > > > > Now, even with the rectified time, sa is in 5th > house > > in navamsa hence there is full delay with no > > moderation due to jupiter and no ju delay. Sa > delay > > ends on 29 Sep 1982. Here 2 sectors of jupiter > remain > > after delay and ju is not delay causing and it's > antra > > is in delay period, hence will not give the event > > although Ju is LoD for 7th house. > > > > Next is sa and me antra. Both are weak for 5th, > 7th, > > 12th house triplet hence disqualified. Ke is SD to > ve > > and ma. Ve is strong for all 5th, 7th and 12th > house > > hence will give the event. > > > > Here Ash and I had a couple of questions viz: > > > > Q1. Ve to su distance is 43 and ve is with sa and > sa > > aspects moon too, so why we chose highest points? > > Shouldn't marriage be unhappy? > > Answer: Marriage is unhappy that is fine, but it > is > > not showing quarrel or dispute. Also if we add the > > points for marriage it is 30 and the chart has > > blessings too which does not show divorce. Hence, > we > > chose high points. > > > > Here the key in the chart is that the delays can > also > > be due to the power of the planets in the WS, not > just > > due to sa, ju or zeroes in the chart. > > > > Q2: Here Sa is delay causing, so why first sector > gave > > event? > > Answer: Sa is delay causing, but ve is NSD to sa > and > > powerful for 5th, 7th and 12th. Hence, the > marriage > > happened as soon as the powerful antra started. > > > > There was another important clarification that > > Krushnaji provided regarding Sa delay: > > > > For Sa delay we consider the transit of Saturn > into > > the previous sign as the end of delay. For example > in > > this case, Sa is in scorpio sign so we consider > the > > delay of Saturn to be till Sa completes one round > and > > crosses from vir to lib. However, in some cases Sa > > after crossing becomes retro and may move back > from > > lib to vir. In such cases when Sa becomes retro, > we > > consider the case when Sa crosses from vir to lib > the > > second time. That means the crossing should be > full > > and final. > > > > This is a little different from what all of us > have > > been using for sa delay. > > > > > --\ -- > > > > Sindhu, can you please provide the following > details > > for this chart: > > 1. Sex of native's child. > > 2. What was the reason that her husband had her > shut down the > > business. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > > === message truncated === Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Dear Ash, Manu,Ramesh, Sindu and all list, Nice teaching really, Its hard for beginers like me. While reading the solution, given by respected Krushnaji,I feel this must be a typo like or sm error from my side ...as Manu wrote.. " In WS, all the planets except venus are too low for 12th house " , though i find Sat is also having 19 points in 12th house. Secondly,as written " Venus and Mars are good for 7th house and Venus is good for all 5th, 7th,and 12th houses " But in 7th house, Mars has only 3 points. 'Sat and Mer are weak in all 5-7-12 houses " though Mer has 12 points in 5th house As Ash wrote, now onward , we sld also look for the phsycology of the native before getting antra..a very right approach . We learn a lot from such a unique chart really Regards Anup Manu Batura <manubatura wrote: Dear Group, Ash and I had a detailed discussion with Krushnaji on this chart. Details of the native are: Sex: Female Date of Birth: 9 Oct 1957 Time of Birth: 6:24am (given), 6:27:17am (rectified by krushnaji) Place of Birth: Bangalore Latitude: 12N59 Longitude: 77E35 Zone: IST 5.5 (East of GMT) DST: No Both Ash and I were amazed (as is usually the case) when Krushnaji had a brief look at the chart and indicated Ke antra for marriage. He also hinted that we need to rectify the birth time to 6:27:17am. Now, although with the rectified birth time, ve/ke only starts in July 1990, he indicated that June timeframe may have given the marriage due to +/- 13 days offset. And moreoever, on the negative side due to blessings. Marriage is a 5th, 7th and 12th house affair and if we see the WS, all the planets except ve are too low for 12th house. Also, Ve/Ve antra happened too early in life. Moreover, due to Sa sectors the native is quite brilliant and might have more interest in studies. She is also loved by her father (see relative placement of 1st and 9th) and hence must have got freedom to study. Now, ke antra is like ve and ma. Both ve and ma are good for 7th house, while ve is good for all 5th, 7th and 12th houses so must have given marriage. Now, even with the rectified time, sa is in 5th house in navamsa hence there is full delay with no moderation due to jupiter and no ju delay. Sa delay ends on 29 Sep 1982. Here 2 sectors of jupiter remain after delay and ju is not delay causing and it's antra is in delay period, hence will not give the event although Ju is LoD for 7th house. Next is sa and me antra. Both are weak for 5th, 7th, 12th house triplet hence disqualified. Ke is SD to ve and ma. Ve is strong for all 5th, 7th and 12th house hence will give the event. Here Ash and I had a couple of questions viz: Q1. Ve to su distance is 43 and ve is with sa and sa aspects moon too, so why we chose highest points? Shouldn't marriage be unhappy? Answer: Marriage is unhappy that is fine, but it is not showing quarrel or dispute. Also if we add the points for marriage it is 30 and the chart has blessings too which does not show divorce. Hence, we chose high points. Here the key in the chart is that the delays can also be due to the power of the planets in the WS, not just due to sa, ju or zeroes in the chart. Q2: Here Sa is delay causing, so why first sector gave event? Answer: Sa is delay causing, but ve is NSD to sa and powerful for 5th, 7th and 12th. Hence, the marriage happened as soon as the powerful antra started. There was another important clarification that Krushnaji provided regarding Sa delay: For Sa delay we consider the transit of Saturn into the previous sign as the end of delay. For example in this case, Sa is in scorpio sign so we consider the delay of Saturn to be till Sa completes one round and crosses from vir to lib. However, in some cases Sa after crossing becomes retro and may move back from lib to vir. In such cases when Sa becomes retro, we consider the case when Sa crosses from vir to lib the second time. That means the crossing should be full and final. This is a little different from what all of us have been using for sa delay. ------------------------- Sindhu, can you please provide the following details for this chart: 1. Sex of native's child. 2. What was the reason that her husband had her shut down the business. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Group, > > Krushnaji has explained this chart to Manu and Myself in great detail. > > Please hang in there for Manu is write a detailed post explaining the > chart. > > Stay tuned ! > > Cheers !!! > Ash > It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Dear Anup, Just study who Ketu is more like I think you will get the answer. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, Manu,Ramesh, Sindu and all list, > Nice teaching really, Its hard for beginers like me. > While reading the solution, given by respected Krushnaji,I feel this must be a typo like or sm error from my side ...as Manu wrote.. " In WS, all the planets except venus are too low for 12th house " , though i find Sat is also having 19 points in 12th house. > > Secondly,as written " Venus and Mars are good for 7th house and Venus is good for all 5th, 7th,and 12th houses " > But in 7th house, Mars has only 3 points. > > 'Sat and Mer are weak in all 5-7-12 houses " though Mer has 12 points in 5th house > > As Ash wrote, now onward , we sld also look for the phsycology of the native before getting antra..a very right approach . > We learn a lot from such a unique chart really > > Regards > Anup > Manu Batura <manubatura wrote: > Dear Group, > > Ash and I had a detailed discussion with Krushnaji on > this chart. > > Details of the native are: > Sex: Female > Date of Birth: 9 Oct 1957 > Time of Birth: 6:24am (given), 6:27:17am (rectified by > krushnaji) > Place of Birth: Bangalore > Latitude: 12N59 > Longitude: 77E35 > Zone: IST 5.5 (East of GMT) > DST: No > > Both Ash and I were amazed (as is usually the > case) when Krushnaji had a brief look at the chart and > indicated Ke antra for marriage. He also hinted that > we need to rectify the birth time to 6:27:17am. > > Now, although with the rectified birth time, ve/ke > only starts in July 1990, he indicated that June > timeframe may have given the marriage due to +/- 13 days offset. And > moreoever, on the negative side due to blessings. > > Marriage is a 5th, 7th and 12th house affair and if we > see the WS, all the planets except ve are too low for > 12th house. Also, Ve/Ve antra happened too early in > life. Moreover, due to Sa sectors the native is quite > brilliant and might have more interest in studies. She > is also loved by her father (see relative placement of > 1st and 9th) and hence must have got freedom to study. > Now, ke antra is like ve and ma. Both ve and ma are > good for 7th house, while ve is good for all 5th, 7th > and 12th houses so must have given marriage. > > Now, even with the rectified time, sa is in 5th house > in navamsa hence there is full delay with no > moderation due to jupiter and no ju delay. Sa delay > ends on 29 Sep 1982. Here 2 sectors of jupiter remain > after delay and ju is not delay causing and it's antra > is in delay period, hence will not give the event > although Ju is LoD for 7th house. > > Next is sa and me antra. Both are weak for 5th, 7th, > 12th house triplet hence disqualified. Ke is SD to ve > and ma. Ve is strong for all 5th, 7th and 12th house > hence will give the event. > > Here Ash and I had a couple of questions viz: > > Q1. Ve to su distance is 43 and ve is with sa and sa > aspects moon too, so why we chose highest points? > Shouldn't marriage be unhappy? > Answer: Marriage is unhappy that is fine, but it is > not showing quarrel or dispute. Also if we add the > points for marriage it is 30 and the chart has > blessings too which does not show divorce. Hence, we > chose high points. > > Here the key in the chart is that the delays can also > be due to the power of the planets in the WS, not just > due to sa, ju or zeroes in the chart. > > Q2: Here Sa is delay causing, so why first sector gave > event? > Answer: Sa is delay causing, but ve is NSD to sa and > powerful for 5th, 7th and 12th. Hence, the marriage > happened as soon as the powerful antra started. > > There was another important clarification that > Krushnaji provided regarding Sa delay: > > For Sa delay we consider the transit of Saturn into > the previous sign as the end of delay. For example in > this case, Sa is in scorpio sign so we consider the > delay of Saturn to be till Sa completes one round and > crosses from vir to lib. However, in some cases Sa > after crossing becomes retro and may move back from > lib to vir. In such cases when Sa becomes retro, we > consider the case when Sa crosses from vir to lib the > second time. That means the crossing should be full > and final. > > This is a little different from what all of us have > been using for sa delay. > > ------------------------- > > Sindhu, can you please provide the following details > for this chart: > 1. Sex of native's child. > 2. What was the reason that her husband had her shut down the > business. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > Krushnaji has explained this chart to Manu and Myself in great detail. > > > > Please hang in there for Manu is write a detailed post explaining the > > chart. > > > > Stay tuned ! > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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