Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Hello everyone, I just lost my job a few days back and never seem to be sucessful in any venture. I was advised to keep away from business and even service does not really help. Tried to make a house and things did not seem to materialize, career is just side tracked to a tangent not in line with my education (engineer by profession) and marriage is still not in the cards. My major concern seems to be career and money both of which are unsatisfactor. I suppose I can live single for the rest of my life, I can live in remote places which might be a result of work. But I absolutely want to attain a high position in my career and definetly seeking financial security. I wonder if anyone will be kind enough of say weather I would find a decent job and make enough money in life to live a normal fullfilling life. As i said it does not seem to happy. Some events as required on my part 1. Completed education end of 2005 (engineering chemical) 2. Moved abroad to the west in may of 98 3. worked with a consulting firm from july 2006 to aug 2007 details are August 6 1980, @ 00:04am (4 mintues right after midnite), bombay. I am told the acedent in my chart is aries with moon in second any assistance or help would be much appreciated since I am not really well versed with astrology and would like to seek some guidance during trouble times. regards Vish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Hi, You will be gainfully employed in spring of 2008. The things will start to move after Guru moves to dhanu rashi in November. This does not mean you won't have any job during this period. But gainful employment will resume next year in Spring. You will also get arried in the Guru-guru dasha. Currentlyu you are in dasha chidra rahu-mangal and guru-guru. Mangal has zero point in BAV in leo and currently shani just transitted into leo. Guru is in the 8th house. Mangal is 8th lord, with shani the 10th lord shani. Mangal anter dasha started in March of 2007. The stress at work may have increased after the advent of this antara. Good luck. Recite Gayatri matra everyday if you can. Satish --- enigmaoflife21 <enigmaoflife21 wrote: > Hello everyone, > I just lost my job a few days back and never seem to > be sucessful in > any venture. I was advised to keep away from > business and even service > does not really help. Tried to make a house and > things did not seem to > materialize, career is just side tracked to a > tangent not in line with > my education (engineer by profession) and marriage > is still not in the > cards. My major concern seems to be career and money > both of which are > unsatisfactor. I suppose I can live single for the > rest of my life, I > can live in remote places which might be a result of > work. But I > absolutely want to attain a high position in my > career and definetly > seeking financial security. I wonder if anyone will > be kind enough of > say weather I would find a decent job and make > enough money in life to > live a normal fullfilling life. As i said it does > not seem to happy. > > Some events as required on my part > > 1. Completed education end of 2005 (engineering > chemical) > 2. Moved abroad to the west in may of 98 > 3. worked with a consulting firm from july 2006 to > aug 2007 > > details are > August 6 1980, @ 00:04am (4 mintues right after > midnite), bombay. I am > told the acedent in my chart is aries with moon in > second > > any assistance or help would be much appreciated > since I am not really > well versed with astrology and would like to seek > some guidance during > trouble times. > > regards > Vish > > ______________________________\ ____ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. http://travel./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Dear Vish, just want to try your chart. try to read the lesson and get familiar with terms. all the planets are more than 4 points except saturn... reducing the status of the chart. one zero in 5th house... sav points in 11th house is less than 12th house... showing more expense.. current antra of mars having low points for 6th and 10th house. saturn going over house giving zero causing trouble. points for sa+ju is less than 8. daily points are less than 196. have to be careful in next year sa+ju points drop to 5 points.(min 8 required).around end of june next year mars also goes over leo the house that gives zero points.. causing more problems. besides next antra of jupiter have very low points for 6th house for job and 11th house of income... and more for 10th house of effort and 12th house of expense.. antra of saturn after feb 2010 would give relief.. as points for saturn for 11th house is more than previous antra but the points for 11th and 12th house are same. next antra of mercury is strong for 6,10,11 houses would give better results around aug end 2012.. regarding marriage venus is in adra nakshatra and more than 43 degree away and having sight of saturn..and lord of 6th house in 4th house which happens to be house D. besides zero in 5th house... but i am not going in detail. thanks/regards harjeet , " enigmaoflife21 " <enigmaoflife21 wrote: > > Hello everyone, > I just lost my job a few days back and never seem to be sucessful in > any venture. I was advised to keep away from business and even service > does not really help. Tried to make a house and things did not seem to > materialize, career is just side tracked to a tangent not in line with > my education (engineer by profession) and marriage is still not in the > cards. My major concern seems to be career and money both of which are > unsatisfactor. I suppose I can live single for the rest of my life, I > can live in remote places which might be a result of work. But I > absolutely want to attain a high position in my career and definetly > seeking financial security. I wonder if anyone will be kind enough of > say weather I would find a decent job and make enough money in life to > live a normal fullfilling life. As i said it does not seem to happy. > > Some events as required on my part > > 1. Completed education end of 2005 (engineering chemical) > 2. Moved abroad to the west in may of 98 > 3. worked with a consulting firm from july 2006 to aug 2007 > > details are > August 6 1980, @ 00:04am (4 mintues right after midnite), bombay. I am > told the acedent in my chart is aries with moon in second > > any assistance or help would be much appreciated since I am not really > well versed with astrology and would like to seek some guidance during > trouble times. > > regards > Vish > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Dear SRK, Some interesting pointers and I do agree with a few of them the rest remains to be see I suppose when I move into the future. A few questions with my playing around with the system myself and looking at my chart. 1. I see in the excel workbook that my H11 has generally favaroble planetry points expect for jupiter which as low points for 11th house matters. So it is resonable to assume that generally speaking the income will remain good through out life. Or the rule of 12th house having more point than 11th takes over and will I keep struggling in debt for most of the life. 2. When seen from parashara system, jupiters Maha Dasa is suppose to bring prosperity since jupiter rules the 9th and 12th house and is aspecting 9th house along with aspect of venus from the 3rd house. I imagine prosperity is what everyone seeks (growth) there are people out there, who with low income build houses and lead a resonable life and there are people out there who insipite of having a very high income are still in debt and struggling to make ends meet. But with the Krushna system I see that the predictions are somewhat contrary to the prasarshra system. So do u think during jup-jup there would be prosperity, growth or only silly expenses that would take me more into debt. 3. I am wondering if Jupiter Maha Dasa as a whole would be fruitful or wasteful for my life? 4. Finally to share a thought about my debt issue. I have ended up going into expenses and debt not so much during to expenses (i just have standard expenses of house, etc etc) but while I was in school, due to student loans which I am still paying off. I was in school from 1998 to end of 2005 (during which time I ran many sub periods weather good for income or bad for income) and everything was literally an expense (without any income since I was a full time student). So somehow I am finding it hard to tie in some of the pointers given simply because I ran sub periods during 1998 - 2005 which were suppose to be good for income or bad for debt yet, as many of us in the west live we end up taking student loans to fund the expensive cost of education, especially a dual engineering education. regards Vish , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Hi, > > You will be gainfully employed in spring of 2008. The > things will start to move after Guru moves to dhanu > rashi in November. This does not mean you won't have > any job during this period. But gainful employment > will resume next year in Spring. > > You will also get arried in the Guru-guru dasha. > Currentlyu you are in dasha chidra rahu-mangal and > guru-guru. Mangal has zero point in BAV in leo and > currently shani just transitted into leo. Guru is in > the 8th house. Mangal is 8th lord, with shani the 10th > lord shani. Mangal anter dasha started in March of > 2007. The stress at work may have increased after the > advent of this antara. > > Good luck. Recite Gayatri matra everyday if you can. > > Satish > --- enigmaoflife21 <enigmaoflife21 wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > I just lost my job a few days back and never seem to > > be sucessful in > > any venture. I was advised to keep away from > > business and even service > > does not really help. Tried to make a house and > > things did not seem to > > materialize, career is just side tracked to a > > tangent not in line with > > my education (engineer by profession) and marriage > > is still not in the > > cards. My major concern seems to be career and money > > both of which are > > unsatisfactor. I suppose I can live single for the > > rest of my life, I > > can live in remote places which might be a result of > > work. But I > > absolutely want to attain a high position in my > > career and definetly > > seeking financial security. I wonder if anyone will > > be kind enough of > > say weather I would find a decent job and make > > enough money in life to > > live a normal fullfilling life. As i said it does > > not seem to happy. > > > > Some events as required on my part > > > > 1. Completed education end of 2005 (engineering > > chemical) > > 2. Moved abroad to the west in may of 98 > > 3. worked with a consulting firm from july 2006 to > > aug 2007 > > > > details are > > August 6 1980, @ 00:04am (4 mintues right after > > midnite), bombay. I am > > told the acedent in my chart is aries with moon in > > second > > > > any assistance or help would be much appreciated > > since I am not really > > well versed with astrology and would like to seek > > some guidance during > > trouble times. > > > > regards > > Vish > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Travel. > http://travel./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Dear Harjeet, Thanks for giving a thought on my chart. A few questions since I decided to dwell into the system myself to see the technicalities. I am not well versed as much as many members of this fourm are nonetheless enjoy leaning and with more learning comes more doubts. 1. Agreed about the points and that saturn has only 1 point (based on the excel worksheet I downloaded) however I have read in the note by Krushna that a planet if it has less than 4 points does good for the house it resides in and does bad for the houses it aspects. Saturn being debiliated (by this system having less than 4 points) isn't that good since it in an upachaya house (bad in bad) also considering it has 1 point will it not do good for the house it is residing in which is the 6th house (job, service, etc) again as the notes mention? 2. I agree with the one 0 in 5th house and saturns transit into 5th house causing problems. 3. Current Antra of Mars, well mars has more infact way more points for 11th house than 12th house. So in theory there should be income (job) infact higher income than pervious antras since mars antra holds more points for 11th than 12th as mentioned. 4. Generally planets for H11 (in worksheet) are good or strong with the exception of jupiter. As I understand it antras of all these planets should provide income more so than expenses. As I see in the worksheet Moon,Mars,Mercy,Venus all have more points (total) than 12th house in the BAV (summary sheet) with saturn having the same points for both 11th and 12th. In theory when running the antra of all these 5 planets I should have been making more income than expenses.? 5. I agree with jupiter having low points for most of the houses and can expect to seek turbulance during jupiter antra. Would this also relate to jupiter Maha Dasa. Do the points and power of planets relate to maha dasa as well or just the antras? 6. A point I have mentioned in the other post. Even during the antra's of powerful income planets or 11th house signification. I had to take loan during my studies (studied from 1998 to 2005) and education was expensive and funded by student loans. I was in debt since the last 9 years (during which point I ran different antras). So how does all that fit into the picture. regards and would be looking foward to clearning these doubts and thanks much for taking the time to look into my chart. regards Vish , " harjeet bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Vish, > just want to try your chart. > try to read the lesson and get familiar with terms. > all the planets are more than 4 points except saturn... reducing the > status of the chart. > one zero in 5th house... > sav points in 11th house is less than 12th house... showing more expense.. > current antra of mars having low points for 6th and 10th house. > saturn going over house giving zero causing trouble. > points for sa+ju is less than 8. > daily points are less than 196. > have to be careful in next year sa+ju points drop to 5 points.(min 8 > required).around end of june next year mars also goes over leo the > house that gives zero points.. causing more problems. > besides next antra of jupiter have very low points for 6th house for > job and 11th house of income... and more for 10th house of effort and > 12th house of expense.. > antra of saturn after feb 2010 would give relief.. as points for > saturn for 11th house is more than previous antra but the points for > 11th and 12th house are same. > next antra of mercury is strong for 6,10,11 houses would give better > results around aug end 2012.. > regarding marriage venus is in adra nakshatra and more than 43 degree > away and having sight of saturn..and lord of 6th house in 4th house > which happens to be house D. besides zero in 5th house... but i am not > going in detail. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " enigmaoflife21 " > <enigmaoflife21@> wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > I just lost my job a few days back and never seem to be sucessful in > > any venture. I was advised to keep away from business and even service > > does not really help. Tried to make a house and things did not seem to > > materialize, career is just side tracked to a tangent not in line with > > my education (engineer by profession) and marriage is still not in the > > cards. My major concern seems to be career and money both of which are > > unsatisfactor. I suppose I can live single for the rest of my life, I > > can live in remote places which might be a result of work. But I > > absolutely want to attain a high position in my career and definetly > > seeking financial security. I wonder if anyone will be kind enough of > > say weather I would find a decent job and make enough money in life to > > live a normal fullfilling life. As i said it does not seem to happy. > > > > Some events as required on my part > > > > 1. Completed education end of 2005 (engineering chemical) > > 2. Moved abroad to the west in may of 98 > > 3. worked with a consulting firm from july 2006 to aug 2007 > > > > details are > > August 6 1980, @ 00:04am (4 mintues right after midnite), bombay. I am > > told the acedent in my chart is aries with moon in second > > > > any assistance or help would be much appreciated since I am not really > > well versed with astrology and would like to seek some guidance during > > trouble times. > > > > regards > > Vish > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Dear Vish, Desh, Kaal and Paatra are very important principle that you have also alluded to in your mail. Many North Americans, have a mortgage, so that can be considered as an investment and it’s a part of life sort of speaking. So when there are expenses then 12th house points might be more and say if u brought a house then 4th house points also might go up. If 11th is less than 12th, then during that time success and income might be more challenging especially if 12th is more than 11th. You also should in parallel see Sa and Ju points as well. If 8th points are more than you might get some help in terms of “inheritance” of some unearned wealth during that period. So there can be many things involved. The key to understand is that all 12 houses are acting together. Take a scenario, where 6th house points are good, so it means u might get student loan, then at same time dasha of 5th has good power in 5th, so You might get a degree so your expense might be going towards education. If Sa and Ju are also 8 or more then u might be more positive. Degree is Karak for authority, 5th is karak for 10th. So u must study all 12 houses and apply desh kaal paatra principal. It might be common in North America to get student loan, but that might not be the case in the Republic of Congo, Nepal and India, hypothetically speaking. In KAS we are studying astrology on proper scientific grounds and with concrete reasoning. You have mentioned that KAS is contra to Parasara system, but in fact that is not so. Don’t be in a haste to judge KAS and its depth, unless you yourself study it in detail. My 2 cents. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of enigmaoflife21 Wednesday August 22, 2007 4:44 PM Subject: Re: Just lost my job and money seems to elude me !! Help would be appreciated Dear Harjeet, Thanks for giving a thought on my chart. A few questions since I decided to dwell into the system myself to see the technicalities. I am not well versed as much as many members of this fourm are nonetheless enjoy leaning and with more learning comes more doubts. 1. Agreed about the points and that saturn has only 1 point (based on the excel worksheet I downloaded) however I have read in the note by Krushna that a planet if it has less than 4 points does good for the house it resides in and does bad for the houses it aspects. Saturn being debiliated (by this system having less than 4 points) isn't that good since it in an upachaya house (bad in bad) also considering it has 1 point will it not do good for the house it is residing in which is the 6th house (job, service, etc) again as the notes mention? 2. I agree with the one 0 in 5th house and saturns transit into 5th house causing problems. 3. Current Antra of Mars, well mars has more infact way more points for 11th house than 12th house. So in theory there should be income (job) infact higher income than pervious antras since mars antra holds more points for 11th than 12th as mentioned. 4. Generally planets for H11 (in worksheet) are good or strong with the exception of jupiter. As I understand it antras of all these planets should provide income more so than expenses. As I see in the worksheet Moon,Mars,Mercy,Venus all have more points (total) than 12th house in the BAV (summary sheet) with saturn having the same points for both 11th and 12th. In theory when running the antra of all these 5 planets I should have been making more income than expenses.? 5. I agree with jupiter having low points for most of the houses and can expect to seek turbulance during jupiter antra. Would this also relate to jupiter Maha Dasa. Do the points and power of planets relate to maha dasa as well or just the antras? 6. A point I have mentioned in the other post. Even during the antra's of powerful income planets or 11th house signification. I had to take loan during my studies (studied from 1998 to 2005) and education was expensive and funded by student loans. I was in debt since the last 9 years (during which point I ran different antras). So how does all that fit into the picture. regards and would be looking foward to clearning these doubts and thanks much for taking the time to look into my chart. regards Vish , " harjeet bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Vish, > just want to try your chart. > try to read the lesson and get familiar with terms. > all the planets are more than 4 points except saturn... reducing the > status of the chart. > one zero in 5th house... > sav points in 11th house is less than 12th house... showing more expense.. > current antra of mars having low points for 6th and 10th house. > saturn going over house giving zero causing trouble. > points for sa+ju is less than 8. > daily points are less than 196. > have to be careful in next year sa+ju points drop to 5 points.(min 8 > required).around end of june next year mars also goes over leo the > house that gives zero points.. causing more problems. > besides next antra of jupiter have very low points for 6th house for > job and 11th house of income... and more for 10th house of effort and > 12th house of expense.. > antra of saturn after feb 2010 would give relief.. as points for > saturn for 11th house is more than previous antra but the points for > 11th and 12th house are same. > next antra of mercury is strong for 6,10,11 houses would give better > results around aug end 2012.. > regarding marriage venus is in adra nakshatra and more than 43 degree > away and having sight of saturn..and lord of 6th house in 4th house > which happens to be house D. besides zero in 5th house... but i am not > going in detail. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " enigmaoflife21 " > <enigmaoflife21@> wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > I just lost my job a few days back and never seem to be sucessful in > > any venture. I was advised to keep away from business and even service > > does not really help. Tried to make a house and things did not seem to > > materialize, career is just side tracked to a tangent not in line with > > my education (engineer by profession) and marriage is still not in the > > cards. My major concern seems to be career and money both of which are > > unsatisfactor. I suppose I can live single for the rest of my life, I > > can live in remote places which might be a result of work. But I > > absolutely want to attain a high position in my career and definetly > > seeking financial security. I wonder if anyone will be kind enough of > > say weather I would find a decent job and make enough money in life to > > live a normal fullfilling life. As i said it does not seem to happy. > > > > Some events as required on my part > > > > 1. Completed education end of 2005 (engineering chemical) > > 2. Moved abroad to the west in may of 98 > > 3. worked with a consulting firm from july 2006 to aug 2007 > > > > details are > > August 6 1980, @ 00:04am (4 mintues right after midnite), bombay. I am > > told the acedent in my chart is aries with moon in second > > > > any assistance or help would be much appreciated since I am not really > > well versed with astrology and would like to seek some guidance during > > trouble times. > > > > regards > > Vish > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 With regards to your question on wealth during your student life, also check 2nd house. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of enigmaoflife21 Wednesday August 22, 2007 4:44 PM Re: Just lost my job and money seems to elude me !! Help would be appreciated Dear Harjeet, Thanks for giving a thought on my chart. A few questions since I decided to dwell into the system myself to see the technicalities. I am not well versed as much as many members of this fourm are nonetheless enjoy leaning and with more learning comes more doubts. 1. Agreed about the points and that saturn has only 1 point (based on the excel worksheet I downloaded) however I have read in the note by Krushna that a planet if it has less than 4 points does good for the house it resides in and does bad for the houses it aspects. Saturn being debiliated (by this system having less than 4 points) isn't that good since it in an upachaya house (bad in bad) also considering it has 1 point will it not do good for the house it is residing in which is the 6th house (job, service, etc) again as the notes mention? 2. I agree with the one 0 in 5th house and saturns transit into 5th house causing problems. 3. Current Antra of Mars, well mars has more infact way more points for 11th house than 12th house. So in theory there should be income (job) infact higher income than pervious antras since mars antra holds more points for 11th than 12th as mentioned. 4. Generally planets for H11 (in worksheet) are good or strong with the exception of jupiter. As I understand it antras of all these planets should provide income more so than expenses. As I see in the worksheet Moon,Mars,Mercy,Venus all have more points (total) than 12th house in the BAV (summary sheet) with saturn having the same points for both 11th and 12th. In theory when running the antra of all these 5 planets I should have been making more income than expenses.? 5. I agree with jupiter having low points for most of the houses and can expect to seek turbulance during jupiter antra. Would this also relate to jupiter Maha Dasa. Do the points and power of planets relate to maha dasa as well or just the antras? 6. A point I have mentioned in the other post. Even during the antra's of powerful income planets or 11th house signification. I had to take loan during my studies (studied from 1998 to 2005) and education was expensive and funded by student loans. I was in debt since the last 9 years (during which point I ran different antras). So how does all that fit into the picture. regards and would be looking foward to clearning these doubts and thanks much for taking the time to look into my chart. regards Vish , " harjeet bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Vish, > just want to try your chart. > try to read the lesson and get familiar with terms. > all the planets are more than 4 points except saturn... reducing the > status of the chart. > one zero in 5th house... > sav points in 11th house is less than 12th house... showing more expense.. > current antra of mars having low points for 6th and 10th house. > saturn going over house giving zero causing trouble. > points for sa+ju is less than 8. > daily points are less than 196. > have to be careful in next year sa+ju points drop to 5 points.(min 8 > required).around end of june next year mars also goes over leo the > house that gives zero points.. causing more problems. > besides next antra of jupiter have very low points for 6th house for > job and 11th house of income... and more for 10th house of effort and > 12th house of expense.. > antra of saturn after feb 2010 would give relief.. as points for > saturn for 11th house is more than previous antra but the points for > 11th and 12th house are same. > next antra of mercury is strong for 6,10,11 houses would give better > results around aug end 2012.. > regarding marriage venus is in adra nakshatra and more than 43 degree > away and having sight of saturn..and lord of 6th house in 4th house > which happens to be house D. besides zero in 5th house... but i am not > going in detail. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " enigmaoflife21 " > <enigmaoflife21@> wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > I just lost my job a few days back and never seem to be sucessful in > > any venture. I was advised to keep away from business and even service > > does not really help. Tried to make a house and things did not seem to > > materialize, career is just side tracked to a tangent not in line with > > my education (engineer by profession) and marriage is still not in the > > cards. My major concern seems to be career and money both of which are > > unsatisfactor. I suppose I can live single for the rest of my life, I > > can live in remote places which might be a result of work. But I > > absolutely want to attain a high position in my career and definetly > > seeking financial security. I wonder if anyone will be kind enough of > > say weather I would find a decent job and make enough money in life to > > live a normal fullfilling life. As i said it does not seem to happy. > > > > Some events as required on my part > > > > 1. Completed education end of 2005 (engineering chemical) > > 2. Moved abroad to the west in may of 98 > > 3. worked with a consulting firm from july 2006 to aug 2007 > > > > details are > > August 6 1980, @ 00:04am (4 mintues right after midnite), bombay. I am > > told the acedent in my chart is aries with moon in second > > > > any assistance or help would be much appreciated since I am not really > > well versed with astrology and would like to seek some guidance during > > trouble times. > > > > regards > > Vish > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Dear Vish,its good to see that you did a very good attempt to look at the system and worksheet yourself.my comments from as little as i know in caps below : , "enigmaoflife21" <enigmaoflife21 wrote:>> Dear Harjeet, > Thanks for giving a thought on my chart. A few questions since I> decided to dwell into the system myself to see the technicalities. I> am not well versed as much as many members of this fourm are> nonetheless enjoy leaning and with more learning comes more doubts. > > 1. Agreed about the points and that saturn has only 1 point (based on> the excel worksheet I downloaded) however I have read in the note by> Krushna that a planet if it has less than 4 points does good for the> house it resides in and does bad for the houses it aspects. Saturn> being debiliated (by this system having less than 4 points) isn't that> good since it in an upachaya house (bad in bad) also considering it> has 1 point will it not do good for the house it is residing in which> is the 6th house (job, service, etc) again as the notes mention? HERE SATURN ALONE HAS POINTS LESS THAN 4. SO THATS GOOD.REST ALL THE PLANETS ARE HAVING MORE THAN 4 POINTS. .. WHICH SOMEWAY POSSES A PROBLEM FOR THE 4TH HOUSE FROM THEM.. IT MIGHT BE GIVEN IN THE LESSON SOMEWHERE... SO THATS WHY BECAUSE OF PLANETS HAVING MORE THAN 4 POINTS THE STATUS OF THE CHART IS REDUCED.ALSO IF A PLANET IS HAVING MORE THAN 4 POINTS ITS ONLY GOOD FOR THE HOUSE ITS SITUATED IN BUT BAD FOR THE HOUSE IT ASPECTS... SO ALWAYS JUPITER, MARS AND SATURN WITH LESS THAN 4 POINTS ARE GOOD AS IT ASPECTS 3 HOUSES EACH.> > 2. I agree with the one 0 in 5th house and saturns transit into 5th> house causing problems. > > 3. Current Antra of Mars, well mars has more infact way more points> for 11th house than 12th house. So in theory there should be income> (job) infact higher income than pervious antras since mars antra holds> more points for 11th than 12th as mentioned. > POINTS FOR 6TH AND 10TH HOUSE ARE LOW IN MARS ANTRA. SO PROBLEM WOULD BE FOR JOB AND LOSS OF AUTHORITY.. WITH JOB THERE IS NO INCOME.. 6TH HOUSE IS THE KARAK STHAN FOR 11TH HOUSE. FOR ALL MATTERS IF KARAK IS WEAK THE RESULT FOR THAT HOUSE IS BAD.E.G. 12TH HOUSE IS THE KARAK OF 5TH HOUSE... WITHOUT 12TH HOUSE MATTERS HAPPENING CHILD CANT BE BORN.(5TH HOUSE).I HOPE U GET MY POINT.> 4. Generally planets for H11 (in worksheet) are good or strong with> the exception of jupiter. As I understand it antras of all these> planets should provide income more so than expenses. As I see in the> worksheet Moon,Mars,Mercy,Venus all have more points (total) than 12th> house in the BAV (summary sheet) with saturn having the same points> for both 11th and 12th. In theory when running the antra of all these> 5 planets I should have been making more income than expenses.?> ALSO CHECK YOUR RASI CHART AND SEE THE SAV POINTS FOR 11TH AND 12TH HOUSE> 5. I agree with jupiter having low points for most of the houses and> can expect to seek turbulance during jupiter antra. Would this also> relate to jupiter Maha Dasa. Do the points and power of planets relate> to maha dasa as well or just the antras? > > 6. A point I have mentioned in the other post. Even during the antra's> of powerful income planets or 11th house signification. I had to take> loan during my studies (studied from 1998 to 2005) and education was> expensive and funded by student loans. I was in debt since the last 9> years (during which point I ran different antras). So how does all> that fit into the picture. I GUESS ASHJI ALREADY ANSWERED THIS POINT. BESIDES AGAIN CHECK THE SAV POINTS IN RASI CHART FOR 11TH AND 12TH HOUSE... I DID NOT CHECK YOU CHART AGAIN BUT YOU YOURSELF CHECK THE SAME FROM MOON AND SUN TOO...I MAY BE WRONG HERE BUT YOU CAN ALSO CHECK FOR LOANS FROM HOUSE 6TH.. AND DEBTS MAY BE 8TH HOUSE TOO. 12TH HOUSES FOR EXPENSE AND LOSS.THANKS/REGARDSHARJEET> > regards and would be looking foward to clearning these doubts and> thanks much for taking the time to look into my chart. > > regards> Vish> > , "harjeet bakshi"> harjeet_bakshi@ wrote:> >> > Dear Vish,> > just want to try your chart.> > try to read the lesson and get familiar with terms.> > all the planets are more than 4 points except saturn... reducing the> > status of the chart.> > one zero in 5th house...> > sav points in 11th house is less than 12th house... showing more> expense..> > current antra of mars having low points for 6th and 10th house.> > saturn going over house giving zero causing trouble.> > points for sa+ju is less than 8.> > daily points are less than 196.> > have to be careful in next year sa+ju points drop to 5 points.(min 8> > required).around end of june next year mars also goes over leo the> > house that gives zero points.. causing more problems.> > besides next antra of jupiter have very low points for 6th house for> > job and 11th house of income... and more for 10th house of effort and> > 12th house of expense..> > antra of saturn after feb 2010 would give relief.. as points for> > saturn for 11th house is more than previous antra but the points for> > 11th and 12th house are same.> > next antra of mercury is strong for 6,10,11 houses would give better> > results around aug end 2012..> > regarding marriage venus is in adra nakshatra and more than 43 degree> > away and having sight of saturn..and lord of 6th house in 4th house> > which happens to be house D. besides zero in 5th house... but i am not> > going in detail.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > > > , "enigmaoflife21"> > <enigmaoflife21@> wrote:> > >> > > Hello everyone, > > > I just lost my job a few days back and never seem to be sucessful in> > > any venture. I was advised to keep away from business and even service> > > does not really help. Tried to make a house and things did not seem to> > > materialize, career is just side tracked to a tangent not in line with> > > my education (engineer by profession) and marriage is still not in the> > > cards. My major concern seems to be career and money both of which are> > > unsatisfactor. I suppose I can live single for the rest of my life, I> > > can live in remote places which might be a result of work. But I> > > absolutely want to attain a high position in my career and definetly> > > seeking financial security. I wonder if anyone will be kind enough of> > > say weather I would find a decent job and make enough money in life to> > > live a normal fullfilling life. As i said it does not seem to happy. > > > > > > Some events as required on my part > > > > > > 1. Completed education end of 2005 (engineering chemical) > > > 2. Moved abroad to the west in may of 98 > > > 3. worked with a consulting firm from july 2006 to aug 2007 > > > > > > details are > > > August 6 1980, @ 00:04am (4 mintues right after midnite), bombay. I am> > > told the acedent in my chart is aries with moon in second > > > > > > any assistance or help would be much appreciated since I am not really> > > well versed with astrology and would like to seek some guidance during> > > trouble times. > > > > > > regards> > > Vish> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Dear Ash, I enjoy the pointers given by you and at the onset let me clarify I am not here to criticize or judge one system over an other. I am bringing out my doubts (which are a resultant of learning) hence the concept that do not learn about God but know, feel or have faith in Him. But with science thats not the case and I feel we freely can ask questions. Again a few of my thoughts based on your emails. I am not proficient as you or the other members so kindly disregard points that you might feel are off track. 1. Every system weather prashara or KP or jaimin or this system has an inherent assumption of seeing the chart as a whole and something either fits a description or there are pointers which might be turned around or fine tune to make it fit the facts. Please do not misunderstand me but what I am trying to say is, as an engineer if I calibrate a caliper to measure something based on a calibration curve. Then rest assured no matter how the other things change the standard to which it is calibrated will never change. In analogy say with the point system if 11th house has less points than 12th (then making income for such a person would be challanging as you mentiond) however I am sure you have come across many charts where 11th house might have lower points than 12th and people are immesenly rich due to their gains from other sources. Sure at this stage the skeptic can say that we need to look at the chart as a whole but this would miss out standardization over the vast realm and would provide a 50-50 success rate or perhaps lower or higher depending on guess work. Any keeping that to a side which would end up turning into a philosophical dicussion away from the system. I am wondering if you can say anything positive that might happen to me during the course of my life or weather according to your system there is any positive influence in the chart showing property and finanical security. Thats all I need to know and would appreciate admits the confusion that has been going around in my life. As a simple pointer I know of a person in close family details 12 November 1951 7:00pm bombay His 11th house points are much higher than 12th. But the person has always been in debt ever since he was 29 or 30 years. I am sure one can point the chart to a different direction. But the addictum of 11th over 12th itself does not substaniate a conclusion that a person will have easy or hard growth. I can provide further charts if you are willing to have an open dicussion without hard thoughts but for people to learn. Best Regards and cheers Vish , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Vish, > > > > Desh, Kaal and Paatra are very important principle that you have also > alluded to in your mail. > > > > Many North Americans, have a mortgage, so that can be considered as an > investment and it's a part of life sort of speaking. > > > > So when there are expenses then 12th house points might be more and say if u > brought a house then 4th house points also might go up. > > > > If 11th is less than 12th, then during that time success and income might be > more challenging especially if 12th is more than 11th. > > > > You also should in parallel see Sa and Ju points as well. > > > > If 8th points are more than you might get some help in terms of > " inheritance " of some unearned wealth during that period. > > > > So there can be many things involved. The key to understand is that all 12 > houses are acting together. > > > > Take a scenario, where 6th house points are good, so it means u might get > student loan, then at same time dasha of 5th has good power in 5th, so > > You might get a degree so your expense might be going towards education. If > Sa and Ju are also 8 or more then u might be more positive. > > > > Degree is Karak for authority, 5th is karak for 10th. > > > > So u must study all 12 houses and apply desh kaal paatra principal. It > might be common in North America to get student loan, but that might not be > the case in the Republic of Congo, Nepal and India, hypothetically speaking. > > > > In KAS we are studying astrology on proper scientific grounds and with > concrete reasoning. > > > > You have mentioned that KAS is contra to Parasara system, but in fact that > is not so. Don't be in a haste to judge KAS and its depth, unless you > yourself study it in detail. > > > > My 2 cents. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of > enigmaoflife21 > Wednesday August 22, 2007 4:44 PM > > Re: Just lost my job and money seems to > elude me !! Help would be appreciated > > > > Dear Harjeet, > Thanks for giving a thought on my chart. A few questions since I > decided to dwell into the system myself to see the technicalities. I > am not well versed as much as many members of this fourm are > nonetheless enjoy leaning and with more learning comes more doubts. > > 1. Agreed about the points and that saturn has only 1 point (based on > the excel worksheet I downloaded) however I have read in the note by > Krushna that a planet if it has less than 4 points does good for the > house it resides in and does bad for the houses it aspects. Saturn > being debiliated (by this system having less than 4 points) isn't that > good since it in an upachaya house (bad in bad) also considering it > has 1 point will it not do good for the house it is residing in which > is the 6th house (job, service, etc) again as the notes mention? > > 2. I agree with the one 0 in 5th house and saturns transit into 5th > house causing problems. > > 3. Current Antra of Mars, well mars has more infact way more points > for 11th house than 12th house. So in theory there should be income > (job) infact higher income than pervious antras since mars antra holds > more points for 11th than 12th as mentioned. > > 4. Generally planets for H11 (in worksheet) are good or strong with > the exception of jupiter. As I understand it antras of all these > planets should provide income more so than expenses. As I see in the > worksheet Moon,Mars,Mercy,Venus all have more points (total) than 12th > house in the BAV (summary sheet) with saturn having the same points > for both 11th and 12th. In theory when running the antra of all these > 5 planets I should have been making more income than expenses.? > > 5. I agree with jupiter having low points for most of the houses and > can expect to seek turbulance during jupiter antra. Would this also > relate to jupiter Maha Dasa. Do the points and power of planets relate > to maha dasa as well or just the antras? > > 6. A point I have mentioned in the other post. Even during the antra's > of powerful income planets or 11th house signification. I had to take > loan during my studies (studied from 1998 to 2005) and education was > expensive and funded by student loans. I was in debt since the last 9 > years (during which point I ran different antras). So how does all > that fit into the picture. > > regards and would be looking foward to clearning these doubts and > thanks much for taking the time to look into my chart. > > regards > Vish > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vish, > > just want to try your chart. > > try to read the lesson and get familiar with terms. > > all the planets are more than 4 points except saturn... reducing the > > status of the chart. > > one zero in 5th house... > > sav points in 11th house is less than 12th house... showing more > expense.. > > current antra of mars having low points for 6th and 10th house. > > saturn going over house giving zero causing trouble. > > points for sa+ju is less than 8. > > daily points are less than 196. > > have to be careful in next year sa+ju points drop to 5 points.(min 8 > > required).around end of june next year mars also goes over leo the > > house that gives zero points.. causing more problems. > > besides next antra of jupiter have very low points for 6th house for > > job and 11th house of income... and more for 10th house of effort and > > 12th house of expense.. > > antra of saturn after feb 2010 would give relief.. as points for > > saturn for 11th house is more than previous antra but the points for > > 11th and 12th house are same. > > next antra of mercury is strong for 6,10,11 houses would give better > > results around aug end 2012.. > > regarding marriage venus is in adra nakshatra and more than 43 degree > > away and having sight of saturn..and lord of 6th house in 4th house > > which happens to be house D. besides zero in 5th house... but i am not > > going in detail. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " enigmaoflife21 " > > <enigmaoflife21@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > I just lost my job a few days back and never seem to be sucessful in > > > any venture. I was advised to keep away from business and even service > > > does not really help. Tried to make a house and things did not seem to > > > materialize, career is just side tracked to a tangent not in line with > > > my education (engineer by profession) and marriage is still not in the > > > cards. My major concern seems to be career and money both of which are > > > unsatisfactor. I suppose I can live single for the rest of my life, I > > > can live in remote places which might be a result of work. But I > > > absolutely want to attain a high position in my career and definetly > > > seeking financial security. I wonder if anyone will be kind enough of > > > say weather I would find a decent job and make enough money in life to > > > live a normal fullfilling life. As i said it does not seem to happy. > > > > > > Some events as required on my part > > > > > > 1. Completed education end of 2005 (engineering chemical) > > > 2. Moved abroad to the west in may of 98 > > > 3. worked with a consulting firm from july 2006 to aug 2007 > > > > > > details are > > > August 6 1980, @ 00:04am (4 mintues right after midnite), bombay. I am > > > told the acedent in my chart is aries with moon in second > > > > > > any assistance or help would be much appreciated since I am not really > > > well versed with astrology and would like to seek some guidance during > > > trouble times. > > > > > > regards > > > Vish > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Dear Vish, On the outset, let me first say that it’s not my job to convince you of KAS or its working. I am sorry that effort will have to be put by you and not by me because I am convinced of KAS’s working and that for that I have spent years and solved thousands of charts. Krushnaji has given us lessons and has answered so many questions personally by veterans of jyotish who have spent years learning so many systems. The lessons are given, and the archive’s are a treasure for the sincere learners. Rest is upto you. Good luck. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of enigmaoflife21 Wednesday August 22, 2007 5:58 PM Subject: Re: Just lost my job and money seems to elude me !! Help would be appreciated Dear Ash, I enjoy the pointers given by you and at the onset let me clarify I am not here to criticize or judge one system over an other. I am bringing out my doubts (which are a resultant of learning) hence the concept that do not learn about God but know, feel or have faith in Him. But with science thats not the case and I feel we freely can ask questions. Again a few of my thoughts based on your emails. I am not proficient as you or the other members so kindly disregard points that you might feel are off track. 1. Every system weather prashara or KP or jaimin or this system has an inherent assumption of seeing the chart as a whole and something either fits a description or there are pointers which might be turned around or fine tune to make it fit the facts. Please do not misunderstand me but what I am trying to say is, as an engineer if I calibrate a caliper to measure something based on a calibration curve. Then rest assured no matter how the other things change the standard to which it is calibrated will never change. In analogy say with the point system if 11th house has less points than 12th (then making income for such a person would be challanging as you mentiond) however I am sure you have come across many charts where 11th house might have lower points than 12th and people are immesenly rich due to their gains from other sources. Sure at this stage the skeptic can say that we need to look at the chart as a whole but this would miss out standardization over the vast realm and would provide a 50-50 success rate or perhaps lower or higher depending on guess work. Any keeping that to a side which would end up turning into a philosophical dicussion away from the system. I am wondering if you can say anything positive that might happen to me during the course of my life or weather according to your system there is any positive influence in the chart showing property and finanical security. Thats all I need to know and would appreciate admits the confusion that has been going around in my life. As a simple pointer I know of a person in close family details 12 November 1951 7:00pm bombay His 11th house points are much higher than 12th. But the person has always been in debt ever since he was 29 or 30 years. I am sure one can point the chart to a different direction. But the addictum of 11th over 12th itself does not substaniate a conclusion that a person will have easy or hard growth. I can provide further charts if you are willing to have an open dicussion without hard thoughts but for people to learn. Best Regards and cheers Vish , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Vish, > > > > Desh, Kaal and Paatra are very important principle that you have also > alluded to in your mail. > > > > Many North Americans, have a mortgage, so that can be considered as an > investment and it's a part of life sort of speaking. > > > > So when there are expenses then 12th house points might be more and say if u > brought a house then 4th house points also might go up. > > > > If 11th is less than 12th, then during that time success and income might be > more challenging especially if 12th is more than 11th. > > > > You also should in parallel see Sa and Ju points as well. > > > > If 8th points are more than you might get some help in terms of > " inheritance " of some unearned wealth during that period. > > > > So there can be many things involved. The key to understand is that all 12 > houses are acting together. > > > > Take a scenario, where 6th house points are good, so it means u might get > student loan, then at same time dasha of 5th has good power in 5th, so > > You might get a degree so your expense might be going towards education. If > Sa and Ju are also 8 or more then u might be more positive. > > > > Degree is Karak for authority, 5th is karak for 10th. > > > > So u must study all 12 houses and apply desh kaal paatra principal. It > might be common in North America to get student loan, but that might not be > the case in the Republic of Congo, Nepal and India, hypothetically speaking. > > > > In KAS we are studying astrology on proper scientific grounds and with > concrete reasoning. > > > > You have mentioned that KAS is contra to Parasara system, but in fact that > is not so. Don't be in a haste to judge KAS and its depth, unless you > yourself study it in detail. > > > > My 2 cents. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of > enigmaoflife21 > Wednesday August 22, 2007 4:44 PM > > Re: Just lost my job and money seems to > elude me !! Help would be appreciated > > > > Dear Harjeet, > Thanks for giving a thought on my chart. A few questions since I > decided to dwell into the system myself to see the technicalities. I > am not well versed as much as many members of this fourm are > nonetheless enjoy leaning and with more learning comes more doubts. > > 1. Agreed about the points and that saturn has only 1 point (based on > the excel worksheet I downloaded) however I have read in the note by > Krushna that a planet if it has less than 4 points does good for the > house it resides in and does bad for the houses it aspects. Saturn > being debiliated (by this system having less than 4 points) isn't that > good since it in an upachaya house (bad in bad) also considering it > has 1 point will it not do good for the house it is residing in which > is the 6th house (job, service, etc) again as the notes mention? > > 2. I agree with the one 0 in 5th house and saturns transit into 5th > house causing problems. > > 3. Current Antra of Mars, well mars has more infact way more points > for 11th house than 12th house. So in theory there should be income > (job) infact higher income than pervious antras since mars antra holds > more points for 11th than 12th as mentioned. > > 4. Generally planets for H11 (in worksheet) are good or strong with > the exception of jupiter. As I understand it antras of all these > planets should provide income more so than expenses. As I see in the > worksheet Moon,Mars,Mercy,Venus all have more points (total) than 12th > house in the BAV (summary sheet) with saturn having the same points > for both 11th and 12th. In theory when running the antra of all these > 5 planets I should have been making more income than expenses.? > > 5. I agree with jupiter having low points for most of the houses and > can expect to seek turbulance during jupiter antra. Would this also > relate to jupiter Maha Dasa. Do the points and power of planets relate > to maha dasa as well or just the antras? > > 6. A point I have mentioned in the other post. Even during the antra's > of powerful income planets or 11th house signification. I had to take > loan during my studies (studied from 1998 to 2005) and education was > expensive and funded by student loans. I was in debt since the last 9 > years (during which point I ran different antras). So how does all > that fit into the picture. > > regards and would be looking foward to clearning these doubts and > thanks much for taking the time to look into my chart. > > regards > Vish > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vish, > > just want to try your chart. > > try to read the lesson and get familiar with terms. > > all the planets are more than 4 points except saturn... reducing the > > status of the chart. > > one zero in 5th house... > > sav points in 11th house is less than 12th house... showing more > expense.. > > current antra of mars having low points for 6th and 10th house. > > saturn going over house giving zero causing trouble. > > points for sa+ju is less than 8. > > daily points are less than 196. > > have to be careful in next year sa+ju points drop to 5 points.(min 8 > > required).around end of june next year mars also goes over leo the > > house that gives zero points.. causing more problems. > > besides next antra of jupiter have very low points for 6th house for > > job and 11th house of income... and more for 10th house of effort and > > 12th house of expense.. > > antra of saturn after feb 2010 would give relief.. as points for > > saturn for 11th house is more than previous antra but the points for > > 11th and 12th house are same. > > next antra of mercury is strong for 6,10,11 houses would give better > > results around aug end 2012.. > > regarding marriage venus is in adra nakshatra and more than 43 degree > > away and having sight of saturn..and lord of 6th house in 4th house > > which happens to be house D. besides zero in 5th house... but i am not > > going in detail. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " enigmaoflife21 " > > <enigmaoflife21@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > I just lost my job a few days back and never seem to be sucessful in > > > any venture. I was advised to keep away from business and even service > > > does not really help. Tried to make a house and things did not seem to > > > materialize, career is just side tracked to a tangent not in line with > > > my education (engineer by profession) and marriage is still not in the > > > cards. My major concern seems to be career and money both of which are > > > unsatisfactor. I suppose I can live single for the rest of my life, I > > > can live in remote places which might be a result of work. But I > > > absolutely want to attain a high position in my career and definetly > > > seeking financial security. I wonder if anyone will be kind enough of > > > say weather I would find a decent job and make enough money in life to > > > live a normal fullfilling life. As i said it does not seem to happy. > > > > > > Some events as required on my part > > > > > > 1. Completed education end of 2005 (engineering chemical) > > > 2. Moved abroad to the west in may of 98 > > > 3. worked with a consulting firm from july 2006 to aug 2007 > > > > > > details are > > > August 6 1980, @ 00:04am (4 mintues right after midnite), bombay. I am > > > told the acedent in my chart is aries with moon in second > > > > > > any assistance or help would be much appreciated since I am not really > > > well versed with astrology and would like to seek some guidance during > > > trouble times. > > > > > > regards > > > Vish > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Dear Vish, Just go thru the message #2908,2903 and 2912 ,Guru krushnaji described this.So, you will get all your answers. Regards Anup enigmaoflife21 <enigmaoflife21 wrote: Dear Ash, I enjoy the pointers given by you and at the onset let me clarify I amnot here to criticize or judge one system over an other. I am bringingout my doubts (which are a resultant of learning) hence the conceptthat do not learn about God but know, feel or have faith in Him. Butwith science thats not the case and I feel we freely can ask questions. Again a few of my thoughts based on your emails. I am not proficientas you or the other members so kindly disregard points that you mightfeel are off track. 1. Every system weather prashara or KP or jaimin or this system has aninherent assumption of seeing the chart as a whole and somethingeither fits a description or there are pointers which might be turnedaround or fine tune to make it fit the facts. Please do notmisunderstand me but what I am trying to say is, as an engineer if Icalibrate a caliper to measure something based on a calibration curve.Then rest assured no matter how the other things change the standardto which it is calibrated will never change. In analogy say with thepoint system if 11th house has less points than 12th (then makingincome for such a person would be challanging as you mentiond) howeverI am sure you have come across many charts where 11th house might havelower points than 12th and people are immesenly rich due to theirgains from other sources. Sure at this stage the skeptic can say thatwe need to look at the chart as a whole but this would miss outstandardization over the vast realm and would provide a 50-50 successrate or perhaps lower or higher depending on guess work. Any keeping that to a side which would end up turning into aphilosophical dicussion away from the system. I am wondering if youcan say anything positive that might happen to me during the course ofmy life or weather according to your system there is any positiveinfluence in the chart showing property and finanical security. Thatsall I need to know and would appreciate admits the confusion that hasbeen going around in my life. As a simple pointer I know of a person in close family details 12 November 19517:00pm bombay His 11th house points are much higher than 12th. But the person hasalways been in debt ever since he was 29 or 30 years. I am sure onecan point the chart to a different direction. But the addictum of 11thover 12th itself does not substaniate a conclusion that a person willhave easy or hard growth. I can provide further charts if you arewilling to have an open dicussion without hard thoughts but for peopleto learn. Best Regards and cheers Vish , "Ash" <kas wrote:>> Dear Vish,> > > > Desh, Kaal and Paatra are very important principle that you have also> alluded to in your mail.> > > > Many North Americans, have a mortgage, so that can be considered as an> investment and it's a part of life sort of speaking.> > > > So when there are expenses then 12th house points might be more andsay if u> brought a house then 4th house points also might go up.> > > > If 11th is less than 12th, then during that time success and incomemight be> more challenging especially if 12th is more than 11th. > > > > You also should in parallel see Sa and Ju points as well.> > > > If 8th points are more than you might get some help in terms of> "inheritance" of some unearned wealth during that period.> > > > So there can be many things involved. The key to understand isthat all 12> houses are acting together.> > > > Take a scenario, where 6th house points are good, so it means umight get> student loan, then at same time dasha of 5th has good power in 5th, so > > You might get a degree so your expense might be going towardseducation. If> Sa and Ju are also 8 or more then u might be more positive.> > > > Degree is Karak for authority, 5th is karak for 10th. > > > > So u must study all 12 houses and apply desh kaal paatra principal. It> might be common in North America to get student loan, but that mightnot be> the case in the Republic of Congo, Nepal and India, hypotheticallyspeaking.> > > > In KAS we are studying astrology on proper scientific grounds and with> concrete reasoning.> > > > You have mentioned that KAS is contra to Parasara system, but infact that> is not so. Don't be in a haste to judge KAS and its depth, unless you> yourself study it in detail.> > > > My 2 cents.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of> enigmaoflife21> Wednesday August 22, 2007 4:44 PM> > Re: Just lost my job and moneyseems to> elude me !! Help would be appreciated> > > > Dear Harjeet, > Thanks for giving a thought on my chart. A few questions since I> decided to dwell into the system myself to see the technicalities. I> am not well versed as much as many members of this fourm are> nonetheless enjoy leaning and with more learning comes more doubts. > > 1. Agreed about the points and that saturn has only 1 point (based on> the excel worksheet I downloaded) however I have read in the note by> Krushna that a planet if it has less than 4 points does good for the> house it resides in and does bad for the houses it aspects. Saturn> being debiliated (by this system having less than 4 points) isn't that> good since it in an upachaya house (bad in bad) also considering it> has 1 point will it not do good for the house it is residing in which> is the 6th house (job, service, etc) again as the notes mention? > > 2. I agree with the one 0 in 5th house and saturns transit into 5th> house causing problems. > > 3. Current Antra of Mars, well mars has more infact way more points> for 11th house than 12th house. So in theory there should be income> (job) infact higher income than pervious antras since mars antra holds> more points for 11th than 12th as mentioned. > > 4. Generally planets for H11 (in worksheet) are good or strong with> the exception of jupiter. As I understand it antras of all these> planets should provide income more so than expenses. As I see in the> worksheet Moon,Mars,Mercy,Venus all have more points (total) than 12th> house in the BAV (summary sheet) with saturn having the same points> for both 11th and 12th. In theory when running the antra of all these> 5 planets I should have been making more income than expenses.?> > 5. I agree with jupiter having low points for most of the houses and> can expect to seek turbulance during jupiter antra. Would this also> relate to jupiter Maha Dasa. Do the points and power of planets relate> to maha dasa as well or just the antras? > > 6. A point I have mentioned in the other post. Even during the antra's> of powerful income planets or 11th house signification. I had to take> loan during my studies (studied from 1998 to 2005) and education was> expensive and funded by student loans. I was in debt since the last 9> years (during which point I ran different antras). So how does all> that fit into the picture. > > regards and would be looking foward to clearning these doubts and> thanks much for taking the time to look into my chart. > > regards> Vish> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> "harjeet bakshi"> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> >> > Dear Vish,> > just want to try your chart.> > try to read the lesson and get familiar with terms.> > all the planets are more than 4 points except saturn... reducing the> > status of the chart.> > one zero in 5th house...> > sav points in 11th house is less than 12th house... showing more> expense..> > current antra of mars having low points for 6th and 10th house.> > saturn going over house giving zero causing trouble.> > points for sa+ju is less than 8.> > daily points are less than 196.> > have to be careful in next year sa+ju points drop to 5 points.(min 8> > required).around end of june next year mars also goes over leo the> > house that gives zero points.. causing more problems.> > besides next antra of jupiter have very low points for 6th house for> > job and 11th house of income... and more for 10th house of effort and> > 12th house of expense..> > antra of saturn after feb 2010 would give relief.. as points for> > saturn for 11th house is more than previous antra but the points for> > 11th and 12th house are same.> > next antra of mercury is strong for 6,10,11 houses would give better> > results around aug end 2012..> > regarding marriage venus is in adra nakshatra and more than 43 degree> > away and having sight of saturn..and lord of 6th house in 4th house> > which happens to be house D. besides zero in 5th house... but i am not> > going in detail.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> "enigmaoflife21"> > <enigmaoflife21@> wrote:> > >> > > Hello everyone, > > > I just lost my job a few days back and never seem to be sucessful in> > > any venture. I was advised to keep away from business and evenservice> > > does not really help. Tried to make a house and things did notseem to> > > materialize, career is just side tracked to a tangent not inline with> > > my education (engineer by profession) and marriage is still notin the> > > cards. My major concern seems to be career and money both ofwhich are> > > unsatisfactor. I suppose I can live single for the rest of mylife, I> > > can live in remote places which might be a result of work. But I> > > absolutely want to attain a high position in my career and definetly> > > seeking financial security. I wonder if anyone will be kindenough of> > > say weather I would find a decent job and make enough money inlife to> > > live a normal fullfilling life. As i said it does not seem tohappy. > > > > > > Some events as required on my part > > > > > > 1. Completed education end of 2005 (engineering chemical) > > > 2. Moved abroad to the west in may of 98 > > > 3. worked with a consulting firm from july 2006 to aug 2007 > > > > > > details are > > > August 6 1980, @ 00:04am (4 mintues right after midnite),bombay. I am> > > told the acedent in my chart is aries with moon in second > > > > > > any assistance or help would be much appreciated since I am notreally> > > well versed with astrology and would like to seek some guidanceduring> > > trouble times. > > > > > > regards> > > Vish> > >> >> Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Dear Vish, Also go thru message #2901 in archives. Regards Anup enigmaoflife21 <enigmaoflife21 wrote: Dear Ash, I enjoy the pointers given by you and at the onset let me clarify I amnot here to criticize or judge one system over an other. I am bringingout my doubts (which are a resultant of learning) hence the conceptthat do not learn about God but know, feel or have faith in Him. Butwith science thats not the case and I feel we freely can ask questions. Again a few of my thoughts based on your emails. I am not proficientas you or the other members so kindly disregard points that you mightfeel are off track. 1. Every system weather prashara or KP or jaimin or this system has aninherent assumption of seeing the chart as a whole and somethingeither fits a description or there are pointers which might be turnedaround or fine tune to make it fit the facts. Please do notmisunderstand me but what I am trying to say is, as an engineer if Icalibrate a caliper to measure something based on a calibration curve.Then rest assured no matter how the other things change the standardto which it is calibrated will never change. In analogy say with thepoint system if 11th house has less points than 12th (then makingincome for such a person would be challanging as you mentiond) howeverI am sure you have come across many charts where 11th house might havelower points than 12th and people are immesenly rich due to theirgains from other sources. Sure at this stage the skeptic can say thatwe need to look at the chart as a whole but this would miss outstandardization over the vast realm and would provide a 50-50 successrate or perhaps lower or higher depending on guess work. Any keeping that to a side which would end up turning into aphilosophical dicussion away from the system. I am wondering if youcan say anything positive that might happen to me during the course ofmy life or weather according to your system there is any positiveinfluence in the chart showing property and finanical security. Thatsall I need to know and would appreciate admits the confusion that hasbeen going around in my life. As a simple pointer I know of a person in close family details 12 November 19517:00pm bombay His 11th house points are much higher than 12th. But the person hasalways been in debt ever since he was 29 or 30 years. I am sure onecan point the chart to a different direction. But the addictum of 11thover 12th itself does not substaniate a conclusion that a person willhave easy or hard growth. I can provide further charts if you arewilling to have an open dicussion without hard thoughts but for peopleto learn. Best Regards and cheers Vish , "Ash" <kas wrote:>> Dear Vish,> > > > Desh, Kaal and Paatra are very important principle that you have also> alluded to in your mail.> > > > Many North Americans, have a mortgage, so that can be considered as an> investment and it's a part of life sort of speaking.> > > > So when there are expenses then 12th house points might be more andsay if u> brought a house then 4th house points also might go up.> > > > If 11th is less than 12th, then during that time success and incomemight be> more challenging especially if 12th is more than 11th. > > > > You also should in parallel see Sa and Ju points as well.> > > > If 8th points are more than you might get some help in terms of> "inheritance" of some unearned wealth during that period.> > > > So there can be many things involved. The key to understand isthat all 12> houses are acting together.> > > > Take a scenario, where 6th house points are good, so it means umight get> student loan, then at same time dasha of 5th has good power in 5th, so > > You might get a degree so your expense might be going towardseducation. If> Sa and Ju are also 8 or more then u might be more positive.> > > > Degree is Karak for authority, 5th is karak for 10th. > > > > So u must study all 12 houses and apply desh kaal paatra principal. It> might be common in North America to get student loan, but that mightnot be> the case in the Republic of Congo, Nepal and India, hypotheticallyspeaking.> > > > In KAS we are studying astrology on proper scientific grounds and with> concrete reasoning.> > > > You have mentioned that KAS is contra to Parasara system, but infact that> is not so. Don't be in a haste to judge KAS and its depth, unless you> yourself study it in detail.> > > > My 2 cents.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of> enigmaoflife21> Wednesday August 22, 2007 4:44 PM> > Re: Just lost my job and moneyseems to> elude me !! Help would be appreciated> > > > Dear Harjeet, > Thanks for giving a thought on my chart. A few questions since I> decided to dwell into the system myself to see the technicalities. I> am not well versed as much as many members of this fourm are> nonetheless enjoy leaning and with more learning comes more doubts. > > 1. Agreed about the points and that saturn has only 1 point (based on> the excel worksheet I downloaded) however I have read in the note by> Krushna that a planet if it has less than 4 points does good for the> house it resides in and does bad for the houses it aspects. Saturn> being debiliated (by this system having less than 4 points) isn't that> good since it in an upachaya house (bad in bad) also considering it> has 1 point will it not do good for the house it is residing in which> is the 6th house (job, service, etc) again as the notes mention? > > 2. I agree with the one 0 in 5th house and saturns transit into 5th> house causing problems. > > 3. Current Antra of Mars, well mars has more infact way more points> for 11th house than 12th house. So in theory there should be income> (job) infact higher income than pervious antras since mars antra holds> more points for 11th than 12th as mentioned. > > 4. Generally planets for H11 (in worksheet) are good or strong with> the exception of jupiter. As I understand it antras of all these> planets should provide income more so than expenses. As I see in the> worksheet Moon,Mars,Mercy,Venus all have more points (total) than 12th> house in the BAV (summary sheet) with saturn having the same points> for both 11th and 12th. In theory when running the antra of all these> 5 planets I should have been making more income than expenses.?> > 5. I agree with jupiter having low points for most of the houses and> can expect to seek turbulance during jupiter antra. Would this also> relate to jupiter Maha Dasa. Do the points and power of planets relate> to maha dasa as well or just the antras? > > 6. A point I have mentioned in the other post. Even during the antra's> of powerful income planets or 11th house signification. I had to take> loan during my studies (studied from 1998 to 2005) and education was> expensive and funded by student loans. I was in debt since the last 9> years (during which point I ran different antras). So how does all> that fit into the picture. > > regards and would be looking foward to clearning these doubts and> thanks much for taking the time to look into my chart. > > regards> Vish> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> "harjeet bakshi"> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> >> > Dear Vish,> > just want to try your chart.> > try to read the lesson and get familiar with terms.> > all the planets are more than 4 points except saturn... reducing the> > status of the chart.> > one zero in 5th house...> > sav points in 11th house is less than 12th house... showing more> expense..> > current antra of mars having low points for 6th and 10th house.> > saturn going over house giving zero causing trouble.> > points for sa+ju is less than 8.> > daily points are less than 196.> > have to be careful in next year sa+ju points drop to 5 points.(min 8> > required).around end of june next year mars also goes over leo the> > house that gives zero points.. causing more problems.> > besides next antra of jupiter have very low points for 6th house for> > job and 11th house of income... and more for 10th house of effort and> > 12th house of expense..> > antra of saturn after feb 2010 would give relief.. as points for> > saturn for 11th house is more than previous antra but the points for> > 11th and 12th house are same.> > next antra of mercury is strong for 6,10,11 houses would give better> > results around aug end 2012..> > regarding marriage venus is in adra nakshatra and more than 43 degree> > away and having sight of saturn..and lord of 6th house in 4th house> > which happens to be house D. besides zero in 5th house... but i am not> > going in detail.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> "enigmaoflife21"> > <enigmaoflife21@> wrote:> > >> > > Hello everyone, > > > I just lost my job a few days back and never seem to be sucessful in> > > any venture. I was advised to keep away from business and evenservice> > > does not really help. Tried to make a house and things did notseem to> > > materialize, career is just side tracked to a tangent not inline with> > > my education (engineer by profession) and marriage is still notin the> > > cards. My major concern seems to be career and money both ofwhich are> > > unsatisfactor. I suppose I can live single for the rest of mylife, I> > > can live in remote places which might be a result of work. But I> > > absolutely want to attain a high position in my career and definetly> > > seeking financial security. I wonder if anyone will be kindenough of> > > say weather I would find a decent job and make enough money inlife to> > > live a normal fullfilling life. As i said it does not seem tohappy. > > > > > > Some events as required on my part > > > > > > 1. Completed education end of 2005 (engineering chemical) > > > 2. Moved abroad to the west in may of 98 > > > 3. worked with a consulting firm from july 2006 to aug 2007 > > > > > > details are > > > August 6 1980, @ 00:04am (4 mintues right after midnite),bombay. I am> > > told the acedent in my chart is aries with moon in second > > > > > > any assistance or help would be much appreciated since I am notreally> > > well versed with astrology and would like to seek some guidanceduring> > > trouble times. > > > > > > regards> > > Vish> > >> >> Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Dear Vish, I appreciate you for taking inertest in KAS. You can have no end of doubts to any system, till you have accurate data of the native. Yes, definition of WEALTH,this depends upon you how you take this. I hope some messgae archives will help you for your questions under discussions. Regards Anup enigmaoflife21 <enigmaoflife21 wrote: Dear Ash, I enjoy the pointers given by you and at the onset let me clarify I amnot here to criticize or judge one system over an other. I am bringingout my doubts (which are a resultant of learning) hence the conceptthat do not learn about God but know, feel or have faith in Him. Butwith science thats not the case and I feel we freely can ask questions. Again a few of my thoughts based on your emails. I am not proficientas you or the other members so kindly disregard points that you mightfeel are off track. 1. Every system weather prashara or KP or jaimin or this system has aninherent assumption of seeing the chart as a whole and somethingeither fits a description or there are pointers which might be turnedaround or fine tune to make it fit the facts. Please do notmisunderstand me but what I am trying to say is, as an engineer if Icalibrate a caliper to measure something based on a calibration curve.Then rest assured no matter how the other things change the standardto which it is calibrated will never change. In analogy say with thepoint system if 11th house has less points than 12th (then makingincome for such a person would be challanging as you mentiond) howeverI am sure you have come across many charts where 11th house might havelower points than 12th and people are immesenly rich due to theirgains from other sources. Sure at this stage the skeptic can say thatwe need to look at the chart as a whole but this would miss outstandardization over the vast realm and would provide a 50-50 successrate or perhaps lower or higher depending on guess work. Any keeping that to a side which would end up turning into aphilosophical dicussion away from the system. I am wondering if youcan say anything positive that might happen to me during the course ofmy life or weather according to your system there is any positiveinfluence in the chart showing property and finanical security. Thatsall I need to know and would appreciate admits the confusion that hasbeen going around in my life. As a simple pointer I know of a person in close family details 12 November 19517:00pm bombay His 11th house points are much higher than 12th. But the person hasalways been in debt ever since he was 29 or 30 years. I am sure onecan point the chart to a different direction. But the addictum of 11thover 12th itself does not substaniate a conclusion that a person willhave easy or hard growth. I can provide further charts if you arewilling to have an open dicussion without hard thoughts but for peopleto learn. Best Regards and cheers Vish , "Ash" <kas wrote:>> Dear Vish,> > > > Desh, Kaal and Paatra are very important principle that you have also> alluded to in your mail.> > > > Many North Americans, have a mortgage, so that can be considered as an> investment and it's a part of life sort of speaking.> > > > So when there are expenses then 12th house points might be more andsay if u> brought a house then 4th house points also might go up.> > > > If 11th is less than 12th, then during that time success and incomemight be> more challenging especially if 12th is more than 11th. > > > > You also should in parallel see Sa and Ju points as well.> > > > If 8th points are more than you might get some help in terms of> "inheritance" of some unearned wealth during that period.> > > > So there can be many things involved. The key to understand isthat all 12> houses are acting together.> > > > Take a scenario, where 6th house points are good, so it means umight get> student loan, then at same time dasha of 5th has good power in 5th, so > > You might get a degree so your expense might be going towardseducation. If> Sa and Ju are also 8 or more then u might be more positive.> > > > Degree is Karak for authority, 5th is karak for 10th. > > > > So u must study all 12 houses and apply desh kaal paatra principal. It> might be common in North America to get student loan, but that mightnot be> the case in the Republic of Congo, Nepal and India, hypotheticallyspeaking.> > > > In KAS we are studying astrology on proper scientific grounds and with> concrete reasoning.> > > > You have mentioned that KAS is contra to Parasara system, but infact that> is not so. Don't be in a haste to judge KAS and its depth, unless you> yourself study it in detail.> > > > My 2 cents.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of> enigmaoflife21> Wednesday August 22, 2007 4:44 PM> > Re: Just lost my job and moneyseems to> elude me !! Help would be appreciated> > > > Dear Harjeet, > Thanks for giving a thought on my chart. A few questions since I> decided to dwell into the system myself to see the technicalities. I> am not well versed as much as many members of this fourm are> nonetheless enjoy leaning and with more learning comes more doubts. > > 1. Agreed about the points and that saturn has only 1 point (based on> the excel worksheet I downloaded) however I have read in the note by> Krushna that a planet if it has less than 4 points does good for the> house it resides in and does bad for the houses it aspects. Saturn> being debiliated (by this system having less than 4 points) isn't that> good since it in an upachaya house (bad in bad) also considering it> has 1 point will it not do good for the house it is residing in which> is the 6th house (job, service, etc) again as the notes mention? > > 2. I agree with the one 0 in 5th house and saturns transit into 5th> house causing problems. > > 3. Current Antra of Mars, well mars has more infact way more points> for 11th house than 12th house. So in theory there should be income> (job) infact higher income than pervious antras since mars antra holds> more points for 11th than 12th as mentioned. > > 4. Generally planets for H11 (in worksheet) are good or strong with> the exception of jupiter. As I understand it antras of all these> planets should provide income more so than expenses. As I see in the> worksheet Moon,Mars,Mercy,Venus all have more points (total) than 12th> house in the BAV (summary sheet) with saturn having the same points> for both 11th and 12th. In theory when running the antra of all these> 5 planets I should have been making more income than expenses.?> > 5. I agree with jupiter having low points for most of the houses and> can expect to seek turbulance during jupiter antra. Would this also> relate to jupiter Maha Dasa. Do the points and power of planets relate> to maha dasa as well or just the antras? > > 6. A point I have mentioned in the other post. Even during the antra's> of powerful income planets or 11th house signification. I had to take> loan during my studies (studied from 1998 to 2005) and education was> expensive and funded by student loans. I was in debt since the last 9> years (during which point I ran different antras). So how does all> that fit into the picture. > > regards and would be looking foward to clearning these doubts and> thanks much for taking the time to look into my chart. > > regards> Vish> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> "harjeet bakshi"> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> >> > Dear Vish,> > just want to try your chart.> > try to read the lesson and get familiar with terms.> > all the planets are more than 4 points except saturn... reducing the> > status of the chart.> > one zero in 5th house...> > sav points in 11th house is less than 12th house... showing more> expense..> > current antra of mars having low points for 6th and 10th house.> > saturn going over house giving zero causing trouble.> > points for sa+ju is less than 8.> > daily points are less than 196.> > have to be careful in next year sa+ju points drop to 5 points.(min 8> > required).around end of june next year mars also goes over leo the> > house that gives zero points.. causing more problems.> > besides next antra of jupiter have very low points for 6th house for> > job and 11th house of income... and more for 10th house of effort and> > 12th house of expense..> > antra of saturn after feb 2010 would give relief.. as points for> > saturn for 11th house is more than previous antra but the points for> > 11th and 12th house are same.> > next antra of mercury is strong for 6,10,11 houses would give better> > results around aug end 2012..> > regarding marriage venus is in adra nakshatra and more than 43 degree> > away and having sight of saturn..and lord of 6th house in 4th house> > which happens to be house D. besides zero in 5th house... but i am not> > going in detail.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> "enigmaoflife21"> > <enigmaoflife21@> wrote:> > >> > > Hello everyone, > > > I just lost my job a few days back and never seem to be sucessful in> > > any venture. I was advised to keep away from business and evenservice> > > does not really help. Tried to make a house and things did notseem to> > > materialize, career is just side tracked to a tangent not inline with> > > my education (engineer by profession) and marriage is still notin the> > > cards. My major concern seems to be career and money both ofwhich are> > > unsatisfactor. I suppose I can live single for the rest of mylife, I> > > can live in remote places which might be a result of work. But I> > > absolutely want to attain a high position in my career and definetly> > > seeking financial security. I wonder if anyone will be kindenough of> > > say weather I would find a decent job and make enough money inlife to> > > live a normal fullfilling life. As i said it does not seem tohappy. > > > > > > Some events as required on my part > > > > > > 1. Completed education end of 2005 (engineering chemical) > > > 2. Moved abroad to the west in may of 98 > > > 3. worked with a consulting firm from july 2006 to aug 2007 > > > > > > details are > > > August 6 1980, @ 00:04am (4 mintues right after midnite),bombay. I am> > > told the acedent in my chart is aries with moon in second > > > > > > any assistance or help would be much appreciated since I am notreally> > > well versed with astrology and would like to seek some guidanceduring> > > trouble times. > > > > > > regards> > > Vish> > >> >> Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Dear Anup and Vish, Anup, thanks for posting these messages from the archives. It took be back memory lane. Vish, regarding effects of Ju in libra, Ve to Sun distance, marriage delay etc that I have computed, here is a post u might want to read, along with an example that Krushnaji himself has solved for Surendra. /message/2896 You can then compare the chart you gave, to the chart that Krushnaji has solved and also refer to my analysis. So that way these laws that are given, should make more sense. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. M Wednesday August 22, 2007 11:36 PM Re: Re: Just lost my job and money seems to elude me !! Help would be appreciated Dear Vish, Also go thru message #2901 in archives. Regards Anup enigmaoflife21 <enigmaoflife21 > wrote: Dear Ash, I enjoy the pointers given by you and at the onset let me clarify I am not here to criticize or judge one system over an other. I am bringing out my doubts (which are a resultant of learning) hence the concept that do not learn about God but know, feel or have faith in Him. But with science thats not the case and I feel we freely can ask questions. Again a few of my thoughts based on your emails. I am not proficient as you or the other members so kindly disregard points that you might feel are off track. 1. Every system weather prashara or KP or jaimin or this system has an inherent assumption of seeing the chart as a whole and something either fits a description or there are pointers which might be turned around or fine tune to make it fit the facts. Please do not misunderstand me but what I am trying to say is, as an engineer if I calibrate a caliper to measure something based on a calibration curve. Then rest assured no matter how the other things change the standard to which it is calibrated will never change. In analogy say with the point system if 11th house has less points than 12th (then making income for such a person would be challanging as you mentiond) however I am sure you have come across many charts where 11th house might have lower points than 12th and people are immesenly rich due to their gains from other sources. Sure at this stage the skeptic can say that we need to look at the chart as a whole but this would miss out standardization over the vast realm and would provide a 50-50 success rate or perhaps lower or higher depending on guess work. Any keeping that to a side which would end up turning into a philosophical dicussion away from the system. I am wondering if you can say anything positive that might happen to me during the course of my life or weather according to your system there is any positive influence in the chart showing property and finanical security. Thats all I need to know and would appreciate admits the confusion that has been going around in my life. As a simple pointer I know of a person in close family details 12 November 1951 7:00pm bombay His 11th house points are much higher than 12th. But the person has always been in debt ever since he was 29 or 30 years. I am sure one can point the chart to a different direction. But the addictum of 11th over 12th itself does not substaniate a conclusion that a person will have easy or hard growth. I can provide further charts if you are willing to have an open dicussion without hard thoughts but for people to learn. Best Regards and cheers Vish , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Vish, > > > > Desh, Kaal and Paatra are very important principle that you have also > alluded to in your mail. > > > > Many North Americans, have a mortgage, so that can be considered as an > investment and it's a part of life sort of speaking. > > > > So when there are expenses then 12th house points might be more and say if u > brought a house then 4th house points also might go up. > > > > If 11th is less than 12th, then during that time success and income might be > more challenging especially if 12th is more than 11th. > > > > You also should in parallel see Sa and Ju points as well. > > > > If 8th points are more than you might get some help in terms of > " inheritance " of some unearned wealth during that period. > > > > So there can be many things involved. The key to understand is that all 12 > houses are acting together. > > > > Take a scenario, where 6th house points are good, so it means u might get > student loan, then at same time dasha of 5th has good power in 5th, so > > You might get a degree so your expense might be going towards education. If > Sa and Ju are also 8 or more then u might be more positive. > > > > Degree is Karak for authority, 5th is karak for 10th. > > > > So u must study all 12 houses and apply desh kaal paatra principal. It > might be common in North America to get student loan, but that might not be > the case in the Republic of Congo, Nepal and India, hypothetically speaking. > > > > In KAS we are studying astrology on proper scientific grounds and with > concrete reasoning. > > > > You have mentioned that KAS is contra to Parasara system, but in fact that > is not so. Don't be in a haste to judge KAS and its depth, unless you > yourself study it in detail. > > > > My 2 cents. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of > enigmaoflife21 > Wednesday August 22, 2007 4:44 PM > > Re: Just lost my job and money seems to > elude me !! Help would be appreciated > > > > Dear Harjeet, > Thanks for giving a thought on my chart. A few questions since I > decided to dwell into the system myself to see the technicalities. I > am not well versed as much as many members of this fourm are > nonetheless enjoy leaning and with more learning comes more doubts. > > 1. Agreed about the points and that saturn has only 1 point (based on > the excel worksheet I downloaded) however I have read in the note by > Krushna that a planet if it has less than 4 points does good for the > house it resides in and does bad for the houses it aspects. Saturn > being debiliated (by this system having less than 4 points) isn't that > good since it in an upachaya house (bad in bad) also considering it > has 1 point will it not do good for the house it is residing in which > is the 6th house (job, service, etc) again as the notes mention? > > 2. I agree with the one 0 in 5th house and saturns transit into 5th > house causing problems. > > 3. Current Antra of Mars, well mars has more infact way more points > for 11th house than 12th house. So in theory there should be income > (job) infact higher income than pervious antras since mars antra holds > more points for 11th than 12th as mentioned. > > 4. Generally planets for H11 (in worksheet) are good or strong with > the exception of jupiter. As I understand it antras of all these > planets should provide income more so than expenses. As I see in the > worksheet Moon,Mars,Mercy,Venus all have more points (total) than 12th > house in the BAV (summary sheet) with saturn having the same points > for both 11th and 12th. In theory when running the antra of all these > 5 planets I should have been making more income than expenses.? > > 5. I agree with jupiter having low points for most of the houses and > can expect to seek turbulance during jupiter antra. Would this also > relate to jupiter Maha Dasa. Do the points and power of planets relate > to maha dasa as well or just the antras? > > 6. A point I have mentioned in the other post. Even during the antra's > of powerful income planets or 11th house signification. I had to take > loan during my studies (studied from 1998 to 2005) and education was > expensive and funded by student loans. I was in debt since the last 9 > years (during which point I ran different antras). So how does all > that fit into the picture. > > regards and would be looking foward to clearning these doubts and > thanks much for taking the time to look into my chart. > > regards > Vish > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " harjeet bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vish, > > just want to try your chart. > > try to read the lesson and get familiar with terms. > > all the planets are more than 4 points except saturn... reducing the > > status of the chart. > > one zero in 5th house... > > sav points in 11th house is less than 12th house... showing more > expense.. > > current antra of mars having low points for 6th and 10th house. > > saturn going over house giving zero causing trouble. > > points for sa+ju is less than 8. > > daily points are less than 196. > > have to be careful in next year sa+ju points drop to 5 points.(min 8 > > required).around end of june next year mars also goes over leo the > > house that gives zero points.. causing more problems. > > besides next antra of jupiter have very low points for 6th house for > > job and 11th house of income... and more for 10th house of effort and > > 12th house of expense.. > > antra of saturn after feb 2010 would give relief.. as points for > > saturn for 11th house is more than previous antra but the points for > > 11th and 12th house are same. > > next antra of mercury is strong for 6,10,11 houses would give better > > results around aug end 2012.. > > regarding marriage venus is in adra nakshatra and more than 43 degree > > away and having sight of saturn..and lord of 6th house in 4th house > > which happens to be house D. besides zero in 5th house... but i am not > > going in detail. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " enigmaoflife21 " > > <enigmaoflife21@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > I just lost my job a few days back and never seem to be sucessful in > > > any venture. I was advised to keep away from business and even service > > > does not really help. Tried to make a house and things did not seem to > > > materialize, career is just side tracked to a tangent not in line with > > > my education (engineer by profession) and marriage is still not in the > > > cards. My major concern seems to be career and money both of which are > > > unsatisfactor. I suppose I can live single for the rest of my life, I > > > can live in remote places which might be a result of work. But I > > > absolutely want to attain a high position in my career and definetly > > > seeking financial security. I wonder if anyone will be kind enough of > > > say weather I would find a decent job and make enough money in life to > > > live a normal fullfilling life. As i said it does not seem to happy. > > > > > > Some events as required on my part > > > > > > 1. Completed education end of 2005 (engineering chemical) > > > 2. Moved abroad to the west in may of 98 > > > 3. worked with a consulting firm from july 2006 to aug 2007 > > > > > > details are > > > August 6 1980, @ 00:04am (4 mintues right after midnite), bombay. I am > > > told the acedent in my chart is aries with moon in second > > > > > > any assistance or help would be much appreciated since I am not really > > > well versed with astrology and would like to seek some guidance during > > > trouble times. > > > > > > regards > > > Vish > > > > > > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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