Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Dear Group, I had posted this mail on another list. Am posting it here as well so that the group members can also understand it Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca -------------------------------- Dear Krishna, If I am add my thoughts, in KAS also we give equal importance to Rasi and Navamsa, but there is some difference. We get samdharmi's from Navamsa, we also find the procession using 10th lords from lagna sun mo and see where they are placed in navamsa. We also check say if Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo or Su and Mo are in 1:7 in navamsa then they cease to become Samdharmis. Also in addition we check blessings so if navamsa lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 or if lagna lord and lagna 9th lord are in 5:9 in navamsa we say that there is blessing so here navamsa has its importance. However for timing of events, the power of planets are from Rasi. When navamsa is used then in that we do not check the ashtakavarga power using 4:10 or aspects, so that is for finding the power in any of the varga but we only take the basic power i.e. the addition of power of the house that u are seeing the 5th from that and 8th from that and add that as the Basic power of the house. So equal importance is given in that sense, but for timing of events we check the power, 4:10, power gained or lost due to aspects on house and lords etc only from Rasi. For samdharmis calculations we use navamsa for example if 2 planets are in 5:9 in rasi in exact they will come together in navamsa so they will become samdharmi. Planets become Samdharmi to their navamsa lords they are placed in. Planets when they conjoin in navamsa they become samdharmi however of a weaker grade as compared to navamsa depositer so things like that. In short we find the samdharmi's from rasi and navamsa. That is not done using any other d-chart. So we say that Navamsa has equal importance to Rasi. So in summary 1) For total power for timing of event is Rasi (there 4:10, aspects are used) 2) For finding samdharmi (Rasi and Navamsa are both used) 3) For finding blessing both rasi and navamsa are used 4) For finding power in Navamsa then only basic strength is used i.e. A+B+C points but no power gained due to aspects or 4:10 and that is the same we use for all D-charts. 5) For timing of events also navamsa place a role, say Sa in 5th house would delay marriage so here we are only using House in navamsa but not the lords of house in navamsa. So this is a special case as Saturn will aspect the house A, B and C of the 3rd house from where its placed. So here there is a difference where the lords of the house in navamsa are not used. 6) No other d chart is used to find Samdharmi so in that way Navamsa has equal importance as Rasi. 7) Another differnce is that panets do not become SD to the rasi lord where they are placed, but they do become SD to the navamsa lord they are placed in so again Navamsa is having its importance. This is as per the view point of KAS System and hope that it helps in the discussion. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear Kolachina ji, > > It was interesting to read your comments on importance of the > Navamsa chart. I too to the view that Navamsa chart is > as important as Rasi chart. This is based on my experience so > far reading charts. However, I have still not understood what > are the fundamental reasons for a varga chart being so > important. > > - Why strength of a planet is Navamsa determines the overall > strength of a planet? > - Why it is allowed to consider aspects in Navamsa chart like > aspects in a Rasi chart? > - Why sambandha of planets in Navamsa chart can be treated as if > the planets have a sambandha in Rasi chart? > - Why yogas should be looked at in navamsa chart as well? > > By looking at the kind of importance given to Navamsa chart, it > appears that the Rasi chart and Navamsa chart make up two equal > halves representing the native. > > I have no doubts about the importance of Navamsa Chart. What I > would like to know is why Navamsa gains such an importance? What > are the fundamental reasons? After all it is one of many varga > charts! > > Regards, > Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 thanks very much for the wonderful post. regards harjeet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Group, > I had posted this mail on another list. Am posting it here as well so > that the group members can also understand it > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > -------------------------------- > > Dear Krishna, > > If I am add my thoughts, in KAS also we give equal importance to Rasi > and Navamsa, but there is some difference. > > We get samdharmi's from Navamsa, we also find the procession using > 10th lords from lagna sun mo and see where they are placed in navamsa. > We also check say if Ve and Sa or Ma and Mo or Su and Mo are in 1:7 > in navamsa then they cease to become Samdharmis. > Also in addition we check blessings so if navamsa lagna and 9th lords > are in 5:9 or if lagna lord and lagna 9th lord are in 5:9 in navamsa > we say that there is blessing so here navamsa has its importance. > > However for timing of events, the power of planets are from Rasi. > When navamsa is used then in that we do not check the ashtakavarga > power using 4:10 or aspects, so that is for finding the power in any > of the varga but we only take the basic power i.e. the addition of > power of the house that u are seeing the 5th from that and 8th from > that and add that as the Basic power of the house. > > So equal importance is given in that sense, but for timing of events > we check the power, 4:10, power gained or lost due to aspects on house > and lords etc only from Rasi. > > For samdharmis calculations we use navamsa for example if 2 planets > are in 5:9 in rasi in exact they will come together in navamsa so they > will become samdharmi. > > Planets become Samdharmi to their navamsa lords they are placed in. > > Planets when they conjoin in navamsa they become samdharmi however of > a weaker grade as compared to navamsa depositer so things like that. > In short we find the samdharmi's from rasi and navamsa. > > That is not done using any other d-chart. So we say that Navamsa has > equal importance to Rasi. > > So in summary > > 1) For total power for timing of event is Rasi (there 4:10, aspects > are used) > 2) For finding samdharmi (Rasi and Navamsa are both used) > 3) For finding blessing both rasi and navamsa are used > 4) For finding power in Navamsa then only basic strength is used i.e. > A+B+C points but no power gained due to aspects or 4:10 and that is > the same we use for all D-charts. > 5) For timing of events also navamsa place a role, say Sa in 5th house > would delay marriage so here we are only using House in navamsa but > not the lords of house in navamsa. So this is a special case as > Saturn will aspect the house A, B and C of the 3rd house from where > its placed. So here there is a difference where the lords of the > house in navamsa are not used. > 6) No other d chart is used to find Samdharmi so in that way Navamsa > has equal importance as Rasi. > 7) Another differnce is that panets do not become SD to the rasi lord > where they are placed, but they do become SD to the navamsa lord they > are placed in so again Navamsa is having its importance. > > > This is as per the view point of KAS System and hope that it helps in > the discussion. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama > <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kolachina ji, > > > > It was interesting to read your comments on importance of the > > Navamsa chart. I too to the view that Navamsa chart is > > as important as Rasi chart. This is based on my experience so > > far reading charts. However, I have still not understood what > > are the fundamental reasons for a varga chart being so > > important. > > > > - Why strength of a planet is Navamsa determines the overall > > strength of a planet? > > - Why it is allowed to consider aspects in Navamsa chart like > > aspects in a Rasi chart? > > - Why sambandha of planets in Navamsa chart can be treated as if > > the planets have a sambandha in Rasi chart? > > - Why yogas should be looked at in navamsa chart as well? > > > > By looking at the kind of importance given to Navamsa chart, it > > appears that the Rasi chart and Navamsa chart make up two equal > > halves representing the native. > > > > I have no doubts about the importance of Navamsa Chart. What I > > would like to know is why Navamsa gains such an importance? What > > are the fundamental reasons? After all it is one of many varga > > charts! > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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