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Dear Group,

I was just reading a lesson childbirth and had a

question on childbirth.

 

For childbirth,

Should we consider rasi and navamsa charts or should

we consider rasi and saptamsa charts? For example, if

the karaka, LOD or LOE are in navamsa of 6th lord in

navamsa but not exactly in saptamsa, do we consider

the results to be spoiled/denied?

 

Look forward for the answer!

 

Thanks and Regards,

Sindhu

 

 

 

 

 

--- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

 

> Dear Anup,

> Just study who Ketu is more like I think you will

> get the answer.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> ,

> Anup <dalh_1 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash, Manu,Ramesh, Sindu and all list,

> > Nice teaching really, Its

> hard for beginers

> like me.

> > While reading the solution,

> given by

> respected Krushnaji,I feel this must be a typo like

> or sm error from

> my side ...as Manu wrote.. " In WS, all the planets

> except venus are too

> low for 12th house " , though i find Sat is also

> having 19 points in

> 12th house.

> >

> > Secondly,as written " Venus and Mars are good for

> 7th house and

> Venus is good for all 5th, 7th,and 12th houses "

> > But in 7th house, Mars has only 3 points.

> >

> > 'Sat and Mer are weak in all 5-7-12 houses "

> though Mer has 12

> points in 5th house

> >

> > As Ash wrote, now onward , we sld also look for

> the phsycology of

> the native before getting antra..a very right

> approach .

> > We learn a lot from such a unique chart really

> >

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Manu Batura <manubatura wrote:

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > Ash and I had a detailed discussion with Krushnaji

> on

> > this chart.

> >

> > Details of the native are:

> > Sex: Female

> > Date of Birth: 9 Oct 1957

> > Time of Birth: 6:24am (given), 6:27:17am

> (rectified by

> > krushnaji)

> > Place of Birth: Bangalore

> > Latitude: 12N59

> > Longitude: 77E35

> > Zone: IST 5.5 (East of GMT)

> > DST: No

> >

> > Both Ash and I were amazed (as is usually the

> > case) when Krushnaji had a brief look at the chart

> and

> > indicated Ke antra for marriage. He also hinted

> that

> > we need to rectify the birth time to 6:27:17am.

> >

> > Now, although with the rectified birth time, ve/ke

> > only starts in July 1990, he indicated that June

> > timeframe may have given the marriage due to +/-

> 13 days offset. And

> > moreoever, on the negative side due to blessings.

> >

> > Marriage is a 5th, 7th and 12th house affair and

> if we

> > see the WS, all the planets except ve are too low

> for

> > 12th house. Also, Ve/Ve antra happened too early

> in

> > life. Moreover, due to Sa sectors the native is

> quite

> > brilliant and might have more interest in studies.

> She

> > is also loved by her father (see relative

> placement of

> > 1st and 9th) and hence must have got freedom to

> study.

> > Now, ke antra is like ve and ma. Both ve and ma

> are

> > good for 7th house, while ve is good for all 5th,

> 7th

> > and 12th houses so must have given marriage.

> >

> > Now, even with the rectified time, sa is in 5th

> house

> > in navamsa hence there is full delay with no

> > moderation due to jupiter and no ju delay. Sa

> delay

> > ends on 29 Sep 1982. Here 2 sectors of jupiter

> remain

> > after delay and ju is not delay causing and it's

> antra

> > is in delay period, hence will not give the event

> > although Ju is LoD for 7th house.

> >

> > Next is sa and me antra. Both are weak for 5th,

> 7th,

> > 12th house triplet hence disqualified. Ke is SD to

> ve

> > and ma. Ve is strong for all 5th, 7th and 12th

> house

> > hence will give the event.

> >

> > Here Ash and I had a couple of questions viz:

> >

> > Q1. Ve to su distance is 43 and ve is with sa and

> sa

> > aspects moon too, so why we chose highest points?

> > Shouldn't marriage be unhappy?

> > Answer: Marriage is unhappy that is fine, but it

> is

> > not showing quarrel or dispute. Also if we add the

> > points for marriage it is 30 and the chart has

> > blessings too which does not show divorce. Hence,

> we

> > chose high points.

> >

> > Here the key in the chart is that the delays can

> also

> > be due to the power of the planets in the WS, not

> just

> > due to sa, ju or zeroes in the chart.

> >

> > Q2: Here Sa is delay causing, so why first sector

> gave

> > event?

> > Answer: Sa is delay causing, but ve is NSD to sa

> and

> > powerful for 5th, 7th and 12th. Hence, the

> marriage

> > happened as soon as the powerful antra started.

> >

> > There was another important clarification that

> > Krushnaji provided regarding Sa delay:

> >

> > For Sa delay we consider the transit of Saturn

> into

> > the previous sign as the end of delay. For example

> in

> > this case, Sa is in scorpio sign so we consider

> the

> > delay of Saturn to be till Sa completes one round

> and

> > crosses from vir to lib. However, in some cases Sa

> > after crossing becomes retro and may move back

> from

> > lib to vir. In such cases when Sa becomes retro,

> we

> > consider the case when Sa crosses from vir to lib

> the

> > second time. That means the crossing should be

> full

> > and final.

> >

> > This is a little different from what all of us

> have

> > been using for sa delay.

> >

> >

>

-------------------------

> >

> > Sindhu, can you please provide the following

> details

> > for this chart:

> > 1. Sex of native's child.

> > 2. What was the reason that her husband had her

> shut down the

> > business.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Manu

> >

> > ,

> " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > Krushnaji has explained this chart to Manu and

> Myself in great detail.

> > >

> > > Please hang in there for Manu is write a

> detailed post explaining the

> > > chart.

> > >

>

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Hi Sindhu,

 

If any planet is in sixth house or with sixth lord in Divisional

charts, it can reduce the result for the karkatva.In saptmsha chart,if the lord

of 12th house or Jup is in 6th house then it will not give result with full

strenght regarding childbirth..It may indicate some obstruction, delay, or no

child.

I wrote this as per lesson.

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote:

Dear Group,

I was just reading a lesson childbirth and had a

question on childbirth.

 

For childbirth,

Should we consider rasi and navamsa charts or should

we consider rasi and saptamsa charts? For example, if

the karaka, LOD or LOE are in navamsa of 6th lord in

navamsa but not exactly in saptamsa, do we consider

the results to be spoiled/denied?

 

Look forward for the answer!

 

Thanks and Regards,

Sindhu

 

--- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

 

> Dear Anup,

> Just study who Ketu is more like I think you will

> get the answer.

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> ,

> Anup <dalh_1 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ash, Manu,Ramesh, Sindu and all list,

> > Nice teaching really, Its

> hard for beginers

> like me.

> > While reading the solution,

> given by

> respected Krushnaji,I feel this must be a typo like

> or sm error from

> my side ...as Manu wrote.. " In WS, all the planets

> except venus are too

> low for 12th house " , though i find Sat is also

> having 19 points in

> 12th house.

> >

> > Secondly,as written " Venus and Mars are good for

> 7th house and

> Venus is good for all 5th, 7th,and 12th houses "

> > But in 7th house, Mars has only 3 points.

> >

> > 'Sat and Mer are weak in all 5-7-12 houses "

> though Mer has 12

> points in 5th house

> >

> > As Ash wrote, now onward , we sld also look for

> the phsycology of

> the native before getting antra..a very right

> approach .

> > We learn a lot from such a unique chart really

> >

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Manu Batura <manubatura wrote:

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > Ash and I had a detailed discussion with Krushnaji

> on

> > this chart.

> >

> > Details of the native are:

> > Sex: Female

> > Date of Birth: 9 Oct 1957

> > Time of Birth: 6:24am (given), 6:27:17am

> (rectified by

> > krushnaji)

> > Place of Birth: Bangalore

> > Latitude: 12N59

> > Longitude: 77E35

> > Zone: IST 5.5 (East of GMT)

> > DST: No

> >

> > Both Ash and I were amazed (as is usually the

> > case) when Krushnaji had a brief look at the chart

> and

> > indicated Ke antra for marriage. He also hinted

> that

> > we need to rectify the birth time to 6:27:17am.

> >

> > Now, although with the rectified birth time, ve/ke

> > only starts in July 1990, he indicated that June

> > timeframe may have given the marriage due to +/-

> 13 days offset. And

> > moreoever, on the negative side due to blessings.

> >

> > Marriage is a 5th, 7th and 12th house affair and

> if we

> > see the WS, all the planets except ve are too low

> for

> > 12th house. Also, Ve/Ve antra happened too early

> in

> > life. Moreover, due to Sa sectors the native is

> quite

> > brilliant and might have more interest in studies.

> She

> > is also loved by her father (see relative

> placement of

> > 1st and 9th) and hence must have got freedom to

> study.

> > Now, ke antra is like ve and ma. Both ve and ma

> are

> > good for 7th house, while ve is good for all 5th,

> 7th

> > and 12th houses so must have given marriage.

> >

> > Now, even with the rectified time, sa is in 5th

> house

> > in navamsa hence there is full delay with no

> > moderation due to jupiter and no ju delay. Sa

> delay

> > ends on 29 Sep 1982. Here 2 sectors of jupiter

> remain

> > after delay and ju is not delay causing and it's

> antra

> > is in delay period, hence will not give the event

> > although Ju is LoD for 7th house.

> >

> > Next is sa and me antra. Both are weak for 5th,

> 7th,

> > 12th house triplet hence disqualified. Ke is SD to

> ve

> > and ma. Ve is strong for all 5th, 7th and 12th

> house

> > hence will give the event.

> >

> > Here Ash and I had a couple of questions viz:

> >

> > Q1. Ve to su distance is 43 and ve is with sa and

> sa

> > aspects moon too, so why we chose highest points?

> > Shouldn't marriage be unhappy?

> > Answer: Marriage is unhappy that is fine, but it

> is

> > not showing quarrel or dispute. Also if we add the

> > points for marriage it is 30 and the chart has

> > blessings too which does not show divorce. Hence,

> we

> > chose high points.

> >

> > Here the key in the chart is that the delays can

> also

> > be due to the power of the planets in the WS, not

> just

> > due to sa, ju or zeroes in the chart.

> >

> > Q2: Here Sa is delay causing, so why first sector

> gave

> > event?

> > Answer: Sa is delay causing, but ve is NSD to sa

> and

> > powerful for 5th, 7th and 12th. Hence, the

> marriage

> > happened as soon as the powerful antra started.

> >

> > There was another important clarification that

> > Krushnaji provided regarding Sa delay:

> >

> > For Sa delay we consider the transit of Saturn

> into

> > the previous sign as the end of delay. For example

> in

> > this case, Sa is in scorpio sign so we consider

> the

> > delay of Saturn to be till Sa completes one round

> and

> > crosses from vir to lib. However, in some cases Sa

> > after crossing becomes retro and may move back

> from

> > lib to vir. In such cases when Sa becomes retro,

> we

> > consider the case when Sa crosses from vir to lib

> the

> > second time. That means the crossing should be

> full

> > and final.

> >

> > This is a little different from what all of us

> have

> > been using for sa delay.

> >

> >

>

-------------------------

> >

> > Sindhu, can you please provide the following

> details

> > for this chart:

> > 1. Sex of native's child.

> > 2. What was the reason that her husband had her

> shut down the

> > business.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Manu

> >

> > ,

> " ashsam73 "

> > <ashsam73@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > Krushnaji has explained this chart to Manu and

> Myself in great detail.

> > >

> > > Please hang in there for Manu is write a

> detailed post explaining the

> > > chart.

> > >

>

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Hi Anup,and all

 

It seems to me that using houses in amsha charts is a

mistake. navansha may be ok. I am not sure we should

say 6th house of saptamsha. Yes if the karaka is with

6th lord in saptamsha ( But this sixth lord has to be

seen in the rashi chart...not saptamsha). The amsha is

just that a amsha, not a full fledged house. It is my

opinion.

 

Satish

--- Anup <dalh_1 wrote:

 

> Hi Sindhu,

>

> If any planet is in sixth house or with

> sixth lord in Divisional charts, it can reduce the

> result for the karkatva.In saptmsha chart,if the

> lord of 12th house or Jup is in 6th house then it

> will not give result with full strenght regarding

> childbirth..It may indicate some obstruction, delay,

> or no child.

> I wrote this as per lesson.

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

>

>

>

Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote:

> Dear Group,

> I was just reading a lesson childbirth and had a

> question on childbirth.

>

> For childbirth,

> Should we consider rasi and navamsa charts or should

> we consider rasi and saptamsa charts? For example,

> if

> the karaka, LOD or LOE are in navamsa of 6th lord in

> navamsa but not exactly in saptamsa, do we consider

> the results to be spoiled/denied?

>

> Look forward for the answer!

>

> Thanks and Regards,

> Sindhu

>

> --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

>

> > Dear Anup,

> > Just study who Ketu is more like I think you will

> > get the answer.

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > ,

> > Anup <dalh_1 wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash, Manu,Ramesh, Sindu and all list,

> > > Nice teaching really, Its

> > hard for beginers

> > like me.

> > > While reading the solution,

> > given by

> > respected Krushnaji,I feel this must be a typo

> like

> > or sm error from

> > my side ...as Manu wrote.. " In WS, all the planets

> > except venus are too

> > low for 12th house " , though i find Sat is also

> > having 19 points in

> > 12th house.

> > >

> > > Secondly,as written " Venus and Mars are good for

> > 7th house and

> > Venus is good for all 5th, 7th,and 12th houses "

> > > But in 7th house, Mars has only 3 points.

> > >

> > > 'Sat and Mer are weak in all 5-7-12 houses "

> > though Mer has 12

> > points in 5th house

> > >

> > > As Ash wrote, now onward , we sld also look for

> > the phsycology of

> > the native before getting antra..a very right

> > approach .

> > > We learn a lot from such a unique chart really

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Anup

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Manu Batura <manubatura wrote:

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > Ash and I had a detailed discussion with

> Krushnaji

> > on

> > > this chart.

> > >

> > > Details of the native are:

> > > Sex: Female

> > > Date of Birth: 9 Oct 1957

> > > Time of Birth: 6:24am (given), 6:27:17am

> > (rectified by

> > > krushnaji)

> > > Place of Birth: Bangalore

> > > Latitude: 12N59

> > > Longitude: 77E35

> > > Zone: IST 5.5 (East of GMT)

> > > DST: No

> > >

> > > Both Ash and I were amazed (as is usually the

> > > case) when Krushnaji had a brief look at the

> chart

> > and

> > > indicated Ke antra for marriage. He also hinted

> > that

> > > we need to rectify the birth time to 6:27:17am.

> > >

> > > Now, although with the rectified birth time,

> ve/ke

> > > only starts in July 1990, he indicated that June

> > > timeframe may have given the marriage due to +/-

> > 13 days offset. And

> > > moreoever, on the negative side due to

> blessings.

> > >

> > > Marriage is a 5th, 7th and 12th house affair and

> > if we

> > > see the WS, all the planets except ve are too

> low

> > for

> > > 12th house. Also, Ve/Ve antra happened too early

> > in

> > > life. Moreover, due to Sa sectors the native is

> > quite

> > > brilliant and might have more interest in

> studies.

> > She

> > > is also loved by her father (see relative

> > placement of

> > > 1st and 9th) and hence must have got freedom to

> > study.

> > > Now, ke antra is like ve and ma. Both ve and ma

> > are

> > > good for 7th house, while ve is good for all

> 5th,

> > 7th

> > > and 12th houses so must have given marriage.

> > >

> > > Now, even with the rectified time, sa is in 5th

> > house

> > > in navamsa hence there is full delay with no

> > > moderation due to jupiter and no ju delay. Sa

> > delay

> > > ends on 29 Sep 1982. Here 2 sectors of jupiter

> > remain

> > > after delay and ju is not delay causing and it's

> > antra

> > > is in delay period, hence will not give the

> event

> > > although Ju is LoD for 7th house.

> > >

> > > Next is sa and me antra. Both are weak for 5th,

> > 7th,

> > > 12th house triplet hence disqualified. Ke is SD

> to

> > ve

> > > and ma. Ve is strong for all 5th, 7th and 12th

> > house

> > > hence will give the event.

> > >

> > > Here Ash and I had a couple of questions viz:

> > >

> > > Q1. Ve to su distance is 43 and ve is with sa

> and

> > sa

> > > aspects moon too, so why we chose highest

> points?

> > > Shouldn't marriage be unhappy?

> > > Answer: Marriage is unhappy that is fine, but it

> > is

> > > not showing quarrel or dispute. Also if we add

> the

> > > points for marriage it is 30 and the chart has

> > > blessings too which does not show divorce.

> Hence,

> > we

> > > chose high points.

> > >

> > > Here the key in the chart is that the delays can

> > also

> > > be due to the power of the planets in the WS,

> not

> > just

> > > due to sa, ju or zeroes in the chart.

> > >

> > > Q2: Here Sa is delay causing, so why first

> sector

> > gave

> > > event?

>

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Dear Satish,

I wrote as i been tought in the lesson in KAS.

There is nothing, i added extra word from the lesson.. " Karka: Natural &

Functional "

Plz go thru the 2nd question and answer from this lesson.

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

TSPK <aquaris_rising wrote:

Hi Anup,and all

 

It seems to me that using houses in amsha charts is a

mistake. navansha may be ok. I am not sure we should

say 6th house of saptamsha. Yes if the karaka is with

6th lord in saptamsha ( But this sixth lord has to be

seen in the rashi chart...not saptamsha). The amsha is

just that a amsha, not a full fledged house. It is my

opinion.

 

Satish

--- Anup <dalh_1 wrote:

 

> Hi Sindhu,

>

> If any planet is in sixth house or with

> sixth lord in Divisional charts, it can reduce the

> result for the karkatva.In saptmsha chart,if the

> lord of 12th house or Jup is in 6th house then it

> will not give result with full strenght regarding

> childbirth..It may indicate some obstruction, delay,

> or no child.

> I wrote this as per lesson.

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

>

>

>

Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote:

> Dear Group,

> I was just reading a lesson childbirth and had a

> question on childbirth.

>

> For childbirth,

> Should we consider rasi and navamsa charts or should

> we consider rasi and saptamsa charts? For example,

> if

> the karaka, LOD or LOE are in navamsa of 6th lord in

> navamsa but not exactly in saptamsa, do we consider

> the results to be spoiled/denied?

>

> Look forward for the answer!

>

> Thanks and Regards,

> Sindhu

>

> --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

>

> > Dear Anup,

> > Just study who Ketu is more like I think you will

> > get the answer.

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > ,

> > Anup <dalh_1 wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash, Manu,Ramesh, Sindu and all list,

> > > Nice teaching really, Its

> > hard for beginers

> > like me.

> > > While reading the solution,

> > given by

> > respected Krushnaji,I feel this must be a typo

> like

> > or sm error from

> > my side ...as Manu wrote.. " In WS, all the planets

> > except venus are too

> > low for 12th house " , though i find Sat is also

> > having 19 points in

> > 12th house.

> > >

> > > Secondly,as written " Venus and Mars are good for

> > 7th house and

> > Venus is good for all 5th, 7th,and 12th houses "

> > > But in 7th house, Mars has only 3 points.

> > >

> > > 'Sat and Mer are weak in all 5-7-12 houses "

> > though Mer has 12

> > points in 5th house

> > >

> > > As Ash wrote, now onward , we sld also look for

> > the phsycology of

> > the native before getting antra..a very right

> > approach .

> > > We learn a lot from such a unique chart really

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Anup

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Manu Batura <manubatura wrote:

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > Ash and I had a detailed discussion with

> Krushnaji

> > on

> > > this chart.

> > >

> > > Details of the native are:

> > > Sex: Female

> > > Date of Birth: 9 Oct 1957

> > > Time of Birth: 6:24am (given), 6:27:17am

> > (rectified by

> > > krushnaji)

> > > Place of Birth: Bangalore

> > > Latitude: 12N59

> > > Longitude: 77E35

> > > Zone: IST 5.5 (East of GMT)

> > > DST: No

> > >

> > > Both Ash and I were amazed (as is usually the

> > > case) when Krushnaji had a brief look at the

> chart

> > and

> > > indicated Ke antra for marriage. He also hinted

> > that

> > > we need to rectify the birth time to 6:27:17am.

> > >

> > > Now, although with the rectified birth time,

> ve/ke

> > > only starts in July 1990, he indicated that June

> > > timeframe may have given the marriage due to +/-

> > 13 days offset. And

> > > moreoever, on the negative side due to

> blessings.

> > >

> > > Marriage is a 5th, 7th and 12th house affair and

> > if we

> > > see the WS, all the planets except ve are too

> low

> > for

> > > 12th house. Also, Ve/Ve antra happened too early

> > in

> > > life. Moreover, due to Sa sectors the native is

> > quite

> > > brilliant and might have more interest in

> studies.

> > She

> > > is also loved by her father (see relative

> > placement of

> > > 1st and 9th) and hence must have got freedom to

> > study.

> > > Now, ke antra is like ve and ma. Both ve and ma

> > are

> > > good for 7th house, while ve is good for all

> 5th,

> > 7th

> > > and 12th houses so must have given marriage.

> > >

> > > Now, even with the rectified time, sa is in 5th

> > house

> > > in navamsa hence there is full delay with no

> > > moderation due to jupiter and no ju delay. Sa

> > delay

> > > ends on 29 Sep 1982. Here 2 sectors of jupiter

> > remain

> > > after delay and ju is not delay causing and it's

> > antra

> > > is in delay period, hence will not give the

> event

> > > although Ju is LoD for 7th house.

> > >

> > > Next is sa and me antra. Both are weak for 5th,

> > 7th,

> > > 12th house triplet hence disqualified. Ke is SD

> to

> > ve

> > > and ma. Ve is strong for all 5th, 7th and 12th

> > house

> > > hence will give the event.

> > >

> > > Here Ash and I had a couple of questions viz:

> > >

> > > Q1. Ve to su distance is 43 and ve is with sa

> and

> > sa

> > > aspects moon too, so why we chose highest

> points?

> > > Shouldn't marriage be unhappy?

> > > Answer: Marriage is unhappy that is fine, but it

> > is

> > > not showing quarrel or dispute. Also if we add

> the

> > > points for marriage it is 30 and the chart has

> > > blessings too which does not show divorce.

> Hence,

> > we

> > > chose high points.

> > >

> > > Here the key in the chart is that the delays can

> > also

> > > be due to the power of the planets in the WS,

> not

> > just

> > > due to sa, ju or zeroes in the chart.

> > >

> > > Q2: Here Sa is delay causing, so why first

> sector

> > gave

> > > event?

>

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Hi all,

I think in saptamsha we should consider the 6th

house of the rasi, then in that case, the karaka

becomes samdharmi to the 6th lord of the rasi.

 

Others can correct me if I am wrong.

 

Regards,

Sindhu

 

--- SPK <aquaris_rising wrote:

 

> Hi Anup,and all

>

> It seems to me that using houses in amsha charts is

> a

> mistake. navansha may be ok. I am not sure we should

> say 6th house of saptamsha. Yes if the karaka is

> with

> 6th lord in saptamsha ( But this sixth lord has to

> be

> seen in the rashi chart...not saptamsha). The amsha

> is

> just that a amsha, not a full fledged house. It is

> my

> opinion.

>

> Satish

> --- Anup <dalh_1 wrote:

>

> > Hi Sindhu,

> >

> > If any planet is in sixth house or with

> > sixth lord in Divisional charts, it can reduce the

> > result for the karkatva.In saptmsha chart,if the

> > lord of 12th house or Jup is in 6th house then it

> > will not give result with full strenght regarding

> > childbirth..It may indicate some obstruction,

> delay,

> > or no child.

> > I wrote this as per lesson.

> >

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote:

> > Dear Group,

> > I was just reading a lesson childbirth and had a

> > question on childbirth.

> >

> > For childbirth,

> > Should we consider rasi and navamsa charts or

> should

> > we consider rasi and saptamsa charts? For example,

> > if

> > the karaka, LOD or LOE are in navamsa of 6th lord

> in

> > navamsa but not exactly in saptamsa, do we

> consider

> > the results to be spoiled/denied?

> >

> > Look forward for the answer!

> >

> > Thanks and Regards,

> > Sindhu

> >

> > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Anup,

> > > Just study who Ketu is more like I think you

> will

> > > get the answer.

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > > ,

> > > Anup <dalh_1 wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash, Manu,Ramesh, Sindu and all list,

> > > > Nice teaching really, Its

> > > hard for beginers

> > > like me.

> > > > While reading the solution,

> > > given by

> > > respected Krushnaji,I feel this must be a typo

> > like

> > > or sm error from

> > > my side ...as Manu wrote.. " In WS, all the

> planets

> > > except venus are too

> > > low for 12th house " , though i find Sat is also

> > > having 19 points in

> > > 12th house.

> > > >

> > > > Secondly,as written " Venus and Mars are good

> for

> > > 7th house and

> > > Venus is good for all 5th, 7th,and 12th houses "

> > > > But in 7th house, Mars has only 3 points.

> > > >

> > > > 'Sat and Mer are weak in all 5-7-12 houses "

> > > though Mer has 12

> > > points in 5th house

> > > >

> > > > As Ash wrote, now onward , we sld also look

> for

> > > the phsycology of

> > > the native before getting antra..a very right

> > > approach .

> > > > We learn a lot from such a unique chart really

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Anup

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Manu Batura <manubatura wrote:

> > > > Dear Group,

> > > >

> > > > Ash and I had a detailed discussion with

> > Krushnaji

> > > on

> > > > this chart.

> > > >

> > > > Details of the native are:

> > > > Sex: Female

> > > > Date of Birth: 9 Oct 1957

> > > > Time of Birth: 6:24am (given), 6:27:17am

> > > (rectified by

> > > > krushnaji)

> > > > Place of Birth: Bangalore

> > > > Latitude: 12N59

> > > > Longitude: 77E35

> > > > Zone: IST 5.5 (East of GMT)

> > > > DST: No

> > > >

> > > > Both Ash and I were amazed (as is usually the

> > > > case) when Krushnaji had a brief look at the

> > chart

> > > and

> > > > indicated Ke antra for marriage. He also

> hinted

> > > that

> > > > we need to rectify the birth time to

> 6:27:17am.

> > > >

> > > > Now, although with the rectified birth time,

> > ve/ke

> > > > only starts in July 1990, he indicated that

> June

> > > > timeframe may have given the marriage due to

> +/-

> > > 13 days offset. And

> > > > moreoever, on the negative side due to

> > blessings.

> > > >

> > > > Marriage is a 5th, 7th and 12th house affair

> and

> > > if we

> > > > see the WS, all the planets except ve are too

> > low

> > > for

> > > > 12th house. Also, Ve/Ve antra happened too

> early

> > > in

> > > > life. Moreover, due to Sa sectors the native

> is

> > > quite

> > > > brilliant and might have more interest in

> > studies.

> > > She

> > > > is also loved by her father (see relative

> > > placement of

> > > > 1st and 9th) and hence must have got freedom

> to

> > > study.

> > > > Now, ke antra is like ve and ma. Both ve and

> ma

> > > are

> > > > good for 7th house, while ve is good for all

> > 5th,

> > > 7th

> > > > and 12th houses so must have given marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Now, even with the rectified time, sa is in

> 5th

> > > house

> > > > in navamsa hence there is full delay with no

> > > > moderation due to jupiter and no ju delay. Sa

> > > delay

> > > > ends on 29 Sep 1982. Here 2 sectors of jupiter

> > > remain

> > > > after delay and ju is not delay causing and

> it's

> > > antra

> > > > is in delay period, hence will not give the

> > event

> > > > although Ju is LoD for 7th house.

> > > >

> > > > Next is sa and me antra. Both are weak for

> 5th,

>

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