Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 dear learned gurus i have been reading the posts & felt very impressed with timing of events. my details born 19 january 1981, 11:30 a.m. ,delhi wife born 4 dec. 1983, 12:57 a.m. , delhi married 30 april 2006 can anybody predict childbirth. many regards, rajan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Dear Rajan and all, Your lagna is just on border . I checked your lagna with Ar also but the date of marriage does not match. While analysing the birth chart of your wife the child birth is expected sometime during the year of 2008. Both of your chart has blesings of father or guru but there is delay in child birth. Be happy. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra " rajan.chand " <rajan.chand wrote: dear learned gurus i have been reading the posts & felt very impressed with timing of events. my details born 19 january 1981, 11:30 a.m. ,delhi wife born 4 dec. 1983, 12:57 a.m. , delhi married 30 april 2006 can anybody predict childbirth. many regards, rajan The DELETE button on Mail is unhappy. Know why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Hello, From traditional VA, the current guru antar dasha should bless you with a child. It runs through 2008. Guru is both lord of 5th from lagna as well as moon and will be transiting into dhanu rashi in november. From KAS standpoint, I see that Saturn is aspecting either lords or houses A,b and C if we take house 5 as B. May be ash can comment on saturn delays in case of child birth. How do we take delay for this event? Also one area that needs further detailed sriteup is on how we deal with delays when saturn is one of the lords of A/B/ or C but not necessarily aspects one of the houses. e.g. Karka lagna Saturn say aspects house A or lord of A for 7th house as B, aspects LoC or house C but has no other connection with house B by aspect, but he himself is loB, can we sday there is full delay? Satish --- " rajan.chand " <rajan.chand wrote: > dear learned gurus > > i have been reading the posts & felt very impressed > with timing of > events. > > my details > > born 19 january 1981, 11:30 a.m. ,delhi > > wife > > born 4 dec. 1983, 12:57 a.m. , delhi > > married > > 30 april 2006 > > can anybody predict childbirth. > > many regards, > > rajan > > ______________________________\ ____ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos./carfinder/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Dear Rajan and Satish, Both the lagna's are at the border. Ra in 11th and Ma in 5th for male chart means some problems. Marriage with the data given is in lowest points as well. In Girls chart, Ra aspects 11th house and Ma is aspecting 11th lord. Su to Ve distance is 44.35 deg and Ve is conjoined by Sa and Sa aspects both luminary in navamsa. This is with the data given. Now with birth time of 0:57 it means that Sa is in 3rd, so its aspecting Me who is in 5th house and Me rules Loc and LoA and Sa itself is LoB. So there should be full delay in marriage. Ju with Sa cant check delay. So with leo lagna then marriage should not have happened as yet. I am not too sure of the girls data with the data given. The time given is also 0:57 am so is this time rectified? What is the source of this time given? Ok, I have run out of time. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Hello, > > From traditional VA, the current guru antar dasha > should bless you with a child. It runs through 2008. > > Guru is both lord of 5th from lagna as well as moon > and will be transiting into dhanu rashi in november. > > From KAS standpoint, I see that Saturn is aspecting > either lords or houses A,b and C if we take house 5 as > B. May be ash can comment on saturn delays in case of > child birth. How do we take delay for this event? > > Also one area that needs further detailed sriteup is > on how we deal with delays when saturn is one of the > lords of A/B/ or C but not necessarily aspects one of > the houses. e.g. Karka lagna Saturn say aspects house > A or lord of A for 7th house as B, aspects LoC or > house C but has no other connection with house B by > aspect, but he himself is loB, can we sday there is > full delay? > > Satish > --- " rajan.chand " <rajan.chand wrote: > > > dear learned gurus > > > > i have been reading the posts & felt very impressed > > with timing of > > events. > > > > my details > > > > born 19 january 1981, 11:30 a.m. ,delhi > > > > wife > > > > born 4 dec. 1983, 12:57 a.m. , delhi > > > > married > > > > 30 april 2006 > > > > can anybody predict childbirth. > > > > many regards, > > > > rajan > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car Finder tool. > http://autos./carfinder/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Dear Ash, ramesh How do we calculate delay for events other than marriage ? Like child birth, etc. Secondly, if saturn becomes lord of house A, B, Or C does that automatically cover one of the houses of delay. So if saturn becomes lord of 7th as B, for karka lagna, he now has to aspect house or lord of A and C. Is this correct ? Satish --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Rajan and Satish, > > Both the lagna's are at the border. > > Ra in 11th and Ma in 5th for male chart means some > problems. Marriage > with the data given is in lowest points as well. > > In Girls chart, Ra aspects 11th house and Ma is > aspecting 11th lord. > Su to Ve distance is 44.35 deg and Ve is conjoined > by Sa and Sa > aspects both luminary in navamsa. > > This is with the data given. Now with birth time of > 0:57 it means > that Sa is in 3rd, so its aspecting Me who is in 5th > house and Me > rules Loc and LoA and Sa itself is LoB. So there > should be full delay > in marriage. Ju with Sa cant check delay. So with > leo lagna then > marriage should not have happened as yet. > > I am not too sure of the girls data with the data > given. The time > given is also 0:57 am so is this time rectified? > What is the source of > this time given? > > Ok, I have run out of time. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > From traditional VA, the current guru antar dasha > > should bless you with a child. It runs through > 2008. > > > > Guru is both lord of 5th from lagna as well as > moon > > and will be transiting into dhanu rashi in > november. > > > > From KAS standpoint, I see that Saturn is > aspecting > > either lords or houses A,b and C if we take house > 5 as > > B. May be ash can comment on saturn delays in case > of > > child birth. How do we take delay for this event? > > > > Also one area that needs further detailed sriteup > is > > on how we deal with delays when saturn is one of > the > > lords of A/B/ or C but not necessarily aspects one > of > > the houses. e.g. Karka lagna Saturn say aspects > house > > A or lord of A for 7th house as B, aspects LoC or > > house C but has no other connection with house B > by > > aspect, but he himself is loB, can we sday there > is > > full delay? > > > > Satish > > --- " rajan.chand " <rajan.chand wrote: > > > > > dear learned gurus > > > > > > i have been reading the posts & felt very > impressed > > > with timing of > > > events. > > > > > > my details > > > > > > born 19 january 1981, 11:30 a.m. ,delhi > > > > > > wife > > > > > > born 4 dec. 1983, 12:57 a.m. , delhi > > > > > > married > > > > > > 30 april 2006 > > > > > > can anybody predict childbirth. > > > > > > many regards, > > > > > > rajan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check > out Autos > new Car Finder tool. > > http://autos./carfinder/ > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Dear Satish, I think we had this conversation earlier. Sa if its lord of 1 house means we are considering that that house for delay. If Cancer is lagna and Sa is in 2nd house then its full delay, becuase Sa is in House A, So house A is affected, Saturn aspects House C and then Sa itself owns house B so all 3 houses/lords are affected and hence full delay. I hope this is clear. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ash, ramesh > > How do we calculate delay for events other than > marriage ? Like child birth, etc. > > Secondly, if saturn becomes lord of house A, B, Or C > does that automatically cover one of the houses of > delay. So if saturn becomes lord of 7th as B, for > karka lagna, he now has to aspect house or lord of A > and C. Is this correct ? > > Satish > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Rajan and Satish, > > > > Both the lagna's are at the border. > > > > Ra in 11th and Ma in 5th for male chart means some > > problems. Marriage > > with the data given is in lowest points as well. > > > > In Girls chart, Ra aspects 11th house and Ma is > > aspecting 11th lord. > > Su to Ve distance is 44.35 deg and Ve is conjoined > > by Sa and Sa > > aspects both luminary in navamsa. > > > > This is with the data given. Now with birth time of > > 0:57 it means > > that Sa is in 3rd, so its aspecting Me who is in 5th > > house and Me > > rules Loc and LoA and Sa itself is LoB. So there > > should be full delay > > in marriage. Ju with Sa cant check delay. So with > > leo lagna then > > marriage should not have happened as yet. > > > > I am not too sure of the girls data with the data > > given. The time > > given is also 0:57 am so is this time rectified? > > What is the source of > > this time given? > > > > Ok, I have run out of time. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > From traditional VA, the current guru antar dasha > > > should bless you with a child. It runs through > > 2008. > > > > > > Guru is both lord of 5th from lagna as well as > > moon > > > and will be transiting into dhanu rashi in > > november. > > > > > > From KAS standpoint, I see that Saturn is > > aspecting > > > either lords or houses A,b and C if we take house > > 5 as > > > B. May be ash can comment on saturn delays in case > > of > > > child birth. How do we take delay for this event? > > > > > > Also one area that needs further detailed sriteup > > is > > > on how we deal with delays when saturn is one of > > the > > > lords of A/B/ or C but not necessarily aspects one > > of > > > the houses. e.g. Karka lagna Saturn say aspects > > house > > > A or lord of A for 7th house as B, aspects LoC or > > > house C but has no other connection with house B > > by > > > aspect, but he himself is loB, can we sday there > > is > > > full delay? > > > > > > Satish > > > --- " rajan.chand " <rajan.chand@> wrote: > > > > > > > dear learned gurus > > > > > > > > i have been reading the posts & felt very > > impressed > > > > with timing of > > > > events. > > > > > > > > my details > > > > > > > > born 19 january 1981, 11:30 a.m. ,delhi > > > > > > > > wife > > > > > > > > born 4 dec. 1983, 12:57 a.m. , delhi > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > 30 april 2006 > > > > > > > > can anybody predict childbirth. > > > > > > > > many regards, > > > > > > > > rajan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check > > out Autos > > new Car Finder tool. > > > http://autos./carfinder/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > that gives answers, not web links. > http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Dear Rajan, I got a few more mins, so will write what I feel. I feel that u must go and have a chat with a good doctor and take it from there. 3rd sector of Ju for your wife might bring fruits but make sure u visit a good doctor and have everything checked. Good luck. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Rajan and Satish, > > Both the lagna's are at the border. > > Ra in 11th and Ma in 5th for male chart means some problems. Marriage > with the data given is in lowest points as well. > > In Girls chart, Ra aspects 11th house and Ma is aspecting 11th lord. > Su to Ve distance is 44.35 deg and Ve is conjoined by Sa and Sa > aspects both luminary in navamsa. > > This is with the data given. Now with birth time of 0:57 it means > that Sa is in 3rd, so its aspecting Me who is in 5th house and Me > rules Loc and LoA and Sa itself is LoB. So there should be full delay > in marriage. Ju with Sa cant check delay. So with leo lagna then > marriage should not have happened as yet. > > I am not too sure of the girls data with the data given. The time > given is also 0:57 am so is this time rectified? What is the source of > this time given? > > Ok, I have run out of time. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > From traditional VA, the current guru antar dasha > > should bless you with a child. It runs through 2008. > > > > Guru is both lord of 5th from lagna as well as moon > > and will be transiting into dhanu rashi in november. > > > > From KAS standpoint, I see that Saturn is aspecting > > either lords or houses A,b and C if we take house 5 as > > B. May be ash can comment on saturn delays in case of > > child birth. How do we take delay for this event? > > > > Also one area that needs further detailed sriteup is > > on how we deal with delays when saturn is one of the > > lords of A/B/ or C but not necessarily aspects one of > > the houses. e.g. Karka lagna Saturn say aspects house > > A or lord of A for 7th house as B, aspects LoC or > > house C but has no other connection with house B by > > aspect, but he himself is loB, can we sday there is > > full delay? > > > > Satish > > --- " rajan.chand " <rajan.chand@> wrote: > > > > > dear learned gurus > > > > > > i have been reading the posts & felt very impressed > > > with timing of > > > events. > > > > > > my details > > > > > > born 19 january 1981, 11:30 a.m. ,delhi > > > > > > wife > > > > > > born 4 dec. 1983, 12:57 a.m. , delhi > > > > > > married > > > > > > 30 april 2006 > > > > > > can anybody predict childbirth. > > > > > > many regards, > > > > > > rajan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos > new Car Finder tool. > > http://autos./carfinder/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Thanks Ash. How about delay for events like childbirth. How do we quatify it ? Satish --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Satish, > I think we had this conversation earlier. > > Sa if its lord of 1 house means we are considering > that that house for > delay. > > If Cancer is lagna and Sa is in 2nd house then its > full delay, becuase > Sa is in House A, So house A is affected, Saturn > aspects House C and > then Sa itself owns house B so all 3 houses/lords > are affected and > hence full delay. > > I hope this is clear. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, ramesh > > > > How do we calculate delay for events other than > > marriage ? Like child birth, etc. > > > > Secondly, if saturn becomes lord of house A, B, Or > C > > does that automatically cover one of the houses of > > delay. So if saturn becomes lord of 7th as B, for > > karka lagna, he now has to aspect house or lord of > A > > and C. Is this correct ? > > > > Satish > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Rajan and Satish, > > > > > > Both the lagna's are at the border. > > > > > > Ra in 11th and Ma in 5th for male chart means > some > > > problems. Marriage > > > with the data given is in lowest points as well. > > > > > > > In Girls chart, Ra aspects 11th house and Ma is > > > aspecting 11th lord. > > > Su to Ve distance is 44.35 deg and Ve is > conjoined > > > by Sa and Sa > > > aspects both luminary in navamsa. > > > > > > This is with the data given. Now with birth > time of > > > 0:57 it means > > > that Sa is in 3rd, so its aspecting Me who is in > 5th > > > house and Me > > > rules Loc and LoA and Sa itself is LoB. So > there > > > should be full delay > > > in marriage. Ju with Sa cant check delay. So > with > > > leo lagna then > > > marriage should not have happened as yet. > > > > > > I am not too sure of the girls data with the > data > > > given. The time > > > given is also 0:57 am so is this time rectified? > > > What is the source of > > > this time given? > > > > > > Ok, I have run out of time. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > , > SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > From traditional VA, the current guru antar > dasha > > > > should bless you with a child. It runs through > > > 2008. > > > > > > > > Guru is both lord of 5th from lagna as well as > > > moon > > > > and will be transiting into dhanu rashi in > > > november. > > > > > > > > From KAS standpoint, I see that Saturn is > > > aspecting > > > > either lords or houses A,b and C if we take > house > > > 5 as > > > > B. May be ash can comment on saturn delays in > case > > > of > > > > child birth. How do we take delay for this > event? > > > > > > > > Also one area that needs further detailed > sriteup > > > is > > > > on how we deal with delays when saturn is one > of > > > the > > > > lords of A/B/ or C but not necessarily aspects > one > > > of > > > > the houses. e.g. Karka lagna Saturn say > aspects > > > house > > > > A or lord of A for 7th house as B, aspects LoC > or > > > > house C but has no other connection with house > B > > > by > > > > aspect, but he himself is loB, can we sday > there > > > is > > > > full delay? > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- " rajan.chand " <rajan.chand@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > dear learned gurus > > > > > > > > > > i have been reading the posts & felt very > > > impressed > > > > > with timing of > > > > > events. > > > > > > > > > > my details > > > > > > > > > > born 19 january 1981, 11:30 a.m. ,delhi > > > > > > > > > > wife > > > > > > > > > > born 4 dec. 1983, 12:57 a.m. , delhi > > > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > > > 30 april 2006 > > > > > > > > > > can anybody predict childbirth. > > > > > > > > > > many regards, > > > > > > > > > > rajan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > > > Choose the right car based on your needs. > Check > > > out Autos > > > new Car Finder tool. > > > > http://autos./carfinder/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > > that gives answers, not web links. > > > http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv./collections/222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Dear Ash, I think,even after aspecting house A, B and C,a planet can give the event,if this is a " strongest " significator of houseB being the lord of A and Lord of B and even having no SD. plz correct me if i am wrong smwhere. Regards Anup ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Satish, I think we had this conversation earlier. Sa if its lord of 1 house means we are considering that that house for delay. If Cancer is lagna and Sa is in 2nd house then its full delay, becuase Sa is in House A, So house A is affected, Saturn aspects House C and then Sa itself owns house B so all 3 houses/lords are affected and hence full delay. I hope this is clear. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ash, ramesh > > How do we calculate delay for events other than > marriage ? Like child birth, etc. > > Secondly, if saturn becomes lord of house A, B, Or C > does that automatically cover one of the houses of > delay. So if saturn becomes lord of 7th as B, for > karka lagna, he now has to aspect house or lord of A > and C. Is this correct ? > > Satish > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Rajan and Satish, > > > > Both the lagna's are at the border. > > > > Ra in 11th and Ma in 5th for male chart means some > > problems. Marriage > > with the data given is in lowest points as well. > > > > In Girls chart, Ra aspects 11th house and Ma is > > aspecting 11th lord. > > Su to Ve distance is 44.35 deg and Ve is conjoined > > by Sa and Sa > > aspects both luminary in navamsa. > > > > This is with the data given. Now with birth time of > > 0:57 it means > > that Sa is in 3rd, so its aspecting Me who is in 5th > > house and Me > > rules Loc and LoA and Sa itself is LoB. So there > > should be full delay > > in marriage. Ju with Sa cant check delay. So with > > leo lagna then > > marriage should not have happened as yet. > > > > I am not too sure of the girls data with the data > > given. The time > > given is also 0:57 am so is this time rectified? > > What is the source of > > this time given? > > > > Ok, I have run out of time. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > From traditional VA, the current guru antar dasha > > > should bless you with a child. It runs through > > 2008. > > > > > > Guru is both lord of 5th from lagna as well as > > moon > > > and will be transiting into dhanu rashi in > > november. > > > > > > From KAS standpoint, I see that Saturn is > > aspecting > > > either lords or houses A,b and C if we take house > > 5 as > > > B. May be ash can comment on saturn delays in case > > of > > > child birth. How do we take delay for this event? > > > > > > Also one area that needs further detailed sriteup > > is > > > on how we deal with delays when saturn is one of > > the > > > lords of A/B/ or C but not necessarily aspects one > > of > > > the houses. e.g. Karka lagna Saturn say aspects > > house > > > A or lord of A for 7th house as B, aspects LoC or > > > house C but has no other connection with house B > > by > > > aspect, but he himself is loB, can we sday there > > is > > > full delay? > > > > > > Satish > > > --- " rajan.chand " <rajan.chand@> wrote: > > > > > > > dear learned gurus > > > > > > > > i have been reading the posts & felt very > > impressed > > > > with timing of > > > > events. > > > > > > > > my details > > > > > > > > born 19 january 1981, 11:30 a.m. ,delhi > > > > > > > > wife > > > > > > > > born 4 dec. 1983, 12:57 a.m. , delhi > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > 30 april 2006 > > > > > > > > can anybody predict childbirth. > > > > > > > > many regards, > > > > > > > > rajan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check > > out Autos > > new Car Finder tool. > > > http://autos./carfinder/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > that gives answers, not web links. > http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > Get the toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Dear Satish, Yes, that is given in the lesson of child birth. In India, Generally we would see that after marriage. Technique for timing of event will be similar to what we have studied so far. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Thanks Ash. > > How about delay for events like childbirth. How do we > quatify it ? > > Satish > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Satish, > > I think we had this conversation earlier. > > > > Sa if its lord of 1 house means we are considering > > that that house for > > delay. > > > > If Cancer is lagna and Sa is in 2nd house then its > > full delay, becuase > > Sa is in House A, So house A is affected, Saturn > > aspects House C and > > then Sa itself owns house B so all 3 houses/lords > > are affected and > > hence full delay. > > > > I hope this is clear. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, ramesh > > > > > > How do we calculate delay for events other than > > > marriage ? Like child birth, etc. > > > > > > Secondly, if saturn becomes lord of house A, B, Or > > C > > > does that automatically cover one of the houses of > > > delay. So if saturn becomes lord of 7th as B, for > > > karka lagna, he now has to aspect house or lord of > > A > > > and C. Is this correct ? > > > > > > Satish > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Rajan and Satish, > > > > > > > > Both the lagna's are at the border. > > > > > > > > Ra in 11th and Ma in 5th for male chart means > > some > > > > problems. Marriage > > > > with the data given is in lowest points as well. > > > > > > > > > > In Girls chart, Ra aspects 11th house and Ma is > > > > aspecting 11th lord. > > > > Su to Ve distance is 44.35 deg and Ve is > > conjoined > > > > by Sa and Sa > > > > aspects both luminary in navamsa. > > > > > > > > This is with the data given. Now with birth > > time of > > > > 0:57 it means > > > > that Sa is in 3rd, so its aspecting Me who is in > > 5th > > > > house and Me > > > > rules Loc and LoA and Sa itself is LoB. So > > there > > > > should be full delay > > > > in marriage. Ju with Sa cant check delay. So > > with > > > > leo lagna then > > > > marriage should not have happened as yet. > > > > > > > > I am not too sure of the girls data with the > > data > > > > given. The time > > > > given is also 0:57 am so is this time rectified? > > > > What is the source of > > > > this time given? > > > > > > > > Ok, I have run out of time. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > SPK > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > From traditional VA, the current guru antar > > dasha > > > > > should bless you with a child. It runs through > > > > 2008. > > > > > > > > > > Guru is both lord of 5th from lagna as well as > > > > moon > > > > > and will be transiting into dhanu rashi in > > > > november. > > > > > > > > > > From KAS standpoint, I see that Saturn is > > > > aspecting > > > > > either lords or houses A,b and C if we take > > house > > > > 5 as > > > > > B. May be ash can comment on saturn delays in > > case > > > > of > > > > > child birth. How do we take delay for this > > event? > > > > > > > > > > Also one area that needs further detailed > > sriteup > > > > is > > > > > on how we deal with delays when saturn is one > > of > > > > the > > > > > lords of A/B/ or C but not necessarily aspects > > one > > > > of > > > > > the houses. e.g. Karka lagna Saturn say > > aspects > > > > house > > > > > A or lord of A for 7th house as B, aspects LoC > > or > > > > > house C but has no other connection with house > > B > > > > by > > > > > aspect, but he himself is loB, can we sday > > there > > > > is > > > > > full delay? > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > --- " rajan.chand " <rajan.chand@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > dear learned gurus > > > > > > > > > > > > i have been reading the posts & felt very > > > > impressed > > > > > > with timing of > > > > > > events. > > > > > > > > > > > > my details > > > > > > > > > > > > born 19 january 1981, 11:30 a.m. ,delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > wife > > > > > > > > > > > > born 4 dec. 1983, 12:57 a.m. , delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > > > > > 30 april 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > can anybody predict childbirth. > > > > > > > > > > > > many regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > rajan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > > > > > Choose the right car based on your needs. > > Check > > > > out Autos > > > > new Car Finder tool. > > > > > http://autos./carfinder/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > > > that gives answers, not web links. > > > > > > http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Sick sense of humor? 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Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Dear Anup, Generally, planets aspecting House A, B or C will not give result even if its strongest. Say Sa is in 5th house with less than 4 bindus then it will add power to ABC house so in WS u will find that the power of Sa goes up, unless there is some planet taking power off Sa. In that case, Sa might be NSD to Venus and if Venus is powerful but its antra is either gone or far off after delay is over then Sa might step in for Venus despite it aspecting House ABC. I think there was one chart solved by Krushanji where some planet did not give the result. That being said, there was a post of Krushnaji where he had said that if the Karak planet is very very powerful and even if that planet aspects House ABC then in that case it might give the result. Here the power must be more than 20 in the WS. I think that was the post... this i am saying off the top of my head... if someone has that post or message list can post it. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > I think,even after aspecting house A, B and C,a planet can give the event,if this is a " strongest " significator of houseB being the lord of A and Lord of B and even having no SD. > > plz correct me if i am wrong smwhere. > > Regards > Anup > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Satish, > I think we had this conversation earlier. > > Sa if its lord of 1 house means we are considering that that house for > delay. > > If Cancer is lagna and Sa is in 2nd house then its full delay, becuase > Sa is in House A, So house A is affected, Saturn aspects House C and > then Sa itself owns house B so all 3 houses/lords are affected and > hence full delay. > > I hope this is clear. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, ramesh > > > > How do we calculate delay for events other than > > marriage ? Like child birth, etc. > > > > Secondly, if saturn becomes lord of house A, B, Or C > > does that automatically cover one of the houses of > > delay. So if saturn becomes lord of 7th as B, for > > karka lagna, he now has to aspect house or lord of A > > and C. Is this correct ? > > > > Satish > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Rajan and Satish, > > > > > > Both the lagna's are at the border. > > > > > > Ra in 11th and Ma in 5th for male chart means some > > > problems. Marriage > > > with the data given is in lowest points as well. > > > > > > In Girls chart, Ra aspects 11th house and Ma is > > > aspecting 11th lord. > > > Su to Ve distance is 44.35 deg and Ve is conjoined > > > by Sa and Sa > > > aspects both luminary in navamsa. > > > > > > This is with the data given. Now with birth time of > > > 0:57 it means > > > that Sa is in 3rd, so its aspecting Me who is in 5th > > > house and Me > > > rules Loc and LoA and Sa itself is LoB. So there > > > should be full delay > > > in marriage. Ju with Sa cant check delay. So with > > > leo lagna then > > > marriage should not have happened as yet. > > > > > > I am not too sure of the girls data with the data > > > given. The time > > > given is also 0:57 am so is this time rectified? > > > What is the source of > > > this time given? > > > > > > Ok, I have run out of time. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > From traditional VA, the current guru antar dasha > > > > should bless you with a child. It runs through > > > 2008. > > > > > > > > Guru is both lord of 5th from lagna as well as > > > moon > > > > and will be transiting into dhanu rashi in > > > november. > > > > > > > > From KAS standpoint, I see that Saturn is > > > aspecting > > > > either lords or houses A,b and C if we take house > > > 5 as > > > > B. May be ash can comment on saturn delays in case > > > of > > > > child birth. How do we take delay for this event? > > > > > > > > Also one area that needs further detailed sriteup > > > is > > > > on how we deal with delays when saturn is one of > > > the > > > > lords of A/B/ or C but not necessarily aspects one > > > of > > > > the houses. e.g. Karka lagna Saturn say aspects > > > house > > > > A or lord of A for 7th house as B, aspects LoC or > > > > house C but has no other connection with house B > > > by > > > > aspect, but he himself is loB, can we sday there > > > is > > > > full delay? > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- " rajan.chand " <rajan.chand@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > dear learned gurus > > > > > > > > > > i have been reading the posts & felt very > > > impressed > > > > > with timing of > > > > > events. > > > > > > > > > > my details > > > > > > > > > > born 19 january 1981, 11:30 a.m. ,delhi > > > > > > > > > > wife > > > > > > > > > > born 4 dec. 1983, 12:57 a.m. , delhi > > > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > > > 30 april 2006 > > > > > > > > > > can anybody predict childbirth. > > > > > > > > > > many regards, > > > > > > > > > > rajan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > Choose the right car based on your needs. 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Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Dear Ash, As this was a post from respected Krushna ji, so i treat it as a lesson. Here is a post , i am sending but i forget the meassage number.It was refered to you and Margarita. " Dear Ash and Margarita, Yes you are correct, when a strong significator, being the lord of A or B, can give the result. even if it is not samdharmi to any other planet. I am getting more and more busy due to work load. The stars are on their peak, so this time must be utilised. The work load is difficult to control by my sons. I must help them. I have to go out, Just I reached, The internet was on, so entered here. Last question of death is un explained from my side. I will try to answer it soon. Denis have developed fully automatic work sheet. I have not gone tru it. I hope it will be more use ful. " krushna Every question from you was smthing we wish to ask from Krushnaji and accordingly find the reply and treat this as a lesson. Thanxs Ash.. Regards Anup ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Anup, Generally, planets aspecting House A, B or C will not give result even if its strongest. Say Sa is in 5th house with less than 4 bindus then it will add power to ABC house so in WS u will find that the power of Sa goes up, unless there is some planet taking power off Sa. In that case, Sa might be NSD to Venus and if Venus is powerful but its antra is either gone or far off after delay is over then Sa might step in for Venus despite it aspecting House ABC. I think there was one chart solved by Krushanji where some planet did not give the result. That being said, there was a post of Krushnaji where he had said that if the Karak planet is very very powerful and even if that planet aspects House ABC then in that case it might give the result. Here the power must be more than 20 in the WS. I think that was the post... this i am saying off the top of my head... if someone has that post or message list can post it. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > I think,even after aspecting house A, B and C,a planet can give the event,if this is a " strongest " significator of houseB being the lord of A and Lord of B and even having no SD. > > plz correct me if i am wrong smwhere. > > Regards > Anup > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Satish, > I think we had this conversation earlier. > > Sa if its lord of 1 house means we are considering that that house for > delay. > > If Cancer is lagna and Sa is in 2nd house then its full delay, becuase > Sa is in House A, So house A is affected, Saturn aspects House C and > then Sa itself owns house B so all 3 houses/lords are affected and > hence full delay. > > I hope this is clear. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, ramesh > > > > How do we calculate delay for events other than > > marriage ? Like child birth, etc. > > > > Secondly, if saturn becomes lord of house A, B, Or C > > does that automatically cover one of the houses of > > delay. So if saturn becomes lord of 7th as B, for > > karka lagna, he now has to aspect house or lord of A > > and C. Is this correct ? > > > > Satish > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Rajan and Satish, > > > > > > Both the lagna's are at the border. > > > > > > Ra in 11th and Ma in 5th for male chart means some > > > problems. Marriage > > > with the data given is in lowest points as well. > > > > > > In Girls chart, Ra aspects 11th house and Ma is > > > aspecting 11th lord. > > > Su to Ve distance is 44.35 deg and Ve is conjoined > > > by Sa and Sa > > > aspects both luminary in navamsa. > > > > > > This is with the data given. Now with birth time of > > > 0:57 it means > > > that Sa is in 3rd, so its aspecting Me who is in 5th > > > house and Me > > > rules Loc and LoA and Sa itself is LoB. So there > > > should be full delay > > > in marriage. Ju with Sa cant check delay. So with > > > leo lagna then > > > marriage should not have happened as yet. > > > > > > I am not too sure of the girls data with the data > > > given. The time > > > given is also 0:57 am so is this time rectified? > > > What is the source of > > > this time given? > > > > > > Ok, I have run out of time. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > From traditional VA, the current guru antar dasha > > > > should bless you with a child. It runs through > > > 2008. > > > > > > > > Guru is both lord of 5th from lagna as well as > > > moon > > > > and will be transiting into dhanu rashi in > > > november. > > > > > > > > From KAS standpoint, I see that Saturn is > > > aspecting > > > > either lords or houses A,b and C if we take house > > > 5 as > > > > B. May be ash can comment on saturn delays in case > > > of > > > > child birth. How do we take delay for this event? > > > > > > > > Also one area that needs further detailed sriteup > > > is > > > > on how we deal with delays when saturn is one of > > > the > > > > lords of A/B/ or C but not necessarily aspects one > > > of > > > > the houses. e.g. Karka lagna Saturn say aspects > > > house > > > > A or lord of A for 7th house as B, aspects LoC or > > > > house C but has no other connection with house B > > > by > > > > aspect, but he himself is loB, can we sday there > > > is > > > > full delay? > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- " rajan.chand " <rajan.chand@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > dear learned gurus > > > > > > > > > > i have been reading the posts & felt very > > > impressed > > > > > with timing of > > > > > events. > > > > > > > > > > my details > > > > > > > > > > born 19 january 1981, 11:30 a.m. ,delhi > > > > > > > > > > wife > > > > > > > > > > born 4 dec. 1983, 12:57 a.m. , delhi > > > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > > > 30 april 2006 > > > > > > > > > > can anybody predict childbirth. > > > > > > > > > > many regards, > > > > > > > > > > rajan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > Choose the right car based on your needs. 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Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Dear Ash, Actually this was the post i think.. " Dear Ash, and List members, The strong planets can give the result, even if they have sight on A,B,C houses. This is applicable only for strong planets getting substancial points say more then 20 in work sheet. Again those should not be afflicted by 6th lord. House A indicates the Karkatva for house B. If any planet being the lord of A, and is powerful having good points, for house B. At the same time it is lord of D for the next event resulted due to house B. For Example say 2nd house is house A for marriage then it is house D for children. Which is not " authorised " until result of 7th house happens. Similar thing is with house B. Like it sld be LOD for 5th and strong significator for 7th For house C it is second step. It is not connected with immidiate effect. I have explained in short, due to lack of time. I hope you have understood. Or if you think on the matter, it will be clear. krushna Regards Anup ... ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Anup, Generally, planets aspecting House A, B or C will not give result even if its strongest. Say Sa is in 5th house with less than 4 bindus then it will add power to ABC house so in WS u will find that the power of Sa goes up, unless there is some planet taking power off Sa. In that case, Sa might be NSD to Venus and if Venus is powerful but its antra is either gone or far off after delay is over then Sa might step in for Venus despite it aspecting House ABC. I think there was one chart solved by Krushanji where some planet did not give the result. That being said, there was a post of Krushnaji where he had said that if the Karak planet is very very powerful and even if that planet aspects House ABC then in that case it might give the result. Here the power must be more than 20 in the WS. I think that was the post... this i am saying off the top of my head... if someone has that post or message list can post it. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > I think,even after aspecting house A, B and C,a planet can give the event,if this is a " strongest " significator of houseB being the lord of A and Lord of B and even having no SD. > > plz correct me if i am wrong smwhere. > > Regards > Anup > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Satish, > I think we had this conversation earlier. > > Sa if its lord of 1 house means we are considering that that house for > delay. > > If Cancer is lagna and Sa is in 2nd house then its full delay, becuase > Sa is in House A, So house A is affected, Saturn aspects House C and > then Sa itself owns house B so all 3 houses/lords are affected and > hence full delay. > > I hope this is clear. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, ramesh > > > > How do we calculate delay for events other than > > marriage ? Like child birth, etc. > > > > Secondly, if saturn becomes lord of house A, B, Or C > > does that automatically cover one of the houses of > > delay. So if saturn becomes lord of 7th as B, for > > karka lagna, he now has to aspect house or lord of A > > and C. Is this correct ? > > > > Satish > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Rajan and Satish, > > > > > > Both the lagna's are at the border. > > > > > > Ra in 11th and Ma in 5th for male chart means some > > > problems. Marriage > > > with the data given is in lowest points as well. > > > > > > In Girls chart, Ra aspects 11th house and Ma is > > > aspecting 11th lord. > > > Su to Ve distance is 44.35 deg and Ve is conjoined > > > by Sa and Sa > > > aspects both luminary in navamsa. > > > > > > This is with the data given. Now with birth time of > > > 0:57 it means > > > that Sa is in 3rd, so its aspecting Me who is in 5th > > > house and Me > > > rules Loc and LoA and Sa itself is LoB. So there > > > should be full delay > > > in marriage. Ju with Sa cant check delay. So with > > > leo lagna then > > > marriage should not have happened as yet. > > > > > > I am not too sure of the girls data with the data > > > given. The time > > > given is also 0:57 am so is this time rectified? > > > What is the source of > > > this time given? > > > > > > Ok, I have run out of time. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > From traditional VA, the current guru antar dasha > > > > should bless you with a child. It runs through > > > 2008. > > > > > > > > Guru is both lord of 5th from lagna as well as > > > moon > > > > and will be transiting into dhanu rashi in > > > november. > > > > > > > > From KAS standpoint, I see that Saturn is > > > aspecting > > > > either lords or houses A,b and C if we take house > > > 5 as > > > > B. May be ash can comment on saturn delays in case > > > of > > > > child birth. How do we take delay for this event? > > > > > > > > Also one area that needs further detailed sriteup > > > is > > > > on how we deal with delays when saturn is one of > > > the > > > > lords of A/B/ or C but not necessarily aspects one > > > of > > > > the houses. e.g. Karka lagna Saturn say aspects > > > house > > > > A or lord of A for 7th house as B, aspects LoC or > > > > house C but has no other connection with house B > > > by > > > > aspect, but he himself is loB, can we sday there > > > is > > > > full delay? > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- " rajan.chand " <rajan.chand@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > dear learned gurus > > > > > > > > > > i have been reading the posts & felt very > > > impressed > > > > > with timing of > > > > > events. > > > > > > > > > > my details > > > > > > > > > > born 19 january 1981, 11:30 a.m. ,delhi > > > > > > > > > > wife > > > > > > > > > > born 4 dec. 1983, 12:57 a.m. , delhi > > > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > > > 30 april 2006 > > > > > > > > > > can anybody predict childbirth. > > > > > > > > > > many regards, > > > > > > > > > > rajan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check > > > out Autos > > > new Car Finder tool. > > > > http://autos./carfinder/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > > that gives answers, not web links. > > http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > > > Get the toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Thanks Ash, Will read the lesson. The question is when there is satrun delay for marriage ( 7th house as B) and also delay for child birth ( 5th house as B), the marriage takes place after say 27.5 years, now how do we calculate the delay for child birth. Sureluy we don't wait for next saturn cycle. So do we say child birth delay is already over when marriage happened? Satish --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Satish, > Yes, that is given in the lesson of child birth. In > India, Generally > we would see that after marriage. Technique for > timing of event will > be similar to what we have studied so far. > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising wrote: > > > > Thanks Ash. > > > > How about delay for events like childbirth. How do > we > > quatify it ? > > > > Satish > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > I think we had this conversation earlier. > > > > > > Sa if its lord of 1 house means we are > considering > > > that that house for > > > delay. > > > > > > If Cancer is lagna and Sa is in 2nd house then > its > > > full delay, becuase > > > Sa is in House A, So house A is affected, Saturn > > > aspects House C and > > > then Sa itself owns house B so all 3 > houses/lords > > > are affected and > > > hence full delay. > > > > > > I hope this is clear. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , > SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, ramesh > > > > > > > > How do we calculate delay for events other > than > > > > marriage ? Like child birth, etc. > > > > > > > > Secondly, if saturn becomes lord of house A, > B, Or > > > C > > > > does that automatically cover one of the > houses of > > > > delay. So if saturn becomes lord of 7th as B, > for > > > > karka lagna, he now has to aspect house or > lord of > > > A > > > > and C. Is this correct ? > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajan and Satish, > > > > > > > > > > Both the lagna's are at the border. > > > > > > > > > > Ra in 11th and Ma in 5th for male chart > means > > > some > > > > > problems. Marriage > > > > > with the data given is in lowest points as > well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Girls chart, Ra aspects 11th house and Ma > is > > > > > aspecting 11th lord. > > > > > Su to Ve distance is 44.35 deg and Ve is > > > conjoined > > > > > by Sa and Sa > > > > > aspects both luminary in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > This is with the data given. Now with birth > > > time of > > > > > 0:57 it means > > > > > that Sa is in 3rd, so its aspecting Me who > is in > > > 5th > > > > > house and Me > > > > > rules Loc and LoA and Sa itself is LoB. So > > > there > > > > > should be full delay > > > > > in marriage. Ju with Sa cant check delay. > So > > > with > > > > > leo lagna then > > > > > marriage should not have happened as yet. > > > > > > > > > > I am not too sure of the girls data with the > > > data > > > > > given. The time > > > > > given is also 0:57 am so is this time > rectified? > > > > > What is the source of > > > > > this time given? > > > > > > > > > > Ok, I have run out of time. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > , > > > SPK > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > From traditional VA, the current guru > antar > > > dasha > > > > > > should bless you with a child. It runs > through > > > > > 2008. > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is both lord of 5th from lagna as > well as > > > > > moon > > > > > > and will be transiting into dhanu rashi in > > > > > november. > > > > > > > > > > > > From KAS standpoint, I see that Saturn is > > > > > aspecting > > > > > > either lords or houses A,b and C if we > take > > > house > > > > > 5 as > > > > > > B. May be ash can comment on saturn delays > in > > > case > > > > > of > > > > > > child birth. How do we take delay for this > > > event? > > > > > > > > > > > > Also one area that needs further detailed > > > sriteup > > > > > is > > > > > > on how we deal with delays when saturn is > one > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > lords of A/B/ or C but not necessarily > aspects > > > one > > > > > of > > > > > > the houses. e.g. Karka lagna Saturn say > > > aspects > > > > > house > > > > > > A or lord of A for 7th house as B, aspects > LoC > > > or > > > > > > house C but has no other connection with > house > > > B > > > > > by > > > > > > aspect, but he himself is loB, can we sday > > > there > > > > > is > > > > > > full delay? > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > --- " rajan.chand " <rajan.chand@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear learned gurus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have been reading the posts & felt > very > > > > > impressed > > > > > > > with timing of > > > > > > > events. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > born 19 january 1981, 11:30 a.m. ,delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wife > > > > > > > > > > > > > > born 4 dec. 1983, 12:57 a.m. , delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Fussy? 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Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Dear Anup, Perfect. That was the post I had in my mind. Thanks and much appreciated. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Actually this was the post i think.. > > > " Dear Ash, and List members, > The strong planets can give the result, even if they have > sight on A,B,C houses. This is applicable only for strong planets > getting substancial points say more then 20 in work sheet. Again > those should not be afflicted by 6th lord. > House A indicates the Karkatva for house B. If any planet > being the lord of A, and is powerful having good points, for house B. > At the same time it is lord of D for the next event resulted due to > house B. For Example say 2nd house is house A for marriage then it is > house D for children. Which is not " authorised " until result of 7th > house happens. Similar thing is with house B. > > Like it sld be LOD for 5th and strong significator for 7th > > For house C it is second step. It is not connected with > immidiate effect. > I have explained in short, due to lack of time. I hope you > have understood. Or if you think on the matter, it will be clear. > krushna > > > Regards > Anup > > > ... > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Anup, > Generally, planets aspecting House A, B or C will not give result > even if its strongest. Say Sa is in 5th house with less than 4 > bindus then it will add power to ABC house so in WS u will find that > the power of Sa goes up, unless there is some planet taking power off > Sa. In that case, Sa might be NSD to Venus and if Venus is powerful > but its antra is either gone or far off after delay is over then Sa > might step in for Venus despite it aspecting House ABC. > I think there was one chart solved by Krushanji where some planet did > not give the result. > > That being said, there was a post of Krushnaji where he had said that > if the Karak planet is very very powerful and even if that planet > aspects House ABC then in that case it might give the result. Here > the power must be more than 20 in the WS. I think that was the > post... this i am saying off the top of my head... if someone has > that post or message list can post it. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " Anup. M " > <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > I think,even after aspecting house A, B and > C,a planet can give the event,if this is a " strongest " significator > of houseB being the lord of A and Lord of B and even having no SD. > > > > plz correct me if i am wrong smwhere. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > Dear Satish, > > I think we had this conversation earlier. > > > > Sa if its lord of 1 house means we are considering that that house > for > > delay. > > > > If Cancer is lagna and Sa is in 2nd house then its full delay, > becuase > > Sa is in House A, So house A is affected, Saturn aspects House C and > > then Sa itself owns house B so all 3 houses/lords are affected and > > hence full delay. > > > > I hope this is clear. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, ramesh > > > > > > How do we calculate delay for events other than > > > marriage ? Like child birth, etc. > > > > > > Secondly, if saturn becomes lord of house A, B, Or C > > > does that automatically cover one of the houses of > > > delay. So if saturn becomes lord of 7th as B, for > > > karka lagna, he now has to aspect house or lord of A > > > and C. Is this correct ? > > > > > > Satish > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Rajan and Satish, > > > > > > > > Both the lagna's are at the border. > > > > > > > > Ra in 11th and Ma in 5th for male chart means some > > > > problems. Marriage > > > > with the data given is in lowest points as well. > > > > > > > > In Girls chart, Ra aspects 11th house and Ma is > > > > aspecting 11th lord. > > > > Su to Ve distance is 44.35 deg and Ve is conjoined > > > > by Sa and Sa > > > > aspects both luminary in navamsa. > > > > > > > > This is with the data given. Now with birth time of > > > > 0:57 it means > > > > that Sa is in 3rd, so its aspecting Me who is in 5th > > > > house and Me > > > > rules Loc and LoA and Sa itself is LoB. So there > > > > should be full delay > > > > in marriage. Ju with Sa cant check delay. So with > > > > leo lagna then > > > > marriage should not have happened as yet. > > > > > > > > I am not too sure of the girls data with the data > > > > given. The time > > > > given is also 0:57 am so is this time rectified? > > > > What is the source of > > > > this time given? > > > > > > > > Ok, I have run out of time. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > From traditional VA, the current guru antar dasha > > > > > should bless you with a child. It runs through > > > > 2008. > > > > > > > > > > Guru is both lord of 5th from lagna as well as > > > > moon > > > > > and will be transiting into dhanu rashi in > > > > november. > > > > > > > > > > From KAS standpoint, I see that Saturn is > > > > aspecting > > > > > either lords or houses A,b and C if we take house > > > > 5 as > > > > > B. May be ash can comment on saturn delays in case > > > > of > > > > > child birth. How do we take delay for this event? > > > > > > > > > > Also one area that needs further detailed sriteup > > > > is > > > > > on how we deal with delays when saturn is one of > > > > the > > > > > lords of A/B/ or C but not necessarily aspects one > > > > of > > > > > the houses. e.g. Karka lagna Saturn say aspects > > > > house > > > > > A or lord of A for 7th house as B, aspects LoC or > > > > > house C but has no other connection with house B > > > > by > > > > > aspect, but he himself is loB, can we sday there > > > > is > > > > > full delay? > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > --- " rajan.chand " <rajan.chand@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > dear learned gurus > > > > > > > > > > > > i have been reading the posts & felt very > > > > impressed > > > > > > with timing of > > > > > > events. > > > > > > > > > > > > my details > > > > > > > > > > > > born 19 january 1981, 11:30 a.m. ,delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > wife > > > > > > > > > > > > born 4 dec. 1983, 12:57 a.m. , delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > > > > > 30 april 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > can anybody predict childbirth. > > > > > > > > > > > > many regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > rajan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > > Choose the right car based on your needs. 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Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Dear Ash, I am trying to collect all the old posts from Respected Krsuhnaji and you and treating these as lessons, i am learning a lot from these as well.Even your help is also much appreciated, where, we are not lucky like you to learn from Krushnaji and its very rare to have Krushnaji posts now, being busy, you are always there to teach us:) One thing more, i am getting amzing results from KAS. Regards Anup ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Anup, Perfect. That was the post I had in my mind. Thanks and much appreciated. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Actually this was the post i think.. > > > " Dear Ash, and List members, > The strong planets can give the result, even if they have > sight on A,B,C houses. This is applicable only for strong planets > getting substancial points say more then 20 in work sheet. Again > those should not be afflicted by 6th lord. > House A indicates the Karkatva for house B. If any planet > being the lord of A, and is powerful having good points, for house B. > At the same time it is lord of D for the next event resulted due to > house B. For Example say 2nd house is house A for marriage then it is > house D for children. Which is not " authorised " until result of 7th > house happens. Similar thing is with house B. > > Like it sld be LOD for 5th and strong significator for 7th > > For house C it is second step. It is not connected with > immidiate effect. > I have explained in short, due to lack of time. I hope you > have understood. Or if you think on the matter, it will be clear. > krushna > > > Regards > Anup > > > ... > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Anup, > Generally, planets aspecting House A, B or C will not give result > even if its strongest. Say Sa is in 5th house with less than 4 > bindus then it will add power to ABC house so in WS u will find that > the power of Sa goes up, unless there is some planet taking power off > Sa. In that case, Sa might be NSD to Venus and if Venus is powerful > but its antra is either gone or far off after delay is over then Sa > might step in for Venus despite it aspecting House ABC. > I think there was one chart solved by Krushanji where some planet did > not give the result. > > That being said, there was a post of Krushnaji where he had said that > if the Karak planet is very very powerful and even if that planet > aspects House ABC then in that case it might give the result. Here > the power must be more than 20 in the WS. I think that was the > post... this i am saying off the top of my head... if someone has > that post or message list can post it. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " Anup. M " > <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > I think,even after aspecting house A, B and > C,a planet can give the event,if this is a " strongest " significator > of houseB being the lord of A and Lord of B and even having no SD. > > > > plz correct me if i am wrong smwhere. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > Dear Satish, > > I think we had this conversation earlier. > > > > Sa if its lord of 1 house means we are considering that that house > for > > delay. > > > > If Cancer is lagna and Sa is in 2nd house then its full delay, > becuase > > Sa is in House A, So house A is affected, Saturn aspects House C and > > then Sa itself owns house B so all 3 houses/lords are affected and > > hence full delay. > > > > I hope this is clear. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, ramesh > > > > > > How do we calculate delay for events other than > > > marriage ? Like child birth, etc. > > > > > > Secondly, if saturn becomes lord of house A, B, Or C > > > does that automatically cover one of the houses of > > > delay. So if saturn becomes lord of 7th as B, for > > > karka lagna, he now has to aspect house or lord of A > > > and C. Is this correct ? > > > > > > Satish > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Rajan and Satish, > > > > > > > > Both the lagna's are at the border. > > > > > > > > Ra in 11th and Ma in 5th for male chart means some > > > > problems. Marriage > > > > with the data given is in lowest points as well. > > > > > > > > In Girls chart, Ra aspects 11th house and Ma is > > > > aspecting 11th lord. > > > > Su to Ve distance is 44.35 deg and Ve is conjoined > > > > by Sa and Sa > > > > aspects both luminary in navamsa. > > > > > > > > This is with the data given. Now with birth time of > > > > 0:57 it means > > > > that Sa is in 3rd, so its aspecting Me who is in 5th > > > > house and Me > > > > rules Loc and LoA and Sa itself is LoB. So there > > > > should be full delay > > > > in marriage. Ju with Sa cant check delay. So with > > > > leo lagna then > > > > marriage should not have happened as yet. > > > > > > > > I am not too sure of the girls data with the data > > > > given. The time > > > > given is also 0:57 am so is this time rectified? > > > > What is the source of > > > > this time given? > > > > > > > > Ok, I have run out of time. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > From traditional VA, the current guru antar dasha > > > > > should bless you with a child. It runs through > > > > 2008. > > > > > > > > > > Guru is both lord of 5th from lagna as well as > > > > moon > > > > > and will be transiting into dhanu rashi in > > > > november. > > > > > > > > > > From KAS standpoint, I see that Saturn is > > > > aspecting > > > > > either lords or houses A,b and C if we take house > > > > 5 as > > > > > B. May be ash can comment on saturn delays in case > > > > of > > > > > child birth. How do we take delay for this event? > > > > > > > > > > Also one area that needs further detailed sriteup > > > > is > > > > > on how we deal with delays when saturn is one of > > > > the > > > > > lords of A/B/ or C but not necessarily aspects one > > > > of > > > > > the houses. e.g. Karka lagna Saturn say aspects > > > > house > > > > > A or lord of A for 7th house as B, aspects LoC or > > > > > house C but has no other connection with house B > > > > by > > > > > aspect, but he himself is loB, can we sday there > > > > is > > > > > full delay? > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > --- " rajan.chand " <rajan.chand@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > dear learned gurus > > > > > > > > > > > > i have been reading the posts & felt very > > > > impressed > > > > > > with timing of > > > > > > events. > > > > > > > > > > > > my details > > > > > > > > > > > > born 19 january 1981, 11:30 a.m. ,delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > wife > > > > > > > > > > > > born 4 dec. 1983, 12:57 a.m. , delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > married > > > > > > > > > > > > 30 april 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > can anybody predict childbirth. > > > > > > > > > > > > many regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > rajan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check > > > > out Autos > > > > new Car Finder tool. > > > > > http://autos./carfinder/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > > > that gives answers, not web links. > > > http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get the toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're > surfing. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Hello, Has anyone posted regarding the question of delay for childbirth. How do we quatify it? Lets say there is no delay for marriage but delay for child birth due to saturn. Will that delay get over after 27.5 years. Secondly if there is delay for marriage and also for child birth. Do we calculate delay after the marriage date? Thanks Satish --- " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Actually this was the post i think.. > > > " Dear Ash, and List members, > The strong planets can give the result, even if they > have > sight on A,B,C houses. This is applicable only for > strong planets > getting substancial points say more then 20 in work > sheet. Again > those should not be afflicted by 6th lord. > House A indicates the Karkatva for house B. If any > planet > being the lord of A, and is powerful having good > points, for house B. > At the same time it is lord of D for the next event > resulted due to > house B. For Example say 2nd house is house A for > marriage then it is > house D for children. Which is not " authorised " > until result of 7th > house happens. Similar thing is with house B. > > Like it sld be LOD for 5th and strong significator > for 7th > > For house C it is second step. It is not connected > with > immidiate effect. > I have explained in short, due to lack of time. I > hope you > have understood. Or if you think on the matter, it > will be clear. > krushna > > > Regards > Anup ______________________________\ ____ Get the toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar./toolbar/features/mail/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Dear Satish and List Members, Difficult question you ask :-). Ok, let me try and start a new area. So far Krushanji has not given a lesson on the same so take it in an open way and don't firm your opinion on it till u try this on many charts. Once Krushanji explains in lesson it will get clear. Ok. First thing for a child birth is that the person must have capacity to have children. For that 8th house and 12th house are important. If 8th house of Karak of 8th house and 12th house and karak for 12th house are disturbed then there can be very delayed children or no children at all. 9th house is also important as that indicates future generation as well. If marriage is in lowest power planet and at the same time 9th house is spoilt then there might not be any children and there might not any divorce. Mostly it happens and with solving charts you will see that in many cases when there are no children then such marriages have happened in low points planet. So we have to study all these things keenly. Rest about Ma and Ra etc are given in lessons. So that is first thing to see. Next assuming that everything is ok, and person both male and female a chart promise children then we come to timing of event. If marriage is delayed then it automatically means child birth is also delayed, mostly in a society like India where having children prior to marriage is not supported by society. Say there is early marriage according to your example and say Sa is in 3rd house then it means 5th house matters will get delayed. Now if this person can have children then we go for timing. Now how much delay. So for this u must check when Saturn aspects lagna. So take that much delay. So when Saturn comes to 4th house, 7th house or 11th house after marriage then that much will be the delay. Now what is the meaning of this. It means that Saturn when it aspects the lagna is removing obstruction from self thereby making way for conception to take place. So if there is delay of marraige say to 27.5 years so it means Sa wil come to 4th house so from 4th house it will aspect 1st house so delay will get over on 27.5 years so u can start to see child birth after that. So this will vary chart by chart. Use this as a hint. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Hello, > > Has anyone posted regarding the question of delay for > childbirth. How do we quatify it? Lets say there is no > delay for marriage but delay for child birth due to > saturn. Will that delay get over after 27.5 years. > > Secondly if there is delay for marriage and also for > child birth. Do we calculate delay after the marriage > date? > > Thanks > > Satish > --- " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Actually this was the post i think.. > > > > > > " Dear Ash, and List members, > > The strong planets can give the result, even if they > > have > > sight on A,B,C houses. This is applicable only for > > strong planets > > getting substancial points say more then 20 in work > > sheet. Again > > those should not be afflicted by 6th lord. > > House A indicates the Karkatva for house B. If any > > planet > > being the lord of A, and is powerful having good > > points, for house B. > > At the same time it is lord of D for the next event > > resulted due to > > house B. For Example say 2nd house is house A for > > marriage then it is > > house D for children. Which is not " authorised " > > until result of 7th > > house happens. Similar thing is with house B. > > > > Like it sld be LOD for 5th and strong significator > > for 7th > > > > For house C it is second step. It is not connected > > with > > immidiate effect. > > I have explained in short, due to lack of time. I > > hope you > > have understood. Or if you think on the matter, it > > will be clear. > > krushna > > > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Get the toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. > http://new.toolbar./toolbar/features/mail/index.php > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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