Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Dear krushna and members this is a chart of a person : D.O.B:4 september 1972 time of birth:8:30 pm place: iran,Tehran 51E42 , 36N07 time zone:3:30(east of G.M.T) his grand father(the father of his mother) dead in 19 March 1989 Can you Find this event from his chart? thanks and best wishes Hussein Abdi,Iran Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Dear Hussein, I am getting asc as 9 Ar 11. In KAS third house is the house of mother. So 11th house is the house of father of your mother. Therefore 11th house is the house of grandfather of the native. The house of death of grandfather is now 6th house. The karak of 11th is Me who aspects malefically the house of grandfather. The death occurred on 19 Mar 1989 when the native was passing through Ra antara in Me main. Me being the karak of 11th is weak in WS for 11th thereby good result will not be given by Me MD. When you analyse 6th ( 8th from 11th ), you may see that Su is 12th lord from 6th combined with Me ( LoB ) and Ma (LoA ) aspects 11th house, the house of grandfather. Sa is powerfull in 10 th from Su, Me and Ma and aspects with malefic sight on 11th. Sa is LoE for 6th. Ra is SD to Sa . Ra is posited in 12th from 11th. Sa is powerful in WS with 15 points for 6th whereas it is weak in lagna with 11 points. Lagna is 3rd from 11th and 6th is 8th from 11th. Lagna is life and 6th is death for 11th of grandfather.Life is weaker than death. So Ra antara gave death to the grandfather. On the date of death Su was transiting in Pi (12th house of loss of native) and in the nakshtra ruled by Sa ( 12th lord of 11th ). I think this may be correct analysis. If it is wrong anywhere , it may be corrected by our seniors. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: Dear krushna and members this is a chart of a person : D.O.B:4 september 1972 time of birth:8:30 pm place: iran,Tehran 51E42 , 36N07 time zone:3:30(east of G.M.T) his grand father(the father of his mother) dead in 19 March 1989 Can you Find this event from his chart? thanks and best wishes Hussein Abdi,Iran Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Dear Ramesh, Your analysis is on right track, but at the same time also keep in mind that sometimes far off relation and that too it must be blood relation might not be seen clearly. Sometimes even fathers or mothers who have adopted the child then from that child's chart the parents who have adopted the boy or girl their deaths might not be seen. Keep such things in mind as well, when studying. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Hussein, > I am getting asc as 9 Ar 11. In KAS third house is the house of mother. So 11th house is the house of father of your mother. > Therefore 11th house is the house of grandfather of the native. > The house of death of grandfather is now 6th house. > The karak of 11th is Me who aspects malefically the house of grandfather. > The death occurred on 19 Mar 1989 when the native was passing through Ra antara in Me main. > Me being the karak of 11th is weak in WS for 11th thereby good result will not be given by Me MD. > When you analyse 6th ( 8th from 11th ), you may see that Su is 12th lord from 6th combined with Me ( LoB ) and Ma (LoA ) aspects 11th house, the house of grandfather. > Sa is powerfull in 10 th from Su, Me and Ma and aspects with malefic sight on 11th. > Sa is LoE for 6th. Ra is SD to Sa . Ra is posited in 12th from 11th. > Sa is powerful in WS with 15 points for 6th whereas it is weak in lagna with 11 points. > Lagna is 3rd from 11th and 6th is 8th from 11th. > Lagna is life and 6th is death for 11th of grandfather.Life is weaker than death. > So Ra antara gave death to the grandfather. > On the date of death Su was transiting in Pi (12th house of loss of native) and in the nakshtra ruled by Sa ( 12th lord of 11th ). > I think this may be correct analysis. If it is wrong anywhere , it may be corrected by our seniors. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > > hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: > Dear krushna and members > this is a chart of a person : > D.O.B:4 september 1972 > time of birth:8:30 pm > place: iran,Tehran > 51E42 , 36N07 > time zone:3:30(east of G.M.T) > his grand father(the father of his mother) dead in 19 March 1989 > Can you Find this event from his chart? > thanks and best wishes > Hussein Abdi,Iran > > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. > Visit the Auto Green Center. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Dear Ramesh Mishra Thank you very much for your good analysis.i think your analysis is correct. But sa is not most strength significator for the 6th(8th from 11th), and moon is most strength for this house and has not any sight to the 6th house , then why Saturn give the results? Assume that we don't know the correct date for his grandfather's death, how we can find the correct date for this? In fact I want to say that if the most strength significator for an house(B house for an event) don't has any sight on the significator houses(A-B-C) , is it true only this most strength significator Can give the results?in the analysis of this native, sa is a strong significator but is not most strength but sa give the results for his grandfather's death.please explain this for me. Thanks and best wishes Hussein Abdi,Iran(Borazjan) ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Ramesh, Your analysis is on right track, but at the same time also keep in mind that sometimes far off relation and that too it must be blood relation might not be seen clearly. Sometimes even fathers or mothers who have adopted the child then from that child's chart the parents who have adopted the boy or girl their deaths might not be seen. Keep such things in mind as well, when studying. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Hussein, > I am getting asc as 9 Ar 11. In KAS third house is the house of mother. So 11th house is the house of father of your mother. > Therefore 11th house is the house of grandfather of the native. > The house of death of grandfather is now 6th house. > The karak of 11th is Me who aspects malefically the house of grandfather. > The death occurred on 19 Mar 1989 when the native was passing through Ra antara in Me main. > Me being the karak of 11th is weak in WS for 11th thereby good result will not be given by Me MD. > When you analyse 6th ( 8th from 11th ), you may see that Su is 12th lord from 6th combined with Me ( LoB ) and Ma (LoA ) aspects 11th house, the house of grandfather. > Sa is powerfull in 10 th from Su, Me and Ma and aspects with malefic sight on 11th. > Sa is LoE for 6th. Ra is SD to Sa . Ra is posited in 12th from 11th. > Sa is powerful in WS with 15 points for 6th whereas it is weak in lagna with 11 points. > Lagna is 3rd from 11th and 6th is 8th from 11th. > Lagna is life and 6th is death for 11th of grandfather.Life is weaker than death. > So Ra antara gave death to the grandfather. > On the date of death Su was transiting in Pi (12th house of loss of native) and in the nakshtra ruled by Sa ( 12th lord of 11th ). > I think this may be correct analysis. If it is wrong anywhere , it may be corrected by our seniors. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > > hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: > Dear krushna and members > this is a chart of a person : > D.O.B:4 september 1972 > time of birth:8:30 pm > place: iran,Tehran > 51E42 , 36N07 > time zone:3:30(east of G.M.T) > his grand father(the father of his mother) dead in 19 March 1989 > Can you Find this event from his chart? > thanks and best wishes > Hussein Abdi,Iran > > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. > Visit the Auto Green Center. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Dear Hossien, Please read the postings of Ash. If it was given blindly, it would not have been possible for me to find out the date of event. Since the date was given I tried to analyse this. Even it might be wrong. Read the lessons,archives and try to find out yourself. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: Dear Ramesh Mishra Thank you very much for your good analysis.i think your analysis is correct. But sa is not most strength significator for the 6th(8th from 11th), and moon is most strength for this house and has not any sight to the 6th house , then why Saturn give the results? Assume that we don't know the correct date for his grandfather's death, how we can find the correct date for this? In fact I want to say that if the most strength significator for an house(B house for an event) don't has any sight on the significator houses(A-B-C) , is it true only this most strength significator Can give the results?in the analysis of this native, sa is a strong significator but is not most strength but sa give the results for his grandfather's death.please explain this for me. Thanks and best wishes Hussein Abdi,Iran(Borazjan) ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Ramesh, Your analysis is on right track, but at the same time also keep in mind that sometimes far off relation and that too it must be blood relation might not be seen clearly. Sometimes even fathers or mothers who have adopted the child then from that child's chart the parents who have adopted the boy or girl their deaths might not be seen. Keep such things in mind as well, when studying. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Hussein, > I am getting asc as 9 Ar 11. In KAS third house is the house of mother. So 11th house is the house of father of your mother. > Therefore 11th house is the house of grandfather of the native. > The house of death of grandfather is now 6th house. > The karak of 11th is Me who aspects malefically the house of grandfather. > The death occurred on 19 Mar 1989 when the native was passing through Ra antara in Me main. > Me being the karak of 11th is weak in WS for 11th thereby good result will not be given by Me MD. > When you analyse 6th ( 8th from 11th ), you may see that Su is 12th lord from 6th combined with Me ( LoB ) and Ma (LoA ) aspects 11th house, the house of grandfather. > Sa is powerfull in 10 th from Su, Me and Ma and aspects with malefic sight on 11th. > Sa is LoE for 6th. Ra is SD to Sa . Ra is posited in 12th from 11th. > Sa is powerful in WS with 15 points for 6th whereas it is weak in lagna with 11 points. > Lagna is 3rd from 11th and 6th is 8th from 11th. > Lagna is life and 6th is death for 11th of grandfather.Life is weaker than death. > So Ra antara gave death to the grandfather. > On the date of death Su was transiting in Pi (12th house of loss of native) and in the nakshtra ruled by Sa ( 12th lord of 11th ). > I think this may be correct analysis. If it is wrong anywhere , it may be corrected by our seniors. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > > hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: > Dear krushna and members > this is a chart of a person : > D.O.B:4 september 1972 > time of birth:8:30 pm > place: iran,Tehran > 51E42 , 36N07 > time zone:3:30(east of G.M.T) > his grand father(the father of his mother) dead in 19 March 1989 > Can you Find this event from his chart? > thanks and best wishes > Hussein Abdi,Iran > > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. > Visit the Auto Green Center. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Dear Ramesh and Hussien, Its given in lessons that good events happen in LoD or LoE or in highest points. Atleast more than 12. Now, firstly, the person u said is mothers father. Now in this case it so happens that Saturn is LoE for 6th house. Now for any event to happen, for LoD and LoE are special. Even if they have less points in the WS they are still eager to deliver the event. This is also given in lessons. So in this case, if u ask blindly then u must also keep in mind the following things 1) Death topic is not taught. 2) Its a very far off relation and the chart is of a native. As Krushnaji told once, if u can judge the fathers, fathers, fathers death from a chart and if u are able to do that then u can reach upto adam and eve lol... but kidding aside, just try to think of one thing that the chart is of the native so all events will be dealing with the native. Now, death of such a far off event might not be accurately judged in all cases. 3) In your particular case, you can say that Sa is LoE for 6th as B. Logic. 1) 3rd is Mother 2) 9th from Mother is her father so that makes it 11th house as B 3) Death of Mother's father is 6th house i.e 8th from 11th. 4) LoD = 3rd lord and LoE = 11th lord. 5) Death happened in Ra antra, Ra is SD to Saturn. 6) 11th lord is Sa so LoE. In Conclusion -> Death happened in antra of LoE. This way you can justify. But in some other charts if u are not able to judge the deaths of grand father or great grand father or mother or relationship like that then do not be surprise and atleast you will understand it with proper reasoning. Otherwise, using VA, or anything, any event can be justified. If you want to see how blind charts have been solved, just go through the archives, it has a wealth of information and from that you can grasp the technique and thereby u will be able to time events blindly. Hope this post helps, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Hossien, > Please read the postings of Ash. > If it was given blindly, it would not have been possible for me to find out the date of event. > Since the date was given I tried to analyse this. Even it might be wrong. > Read the lessons,archives and try to find out yourself. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: > > Dear Ramesh Mishra > Thank you very much for your good analysis.i think your analysis is correct. > But sa is not most strength significator for the 6th(8th from 11th), and moon is most strength for this house and has not any sight to the 6th house , then why Saturn give the results? > Assume that we don't know the correct date for his grandfather's death, how we can find the correct date for this? > In fact I want to say that if the most strength significator for an house(B house for an event) don't has any sight on the significator houses(A-B-C) , is it true only this most strength significator Can give the results?in the analysis of this native, sa is a strong significator but is not most strength but sa give the results for his grandfather's death.please explain this for me. > Thanks and best wishes > Hussein Abdi,Iran(Borazjan) > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Ramesh, > Your analysis is on right track, but at the same time also keep in > mind that sometimes far off relation and that too it must be blood > relation might not be seen clearly. > > Sometimes even fathers or mothers who have adopted the child then from > that child's chart the parents who have adopted the boy or girl their > deaths might not be seen. > > Keep such things in mind as well, when studying. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Hussein, > > I am getting asc as 9 Ar 11. In KAS third house is the house of > mother. So 11th house is the house of father of your mother. > > Therefore 11th house is the house of grandfather of the native. > > The house of death of grandfather is now 6th house. > > The karak of 11th is Me who aspects malefically the house of > grandfather. > > The death occurred on 19 Mar 1989 when the native was passing > through Ra antara in Me main. > > Me being the karak of 11th is weak in WS for 11th thereby good > result will not be given by Me MD. > > When you analyse 6th ( 8th from 11th ), you may see that Su is > 12th lord from 6th combined with Me ( LoB ) and Ma (LoA ) aspects 11th > house, the house of grandfather. > > Sa is powerfull in 10 th from Su, Me and Ma and aspects with > malefic sight on 11th. > > Sa is LoE for 6th. Ra is SD to Sa . Ra is posited in 12th from 11th. > > Sa is powerful in WS with 15 points for 6th whereas it is weak in > lagna with 11 points. > > Lagna is 3rd from 11th and 6th is 8th from 11th. > > Lagna is life and 6th is death for 11th of grandfather.Life is > weaker than death. > > So Ra antara gave death to the grandfather. > > On the date of death Su was transiting in Pi (12th house of loss > of native) and in the nakshtra ruled by Sa ( 12th lord of 11th ). > > I think this may be correct analysis. If it is wrong anywhere , it > may be corrected by our seniors. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > hossien abdee <ahahosien@> wrote: > > Dear krushna and members > > this is a chart of a person : > > D.O.B:4 september 1972 > > time of birth:8:30 pm > > place: iran,Tehran > > 51E42 , 36N07 > > time zone:3:30(east of G.M.T) > > his grand father(the father of his mother) dead in 19 March 1989 > > Can you Find this event from his chart? > > thanks and best wishes > > Hussein Abdi,Iran > > > > > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. > > Visit the Auto Green Center. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Dear ashsam and Ramesh thank you very much for your help and good analysis. another my questions are :1- what is the date for death of his father?(father of native)? 2-when this person will marriage? i give again D.O.B for him: D.O.B:4 september 1972 > > time of birth:8:30 pm > > place: iran,Tehran > > 51E42 , 36N07 > > time zone:3:30(east of G.M.T) thanks and best wishes Hussein Abdi ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Ramesh and Hussien, Its given in lessons that good events happen in LoD or LoE or in highest points. Atleast more than 12. Now, firstly, the person u said is mothers father. Now in this case it so happens that Saturn is LoE for 6th house. Now for any event to happen, for LoD and LoE are special. Even if they have less points in the WS they are still eager to deliver the event. This is also given in lessons. So in this case, if u ask blindly then u must also keep in mind the following things 1) Death topic is not taught. 2) Its a very far off relation and the chart is of a native. As Krushnaji told once, if u can judge the fathers, fathers, fathers death from a chart and if u are able to do that then u can reach upto adam and eve lol... but kidding aside, just try to think of one thing that the chart is of the native so all events will be dealing with the native. Now, death of such a far off event might not be accurately judged in all cases. 3) In your particular case, you can say that Sa is LoE for 6th as B. Logic. 1) 3rd is Mother 2) 9th from Mother is her father so that makes it 11th house as B 3) Death of Mother's father is 6th house i.e 8th from 11th. 4) LoD = 3rd lord and LoE = 11th lord. 5) Death happened in Ra antra, Ra is SD to Saturn. 6) 11th lord is Sa so LoE. In Conclusion -> Death happened in antra of LoE. This way you can justify. But in some other charts if u are not able to judge the deaths of grand father or great grand father or mother or relationship like that then do not be surprise and atleast you will understand it with proper reasoning. Otherwise, using VA, or anything, any event can be justified. If you want to see how blind charts have been solved, just go through the archives, it has a wealth of information and from that you can grasp the technique and thereby u will be able to time events blindly. Hope this post helps, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Hossien, > Please read the postings of Ash. > If it was given blindly, it would not have been possible for me to find out the date of event. > Since the date was given I tried to analyse this. Even it might be wrong. > Read the lessons,archives and try to find out yourself. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > hossien abdee <ahahosien wrote: > > Dear Ramesh Mishra > Thank you very much for your good analysis.i think your analysis is correct. > But sa is not most strength significator for the 6th(8th from 11th), and moon is most strength for this house and has not any sight to the 6th house , then why Saturn give the results? > Assume that we don't know the correct date for his grandfather's death, how we can find the correct date for this? > In fact I want to say that if the most strength significator for an house(B house for an event) don't has any sight on the significator houses(A-B-C) , is it true only this most strength significator Can give the results?in the analysis of this native, sa is a strong significator but is not most strength but sa give the results for his grandfather's death.please explain this for me. > Thanks and best wishes > Hussein Abdi,Iran(Borazjan) > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Ramesh, > Your analysis is on right track, but at the same time also keep in > mind that sometimes far off relation and that too it must be blood > relation might not be seen clearly. > > Sometimes even fathers or mothers who have adopted the child then from > that child's chart the parents who have adopted the boy or girl their > deaths might not be seen. > > Keep such things in mind as well, when studying. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , ramesh mishra > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote: > > > > Dear Hussein, > > I am getting asc as 9 Ar 11. In KAS third house is the house of > mother. So 11th house is the house of father of your mother. > > Therefore 11th house is the house of grandfather of the native. > > The house of death of grandfather is now 6th house. > > The karak of 11th is Me who aspects malefically the house of > grandfather. > > The death occurred on 19 Mar 1989 when the native was passing > through Ra antara in Me main. > > Me being the karak of 11th is weak in WS for 11th thereby good > result will not be given by Me MD. > > When you analyse 6th ( 8th from 11th ), you may see that Su is > 12th lord from 6th combined with Me ( LoB ) and Ma (LoA ) aspects 11th > house, the house of grandfather. > > Sa is powerfull in 10 th from Su, Me and Ma and aspects with > malefic sight on 11th. > > Sa is LoE for 6th. Ra is SD to Sa . Ra is posited in 12th from 11th. > > Sa is powerful in WS with 15 points for 6th whereas it is weak in > lagna with 11 points. > > Lagna is 3rd from 11th and 6th is 8th from 11th. > > Lagna is life and 6th is death for 11th of grandfather.Life is > weaker than death. > > So Ra antara gave death to the grandfather. > > On the date of death Su was transiting in Pi (12th house of loss > of native) and in the nakshtra ruled by Sa ( 12th lord of 11th ). > > I think this may be correct analysis. If it is wrong anywhere , it > may be corrected by our seniors. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > hossien abdee <ahahosien@> wrote: > > Dear krushna and members > > this is a chart of a person : > > D.O.B:4 september 1972 > > time of birth:8:30 pm > > place: iran,Tehran > > 51E42 , 36N07 > > time zone:3:30(east of G.M.T) > > his grand father(the father of his mother) dead in 19 March 1989 > > Can you Find this event from his chart? > > thanks and best wishes > > Hussein Abdi,Iran > > > > > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. > > Visit the Auto Green Center. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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