Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Hi all, Anup, thanks for clarifying, I got confused between navamsa and saptamsa charts. So, if I understand correctly, if the karaka is not spoilt in saptamsa, then the RASI chart WS is enough to pick the correct planet for childbirth? Is that understanding correct? I am sorry for confirming but unless the basics are correct, everything else goes wrong. Thanks and Regards, Sindhu --- Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > Hi Sindhu, > > If any planet is in sixth house or with > sixth lord in Divisional charts, it can reduce the > result for the karkatva.In saptmsha chart,if the > lord of 12th house or Jup is in 6th house then it > will not give result with full strenght regarding > childbirth..It may indicate some obstruction, delay, > or no child. > I wrote this as per lesson. > > Regards > Anup > > > > Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote: > Dear Group, > I was just reading a lesson childbirth and had a > question on childbirth. > > For childbirth, > Should we consider rasi and navamsa charts or should > we consider rasi and saptamsa charts? For example, > if > the karaka, LOD or LOE are in navamsa of 6th lord in > navamsa but not exactly in saptamsa, do we consider > the results to be spoiled/denied? > > Look forward for the answer! > > Thanks and Regards, > Sindhu > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > Just study who Ketu is more like I think you will > > get the answer. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , > > Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manu,Ramesh, Sindu and all list, > > > Nice teaching really, Its > > hard for beginers > > like me. > > > While reading the solution, > > given by > > respected Krushnaji,I feel this must be a typo > like > > or sm error from > > my side ...as Manu wrote.. " In WS, all the planets > > except venus are too > > low for 12th house " , though i find Sat is also > > having 19 points in > > 12th house. > > > > > > Secondly,as written " Venus and Mars are good for > > 7th house and > > Venus is good for all 5th, 7th,and 12th houses " > > > But in 7th house, Mars has only 3 points. > > > > > > 'Sat and Mer are weak in all 5-7-12 houses " > > though Mer has 12 > > points in 5th house > > > > > > As Ash wrote, now onward , we sld also look for > > the phsycology of > > the native before getting antra..a very right > > approach . > > > We learn a lot from such a unique chart really > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura wrote: > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > Ash and I had a detailed discussion with > Krushnaji > > on > > > this chart. > > > > > > Details of the native are: > > > Sex: Female > > > Date of Birth: 9 Oct 1957 > > > Time of Birth: 6:24am (given), 6:27:17am > > (rectified by > > > krushnaji) > > > Place of Birth: Bangalore > > > Latitude: 12N59 > > > Longitude: 77E35 > > > Zone: IST 5.5 (East of GMT) > > > DST: No > > > > > > Both Ash and I were amazed (as is usually the > > > case) when Krushnaji had a brief look at the > chart > > and > > > indicated Ke antra for marriage. He also hinted > > that > > > we need to rectify the birth time to 6:27:17am. > > > > > > Now, although with the rectified birth time, > ve/ke > > > only starts in July 1990, he indicated that June > > > timeframe may have given the marriage due to +/- > > 13 days offset. And > > > moreoever, on the negative side due to > blessings. > > > > > > Marriage is a 5th, 7th and 12th house affair and > > if we > > > see the WS, all the planets except ve are too > low > > for > > > 12th house. Also, Ve/Ve antra happened too early > > in > > > life. Moreover, due to Sa sectors the native is > > quite > > > brilliant and might have more interest in > studies. > > She > > > is also loved by her father (see relative > > placement of > > > 1st and 9th) and hence must have got freedom to > > study. > > > Now, ke antra is like ve and ma. Both ve and ma > > are > > > good for 7th house, while ve is good for all > 5th, > > 7th > > > and 12th houses so must have given marriage. > > > > > > Now, even with the rectified time, sa is in 5th > > house > > > in navamsa hence there is full delay with no > > > moderation due to jupiter and no ju delay. Sa > > delay > > > ends on 29 Sep 1982. Here 2 sectors of jupiter > > remain > > > after delay and ju is not delay causing and it's > > antra > > > is in delay period, hence will not give the > event > > > although Ju is LoD for 7th house. > > > > > > Next is sa and me antra. Both are weak for 5th, > > 7th, > > > 12th house triplet hence disqualified. Ke is SD > to > > ve > > > and ma. Ve is strong for all 5th, 7th and 12th > > house > > > hence will give the event. > > > > > > Here Ash and I had a couple of questions viz: > > > > > > Q1. Ve to su distance is 43 and ve is with sa > and > > sa > > > aspects moon too, so why we chose highest > points? > > > Shouldn't marriage be unhappy? > > > Answer: Marriage is unhappy that is fine, but it > > is > > > not showing quarrel or dispute. Also if we add > the > > > points for marriage it is 30 and the chart has > > > blessings too which does not show divorce. > Hence, > > we > > > chose high points. > > > > > > Here the key in the chart is that the delays can > > also > > > be due to the power of the planets in the WS, > not > > just > > > due to sa, ju or zeroes in the chart. > > > > > > Q2: Here Sa is delay causing, so why first > sector > > gave > > > event? > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Hi sindhu, You are right that in the RASI chart, WS will do to pick the correct planet for childbirth.But for the quality of the result, saptmsha sld also be seen. For any event to take place for any houseB, NK and FK sld have minimum 12 points in WS and sld not be spoiled. Members can also clarify this in detail too, if i am wrong. Regards Anup Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote: Hi all, Anup, thanks for clarifying, I got confused between navamsa and saptamsa charts. So, if I understand correctly, if the karaka is not spoilt in saptamsa, then the RASI chart WS is enough to pick the correct planet for childbirth? Is that understanding correct? I am sorry for confirming but unless the basics are correct, everything else goes wrong. Thanks and Regards, Sindhu --- Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > Hi Sindhu, > > If any planet is in sixth house or with > sixth lord in Divisional charts, it can reduce the > result for the karkatva.In saptmsha chart,if the > lord of 12th house or Jup is in 6th house then it > will not give result with full strenght regarding > childbirth..It may indicate some obstruction, delay, > or no child. > I wrote this as per lesson. > > Regards > Anup > > > > Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote: > Dear Group, > I was just reading a lesson childbirth and had a > question on childbirth. > > For childbirth, > Should we consider rasi and navamsa charts or should > we consider rasi and saptamsa charts? For example, > if > the karaka, LOD or LOE are in navamsa of 6th lord in > navamsa but not exactly in saptamsa, do we consider > the results to be spoiled/denied? > > Look forward for the answer! > > Thanks and Regards, > Sindhu > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > Just study who Ketu is more like I think you will > > get the answer. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , > > Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, Manu,Ramesh, Sindu and all list, > > > Nice teaching really, Its > > hard for beginers > > like me. > > > While reading the solution, > > given by > > respected Krushnaji,I feel this must be a typo > like > > or sm error from > > my side ...as Manu wrote.. " In WS, all the planets > > except venus are too > > low for 12th house " , though i find Sat is also > > having 19 points in > > 12th house. > > > > > > Secondly,as written " Venus and Mars are good for > > 7th house and > > Venus is good for all 5th, 7th,and 12th houses " > > > But in 7th house, Mars has only 3 points. > > > > > > 'Sat and Mer are weak in all 5-7-12 houses " > > though Mer has 12 > > points in 5th house > > > > > > As Ash wrote, now onward , we sld also look for > > the phsycology of > > the native before getting antra..a very right > > approach . > > > We learn a lot from such a unique chart really > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu Batura <manubatura wrote: > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > Ash and I had a detailed discussion with > Krushnaji > > on > > > this chart. > > > > > > Details of the native are: > > > Sex: Female > > > Date of Birth: 9 Oct 1957 > > > Time of Birth: 6:24am (given), 6:27:17am > > (rectified by > > > krushnaji) > > > Place of Birth: Bangalore > > > Latitude: 12N59 > > > Longitude: 77E35 > > > Zone: IST 5.5 (East of GMT) > > > DST: No > > > > > > Both Ash and I were amazed (as is usually the > > > case) when Krushnaji had a brief look at the > chart > > and > > > indicated Ke antra for marriage. He also hinted > > that > > > we need to rectify the birth time to 6:27:17am. > > > > > > Now, although with the rectified birth time, > ve/ke > > > only starts in July 1990, he indicated that June > > > timeframe may have given the marriage due to +/- > > 13 days offset. And > > > moreoever, on the negative side due to > blessings. > > > > > > Marriage is a 5th, 7th and 12th house affair and > > if we > > > see the WS, all the planets except ve are too > low > > for > > > 12th house. Also, Ve/Ve antra happened too early > > in > > > life. Moreover, due to Sa sectors the native is > > quite > > > brilliant and might have more interest in > studies. > > She > > > is also loved by her father (see relative > > placement of > > > 1st and 9th) and hence must have got freedom to > > study. > > > Now, ke antra is like ve and ma. Both ve and ma > > are > > > good for 7th house, while ve is good for all > 5th, > > 7th > > > and 12th houses so must have given marriage. > > > > > > Now, even with the rectified time, sa is in 5th > > house > > > in navamsa hence there is full delay with no > > > moderation due to jupiter and no ju delay. Sa > > delay > > > ends on 29 Sep 1982. Here 2 sectors of jupiter > > remain > > > after delay and ju is not delay causing and it's > > antra > > > is in delay period, hence will not give the > event > > > although Ju is LoD for 7th house. > > > > > > Next is sa and me antra. Both are weak for 5th, > > 7th, > > > 12th house triplet hence disqualified. Ke is SD > to > > ve > > > and ma. Ve is strong for all 5th, 7th and 12th > > house > > > hence will give the event. > > > > > > Here Ash and I had a couple of questions viz: > > > > > > Q1. Ve to su distance is 43 and ve is with sa > and > > sa > > > aspects moon too, so why we chose highest > points? > > > Shouldn't marriage be unhappy? > > > Answer: Marriage is unhappy that is fine, but it > > is > > > not showing quarrel or dispute. Also if we add > the > > > points for marriage it is 30 and the chart has > > > blessings too which does not show divorce. > Hence, > > we > > > chose high points. > > > > > > Here the key in the chart is that the delays can > > also > > > be due to the power of the planets in the WS, > not > > just > > > due to sa, ju or zeroes in the chart. > > > > > > Q2: Here Sa is delay causing, so why first > sector > > gave > > > event? > === message truncated === Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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