Guest guest Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Dear Ash, Which chart are we talking about here ? Why are you going into 11th, 3rd ? Was the question about marriage ? Satish --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Ramesh, > > Very good observation. Though on a slightly > different approach. > > Ramesh, just read Lesson 19 again carefully. What > you are doing is on > proper track. > > Here Mars is aspecting 11th house, 2nd house and 3rd > house and itself > is in unccha sthan and with 4 bindus. So it will > spoil the house it > aspects that is first thing. > > Now, take 11th house as B. So A = 6th, D = 4th and > E = 8th. > > 6th and 11th lord itself is Mars and Mars is in > House D or 8th house > and lord of 8th house is saturn is in navamsa of > Mars so 11th house is > spoilt. > > Next take 2nd house. So A = 9th, B = 2nd, D = 11th > and E = 7th. > > Mars aspects B, House A has 0 due to Saturn and LoA > is in Navamsa of > 6th lord so again SD to 6th lord, LoE is Ju and is > aspected by 6th > lord and LoD is Mars itself. > > Next take 3rd house. A = 10th, B = 3rd, D = 12th > and E = 8th. > > Mars is in House E, Mars aspect House B, Mars > aspects LoA Ju, and LoC > is Venus who is in 6th house itself. > > So the result of these houses are spoilt. > > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > ______________________________\ ____ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase./promo-generic-14795097 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Dear Satish, No, dont misunderstand, I was guiding Ramesh on Lesson 19. I have given my inputs on the chart in another mail. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Which chart are we talking about here ? Why are you > going into 11th, 3rd ? Was the question about marriage > ? > > Satish > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Very good observation. Though on a slightly > > different approach. > > > > Ramesh, just read Lesson 19 again carefully. What > > you are doing is on > > proper track. > > > > Here Mars is aspecting 11th house, 2nd house and 3rd > > house and itself > > is in unccha sthan and with 4 bindus. So it will > > spoil the house it > > aspects that is first thing. > > > > Now, take 11th house as B. So A = 6th, D = 4th and > > E = 8th. > > > > 6th and 11th lord itself is Mars and Mars is in > > House D or 8th house > > and lord of 8th house is saturn is in navamsa of > > Mars so 11th house is > > spoilt. > > > > Next take 2nd house. So A = 9th, B = 2nd, D = 11th > > and E = 7th. > > > > Mars aspects B, House A has 0 due to Saturn and LoA > > is in Navamsa of > > 6th lord so again SD to 6th lord, LoE is Ju and is > > aspected by 6th > > lord and LoD is Mars itself. > > > > Next take 3rd house. A = 10th, B = 3rd, D = 12th > > and E = 8th. > > > > Mars is in House E, Mars aspect House B, Mars > > aspects LoA Ju, and LoC > > is Venus who is in 6th house itself. > > > > So the result of these houses are spoilt. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. > http://farechase./promo-generic-14795097 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Dear Ash, Thank you so much for your kind words. They are certainly very motivating! Merucry antra was between 2001-2003 and not in delay period. I don't understand why it could not marriage then? And if it did not give marriage then, why would it give in the future? Ash, if you could kinda hint on that would be awesome again! Regards, Sindhu --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Sindhu and Ramesh, > Very good attempt. > Here both NK and FK are in black hole i.e. 6th > house. So that itself > is the indication of problems. > Now Jupiter is causing delay as well and there is 1 > zero in 9th house. > 9th house can also mean next generation. So 9th > lord itself has 0 > there. 9th house is a very important house. > Then 6th lord aspects Karak sthan and its lord is in > 6th both nk and fk. > Then coming to points, as Sindhu said that only Me, > Ve and Sa are > powerful to give marriage for 7th. Out of which Ve > is in 6th house so > its disturbed and Sa is in navamsa of 6th lord so > again thats SD to > 6th lord. Me is left. > Now Mercury antra will come in 2008-dec to 2009-oct > so good time then. > > Here I want to find out Ramesh, if this native is > heavily influenced > by his mother and he might be very attached to his > mother. Is his > mother opposed to his marriage or is the reason > behind him not > marrying. Can you please find out for my learnings. > I will > appreciate it. > > You are doing well Sindhu, keep it up. Actually > whats commendable to > all of you is that you all are trying to solve more > difficult charts > that are coming up in this list. I think for happy > marriages might be > very simple to predict. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , > Sindhu Iyer > <sindhu_iyer wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > Is this person really 47? With the date of birth > you > > have given, it appears like he is 40 years old > and > > that too will turn 40 in December. > > > > In my attempt, there is jupiter delay and one > zero, > > however judging by the points of the planets, only > > Mercury, Venus and Saturn have power. > > Out of that Saturn has become samdharmi to 6th > lord > > mars and venus has gone to the 6th house. > > > > That only leaves Mercury to give results, Mercury > has > > good points for 5th and 7th and not enough in > 12th... > > But I have seen charts where planets with less > points > > in 12th have still given results. I could be > wrong, > > maybe Ash can clarify. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Sindhu > > > > > > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Ash and all, > > > Here is one more chart of a male native who is > > > still unmarried and passing his 47 th year as > > > bachelor.His birth details are- > > > DOB- 29 Dec 1967, TOB- 17:23 and POB 28 N 39, > 77 E > > > 13 India. > > > The native is a central govt.employee and not > > > interested in marriage due to some domestic > problem. > > > You may compare this chart with that of > earlier > > > native. > > > In this chart 6th lord is Ma who aspects > > > house/lords A, B and C. > > > NK Ve is in 6th and FK Mo is also in 6th. > > > There is no delay by Sa but delay is due to > Ju. > > > My point is that whenever 6th lord influences > > > house or lords of A, B and C then marriage is > either > > > very late or sometime it denies also. > > > I had one more chart of similar status but I > think > > > I have deleted that from my file. > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > When marriage is very delayed, then if > opportunity > > > comes and if one > > > person is ready he or she might accept it. Such > > > marriage might be an > > > adjustment. Here also u must study the > psychology, > > > if the native is > > > not willing to compromise or " wants something in > a > > > very particular > > > way " then such things might work out. So u must > > > study the overall > > > make up of the native himself. > > > > > > This chart, is taken from another list by > yourself, > > > if the native is > > > saying that the chart is right, then I will say, > > > that I am not > > > confident due to the absence of past event. > > > > > > Timing of event without proper feedback might > not be > > > proper for me to > > > do. So in this mail, I am just giving you some > > > guidance on how to see > > > such delayed marriages. > > > > > > I hope it helps, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , > > > ramesh mishra > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Thanks for help.Taking birth time 11:30 A.M., > the > > > scenario of > > > chart changes completely and delay is obtained > both > > > by Sa and Ju. > > > > This combined delay was over on 07 Jan 85 > during > > > Sa-Me. > > > > Ma is now 6th lord who influences house/ lord > A, B > > > and C. > > > > Ma is influencing all the 8 planets by aspect > or > > > conjunction and > > > he himself is 9th. > > > > Ma as 6th lord is in 7th. > > > > Ma did not permit any antara planet to give > the > > > event. > > > > If I am correct then we may predict that > marriage > > > will not take > > > place in future also. > > > > Ma is very powerful in WS but being 6th lord > it is > > > helpless. > > > > What do u say, " Is marriage expected in > current > > > running Mo antara ? " > > > > My answer is NO. What is your answer ? > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Just for your study purposes, just cast the > chart > > > of 11:30 instead of > > > > 10:30 and see :-). > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > --- In > , > > > ramesh mishra > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup,Satish and all, > > > > > As I had earlier intimated the forum that > this > > > chart was picked up > > > > from the other forum. The author requested to > know > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. http://videogames./platform?platform=120121 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Dear Sindhu, If this delay is more than 36 years then that Me antra might have been in delay period. Here both Karaks are disturbed as well as ju is causing delay and at the same time Ju is in navamsa of cancer so unccha along with 1 zero in 9th. So all these things might cause more and more delay. Now, Me antra will come and at that point if the native wants to marry so the chance will be there or say the native will get a chance. Rest is upto native. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thank you so much for your kind words. They are > certainly very motivating! > > Merucry antra was between 2001-2003 and not in delay > period. I don't understand why it could not marriage > then? > > And if it did not give marriage then, why would it > give in the future? Ash, if you could kinda hint on > that would be awesome again! > > > Regards, > Sindhu > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Sindhu and Ramesh, > > Very good attempt. > > Here both NK and FK are in black hole i.e. 6th > > house. So that itself > > is the indication of problems. > > Now Jupiter is causing delay as well and there is 1 > > zero in 9th house. > > 9th house can also mean next generation. So 9th > > lord itself has 0 > > there. 9th house is a very important house. > > Then 6th lord aspects Karak sthan and its lord is in > > 6th both nk and fk. > > Then coming to points, as Sindhu said that only Me, > > Ve and Sa are > > powerful to give marriage for 7th. Out of which Ve > > is in 6th house so > > its disturbed and Sa is in navamsa of 6th lord so > > again thats SD to > > 6th lord. Me is left. > > Now Mercury antra will come in 2008-dec to 2009-oct > > so good time then. > > > > Here I want to find out Ramesh, if this native is > > heavily influenced > > by his mother and he might be very attached to his > > mother. Is his > > mother opposed to his marriage or is the reason > > behind him not > > marrying. Can you please find out for my learnings. > > I will > > appreciate it. > > > > You are doing well Sindhu, keep it up. Actually > > whats commendable to > > all of you is that you all are trying to solve more > > difficult charts > > that are coming up in this list. I think for happy > > marriages might be > > very simple to predict. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , > > Sindhu Iyer > > <sindhu_iyer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > Is this person really 47? With the date of birth > > you > > > have given, it appears like he is 40 years old > > and > > > that too will turn 40 in December. > > > > > > In my attempt, there is jupiter delay and one > > zero, > > > however judging by the points of the planets, only > > > Mercury, Venus and Saturn have power. > > > Out of that Saturn has become samdharmi to 6th > > lord > > > mars and venus has gone to the 6th house. > > > > > > That only leaves Mercury to give results, Mercury > > has > > > good points for 5th and 7th and not enough in > > 12th... > > > But I have seen charts where planets with less > > points > > > in 12th have still given results. I could be > > wrong, > > > maybe Ash can clarify. > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Sindhu > > > > > > > > > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all, > > > > Here is one more chart of a male native who is > > > > still unmarried and passing his 47 th year as > > > > bachelor.His birth details are- > > > > DOB- 29 Dec 1967, TOB- 17:23 and POB 28 N 39, > > 77 E > > > > 13 India. > > > > The native is a central govt.employee and not > > > > interested in marriage due to some domestic > > problem. > > > > You may compare this chart with that of > > earlier > > > > native. > > > > In this chart 6th lord is Ma who aspects > > > > house/lords A, B and C. > > > > NK Ve is in 6th and FK Mo is also in 6th. > > > > There is no delay by Sa but delay is due to > > Ju. > > > > My point is that whenever 6th lord influences > > > > house or lords of A, B and C then marriage is > > either > > > > very late or sometime it denies also. > > > > I had one more chart of similar status but I > > think > > > > I have deleted that from my file. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > When marriage is very delayed, then if > > opportunity > > > > comes and if one > > > > person is ready he or she might accept it. Such > > > > marriage might be an > > > > adjustment. Here also u must study the > > psychology, > > > > if the native is > > > > not willing to compromise or " wants something in > > a > > > > very particular > > > > way " then such things might work out. So u must > > > > study the overall > > > > make up of the native himself. > > > > > > > > This chart, is taken from another list by > > yourself, > > > > if the native is > > > > saying that the chart is right, then I will say, > > > > that I am not > > > > confident due to the absence of past event. > > > > > > > > Timing of event without proper feedback might > > not be > > > > proper for me to > > > > do. So in this mail, I am just giving you some > > > > guidance on how to see > > > > such delayed marriages. > > > > > > > > I hope it helps, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > , > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > Thanks for help.Taking birth time 11:30 A.M., > > the > > > > scenario of > > > > chart changes completely and delay is obtained > > both > > > > by Sa and Ju. > > > > > This combined delay was over on 07 Jan 85 > > during > > > > Sa-Me. > > > > > Ma is now 6th lord who influences house/ lord > > A, B > > > > and C. > > > > > Ma is influencing all the 8 planets by aspect > > or > > > > conjunction and > > > > he himself is 9th. > > > > > Ma as 6th lord is in 7th. > > > > > Ma did not permit any antara planet to give > > the > > > > event. > > > > > If I am correct then we may predict that > > marriage > > > > will not take > > > > place in future also. > > > > > Ma is very powerful in WS but being 6th lord > > it is > > > > helpless. > > > > > What do u say, " Is marriage expected in > > current > > > > running Mo antara ? " > > > > > My answer is NO. What is your answer ? > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > Just for your study purposes, just cast the > > chart > > > > of 11:30 instead of > > > > > 10:30 and see :-). > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup,Satish and all, > > > > > > As I had earlier intimated the forum that > > this > > > > chart was picked up > > > > > from the other forum. The author requested to > > know > > > === message truncated === > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Be a PS3 game guru. > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. > http://videogames./platform?platform=120121 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 Dear Sindhu, When native was passing through Me antara during the period from Feb 2001 to Dec 2003 the main period was that of Ve. Ve is in black hole so the karkatwa of 7th house was unable to give the result of 7th matter. Now the MD lord is Su the karak of 8th occupy 7th alongwith LoD and LoB for 7th. Therefore there should be max. chances of marriage during this antara of Me. Secondly third lord Su and 4th lord Me in 7th might have started thinking and worrying about his marriage. I will confirm from the native about his thinking and psychology when I get chance to meet him. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Sindhu, If this delay is more than 36 years then that Me antra might have been in delay period. Here both Karaks are disturbed as well as ju is causing delay and at the same time Ju is in navamsa of cancer so unccha along with 1 zero in 9th. So all these things might cause more and more delay. Now, Me antra will come and at that point if the native wants to marry so the chance will be there or say the native will get a chance. Rest is upto native. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Sindhu Iyer <sindhu_iyer wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thank you so much for your kind words. They are > certainly very motivating! > > Merucry antra was between 2001-2003 and not in delay > period. I don't understand why it could not marriage > then? > > And if it did not give marriage then, why would it > give in the future? Ash, if you could kinda hint on > that would be awesome again! > > > Regards, > Sindhu > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Sindhu and Ramesh, > > Very good attempt. > > Here both NK and FK are in black hole i.e. 6th > > house. So that itself > > is the indication of problems. > > Now Jupiter is causing delay as well and there is 1 > > zero in 9th house. > > 9th house can also mean next generation. So 9th > > lord itself has 0 > > there. 9th house is a very important house. > > Then 6th lord aspects Karak sthan and its lord is in > > 6th both nk and fk. > > Then coming to points, as Sindhu said that only Me, > > Ve and Sa are > > powerful to give marriage for 7th. Out of which Ve > > is in 6th house so > > its disturbed and Sa is in navamsa of 6th lord so > > again thats SD to > > 6th lord. Me is left. > > Now Mercury antra will come in 2008-dec to 2009-oct > > so good time then. > > > > Here I want to find out Ramesh, if this native is > > heavily influenced > > by his mother and he might be very attached to his > > mother. Is his > > mother opposed to his marriage or is the reason > > behind him not > > marrying. Can you please find out for my learnings. > > I will > > appreciate it. > > > > You are doing well Sindhu, keep it up. Actually > > whats commendable to > > all of you is that you all are trying to solve more > > difficult charts > > that are coming up in this list. I think for happy > > marriages might be > > very simple to predict. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , > > Sindhu Iyer > > <sindhu_iyer@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > Is this person really 47? With the date of birth > > you > > > have given, it appears like he is 40 years old > > and > > > that too will turn 40 in December. > > > > > > In my attempt, there is jupiter delay and one > > zero, > > > however judging by the points of the planets, only > > > Mercury, Venus and Saturn have power. > > > Out of that Saturn has become samdharmi to 6th > > lord > > > mars and venus has gone to the 6th house. > > > > > > That only leaves Mercury to give results, Mercury > > has > > > good points for 5th and 7th and not enough in > > 12th... > > > But I have seen charts where planets with less > > points > > > in 12th have still given results. I could be > > wrong, > > > maybe Ash can clarify. > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Sindhu > > > > > > > > > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Ash and all, > > > > Here is one more chart of a male native who is > > > > still unmarried and passing his 47 th year as > > > > bachelor.His birth details are- > > > > DOB- 29 Dec 1967, TOB- 17:23 and POB 28 N 39, > > 77 E > > > > 13 India. > > > > The native is a central govt.employee and not > > > > interested in marriage due to some domestic > > problem. > > > > You may compare this chart with that of > > earlier > > > > native. > > > > In this chart 6th lord is Ma who aspects > > > > house/lords A, B and C. > > > > NK Ve is in 6th and FK Mo is also in 6th. > > > > There is no delay by Sa but delay is due to > > Ju. > > > > My point is that whenever 6th lord influences > > > > house or lords of A, B and C then marriage is > > either > > > > very late or sometime it denies also. > > > > I had one more chart of similar status but I > > think > > > > I have deleted that from my file. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > When marriage is very delayed, then if > > opportunity > > > > comes and if one > > > > person is ready he or she might accept it. Such > > > > marriage might be an > > > > adjustment. Here also u must study the > > psychology, > > > > if the native is > > > > not willing to compromise or " wants something in > > a > > > > very particular > > > > way " then such things might work out. So u must > > > > study the overall > > > > make up of the native himself. > > > > > > > > This chart, is taken from another list by > > yourself, > > > > if the native is > > > > saying that the chart is right, then I will say, > > > > that I am not > > > > confident due to the absence of past event. > > > > > > > > Timing of event without proper feedback might > > not be > > > > proper for me to > > > > do. So in this mail, I am just giving you some > > > > guidance on how to see > > > > such delayed marriages. > > > > > > > > I hope it helps, > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > , > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > Thanks for help.Taking birth time 11:30 A.M., > > the > > > > scenario of > > > > chart changes completely and delay is obtained > > both > > > > by Sa and Ju. > > > > > This combined delay was over on 07 Jan 85 > > during > > > > Sa-Me. > > > > > Ma is now 6th lord who influences house/ lord > > A, B > > > > and C. > > > > > Ma is influencing all the 8 planets by aspect > > or > > > > conjunction and > > > > he himself is 9th. > > > > > Ma as 6th lord is in 7th. > > > > > Ma did not permit any antara planet to give > > the > > > > event. > > > > > If I am correct then we may predict that > > marriage > > > > will not take > > > > place in future also. > > > > > Ma is very powerful in WS but being 6th lord > > it is > > > > helpless. > > > > > What do u say, " Is marriage expected in > > current > > > > running Mo antara ? " > > > > > My answer is NO. What is your answer ? > > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > Just for your study purposes, just cast the > > chart > > > > of 11:30 instead of > > > > > 10:30 and see :-). > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > , > > > > ramesh mishra > > > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup,Satish and all, > > > > > > As I had earlier intimated the forum that > > this > > > > chart was picked up > > > > > from the other forum. The author requested to > > know > > > === message truncated === > > > > > ________ > Be a PS3 game guru. > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. > http://videogames./platform?platform=120121 > Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT from any browser, without download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 Dear Ash, You analysed houses 11th, 2nd and 3rd. I could understand the analysis of 11h and 2nd in respect of 7th matter. I could not understand the analysis of 3rd with respect to 7th, though your reasoning is quite convincing. Third house is for communication and effort. Do your analysis points out in that direction ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Satish, No, dont misunderstand, I was guiding Ramesh on Lesson 19. I have given my inputs on the chart in another mail. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Which chart are we talking about here ? Why are you > going into 11th, 3rd ? Was the question about marriage > ? > > Satish > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Very good observation. Though on a slightly > > different approach. > > > > Ramesh, just read Lesson 19 again carefully. What > > you are doing is on > > proper track. > > > > Here Mars is aspecting 11th house, 2nd house and 3rd > > house and itself > > is in unccha sthan and with 4 bindus. So it will > > spoil the house it > > aspects that is first thing. > > > > Now, take 11th house as B. So A = 6th, D = 4th and > > E = 8th. > > > > 6th and 11th lord itself is Mars and Mars is in > > House D or 8th house > > and lord of 8th house is saturn is in navamsa of > > Mars so 11th house is > > spoilt. > > > > Next take 2nd house. So A = 9th, B = 2nd, D = 11th > > and E = 7th. > > > > Mars aspects B, House A has 0 due to Saturn and LoA > > is in Navamsa of > > 6th lord so again SD to 6th lord, LoE is Ju and is > > aspected by 6th > > lord and LoD is Mars itself. > > > > Next take 3rd house. A = 10th, B = 3rd, D = 12th > > and E = 8th. > > > > Mars is in House E, Mars aspect House B, Mars > > aspects LoA Ju, and LoC > > is Venus who is in 6th house itself. > > > > So the result of these houses are spoilt. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > ________ > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. > http://farechase./promo-generic-14795097 > Looking for people who are YOUR TYPE? Find them here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 Thanks Ash for guidance. I could understand your point. I went through lesson 19 and everything is clear. Before this I posted you one mail on the same chart Just ignore that mail. But one thing lesson 19 describes the 6th lord when its point is nore than 4. What will be the situation when it is only 4 or less than 4. In case of less bindus its aspect should not be considered as benefic due to ownership of 6th house. Am I right ? Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > Very good observation. Though on a slightly different approach. > > Ramesh, just read Lesson 19 again carefully. What you are doing is on > proper track. > > Here Mars is aspecting 11th house, 2nd house and 3rd house and itself > is in unccha sthan and with 4 bindus. So it will spoil the house it > aspects that is first thing. > > Now, take 11th house as B. So A = 6th, D = 4th and E = 8th. > > 6th and 11th lord itself is Mars and Mars is in House D or 8th house > and lord of 8th house is saturn is in navamsa of Mars so 11th house is > spoilt. > > Next take 2nd house. So A = 9th, B = 2nd, D = 11th and E = 7th. > > Mars aspects B, House A has 0 due to Saturn and LoA is in Navamsa of > 6th lord so again SD to 6th lord, LoE is Ju and is aspected by 6th > lord and LoD is Mars itself. > > Next take 3rd house. A = 10th, B = 3rd, D = 12th and E = 8th. > > Mars is in House E, Mars aspect House B, Mars aspects LoA Ju, and LoC > is Venus who is in 6th house itself. > > So the result of these houses are spoilt. > > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash and all, > > Here is one more chart of a male native who is still unmarried and > passing his 47 th year as bachelor.His birth details are- > > DOB- 29 Dec 1967, TOB- 17:23 and POB 28 N 39, 77 E 13 India. > > The native is a central govt.employee and not interested in > marriage due to some domestic problem. > > You may compare this chart with that of earlier native. > > In this chart 6th lord is Ma who aspects house/lords A, B and C. > > NK Ve is in 6th and FK Mo is also in 6th. > > There is no delay by Sa but delay is due to Ju. > > My point is that whenever 6th lord influences house or lords of A, > B and C then marriage is either very late or sometime it denies also. > > I had one more chart of similar status but I think I have deleted > that from my file. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > When marriage is very delayed, then if opportunity comes and if one > > person is ready he or she might accept it. Such marriage might be an > > adjustment. Here also u must study the psychology, if the native is > > not willing to compromise or " wants something in a very particular > > way " then such things might work out. So u must study the overall > > make up of the native himself. > > > > This chart, is taken from another list by yourself, if the native is > > saying that the chart is right, then I will say, that I am not > > confident due to the absence of past event. > > > > Timing of event without proper feedback might not be proper for me to > > do. So in this mail, I am just giving you some guidance on how to see > > such delayed marriages. > > > > I hope it helps, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > Thanks for help.Taking birth time 11:30 A.M., the scenario of > > chart changes completely and delay is obtained both by Sa and Ju. > > > This combined delay was over on 07 Jan 85 during Sa-Me. > > > Ma is now 6th lord who influences house/ lord A, B and C. > > > Ma is influencing all the 8 planets by aspect or conjunction and > > he himself is 9th. > > > Ma as 6th lord is in 7th. > > > Ma did not permit any antara planet to give the event. > > > If I am correct then we may predict that marriage will not take > > place in future also. > > > Ma is very powerful in WS but being 6th lord it is helpless. > > > What do u say, " Is marriage expected in current running Mo antara ? " > > > My answer is NO. What is your answer ? > > > Thanks and regards. > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > Just for your study purposes, just cast the chart of 11:30 instead of > > > 10:30 and see :-). > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , ramesh mishra > > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup,Satish and all, > > > > As I had earlier intimated the forum that this chart was picked up > > > from the other forum. The author requested to know his marriage timing > > > being still unmarried. > > > > When I casted this chart and I found peculiarity that how the > > > native is still unmarried as against this chart. > > > > I put forth this chart before you people to find out the reason if > > > any. > > > > I do not know anything about the native so I am unable to say > > > anything about him. > > > > I assumed he might be still unmarried. > > > > The reasoning of Ash and Anup is convincing. > > > > Certain following points I would like to add. Probably these may > > > be the reason for becoming not yet married. > > > > According to one of the lesson, the 4th lord is in 3rd alongwith > > > 3rd lord indicating his mental behaviour and psychology. > > > > The 6th lord Ju aspects 7th, 9th and 11th house.Ju also aspects LoC. > > > > Ju is in the navamsa of Ma and conjoins Ve the NK of 7th. > > > > The diff. in SAV between lagna and its 7th is more than the normal. > > > > Ve and Mo comes under the sight of Sa in rasi and navamsa too. > > > > Both the luminaries are under the grip of Ra/Ke. > > > > Lagna lord Ve is afflicted by the aspect of Sa and Ra and > > > conjoining Ju and Ke. > > > > Thus his body, soul and mind all are improper. > > > > The native might not be interested in marriage earlier. > > > > I think the following antara of Ma also may not fructify.Otherwise > > > this antara might have given marriage during Sa MD. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > SPK <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > I forgot to mention that Guru in this case is not just > > > > in rashi sandhi but is in the rashi sandhi of > > > > water/fire sign i.e. gandanta. So that will make it > > > > weak as well as unauspicious. > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your mail. Yes, just for your > > > > > knowledge, in the > > > > > detailed portion of KAS also we use our own Bhav > > > > > Chalit, with hour own > > > > > KAS House system is what I call it, nadis etc, but > > > > > that again is not > > > > > linked to timing of events (it might affect only say > > > > > 1% of the charts) > > > > > so Krushanji has never spoken about it on this list. > > > > > That might > > > > > create a lot of confusion, but suffice to say that > > > > > its all there in > > > > > this whole system of KAS. > > > > > However, we in KAS still do not say that if a planet > > > > > is away from the > > > > > starting bhav degrees (or bhav madhya) as you say, > > > > > it becomes weak. > > > > > > > > > > In any case, this is for your info. > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > The strengths and weakness as per VA is a strange > > > > > > animal. How one measures strength > > > > > > > > > > > > Shadbala,This folds in 6 areas of strength, such > > > > > as > > > > > > sthaan bala, dik bala, directional strength, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then there is vimshopak bala ( I have not > > > > > understood > > > > > > this much, the application of it) > > > > > > > > > > > > Varga bala is divisional strength. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then there are avasthas etc. its a compoundium of > > > > > > confusion in my opinion as per application goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reason I said it was weak is two fold, any > > > > > graha > > > > > > in rashi sandhi, I have found to be weak. Some > > > > > systems > > > > > > who use cusps, treat planets near the cusp or the > > > > > > bhava madhya to be strong and weaken as they move > > > > > away > > > > > > from it. Secondly, Guru here is in Mool nakshatra > > > > > ( A > > > > > > malefic nakshatra). Thirdly it is with retro shani > > > > > and > > > > > > aspected by mangal. Also it is not in the visible > > > > > half > > > > > > of the zodiac. Guru's aspect in a static model > > > > > should > > > > > > be benefic, but here it is weak for the reasons I > > > > > > mentioned. Yes there are some strengths as well, > > > > > in > > > > > > its own sign. > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How is Guru weak? What is the logic behind the > > > > > > > theory of infancy as > > > > > > > per VA, can you talk a bit on it on why is a > > > > > planet > > > > > > > considered weak. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of my thoughts, infact I say that this Guru > > > > > at > > > > > > > 1 Sag 44 (check > > > > > > > your ayanamsa) is powerful for the following > > > > > reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is in its own sign in Mool trikon and its > > > > > in > > > > > > > its mool trikon in 8 > > > > > > > D charts (7 charts its in mool trikon and in > > > > > > > shastianamsa its in > > > > > > > pisces) and only in Bhamsa its in neecha sign. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why would you consider this Ju weak? As 6th > > > > > lord > > > > > > > its even more > > > > > > > powerful so it can do more damage due to its > > > > > aspect > > > > > > > but that is a > > > > > > > different issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Infact, if Ju was at 0 deg Sag, then Ju will be > > > > > in > > > > > > > its MT in 10 D > > > > > > > charts i.e Rasi,d3,d4,d7,d10,d12,d16,d27,d45 and > > > > > > > d60. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish, do u know or is there any reason why Ju > > > > > > > would be considered > > > > > > > weak in early degrees (infancy). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, here what I am saying might be slightly > > > > > > > different from the > > > > > > > generally accepted norms and hence my question > > > > > to > > > > > > > understand in depth > > > > > > > on why in General VA its said that a planet > > > > > might be > > > > > > > weak in very > > > > > > > early degrees? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > SPK > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes we need to know more about the native. As > > > > > ash > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > mentioned 3 house lords are 12 th from the > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we go through + and - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna lord in 12th debilited (-) > > > > > > > > Karaka shukra debilited (-) > > > > > > > > seventh lord in 8th (-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon with ketu (-) aspected by shani(-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7th house from chandra afflicted by rahu and > > > > > sun > > > > > > > (-,-) > > > > > > > > aspected by mangal(-) > > > > > > > > Karaka shukra aspected by retro shani (-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru aspects both 7th from lagna and chandra > > > > > (+,+) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However guru is weak 0 degrres 50 minutes aslo > > > > > > > > aspected by managal and with shani so may not > > > > > > > offer > > > > > > > > much protection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Upapada is in karka and 2nd from upapaa is > > > > > > > afflicted. > > > > > > > > Lord of upapada , chandra is in 8th from > > > > > upapada > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > with ketu and aspectd by shani (-,-,-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too many negatives. On top of this 9th lord > > > > > from > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > budh is afflicted . 9th lord from chandra is > > > > > > > debilited > > > > > > > > and in 8th from chandra (-,-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > We need to get more events for this chart. > > > > > As > > > > > > > per > > > > > > > > > this data, this > > > > > > > > > person must have love marriage or might love > > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > > very much. What > > > > > > > > > is his career? Here 3 house lords have gone > > > > > to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > 12th house from > > > > > > > > > the house they own. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is 4th lord and in 3rd > > > > > > > > > Ve is 1st lord in 12th > > > > > > > > > Me is 12th lord in 11th > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AND > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for 8th house, 12th from 8th lord Mars is in > > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > > house or u can say > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > ________Fussy? > > > Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel > > > and lay it on us. > > > http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to > > > download CHAT? Here's a solution! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 Dear Ash, Why would Mars with 4 points/ uccha spoil with his aspect. 4 is neutral aspect isn't it ? Satish --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Ramesh, > > Very good observation. Though on a slightly > different approach. > > Ramesh, just read Lesson 19 again carefully. What > you are doing is on > proper track. > > Here Mars is aspecting 11th house, 2nd house and 3rd > house and itself > is in unccha sthan and with 4 bindus. So it will > spoil the house it > aspects that is first thing. > > ______________________________\ ____Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos./carfinder/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 Dear Satish and Ramesh, Yes right. Here its Mars and its in unccha sthan so MF is 1.4 so that will spoil the house that it aspects that is 1 side of it. Secondly, here go deeper and study Mars... Mars has 39 bindus so on an average if u take 39 bindus / 12 house = 3.25 so 4 bindus is more than 3.25 that so I took it that way that it will spoil the house that it aspects. Hope its clear. Good question though. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Why would Mars with 4 points/ uccha spoil with his > aspect. 4 is neutral aspect isn't it ? > > Satish > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Very good observation. Though on a slightly > > different approach. > > > > Ramesh, just read Lesson 19 again carefully. What > > you are doing is on > > proper track. > > > > Here Mars is aspecting 11th house, 2nd house and 3rd > > house and itself > > is in unccha sthan and with 4 bindus. So it will > > spoil the house it > > aspects that is first thing. > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car Finder tool. > http://autos./carfinder/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 Dear Ash, I was away for sm reasons and miss many important discusions. Anyway,You gave a good reasoning for treating malefic aspect for Mars. So ,likewise, sld we treat Jup getting 4.66 points and Mer having 4.5 points as a neutral aspect (Jup 56/12 nd Mer 54/12, irrespect of being 6th lord) instead 4 points as average for finding the quality of result? Sldn't such aspect of Jup (not as 6th lord) also be treated as benefic having 4.66 points? Regards Anup ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Satish and Ramesh, Yes right. Here its Mars and its in unccha sthan so MF is 1.4 so that will spoil the house that it aspects that is 1 side of it. Secondly, here go deeper and study Mars... Mars has 39 bindus so on an average if u take 39 bindus / 12 house = 3.25 so 4 bindus is more than 3.25 that so I took it that way that it will spoil the house that it aspects. Hope its clear. Good question though. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Why would Mars with 4 points/ uccha spoil with his > aspect. 4 is neutral aspect isn't it ? > > Satish > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Very good observation. Though on a slightly > > different approach. > > > > Ramesh, just read Lesson 19 again carefully. What > > you are doing is on > > proper track. > > > > Here Mars is aspecting 11th house, 2nd house and 3rd > > house and itself > > is in unccha sthan and with 4 bindus. So it will > > spoil the house it > > aspects that is first thing. > > > > > > > > ________Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car Finder tool. > http://autos./carfinder/ > It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 Dear Anup, Just consider things as per lesson. In my previous mail, you can treat Mars with 4 bindus as neutral as per lesson which means it can go either way benefic or malefic , now which side it will be more like is what u have to judge. So that is the reason I choose the aspects to be more harmful. So, whats given in lessons that only you follow. So as per lesson planets with more than 4 bindus are benefic for the place its in and its aspects are malefic, planets with less than 4 bindus are malefic for the house they are in but their aspects are benefic and planets with 4 bindus are neutral. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: Dear Ash, I was away for sm reasons and miss many important discusions. Anyway,You gave a good reasoning for treating malefic aspect for Mars. So ,likewise, sld we treat Jup getting 4.66 points and Mer having 4.5 points as a neutral aspect (Jup 56/12 nd Mer 54/12, irrespect of being 6th lord) instead 4 points as average for finding the quality of result? Sldn't such aspect of Jup (not as 6th lord) also be treated as benefic having 4.66 points? Regards Anup ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Satish and Ramesh, Yes right. Here its Mars and its in unccha sthan so MF is 1.4 so that will spoil the house that it aspects that is 1 side of it. Secondly, here go deeper and study Mars... Mars has 39 bindus so on an average if u take 39 bindus / 12 house = 3.25 so 4 bindus is more than 3.25 that so I took it that way that it will spoil the house that it aspects. Hope its clear. Good question though. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Why would Mars with 4 points/ uccha spoil with his > aspect. 4 is neutral aspect isn't it ? > > Satish > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > Very good observation. Though on a slightly > > different approach. > > > > Ramesh, just read Lesson 19 again carefully. What > > you are doing is on > > proper track. > > > > Here Mars is aspecting 11th house, 2nd house and 3rd > > house and itself > > is in unccha sthan and with 4 bindus. So it will > > spoil the house it > > aspects that is first thing. > > > > > > > > ________Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car Finder tool. > http://autos./carfinder/ > It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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