Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Dear Ash, On my quest to actually see how the concept of 11 and 12th house points work. I present two charts below Starting from a middle class family to reach higher heights Venus Williams June 17, 1980 2:12 pm lynwood, CA, USA points in 11th house = 21 points in 12th house = 23 and we all know about her earning ratio. And the all so famous Queen elizabith II who was born into a rich family April 21, 1926 2:40am London, UK point in 11th house = 30 points in 12th house = 33 There are other charts I can provide as well, including celine dion, who rose from a very poor family background but to avoid overwhemling the post I guess we can first tackle the rational behind 11/12th points for the above charts without hopefully digressing away from the basic SAV points principle. regards Vish regards Vish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Dear Vish, I think you are equating the number of bindus in 11th to the Quantum of income. That is incorrect. Refer archives. This is explained by Krushnaji. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of enigmaoflife21 Thursday August 23, 2007 6:04 AM Subject: 11 and 12th house studies ! Dear Ash, On my quest to actually see how the concept of 11 and 12th house points work. I present two charts below Starting from a middle class family to reach higher heights Venus Williams June 17, 1980 2:12 pm lynwood, CA, USA points in 11th house = 21 points in 12th house = 23 and we all know about her earning ratio. And the all so famous Queen elizabith II who was born into a rich family April 21, 1926 2:40am London, UK point in 11th house = 30 points in 12th house = 33 There are other charts I can provide as well, including celine dion, who rose from a very poor family background but to avoid overwhemling the post I guess we can first tackle the rational behind 11/12th points for the above charts without hopefully digressing away from the basic SAV points principle. regards Vish regards Vish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Dear Vish, i attempted your chart for my learning purpose and i am trying to understand the system and not good at it. so dont take my comments to be final verdict. and try to read the lessons and ponder upon the following. look at the points given by sa+ju... look at the points you get in mars antra for 6th house which is for work and karak for 11th house. also 10th house is house C for 6th house which is the house of results for house 6th. both 6th and 10th house have less points in worksheet. as explained before if karak is weak the result for that house is bad. check the multiplication factor for the sign where mars is in.. you got degree in antra of moon i guess. its in 2nd house with 5 points so would give results of 5th house and 9th house. i may be wrong here and Ashji can correct me. 11th house itself doesnt say everything nor 12th house. sav of 11th and 12th house is just an indication. its not that during all the antras this effect would be felt. the following 2 charts.. i havent seen them.. but ask you to look at them and study. for williams chart look at the planets in 12th house and read about the results of planets in 12th house and about the houses where lord of 12th go from the lesson. check the antra and the points in the worksheet... if i am not mistaken even bill gates have more points in 12th house. i dont know the ratio... i guess his money is going in donation. check the trends of antra and points in worksheet again. mike tyson and michael jackson are other 2 egs. of rich people going almost broke. so we have to check savs for general trend, sa+jp points and points in worksheet in antras for different houses.. when the event occurs. so for williams if the worksheet has points distribution not favouring income and more expense.. with less sa+ju points then the event might occur.. so it doesnt mean less sav in 11th and more in 12th would make a person poor by birth... regarding queen's chart ( i dont know that either) i can just make a guess if she ever works...? then i think about 11th house which is dhan sthan from 10th i.e. money from work i.e. income.. then i think how much money she spends compared to the money she earns.. try to look at other houses like 5th, 8th and 2nd.. also check worksheet and points for different antras and then reach at your analysis. thanks/regards harjeet , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Vish, > > > > I think you are equating the number of bindus in 11th to the Quantum of > income. That is incorrect. Refer archives. This is explained by > Krushnaji. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of > enigmaoflife21 > Thursday August 23, 2007 6:04 AM > > 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > > Dear Ash, > > On my quest to actually see how the concept of 11 and 12th house > points work. > > I present two charts below > > Starting from a middle class family to reach higher heights > Venus Williams > June 17, 1980 > 2:12 pm > lynwood, CA, USA > > points in 11th house = 21 > points in 12th house = 23 > > and we all know about her earning ratio. > > And the all so famous Queen elizabith II who was born into a rich family > > April 21, 1926 > 2:40am > London, UK > > point in 11th house = 30 > points in 12th house = 33 > > There are other charts I can provide as well, including celine dion, > who rose from a very poor family background but to avoid overwhemling > the post I guess we can first tackle the rational behind 11/12th > points for the above charts without hopefully digressing away from the > basic SAV points principle. > > regards > Vish > > regards > Vish > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Dear Vish, Go through the lesson n: 21 "Occupation". Read especially last two pages ,everything will be clear regarding 11th v/s12th house points. Regards Anup Ash <kas wrote: Dear Vish, I think you are equating the number of bindus in 11th to the Quantum of income. That is incorrect. Refer archives. This is explained by Krushnaji. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of enigmaoflife21Thursday August 23, 2007 6:04 AM Subject: 11 and 12th house studies ! Dear Ash,On my quest to actually see how the concept of 11 and 12th housepoints work.I present two charts belowStarting from a middle class family to reach higher heights Venus WilliamsJune 17, 19802:12 pmlynwood, CA, USApoints in 11th house = 21points in 12th house = 23and we all know about her earning ratio.And the all so famous Queen elizabith II who was born into a rich family April 21, 19262:40am London, UK point in 11th house = 30points in 12th house = 33 There are other charts I can provide as well, including celine dion,who rose from a very poor family background but to avoid overwhemlingthe post I guess we can first tackle the rational behind 11/12thpoints for the above charts without hopefully digressing away from thebasic SAV points principle. regardsVish regardsVish Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Thanks will read the lesson and try to see and understand what is mentioned regards Vish , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Vish, > Go through the lesson n: 21 " Occupation " . > Read especially last two pages ,everything will be clear regarding 11th v/s12th house points. > > Regards > Anup > > > > Ash <kas wrote: > Dear Vish, > > I think you are equating the number of bindus in 11th to the Quantum of income. That is incorrect. Refer archives. This is explained by Krushnaji. > > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > On Behalf Of enigmaoflife21 > Thursday August 23, 2007 6:04 AM > > 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > Dear Ash, > > On my quest to actually see how the concept of 11 and 12th house > points work. > > I present two charts below > > Starting from a middle class family to reach higher heights > Venus Williams > June 17, 1980 > 2:12 pm > lynwood, CA, USA > > points in 11th house = 21 > points in 12th house = 23 > > and we all know about her earning ratio. > > And the all so famous Queen elizabith II who was born into a rich family > > April 21, 1926 > 2:40am > London, UK > > point in 11th house = 30 > points in 12th house = 33 > > There are other charts I can provide as well, including celine dion, > who rose from a very poor family background but to avoid overwhemling > the post I guess we can first tackle the rational behind 11/12th > points for the above charts without hopefully digressing away from the > basic SAV points principle. > > regards > Vish > > regards > Vish > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. > Answers - Check it out. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Dear Harjeet, I like to thank you for taking the time to analyze my chart. Your efforts are well taken. I will read the lessons and in fact I am reading them. Keep well and best regards Vish , " harjeet bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Dear Vish, > i attempted your chart for my learning purpose and i am trying to > understand the system and not good at it. so dont take my comments to > be final verdict. and try to read the lessons and ponder upon the > following. > > look at the points given by sa+ju... > look at the points you get in mars antra for 6th house which is for > work and karak for 11th house. also 10th house is house C for 6th > house which is the house of results for house 6th. both 6th and 10th > house have less points in worksheet. as explained before if karak is > weak the result for that house is bad. > check the multiplication factor for the sign where mars is in.. > you got degree in antra of moon i guess. > its in 2nd house with 5 points so would give results of 5th house and > 9th house. > > i may be wrong here and Ashji can correct me. > 11th house itself doesnt say everything nor 12th house. > sav of 11th and 12th house is just an indication. its not that during > all the antras this effect would be felt. > the following 2 charts.. i havent seen them.. but ask you to look at > them and study. for williams chart look at the planets in 12th house > and read about the results of planets in 12th house and about the > houses where lord of 12th go from the lesson. > check the antra and the points in the worksheet... > > if i am not mistaken even bill gates have more points in 12th house. > i dont know the ratio... i guess his money is going in donation. > check the trends of antra and points in worksheet again. > mike tyson and michael jackson are other 2 egs. of rich people going > almost broke. so we have to check savs for general trend, sa+jp points > and points in worksheet in antras for different houses.. when the > event occurs. > so for williams if the worksheet has points distribution not favouring > income and more expense.. with less sa+ju points then the event might > occur.. so it doesnt mean less sav in 11th and more in 12th would make > a person poor by birth... > regarding queen's chart ( i dont know that either) i can just make a > guess if she ever works...? then i think about 11th house which is > dhan sthan from 10th i.e. money from work i.e. income.. then i think > how much money she spends compared to the money she earns.. > try to look at other houses like 5th, 8th and 2nd.. also check > worksheet and points for different antras and then reach at your analysis. > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vish, > > > > > > > > I think you are equating the number of bindus in 11th to the Quantum of > > income. That is incorrect. Refer archives. This is explained by > > Krushnaji. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > enigmaoflife21 > > Thursday August 23, 2007 6:04 AM > > > > 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > On my quest to actually see how the concept of 11 and 12th house > > points work. > > > > I present two charts below > > > > Starting from a middle class family to reach higher heights > > Venus Williams > > June 17, 1980 > > 2:12 pm > > lynwood, CA, USA > > > > points in 11th house = 21 > > points in 12th house = 23 > > > > and we all know about her earning ratio. > > > > And the all so famous Queen elizabith II who was born into a rich > family > > > > April 21, 1926 > > 2:40am > > London, UK > > > > point in 11th house = 30 > > points in 12th house = 33 > > > > There are other charts I can provide as well, including celine dion, > > who rose from a very poor family background but to avoid overwhemling > > the post I guess we can first tackle the rational behind 11/12th > > points for the above charts without hopefully digressing away from the > > basic SAV points principle. > > > > regards > > Vish > > > > regards > > Vish > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Dear Ash, No I think you are assuming that, I am not equating the number of bidhus in the 11th to the Quantum of income. I am rather equating it to the earning potential or gain potential in a chart. Logically speaking a higher bidhu house is stronger at the expense of the other house. So nope I am not saying that if a 11th house has more points the person will have more income. Only that the person's chart is more gainful and he can derive more gain. Atleast thats what I am understanding in the KAS system and more in the 'Archives' you somehow seem to go back to archives In response to your other posting, of answering questions, as I said I am not an astrology Guru like yourself and though questions are far fetched for my tiny brain since Im still in the process of learning and questioning . However I have a preposition why don't you time for me the next 6 numbers for the canadian bc 649 the jackpot is it 30 million I heard. I will pay out 30% to you, that way I can take care of my student loans, debt, and you will not have to charge $200 for your astrological consultations Isn't money we all search no matter how the chart is and isn't finanical security we all try to build. I will be waiting for the 6 numbers after all KAS is highly mathematical and should not have problems finding the 6 set of numbers and I should win. regards Vish , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Vish, > > > > I think you are equating the number of bindus in 11th to the Quantum of > income. That is incorrect. Refer archives. This is explained by > Krushnaji. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of > enigmaoflife21 > Thursday August 23, 2007 6:04 AM > > 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > > Dear Ash, > > On my quest to actually see how the concept of 11 and 12th house > points work. > > I present two charts below > > Starting from a middle class family to reach higher heights > Venus Williams > June 17, 1980 > 2:12 pm > lynwood, CA, USA > > points in 11th house = 21 > points in 12th house = 23 > > and we all know about her earning ratio. > > And the all so famous Queen elizabith II who was born into a rich family > > April 21, 1926 > 2:40am > London, UK > > point in 11th house = 30 > points in 12th house = 33 > > There are other charts I can provide as well, including celine dion, > who rose from a very poor family background but to avoid overwhemling > the post I guess we can first tackle the rational behind 11/12th > points for the above charts without hopefully digressing away from the > basic SAV points principle. > > regards > Vish > > regards > Vish > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Dear Vish, You still haven’t answered my questions. Awaiting J Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of enigmaoflife21 Thursday August 23, 2007 1:46 PM Re: 11 and 12th house studies ! Dear Ash, No I think you are assuming that, I am not equating the number of bidhus in the 11th to the Quantum of income. I am rather equating it to the earning potential or gain potential in a chart. Logically speaking a higher bidhu house is stronger at the expense of the other house. So nope I am not saying that if a 11th house has more points the person will have more income. Only that the person's chart is more gainful and he can derive more gain. Atleast thats what I am understanding in the KAS system and more in the 'Archives' you somehow seem to go back to archives In response to your other posting, of answering questions, as I said I am not an astrology Guru like yourself and though questions are far fetched for my tiny brain since Im still in the process of learning and questioning . However I have a preposition why don't you time for me the next 6 numbers for the canadian bc 649 the jackpot is it 30 million I heard. I will pay out 30% to you, that way I can take care of my student loans, debt, and you will not have to charge $200 for your astrological consultations Isn't money we all search no matter how the chart is and isn't finanical security we all try to build. I will be waiting for the 6 numbers after all KAS is highly mathematical and should not have problems finding the 6 set of numbers and I should win. regards Vish , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Vish, > > > > I think you are equating the number of bindus in 11th to the Quantum of > income. That is incorrect. Refer archives. This is explained by > Krushnaji. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of > enigmaoflife21 > Thursday August 23, 2007 6:04 AM > > 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > > Dear Ash, > > On my quest to actually see how the concept of 11 and 12th house > points work. > > I present two charts below > > Starting from a middle class family to reach higher heights > Venus Williams > June 17, 1980 > 2:12 pm > lynwood, CA, USA > > points in 11th house = 21 > points in 12th house = 23 > > and we all know about her earning ratio. > > And the all so famous Queen elizabith II who was born into a rich family > > April 21, 1926 > 2:40am > London, UK > > point in 11th house = 30 > points in 12th house = 33 > > There are other charts I can provide as well, including celine dion, > who rose from a very poor family background but to avoid overwhemling > the post I guess we can first tackle the rational behind 11/12th > points for the above charts without hopefully digressing away from the > basic SAV points principle. > > regards > Vish > > regards > Vish > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Lol Ash, I think you are a funny man like myself, I have not seen your chart but I can sense that you are a thinker perhaps having a humorous side which I appreciate. Makes me think of you more of human being than a pandit in yellow dress. Since with pandits (not all but most) if you joke with them they say the heaven is going to come crashing on you and God will do this and that Anyhow honestly I cannot answer you questions since I am not well versed with astrology. How can a student answer the teacher. You are the teacher I am the student. I am sure if you check in the archives for parashara or K.P or other websites including SJC (sanjays) you will find your answer. You will also come across their student clamining that their system is prefect and nothing matches their system. I hope you see where I am getting at. For me I would appreiciate if you can given me the next 649 lotto numbers honestly a lot of debt is huanting me. Weather you see that from my chart or not. I sure like to pay off my debt and go for a vacation in hawaii with my guitar and play some nice music. I promise you (and I keep my word) that you will get 30% of my lottery winnings on a 34 million jackpot thats a whole lot. What do you say? In fact better since KAS is a mathemtical quanitification if we can win the lottery a few number of times we can spread the wealth around and actually solve problems afflicting people rather than dicussing them on fourms such as these, it would be taking an action. So consider me a grain of sand in an ocean full of knowledge as newton said and help me figure out the next 6 numbers soon. I am willing to rest my case and accept KAS as the ultimate de facto timing and prediction system if I can win this BC 649 jackpot. and will gladly put all hats down from my end. Regards Vish , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Vish, > > > > You still haven't answered my questions. Awaiting :-) > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of > enigmaoflife21 > Thursday August 23, 2007 1:46 PM > > Re: 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > > Dear Ash, > > No I think you are assuming that, I am not equating the number of > bidhus in the 11th to the Quantum of income. I am rather equating it > to the earning potential or gain potential in a chart. Logically > speaking a higher bidhu house is stronger at the expense of the other > house. So nope I am not saying that if a 11th house has more points > the person will have more income. Only that the person's chart is more > gainful and he can derive more gain. Atleast thats what I am > understanding in the KAS system and more in the 'Archives' you somehow > seem to go back to archives > > In response to your other posting, of answering questions, as I said I > am not an astrology Guru like yourself and though questions are far > fetched for my tiny brain since Im still in the process of learning > and questioning . However I have a preposition why don't you time > for me the next 6 numbers for the canadian bc 649 the jackpot is it 30 > million I heard. I will pay out 30% to you, that way I can take care > of my student loans, debt, and you will not have to charge $200 for > your astrological consultations Isn't money we all search no matter > how the chart is and isn't finanical security we all try to build. > > I will be waiting for the 6 numbers after all KAS is highly > mathematical and should not have problems finding the 6 set of numbers > and I should win. > > regards > Vish > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vish, > > > > > > > > I think you are equating the number of bindus in 11th to the Quantum of > > income. That is incorrect. Refer archives. This is explained by > > Krushnaji. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of > > enigmaoflife21 > > Thursday August 23, 2007 6:04 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > On my quest to actually see how the concept of 11 and 12th house > > points work. > > > > I present two charts below > > > > Starting from a middle class family to reach higher heights > > Venus Williams > > June 17, 1980 > > 2:12 pm > > lynwood, CA, USA > > > > points in 11th house = 21 > > points in 12th house = 23 > > > > and we all know about her earning ratio. > > > > And the all so famous Queen elizabith II who was born into a rich > family > > > > April 21, 1926 > > 2:40am > > London, UK > > > > point in 11th house = 30 > > points in 12th house = 33 > > > > There are other charts I can provide as well, including celine dion, > > who rose from a very poor family background but to avoid overwhemling > > the post I guess we can first tackle the rational behind 11/12th > > points for the above charts without hopefully digressing away from the > > basic SAV points principle. > > > > regards > > Vish > > > > regards > > Vish > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Dear Vish, This discussion group is for learning KAS. These mails are becoming rhetorical so let’s end this here and not take up bandwidth of the list. If you are interested in learning KAS you are more than welcome, you have been well advised my members on where to get literature. Lets all get back to KAS. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of enigmaoflife21 Thursday August 23, 2007 2:22 PM Subject: Re: 11 and 12th house studies ! Lol Ash, I think you are a funny man like myself, I have not seen your chart but I can sense that you are a thinker perhaps having a humorous side which I appreciate. Makes me think of you more of human being than a pandit in yellow dress. Since with pandits (not all but most) if you joke with them they say the heaven is going to come crashing on you and God will do this and that Anyhow honestly I cannot answer you questions since I am not well versed with astrology. How can a student answer the teacher. You are the teacher I am the student. I am sure if you check in the archives for parashara or K.P or other websites including SJC (sanjays) you will find your answer. You will also come across their student clamining that their system is prefect and nothing matches their system. I hope you see where I am getting at. For me I would appreiciate if you can given me the next 649 lotto numbers honestly a lot of debt is huanting me. Weather you see that from my chart or not. I sure like to pay off my debt and go for a vacation in hawaii with my guitar and play some nice music. I promise you (and I keep my word) that you will get 30% of my lottery winnings on a 34 million jackpot thats a whole lot. What do you say? In fact better since KAS is a mathemtical quanitification if we can win the lottery a few number of times we can spread the wealth around and actually solve problems afflicting people rather than dicussing them on fourms such as these, it would be taking an action. So consider me a grain of sand in an ocean full of knowledge as newton said and help me figure out the next 6 numbers soon. I am willing to rest my case and accept KAS as the ultimate de facto timing and prediction system if I can win this BC 649 jackpot. and will gladly put all hats down from my end. Regards Vish , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Vish, > > > > You still haven't answered my questions. Awaiting :-) > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of > enigmaoflife21 > Thursday August 23, 2007 1:46 PM > > Re: 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > > Dear Ash, > > No I think you are assuming that, I am not equating the number of > bidhus in the 11th to the Quantum of income. I am rather equating it > to the earning potential or gain potential in a chart. Logically > speaking a higher bidhu house is stronger at the expense of the other > house. So nope I am not saying that if a 11th house has more points > the person will have more income. Only that the person's chart is more > gainful and he can derive more gain. Atleast thats what I am > understanding in the KAS system and more in the 'Archives' you somehow > seem to go back to archives > > In response to your other posting, of answering questions, as I said I > am not an astrology Guru like yourself and though questions are far > fetched for my tiny brain since Im still in the process of learning > and questioning . However I have a preposition why don't you time > for me the next 6 numbers for the canadian bc 649 the jackpot is it 30 > million I heard. I will pay out 30% to you, that way I can take care > of my student loans, debt, and you will not have to charge $200 for > your astrological consultations Isn't money we all search no matter > how the chart is and isn't finanical security we all try to build. > > I will be waiting for the 6 numbers after all KAS is highly > mathematical and should not have problems finding the 6 set of numbers > and I should win. > > regards > Vish > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vish, > > > > > > > > I think you are equating the number of bindus in 11th to the Quantum of > > income. That is incorrect. Refer archives. This is explained by > > Krushnaji. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of > > enigmaoflife21 > > Thursday August 23, 2007 6:04 AM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > On my quest to actually see how the concept of 11 and 12th house > > points work. > > > > I present two charts below > > > > Starting from a middle class family to reach higher heights > > Venus Williams > > June 17, 1980 > > 2:12 pm > > lynwood, CA, USA > > > > points in 11th house = 21 > > points in 12th house = 23 > > > > and we all know about her earning ratio. > > > > And the all so famous Queen elizabith II who was born into a rich > family > > > > April 21, 1926 > > 2:40am > > London, UK > > > > point in 11th house = 30 > > points in 12th house = 33 > > > > There are other charts I can provide as well, including celine dion, > > who rose from a very poor family background but to avoid overwhemling > > the post I guess we can first tackle the rational behind 11/12th > > points for the above charts without hopefully digressing away from the > > basic SAV points principle. > > > > regards > > Vish > > > > regards > > Vish > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Dear Ash, Ok agreed ! Moving on to KAS, I want a sincere approach from you end in solving my doubts not just a reference to posts that end up conflicting each other. You have asked krusha your doubts in the most earlier mails and I have not seen him referencing you to posts but rather answering your queries. The time you have spend in replying to my emails could have been spent in genuinely answering my doubts. I have noticed when it comes to my doubts you simply state that refer to the emails without going deep enough into the question. I am going to give it another shot and on my end I can assure sincerity. I have gone through some of the posts and they are not clear to me. 1. I am still confused about what exactly the 11th and 12th house BAV signify. 2. As an example the for 11th house in my chart has most planets strong as the worksheet shows expect jupiter which I think has 9 points. But I do not understand that in spite of going through the dasa of planets being strong from 11th why did I not earn much gains. In fact was a student without any gains whatever to speak off. 3. I am confused about the concept of aspects, while I understand the lessons posted (say if jupiter has 5 points) then its placement in a house is benefic by 5 points but its aspect is malefic. But lets say in my case I want to study the effect of Jupiters aspect on my 9th house. 9th belongs to sagitarius and jupiter is aspecting its own house (by VA) when a malefic or benefic aspects its own house it protects it or helps to attain significations of that house. So how do the two fit in together. The lessons talk about the aspect theory but do not describe (or atleast I have not come across) where a planet aspects its own house but has more points in its placement. What results does it. will be hoping for your sincere response on the queries. Regards Vish , " Ash " <kas wrote: > > Dear Vish, > > > > This discussion group is for learning KAS. These mails are becoming > rhetorical so let's end this here and not take up bandwidth of the list. > > > > If you are interested in learning KAS you are more than welcome, you have > been well advised my members on where to get literature. > > > > Lets all get back to KAS. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of > enigmaoflife21 > Thursday August 23, 2007 2:22 PM > > Re: 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > > Lol Ash, > I think you are a funny man like myself, I have not seen your chart > but I can sense that you are a thinker perhaps having a humorous side > which I appreciate. Makes me think of you more of human being than a > pandit in yellow dress. Since with pandits (not all but most) if you > joke with them they say the heaven is going to come crashing on you > and God will do this and that > > Anyhow honestly I cannot answer you questions since I am not well > versed with astrology. How can a student answer the teacher. You are > the teacher I am the student. I am sure if you check in the archives > for parashara or K.P or other websites including SJC (sanjays) you > will find your answer. You will also come across their student > clamining that their system is prefect and nothing matches their > system. I hope you see where I am getting at. > > For me I would appreiciate if you can given me the next 649 lotto > numbers honestly a lot of debt is huanting me. Weather you see that > from my chart or not. I sure like to pay off my debt and go for a > vacation in hawaii with my guitar and play some nice music. I promise > you (and I keep my word) that you will get 30% of my lottery winnings > on a 34 million jackpot thats a whole lot. > > What do you say? In fact better since KAS is a mathemtical > quanitification if we can win the lottery a few number of times we can > spread the wealth around and actually solve problems afflicting people > rather than dicussing them on fourms such as these, it would be taking > an action. > > So consider me a grain of sand in an ocean full of knowledge as newton > said and help me figure out the next 6 numbers soon. I am willing to > rest my case and accept KAS as the ultimate de facto timing and > prediction system if I can win this BC 649 jackpot. and will gladly > put all hats down from my end. > > Regards > Vish > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents , > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vish, > > > > > > > > You still haven't answered my questions. Awaiting :-) > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents ] > On Behalf Of > > enigmaoflife21 > > Thursday August 23, 2007 1:46 PM > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> vents > > Re: 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > No I think you are assuming that, I am not equating the number of > > bidhus in the 11th to the Quantum of income. I am rather equating it > > to the earning potential or gain potential in a chart. Logically > > speaking a higher bidhu house is stronger at the expense of the other > > house. So nope I am not saying that if a 11th house has more points > > the person will have more income. Only that the person's chart is more > > gainful and he can derive more gain. Atleast thats what I am > > understanding in the KAS system and more in the 'Archives' you somehow > > seem to go back to archives > > > > In response to your other posting, of answering questions, as I said I > > am not an astrology Guru like yourself and though questions are far > > fetched for my tiny brain since Im still in the process of learning > > and questioning . However I have a preposition why don't you time > > for me the next 6 numbers for the canadian bc 649 the jackpot is it 30 > > million I heard. I will pay out 30% to you, that way I can take care > > of my student loans, debt, and you will not have to charge $200 for > > your astrological consultations Isn't money we all search no matter > > how the chart is and isn't finanical security we all try to build. > > > > I will be waiting for the 6 numbers after all KAS is highly > > mathematical and should not have problems finding the 6 set of numbers > > and I should win. > > > > regards > > Vish > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vish, > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you are equating the number of bindus in 11th to the > Quantum of > > > income. That is incorrect. Refer archives. This is explained by > > > Krushnaji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > On Behalf Of > > > enigmaoflife21 > > > Thursday August 23, 2007 6:04 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > On my quest to actually see how the concept of 11 and 12th house > > > points work. > > > > > > I present two charts below > > > > > > Starting from a middle class family to reach higher heights > > > Venus Williams > > > June 17, 1980 > > > 2:12 pm > > > lynwood, CA, USA > > > > > > points in 11th house = 21 > > > points in 12th house = 23 > > > > > > and we all know about her earning ratio. > > > > > > And the all so famous Queen elizabith II who was born into a rich > > family > > > > > > April 21, 1926 > > > 2:40am > > > London, UK > > > > > > point in 11th house = 30 > > > points in 12th house = 33 > > > > > > There are other charts I can provide as well, including celine dion, > > > who rose from a very poor family background but to avoid overwhemling > > > the post I guess we can first tackle the rational behind 11/12th > > > points for the above charts without hopefully digressing away from the > > > basic SAV points principle. > > > > > > regards > > > Vish > > > > > > regards > > > Vish > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Also as I understand it, If juptier is placed in a particular house it seems it will not give the results of that house in terms of timing events for that house. Where as saturn would. Seems like jupiter was aspect house C from it and hence one cannot time the results from jupiter. Saturn in the other case is not going to aspect these house and hence can time the events. All this in theory is good question is how does it work practically. Assuming jupiter is in the 5th house does it mean timing child birth will not be possible using jupiter? or that the child birth will not happen during jupiters subs. regards Vish , " enigmaoflife21 " <enigmaoflife21 wrote: > > Dear Ash, > Ok agreed ! Moving on to KAS, I want a sincere approach from you end > in solving my doubts not just a reference to posts that end up > conflicting each other. You have asked krusha your doubts in the most > earlier mails and I have not seen him referencing you to posts but > rather answering your queries. The time you have spend in replying to > my emails could have been spent in genuinely answering my doubts. I > have noticed when it comes to my doubts you simply state that refer to > the emails without going deep enough into the question. > > I am going to give it another shot and on my end I can assure sincerity. > > I have gone through some of the posts and they are not clear to me. > > 1. I am still confused about what exactly the 11th and 12th house BAV > signify. > > 2. As an example the for 11th house in my chart has most planets > strong as the worksheet shows expect jupiter which I think has 9 > points. But I do not understand that in spite of going through the > dasa of planets being strong from 11th why did I not earn much gains. > In fact was a student without any gains whatever to speak off. > > 3. I am confused about the concept of aspects, while I understand the > lessons posted (say if jupiter has 5 points) then its placement in a > house is benefic by 5 points but its aspect is malefic. But lets say > in my case I want to study the effect of Jupiters aspect on my 9th > house. 9th belongs to sagitarius and jupiter is aspecting its own > house (by VA) when a malefic or benefic aspects its own house it > protects it or helps to attain significations of that house. So how do > the two fit in together. The lessons talk about the aspect theory but > do not describe (or atleast I have not come across) where a planet > aspects its own house but has more points in its placement. What > results does it. > > will be hoping for your sincere response on the queries. > > Regards > Vish > > > > > , " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vish, > > > > > > > > This discussion group is for learning KAS. These mails are becoming > > rhetorical so let's end this here and not take up bandwidth of the list. > > > > > > > > If you are interested in learning KAS you are more than welcome, you > have > > been well advised my members on where to get literature. > > > > > > > > Lets all get back to KAS. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > enigmaoflife21 > > Thursday August 23, 2007 2:22 PM > > > > Re: 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > > > > > > Lol Ash, > > I think you are a funny man like myself, I have not seen your chart > > but I can sense that you are a thinker perhaps having a humorous side > > which I appreciate. Makes me think of you more of human being than a > > pandit in yellow dress. Since with pandits (not all but most) if you > > joke with them they say the heaven is going to come crashing on you > > and God will do this and that > > > > Anyhow honestly I cannot answer you questions since I am not well > > versed with astrology. How can a student answer the teacher. You are > > the teacher I am the student. I am sure if you check in the archives > > for parashara or K.P or other websites including SJC (sanjays) you > > will find your answer. You will also come across their student > > clamining that their system is prefect and nothing matches their > > system. I hope you see where I am getting at. > > > > For me I would appreiciate if you can given me the next 649 lotto > > numbers honestly a lot of debt is huanting me. Weather you see that > > from my chart or not. I sure like to pay off my debt and go for a > > vacation in hawaii with my guitar and play some nice music. I promise > > you (and I keep my word) that you will get 30% of my lottery winnings > > on a 34 million jackpot thats a whole lot. > > > > What do you say? In fact better since KAS is a mathemtical > > quanitification if we can win the lottery a few number of times we can > > spread the wealth around and actually solve problems afflicting people > > rather than dicussing them on fourms such as these, it would be taking > > an action. > > > > So consider me a grain of sand in an ocean full of knowledge as newton > > said and help me figure out the next 6 numbers soon. I am willing to > > rest my case and accept KAS as the ultimate de facto timing and > > prediction system if I can win this BC 649 jackpot. and will gladly > > put all hats down from my end. > > > > Regards > > Vish > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents , > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vish, > > > > > > > > > > > > You still haven't answered my questions. Awaiting :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents ] > > On Behalf Of > > > enigmaoflife21 > > > Thursday August 23, 2007 1:46 PM > > > astrologyandtiminge > > <%40> > vents > > > Re: 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > No I think you are assuming that, I am not equating the number of > > > bidhus in the 11th to the Quantum of income. I am rather equating it > > > to the earning potential or gain potential in a chart. Logically > > > speaking a higher bidhu house is stronger at the expense of the other > > > house. So nope I am not saying that if a 11th house has more points > > > the person will have more income. Only that the person's chart is more > > > gainful and he can derive more gain. Atleast thats what I am > > > understanding in the KAS system and more in the 'Archives' you somehow > > > seem to go back to archives > > > > > > In response to your other posting, of answering questions, as I said I > > > am not an astrology Guru like yourself and though questions are far > > > fetched for my tiny brain since Im still in the process of learning > > > and questioning . However I have a preposition why don't you time > > > for me the next 6 numbers for the canadian bc 649 the jackpot is it 30 > > > million I heard. I will pay out 30% to you, that way I can take care > > > of my student loans, debt, and you will not have to charge $200 for > > > your astrological consultations Isn't money we all search no matter > > > how the chart is and isn't finanical security we all try to build. > > > > > > I will be waiting for the 6 numbers after all KAS is highly > > > mathematical and should not have problems finding the 6 set of numbers > > > and I should win. > > > > > > regards > > > Vish > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Vish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you are equating the number of bindus in 11th to the > > Quantum of > > > > income. That is incorrect. Refer archives. This is explained by > > > > Krushnaji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > ca> ca> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > On Behalf Of > > > > enigmaoflife21 > > > > Thursday August 23, 2007 6:04 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > On my quest to actually see how the concept of 11 and 12th house > > > > points work. > > > > > > > > I present two charts below > > > > > > > > Starting from a middle class family to reach higher heights > > > > Venus Williams > > > > June 17, 1980 > > > > 2:12 pm > > > > lynwood, CA, USA > > > > > > > > points in 11th house = 21 > > > > points in 12th house = 23 > > > > > > > > and we all know about her earning ratio. > > > > > > > > And the all so famous Queen elizabith II who was born into a rich > > > family > > > > > > > > April 21, 1926 > > > > 2:40am > > > > London, UK > > > > > > > > point in 11th house = 30 > > > > points in 12th house = 33 > > > > > > > > There are other charts I can provide as well, including celine dion, > > > > who rose from a very poor family background but to avoid > overwhemling > > > > the post I guess we can first tackle the rational behind 11/12th > > > > points for the above charts without hopefully digressing away > from the > > > > basic SAV points principle. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Vish > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Vish > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Also read about lord of house D and lord of house E a.k.a lord of secondary upachaya sthan and also about samdharis.. , " enigmaoflife21 " <enigmaoflife21 wrote: > > Also as I understand it, > If juptier is placed in a particular house it seems it will not give > the results of that house in terms of timing events for that house. > Where as saturn would. > > Seems like jupiter was aspect house C from it and hence one cannot > time the results from jupiter. Saturn in the other case is not going > to aspect these house and hence can time the events. > > All this in theory is good question is how does it work practically. > > Assuming jupiter is in the 5th house does it mean timing child birth > will not be possible using jupiter? or that the child birth will not > happen during jupiters subs. > > regards > Vish > > , " enigmaoflife21 " > <enigmaoflife21@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > Ok agreed ! Moving on to KAS, I want a sincere approach from you end > > in solving my doubts not just a reference to posts that end up > > conflicting each other. You have asked krusha your doubts in the most > > earlier mails and I have not seen him referencing you to posts but > > rather answering your queries. The time you have spend in replying to > > my emails could have been spent in genuinely answering my doubts. I > > have noticed when it comes to my doubts you simply state that refer to > > the emails without going deep enough into the question. > > > > I am going to give it another shot and on my end I can assure > sincerity. > > > > I have gone through some of the posts and they are not clear to me. > > > > 1. I am still confused about what exactly the 11th and 12th house BAV > > signify. > > > > 2. As an example the for 11th house in my chart has most planets > > strong as the worksheet shows expect jupiter which I think has 9 > > points. But I do not understand that in spite of going through the > > dasa of planets being strong from 11th why did I not earn much gains. > > In fact was a student without any gains whatever to speak off. > > > > 3. I am confused about the concept of aspects, while I understand the > > lessons posted (say if jupiter has 5 points) then its placement in a > > house is benefic by 5 points but its aspect is malefic. But lets say > > in my case I want to study the effect of Jupiters aspect on my 9th > > house. 9th belongs to sagitarius and jupiter is aspecting its own > > house (by VA) when a malefic or benefic aspects its own house it > > protects it or helps to attain significations of that house. So how do > > the two fit in together. The lessons talk about the aspect theory but > > do not describe (or atleast I have not come across) where a planet > > aspects its own house but has more points in its placement. What > > results does it. > > > > will be hoping for your sincere response on the queries. > > > > Regards > > Vish > > > > > > > > > > , " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vish, > > > > > > > > > > > > This discussion group is for learning KAS. These mails are becoming > > > rhetorical so let's end this here and not take up bandwidth of the > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are interested in learning KAS you are more than welcome, you > > have > > > been well advised my members on where to get literature. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets all get back to KAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > > enigmaoflife21 > > > Thursday August 23, 2007 2:22 PM > > > > > > Re: 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Lol Ash, > > > I think you are a funny man like myself, I have not seen your chart > > > but I can sense that you are a thinker perhaps having a humorous side > > > which I appreciate. Makes me think of you more of human being than a > > > pandit in yellow dress. Since with pandits (not all but most) if you > > > joke with them they say the heaven is going to come crashing on you > > > and God will do this and that > > > > > > Anyhow honestly I cannot answer you questions since I am not well > > > versed with astrology. How can a student answer the teacher. You are > > > the teacher I am the student. I am sure if you check in the archives > > > for parashara or K.P or other websites including SJC (sanjays) you > > > will find your answer. You will also come across their student > > > clamining that their system is prefect and nothing matches their > > > system. I hope you see where I am getting at. > > > > > > For me I would appreiciate if you can given me the next 649 lotto > > > numbers honestly a lot of debt is huanting me. Weather you see that > > > from my chart or not. I sure like to pay off my debt and go for a > > > vacation in hawaii with my guitar and play some nice music. I promise > > > you (and I keep my word) that you will get 30% of my lottery winnings > > > on a 34 million jackpot thats a whole lot. > > > > > > What do you say? In fact better since KAS is a mathemtical > > > quanitification if we can win the lottery a few number of times we can > > > spread the wealth around and actually solve problems afflicting people > > > rather than dicussing them on fourms such as these, it would be taking > > > an action. > > > > > > So consider me a grain of sand in an ocean full of knowledge as newton > > > said and help me figure out the next 6 numbers soon. I am willing to > > > rest my case and accept KAS as the ultimate de facto timing and > > > prediction system if I can win this BC 649 jackpot. and will gladly > > > put all hats down from my end. > > > > > > Regards > > > Vish > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents , > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Vish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You still haven't answered my questions. Awaiting :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > http://www.ashtro. > > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents ] > > > On Behalf Of > > > > enigmaoflife21 > > > > Thursday August 23, 2007 1:46 PM > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > <%40> > > vents > > > > Re: 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > No I think you are assuming that, I am not equating the number of > > > > bidhus in the 11th to the Quantum of income. I am rather equating it > > > > to the earning potential or gain potential in a chart. Logically > > > > speaking a higher bidhu house is stronger at the expense of the > other > > > > house. So nope I am not saying that if a 11th house has more points > > > > the person will have more income. Only that the person's chart > is more > > > > gainful and he can derive more gain. Atleast thats what I am > > > > understanding in the KAS system and more in the 'Archives' you > somehow > > > > seem to go back to archives > > > > > > > > In response to your other posting, of answering questions, as I > said I > > > > am not an astrology Guru like yourself and though questions are far > > > > fetched for my tiny brain since Im still in the process of learning > > > > and questioning . However I have a preposition why don't you time > > > > for me the next 6 numbers for the canadian bc 649 the jackpot is > it 30 > > > > million I heard. I will pay out 30% to you, that way I can take care > > > > of my student loans, debt, and you will not have to charge $200 for > > > > your astrological consultations Isn't money we all search no > matter > > > > how the chart is and isn't finanical security we all try to build. > > > > > > > > I will be waiting for the 6 numbers after all KAS is highly > > > > mathematical and should not have problems finding the 6 set of > numbers > > > > and I should win. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Vish > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com, > > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you are equating the number of bindus in 11th to the > > > Quantum of > > > > > income. That is incorrect. Refer archives. This is explained by > > > > > Krushnaji. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. > > <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > ca> ca> > > > http://www.ashtro. > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com] > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > > enigmaoflife21 > > > > > Thursday August 23, 2007 6:04 AM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge > > > > <%40> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com > > > > > 11 and 12th house studies ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > On my quest to actually see how the concept of 11 and 12th house > > > > > points work. > > > > > > > > > > I present two charts below > > > > > > > > > > Starting from a middle class family to reach higher heights > > > > > Venus Williams > > > > > June 17, 1980 > > > > > 2:12 pm > > > > > lynwood, CA, USA > > > > > > > > > > points in 11th house = 21 > > > > > points in 12th house = 23 > > > > > > > > > > and we all know about her earning ratio. > > > > > > > > > > And the all so famous Queen elizabith II who was born into a rich > > > > family > > > > > > > > > > April 21, 1926 > > > > > 2:40am > > > > > London, UK > > > > > > > > > > point in 11th house = 30 > > > > > points in 12th house = 33 > > > > > > > > > > There are other charts I can provide as well, including celine > dion, > > > > > who rose from a very poor family background but to avoid > > overwhemling > > > > > the post I guess we can first tackle the rational behind 11/12th > > > > > points for the above charts without hopefully digressing away > > from the > > > > > basic SAV points principle. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > Vish > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > Vish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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