Dasamsa Question

, Sindhu Iyer

<sindhu_iyer wrote:

>

> Dear Ramesh

> The reason why I said Sa was samdharmi to Mars was

> from this old post of somebody called Sach, he seemed

> t o know this system from Krushnaji I guess:

>

> The link is :

>

> He says:

> --------

> NO THIS IS ONLY FOR NAVAMANSHA CHART. NAVAMANSHA CHART

> HAVE EQUAL STATUS TO

> RASHI CHART. IF TWO PLANETS ARE IN SAME NAVAMANSHA OR

> IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF

> ONE PLANET THEY ARE SAMDHARMI. THIS LAW DO NOT APPLY

> TO RASHI CHART.

>

> Since both Sa and Mars are in the navamsa of the same

> planet venus, based on my understanding they become

> samdharmi. Here Mars is the strongest significator and

> Sa is delay causing and therefore could give in the

> antra I think.

>

> Regards,

> Sindhu

>

--- SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Ramesh you have raised good points. I was thinking

> > on

> > the same lines although not in this much detail. The

> > question you have raised about should the antara

> > where

> > delay gets over can give the event ? If the blessing

> > in chart can negate all delay then why not guru

> > antara

> > itself. Then for that one can say by Desh kaal,

> > sthiti

> > the native being male was not ready for marriage in

> > Ju

> > antara. May be some one can clarify these things.

> >

> > Satish

> > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Ash, Anup, Manu, Bala, Upendra and all,

> > > For the verification of time of birth I was

> > > confirming the date of marriage of the native.

> > > The native said he married on 19 May 2003 in Sa

> > > antara of Ra main.

> > > I got the asc as 13 Cp 29. In this chart Ve is

> > > very close to Su thus it is combust.

> > > We can say it is powerless.

> > > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Ma

> > > in 9th house.

> > > The 7th lord from lagna, Su and Mo is in 4:10

> > and

> > > 1:7 so 30 points is accumulated by the native.

> > > There is no delay by Sa but delay is caused due

> > to

> > > Ju. This delay will be over on 13 Jun 01 when Sa

> > > antara was passing in Ra main. This delay was over

> > > in 1st sector of Sa antara and the marriage

> > happened

> > > in third sector.

> > > Actually Sa antara should not give marriage.

> > > Though Sa has only 16 points in WS for 7th. It

> > is

> > > neither the highest significator nor LoD nor LoE.

> > > Sa is NSD and Fsd to Ve.

> > > But the question is how Sa will give the event

> > > when delay is over in its antara.

> > > So this conception should be clear first .

> > > Next antara of Me also can not give marriage. Me

> > > is in house E of 7th with 3 bindus only.

> > > The following antara of Ke can give the event

> > > because Ke is SD to Ju the LoE.

> > >

> > > The blessings in the chart is present. This

> > > blessings is involved by Sa and Me.

> > > Me is 6th lord. In navamsa Me and Sa is in 4:10

> > > combination.

> > > When you consider the nullification of delay due

> > > to blessings then the native attains the normal

> > age

> > > of marriage (21 yrs) in 1st sector of Ju antara.

> > > There is one zero so the event could be pushed to

> > > 3rd sector.

> > > Ju is LoEalso so marriage could have been in 3rd

> > > sector of Ju antara.

> > > Ju is powerful in all the houses except 8th,

> > > whereas Sa is weak in 12th house.

> > >

> > > According to me marriage considering all the

> > > facts, should be in Ke antara.

> > > But it happened in Sa antara..

> > > Therefore do we need the correction in birth

> > time

> > > for this chart ?

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote

> > > Dear Ramesh, Manu, Sindhu and Group,

> > >

> > > If this chart came blindly to you, would you be

> > able

> > > to time marriage.

> > >

> > > Each time very difficult charts are brought up by

> > > senior members, but

> > > this chart can be solved by all.

> > >

> > > Please solve this chart as well. Please give clear

> > > mathematical

> > > solution using KAS.

> > >

> > > Solving such charts will give confidence and spell

> > > out the clarity of KAS.

> > >

> > > Mostly students (advanced) are bringing charts

> > that

> > > are very difficult

> > > where tark and experience is needed, at the same

> > > time, those are 20%

> > > if u go by the 80-20 rule.

> > >

> > > So here is one simple chart :-)

> > >

> > > Try to solve this if this chart came blindly to

> > you.

> > > See if Job is

> > > matching and please ask questions to Upendra as he

> > > has said he will

> > > help people learn.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > ,

> > > " upendra_agni "

> > > <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I just found that the Longitude and Latitude

> > > information is wrong.

> > > > Please find the correct information for my

> > > question below.

> > > >

> > > > Date of Birth: 19-Jan-1978

> > > > Time of Birth: 07:10 AM

> > > > Place of Birth: Kaikaluru (78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N

> > 23'

> > > 00 " )

> > > >

> > > > IMP EVENTS:

> > > > Date of Marriage : 19-May-2003 02:16 AM

> > > > First Kid Born on: 14-Dec-2004 (Baby Girl)

> > > > Second Kid Born On: 01-Jun-2006 (Baby Boy)

> > > >

> > > > Got First Job on : 05-Apr-1999

> > > > Second Job on : 21-Mar-2003

> > > > Got present job on: 08-Jan-2007

> > > >

> > > > Using KAS, I would like to know in detail,

> > > according to Dasamsa and

> > > > Rasi I would like to know which is the best

> > > suitable for me. Business

> > > > or Service?

> > > >

> > > > Please let me know if you need more details.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Upendra

> > > >

> > >

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May 8, 2007

Sindhu,

I hope this must be answered by Ash atleast.Its smthing which we were ignoring

since begining ,if so.

Regards

Anup

Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote:

Dear Ramesh

The reason why I said Sa was samdharmi to Mars was

from this old post of somebody called Sach, he seemed

t o know this system from Krushnaji I guess:

The link is :

/message/308

He says:

--------

NO THIS IS ONLY FOR NAVAMANSHA CHART. NAVAMANSHA CHART

HAVE EQUAL STATUS TO

RASHI CHART. IF TWO PLANETS ARE IN SAME NAVAMANSHA OR

IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF

ONE PLANET THEY ARE SAMDHARMI. THIS LAW DO NOT APPLY

TO RASHI CHART.

Since both Sa and Mars are in the navamsa of the same

planet venus, based on my understanding they become

samdharmi. Here Mars is the strongest significator and

Sa is delay causing and therefore could give in the

antra I think.

Regards,

Sindhu

--- SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:

> Dear All,

>

> Ramesh you have raised good points. I was thinking

> on

> the same lines although not in this much detail. The

> question you have raised about should the antara

> where

> delay gets over can give the event ? If the blessing

> in chart can negate all delay then why not guru

> antara

> itself. Then for that one can say by Desh kaal,

> sthiti

> the native being male was not ready for marriage in

> Ju

> antara. May be some one can clarify these things.

>

> Satish

> --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002

> wrote:

>

> > Dear Ash, Anup, Manu, Bala, Upendra and all,

> > For the verification of time of birth I was

> > confirming the date of marriage of the native.

> > The native said he married on 19 May 2003 in Sa

> > antara of Ra main.

> > I got the asc as 13 Cp 29. In this chart Ve is

> > very close to Su thus it is combust.

> > We can say it is powerless.

> > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Ma

> > in 9th house.

> > The 7th lord from lagna, Su and Mo is in 4:10

> and

> > 1:7 so 30 points is accumulated by the native.

> > There is no delay by Sa but delay is caused due

> to

> > Ju. This delay will be over on 13 Jun 01 when Sa

> > antara was passing in Ra main. This delay was over

> > in 1st sector of Sa antara and the marriage

> happened

> > in third sector.

> > Actually Sa antara should not give marriage.

> > Though Sa has only 16 points in WS for 7th. It

> is

> > neither the highest significator nor LoD nor LoE.

> > Sa is NSD and Fsd to Ve.

> > But the question is how Sa will give the event

> > when delay is over in its antara.

> > So this conception should be clear first .

> > Next antara of Me also can not give marriage. Me

> > is in house E of 7th with 3 bindus only.

> > The following antara of Ke can give the event

> > because Ke is SD to Ju the LoE.

> >

> > The blessings in the chart is present. This

> > blessings is involved by Sa and Me.

> > Me is 6th lord. In navamsa Me and Sa is in 4:10

> > combination.

> > When you consider the nullification of delay due

> > to blessings then the native attains the normal

> age

> > of marriage (21 yrs) in 1st sector of Ju antara.

> > There is one zero so the event could be pushed to

> > 3rd sector.

> > Ju is LoEalso so marriage could have been in 3rd

> > sector of Ju antara.

> > Ju is powerful in all the houses except 8th,

> > whereas Sa is weak in 12th house.

> >

> > According to me marriage considering all the

> > facts, should be in Ke antara.

> > But it happened in Sa antara..

> > Therefore do we need the correction in birth

> time

> > for this chart ?

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote

> > Dear Ramesh, Manu, Sindhu and Group,

> >

> > If this chart came blindly to you, would you be

> able

> > to time marriage.

> >

> > Each time very difficult charts are brought up by

> > senior members, but

> > this chart can be solved by all.

> >

> > Please solve this chart as well. Please give clear

> > mathematical

> > solution using KAS.

> >

> > Solving such charts will give confidence and spell

> > out the clarity of KAS.

> >

> > Mostly students (advanced) are bringing charts

> that

> > are very difficult

> > where tark and experience is needed, at the same

> > time, those are 20%

> > if u go by the 80-20 rule.

> >

> > So here is one simple chart :-)

> >

> > Try to solve this if this chart came blindly to

> you.

> > See if Job is

> > matching and please ask questions to Upendra as he

> > has said he will

> > help people learn.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > ,

> > " upendra_agni "

> > <upendra.agni wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I just found that the Longitude and Latitude

> > information is wrong.

> > > Please find the correct information for my

> > question below.

> > >

> > > Date of Birth: 19-Jan-1978

> > > Time of Birth: 07:10 AM

> > > Place of Birth: Kaikaluru (78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N

> 23'

> > 00 " )

> > >

> > > IMP EVENTS:

> > > Date of Marriage : 19-May-2003 02:16 AM

> > > First Kid Born on: 14-Dec-2004 (Baby Girl)

> > > Second Kid Born On: 01-Jun-2006 (Baby Boy)

> > >

> > > Got First Job on : 05-Apr-1999

> > > Second Job on : 21-Mar-2003

> > > Got present job on: 08-Jan-2007

> > >

> > > Using KAS, I would like to know in detail,

> > according to Dasamsa and

> > > Rasi I would like to know which is the best

> > suitable for me. Business

> > > or Service?

> > >

> > > Please let me know if you need more details.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Upendra

> > >

> >

> > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs,

> don't

> > allow you to download CHAT? Here's a solution!

> >

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> >

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May 8, 2007

Dear Anup,

Answer these questions please in Yes or No.

IF Sa is in rasi of aries or sco do we take Sa to be SD to Ma?

If Sa is in navamsa of aries or sco do we take Sa to be SD to Ma?

Cheers !!!

, Anup <dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Sindhu,

>

> I hope this must be answered by Ash atleast.Its smthing which we

were ignoring since begining ,if so.

> Regards

> Anup

>

> Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote:

> Dear Ramesh

> The reason why I said Sa was samdharmi to Mars was

> from this old post of somebody called Sach, he seemed

> t o know this system from Krushnaji I guess:

>

> The link is :

>

> He says:

> --------

> NO THIS IS ONLY FOR NAVAMANSHA CHART. NAVAMANSHA CHART

> HAVE EQUAL STATUS TO

> RASHI CHART. IF TWO PLANETS ARE IN SAME NAVAMANSHA OR

> IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF

> ONE PLANET THEY ARE SAMDHARMI. THIS LAW DO NOT APPLY

> TO RASHI CHART.

>

> Since both Sa and Mars are in the navamsa of the same

> planet venus, based on my understanding they become

> samdharmi. Here Mars is the strongest significator and

> Sa is delay causing and therefore could give in the

> antra I think.

>

> Regards,

> Sindhu

>

> --- SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Ramesh you have raised good points. I was thinking

> > on

> > the same lines although not in this much detail. The

> > question you have raised about should the antara

> > where

> > delay gets over can give the event ? If the blessing

> > in chart can negate all delay then why not guru

> > antara

> > itself. Then for that one can say by Desh kaal,

> > sthiti

> > the native being male was not ready for marriage in

> > Ju

> > antara. May be some one can clarify these things.

> >

> > Satish

> > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Ash, Anup, Manu, Bala, Upendra and all,

> > > For the verification of time of birth I was

> > > confirming the date of marriage of the native.

> > > The native said he married on 19 May 2003 in Sa

> > > antara of Ra main.

> > > I got the asc as 13 Cp 29. In this chart Ve is

> > > very close to Su thus it is combust.

> > > We can say it is powerless.

> > > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Ma

> > > in 9th house.

> > > The 7th lord from lagna, Su and Mo is in 4:10

> > and

> > > 1:7 so 30 points is accumulated by the native.

> > > There is no delay by Sa but delay is caused due

> > to

> > > Ju. This delay will be over on 13 Jun 01 when Sa

> > > antara was passing in Ra main. This delay was over

> > > in 1st sector of Sa antara and the marriage

> > happened

> > > in third sector.

> > > Actually Sa antara should not give marriage.

> > > Though Sa has only 16 points in WS for 7th. It

> > is

> > > neither the highest significator nor LoD nor LoE.

> > > Sa is NSD and Fsd to Ve.

> > > But the question is how Sa will give the event

> > > when delay is over in its antara.

> > > So this conception should be clear first .

> > > Next antara of Me also can not give marriage. Me

> > > is in house E of 7th with 3 bindus only.

> > > The following antara of Ke can give the event

> > > because Ke is SD to Ju the LoE.

> > >

> > > The blessings in the chart is present. This

> > > blessings is involved by Sa and Me.

> > > Me is 6th lord. In navamsa Me and Sa is in 4:10

> > > combination.

> > > When you consider the nullification of delay due

> > > to blessings then the native attains the normal

> > age

> > > of marriage (21 yrs) in 1st sector of Ju antara.

> > > There is one zero so the event could be pushed to

> > > 3rd sector.

> > > Ju is LoEalso so marriage could have been in 3rd

> > > sector of Ju antara.

> > > Ju is powerful in all the houses except 8th,

> > > whereas Sa is weak in 12th house.

> > >

> > > According to me marriage considering all the

> > > facts, should be in Ke antara.

> > > But it happened in Sa antara..

> > > Therefore do we need the correction in birth

> > time

> > > for this chart ?

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote

> > > Dear Ramesh, Manu, Sindhu and Group,

> > >

> > > If this chart came blindly to you, would you be

> > able

> > > to time marriage.

> > >

> > > Each time very difficult charts are brought up by

> > > senior members, but

> > > this chart can be solved by all.

> > >

> > > Please solve this chart as well. Please give clear

> > > mathematical

> > > solution using KAS.

> > >

> > > Solving such charts will give confidence and spell

> > > out the clarity of KAS.

> > >

> > > Mostly students (advanced) are bringing charts

> > that

> > > are very difficult

> > > where tark and experience is needed, at the same

> > > time, those are 20%

> > > if u go by the 80-20 rule.

> > >

> > > So here is one simple chart :-)

> > >

> > > Try to solve this if this chart came blindly to

> > you.

> > > See if Job is

> > > matching and please ask questions to Upendra as he

> > > has said he will

> > > help people learn.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > ,

> > > " upendra_agni "

> > > <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I just found that the Longitude and Latitude

> > > information is wrong.

> > > > Please find the correct information for my

> > > question below.

> > > >

> > > > Date of Birth: 19-Jan-1978

> > > > Time of Birth: 07:10 AM

> > > > Place of Birth: Kaikaluru (78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N

> > 23'

> > > 00 " )

> > > >

> > > > IMP EVENTS:

> > > > Date of Marriage : 19-May-2003 02:16 AM

> > > > First Kid Born on: 14-Dec-2004 (Baby Girl)

> > > > Second Kid Born On: 01-Jun-2006 (Baby Boy)

> > > >

> > > > Got First Job on : 05-Apr-1999

> > > > Second Job on : 21-Mar-2003

> > > > Got present job on: 08-Jan-2007

> > > >

> > > > Using KAS, I would like to know in detail,

> > > according to Dasamsa and

> > > > Rasi I would like to know which is the best

> > > suitable for me. Business

> > > > or Service?

> > > >

> > > > Please let me know if you need more details.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Upendra

> > > >

> > >

> > > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs,

> > don't

> > > allow you to download CHAT? Here's a solution!

> > >

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May 8, 2007

Dear Sindhu,

I had a discussion with Krushnaji and Ash regarding this.

It seems there was a mis-interpretation while taking down the lessons

from krushnaji hence this confusion.

If Sa controls house C, but does not aspect Lord of C as in lesson 33,

it cannot classified as a case of Sa delay. In the chart provided in

the lesson you will find that sa aspect house A, is LoB and controls

house C. In this case there is no Sa delay. The chart has a zero due

to sa for 9th house so that can be the reason for the delay.

Hope it is clear and thanks for your post. It helped clarify things

for me and list members.

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

, Sindhu Iyer

<sindhu_iyer wrote:

>

> Dear Manu,

> Actually you were right in your previous analysis, I

> remember an old post from Krushnaji where he says that

> Saturn if placed in the 10th from C (even in that

> example Saturn was in the 8th) causes full delay.

>

> Here is a cut/paste to that from Lesson 33 on the

> website:

> Now we look at the delay causing factors

> Saturn is the 7th lord (House B) and Mercury is the

> 2nd and 11th lords (House A and House C respectively).

> Saturn has no aspect on any of the houses concerned,

> but Saturn aspects the 2nd house and is in the 8th

> which is the10th from the 11th ©. This 4:10

> relationship is very important. We know that a planet

> with low points controls the 4th house. Saturn with

> only 3 points will have an effect on the 11th

> house (house C) and will therefore cause a delay.

> Jupiter is in Cancer in the 12th and in its own

> nakshatra. Its sight on Saturn can reduce the delay

> caused by Saturn.

> The basic delay becomes 24 to 25 years.

>

> Regards,

> Sindhu

>

> --- Manu Batura <manubatura wrote:

>

> > Dear Anup,

> >

> > Good questions. There is an error in my analysis

> > with respect to sa

> > delay. Actually Sa's control of a house (A/B/C) is

> > not to be

> > considered although Sa can control LoA/LoB/LoC and

> > hence can cause

> > delay in marriage. So, in this case there is no Sa

> > delay as Sa is not

> > controlling LoA/LoB/LoC and only controlling house

> > C.

> >

> > Regarding your second question, I am putting down my

> > current

> > understanding. If delay gets over in the antra of

> > delay causing

> > planet, then the plaent itself can give the event.

> > Consider delay to

> > be a case when the planet is restricting the event.

> > When the

> > restriction (delay) is over it is like as if a

> > bottleneck is cleared

> > and the planet that was initially restricting now

> > gives the event.

> > Just trying to give an analogy here. Hope it helps.

> >

> > Now, here, there is blessings in the chart although

> > the blessings is

> > marred by me being 6th lord. Hence, it may reduce

> > the delay somewhat

> > and cause sa antra to give marriage although

> > complete reduction of

> > delay may not be possible for this chart.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Manu

> >

> > ,

> > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Manu,

> > >

> > > I have two questions in

> > mind.

> > > 1] Saturn delay calculated

> > by you, like

> > Saturn takes control of houseC,can such a control is

> > valid for the delay?

> > > 2] Jup have 7 quicky to

> > compensate one error

> > like Venus combust and drag this delay to backward

> > in Sat antra in

> > 2002.ok that is justifiable but How a delay causing

> > planet can give

> > event, irrespect its neither Lod, nor Loe.

> > > I hope i may be wrong and you may be right

> > though, but just a thought.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Anup

> > >

> > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote:

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > Here is my analysis for pendra's marriage:

> > >

> > > I am getting asc as 13cap45.

> > >

> > > There is full delay due to Sa. It is LoA, aspects

> > LoB and controls C.

> > > Sa delay is till Aug 2005.

> > >

> > > There is ju moderation which takes it to 2002.

> > There is ju delay too.

> > > However, after moderation ju hits hs7 quickly (it

> > rectifies one

> > > problem for ve combustion).

> > >

> > > Sa antra is running at that time and since Sa

> > itself is delay causing

> > > can give the event. There is one zero in the chart

> > and Sa is not LoD/E

> > > for 7th, hence 3rd sector. ma/su PDF should have

> > given the event

> > > delayed to ve/su for +/-13 days.

> > >

> > > Kindly correct if I made a mistake.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Manu

> > >

> > > ,

> > " ashsam73 "

> > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramesh, Manu, Sindhu and Group,

> > > >

> > > > If this chart came blindly to you, would you be

> > able to time marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Each time very difficult charts are brought up

> > by senior members, but

> > > > this chart can be solved by all.

> > > >

> > > > Please solve this chart as well. Please give

> > clear mathematical

> > > > solution using KAS.

> > > >

> > > > Solving such charts will give confidence and

> > spell out the clarity

> > > of KAS.

> > > >

> > > > Mostly students (advanced) are bringing charts

> > that are very difficult

> > > > where tark and experience is needed, at the same

> > time, those are 20%

> > > > if u go by the 80-20 rule.

> > > >

> > > > So here is one simple chart :-)

> > > >

> > > > Try to solve this if this chart came blindly to

> > you. See if Job is

> > > > matching and please ask questions to Upendra as

> > he has said he will

> > > > help people learn.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > " upendra_agni "

> > > > <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > I just found that the Longitude and Latitude

> > information is wrong.

> > > > > Please find the correct information for my

> > question below.

> > > > >

> > > > > Date of Birth: 19-Jan-1978

> > > > > Time of Birth: 07:10 AM

> > > > > Place of Birth: Kaikaluru (78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N

> > 23' 00 " )

> > > > >

> > > > > IMP EVENTS:

> > > > > Date of Marriage : 19-May-2003 02:16 AM

> > > > > First Kid Born on: 14-Dec-2004 (Baby Girl)

> > > > > Second Kid Born On: 01-Jun-2006 (Baby Boy)

> > > > >

> > > > > Got First Job on : 05-Apr-1999

> > > > > Second Job on : 21-Mar-2003

> > > > > Got present job on: 08-Jan-2007

> > > > >

> > > > > Using KAS, I would like to know in detail,

> > according to Dasamsa and

> > > > > Rasi I would like to know which is the best

> > suitable for me.

> > Business

> > > > > or Service?

> > > > >

> > > > > Please let me know if you need more details.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Upendra

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car "

> > smell?

> > > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > >

> >

>

May 8, 2007

Dear Ash,

Thank you so much for explaining. It definitely

cleared the confusion I created with this post, I

apologize!

English is such a funny language, at the same time

dangerous too. It can be interpreted in so many

ways...Geez.

Thanks once again,

Sindhu

--- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

> Dear Sindhu,

>

> Acutally Sach is a very senior student of Krushanji

> who has learnt

> directly from Krushanji. He is a very learned man

> who has been

> fortunate to learn directly from Krushnaji.

>

> What me means here is that for example say take

> Saturn is in sign of

> Aries in navamsa or in sign of sco then Sa is SD to

> Mars.

>

> Now in Rasi if Sa is in sign of Aries or Sco we do

> not take that as SD

> to sign lord in Rasi however planets become sD to

> the navamsa lord.

>

> Next case if 2 planest are conjoining in navasma so

> that means that

> they are SD as well.

>

> I hope its clear.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> ,

> Sindhu Iyer

> <sindhu_iyer wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramesh

> > The reason why I said Sa was samdharmi to Mars

> was

> > from this old post of somebody called Sach, he

> seemed

> > t o know this system from Krushnaji I guess:

> >

> > The link is :

> >

>

/message/308

> >

> > He says:

> > --------

> > NO THIS IS ONLY FOR NAVAMANSHA CHART. NAVAMANSHA

> CHART

> > HAVE EQUAL STATUS TO

> > RASHI CHART. IF TWO PLANETS ARE IN SAME NAVAMANSHA

> OR

> > IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF

> > ONE PLANET THEY ARE SAMDHARMI. THIS LAW DO NOT

> APPLY

> > TO RASHI CHART.

> >

> > Since both Sa and Mars are in the navamsa of the

> same

> > planet venus, based on my understanding they

> become

> > samdharmi. Here Mars is the strongest significator

> and

> > Sa is delay causing and therefore could give in

> the

> > antra I think.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Sindhu

> >

> > --- SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:

> >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > Ramesh you have raised good points. I was

> thinking

> > > on

> > > the same lines although not in this much detail.

> The

> > > question you have raised about should the antara

> > > where

> > > delay gets over can give the event ? If the

> blessing

> > > in chart can negate all delay then why not guru

> > > antara

> > > itself. Then for that one can say by Desh kaal,

> > > sthiti

> > > the native being male was not ready for marriage

> in

> > > Ju

> > > antara. May be some one can clarify these

> things.

> > >

> > > Satish

> > > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Manu, Bala, Upendra and all,

> > > > For the verification of time of birth I was

> > > > confirming the date of marriage of the native.

> > > > The native said he married on 19 May 2003 in

> Sa

> > > > antara of Ra main.

> > > > I got the asc as 13 Cp 29. In this chart Ve

> is

> > > > very close to Su thus it is combust.

> > > > We can say it is powerless.

> > > > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed

> by Ma

> > > > in 9th house.

> > > > The 7th lord from lagna, Su and Mo is in

> 4:10

> > > and

> > > > 1:7 so 30 points is accumulated by the native.

> > > > There is no delay by Sa but delay is caused

> due

> > > to

> > > > Ju. This delay will be over on 13 Jun 01 when

> Sa

> > > > antara was passing in Ra main. This delay was

> over

> > > > in 1st sector of Sa antara and the marriage

> > > happened

> > > > in third sector.

> > > > Actually Sa antara should not give marriage.

> > > > Though Sa has only 16 points in WS for 7th.

> It

> > > is

> > > > neither the highest significator nor LoD nor

> LoE.

> > > > Sa is NSD and Fsd to Ve.

> > > > But the question is how Sa will give the

> event

> > > > when delay is over in its antara.

> > > > So this conception should be clear first .

> > > > Next antara of Me also can not give

> marriage. Me

> > > > is in house E of 7th with 3 bindus only.

> > > > The following antara of Ke can give the

> event

> > > > because Ke is SD to Ju the LoE.

> > > >

> > > > The blessings in the chart is present. This

> > > > blessings is involved by Sa and Me.

> > > > Me is 6th lord. In navamsa Me and Sa is in

> 4:10

> > > > combination.

> > > > When you consider the nullification of delay

> due

> > > > to blessings then the native attains the

> normal

> > > age

> > > > of marriage (21 yrs) in 1st sector of Ju

> antara.

> > > > There is one zero so the event could be pushed

> to

> > > > 3rd sector.

> > > > Ju is LoEalso so marriage could have been in

> 3rd

> > > > sector of Ju antara.

> > > > Ju is powerful in all the houses except 8th,

> > > > whereas Sa is weak in 12th house.

> > > >

> > > > According to me marriage considering all the

> > > > facts, should be in Ke antara.

> > > > But it happened in Sa antara..

> > > > Therefore do we need the correction in birth

> > > time

> > > > for this chart ?

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote

> > > > Dear Ramesh, Manu, Sindhu and Group,

> > > >

> > > > If this chart came blindly to you, would you

> be

> > > able

> > > > to time marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Each time very difficult charts are brought up

> by

> > > > senior members, but

> > > > this chart can be solved by all.

> > > >

> > > > Please solve this chart as well. Please give

> clear

> > > > mathematical

> > > > solution using KAS.

> > > >

> > > > Solving such charts will give confidence and

> spell

> > > > out the clarity of KAS.

> > > >

> > > > Mostly students (advanced) are bringing charts

> > > that

> > > > are very difficult

>

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Dear Manu,

Thank you so much for this post. Man, that was

helpful!

On a personal note Manu, are you from Mumbai? I am

from Mumbai too, I Just got excited to see somebody

from aamchi mumbai!

Dear Group, does any of you use IM? It so much

better IMing to discuss than waiting for these mails

(read international mails) to come across! Do we do

that in this group?

Thanks and Regards,

Sindhu

--- Manu Batura <manubatura wrote:

> Dear Sindhu,

>

> I had a discussion with Krushnaji and Ash regarding

> this.

>

> It seems there was a mis-interpretation while taking

> down the lessons

> from krushnaji hence this confusion.

>

> If Sa controls house C, but does not aspect Lord of

> C as in lesson 33,

> it cannot classified as a case of Sa delay. In the

> chart provided in

> the lesson you will find that sa aspect house A, is

> LoB and controls

> house C. In this case there is no Sa delay. The

> chart has a zero due

> to sa for 9th house so that can be the reason for

> the delay.

>

> Hope it is clear and thanks for your post. It helped

> clarify things

> for me and list members.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Manu

>

> ,

> Sindhu Iyer

> <sindhu_iyer wrote:

> >

> > Dear Manu,

> > Actually you were right in your previous

> analysis, I

> > remember an old post from Krushnaji where he says

> that

> > Saturn if placed in the 10th from C (even in that

> > example Saturn was in the 8th) causes full delay.

> >

> > Here is a cut/paste to that from Lesson 33 on the

> > website:

> > Now we look at the delay causing factors

> > Saturn is the 7th lord (House B) and Mercury is

> the

> > 2nd and 11th lords (House A and House C

> respectively).

> > Saturn has no aspect on any of the houses

> concerned,

> > but Saturn aspects the 2nd house and is in the 8th

> > which is the10th from the 11th ©. This 4:10

> > relationship is very important. We know that a

> planet

> > with low points controls the 4th house. Saturn

> with

> > only 3 points will have an effect on the 11th

> > house (house C) and will therefore cause a delay.

> > Jupiter is in Cancer in the 12th and in its own

> > nakshatra. Its sight on Saturn can reduce the

> delay

> > caused by Saturn.

> > The basic delay becomes 24 to 25 years.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Sindhu

> >

> > --- Manu Batura <manubatura wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Anup,

> > >

> > > Good questions. There is an error in my analysis

> > > with respect to sa

> > > delay. Actually Sa's control of a house (A/B/C)

> is

> > > not to be

> > > considered although Sa can control LoA/LoB/LoC

> and

> > > hence can cause

> > > delay in marriage. So, in this case there is no

> Sa

> > > delay as Sa is not

> > > controlling LoA/LoB/LoC and only controlling

> house

> > > C.

> > >

> > > Regarding your second question, I am putting

> down my

> > > current

> > > understanding. If delay gets over in the antra

> of

> > > delay causing

> > > planet, then the plaent itself can give the

> event.

> > > Consider delay to

> > > be a case when the planet is restricting the

> event.

> > > When the

> > > restriction (delay) is over it is like as if a

> > > bottleneck is cleared

> > > and the planet that was initially restricting

> now

> > > gives the event.

> > > Just trying to give an analogy here. Hope it

> helps.

> > >

> > > Now, here, there is blessings in the chart

> although

> > > the blessings is

> > > marred by me being 6th lord. Hence, it may

> reduce

> > > the delay somewhat

> > > and cause sa antra to give marriage although

> > > complete reduction of

> > > delay may not be possible for this chart.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Manu

> > >

> > > ,

> > > Anup <dalh_1@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Manu,

> > > >

> > > > I have two questions

> in

> > > mind.

> > > > 1] Saturn delay

> calculated

> > > by you, like

> > > Saturn takes control of houseC,can such a

> control is

> > > valid for the delay?

> > > > 2] Jup have 7 quicky to

> > > compensate one error

> > > like Venus combust and drag this delay to

> backward

> > > in Sat antra in

> > > 2002.ok that is justifiable but How a delay

> causing

> > > planet can give

> > > event, irrespect its neither Lod, nor Loe.

> > > > I hope i may be wrong and you may be right

> > > though, but just a thought.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Anup

> > > >

> > > > Manu Batura <manubatura@> wrote:

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > Here is my analysis for pendra's marriage:

> > > >

> > > > I am getting asc as 13cap45.

> > > >

> > > > There is full delay due to Sa. It is LoA,

> aspects

> > > LoB and controls C.

> > > > Sa delay is till Aug 2005.

> > > >

> > > > There is ju moderation which takes it to 2002.

> > > There is ju delay too.

> > > > However, after moderation ju hits hs7 quickly

> (it

> > > rectifies one

> > > > problem for ve combustion).

> > > >

> > > > Sa antra is running at that time and since Sa

> > > itself is delay causing

> > > > can give the event. There is one zero in the

> chart

> > > and Sa is not LoD/E

> > > > for 7th, hence 3rd sector. ma/su PDF should

> have

> > > given the event

> > > > delayed to ve/su for +/-13 days.

> > > >

> > > > Kindly correct if I made a mistake.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > Manu

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> ,

> > > " ashsam73 "

> > > > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh, Manu, Sindhu and Group,

> > > > >

> > > > > If this chart came blindly to you, would you

> be

>

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May 8, 2007

Dear Ash,

my answer in first case is NO

in second case YES

regards

Anup

ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

Dear Anup,

Answer these questions please in Yes or No.

IF Sa is in rasi of aries or sco do we take Sa to be SD to Ma?

If Sa is in navamsa of aries or sco do we take Sa to be SD to Ma?

Cheers !!!

, Anup <dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Sindhu,

>

> I hope this must be answered by Ash atleast.Its smthing which we

were ignoring since begining ,if so.

> Regards

> Anup

>

> Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote:

> Dear Ramesh

> The reason why I said Sa was samdharmi to Mars was

> from this old post of somebody called Sach, he seemed

> t o know this system from Krushnaji I guess:

>

> The link is :

>

> He says:

> --------

> NO THIS IS ONLY FOR NAVAMANSHA CHART. NAVAMANSHA CHART

> HAVE EQUAL STATUS TO

> RASHI CHART. IF TWO PLANETS ARE IN SAME NAVAMANSHA OR

> IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF

> ONE PLANET THEY ARE SAMDHARMI. THIS LAW DO NOT APPLY

> TO RASHI CHART.

>

> Since both Sa and Mars are in the navamsa of the same

> planet venus, based on my understanding they become

> samdharmi. Here Mars is the strongest significator and

> Sa is delay causing and therefore could give in the

> antra I think.

>

> Regards,

> Sindhu

>

> --- SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Ramesh you have raised good points. I was thinking

> > on

> > the same lines although not in this much detail. The

> > question you have raised about should the antara

> > where

> > delay gets over can give the event ? If the blessing

> > in chart can negate all delay then why not guru

> > antara

> > itself. Then for that one can say by Desh kaal,

> > sthiti

> > the native being male was not ready for marriage in

> > Ju

> > antara. May be some one can clarify these things.

> >

> > Satish

> > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Ash, Anup, Manu, Bala, Upendra and all,

> > > For the verification of time of birth I was

> > > confirming the date of marriage of the native.

> > > The native said he married on 19 May 2003 in Sa

> > > antara of Ra main.

> > > I got the asc as 13 Cp 29. In this chart Ve is

> > > very close to Su thus it is combust.

> > > We can say it is powerless.

> > > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Ma

> > > in 9th house.

> > > The 7th lord from lagna, Su and Mo is in 4:10

> > and

> > > 1:7 so 30 points is accumulated by the native.

> > > There is no delay by Sa but delay is caused due

> > to

> > > Ju. This delay will be over on 13 Jun 01 when Sa

> > > antara was passing in Ra main. This delay was over

> > > in 1st sector of Sa antara and the marriage

> > happened

> > > in third sector.

> > > Actually Sa antara should not give marriage.

> > > Though Sa has only 16 points in WS for 7th. It

> > is

> > > neither the highest significator nor LoD nor LoE.

> > > Sa is NSD and Fsd to Ve.

> > > But the question is how Sa will give the event

> > > when delay is over in its antara.

> > > So this conception should be clear first .

> > > Next antara of Me also can not give marriage. Me

> > > is in house E of 7th with 3 bindus only.

> > > The following antara of Ke can give the event

> > > because Ke is SD to Ju the LoE.

> > >

> > > The blessings in the chart is present. This

> > > blessings is involved by Sa and Me.

> > > Me is 6th lord. In navamsa Me and Sa is in 4:10

> > > combination.

> > > When you consider the nullification of delay due

> > > to blessings then the native attains the normal

> > age

> > > of marriage (21 yrs) in 1st sector of Ju antara.

> > > There is one zero so the event could be pushed to

> > > 3rd sector.

> > > Ju is LoEalso so marriage could have been in 3rd

> > > sector of Ju antara.

> > > Ju is powerful in all the houses except 8th,

> > > whereas Sa is weak in 12th house.

> > >

> > > According to me marriage considering all the

> > > facts, should be in Ke antara.

> > > But it happened in Sa antara..

> > > Therefore do we need the correction in birth

> > time

> > > for this chart ?

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote

> > > Dear Ramesh, Manu, Sindhu and Group,

> > >

> > > If this chart came blindly to you, would you be

> > able

> > > to time marriage.

> > >

> > > Each time very difficult charts are brought up by

> > > senior members, but

> > > this chart can be solved by all.

> > >

> > > Please solve this chart as well. Please give clear

> > > mathematical

> > > solution using KAS.

> > >

> > > Solving such charts will give confidence and spell

> > > out the clarity of KAS.

> > >

> > > Mostly students (advanced) are bringing charts

> > that

> > > are very difficult

> > > where tark and experience is needed, at the same

> > > time, those are 20%

> > > if u go by the 80-20 rule.

> > >

> > > So here is one simple chart :-)

> > >

> > > Try to solve this if this chart came blindly to

> > you.

> > > See if Job is

> > > matching and please ask questions to Upendra as he

> > > has said he will

> > > help people learn.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > ,

> > > " upendra_agni "

> > > <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I just found that the Longitude and Latitude

> > > information is wrong.

> > > > Please find the correct information for my

> > > question below.

> > > >

> > > > Date of Birth: 19-Jan-1978

> > > > Time of Birth: 07:10 AM

> > > > Place of Birth: Kaikaluru (78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N

> > 23'

> > > 00 " )

> > > >

> > > > IMP EVENTS:

> > > > Date of Marriage : 19-May-2003 02:16 AM

> > > > First Kid Born on: 14-Dec-2004 (Baby Girl)

> > > > Second Kid Born On: 01-Jun-2006 (Baby Boy)

> > > >

> > > > Got First Job on : 05-Apr-1999

> > > > Second Job on : 21-Mar-2003

> > > > Got present job on: 08-Jan-2007

> > > >

> > > > Using KAS, I would like to know in detail,

> > > according to Dasamsa and

> > > > Rasi I would like to know which is the best

> > > suitable for me. Business

> > > > or Service?

> > > >

> > > > Please let me know if you need more details.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Upendra

> > > >

> > >

> > > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs,

> > don't

> > > allow you to download CHAT? Here's a solution!

> > >

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May 9, 2007

Dear Ash, Anup, Satish, Sindhu, Manu, Bala and all,

I read the lesson 33 several times to understand the event in its Sa antara.

I found that this chart is somewhat similar to the example chart given in the

lesson.

Hers Sa is LoA himself, he aspects Mo LoB and Sa with 2 bindus control house

C, so full delay caused by Sa.

There is also delay caused by Ju.

The delay of Sa is moderated due to the aspect of Ju on Sa.

There is blessings in the chart so delay is nullified.

Same situation takes place in the example chart also.

It is very well mentioned that since Sa apects house A so Sa can not give the

event in its antara. In this chart also Sa aspects house A and Sa is neither LoD

nor LoE nor the highest significator.

Sa is SD to Ve so Ve should give the event in place of Sa and the native is

currently passing through the Ve antara.

Should we manipulate the event after going out of line of KAS theory ?

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

Dear Satish, Anup, Ramesh, Manu and all,

Here Me is 6th lord as well. So it will not nullify all delay. So

here we can say that the native loves his father and his father is his

well wisher.

However Ve to Sun is close so he himself is not very interested in

marriage so here when Ju antra was running he was in delay period and

upendara has mentioned that he was not ready.

Now delay gets over in Sa antra say 2nd sector or 3rd but due to

blessing (lets call it a weaker blessing) the delay inside antra will

be lessened, so here due to blessing marriage will take place in Sa

antra.

Now Sa itself can't give but its SD to Ve and venus itself is strong

so it can step in.

So Saturn will give.

Now also study the pdf.

In short, we are using the same process

1) finding delay of sa - in this case none

2) finding delay of ju so here its delay

3) there is 1 zero

4) and blessing (albeit of weaker status)

So delay gets over (non nullified) in sa antra and due to blessing

marriage can take place in sa antra, now there is delay so 3rd sector

and pdf of strongst planet (+/- 13 days).

I was hoping someone would clearly write the calculations so that the

approach and calculations becomes clear.

Yes, here there is blessing involved so I also asked all to attempt

this chart as it will give/add some/to experience.

Cheers !!!

, SPK

<aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> Ramesh you have raised good points. I was thinking on

> the same lines although not in this much detail. The

> question you have raised about should the antara where

> delay gets over can give the event ? If the blessing

> in chart can negate all delay then why not guru antara

> itself. Then for that one can say by Desh kaal, sthiti

> the native being male was not ready for marriage in Ju

> antara. May be some one can clarify these things.

>

> Satish

> --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002

> wrote:

>

> > Dear Ash, Anup, Manu, Bala, Upendra and all,

> > For the verification of time of birth I was

> > confirming the date of marriage of the native.

> > The native said he married on 19 May 2003 in Sa

> > antara of Ra main.

> > I got the asc as 13 Cp 29. In this chart Ve is

> > very close to Su thus it is combust.

> > We can say it is powerless.

> > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Ma

> > in 9th house.

> > The 7th lord from lagna, Su and Mo is in 4:10 and

> > 1:7 so 30 points is accumulated by the native.

> > There is no delay by Sa but delay is caused due to

> > Ju. This delay will be over on 13 Jun 01 when Sa

> > antara was passing in Ra main. This delay was over

> > in 1st sector of Sa antara and the marriage happened

> > in third sector.

> > Actually Sa antara should not give marriage.

> > Though Sa has only 16 points in WS for 7th. It is

> > neither the highest significator nor LoD nor LoE.

> > Sa is NSD and Fsd to Ve.

> > But the question is how Sa will give the event

> > when delay is over in its antara.

> > So this conception should be clear first .

> > Next antara of Me also can not give marriage. Me

> > is in house E of 7th with 3 bindus only.

> > The following antara of Ke can give the event

> > because Ke is SD to Ju the LoE.

> >

> > The blessings in the chart is present. This

> > blessings is involved by Sa and Me.

> > Me is 6th lord. In navamsa Me and Sa is in 4:10

> > combination.

> > When you consider the nullification of delay due

> > to blessings then the native attains the normal age

> > of marriage (21 yrs) in 1st sector of Ju antara.

> > There is one zero so the event could be pushed to

> > 3rd sector.

> > Ju is LoEalso so marriage could have been in 3rd

> > sector of Ju antara.

> > Ju is powerful in all the houses except 8th,

> > whereas Sa is weak in 12th house.

> >

> > According to me marriage considering all the

> > facts, should be in Ke antara.

> > But it happened in Sa antara..

> > Therefore do we need the correction in birth time

> > for this chart ?

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote

> > Dear Ramesh, Manu, Sindhu and Group,

> >

> > If this chart came blindly to you, would you be able

> > to time marriage.

> >

> > Each time very difficult charts are brought up by

> > senior members, but

> > this chart can be solved by all.

> >

> > Please solve this chart as well. Please give clear

> > mathematical

> > solution using KAS.

> >

> > Solving such charts will give confidence and spell

> > out the clarity of KAS.

> >

> > Mostly students (advanced) are bringing charts that

> > are very difficult

> > where tark and experience is needed, at the same

> > time, those are 20%

> > if u go by the 80-20 rule.

> >

> > So here is one simple chart :-)

> >

> > Try to solve this if this chart came blindly to you.

> > See if Job is

> > matching and please ask questions to Upendra as he

> > has said he will

> > help people learn.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > ,

> > " upendra_agni "

> > <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I just found that the Longitude and Latitude

> > information is wrong.

> > > Please find the correct information for my

> > question below.

> > >

> > > Date of Birth: 19-Jan-1978

> > > Time of Birth: 07:10 AM

> > > Place of Birth: Kaikaluru (78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23'

> > 00 " )

> > >

> > > IMP EVENTS:

> > > Date of Marriage : 19-May-2003 02:16 AM

> > > First Kid Born on: 14-Dec-2004 (Baby Girl)

> > > Second Kid Born On: 01-Jun-2006 (Baby Boy)

> > >

> > > Got First Job on : 05-Apr-1999

> > > Second Job on : 21-Mar-2003

> > > Got present job on: 08-Jan-2007

> > >

> > > Using KAS, I would like to know in detail,

> > according to Dasamsa and

> > > Rasi I would like to know which is the best

> > suitable for me. Business

> > > or Service?

> > >

> > > Please let me know if you need more details.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Upendra

> > >

> >

> > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't

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Dear Ash, Ramesh, Manu, Sindhu, and Satish,

In this chart,I think HouseB is not ignored but Mars, which

is FK,can also help being LOd in 7th house.

Mars is the FK for 7th house and its strongest significator in 2nd house

having 24 points,Lod for 7th house and 2nd house.

Venus is Loe for 5th and 12th houses

Can Saturn being earliest antra, keeping in view above factors,may give the

event

in 3rd sector?

Regards

Anup

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

Dear Ash, Anup, Satish, Sindhu, Manu, Bala and all,

I read the lesson 33 several times to understand the event in its Sa antara.

I found that this chart is somewhat similar to the example chart given in the

lesson.

Hers Sa is LoA himself, he aspects Mo LoB and Sa with 2 bindus control house C,

so full delay caused by Sa.

There is also delay caused by Ju.

The delay of Sa is moderated due to the aspect of Ju on Sa.

There is blessings in the chart so delay is nullified.

Same situation takes place in the example chart also.

It is very well mentioned that since Sa apects house A so Sa can not give the

event in its antara. In this chart also Sa aspects house A and Sa is neither LoD

nor LoE nor the highest significator.

Sa is SD to Ve so Ve should give the event in place of Sa and the native is

currently passing through the Ve antara.

Should we manipulate the event after going out of line of KAS theory ?

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

Dear Satish, Anup, Ramesh, Manu and all,

Here Me is 6th lord as well. So it will not nullify all delay. So

here we can say that the native loves his father and his father is his

well wisher.

However Ve to Sun is close so he himself is not very interested in

marriage so here when Ju antra was running he was in delay period and

upendara has mentioned that he was not ready.

Now delay gets over in Sa antra say 2nd sector or 3rd but due to

blessing (lets call it a weaker blessing) the delay inside antra will

be lessened, so here due to blessing marriage will take place in Sa

antra.

Now Sa itself can't give but its SD to Ve and venus itself is strong

so it can step in.

So Saturn will give.

Now also study the pdf.

In short, we are using the same process

1) finding delay of sa - in this case none

2) finding delay of ju so here its delay

3) there is 1 zero

4) and blessing (albeit of weaker status)

So delay gets over (non nullified) in sa antra and due to blessing

marriage can take place in sa antra, now there is delay so 3rd sector

and pdf of strongst planet (+/- 13 days).

I was hoping someone would clearly write the calculations so that the

approach and calculations becomes clear.

Yes, here there is blessing involved so I also asked all to attempt

this chart as it will give/add some/to experience.

Cheers !!!

, SPK

<aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> Ramesh you have raised good points. I was thinking on

> the same lines although not in this much detail. The

> question you have raised about should the antara where

> delay gets over can give the event ? If the blessing

> in chart can negate all delay then why not guru antara

> itself. Then for that one can say by Desh kaal, sthiti

> the native being male was not ready for marriage in Ju

> antara. May be some one can clarify these things.

>

> Satish

> --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002

> wrote:

>

> > Dear Ash, Anup, Manu, Bala, Upendra and all,

> > For the verification of time of birth I was

> > confirming the date of marriage of the native.

> > The native said he married on 19 May 2003 in Sa

> > antara of Ra main.

> > I got the asc as 13 Cp 29. In this chart Ve is

> > very close to Su thus it is combust.

> > We can say it is powerless.

> > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Ma

> > in 9th house.

> > The 7th lord from lagna, Su and Mo is in 4:10 and

> > 1:7 so 30 points is accumulated by the native.

> > There is no delay by Sa but delay is caused due to

> > Ju. This delay will be over on 13 Jun 01 when Sa

> > antara was passing in Ra main. This delay was over

> > in 1st sector of Sa antara and the marriage happened

> > in third sector.

> > Actually Sa antara should not give marriage.

> > Though Sa has only 16 points in WS for 7th. It is

> > neither the highest significator nor LoD nor LoE.

> > Sa is NSD and Fsd to Ve.

> > But the question is how Sa will give the event

> > when delay is over in its antara.

> > So this conception should be clear first .

> > Next antara of Me also can not give marriage. Me

> > is in house E of 7th with 3 bindus only.

> > The following antara of Ke can give the event

> > because Ke is SD to Ju the LoE.

> >

> > The blessings in the chart is present. This

> > blessings is involved by Sa and Me.

> > Me is 6th lord. In navamsa Me and Sa is in 4:10

> > combination.

> > When you consider the nullification of delay due

> > to blessings then the native attains the normal age

> > of marriage (21 yrs) in 1st sector of Ju antara.

> > There is one zero so the event could be pushed to

> > 3rd sector.

> > Ju is LoEalso so marriage could have been in 3rd

> > sector of Ju antara.

> > Ju is powerful in all the houses except 8th,

> > whereas Sa is weak in 12th house.

> >

> > According to me marriage considering all the

> > facts, should be in Ke antara.

> > But it happened in Sa antara..

> > Therefore do we need the correction in birth time

> > for this chart ?

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote

> > Dear Ramesh, Manu, Sindhu and Group,

> >

> > If this chart came blindly to you, would you be able

> > to time marriage.

> >

> > Each time very difficult charts are brought up by

> > senior members, but

> > this chart can be solved by all.

> >

> > Please solve this chart as well. Please give clear

> > mathematical

> > solution using KAS.

> >

> > Solving such charts will give confidence and spell

> > out the clarity of KAS.

> >

> > Mostly students (advanced) are bringing charts that

> > are very difficult

> > where tark and experience is needed, at the same

> > time, those are 20%

> > if u go by the 80-20 rule.

> >

> > So here is one simple chart :-)

> >

> > Try to solve this if this chart came blindly to you.

> > See if Job is

> > matching and please ask questions to Upendra as he

> > has said he will

> > help people learn.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > ,

> > " upendra_agni "

> > <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I just found that the Longitude and Latitude

> > information is wrong.

> > > Please find the correct information for my

> > question below.

> > >

> > > Date of Birth: 19-Jan-1978

> > > Time of Birth: 07:10 AM

> > > Place of Birth: Kaikaluru (78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23'

> > 00 " )

> > >

> > > IMP EVENTS:

> > > Date of Marriage : 19-May-2003 02:16 AM

> > > First Kid Born on: 14-Dec-2004 (Baby Girl)

> > > Second Kid Born On: 01-Jun-2006 (Baby Boy)

> > >

> > > Got First Job on : 05-Apr-1999

> > > Second Job on : 21-Mar-2003

> > > Got present job on: 08-Jan-2007

> > >

> > > Using KAS, I would like to know in detail,

> > according to Dasamsa and

> > > Rasi I would like to know which is the best

> > suitable for me. Business

> > > or Service?

> > >

> > > Please let me know if you need more details.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Upendra

> > >

> >

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> > allow you to download CHAT? Here's a solution!

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Dear Ramesh,

Sa being in 10th place from 11th house will not affect delay. We might have

misunderstood Krushnaji when he was talking about the chart. Manu has written

that. Krushnaji might have said there is delay of saturn and we might have

interpreted in that way which is not right. There is DELAY OF SATURN but that

WAS IN REFERENCE TO 0 IN SAV. Kindly take a look at the SAV of the chart given

in Lesson 33.

We at some point will try to revise lesson 33, but thanks to Sindhu and Anup and

Yourself that this came up.

Now, I have given the explanation and when this chart came, I did this chart

blindly and came to right answer, then I looked at the marriage date and it was

in t-13 date range and that you can study from PDF. I have given how I

approached this chart and came to answer.

Just refer to my mail and also that of Manu. I think that will clear confusion.

With regards to your comment, about going out of line of KAS theory, in my

approach of this chart which I did blindly, I used KAS laws only. I am again

spelling it out.

1) NO delay of Saturn

2) Delay of Ju

3) Delay due to 1 zero

4) Blessing (Me rules 6th and 9th so here its weakened - so delay will not be

nullified)

5) Due to blessing the delay inside antra might be reduced.

6) Delay gets over in 2nd sector or 3rd sector (I computed this orally in my

mind when I was solving the chart)

7) Due to weak blessing and seeing that 9th lord is in 12th and its also 6th

lord so 9th and 6th house results will get enhanced so keeping that in mind I

proceeded.

8) So after some judgement call based on experience and tark, I came to a

conclusion that Saturn will give representing Venus as Sa itself can't give and

here due to blessing the marriage can happen.

9) Once the antra was decided and keeping in mind that delay was getting over in

2nd or early 3rd sector, I chose the pdf

10) Marriage happened in t-13 range of the most powerful planets for 7th.

What is it that is out of KAS theory.

Cheers !!!

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

Dear Ash, Anup, Satish, Sindhu, Manu, Bala and all,

I read the lesson 33 several times to understand the event in its Sa antara.

I found that this chart is somewhat similar to the example chart given in the

lesson.

Hers Sa is LoA himself, he aspects Mo LoB and Sa with 2 bindus control house

C, so full delay caused by Sa.

There is also delay caused by Ju.

The delay of Sa is moderated due to the aspect of Ju on Sa.

There is blessings in the chart so delay is nullified.

Same situation takes place in the example chart also.

It is very well mentioned that since Sa apects house A so Sa can not give the

event in its antara. In this chart also Sa aspects house A and Sa is neither LoD

nor LoE nor the highest significator.

Sa is SD to Ve so Ve should give the event in place of Sa and the native is

currently passing through the Ve antara.

Should we manipulate the event after going out of line of KAS theory ?

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

Dear Satish, Anup, Ramesh, Manu and all,

Here Me is 6th lord as well. So it will not nullify all delay. So

here we can say that the native loves his father and his father is his

well wisher.

However Ve to Sun is close so he himself is not very interested in

marriage so here when Ju antra was running he was in delay period and

upendara has mentioned that he was not ready.

Now delay gets over in Sa antra say 2nd sector or 3rd but due to

blessing (lets call it a weaker blessing) the delay inside antra will

be lessened, so here due to blessing marriage will take place in Sa

antra.

Now Sa itself can't give but its SD to Ve and venus itself is strong

so it can step in.

So Saturn will give.

Now also study the pdf.

In short, we are using the same process

1) finding delay of sa - in this case none

2) finding delay of ju so here its delay

3) there is 1 zero

4) and blessing (albeit of weaker status)

So delay gets over (non nullified) in sa antra and due to blessing

marriage can take place in sa antra, now there is delay so 3rd sector

and pdf of strongst planet (+/- 13 days).

I was hoping someone would clearly write the calculations so that the

approach and calculations becomes clear.

Yes, here there is blessing involved so I also asked all to attempt

this chart as it will give/add some/to experience.

Cheers !!!

, SPK

<aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> Ramesh you have raised good points. I was thinking on

> the same lines although not in this much detail. The

> question you have raised about should the antara where

> delay gets over can give the event ? If the blessing

> in chart can negate all delay then why not guru antara

> itself. Then for that one can say by Desh kaal, sthiti

> the native being male was not ready for marriage in Ju

> antara. May be some one can clarify these things.

>

> Satish

> --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002

> wrote:

>

> > Dear Ash, Anup, Manu, Bala, Upendra and all,

> > For the verification of time of birth I was

> > confirming the date of marriage of the native.

> > The native said he married on 19 May 2003 in Sa

> > antara of Ra main.

> > I got the asc as 13 Cp 29. In this chart Ve is

> > very close to Su thus it is combust.

> > We can say it is powerless.

> > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Ma

> > in 9th house.

> > The 7th lord from lagna, Su and Mo is in 4:10 and

> > 1:7 so 30 points is accumulated by the native.

> > There is no delay by Sa but delay is caused due to

> > Ju. This delay will be over on 13 Jun 01 when Sa

> > antara was passing in Ra main. This delay was over

> > in 1st sector of Sa antara and the marriage happened

> > in third sector.

> > Actually Sa antara should not give marriage.

> > Though Sa has only 16 points in WS for 7th. It is

> > neither the highest significator nor LoD nor LoE.

> > Sa is NSD and Fsd to Ve.

> > But the question is how Sa will give the event

> > when delay is over in its antara.

> > So this conception should be clear first .

> > Next antara of Me also can not give marriage. Me

> > is in house E of 7th with 3 bindus only.

> > The following antara of Ke can give the event

> > because Ke is SD to Ju the LoE.

> >

> > The blessings in the chart is present. This

> > blessings is involved by Sa and Me.

> > Me is 6th lord. In navamsa Me and Sa is in 4:10

> > combination.

> > When you consider the nullification of delay due

> > to blessings then the native attains the normal age

> > of marriage (21 yrs) in 1st sector of Ju antara.

> > There is one zero so the event could be pushed to

> > 3rd sector.

> > Ju is LoEalso so marriage could have been in 3rd

> > sector of Ju antara.

> > Ju is powerful in all the houses except 8th,

> > whereas Sa is weak in 12th house.

> >

> > According to me marriage considering all the

> > facts, should be in Ke antara.

> > But it happened in Sa antara..

> > Therefore do we need the correction in birth time

> > for this chart ?

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote

> > Dear Ramesh, Manu, Sindhu and Group,

> >

> > If this chart came blindly to you, would you be able

> > to time marriage.

> >

> > Each time very difficult charts are brought up by

> > senior members, but

> > this chart can be solved by all.

> >

> > Please solve this chart as well. Please give clear

> > mathematical

> > solution using KAS.

> >

> > Solving such charts will give confidence and spell

> > out the clarity of KAS.

> >

> > Mostly students (advanced) are bringing charts that

> > are very difficult

> > where tark and experience is needed, at the same

> > time, those are 20%

> > if u go by the 80-20 rule.

> >

> > So here is one simple chart :-)

> >

> > Try to solve this if this chart came blindly to you.

> > See if Job is

> > matching and please ask questions to Upendra as he

> > has said he will

> > help people learn.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > ,

> > " upendra_agni "

> > <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I just found that the Longitude and Latitude

> > information is wrong.

> > > Please find the correct information for my

> > question below.

> > >

> > > Date of Birth: 19-Jan-1978

> > > Time of Birth: 07:10 AM

> > > Place of Birth: Kaikaluru (78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23'

> > 00 " )

> > >

> > > IMP EVENTS:

> > > Date of Marriage : 19-May-2003 02:16 AM

> > > First Kid Born on: 14-Dec-2004 (Baby Girl)

> > > Second Kid Born On: 01-Jun-2006 (Baby Boy)

> > >

> > > Got First Job on : 05-Apr-1999

> > > Second Job on : 21-Mar-2003

> > > Got present job on: 08-Jan-2007

> > >

> > > Using KAS, I would like to know in detail,

> > according to Dasamsa and

> > > Rasi I would like to know which is the best

> > suitable for me. Business

> > > or Service?

> > >

> > > Please let me know if you need more details.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Upendra

> > >

> >

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> > allow you to download CHAT? Here's a solution!

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Dear Anup,

PERFECT.

Does that answer your question in understanding of Sach's (Sachdev) email

wherein he mentions that this law is not applicable in Rasi (i.e. question 1)

and its applicable in navamsa ( i.e. question 2).

Cheers !!!

Anup <dalh_1 wrote: Dear Ash,

my answer in first case is NO

in second case YES

regards

Anup

ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

Dear Anup,

Answer these questions please in Yes or No.

IF Sa is in rasi of aries or sco do we take Sa to be SD to Ma?

If Sa is in navamsa of aries or sco do we take Sa to be SD to Ma?

Cheers !!!

, Anup <dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Sindhu,

>

> I hope this must be answered by Ash atleast.Its smthing which we

were ignoring since begining ,if so.

> Regards

> Anup

>

> Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote:

> Dear Ramesh

> The reason why I said Sa was samdharmi to Mars was

> from this old post of somebody called Sach, he seemed

> t o know this system from Krushnaji I guess:

>

> The link is :

>

> He says:

> --------

> NO THIS IS ONLY FOR NAVAMANSHA CHART. NAVAMANSHA CHART

> HAVE EQUAL STATUS TO

> RASHI CHART. IF TWO PLANETS ARE IN SAME NAVAMANSHA OR

> IN THE NAVAMANSHA OF

> ONE PLANET THEY ARE SAMDHARMI. THIS LAW DO NOT APPLY

> TO RASHI CHART.

>

> Since both Sa and Mars are in the navamsa of the same

> planet venus, based on my understanding they become

> samdharmi. Here Mars is the strongest significator and

> Sa is delay causing and therefore could give in the

> antra I think.

>

> Regards,

> Sindhu

>

> --- SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Ramesh you have raised good points. I was thinking

> > on

> > the same lines although not in this much detail. The

> > question you have raised about should the antara

> > where

> > delay gets over can give the event ? If the blessing

> > in chart can negate all delay then why not guru

> > antara

> > itself. Then for that one can say by Desh kaal,

> > sthiti

> > the native being male was not ready for marriage in

> > Ju

> > antara. May be some one can clarify these things.

> >

> > Satish

> > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Ash, Anup, Manu, Bala, Upendra and all,

> > > For the verification of time of birth I was

> > > confirming the date of marriage of the native.

> > > The native said he married on 19 May 2003 in Sa

> > > antara of Ra main.

> > > I got the asc as 13 Cp 29. In this chart Ve is

> > > very close to Su thus it is combust.

> > > We can say it is powerless.

> > > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Ma

> > > in 9th house.

> > > The 7th lord from lagna, Su and Mo is in 4:10

> > and

> > > 1:7 so 30 points is accumulated by the native.

> > > There is no delay by Sa but delay is caused due

> > to

> > > Ju. This delay will be over on 13 Jun 01 when Sa

> > > antara was passing in Ra main. This delay was over

> > > in 1st sector of Sa antara and the marriage

> > happened

> > > in third sector.

> > > Actually Sa antara should not give marriage.

> > > Though Sa has only 16 points in WS for 7th. It

> > is

> > > neither the highest significator nor LoD nor LoE.

> > > Sa is NSD and Fsd to Ve.

> > > But the question is how Sa will give the event

> > > when delay is over in its antara.

> > > So this conception should be clear first .

> > > Next antara of Me also can not give marriage. Me

> > > is in house E of 7th with 3 bindus only.

> > > The following antara of Ke can give the event

> > > because Ke is SD to Ju the LoE.

> > >

> > > The blessings in the chart is present. This

> > > blessings is involved by Sa and Me.

> > > Me is 6th lord. In navamsa Me and Sa is in 4:10

> > > combination.

> > > When you consider the nullification of delay due

> > > to blessings then the native attains the normal

> > age

> > > of marriage (21 yrs) in 1st sector of Ju antara.

> > > There is one zero so the event could be pushed to

> > > 3rd sector.

> > > Ju is LoEalso so marriage could have been in 3rd

> > > sector of Ju antara.

> > > Ju is powerful in all the houses except 8th,

> > > whereas Sa is weak in 12th house.

> > >

> > > According to me marriage considering all the

> > > facts, should be in Ke antara.

> > > But it happened in Sa antara..

> > > Therefore do we need the correction in birth

> > time

> > > for this chart ?

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote

> > > Dear Ramesh, Manu, Sindhu and Group,

> > >

> > > If this chart came blindly to you, would you be

> > able

> > > to time marriage.

> > >

> > > Each time very difficult charts are brought up by

> > > senior members, but

> > > this chart can be solved by all.

> > >

> > > Please solve this chart as well. Please give clear

> > > mathematical

> > > solution using KAS.

> > >

> > > Solving such charts will give confidence and spell

> > > out the clarity of KAS.

> > >

> > > Mostly students (advanced) are bringing charts

> > that

> > > are very difficult

> > > where tark and experience is needed, at the same

> > > time, those are 20%

> > > if u go by the 80-20 rule.

> > >

> > > So here is one simple chart :-)

> > >

> > > Try to solve this if this chart came blindly to

> > you.

> > > See if Job is

> > > matching and please ask questions to Upendra as he

> > > has said he will

> > > help people learn.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > ,

> > > " upendra_agni "

> > > <upendra.agni@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I just found that the Longitude and Latitude

> > > information is wrong.

> > > > Please find the correct information for my

> > > question below.

> > > >

> > > > Date of Birth: 19-Jan-1978

> > > > Time of Birth: 07:10 AM

> > > > Place of Birth: Kaikaluru (78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N

> > 23'

> > > 00 " )

> > > >

> > > > IMP EVENTS:

> > > > Date of Marriage : 19-May-2003 02:16 AM

> > > > First Kid Born on: 14-Dec-2004 (Baby Girl)

> > > > Second Kid Born On: 01-Jun-2006 (Baby Boy)

> > > >

> > > > Got First Job on : 05-Apr-1999

> > > > Second Job on : 21-Mar-2003

> > > > Got present job on: 08-Jan-2007

> > > >

> > > > Using KAS, I would like to know in detail,

> > > according to Dasamsa and

> > > > Rasi I would like to know which is the best

> > > suitable for me. Business

> > > > or Service?

> > > >

> > > > Please let me know if you need more details.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Upendra

> > > >

> > >

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May 9, 2007

Dear ash-ji;

please explain me sa being 10th from 11th house what kind

or field you are talking i guess i have similar in my kundali ,pls check this i

have aries lagna & aries/1st colunm=sun,mercury,ketu// &

tauras=venus///gemini=mars///leo=jupiter///libra=moon,rahu///scorpio=saturn///

so here is this right that my

from my 11th house my saturn is in 10th house???? is this good/bad. pls tell me

thank you

rashmihpatel

Ash <ashsam73

Wednesday, May 9, 2007 9:43:00 AM

Re: Re: Dasamsa Question

Dear Ramesh,

Sa being in 10th place from 11th house will not affect delay. We might have

misunderstood Krushnaji when he was talking about the chart. Manu has written

that. Krushnaji might have said there is delay of saturn and we might have

interpreted in that way which is not right. There is DELAY OF SATURN but that

WAS IN REFERENCE TO 0 IN SAV. Kindly take a look at the SAV of the chart given

in Lesson 33.

We at some point will try to revise lesson 33, but thanks to Sindhu and Anup and

Yourself that this came up.

Now, I have given the explanation and when this chart came, I did this chart

blindly and came to right answer, then I looked at the marriage date and it was

in t-13 date range and that you can study from PDF. I have given how I

approached this chart and came to answer.

Just refer to my mail and also that of Manu. I think that will clear confusion.

With regards to your comment, about going out of line of KAS theory, in my

approach of this chart which I did blindly, I used KAS laws only. I am again

spelling it out.

1) NO delay of Saturn

2) Delay of Ju

3) Delay due to 1 zero

4) Blessing (Me rules 6th and 9th so here its weakened - so delay will not be

nullified)

5) Due to blessing the delay inside antra might be reduced.

6) Delay gets over in 2nd sector or 3rd sector (I computed this orally in my

mind when I was solving the chart)

7) Due to weak blessing and seeing that 9th lord is in 12th and its also 6th

lord so 9th and 6th house results will get enhanced so keeping that in mind I

proceeded.

8) So after some judgement call based on experience and tark, I came to a

conclusion that Saturn will give representing Venus as Sa itself can't give and

here due to blessing the marriage can happen.

9) Once the antra was decided and keeping in mind that delay was getting over in

2nd or early 3rd sector, I chose the pdf

10) Marriage happened in t-13 range of the most powerful planets for 7th.

What is it that is out of KAS theory.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Ash, Anup, Satish,

Sindhu, Manu, Bala and all,

I read the lesson 33 several times to understand the event in its Sa antara.

I found that this chart is somewhat similar to the example chart given in the

lesson.

Hers Sa is LoA himself, he aspects Mo LoB and Sa with 2 bindus control house C,

so full delay caused by Sa.

There is also delay caused by Ju.

The delay of Sa is moderated due to the aspect of Ju on Sa.

There is blessings in the chart so delay is nullified.

Same situation takes place in the example chart also.

It is very well mentioned that since Sa apects house A so Sa can not give the

event in its antara. In this chart also Sa aspects house A and Sa is neither LoD

nor LoE nor the highest significator.

Sa is SD to Ve so Ve should give the event in place of Sa and the native is

currently passing through the Ve antara.

Should we manipulate the event after going out of line of KAS theory ?

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

ashsam73 <ashsam73 > wrote:

Dear Satish, Anup, Ramesh, Manu and all,

Here Me is 6th lord as well. So it will not nullify all delay. So

here we can say that the native loves his father and his father is his

well wisher.

However Ve to Sun is close so he himself is not very interested in

marriage so here when Ju antra was running he was in delay period and

upendara has mentioned that he was not ready.

Now delay gets over in Sa antra say 2nd sector or 3rd but due to

blessing (lets call it a weaker blessing) the delay inside antra will

be lessened, so here due to blessing marriage will take place in Sa

antra.

Now Sa itself can't give but its SD to Ve and venus itself is strong

so it can step in.

So Saturn will give.

Now also study the pdf.

In short, we are using the same process

1) finding delay of sa - in this case none

2) finding delay of ju so here its delay

3) there is 1 zero

4) and blessing (albeit of weaker status)

So delay gets over (non nullified) in sa antra and due to blessing

marriage can take place in sa antra, now there is delay so 3rd sector

and pdf of strongst planet (+/- 13 days).

I was hoping someone would clearly write the calculations so that the

approach and calculations becomes clear.

Yes, here there is blessing involved so I also asked all to attempt

this chart as it will give/add some/to experience.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, SPK

<aquaris_rising@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> Ramesh you have raised good points. I was thinking on

> the same lines although not in this much detail. The

> question you have raised about should the antara where

> delay gets over can give the event ? If the blessing

> in chart can negate all delay then why not guru antara

> itself. Then for that one can say by Desh kaal, sthiti

> the native being male was not ready for marriage in Ju

> antara. May be some one can clarify these things.

>

> Satish

> --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ ...>

> wrote:

>

> > Dear Ash, Anup, Manu, Bala, Upendra and all,

> > For the verification of time of birth I was

> > confirming the date of marriage of the native.

> > The native said he married on 19 May 2003 in Sa

> > antara of Ra main.

> > I got the asc as 13 Cp 29. In this chart Ve is

> > very close to Su thus it is combust.

> > We can say it is powerless.

> > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Ma

> > in 9th house.

> > The 7th lord from lagna, Su and Mo is in 4:10 and

> > 1:7 so 30 points is accumulated by the native.

> > There is no delay by Sa but delay is caused due to

> > Ju. This delay will be over on 13 Jun 01 when Sa

> > antara was passing in Ra main. This delay was over

> > in 1st sector of Sa antara and the marriage happened

> > in third sector.

> > Actually Sa antara should not give marriage.

> > Though Sa has only 16 points in WS for 7th. It is

> > neither the highest significator nor LoD nor LoE.

> > Sa is NSD and Fsd to Ve.

> > But the question is how Sa will give the event

> > when delay is over in its antara.

> > So this conception should be clear first .

> > Next antara of Me also can not give marriage. Me

> > is in house E of 7th with 3 bindus only.

> > The following antara of Ke can give the event

> > because Ke is SD to Ju the LoE.

> >

> > The blessings in the chart is present. This

> > blessings is involved by Sa and Me.

> > Me is 6th lord. In navamsa Me and Sa is in 4:10

> > combination.

> > When you consider the nullification of delay due

> > to blessings then the native attains the normal age

> > of marriage (21 yrs) in 1st sector of Ju antara.

> > There is one zero so the event could be pushed to

> > 3rd sector.

> > Ju is LoEalso so marriage could have been in 3rd

> > sector of Ju antara.

> > Ju is powerful in all the houses except 8th,

> > whereas Sa is weak in 12th house.

> >

> > According to me marriage considering all the

> > facts, should be in Ke antara.

> > But it happened in Sa antara..

> > Therefore do we need the correction in birth time

> > for this chart ?

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > ashsam73 <ashsam73@.. .> wrote

> > Dear Ramesh, Manu, Sindhu and Group,

> >

> > If this chart came blindly to you, would you be able

> > to time marriage.

> >

> > Each time very difficult charts are brought up by

> > senior members, but

> > this chart can be solved by all.

> >

> > Please solve this chart as well. Please give clear

> > mathematical

> > solution using KAS.

> >

> > Solving such charts will give confidence and spell

> > out the clarity of KAS.

> >

> > Mostly students (advanced) are bringing charts that

> > are very difficult

> > where tark and experience is needed, at the same

> > time, those are 20%

> > if u go by the 80-20 rule.

> >

> > So here is one simple chart :-)

> >

> > Try to solve this if this chart came blindly to you.

> > See if Job is

> > matching and please ask questions to Upendra as he

> > has said he will

> > help people learn.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com,

> > " upendra_agni "

> > <upendra.agni@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I just found that the Longitude and Latitude

> > information is wrong.

> > > Please find the correct information for my

> > question below.

> > >

> > > Date of Birth: 19-Jan-1978

> > > Time of Birth: 07:10 AM

> > > Place of Birth: Kaikaluru (78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23'

> > 00 " )

> > >

> > > IMP EVENTS:

> > > Date of Marriage : 19-May-2003 02:16 AM

> > > First Kid Born on: 14-Dec-2004 (Baby Girl)

> > > Second Kid Born On: 01-Jun-2006 (Baby Boy)

> > >

> > > Got First Job on : 05-Apr-1999

> > > Second Job on : 21-Mar-2003

> > > Got present job on: 08-Jan-2007

> > >

> > > Using KAS, I would like to know in detail,

> > according to Dasamsa and

> > > Rasi I would like to know which is the best

> > suitable for me. Business

> > > or Service?

> > >

> > > Please let me know if you need more details.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Upendra

> > >

> >

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<rashmihpatel wrote:

>

> Dear ash-ji;

> please explain me sa being 10th from 11th house

what kind or field you are talking i guess i have similar in my

kundali ,pls check this i have aries lagna & aries/1st

colunm=sun,mercury,ketu// &

>

tauras=venus///gemini=mars///leo=jupiter///libra=moon,rahu///scorpio=saturn///

so here is this right that my

> from my 11th house my saturn is in 10th house???? is this good/bad.

pls tell me

> thank you

> rashmihpatel

>

> Ash <ashsam73

>

> Wednesday, May 9, 2007 9:43:00 AM

> Re: Re: Dasamsa Question

>

> Dear Ramesh,

> Sa being in 10th place from 11th house will not affect delay. We

might have misunderstood Krushnaji when he was talking about the

chart. Manu has written that. Krushnaji might have said there is delay

of saturn and we might have interpreted in that way which is not

right. There is DELAY OF SATURN but that WAS IN REFERENCE TO 0 IN SAV.

Kindly take a look at the SAV of the chart given in Lesson 33.

>

> We at some point will try to revise lesson 33, but thanks to Sindhu

and Anup and Yourself that this came up.

>

> Now, I have given the explanation and when this chart came, I did

this chart blindly and came to right answer, then I looked at the

marriage date and it was in t-13 date range and that you can study

from PDF. I have given how I approached this chart and came to answer.

>

> Just refer to my mail and also that of Manu. I think that will clear

confusion.

>

> With regards to your comment, about going out of line of KAS theory,

in my approach of this chart which I did blindly, I used KAS laws

only. I am again spelling it out.

>

> 1) NO delay of Saturn

> 2) Delay of Ju

> 3) Delay due to 1 zero

> 4) Blessing (Me rules 6th and 9th so here its weakened - so delay

will not be nullified)

> 5) Due to blessing the delay inside antra might be reduced.

> 6) Delay gets over in 2nd sector or 3rd sector (I computed this

orally in my mind when I was solving the chart)

> 7) Due to weak blessing and seeing that 9th lord is in 12th and its

also 6th lord so 9th and 6th house results will get enhanced so

keeping that in mind I proceeded.

> 8) So after some judgement call based on experience and tark, I came

to a conclusion that Saturn will give representing Venus as Sa itself

can't give and here due to blessing the marriage can happen.

> 9) Once the antra was decided and keeping in mind that delay was

getting over in 2nd or early 3rd sector, I chose the pdf

> 10) Marriage happened in t-13 range of the most powerful planets for

7th.

>

> What is it that is out of KAS theory.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

>

> ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Ash,

Anup, Satish, Sindhu, Manu, Bala and all,

> I read the lesson 33 several times to understand the event in its Sa

antara.

> I found that this chart is somewhat similar to the example chart

given in the lesson.

> Hers Sa is LoA himself, he aspects Mo LoB and Sa with 2 bindus

control house C, so full delay caused by Sa.

> There is also delay caused by Ju.

> The delay of Sa is moderated due to the aspect of Ju on Sa.

> There is blessings in the chart so delay is nullified.

> Same situation takes place in the example chart also.

> It is very well mentioned that since Sa apects house A so Sa can not

give the event in its antara. In this chart also Sa aspects house A

and Sa is neither LoD nor LoE nor the highest significator.

> Sa is SD to Ve so Ve should give the event in place of Sa and the

native is currently passing through the Ve antara.

> Should we manipulate the event after going out of line of KAS theory ?

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> ashsam73 <ashsam73 > wrote:

> Dear Satish, Anup, Ramesh, Manu and all,

>

> Here Me is 6th lord as well. So it will not nullify all delay. So

> here we can say that the native loves his father and his father is his

> well wisher.

>

> However Ve to Sun is close so he himself is not very interested in

> marriage so here when Ju antra was running he was in delay period and

> upendara has mentioned that he was not ready.

>

> Now delay gets over in Sa antra say 2nd sector or 3rd but due to

> blessing (lets call it a weaker blessing) the delay inside antra will

> be lessened, so here due to blessing marriage will take place in Sa

> antra.

>

> Now Sa itself can't give but its SD to Ve and venus itself is strong

> so it can step in.

>

> So Saturn will give.

>

> Now also study the pdf.

>

> In short, we are using the same process

>

> 1) finding delay of sa - in this case none

> 2) finding delay of ju so here its delay

> 3) there is 1 zero

> 4) and blessing (albeit of weaker status)

>

> So delay gets over (non nullified) in sa antra and due to blessing

> marriage can take place in sa antra, now there is delay so 3rd sector

> and pdf of strongst planet (+/- 13 days).

>

> I was hoping someone would clearly write the calculations so that the

> approach and calculations becomes clear.

>

> Yes, here there is blessing involved so I also asked all to attempt

> this chart as it will give/add some/to experience.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, SPK

> <aquaris_rising@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Ramesh you have raised good points. I was thinking on

> > the same lines although not in this much detail. The

> > question you have raised about should the antara where

> > delay gets over can give the event ? If the blessing

> > in chart can negate all delay then why not guru antara

> > itself. Then for that one can say by Desh kaal, sthiti

> > the native being male was not ready for marriage in Ju

> > antara. May be some one can clarify these things.

> >

> > Satish

> > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ ...>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Ash, Anup, Manu, Bala, Upendra and all,

> > > For the verification of time of birth I was

> > > confirming the date of marriage of the native.

> > > The native said he married on 19 May 2003 in Sa

> > > antara of Ra main.

> > > I got the asc as 13 Cp 29. In this chart Ve is

> > > very close to Su thus it is combust.

> > > We can say it is powerless.

> > > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Ma

> > > in 9th house.

> > > The 7th lord from lagna, Su and Mo is in 4:10 and

> > > 1:7 so 30 points is accumulated by the native.

> > > There is no delay by Sa but delay is caused due to

> > > Ju. This delay will be over on 13 Jun 01 when Sa

> > > antara was passing in Ra main. This delay was over

> > > in 1st sector of Sa antara and the marriage happened

> > > in third sector.

> > > Actually Sa antara should not give marriage.

> > > Though Sa has only 16 points in WS for 7th. It is

> > > neither the highest significator nor LoD nor LoE.

> > > Sa is NSD and Fsd to Ve.

> > > But the question is how Sa will give the event

> > > when delay is over in its antara.

> > > So this conception should be clear first .

> > > Next antara of Me also can not give marriage. Me

> > > is in house E of 7th with 3 bindus only.

> > > The following antara of Ke can give the event

> > > because Ke is SD to Ju the LoE.

> > >

> > > The blessings in the chart is present. This

> > > blessings is involved by Sa and Me.

> > > Me is 6th lord. In navamsa Me and Sa is in 4:10

> > > combination.

> > > When you consider the nullification of delay due

> > > to blessings then the native attains the normal age

> > > of marriage (21 yrs) in 1st sector of Ju antara.

> > > There is one zero so the event could be pushed to

> > > 3rd sector.

> > > Ju is LoEalso so marriage could have been in 3rd

> > > sector of Ju antara.

> > > Ju is powerful in all the houses except 8th,

> > > whereas Sa is weak in 12th house.

> > >

> > > According to me marriage considering all the

> > > facts, should be in Ke antara.

> > > But it happened in Sa antara..

> > > Therefore do we need the correction in birth time

> > > for this chart ?

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@ .> wrote

> > > Dear Ramesh, Manu, Sindhu and Group,

> > >

> > > If this chart came blindly to you, would you be able

> > > to time marriage.

> > >

> > > Each time very difficult charts are brought up by

> > > senior members, but

> > > this chart can be solved by all.

> > >

> > > Please solve this chart as well. Please give clear

> > > mathematical

> > > solution using KAS.

> > >

> > > Solving such charts will give confidence and spell

> > > out the clarity of KAS.

> > >

> > > Mostly students (advanced) are bringing charts that

> > > are very difficult

> > > where tark and experience is needed, at the same

> > > time, those are 20%

> > > if u go by the 80-20 rule.

> > >

> > > So here is one simple chart :-)

> > >

> > > Try to solve this if this chart came blindly to you.

> > > See if Job is

> > > matching and please ask questions to Upendra as he

> > > has said he will

> > > help people learn.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com,

> > > " upendra_agni "

> > > <upendra.agni@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I just found that the Longitude and Latitude

> > > information is wrong.

> > > > Please find the correct information for my

> > > question below.

> > > >

> > > > Date of Birth: 19-Jan-1978

> > > > Time of Birth: 07:10 AM

> > > > Place of Birth: Kaikaluru (78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23'

> > > 00 " )

> > > >

> > > > IMP EVENTS:

> > > > Date of Marriage : 19-May-2003 02:16 AM

> > > > First Kid Born on: 14-Dec-2004 (Baby Girl)

> > > > Second Kid Born On: 01-Jun-2006 (Baby Boy)

> > > >

> > > > Got First Job on : 05-Apr-1999

> > > > Second Job on : 21-Mar-2003

> > > > Got present job on: 08-Jan-2007

> > > >

> > > > Using KAS, I would like to know in detail,

> > > according to Dasamsa and

> > > > Rasi I would like to know which is the best

> > > suitable for me. Business

> > > > or Service?

> > > >

> > > > Please let me know if you need more details.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Upendra

> > > >

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't

> > > allow you to download CHAT? Here's a solution!

> > >

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> > > removed]

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Dear Ash,

Sorry if I am reinventing this wheel again, but

please let me ask this one:

1]In the previous chart that I gave, delay got over in

Ju antara, one sector was left, there were blessings

present in the chart. Those blessing were marred by

6th lord effect. Jupiter was LOD in that chart and yet

we avoided that antara because it was in delay period.

2]In this chart, delay gets over in Sa first antra, 2

sectors are left and one zero, there are blessings

marred by 6th lord. And yet, we picked the antra

because of blessings...

When I had to do this chart, if I had not known the

marriage time, I probably would have skipped this

antra based on the first example.

Is there a specific reason why for the first example

we skipped it and for the second we did not....

If Ash you could clarify, that would be just great!

Regards

Sindhu

--- Ash <ashsam73 wrote:

> Dear Ramesh,

> Sa being in 10th place from 11th house will not

> affect delay. We might have misunderstood Krushnaji

> when he was talking about the chart. Manu has

> written that. Krushnaji might have said there is

> delay of saturn and we might have interpreted in

> that way which is not right. There is DELAY OF

> SATURN but that WAS IN REFERENCE TO 0 IN SAV.

> Kindly take a look at the SAV of the chart given in

> Lesson 33.

>

> We at some point will try to revise lesson 33, but

> thanks to Sindhu and Anup and Yourself that this

> came up.

>

> Now, I have given the explanation and when this

> chart came, I did this chart blindly and came to

> right answer, then I looked at the marriage date and

> it was in t-13 date range and that you can study

> from PDF. I have given how I approached this chart

> and came to answer.

>

> Just refer to my mail and also that of Manu. I

> think that will clear confusion.

>

> With regards to your comment, about going out of

> line of KAS theory, in my approach of this chart

> which I did blindly, I used KAS laws only. I am

> again spelling it out.

>

> 1) NO delay of Saturn

> 2) Delay of Ju

> 3) Delay due to 1 zero

> 4) Blessing (Me rules 6th and 9th so here its

> weakened - so delay will not be nullified)

> 5) Due to blessing the delay inside antra might be

> reduced.

> 6) Delay gets over in 2nd sector or 3rd sector (I

> computed this orally in my mind when I was solving

> the chart)

> 7) Due to weak blessing and seeing that 9th lord is

> in 12th and its also 6th lord so 9th and 6th house

> results will get enhanced so keeping that in mind I

> proceeded.

> 8) So after some judgement call based on experience

> and tark, I came to a conclusion that Saturn will

> give representing Venus as Sa itself can't give and

> here due to blessing the marriage can happen.

> 9) Once the antra was decided and keeping in mind

> that delay was getting over in 2nd or early 3rd

> sector, I chose the pdf

> 10) Marriage happened in t-13 range of the most

> powerful planets for 7th.

>

> What is it that is out of KAS theory.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

> Dear Ash, Anup,

> Satish, Sindhu, Manu, Bala and all,

> I read the lesson 33 several times to understand

> the event in its Sa antara.

> I found that this chart is somewhat similar to

> the example chart given in the lesson.

> Hers Sa is LoA himself, he aspects Mo LoB and Sa

> with 2 bindus control house C, so full delay caused

> by Sa.

> There is also delay caused by Ju.

> The delay of Sa is moderated due to the aspect of

> Ju on Sa.

> There is blessings in the chart so delay is

> nullified.

> Same situation takes place in the example chart

> also.

> It is very well mentioned that since Sa apects

> house A so Sa can not give the event in its antara.

> In this chart also Sa aspects house A and Sa is

> neither LoD nor LoE nor the highest significator.

> Sa is SD to Ve so Ve should give the event in

> place of Sa and the native is currently passing

> through the Ve antara.

> Should we manipulate the event after going out of

> line of KAS theory ?

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

> Dear Satish, Anup, Ramesh, Manu and all,

>

> Here Me is 6th lord as well. So it will not nullify

> all delay. So

> here we can say that the native loves his father

> and his father is his

> well wisher.

>

> However Ve to Sun is close so he himself is not

> very interested in

> marriage so here when Ju antra was running he was

> in delay period and

> upendara has mentioned that he was not ready.

>

> Now delay gets over in Sa antra say 2nd sector or

> 3rd but due to

> blessing (lets call it a weaker blessing) the delay

> inside antra will

> be lessened, so here due to blessing marriage will

> take place in Sa

> antra.

>

> Now Sa itself can't give but its SD to Ve and venus

> itself is strong

> so it can step in.

>

> So Saturn will give.

>

> Now also study the pdf.

>

> In short, we are using the same process

>

> 1) finding delay of sa - in this case none

> 2) finding delay of ju so here its delay

> 3) there is 1 zero

> 4) and blessing (albeit of weaker status)

>

> So delay gets over (non nullified) in sa antra and

> due to blessing

> marriage can take place in sa antra, now there is

> delay so 3rd sector

> and pdf of strongst planet (+/- 13 days).

>

> I was hoping someone would clearly write the

> calculations so that the

> approach and calculations becomes clear.

>

> Yes, here there is blessing involved so I also

> asked all to attempt

> this chart as it will give/add some/to experience.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> ,

> SPK

> <aquaris_rising wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Ramesh you have raised good points. I was

> thinking on

> > the same lines although not in this much detail.

> The

> > question you have raised about should the antara

> where

> > delay gets over can give the event ? If the

> blessing

> > in chart can negate all delay then why not guru

> antara

> > itself. Then for that one can say by Desh kaal,

> sthiti

> > the native being male was not ready for marriage

> in Ju

> > antara. May be some one can clarify these things.

> >

> > Satish

> > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Ash, Anup, Manu, Bala, Upendra and all,

> > > For the verification of time of birth I was

> > > confirming the date of marriage of the native.

> > > The native said he married on 19 May 2003 in Sa

> > > antara of Ra main.

> > > I got the asc as 13 Cp 29. In this chart Ve is

> > > very close to Su thus it is combust.

> > > We can say it is powerless.

> > > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by

> Ma

> > > in 9th house.

> > > The 7th lord from lagna, Su and Mo is in 4:10

> and

> > > 1:7 so 30 points is accumulated by the native.

> > > There is no delay by Sa but delay is caused due

> to

> > > Ju. This delay will be over on 13 Jun 01 when

> Sa

> > > antara was passing in Ra main. This delay was

> over

> > > in 1st sector of Sa antara and the marriage

> happened

> > > in third sector.

> > > Actually Sa antara should not give marriage.

> > > Though Sa has only 16 points in WS for 7th. It

> is

> > > neither the highest significator nor LoD nor

> LoE.

> > > Sa is NSD and Fsd to Ve.

> > > But the question is how Sa will give the event

> > > when delay is over in its antara.

> > > So this conception should be clear first .

>

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May 9, 2007

Good question Sindhu.

Ramesh Mishra

--- Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote:

> Dear Ash,

> Sorry if I am reinventing this wheel again, but

> please let me ask this one:

>

> 1]In the previous chart that I gave, delay got over

> in

> Ju antara, one sector was left, there were blessings

> present in the chart. Those blessing were marred by

> 6th lord effect. Jupiter was LOD in that chart and

> yet

> we avoided that antara because it was in delay

> period.

>

> 2]In this chart, delay gets over in Sa first antra,

> 2

> sectors are left and one zero, there are blessings

> marred by 6th lord. And yet, we picked the antra

> because of blessings...

>

> When I had to do this chart, if I had not known the

> marriage time, I probably would have skipped this

> antra based on the first example.

> Is there a specific reason why for the first example

> we skipped it and for the second we did not....

>

> If Ash you could clarify, that would be just great!

>

> Regards

> Sindhu

>

> --- Ash <ashsam73 wrote:

>

> > Dear Ramesh,

> > Sa being in 10th place from 11th house will not

> > affect delay. We might have misunderstood

> Krushnaji

> > when he was talking about the chart. Manu has

> > written that. Krushnaji might have said there is

> > delay of saturn and we might have interpreted in

> > that way which is not right. There is DELAY OF

> > SATURN but that WAS IN REFERENCE TO 0 IN SAV.

> > Kindly take a look at the SAV of the chart given

> in

> > Lesson 33.

> >

> > We at some point will try to revise lesson 33, but

> > thanks to Sindhu and Anup and Yourself that this

> > came up.

> >

> > Now, I have given the explanation and when this

> > chart came, I did this chart blindly and came to

> > right answer, then I looked at the marriage date

> and

> > it was in t-13 date range and that you can study

> > from PDF. I have given how I approached this

> chart

> > and came to answer.

> >

> > Just refer to my mail and also that of Manu. I

> > think that will clear confusion.

> >

> > With regards to your comment, about going out of

> > line of KAS theory, in my approach of this chart

> > which I did blindly, I used KAS laws only. I am

> > again spelling it out.

> >

> > 1) NO delay of Saturn

> > 2) Delay of Ju

> > 3) Delay due to 1 zero

> > 4) Blessing (Me rules 6th and 9th so here its

> > weakened - so delay will not be nullified)

> > 5) Due to blessing the delay inside antra might be

> > reduced.

> > 6) Delay gets over in 2nd sector or 3rd sector (I

> > computed this orally in my mind when I was solving

> > the chart)

> > 7) Due to weak blessing and seeing that 9th lord

> is

> > in 12th and its also 6th lord so 9th and 6th house

> > results will get enhanced so keeping that in mind

> I

> > proceeded.

> > 8) So after some judgement call based on

> experience

> > and tark, I came to a conclusion that Saturn will

> > give representing Venus as Sa itself can't give

> and

> > here due to blessing the marriage can happen.

> > 9) Once the antra was decided and keeping in mind

> > that delay was getting over in 2nd or early 3rd

> > sector, I chose the pdf

> > 10) Marriage happened in t-13 range of the most

> > powerful planets for 7th.

> >

> > What is it that is out of KAS theory.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002

> wrote:

> > Dear Ash, Anup,

> > Satish, Sindhu, Manu, Bala and all,

> > I read the lesson 33 several times to

> understand

> > the event in its Sa antara.

> > I found that this chart is somewhat similar to

> > the example chart given in the lesson.

> > Hers Sa is LoA himself, he aspects Mo LoB and

> Sa

> > with 2 bindus control house C, so full delay

> caused

> > by Sa.

> > There is also delay caused by Ju.

> > The delay of Sa is moderated due to the aspect

> of

> > Ju on Sa.

> > There is blessings in the chart so delay is

> > nullified.

> > Same situation takes place in the example

> chart

> > also.

> > It is very well mentioned that since Sa apects

> > house A so Sa can not give the event in its

> antara.

> > In this chart also Sa aspects house A and Sa is

> > neither LoD nor LoE nor the highest significator.

> > Sa is SD to Ve so Ve should give the event in

> > place of Sa and the native is currently passing

> > through the Ve antara.

> > Should we manipulate the event after going out

> of

> > line of KAS theory ?

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

> > Dear Satish, Anup, Ramesh, Manu and

> all,

> >

> > Here Me is 6th lord as well. So it will not

> nullify

> > all delay. So

> > here we can say that the native loves his father

> > and his father is his

> > well wisher.

> >

> > However Ve to Sun is close so he himself is not

> > very interested in

> > marriage so here when Ju antra was running he was

> > in delay period and

> > upendara has mentioned that he was not ready.

> >

> > Now delay gets over in Sa antra say 2nd sector or

> > 3rd but due to

> > blessing (lets call it a weaker blessing) the

> delay

> > inside antra will

> > be lessened, so here due to blessing marriage

> will

> > take place in Sa

> > antra.

> >

> > Now Sa itself can't give but its SD to Ve and

> venus

> > itself is strong

> > so it can step in.

> >

> > So Saturn will give.

> >

> > Now also study the pdf.

> >

> > In short, we are using the same process

> >

> > 1) finding delay of sa - in this case none

> > 2) finding delay of ju so here its delay

> > 3) there is 1 zero

> > 4) and blessing (albeit of weaker status)

> >

> > So delay gets over (non nullified) in sa antra

> and

> > due to blessing

> > marriage can take place in sa antra, now there is

> > delay so 3rd sector

> > and pdf of strongst planet (+/- 13 days).

> >

> > I was hoping someone would clearly write the

> > calculations so that the

> > approach and calculations becomes clear.

> >

> > Yes, here there is blessing involved so I also

> > asked all to attempt

> > this chart as it will give/add some/to

> experience.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > ,

> > SPK

>

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Dear Sindhu,

In previous case, just study the blessing giving planet and its status

too. Venus to sun is 43, Ve conjoins Sa and Sa asp Luminary. That is

the planet giving blessing.

Next, see overall chart as well. Power for 5th and 12th of Ju as well.

Now say Ju antra came and more than 1 sector has passed, and in a

chart where Venus who in this case is that Karak and 9th lord itself

is spoilt status wise or u can say that its weakened the blessing, so

here in this case also focus on 5th and 12th house power of Ju.

Ju has -12 power in 5th house and 0 in 12th house, so 7th power is

high and more than 1 sector has passsed, but the lady is not feeling

like marrying as 5th and 12th are low and blessing giving planet

itself might infact cause delay. I think its given in lesson too that

if 2nd house and venus are badly afflicted then that also might cause

delay. Here 2nd lord and 9th lord are both spoilt by status.

However there is a blessing but this blessing might not nullify delay

so here then we study Ju itself. Yes, now we say that if more portion

of antra is over in delay period we skip it.

Here Ju is LoD so it will try, but at the same time since 2nd lord and

Venus and the planet involved in blessing itself is weakened then that

might cause slight delay due to native herself as 5th and 12th points

are low and it might mean back then in 1982 or 1983 based on family

etc her father might give her more freedom rather than push her into

marraige. Now say if 5th and 12th points were high as well then she

herself would be more keen to marry but its not so. 5th has -12

points and basic power of Ju is also 8 only.

Then on top of that she is brilliant and is more career minded as well

just see her DBCE points 24:30:35:45 from lagna and sun.

So here so many factors are playing a role on why there might not be a

marriage. Yes, there might have been proposals or the antra might

have tried, just find out if there was something like that during the

last 2 sectors of Ju but she might not have been interested.

Now, also study 6th and 10th house points are high so she might want

to focus on her career at that point as well.

Generally we say that if most of the antra is over and delay is over

then, then in that case we skip it.

When say more than half antra is left then here we have to study keenly.

I mean, when Krushanji did this chart he came straight to Ketu antra

and he did not know the timing of this marriage either. Manu and I

gave him this chart and asked him to find out and he came straight to

ketu antra.

In this case 1 full sector is over and delay period is over. Now this

girl does not have any emotions nor feelings for marriage 5th and 12th

points when delay is over, on top of that karak itself is spoilt so

that might cause delay as well or say less intersest in a girl who is

brilliant and career minded and is a go getter and at the same time

6th and 10th points are up, helping or creating an atmosphere of job

and authority and at the same time 5th and 12th emotions are low and

the blessing is there which means her father is her well wisher and

loves her no doubt and she must also love her father but her father is

giving her the freedom so no push to marry or force.

In upendra's case its different. Me is 6th and 9th lord and its in

12th house and in SAV both 6th and 9th house power is 4 bindus. Me is

again situated in 12th house as well. So here 6th lord influence is

there but in previous case 6th lord is with venus AND venus status is

spoilt.

So here you have to use some psychology when u are at such a point and

thats when u study keenly whats going on in all 12 houses.

Hope that helps,

Cheers !!!

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, Sindhu Iyer

<sindhu_iyer wrote:

>

> Dear Ash,

> Sorry if I am reinventing this wheel again, but

> please let me ask this one:

>

> 1]In the previous chart that I gave, delay got over in

> Ju antara, one sector was left, there were blessings

> present in the chart. Those blessing were marred by

> 6th lord effect. Jupiter was LOD in that chart and yet

> we avoided that antara because it was in delay period.

>

> 2]In this chart, delay gets over in Sa first antra, 2

> sectors are left and one zero, there are blessings

> marred by 6th lord. And yet, we picked the antra

> because of blessings...

>

> When I had to do this chart, if I had not known the

> marriage time, I probably would have skipped this

> antra based on the first example.

> Is there a specific reason why for the first example

> we skipped it and for the second we did not....

>

> If Ash you could clarify, that would be just great!

>

> Regards

> Sindhu

>

> --- Ash <ashsam73 wrote:

>

> > Dear Ramesh,

> > Sa being in 10th place from 11th house will not

> > affect delay. We might have misunderstood Krushnaji

> > when he was talking about the chart. Manu has

> > written that. Krushnaji might have said there is

> > delay of saturn and we might have interpreted in

> > that way which is not right. There is DELAY OF

> > SATURN but that WAS IN REFERENCE TO 0 IN SAV.

> > Kindly take a look at the SAV of the chart given in

> > Lesson 33.

> >

> > We at some point will try to revise lesson 33, but

> > thanks to Sindhu and Anup and Yourself that this

> > came up.

> >

> > Now, I have given the explanation and when this

> > chart came, I did this chart blindly and came to

> > right answer, then I looked at the marriage date and

> > it was in t-13 date range and that you can study

> > from PDF. I have given how I approached this chart

> > and came to answer.

> >

> > Just refer to my mail and also that of Manu. I

> > think that will clear confusion.

> >

> > With regards to your comment, about going out of

> > line of KAS theory, in my approach of this chart

> > which I did blindly, I used KAS laws only. I am

> > again spelling it out.

> >

> > 1) NO delay of Saturn

> > 2) Delay of Ju

> > 3) Delay due to 1 zero

> > 4) Blessing (Me rules 6th and 9th so here its

> > weakened - so delay will not be nullified)

> > 5) Due to blessing the delay inside antra might be

> > reduced.

> > 6) Delay gets over in 2nd sector or 3rd sector (I

> > computed this orally in my mind when I was solving

> > the chart)

> > 7) Due to weak blessing and seeing that 9th lord is

> > in 12th and its also 6th lord so 9th and 6th house

> > results will get enhanced so keeping that in mind I

> > proceeded.

> > 8) So after some judgement call based on experience

> > and tark, I came to a conclusion that Saturn will

> > give representing Venus as Sa itself can't give and

> > here due to blessing the marriage can happen.

> > 9) Once the antra was decided and keeping in mind

> > that delay was getting over in 2nd or early 3rd

> > sector, I chose the pdf

> > 10) Marriage happened in t-13 range of the most

> > powerful planets for 7th.

> >

> > What is it that is out of KAS theory.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote:

> > Dear Ash, Anup,

> > Satish, Sindhu, Manu, Bala and all,

> > I read the lesson 33 several times to understand

> > the event in its Sa antara.

> > I found that this chart is somewhat similar to

> > the example chart given in the lesson.

> > Hers Sa is LoA himself, he aspects Mo LoB and Sa

> > with 2 bindus control house C, so full delay caused

> > by Sa.

> > There is also delay caused by Ju.

> > The delay of Sa is moderated due to the aspect of

> > Ju on Sa.

> > There is blessings in the chart so delay is

> > nullified.

> > Same situation takes place in the example chart

> > also.

> > It is very well mentioned that since Sa apects

> > house A so Sa can not give the event in its antara.

> > In this chart also Sa aspects house A and Sa is

> > neither LoD nor LoE nor the highest significator.

> > Sa is SD to Ve so Ve should give the event in

> > place of Sa and the native is currently passing

> > through the Ve antara.

> > Should we manipulate the event after going out of

> > line of KAS theory ?

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

> > Dear Satish, Anup, Ramesh, Manu and all,

> >

> > Here Me is 6th lord as well. So it will not nullify

> > all delay. So

> > here we can say that the native loves his father

> > and his father is his

> > well wisher.

> >

> > However Ve to Sun is close so he himself is not

> > very interested in

> > marriage so here when Ju antra was running he was

> > in delay period and

> > upendara has mentioned that he was not ready.

> >

> > Now delay gets over in Sa antra say 2nd sector or

> > 3rd but due to

> > blessing (lets call it a weaker blessing) the delay

> > inside antra will

> > be lessened, so here due to blessing marriage will

> > take place in Sa

> > antra.

> >

> > Now Sa itself can't give but its SD to Ve and venus

> > itself is strong

> > so it can step in.

> >

> > So Saturn will give.

> >

> > Now also study the pdf.

> >

> > In short, we are using the same process

> >

> > 1) finding delay of sa - in this case none

> > 2) finding delay of ju so here its delay

> > 3) there is 1 zero

> > 4) and blessing (albeit of weaker status)

> >

> > So delay gets over (non nullified) in sa antra and

> > due to blessing

> > marriage can take place in sa antra, now there is

> > delay so 3rd sector

> > and pdf of strongst planet (+/- 13 days).

> >

> > I was hoping someone would clearly write the

> > calculations so that the

> > approach and calculations becomes clear.

> >

> > Yes, here there is blessing involved so I also

> > asked all to attempt

> > this chart as it will give/add some/to experience.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > ,

> > SPK

> > <aquaris_rising@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > Ramesh you have raised good points. I was

> > thinking on

> > > the same lines although not in this much detail.

> > The

> > > question you have raised about should the antara

> > where

> > > delay gets over can give the event ? If the

> > blessing

> > > in chart can negate all delay then why not guru

> > antara

> > > itself. Then for that one can say by Desh kaal,

> > sthiti

> > > the native being male was not ready for marriage

> > in Ju

> > > antara. May be some one can clarify these things.

> > >

> > > Satish

> > > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Manu, Bala, Upendra and all,

> > > > For the verification of time of birth I was

> > > > confirming the date of marriage of the native.

> > > > The native said he married on 19 May 2003 in Sa

> > > > antara of Ra main.

> > > > I got the asc as 13 Cp 29. In this chart Ve is

> > > > very close to Su thus it is combust.

> > > > We can say it is powerless.

> > > > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by

> > Ma

> > > > in 9th house.

> > > > The 7th lord from lagna, Su and Mo is in 4:10

> > and

> > > > 1:7 so 30 points is accumulated by the native.

> > > > There is no delay by Sa but delay is caused due

> > to

> > > > Ju. This delay will be over on 13 Jun 01 when

> > Sa

> > > > antara was passing in Ra main. This delay was

> > over

> > > > in 1st sector of Sa antara and the marriage

> > happened

> > > > in third sector.

> > > > Actually Sa antara should not give marriage.

> > > > Though Sa has only 16 points in WS for 7th. It

> > is

> > > > neither the highest significator nor LoD nor

> > LoE.

> > > > Sa is NSD and Fsd to Ve.

> > > > But the question is how Sa will give the event

> > > > when delay is over in its antara.

> > > > So this conception should be clear first .

> >

> === message truncated ===

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May 9, 2007

Dear Ramesh and Sindu,

Keep such charts in mind. When you solve more and more charts such

things will get clear.

I guess to reach a level in which Krushanji studies the chart will

take us decades of dedicated and hard work.

But here use the points or keep such points in mind so next time such

charts come up, then start to go deeper and study it more keenly.

Study, whats going on in other aspects of life as well to see.

Sometimes we come to a chart where just like this one... Ju antra who

is LoD might get over smack in the middle so there are 2 things, one

it may give or may not give. There is 50-50 % chance. Now which way

it will go, will it give or not.

Then how to decide which way it will go? That becomes the point of

detailed study.

This all i gathered from chatting with Krushanji and trying to ask all

the pertinent questions as well. But then again, time is always short

when u are talking to Krushanji as there are so many questions in mind

so we can go one baby step at a time.

Pointers are given in lessons such as if Venus is spoilt then it might

delay marraige or deny it too. If 2nd house or Venus is badly

afflicted then it means something. If there is 6:8 then it means

something. If you are studying blessing then are u also studying the

same from lagna, sun and moon or just from lagna. What if there is

blessing from lagna but from sun and moon its in 6:8 ... what do u

do.... what if the planet giving the blessing itself is spoilt then

what happens... how do u find such things.... what does it mean.. will

it nullify delay or will it moderate it or will it not reduce it at

all. So many questions..............

Cheers !!!

Cheers !!!

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, ramesh mishra

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Good question Sindhu.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> --- Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote:

>

> > Dear Ash,

> > Sorry if I am reinventing this wheel again, but

> > please let me ask this one:

> >

> > 1]In the previous chart that I gave, delay got over

> > in

> > Ju antara, one sector was left, there were blessings

> > present in the chart. Those blessing were marred by

> > 6th lord effect. Jupiter was LOD in that chart and

> > yet

> > we avoided that antara because it was in delay

> > period.

> >

> > 2]In this chart, delay gets over in Sa first antra,

> > 2

> > sectors are left and one zero, there are blessings

> > marred by 6th lord. And yet, we picked the antra

> > because of blessings...

> >

> > When I had to do this chart, if I had not known the

> > marriage time, I probably would have skipped this

> > antra based on the first example.

> > Is there a specific reason why for the first example

> > we skipped it and for the second we did not....

> >

> > If Ash you could clarify, that would be just great!

> >

> > Regards

> > Sindhu

> >

> > --- Ash <ashsam73 wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > Sa being in 10th place from 11th house will not

> > > affect delay. We might have misunderstood

> > Krushnaji

> > > when he was talking about the chart. Manu has

> > > written that. Krushnaji might have said there is

> > > delay of saturn and we might have interpreted in

> > > that way which is not right. There is DELAY OF

> > > SATURN but that WAS IN REFERENCE TO 0 IN SAV.

> > > Kindly take a look at the SAV of the chart given

> > in

> > > Lesson 33.

> > >

> > > We at some point will try to revise lesson 33, but

> > > thanks to Sindhu and Anup and Yourself that this

> > > came up.

> > >

> > > Now, I have given the explanation and when this

> > > chart came, I did this chart blindly and came to

> > > right answer, then I looked at the marriage date

> > and

> > > it was in t-13 date range and that you can study

> > > from PDF. I have given how I approached this

> > chart

> > > and came to answer.

> > >

> > > Just refer to my mail and also that of Manu. I

> > > think that will clear confusion.

> > >

> > > With regards to your comment, about going out of

> > > line of KAS theory, in my approach of this chart

> > > which I did blindly, I used KAS laws only. I am

> > > again spelling it out.

> > >

> > > 1) NO delay of Saturn

> > > 2) Delay of Ju

> > > 3) Delay due to 1 zero

> > > 4) Blessing (Me rules 6th and 9th so here its

> > > weakened - so delay will not be nullified)

> > > 5) Due to blessing the delay inside antra might be

> > > reduced.

> > > 6) Delay gets over in 2nd sector or 3rd sector (I

> > > computed this orally in my mind when I was solving

> > > the chart)

> > > 7) Due to weak blessing and seeing that 9th lord

> > is

> > > in 12th and its also 6th lord so 9th and 6th house

> > > results will get enhanced so keeping that in mind

> > I

> > > proceeded.

> > > 8) So after some judgement call based on

> > experience

> > > and tark, I came to a conclusion that Saturn will

> > > give representing Venus as Sa itself can't give

> > and

> > > here due to blessing the marriage can happen.

> > > 9) Once the antra was decided and keeping in mind

> > > that delay was getting over in 2nd or early 3rd

> > > sector, I chose the pdf

> > > 10) Marriage happened in t-13 range of the most

> > > powerful planets for 7th.

> > >

> > > What is it that is out of KAS theory.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Ash, Anup,

> > > Satish, Sindhu, Manu, Bala and all,

> > > I read the lesson 33 several times to

> > understand

> > > the event in its Sa antara.

> > > I found that this chart is somewhat similar to

> > > the example chart given in the lesson.

> > > Hers Sa is LoA himself, he aspects Mo LoB and

> > Sa

> > > with 2 bindus control house C, so full delay

> > caused

> > > by Sa.

> > > There is also delay caused by Ju.

> > > The delay of Sa is moderated due to the aspect

> > of

> > > Ju on Sa.

> > > There is blessings in the chart so delay is

> > > nullified.

> > > Same situation takes place in the example

> > chart

> > > also.

> > > It is very well mentioned that since Sa apects

> > > house A so Sa can not give the event in its

> > antara.

> > > In this chart also Sa aspects house A and Sa is

> > > neither LoD nor LoE nor the highest significator.

> > > Sa is SD to Ve so Ve should give the event in

> > > place of Sa and the native is currently passing

> > > through the Ve antara.

> > > Should we manipulate the event after going out

> > of

> > > line of KAS theory ?

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

> > > Dear Satish, Anup, Ramesh, Manu and

> > all,

> > >

> > > Here Me is 6th lord as well. So it will not

> > nullify

> > > all delay. So

> > > here we can say that the native loves his father

> > > and his father is his

> > > well wisher.

> > >

> > > However Ve to Sun is close so he himself is not

> > > very interested in

> > > marriage so here when Ju antra was running he was

> > > in delay period and

> > > upendara has mentioned that he was not ready.

> > >

> > > Now delay gets over in Sa antra say 2nd sector or

> > > 3rd but due to

> > > blessing (lets call it a weaker blessing) the

> > delay

> > > inside antra will

> > > be lessened, so here due to blessing marriage

> > will

> > > take place in Sa

> > > antra.

> > >

> > > Now Sa itself can't give but its SD to Ve and

> > venus

> > > itself is strong

> > > so it can step in.

> > >

> > > So Saturn will give.

> > >

> > > Now also study the pdf.

> > >

> > > In short, we are using the same process

> > >

> > > 1) finding delay of sa - in this case none

> > > 2) finding delay of ju so here its delay

> > > 3) there is 1 zero

> > > 4) and blessing (albeit of weaker status)

> > >

> > > So delay gets over (non nullified) in sa antra

> > and

> > > due to blessing

> > > marriage can take place in sa antra, now there is

> > > delay so 3rd sector

> > > and pdf of strongst planet (+/- 13 days).

> > >

> > > I was hoping someone would clearly write the

> > > calculations so that the

> > > approach and calculations becomes clear.

> > >

> > > Yes, here there is blessing involved so I also

> > > asked all to attempt

> > > this chart as it will give/add some/to

> > experience.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > ,

> > > SPK

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

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May 9, 2007

Dear Ash,

Lovely post! It will take some time to sink in

though. If I had anything to do with biology field I

would say, this osmosis is going to take me some time!

I probably will have to read and reread this a

gazillion times I think.

But regardless, lovely post and appreciate it a lot!

Thanks a bunch,

Sindhu

--- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

> Dear Sindhu,

>

> In previous case, just study the blessing giving

> planet and its status

> too. Venus to sun is 43, Ve conjoins Sa and Sa asp

> Luminary. That is

> the planet giving blessing.

>

> Next, see overall chart as well. Power for 5th and

> 12th of Ju as well.

>

> Now say Ju antra came and more than 1 sector has

> passed, and in a

> chart where Venus who in this case is that Karak and

> 9th lord itself

> is spoilt status wise or u can say that its weakened

> the blessing, so

> here in this case also focus on 5th and 12th house

> power of Ju.

>

> Ju has -12 power in 5th house and 0 in 12th house,

> so 7th power is

> high and more than 1 sector has passsed, but the

> lady is not feeling

> like marrying as 5th and 12th are low and blessing

> giving planet

> itself might infact cause delay. I think its given

> in lesson too that

> if 2nd house and venus are badly afflicted then that

> also might cause

> delay. Here 2nd lord and 9th lord are both spoilt

> by status.

>

> However there is a blessing but this blessing might

> not nullify delay

> so here then we study Ju itself. Yes, now we say

> that if more portion

> of antra is over in delay period we skip it.

>

> Here Ju is LoD so it will try, but at the same time

> since 2nd lord and

> Venus and the planet involved in blessing itself is

> weakened then that

> might cause slight delay due to native herself as

> 5th and 12th points

> are low and it might mean back then in 1982 or 1983

> based on family

> etc her father might give her more freedom rather

> than push her into

> marraige. Now say if 5th and 12th points were high

> as well then she

> herself would be more keen to marry but its not so.

> 5th has -12

> points and basic power of Ju is also 8 only.

>

> Then on top of that she is brilliant and is more

> career minded as well

> just see her DBCE points 24:30:35:45 from lagna and

> sun.

>

> So here so many factors are playing a role on why

> there might not be a

> marriage. Yes, there might have been proposals or

> the antra might

> have tried, just find out if there was something

> like that during the

> last 2 sectors of Ju but she might not have been

> interested.

>

> Now, also study 6th and 10th house points are high

> so she might want

> to focus on her career at that point as well.

>

> Generally we say that if most of the antra is over

> and delay is over

> then, then in that case we skip it.

>

> When say more than half antra is left then here we

> have to study keenly.

>

> I mean, when Krushanji did this chart he came

> straight to Ketu antra

> and he did not know the timing of this marriage

> either. Manu and I

> gave him this chart and asked him to find out and he

> came straight to

> ketu antra.

>

> In this case 1 full sector is over and delay period

> is over. Now this

> girl does not have any emotions nor feelings for

> marriage 5th and 12th

> points when delay is over, on top of that karak

> itself is spoilt so

> that might cause delay as well or say less intersest

> in a girl who is

> brilliant and career minded and is a go getter and

> at the same time

> 6th and 10th points are up, helping or creating an

> atmosphere of job

> and authority and at the same time 5th and 12th

> emotions are low and

> the blessing is there which means her father is her

> well wisher and

> loves her no doubt and she must also love her father

> but her father is

> giving her the freedom so no push to marry or force.

>

> In upendra's case its different. Me is 6th and 9th

> lord and its in

> 12th house and in SAV both 6th and 9th house power

> is 4 bindus. Me is

> again situated in 12th house as well. So here 6th

> lord influence is

> there but in previous case 6th lord is with venus

> AND venus status is

> spoilt.

>

> So here you have to use some psychology when u are

> at such a point and

> thats when u study keenly whats going on in all 12

> houses.

>

> Hope that helps,

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> ,

> Sindhu Iyer

> <sindhu_iyer wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash,

> > Sorry if I am reinventing this wheel again, but

> > please let me ask this one:

> >

> > 1]In the previous chart that I gave, delay got

> over in

> > Ju antara, one sector was left, there were

> blessings

> > present in the chart. Those blessing were marred

> by

> > 6th lord effect. Jupiter was LOD in that chart and

> yet

> > we avoided that antara because it was in delay

> period.

> >

> > 2]In this chart, delay gets over in Sa first

> antra, 2

> > sectors are left and one zero, there are blessings

> > marred by 6th lord. And yet, we picked the antra

> > because of blessings...

> >

> > When I had to do this chart, if I had not known

> the

> > marriage time, I probably would have skipped this

> > antra based on the first example.

> > Is there a specific reason why for the first

> example

> > we skipped it and for the second we did not....

> >

> > If Ash you could clarify, that would be just

> great!

> >

> > Regards

> > Sindhu

> >

> > --- Ash <ashsam73 wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > Sa being in 10th place from 11th house will not

> > > affect delay. We might have misunderstood

> Krushnaji

> > > when he was talking about the chart. Manu has

> > > written that. Krushnaji might have said there

> is

> > > delay of saturn and we might have interpreted in

> > > that way which is not right. There is DELAY OF

> > > SATURN but that WAS IN REFERENCE TO 0 IN SAV.

> > > Kindly take a look at the SAV of the chart given

> in

> > > Lesson 33.

> > >

> > > We at some point will try to revise lesson 33,

> but

> > > thanks to Sindhu and Anup and Yourself that this

> > > came up.

> > >

> > > Now, I have given the explanation and when this

> > > chart came, I did this chart blindly and came to

> > > right answer, then I looked at the marriage date

> and

> > > it was in t-13 date range and that you can

> study

> > > from PDF. I have given how I approached this

> chart

> > > and came to answer.

> > >

> > > Just refer to my mail and also that of Manu. I

> > > think that will clear confusion.

> > >

>

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May 9, 2007

Dear Ash.

Yes it is good pointer,

Thanks and regard,

Ramesh Mishra

--- Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote:

> Dear Ash,

> Lovely post! It will take some time to sink in

> though. If I had anything to do with biology field I

> would say, this osmosis is going to take me some

> time!

>

> I probably will have to read and reread this a

> gazillion times I think.

>

> But regardless, lovely post and appreciate it a lot!

>

> Thanks a bunch,

> Sindhu

>

> --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

>

> > Dear Sindhu,

> >

> > In previous case, just study the blessing giving

> > planet and its status

> > too. Venus to sun is 43, Ve conjoins Sa and Sa

> asp

> > Luminary. That is

> > the planet giving blessing.

> >

> > Next, see overall chart as well. Power for 5th

> and

> > 12th of Ju as well.

> >

> > Now say Ju antra came and more than 1 sector has

> > passed, and in a

> > chart where Venus who in this case is that Karak

> and

> > 9th lord itself

> > is spoilt status wise or u can say that its

> weakened

> > the blessing, so

> > here in this case also focus on 5th and 12th house

> > power of Ju.

> >

> > Ju has -12 power in 5th house and 0 in 12th house,

> > so 7th power is

> > high and more than 1 sector has passsed, but the

> > lady is not feeling

> > like marrying as 5th and 12th are low and blessing

> > giving planet

> > itself might infact cause delay. I think its

> given

> > in lesson too that

> > if 2nd house and venus are badly afflicted then

> that

> > also might cause

> > delay. Here 2nd lord and 9th lord are both spoilt

> > by status.

> >

> > However there is a blessing but this blessing

> might

> > not nullify delay

> > so here then we study Ju itself. Yes, now we say

> > that if more portion

> > of antra is over in delay period we skip it.

> >

> > Here Ju is LoD so it will try, but at the same

> time

> > since 2nd lord and

> > Venus and the planet involved in blessing itself

> is

> > weakened then that

> > might cause slight delay due to native herself as

> > 5th and 12th points

> > are low and it might mean back then in 1982 or

> 1983

> > based on family

> > etc her father might give her more freedom rather

> > than push her into

> > marraige. Now say if 5th and 12th points were

> high

> > as well then she

> > herself would be more keen to marry but its not

> so.

> > 5th has -12

> > points and basic power of Ju is also 8 only.

> >

> > Then on top of that she is brilliant and is more

> > career minded as well

> > just see her DBCE points 24:30:35:45 from lagna

> and

> > sun.

> >

> > So here so many factors are playing a role on why

> > there might not be a

> > marriage. Yes, there might have been proposals or

> > the antra might

> > have tried, just find out if there was something

> > like that during the

> > last 2 sectors of Ju but she might not have been

> > interested.

> >

> > Now, also study 6th and 10th house points are high

> > so she might want

> > to focus on her career at that point as well.

> >

> > Generally we say that if most of the antra is over

> > and delay is over

> > then, then in that case we skip it.

> >

> > When say more than half antra is left then here we

> > have to study keenly.

> >

> > I mean, when Krushanji did this chart he came

> > straight to Ketu antra

> > and he did not know the timing of this marriage

> > either. Manu and I

> > gave him this chart and asked him to find out and

> he

> > came straight to

> > ketu antra.

> >

> > In this case 1 full sector is over and delay

> period

> > is over. Now this

> > girl does not have any emotions nor feelings for

> > marriage 5th and 12th

> > points when delay is over, on top of that karak

> > itself is spoilt so

> > that might cause delay as well or say less

> intersest

> > in a girl who is

> > brilliant and career minded and is a go getter and

> > at the same time

> > 6th and 10th points are up, helping or creating an

> > atmosphere of job

> > and authority and at the same time 5th and 12th

> > emotions are low and

> > the blessing is there which means her father is

> her

> > well wisher and

> > loves her no doubt and she must also love her

> father

> > but her father is

> > giving her the freedom so no push to marry or

> force.

> >

> > In upendra's case its different. Me is 6th and

> 9th

> > lord and its in

> > 12th house and in SAV both 6th and 9th house power

> > is 4 bindus. Me is

> > again situated in 12th house as well. So here 6th

> > lord influence is

> > there but in previous case 6th lord is with venus

> > AND venus status is

> > spoilt.

> >

> > So here you have to use some psychology when u are

> > at such a point and

> > thats when u study keenly whats going on in all 12

> > houses.

> >

> > Hope that helps,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > ,

> > Sindhu Iyer

> > <sindhu_iyer wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash,

> > > Sorry if I am reinventing this wheel again,

> but

> > > please let me ask this one:

> > >

> > > 1]In the previous chart that I gave, delay got

> > over in

> > > Ju antara, one sector was left, there were

> > blessings

> > > present in the chart. Those blessing were marred

> > by

> > > 6th lord effect. Jupiter was LOD in that chart

> and

> > yet

> > > we avoided that antara because it was in delay

> > period.

> > >

> > > 2]In this chart, delay gets over in Sa first

> > antra, 2

> > > sectors are left and one zero, there are

> blessings

> > > marred by 6th lord. And yet, we picked the antra

> > > because of blessings...

> > >

> > > When I had to do this chart, if I had not known

> > the

> > > marriage time, I probably would have skipped

> this

> > > antra based on the first example.

>

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May 9, 2007

Dear ash;

you know i am novoice so i just ask that i didnt understand the

dasamsa ques, are you upset with me i dont think i had ever hurt your feelings

never never so please dont answer like this please, if i have hurt unknowingly

please let me know so i can apolozice to you ok

Now if you will still answer my question i will definatly

understand that yes you are not MAD on me

again sorry for any wrong doing

thank you

rashmihpatel

ashsam73 <ashsam73

Wednesday, May 9, 2007 10:53:06 AM

Re: Dasamsa Question

Dear Rashmi,

If you are studying your chart, then everything is good.

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, rashmi patel

<rashmihpatel@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear ash-ji;

> please explain me sa being 10th from 11th house

what kind or field you are talking i guess i have similar in my

kundali ,pls check this i have aries lagna & aries/1st

colunm=sun,mercury, ketu// &

>

tauras=venus/ //gemini= mars///leo= jupiter// /libra=moon, rahu///scorpio=

saturn///

so here is this right that my

> from my 11th house my saturn is in 10th house???? is this good/bad.

pls tell me

> thank you

> rashmihpatel@ ...

>

> Ash <ashsam73@.. .>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

> Wednesday, May 9, 2007 9:43:00 AM

> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Dasamsa Question

>

> Dear Ramesh,

> Sa being in 10th place from 11th house will not affect delay. We

might have misunderstood Krushnaji when he was talking about the

chart. Manu has written that. Krushnaji might have said there is delay

of saturn and we might have interpreted in that way which is not

right. There is DELAY OF SATURN but that WAS IN REFERENCE TO 0 IN SAV.

Kindly take a look at the SAV of the chart given in Lesson 33.

>

> We at some point will try to revise lesson 33, but thanks to Sindhu

and Anup and Yourself that this came up.

>

> Now, I have given the explanation and when this chart came, I did

this chart blindly and came to right answer, then I looked at the

marriage date and it was in t-13 date range and that you can study

from PDF. I have given how I approached this chart and came to answer.

>

> Just refer to my mail and also that of Manu. I think that will clear

confusion.

>

> With regards to your comment, about going out of line of KAS theory,

in my approach of this chart which I did blindly, I used KAS laws

only. I am again spelling it out.

>

> 1) NO delay of Saturn

> 2) Delay of Ju

> 3) Delay due to 1 zero

> 4) Blessing (Me rules 6th and 9th so here its weakened - so delay

will not be nullified)

> 5) Due to blessing the delay inside antra might be reduced.

> 6) Delay gets over in 2nd sector or 3rd sector (I computed this

orally in my mind when I was solving the chart)

> 7) Due to weak blessing and seeing that 9th lord is in 12th and its

also 6th lord so 9th and 6th house results will get enhanced so

keeping that in mind I proceeded.

> 8) So after some judgement call based on experience and tark, I came

to a conclusion that Saturn will give representing Venus as Sa itself

can't give and here due to blessing the marriage can happen.

> 9) Once the antra was decided and keeping in mind that delay was

getting over in 2nd or early 3rd sector, I chose the pdf

> 10) Marriage happened in t-13 range of the most powerful planets for

7th.

>

> What is it that is out of KAS theory.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

>

> ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ .co. in> wrote: Dear Ash,

Anup, Satish, Sindhu, Manu, Bala and all,

> I read the lesson 33 several times to understand the event in its Sa

antara.

> I found that this chart is somewhat similar to the example chart

given in the lesson.

> Hers Sa is LoA himself, he aspects Mo LoB and Sa with 2 bindus

control house C, so full delay caused by Sa.

> There is also delay caused by Ju.

> The delay of Sa is moderated due to the aspect of Ju on Sa.

> There is blessings in the chart so delay is nullified.

> Same situation takes place in the example chart also.

> It is very well mentioned that since Sa apects house A so Sa can not

give the event in its antara. In this chart also Sa aspects house A

and Sa is neither LoD nor LoE nor the highest significator.

> Sa is SD to Ve so Ve should give the event in place of Sa and the

native is currently passing through the Ve antara.

> Should we manipulate the event after going out of line of KAS theory ?

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> ashsam73 <ashsam73 > wrote:

> Dear Satish, Anup, Ramesh, Manu and all,

>

> Here Me is 6th lord as well. So it will not nullify all delay. So

> here we can say that the native loves his father and his father is his

> well wisher.

>

> However Ve to Sun is close so he himself is not very interested in

> marriage so here when Ju antra was running he was in delay period and

> upendara has mentioned that he was not ready.

>

> Now delay gets over in Sa antra say 2nd sector or 3rd but due to

> blessing (lets call it a weaker blessing) the delay inside antra will

> be lessened, so here due to blessing marriage will take place in Sa

> antra.

>

> Now Sa itself can't give but its SD to Ve and venus itself is strong

> so it can step in.

>

> So Saturn will give.

>

> Now also study the pdf.

>

> In short, we are using the same process

>

> 1) finding delay of sa - in this case none

> 2) finding delay of ju so here its delay

> 3) there is 1 zero

> 4) and blessing (albeit of weaker status)

>

> So delay gets over (non nullified) in sa antra and due to blessing

> marriage can take place in sa antra, now there is delay so 3rd sector

> and pdf of strongst planet (+/- 13 days).

>

> I was hoping someone would clearly write the calculations so that the

> approach and calculations becomes clear.

>

> Yes, here there is blessing involved so I also asked all to attempt

> this chart as it will give/add some/to experience.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

>

> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, SPK

> <aquaris_rising@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Ramesh you have raised good points. I was thinking on

> > the same lines although not in this much detail. The

> > question you have raised about should the antara where

> > delay gets over can give the event ? If the blessing

> > in chart can negate all delay then why not guru antara

> > itself. Then for that one can say by Desh kaal, sthiti

> > the native being male was not ready for marriage in Ju

> > antara. May be some one can clarify these things.

> >

> > Satish

> > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ ...>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Ash, Anup, Manu, Bala, Upendra and all,

> > > For the verification of time of birth I was

> > > confirming the date of marriage of the native.

> > > The native said he married on 19 May 2003 in Sa

> > > antara of Ra main.

> > > I got the asc as 13 Cp 29. In this chart Ve is

> > > very close to Su thus it is combust.

> > > We can say it is powerless.

> > > There is one zero in SAV chart contributed by Ma

> > > in 9th house.

> > > The 7th lord from lagna, Su and Mo is in 4:10 and

> > > 1:7 so 30 points is accumulated by the native.

> > > There is no delay by Sa but delay is caused due to

> > > Ju. This delay will be over on 13 Jun 01 when Sa

> > > antara was passing in Ra main. This delay was over

> > > in 1st sector of Sa antara and the marriage happened

> > > in third sector.

> > > Actually Sa antara should not give marriage.

> > > Though Sa has only 16 points in WS for 7th. It is

> > > neither the highest significator nor LoD nor LoE.

> > > Sa is NSD and Fsd to Ve.

> > > But the question is how Sa will give the event

> > > when delay is over in its antara.

> > > So this conception should be clear first .

> > > Next antara of Me also can not give marriage. Me

> > > is in house E of 7th with 3 bindus only.

> > > The following antara of Ke can give the event

> > > because Ke is SD to Ju the LoE.

> > >

> > > The blessings in the chart is present. This

> > > blessings is involved by Sa and Me.

> > > Me is 6th lord. In navamsa Me and Sa is in 4:10

> > > combination.

> > > When you consider the nullification of delay due

> > > to blessings then the native attains the normal age

> > > of marriage (21 yrs) in 1st sector of Ju antara.

> > > There is one zero so the event could be pushed to

> > > 3rd sector.

> > > Ju is LoEalso so marriage could have been in 3rd

> > > sector of Ju antara.

> > > Ju is powerful in all the houses except 8th,

> > > whereas Sa is weak in 12th house.

> > >

> > > According to me marriage considering all the

> > > facts, should be in Ke antara.

> > > But it happened in Sa antara..

> > > Therefore do we need the correction in birth time

> > > for this chart ?

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@ .> wrote

> > > Dear Ramesh, Manu, Sindhu and Group,

> > >

> > > If this chart came blindly to you, would you be able

> > > to time marriage.

> > >

> > > Each time very difficult charts are brought up by

> > > senior members, but

> > > this chart can be solved by all.

> > >

> > > Please solve this chart as well. Please give clear

> > > mathematical

> > > solution using KAS.

> > >

> > > Solving such charts will give confidence and spell

> > > out the clarity of KAS.

> > >

> > > Mostly students (advanced) are bringing charts that

> > > are very difficult

> > > where tark and experience is needed, at the same

> > > time, those are 20%

> > > if u go by the 80-20 rule.

> > >

> > > So here is one simple chart :-)

> > >

> > > Try to solve this if this chart came blindly to you.

> > > See if Job is

> > > matching and please ask questions to Upendra as he

> > > has said he will

> > > help people learn.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com,

> > > " upendra_agni "

> > > <upendra.agni@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I just found that the Longitude and Latitude

> > > information is wrong.

> > > > Please find the correct information for my

> > > question below.

> > > >

> > > > Date of Birth: 19-Jan-1978

> > > > Time of Birth: 07:10 AM

> > > > Place of Birth: Kaikaluru (78 E 28' 00 " , 17 N 23'

> > > 00 " )

> > > >

> > > > IMP EVENTS:

> > > > Date of Marriage : 19-May-2003 02:16 AM

> > > > First Kid Born on: 14-Dec-2004 (Baby Girl)

> > > > Second Kid Born On: 01-Jun-2006 (Baby Boy)

> > > >

> > > > Got First Job on : 05-Apr-1999

> > > > Second Job on : 21-Mar-2003

> > > > Got present job on: 08-Jan-2007

> > > >

> > > > Using KAS, I would like to know in detail,

> > > according to Dasamsa and

> > > > Rasi I would like to know which is the best

> > > suitable for me. Business

> > > > or Service?

> > > >

> > > > Please let me know if you need more details.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Upendra

> > > >

> > >

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May 9, 2007

Dear Rashmi,

No, I am not mad or any such thing. Please understand the meaning of

what I have said.

I repeat again.

If you are seeing your own chart, then everything is good.

Cheers !!!